Could America ever become a Catholic Monarchy?

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[@andymalone7338]

It might be more useful to consider the American Revolution as the revisitation of the English Civil War where the Puritans/Parlimentarieans destroyed the Monarchy, put a military dictatorship in its place, engaged in wars of aggression that ended when the Dictator Cromwell died, the King restored and the most radical revolutionary departed for New England. The French Revolution only compressed the time line because France was a greater nation than Stuart or Tudor England could ever imagine.

[@TheMeaningofCatholic]

Yes agreed on all points. This is very important and Americans have no idea about this history. -TSF

[@albertatrafficante4261]

A little known part of that history is the Jewish Cabala influence to shape the Colonial religious narrative.

[@m.proximus1930]

"Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away?" - Mel Gibson as Benjamin Martin, "The Patriot" ...Nick! "Mah-rrree-nahd"!

[@TheMeaningofCatholic]

There we go. -Flanders

[@andreysaiz8208]

Nice show gentlemen. Hermano, when is Luis coming back on?

[@TheMeaningofCatholic]

Good question hermano! He's been quite busy with lots of work of his own, but he's still a Guild member. Are you in the Guild?

[@andreysaiz8208]

@@TheMeaningofCatholic , I'm not, I probably should be though.

[@user-jq9bh8rx2b]

Vivat Christo 🙏

Any thoughts on France because when you say Monarchy I automatically think of France. Any thoughts on the French elections where Le Pen is gaining ground and Macron is deeply worried. As Bishop Sheen once said; Moslems hate Christianity yet Catholic France is being taken over by Moslems in our post Christian era. There is a report where thousands of Moslems are praying in the streets of France scary times indeed. My point Le Pen wants to make it harder for Moslems to enter French society. No I do not think America will ever accept a Catholic Monarchy as we know Trump's wife is Catholic Trump had a chance to convert but did not; yet his abortion policy was brave indeed. But saying that God can use evil men to accomplish his will; Constantine the Great did not convert until his deathbed because of political reasons. Another interesting point a Jewish lawyer from Romania I think who survived the Holocaust and is a French citizen will vote for Catholic Le Pen unheard of but even they are seeing the socialists left very anti semitic as Americans are witnessing the hatred in colleges and universities.

[@OliveMule]

TRUE CATHOLICS ARE MONARCHIST EVERY KNEE WILL BEND TO OUR EARTHLY KING, KING FRANCIS 🇻🇦👑✝️

[@janicewilliams2922]

You are soooo wrong !!!! Francis is no king! Only Jesus is King of kings! Francis is a steward !!!! He is an administrator until Christ comes back.

[@paddyleather5434]

Brian Boru was a Catholic Monarch . A real one

[@paddyleather5434]

Republicanism can be Catholic .

[@elirien4264]

It had better not!!

[@evanwaniewski183]

ET CETERA. not Eck Cetera!!

[@paddyleather5434]

Yes. But it would be a devout Kennedy . Monarchy is both a religious and ethnic institution and since you are a convert raised with Protestant biases and you did not grow up in or near to Catholic America either due to your youth and inexperience or location you don’t understand that . The Irish built the Church in America . The reason you have a Catholic American Church is because of the Irish and they endured much suffering that benefits every American Catholic . Not appreciating this is a sin. Patriotism is a form of piety that appreciates what our nation gives to us that is good and the Catholic portion of America was given to us by Saint Patrick . Catholic America must , can and will be saved . But it requires understanding what it is at its core . It’s Irish

[@janicewilliams2922]

Disagree ! The Spanish and French laid the ground work for catholicism in the America. The Irish definitely contributed later.

[@paddyleather5434]

@@janicewilliams2922 that is not reality . The French were in French territory not America and they were small in number . The Spanish were even less influential than the French . They were very small in population and they only inhabited areas that were , again Spain not the United States . The areas of the nation that the Spanish had populated at one time did not become US territory until centuries later. And these were all far out hinterlands with extremely small populations . The United States of America had almost no Hispanics until the 1960’s and only then because in 1965 the enemies of the Church colluded to stop European Catholics migration that made America . And to have preference for foreigners from Latin America . Anyone that claims Spain created the Catholic Church in the United States is operating either out of extreme ignorance or malice .

[@Scooter-f7f]

No. As flawed as a republic we may have, an unelected leader is far worse and less representative of the people.

[@OliveMule]

Fake Catholic

[@thereasonableman2424]

A leader should not be representative of the people, he should be representative of God's will. Throw away your liberalism that believes that authority comes from the people, and not God.

[@Scooter-f7f]

@@thereasonableman2424 I am familiar with Roman’s 13. Then why care at all? Why have a discussion at all? Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. We must submit to the authority of our governments regardless of who they are.

[@thereasonableman2424]

@@Scooter-f7f My point is the leader being representative of the people should not factor in whether they are a good leader. As in, republics are not better than monarchies due to being more representative, supposedly. Now, a catholic republic is better than a masonic monarchy, but a catholic monarchy is better than a catholic republic.

[@Scooter-f7f]

@@thereasonableman2424 doesn’t matter anyways. Romans 13 says we must obey and submit because all powers are ordained by God.

[@AveMaria1917]

Absolutely not. We should be a Catholic nation, if it is God's will, but we do not need or want a further King beyond God, whom we already have here, in the Blessed Sacrament. Jesus is the King of Kings and no further mistakes need to be made - 1 Samuel Chapter 12. Prophet Solomon and St. Raphael the Archangel and St. Michael the Archangel and St. Gertrude the Great and Mary and St. Gabriel the Archangel, do pray for us all, ora pro nobis, especially the Nation of the United States of America so that no giant mistakes are made like that. Thank You, Jesus. Son of David, have mercy on us all. Pray for us all. Thank You.

[@OliveMule]

Fake Catholic

[@jonathacirilo5745]

how does it become a catholic nation without being a monarchy with a catholic king or a ditactorship with a catholic ditactor? even if most people were to become catholics as long as the nation remains a liberal democracy/republic with a secular separation of church and state it will never really be a catholic nation right?