Could Climate Change cause an Ocean Tipping Point... Soon..?

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@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

Huge thank you for the input from scientists Dr Laura Jackson and Professor Eleanor Frajka-Williams - twitter.com/EleanorFrajka

@DavidGirling Жыл бұрын

As expected my comment linking to the NASA and NOAA websites showing data that proves the Earth has been cooling since 2016, and that the Arctic ice has been expanding since 2012, and a long list of failed climate predictions got deleted because nobody could argue with the data and the followers of the faith don't like the general public to know the truth. So Adam, have you got the guts to stand up for the truth, or are you so chicken you lay eggs?

@Timlagor Жыл бұрын

The world has begun the transition away from fossil fuels? How come emissions are still rising then?

@oleonard7319 Жыл бұрын

@@Timlagorbecause we are still putting out more co2 than the planet can absorb. Plus we have likely tripped a number processes already that are releasing additional co2 that was locked up in. Permafrost.

@alancharlton3867 Жыл бұрын

@ClimateAdam : Why do Europeans omit naming all Greenhouse Gases other than Carbon Di Oxide (CO2)?, a Non Toxic Gas which actually is a coolant of Atmospheric Water Vapour & essential to Cloud Formation. I have not heard mentioned on DW, France24 or BBC News Broadcasts anything about Carbon Mon Oxide (CO), a Toxic Gas produced when anything organic is burned, which includes Fossil Fuels, Wildfires & Volcanic Activity, all of which also emit various degrees of Solid Carbon particles (C). I always hear them incorrectly state that all those emissions are CO2. I also keep hearing references to effects which can only result from Methane (CH4) Emissions as being caused by CO2. CH4 is created during the Decaying Process of everything Organic & is Toxic. Most CH4, the worst Greenhouse gas in relation to Global Warming, is released by flatulence, most of which comes from humans & animal meat livestock, sewage treatment (which also has Ammonia Emissions), waste landfill sites & trapped CH4 is released during Coal Mining. When Coal is burned, the main emission is CO, NOT CO2 as often publicised these days. In addition to CO, there is also Sulphur Di Oxide (SO2) emitted. SO2, C, CO & H2O are the main Greenhouse Gases emitted by Volcanic Eruptions. I have heard Documentaries stating the emissions from Eruptions is "All CO2", a very wrong generalisation which must be challenged. Yes, Atmospheric CO2 is increasing. There is a correllation of that increase in population growth, not only of Humans, but also of our Animal Meat Livestock, and deforestation, not just to supply timber for construction, but also to facilitate Farming & Urban Sprawl, including Industrial Precincts, which is rarely, if ever, blamed for Increased Global Temperatures. In addition, where our Planetary System is in the Galaxy is another factor, as Scientific Research is leaning towards the discoveries that the last time we were in this part of the Galaxy, Global Warming also happened. There are a number of locations in the Galaxy which cause us to undergo a Warming due to Supernovae Radiated Emissions.

@fredbmurphy Жыл бұрын

From what I understand the AMOC plays a minor influence on the trans Atlantic gulf current, the earth's rotation is responsible for most of it.

@shaunaburton7136 Жыл бұрын

Our seas have been polluted and overfished and filled with plastic and overheated . This is like the nail on the coffin for our seas.

@TheVinor14 8 ай бұрын

@TheMahayanist if microplastics are found in every trophic level, i think thats reasonable to believe it's overfilled with plastic regardless of how small the trash islands are compared to the overal volume.

@chanvalentine8283 Жыл бұрын

I was told the oceans were dying in the 70s. My thoughts. Since the ocean around Florida has been the same temperature as the air temperature. I'm not a scientist. But I think we're screwed.

@hawkdriver0171 Жыл бұрын

In the 70's it was "impending Ice Age" as the scare tool, then Acid Rain, then depleted Ozone, then HIV/AIDS, then Global Warming....Fear sells

@freedomruss Жыл бұрын

I think you're wrong. The ocean temp is often the same as the air temp all over the earth. No big deal.

@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын

"Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... Before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

@roxycauldwell544 Жыл бұрын

That is a big deal. Hot water doesn't hold oxygen, and ecosystems are going to be heavily affected

@ollirantala Жыл бұрын

@@freedomruss No they are not same. Air warms oceans to 3 micron depth where it instantly evaporates. Evaporating is cooling phenomena. In 70s we were going to ice age. And very soon we are going to ice age again.

@__Wanderer Жыл бұрын

This paper is pure nightmare fuel. A collapse from 2025-2090 with 95% confidence is horrifying.

@tobiaszb Жыл бұрын

With just projection of data? What about nonlinearities?

@__Wanderer Жыл бұрын

@@tobiaszb If you read the paper it also includes the non linearities. Increased variance + instability in measurements of the last 150+ years as well as some of the most cutting edge simulations around. Forward models are fit / calibrated to this data. This means it's a pretty accurate projection: aka we are seriously screwed if we don't cut emissions ASAP. The last time AMOC collapsed was 12,000 years ago when europe was in an ice age.

@christinearmington Жыл бұрын

@@__Wanderer 12k years ago the climate didn’t have to overcome 50% extra co2.

@__Wanderer Жыл бұрын

@@christinearmington indeed. Which means this will likely be a far more rapid and extreme collapse.

@__Wanderer Жыл бұрын

@@aquamaneo1204 I didn't come up with the figure sadly. Was published in a nature article and yes they predict that anywhere between 2025-2090 the AMOC will collapse with 95% confidence interval. This is scary as hell. And nobody seems to care... insane.

@nyralotep Жыл бұрын

Political support for mitigating climate change will only occur after catastrophe I fear. Businesses have way too much political power via money to fight off profit loss.

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

100%

@EdwardM-t8p 3 ай бұрын

Sorry, but I don't think even then unless you have some catastrophic heat event or global crop failures. Even with just an AMOC collapse climate change deniers will smugly gloat and never let us forget it, and stymie any corporate or political action that would make a difference.

@erikw2460 3 ай бұрын

I think after COVID we should really temper our hopes that catastrophes would actually push government or society at large to do anything. In many cases, we’re on our own.

@psikeyhackr6914 Жыл бұрын

Why don't climate scientists talk about unnecessary manufacturing producing CO2 because of planned obsolescence?

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

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@ollie2052000 Жыл бұрын

Ahh we ain’t getting out off this one alive, too many climate tipping points. Too much greed, apathy & stupidity are at play. Hug the ones you love.

@Chimmahh 3 ай бұрын

Painfully true. Ideas? I'm out.

@wendydelisse9778 Жыл бұрын

People too often forget that climate is approximately symmetrical about the Equator, and that therefore the meltwater increase that happens near the Arctic Circle in the Northern Hemisphere will happen in roughly the same time frame in the Southern Hemisphere near the Antarctic Circle. People frequently fret about the effects of ice melt water from the Greenland ice sheet in the Northern Hemisphere, but often almost ignore the future ice melt water from the much larger Antarctic ice sheet in the Southern Hemisphere. The melt water that happens in the Southern Hemisphere has a strong potential effect on the worldwide Equator-crossing current loop of which the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC) is but a small fraction. People should ponder more upon the possibility that during the next 100 years vast amounts of meltwater might enter the ocean both from the Greenland ice sheet and from the Antarctic ice sheet, and that as a result, submergance of cold salty water into the depths will then greatly decrease both in the Northern Hemisphere and in the Southern Hemisphere. One nasty trick that ocean water has is that if ocean water near the surface is sufficiently diluted by ice melt, then the law of thermal expansion breaks down near the freezing point temperature, with a result that sinking water can then be slightly warmer than the liquid water near the surface, since when the law of thermal expansion breaks down, liquid water a little bit warmer than the freezing point is denser than liquid water at the freezing point. This breaking down of the law of thermal expansion can have a severe effect on the world system of overturning ocean currents. In addition, there is a bouyancy effect from dilution by melt water. Ocean water of reduced salinity is more bouyant than normal ocean water that is at the same temperature. Sufficient surface spreading of chilly reduced-salinity meltwater can result in an Atacama Desert effect in various parts of the world. The Atacama Desert in South America is partly the result of the nearby chilly Humboldt Current. Short version: There are a lot of future potential nasty effects of ice melt that the popular press too much ignores. Excessively diluted water near the ocean surface, if allowed to happen, will cause great changes in ocean circulation, as well as roughly century-scale climate change in some land regions.

@kimwelch4652 Жыл бұрын

The worry is not that the results are too extreme, but that they are too conservative. So far, the actuals when they become real and apparent are worse and moving faster than any prediction. This means that when you place your bets, you should look to sooner and worse as the end result. So, can we panic yet?

@jellaoud9712 Жыл бұрын

You're right, although you mean 'conclusions' instead of 'results'. Results is what we measure, our conclusions of the results can be too conservative.

@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын

@bostjanerjavec4146 Жыл бұрын

Not a scientist, but what I can see and feel is speeding up dramaticly lately. It's 22th of october and we're having 20 degrees celsius in Slovenia. Use to freeze those times. And gets hotter every year.

@kimwelch4652 Жыл бұрын

@@bostjanerjavec4146 The increase in greenhouse gases and average temperature rise are exponential. That is, the rate of change is increasing along with the actual values. So, yeah, it's speeding up.

@etienne8110 Жыл бұрын

Not really. There are always multiple scenarios (scenarii). We only retain the conservative ones, but there are scénarios where our emissions keep rising (what we did and are still doing). So the modelisations are there, just that we chose to ignore them to focus on the milder scenarios ("if i do something it will be okay, so it s okay to do nothing") 😅

@ThaKKatt Жыл бұрын

I'm a grad student intern working on a county's Climate Action Framework (literally, right this minute, I'm drumming up some community resilience performance metrics right now while watching KZbin videos about stressful news), and this gives me motivation to go focus on my job and stop watching climate KZbin lol

@jorgeh.r9879 Жыл бұрын

What country do you work for?

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching but plz stop watching and develop that famework now k thx bye

@wendydelisse9778 Жыл бұрын

Some electric utilities and sewage utilities and farm operate on a 200-year longevity planning basis. In other words, an electric power line is purchased of high enough quality to last for 200 years, a sewage pipe is built to last 200 years, and a farm is operated on the expectation that it will be 200 years before the topsoil has eroded away. In a coastal region though, sea level rise won't always allow 200 years of operation. For the 280 year time frame from the year 1980 to the year 2260, accumulated level rise is expected to follow a roughly cubic trend, due partly to Earth Energy Imbalance (EEI) following a roughly quadratic path for the last 40 years or so. Assuming that the now roughly quadratic EEI path continues for another 60 years or so, below are accumulated sea level rise estimates good enough for longer term planning purposes: December 1980 +0 meters December 2120 +4 meters December 2260 +36 meters In about 100 years, if that estimate works out, sea level will be about 4 meters higher than now in the year 2023, and in about 240 years, sea level will be more than 30 meters higher than now in the year 2023. An sewage utility operator for example serving a town 3 meters above median high tide level can go a little bit cheap on a new sewage pipe, since in 100 years, it can be expected that the town will have been lost to the sea, and that the sewage line therefore won't be needed anymore. Climate change is more than just about sea level rise. Winds from sea storms will be stronger, and will too frequently do substantial damage further inland than was typical in the 20th Century. Wind codes for buildings therefore need to be revised upward, to a wind speed building endurance requirement at least 10 kilometers per hour higher than at the end of the 20th Century. Also, in the Northern Hemisphere is an expected 21st Century pattern of climate zones moving northward. As such, there will be Summers during which Sahara Desert weather stretches northward into England, or during which Great American Desert weather temporarily extends northward into Saskatchewan, an important grain growing region in Canada. Such northward movement of desert weather events into the traditional agricultural regions of the 20th Century also creates some need for county planners in some regions to develop an irrigation infrastructure plan, and in some regions to develop a plan for just in case grain storage. Typical commercial worldwide food storage in mid-August typically amounts to about 90 days of food. In case of some disastrously low world food harvest some year of only 60% compared to expectation, that's about 39 days of world food shortfall. In addition, there has during the current war in Europe been notable military pillage of stored grain in the war zone in Europe this year in 2023, meaning that some harvested grain now gets blown up by bombs or missiles or the like, rather than remaining as part of the already typically too low mid-August inventory of the world's commercially stored food supply. I wish you and your county governance council good luck on your climate change planning project. One other bit of advice is that local weather expertise is often by far the best. Some parts of the world have local television station meteorologists. If you can get a local television station (or better yet two or three or four such local television stations) to donate for free some of their meteorologists' time to your town's governance council, a couple of 40 minute or so Skype or Zoom sessions involving you and your town's governance council and some local meteorologists might be in order, with the two sessions spaced about a month apart, in order to give everyone some time to ponder some upon whatever gets discussed in the first Skype or Zoom session.

@toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын

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@christinearmington Жыл бұрын

What a difference an r makes. 🤦‍♀️😏

@xyincognito Жыл бұрын

I feel like your channel is what climate communication has always been missing! I hope your audience will expand massively quickly.

@Forgan_Mreeman Жыл бұрын

thank you! ❤

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

thanks so much - comments like these mean so much to me!

@simplethings3730 Жыл бұрын

I feel certain that every conservative person in the country has already tuned in. I can't wait for their helpful input. My brother (the one who is still alive, not the one who refused to get vaccinated) told me that people are going to have to change the way they are doing things because of the climate. I asked him who he was thinking of voting for and he said Nicky Hayley. I feel better already. Why you ask? Because I'm 63.

@christinearmington Жыл бұрын

@@simplethings3730👍😏

@will-fullyblindorwill-fullystu Жыл бұрын

Climate communication is nothing more than a lot of parrots who are singing the same song. No facts, NO knowledge No research...just blaaahhh blaaahhh blaaahhh

@romixch Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work to communicate the sciense here. I've watched most of them. Among other influential people it lead me to: - Not fly anymore - Eat much less meat - Replace my gas heating with a heat pump - Plan PV on my roof - Buy PV panels for our company But what I actually wanted to say: In my opinion this is by far the best hair cut in all of your videos 😊

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

ahah that's so lovely to hear! especially the hair bit!

@No-sc9wm Жыл бұрын

hehe jokes on you thats all oil and chemical derivitaves return to monkey is the only way

@hawkdriver0171 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 "meet"

@jimthain8777 Жыл бұрын

I don't feel scared. I feel like I should be doing more. Unfortunately I am constrained by circumstances. I find that knowledge and action drive fear away. The problems will still happen, but because of my small actions, and those of a good many other people. The consequences of our past and current actions will still happen, but they might be a little less of a problem than they would be if I had done nothing at all. The big reason climate change doesn't scare me is because although we are definitely going to have a much different climate, we will still have a climate. It won't be the one we had, which allowed us to build a huge civilization over the last 10,000 years, but it will eventually settle down into a new normal. Make no mistake that normal could be radically different than what we're used to, but plants and animals have survived such changes in the past. Will we? I certainly hope so. Doing so though means finding the weakest points in our civilization, and finding ways to do it differently so that change doesn't mean disaster. As many of the deniers like to point out, the climate has changed before. What they miss, is that it didn't do so at a time when civilization was in existence. None of them can guarantee that civilization will survive any rapid changes. I think our weakest elements are (fresh) water, and food. What can we do to make these less climate sensitive? Can we store fresh water where it can't evaporate? Can we grow food in ways that the climate it grows in can be controlled by us? Water is a hard thing to safeguard. Food can be grown in climate controlled environments. That is expensive, but it may become necessary as growing it outside may become impossible. Think about these issues I'm raising, because they are important to our future as a species.

@lshwadchuck5643 Жыл бұрын

Very thoughtful comment. I'm with you. I talked with a scared friend today. She had the numbers wrong, like wildly, and she was in total despair. If you're going to pay attention, you have to go to the actual scientists.

@mantasalgorythm4809 Жыл бұрын

Hummans survived the last ice age dont worry

@DeathsGarden-oz9gg Жыл бұрын

Line the side of roads with native plants flowers bushes trees and more available soil for these plants in the middle of cities so they don't fill in there box and because drought stressed even with dayley watering. Also use better insulation in building to reduce energy demand wich will reduce co2 do to less energy needed. We should also use thirsty concrete or cement to reduce flooding sand mining and reduce noise pollution from car tires by 5 to 15% wich is louder then the engine on 90% of cars at speed.

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

Nero fiddles, while Rome burns

@haydndoucet4172 Жыл бұрын

We haven’t been studying the AMOC, but they are able to see Greenland melts 100,000 years from ice cores. If they’re able to correlate these two then they very well may be correct….

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

The worrying thing is that they're increasingly sure what's happening as evidenced by the "cold blob" forming south east of Iceland.

@tvuser9529 Жыл бұрын

3:00 Your tipping point re-enactment is fabulous, and deserves awards for acting, visual effects and audio effects. PS: Don't drop the Oscars on someone's toes.

@justsomeguy2825 Жыл бұрын

I saw a post online that summed it up pretty well. "Even if this had next to no chance of happening, do we really want to take the risk?"

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

for sure - the climate scientists I've heard speaking about it make clear that we want to rule it out as thoroughly as we possibly can.

@ollirantala Жыл бұрын

We can´t change oceans currents. Global warming is turning global cooling. That´s not good.

@emanuelecaprarelli7689 Жыл бұрын

i like your positive attitude, but there is really little we can do as individuals, we can only adapt to whatever will happen, if we manage to adapt, otherwise we will be obliterated by reaction of the planet to our stupid and blind behaviour.

@rhondaromano4531 Жыл бұрын

Love your haircut! Also, your wonderful way of informing us about these important issues!

@cybersandoval Жыл бұрын

Didn't scientists use to call the amoc the "deep salty"?

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

loool I've never heard that, but I'm gunna start using it!

@sleepingbear1889 Жыл бұрын

The AMOC is being predicted to shut down mid century, 2025 in in the prediction range 2025 to 2097

@kimwelch4652 Жыл бұрын

Don't count on any geoengineering. It is far too expensive with no ROI (return on investment). That's because, in economic terms, extinction is more economically profitable than survival. Until we give up seeing everything as an economic problem, we cannot afford to survive.

@user-mx7fh2ms3z Жыл бұрын

Step into direct action! That's the only thing that's going to work at this stage. As many of us as possible need to do it and disrupt disrupt disrupt

@eyeugrad1 Жыл бұрын

Why don’t you glue yourself down to the highway in protest causing a massive traffic jam while increasing CO2, CO, Hydrocarbons, and NOx emissions based on MPG? Have you thought about volunteering to work at companies who are legitimately researching alternative fuels? Of course you haven’t!

@user-mx7fh2ms3z Жыл бұрын

I've never glued myself to a road but I have campaigned for years in many different ways and my paid work is about technical solutions (retrofitting homes). Unfortunately there's no point having expertise and solutions if they are ignored by those in power. We need structural change, which can only come through mass direct action and people deciding they won't stand for it. If you don't step up, you are complicit in this terrible situation - being passive is a choice too and far more questionable one than gluing yourself to a road @@eyeugrad1

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

I've read most of the paper on which this video is based. It reminds me of a thorough and correct mathematical analysis of chicken entrails. In other words, garbage in equals garbage out. The analysis may be flawless, but the underlying assumptions aren't. Chicken entrails don't predict the future, and neither do very limited and inadequate models of extremely complex fluid systems (e.g. the weather and overturning ocean currents). If you disagree with my analysis, please provide an ACCURATE forecast of the weather for one year from today. No one can do that. No one can come anywhere close. Here's some of the particular flaws with the paper: 1. The AMOC has only been studied in detail since 2004. That is far too short a period to get an understanding of its natural variations. There are known climate phenomenon such as the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), El Nino, and La Nina that happen on longer time scales. 2. The use of sea surface temperatures (SST) as a proxy for AMOC. Again, due to the short amount of time AMOC has been studied, we don't know the long-term correlation of these two. 3. The historical record of SST in the "fingerprint" area of AMOC is almost nonexistent prior to the use of satellite measurements in the 1980s. The "fingerprint" is in a very remote part of the ocean with very little commercial shipping traffic. Prior to satellite data, the intake water temperature of commercial ships was used to estimate ocean surface temperatures. The paper assumes we have an accurate record of the "fingerprint" area going back to 1880. This is laughable. 4. Complex fluid systems are essentially impossible to model. We can somewhat model very simplified situations such as jet engines, airplane wings, and combustion chambers of engines. but that's about it. Weather forecasts are only good for a few days, and pretty much just extrapolate current trends. Climate models are political garbage, and greatly overestimate actual global warming. Their main purpose is to support the mainstream narrative, get funding/prestige/tenure, and increase government control. MODELS ARE NOT SCIENCE. Finite element analysis "models" are used in engineering, but material stresses are not nearly as complex as fluid flows, and the models are well verified by empirical data. That is NOT the case with climate models, which FAIL to accurately hindcast known historical temperatures. Bottom line: fear mongering is alive and well.

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

I just became aware of this paper (Chengfei He et al. “A North Atlantic Warming Hole Without Ocean Circulation.” Geophysical Research Letters. 2022.) that pretty much destroys the ASSumptions of the Ditlevsen paper on which this video is based. It also affirms some of the points I made in my previous reply.

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet Жыл бұрын

The doom criers we’re hitting Reddit hard recently about this topic. Nice to see someone getting more level headed assessments out. It’s obviously a dire situation and we definitely don’t want to blow past any tipping points that we don’t have to. That being said, as far as I can tell, this doesn’t change what we need to do. We still need to remove fossil fuels from our society as quickly as possible in order to limit our future emissions.

@DrGilbz Жыл бұрын

"What can we do about the seas running amoc(k)" - YES! Zinger! p.s. nice haircut :)

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

ahah! I'm definitely not the first to use that line, but I _will_ take credit for it!

@DrGilbz Жыл бұрын

And on a serious note: thanks for a typically clear, informative and fun video on a very important topic!

@timinclimate Жыл бұрын

Wait. So you *aren't* responsible for the hair? I figured you did it while you were there.

@DrGilbz Жыл бұрын

Cahm aaahn@@timinclimate , if I *was* responsible, Adam would have something a bit more off-the-wall than this! Maybe... purple zebra stripes? Feel like this would suit you @ClimateAdam ;)

@Chimp-Choker 10 ай бұрын

Ignore people like this nugget in the video first, then do research for yourself and you will see that this is fake rubbish

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

A paper that came out 2 months ago from Utrecht University, "Probability Estimates of a 21st Century AMOC Collapse, Emma J.V. Smolders, Rene M. van Westen and Hank A. Dijkstra" builds further on the one you mention with some updated research, specifically looking at the Gulf Stream. In a nutshell they now suggest a 95% probability of a Gulf Stream collapse (saddle-bone bifurcation) between now and 2095. The most likely timeframe for this to happen is between 2037 and 2064, a period starting just 13 years from now - and they say 13 is an unlucky number! There's a 60% chance this will happen BEFORE 2050. Contrary to what you suggest, we're hardly making ANY progress re. reducing carbon emissions, which are continuing to accelerate globally in the absence of any meaningful internationally binding agreements from the cop-out conferences. It's incumbent on us all to pressure our politicians to do much more.

@ErwinTeunissen Жыл бұрын

Its surprising how scientists are surprised again and again climate change is going much faster then expected, while tipping points are allready well known, they somehow forget to calculate the consequences of those tipping points they will rapidly speed up global warming, which is allready rapidly changing. At the edge of extinction only love remains

@joshwong800 Жыл бұрын

What's your opinion on the artificial cooling caused by sulphur dioxide emissions from fossil fuels and the argument that we need to draw down any emissions from animal agriculture faster and before fossil fuel emissions to avoid a quickening of the warming in the initial stages of or emission drawdowns? I saw this argument from Dr Shailesh Rao and on the Climate Healers web page.

@eyeugrad1 Жыл бұрын

Are you aware that SO2 emissions decreased by 94% between 1980-2020? The PPB went from 173.9 ppb down to 9.9 ppb in that 40 year time frame (EPA bulletin 5/23). Leave the cows alone, they have been doing their thing for 10,000 years from the time they were domesticated from aurochs. If climate crazies spent more time educating themselves and working proactively and methodically on global warming etiology, conservatives would have more respect. Sorry, but a vegan electrical engineer whose PhD thesis was on “processor arrays” does not constitute an authority in this arena.

@joshwong800 Жыл бұрын

@@eyeugrad1 I was not aware, I'll have a think about how that effects the argument and look at the data on it. Though I want an ethical as well as sustainable society so if we were really leaving the cows alone, we would not be artificially and forcibly impregnating them into existence and killing them and their children for needless taste pleasure.

@joshwong800 Жыл бұрын

@@eyeugrad1 I miss quoted the climate healers paper though it does factor in SO2 which your are correct in that it's a small aspect and dropped, they also do not consider it to be a driving factor in the artificial cooling I mentioned, but brings to light a lot of the miscalculations implemented in the IPCC reports and raises concerns with their public affiliations with the large meat and dairy industries and highlights the miscalculations they have made and refusal to continue an open dialogue about the critique of said miscalculations and measurement methodology, though they have been raised repeatedly. I didn't consider Dr. Rao an authority on the matter but to date I've not seen anyone convincingly refute their arguments to focus on ending the animal agriculture (the killing machine) industries as a priority over drawing down fossil fuel emissions ('the burning machine') though would like to see such a refutation if it's out there. Have you read the paper in full?

@tealkerberus748 7 ай бұрын

Initiatives to improve ruminant digestion and reduce methane production are nice. Initiatives to prevent the destruction of forests and jungles to create pasture and cropland are obviously essential. But ultimately, the carbon released into the air by livestock is only the carbon removed within the last 1-2 years by the plants those livestock are eating. After the livestock have eaten the tops off the grasses, the grasses grow back, capturing the same amount of carbon over again in a net-zero cycle - or in a carbon capture cycle if the farmer is engaged in regenerative agriculture. It's the carbon that was removed from the atmosphere either millions of years ago in the case of fossil fuels, or tens of thousands of years ago in the case of permafrost, that is going to kill billions of people. We need to stop the release of fossil carbon already.

@abass1770 Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, im just updating my lectures on the THC covering these recent studies - great video.

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

You might want to read this then: Probability Estimates of a 21st Century AMOC Collapse, Emma J.V. Smolders, Rene M. van Westen and Hank A. Dijkstra (Utrecht Univeristy, Netherlands), 17/6/24

@abass1770 3 ай бұрын

@@timothyrussell4445 yes, that one’s in there. Cheers!

@simplethings3730 Жыл бұрын

Stop burning fossil fuels? Gee whiz. Why didn't we think of this before?

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

why did literally nobody ever suggest that?!?!?

@بوحميدةمحمدبنأحمد 8 ай бұрын

- We live in the same climate as it was 5 million years ago - I have an explanation regarding the cause of the climate change, it is the travel of the universe to the deep past since May 10, 2010. Each day starting May 10, 2010 takes us one thousand years to the past of the universe. Today March 31, 2024 the state of our universe is the same as it was 5,074 million years ago. On january 20, 2050 the state of our universe will be at the point 14 million and 500 thousand years in the past. On september 15, 2100 the state of our universe will be at the point 33 million years in the past. Mohamed BOUHAMIDA.

@CitiesForTheFuture2030 Жыл бұрын

Hi Adam - great video. Tx How much does Antartica contribute to the strength of the AMOC? Sea-surface water also sinks there - so essentially (as I understand it) there are two drivers of the AMOC (one at Antartica and the second by Greenland). If both "engines" are being impacted, doesn't this increase the liklihood & pace of the AMOC slowdown?

@Automatic_Stoves Жыл бұрын

It is entirely possible to build a mechanical climate machine that will halve the rate of global warming. But unfortunately, “climate activists” are more concerned with making money than solving the climate crisis.

@michealgee2394 11 ай бұрын

No the poles are getting bigger and colder so why is everyone having a meltdown over supposed sea level rises ? that have not happened in my life time and do not look like happening any time soon contrary to what some very well paid people claim with their fabricated hockey stick nonsense.

@pdtoth Жыл бұрын

Adam, has anyone ever told you that you look like the late British-American actor, Roddy McDowall? Appreciate your efforts to reach a younger audience about climate change.

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

Ahah that's a new one!

@traveltheworld215 Жыл бұрын

We are all going to die!😢

@Patrick-jj5nh Жыл бұрын

Your new hair looks great! Anyway, good video, very informative as usual.

@kaputfretudy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. Another vindication of the value of the precautionary principle.

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

Unless the precautionary principle has huge negative consequences. Example: You don't want to have a serious auto accident so you don't go to work or do shopping or visit friends. If you don't do all these things the consequences on your life would be extreme. If you don't want to accidentally choke to death, you could avoid eating. We all take risks every day. Life is a risk.

@kaputfretudy Жыл бұрын

@@dzcav3 have you read up about the precautionary principle? It is different to the concept of risk-reward, and certainly nothing like the examples you provide. In the case of climate change, there are no further benefits to increasing emissions, because we have renewable technology we can deploy, and we already consume far more than is needed for our well-being, with ours being a distribution aka inequality problem. I recommend going and having a read of the precautionary principle in the context of the Rio 1992 Earth Summit.

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

@@kaputfretudy Go to Africa and talk with the mothers who lost their babies because the local hospital didn't have an ultrasound machine or incubator due to the lack of cheap, reliable electricity. They don't think there are no benefits to increasing emissions. On a similar note, many in Africa have lung problems due to breathing smoke from burning animal dung indoors to cook their food. The introduction of propane stoves literally saves lives. You talk about an inequality problem. All starvation is an inequality problem. Equality sounds nice in theory, but it's impossible in practice. Humans are going to act like humans. Can richer nations make ECONOMICALLY SOUND moves to minimize emissions? Sure, and they should, as long as the ECONOMICALLY SOUND part doesn't get overlooked. The problem is that it usually DOES get overlooked. People often talk about solar and wind having lower LCOE than fossil fuels. What they almost always ignore is the added costs of additional transmission lines and backup power generation that solar and wind require. When you look at the total picture, it's often very different. Germany had the highest electrical rates in Europe BEFORE the Ukraine war due to its use of solar and wind. It couldn't survive without its neighbors to buffer its supply and demand. Poverty is the main cause of premature death around the world. When you overlook the economics and increase poverty, even marginally, you kill people.

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

I just became aware of this paper (Chengfei He et al. “A North Atlantic Warming Hole Without Ocean Circulation.” Geophysical Research Letters. 2022.) that pretty much destroys the ASSumptions of the Ditlevsen paper on which this video is based. Another vindication of NOT taking expensive actions which will definitely harm poor people when we don't have a high degree of certainty that those actions are necessary.

@pierrevaillancourt1371 Жыл бұрын

thanks

@roberthicks5454 Жыл бұрын

They have been saying the ocean current would be disrupted any day now for over 50 years. In the 1970's they said the disruption of the ocean currents would cause a new ice age.

@LivingNow678 Жыл бұрын

Take a look at Maverickstar reloaded

@kevinmurphy5878 Жыл бұрын

Don't see why that couldn't still happen b/c of the huge amount of melt water due to the temporary warming

@roberthicks5454 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinmurphy5878 The thing is, the earth has warmed this much in the past and never had a problem. Why would we believe that something that has never happened before would suddenly happen now? For one thing, there is no "huge amount of melt water" happening due to global warming. These glaciers are rivers of ice that move all the time. They are not moving any different now than a million years ago. Snow and ice are deposited up stream of the glacier and force the glacier to move downwards. When it hits water, it melts. It is the ocean water that is causing the melt and has for millions, if not billions of years.

@michaelbindner9883 Жыл бұрын

We need to quit burning gasoline in urban areas and highways and replace it with tethered electric with roofs over the roads and parking lots and cover with grass and storm water control systems fueled by solar panels. Cars should go home through central control. Power the system with small nuclear. We can do all if this now except for oil companies power. Because we have passed the tipping point, temperature in the south may get better some years, but will trend badly, killing people and ruining farm belt crops, until we do change the heat profile of coastal cities. It's not carbon, its heat. We don't have the luxury of labor or carbon reduction virtue signalling. The tipping point is in the rearview mirror.

@me5ng3 Жыл бұрын

2:48 You say here that the surge of sea level on the east coast of NA would be a problem. I'm sorry if this question might sound dumb, but wouldn't the surge of sea level be worldwide? Doesn't the sea level raise uniformely?

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

super interesting question and maybe a topic for a future vid, but no! surprisingly sea level rise is not uniform, partially because of shifts in gravity, and partly also due to shifts in circulation. here's a good, clear discussion of the topic: sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/9/are-sea-levels-rising-the-same-all-over-the-world-as-if-were-filling-a-giant-bathtub/

@somedudeok1451 Жыл бұрын

The more I look at these issues, the more it seems like the best thing we can do to slow down and eventually reverse climate change is to oppose authoritarian/conservative/rightwing political power. Whether we look at Putin's Russia or American party policy or middle eastern oil barons or poverty in the global south, it's always the influence of the global right wing that leads to worsening climate change or opposing measures against it. It Russia's attack on Ukraine for Europe to stop buying fossil fuel from Putin and looking for sustainable alternatives. We need to do this more. Only in a democracy representing (at least somewhat) the will of the people can the debate about climate change even be had in an honest fashion and only in democracy can we agree upon effective anti-climate change measures.

@richardmaccotta4341 Жыл бұрын

tipping points are NOT reversible, at least talking about human spice life spectancy

@katuwalewskie6992 Жыл бұрын

10:26 joke's on you, i wasn't actually looking at the screen 😁 I'm sewing up my backpack so I don't have to buy a new one 😊

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

I've done exactly the same while watching KZbin vids!

@stevefitt9538 Жыл бұрын

I have said this in 6 comments to other sites. IMHO, we need to take drastic actions, now. Or, ASAP. The main drastic action is to start a program of rationing energy use, only in advanced industrial nations. I propose that there be 4 levels of allowed consumption. The lowest call it X number of tons of CO2/year is for the bottom 40%. The next level is 2X for the range from 40% to 80%. The next level is 3X for the range from 80% to 99.9%, And the last level is 4X for the top 0.1% of incomes. We also massively invest in green energy. We also do geoengineering projects that are not likely to make things worse. I'd rather try and fail, than to fail to try because of a 1% chance that instead of avoiding the +5 deg. C world we got a +8 deg. C world. The +5 deg. C world will mean human extinction, so who cares if the world reaches +8 deg. C? YMMV. . . . I propose the levels in hopes that the super-rich can accept using 4 times more to try to save their greatgrandchildren from certain death at an early age. If they were rational, they would allow this program to get started. Are they rational?

@ryanevans2655 11 ай бұрын

So two climate phenomena seem to be in tension with each other- the Alps’s winter sports being on, ahem, thin ice at lower elevations, and the AMOC shutting down possibly causing very local cooling in Europe despite continued warming elsewhere. So would the AMOC shutting down save Alpine skiing?

@pbshumanity8977 Жыл бұрын

Everyone talks about Europe freezing.. NOBODY is mentioning that the heat will still be there, but in a different place.. aka the east coast, Florida, Caribbean, and back down the chain. We already have 100 degree water on Florida.. it’s just beginning to slow

@debbiet5130 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining this clearly-very informative. Love your hair equally both ways!😁

@mikesmith2905 Жыл бұрын

The psychology behind our apparent inability to cope with climate change is interesting and not particularly encouraging. As I understand it (based on a lecture a couple of decades ago) the flow of warm water across the Atlantic has an alternate stable arrangement where the water flows more easterly than northerly. At the time of the lecture there was a contention that this might explain the famine and weather issues that precipitated the Bronze Age Collapse (around 1170 BC or thereabouts). Hence we do have some idea about what it would involve on a human scale and we could, in the absence of a plan for preventing it, look at mitigation methods. You could for example write to your MP pointing out that it is hardly fair for the rate payers in the higher ground to be expected to pay for the refugee camps for those displaced from the estuary areas, surely we should be adding a sea-level tax to coastal dwellers community charge to be sequestered and later used for the building of the camps and associate sewerage, water and power requirements. It is unlikely to have any immediate effect but historically talking about money has captured the imagination of the political industry better than just about anything else.

@patrick247two Жыл бұрын

Given the energy levels involved the AMOC may change course rather than stop completely. When the climate regains stability, where the AMOC flows is not predictable.

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

This is actually one of the caveats of the paper which I didn't have time to get into - there may be such a thing as a partial collapse of the amoc, so it would have multiple tipping points not 1. At the moment we don't have the info we'd need to tell.

@fromnorway643 Жыл бұрын

@@ClimateAdam If the AMOC stopped transporting heat northward, wouldn't that heat end up somewhere else?

@patrick247two Жыл бұрын

Yes.@@fromnorway643

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

@thimblequack Жыл бұрын

keep up the good work

@viridiangreen8259 Жыл бұрын

Perspective - thank you 💛

@Daniel-pr4uk Жыл бұрын

Sorry if this is a silly question, but is there a way to get sea water from the sea onto the continents and use it for irrigation etc? (And thus perhaps make up for the huge imcrease in water volume coming from the melting glaciars). I remember reading that the areas in Indonesia that were submerged under seawater by the tsunami had amazingly abundant crops the following season. Apparebtly sea water is excellent for crops. So couldn't we move large amount of sea water onto land and use it for irrigation? especially in locations that have a huge need for more water.

@firsttorecess1074 Жыл бұрын

My family farms in California. We have to be careful how much groundwater we use because of the salinity. Salt water will stunt and kill the cops. During the tsunami, the water probably washed nutrients onto the land, but most of the water itself probably cascaded over the land and back into the ocean. If the land had absorbed a great deal of the saltwater, it would be much less arable.

@5353Jumper 11 ай бұрын

All that takes more energy so...

@Preinstallable 10 ай бұрын

Irrigating crops with incoming seawater will not help, in fact, likely make the problem even worse as it will increase groundwater levels even if cities are sea-walled off. The runoff from irrigation would be like trying to take a bucket of water in the ocean and putting it elsewhere in the ocean

@danwatson171 Жыл бұрын

Society cannot bend enough in the next two years without breaking, and after that no landmass will have a stable enough weather to get crops to yield food. The end will be brutal.

@Crysanth. Жыл бұрын

So glad I stumbled upon your channel, Adam! I'm aspiring to be science writer/journalist, and I'm learning a lot from your content. Keep 'em coming!!

@bobmnz6914 Жыл бұрын

To save you looking: Not exactly 4.5 billion but! It's not can it happen but when it will happen again? The age of the oldest glacier ice in Antarctica may approach 1,000,000 years old. The age of the oldest glacier ice in Greenland is more than 100,000 years old. The age of the oldest Alaskan glacier ice ever recovered (from a basin between Mt. Bona and Mt. Churchill) is about 30,000 years old.

@illiteratemochi4150 Жыл бұрын

I dont know about everyone else, but I feel like the consequences to this happening are so severe that we should just assume the worst case scenario and START PANICKING. Panicking in the calmest way possible and actually start doing things faster lol

@Venom87542 Жыл бұрын

I just want to know, are we going to be ok in the next few decades? Am I going to have to fight for my food? Am I going to be stuck in my house due to weather? Will I have to watch my friends and family die?I do live in California and I have to take an Antidepressant because of Climate Doom and what I’ve read in the past and just am scared.

@Lightmaker5 Жыл бұрын

Yes this very summer was sure the hotest ever and still not over. Winters in europe are gone. I remember 2002 we had trouble getting with the car somewhere due to too much snow. And today clear streets. At least for 6 years haven't seen real snow. We have weather like in Los Angeles now. And as a scientist I bring bad news, nobody is trying to invent anything new. Well, I published a new AC unit that works with water. It doesn't produce any heat.

@GaryStark Жыл бұрын

“…huge consequences for the world’s weather, which means huge consequences for all of us.” I’m a new subscriber and really enjoy your videos! But your comments tend to bias towards human well-being. I mean that makes sense since you’re human, but these potential changes will have huge consequences to all life on earth, not just us. I think the distinction has merit. Anyway, keep up the amazing work!

@dummyaccount.k 3 ай бұрын

Imma be real, i dont need the intense music on this. Im already strapped in

@dekelpolak4190 Жыл бұрын

Do our thoughts influence nature? Indeed, our thoughts influence nature. We live in a single global-integral system of nature, we influence it with our thoughts, and we receive feedback accordingly. Similar to laws that operate on mechanical, electronic, electromagnetic and other material and biological scales, when we press, push or constrain something, we receive a response. Likewise, when we think positively or negatively about others, we accordingly receive a response. The global-integral reality in which we live is a closed system, and we receive responses from it according to our attitudes to it.

@Anuchan Жыл бұрын

Comparing the ice age to a bad haircut is genius. Every female can relate to that one.

@KarolaTea Жыл бұрын

Thank you as always for explaining things :)

@traceyolsen308 6 ай бұрын

Would it help to off load several tankers worth of very salty brine near Greenland and refill them with fresh water to go to the Middle East or where ever else the brine comes from? Sorry if this is a completely mad suggestion, I don't know anything about the costs or practicalities etc.

@Holy_Frijole Жыл бұрын

good info. [10:05] I also recommend considering putting some of your savings into a B. Corp rated bank. In America big banks are using our savings to fund dirty energy. Source: youtuber Climate Town has a good entertaining (with sources to follow) video.

@star_1_man214 Жыл бұрын

B.S! Percent of CO2 in our atmosphere is .04%! If it gets below .02%, plants and crops will start dying then us, because of no food!

@wlhgmk Жыл бұрын

Wait on a moment. If the Gulf Stream 'won't shut down even if the AMOC does' then the chill over Europe won't happen. The heat from the Gulf will still be transmitted northward. On the other hand if the surface water no longer becomes salty enough when it cools due to the input of fresh water from Greenland as it moves northward, then it won't sink down and head south deeper down in the ocean. Then there will be no place for the surface water from the south to go. It can only pile up so much and then the current will stop. If we add to this a lack of freezing of ocean water in the Arctic ocean which also produces heavy salty water which plunges into the abyss and flows south then the second mechanism which sucks water up from the south disappears. So which is it. Will the Gulf Stream shut down or won't it. If it does, we should see more intense freezing of Arctic waters, re-powering the AMOC. In other words, we might be in a situation of a bunch of cold years in Europe followed by a bunch of warm years. The climate will flick flack back and forth until it settles down into a new regime.

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

You should read this: Probability Estimates of a 21st Century AMOC Collapse, Emma J.V. Smolders, Rene M. van Westen and Hank A. Dijkstra (Utrecht University, Netherlands), 17/6/24

@critiqueofthegothgf Жыл бұрын

so general consensus is that the amoc is slowing down, and might be at its weakest point in a while. as for a full and complete shut down, while unable to be ruled out based on current trends, it's still a very low likelihood. with that being said, the likelihood of total collapse by 2100 increases the more emissions rise, correct?

@Paul-li9hq Жыл бұрын

My wife gave birth to a beautiful, healthy baby boy yesterday and I was so proud to be the father... until I was told it was climate change 😢

@BrawlWithZ Жыл бұрын

Climate change is the father of your baby? 😳

@Chimmahh 3 ай бұрын

I don't get it. You're not the father of climate change, so you're not proud... of... ? Trying to piece together analogy... help?

@Paul-li9hq 3 ай бұрын

@@Chimmahh it's a joke! - something I heard ages ago... you know... how EVERYTHING is the result of climate change 🤣

@KiwiSentinel Жыл бұрын

On balance it seems inconclusive. I think the heat will finish us off first. As the temperature goes up plants lose their nutritional value so food shortages and collapse seem closer than any AMOC action.

@SakkiDuran 10 ай бұрын

It's not only about fossil fuels you know conventional agriculture is also a huge factor regarding greenhouse emissions and climate change. We need to produce and consume local food. For example avocado is not sustainable in most parts of the world. They need a lot of water. Also it's not sustainable for it to be shipped thousands of kilometers just so you can have it on your breakfast toast. Be smart consume local. That's the best way to reduce greenhouse emissions. Problem is most of the people even when they care they just forget about it. We are constantly being programmed to consume. The real problem is money and the responsible are the couple of guys controlling the industry. Just do a little research about BlackRock and where it is located. Then just connect the dots.

@christianrobertdemassy900 Жыл бұрын

i love the zoom ins and the way you play with your eyebrows.

@aladarwendriner3694 Жыл бұрын

I wondered when you would cover this. The wording in the study was a concern after first look

@garyford3125 Жыл бұрын

I seem to be getting confused. I was under the impression that the gulf stream was driven by the earth's spin, and was largely independent from the AMOC.

@nedkelly2035 23 күн бұрын

I have some concerns about the climate, but I think the speed of change predicted by many doomsayers is grossly exagerrated. Part of the Florida Keys are already supposed to be underwater. Past tense. ALL of the keys are supposed to be underwater by the end of 2025. 13 months from now. There are a lot of other such predictions out there, some bordering on hilarious. I hear some of the fear mongers make statements like "The Arctic ice cap will be gone by the end of this year" "We only have 12 years left", etc.

@makkiph Жыл бұрын

Good channel and very informative

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@MarvinNeumannOfficial Жыл бұрын

Short hair is back ✌️

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

RIP the long hair 😢

@altosack Жыл бұрын

@@ClimateAdam- You youngsters always overestimate how long (subjectively!) it takes hair to grow back. I’ve had mine long (middle and bottom of shoulder blades) twice in my life, have it quite close to yours now, and am not ruling anything out for the future (I’m 57). Actually, my future hair length is one of the only things I _don’t_ have qualms about!

@notfarfromgone1 Жыл бұрын

I'm grateful that we know whatever we know about the AMOC. It's going left. We just have to get good at adaptation. Be nimble. That thing we suck at. Onward!

@Mivoat Жыл бұрын

Professor Dame Jane Francis, director of the British Antarctic survey has just said she thinks the Greenland ice sheet has reached the point of no return.

@essiebee8415 Жыл бұрын

Haircut looking fresh 👌🏻 Thank you for this video, I was wondering!!

@pmdaguet Жыл бұрын

No regrets to have about the old hair cut; this one is perfect. And please keep doing what you are doing: it’s perfect too

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

@echodelta9336 Жыл бұрын

I know it‘s inadequate to comment on looks but red looks sooooo good on you!!

@peterp5099 6 ай бұрын

So if AMOC breaks down, Europe would have not a relatively warm climate anymore , but a climate that’s usual for that geographic latitude? A climate like southern Canada, which 25°C in summer and -20°C in Winter? And rising due to climate warming still going on? Well, it would certainly be bad. But getting in Europe a climate like southern Canada is not exactly the stuff of catastrophe movies?

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

To put it into perspective, temperatures would fall by around 8-10°C in the UK and Ireland, which is where they were in the middle of the last ice age.

@peterp5099 3 ай бұрын

@@timothyrussell4445 last ice age or the current ice age?

@tobiaszb Жыл бұрын

How is Thwaites Glacier doing?

@billboyd1885 Жыл бұрын

So if I’m relatively wealthy, I should stop using fissile fuels, but if I’m poor, I should t and if I’m very wealthy, I should continue flying private jets, running my mega yacht and living is huge house? Maybe the us president should lead by example.

@climatechat Жыл бұрын

"Climate scientists are conservative in the opposite way that a risk manager (e.g., in an insurance company) is conservative." and this video is an example of that. An AMOC shutdown will have catastrophic impacts so uncertainty is not your friend. The chance of a near-term AMOC shutdown is quite high, probably more than 50% at this point... and much higher than the chance your child will blow their brains out if they play Russian Roulette... and you would never, ever let them do that. Like an airline pilot that gets an indication of an engine fault, we must assume the worst, declare an emergency, and take action. And saying that geo-engineering (solar radiation management - SRM) has uncertainty and risks is meaningless unless you compare it to the uncertainty and risks of *not* doing it. In this case, the risk of not doing it have just escalated to Condition Red. There is little doubt that SRM will not be more dangerous than an AMOC shutdown, especially considering that we are doing significant, accidental SRM now (ships & coal plant smoke) and nature does it a few times a century with large volcanos. Plus we can turn it off if we don't like the risk/reward tradeoff. But what we can't do is say, "Well, this terrible thing might happen if we don't act right now, but let's wait to gather more information."

@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын

@climatechat Жыл бұрын

Sure, but you need to weigh the risks of doing something (SRM) vs. not doing them (AMOC collapse) and in this particular case, the risk of action is much less than the risk of inaction.@@dzcav3

@earthkind Жыл бұрын

Thanks for keeping up the good work Adam. If we could have taught the children about climate change and the earth's systems 20 years ago this conversation might look different. We still need to teach the children. Unfortunately the big issues (this being the biggest) get swept under the rug. Somehow, this smartest of animals fails to see it is bleeding the life out of it's own existence.

@user-wp8yx Жыл бұрын

How about getting rid of coal plants and not gas plants?

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

Gas is worse if it's leaking

@user-wp8yx 3 ай бұрын

@@timothyrussell4445 so we should keep the coal and get rid of the gas?

@timinclimate Жыл бұрын

You and Ella meet in person for the first time, and suddenly you lose all your hair! 😳

@johnthomasriley2741 3 ай бұрын

I take acceptance tot word collapse. The momentum is much too high for that. A tipping point could sift the the northern loop a few hundred kilometers south and the results would be just as dramatic. 😢

@Jameswoodgo Жыл бұрын

Roughly 30 a 40% of all human caused carbon pollution is absorbed via global vegetation so stopping deforestation and replanting trees on all available lands will improve climate ratios much faster than electric cars or renewable power. Yet we still continue to open lithium and cobalt mines renewable adds a 60. % overall increase in mining! Unfortunately us humans are always late to take action which often leads us to rush to equally unsustainable solutions. Nuclear energy is our only option like it or not!

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

You've forgotten one minor detail: people need to eat.

@Jameswoodgo 3 ай бұрын

@@timothyrussell4445 we can do both it’s not complicated

@HrafnkelHarthrathi Жыл бұрын

This video had an out-of-date conclusion the day it was released. We now know we have been cloud seeding for the past 100 years and all north Atlantic sea temperature anomalies can be explained by the termination shock brought about by 2020 ship sulfer regulations and a resulting 80% reduxtion of their effect on clouds

@h2m1ify Жыл бұрын

Your new hair cut looks better than the old one!

@brianwheeldon4643 Жыл бұрын

Hi Adam, What's your response to Prof James Hansen and team's paper "Global Warming in the Pipeline please? It appears to me it's far closer to the mark than the endless banter of the consensus science broadcasted by the IPCC in which so much of importance is excluded and future drawdown of co2 is assumed as a given. A podcast or two devoted to a rational assessment of 'Global Warming in the Pipeline' would be greatly appreciated, thanks

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

Their paper is about what would happen if co2 and methane stayed at constant concentrations for many centuries in the atmosphere... Which is not what would happen if we stopped emitting. I plan to make a more detailed video on what happens when we stop emitting soon, which will touch on this paper. Hansen himself has made clear that his study is not about committed warming. I also think your representation of the ipcc is not giving the organisation full credit. While some important info may be left out the Summary for Policymakers, the reports themselves cover the full range of our scientific understanding.

@alexmnicoletti Жыл бұрын

It would be nice if we were solely responsible for climate change, and can do something about it. However, there are problems with the models. Underwater and under-ice volcanoes need to be better understood as one example. The models do not include the possible contribution of the heating of the Earth's outer mandel. The genuine contribution of the Sun makes to the heating of the Earth and other planets, is not well underestood. These are a few factors that we don't have control over. I'm not saying we are not contributing, and yes, our contributions are making things more challenging; however, no matter what we do will not change it enough. We cannot stop the changes occurring to our Earth and every planet in our solar system.

@duncanseath745 9 ай бұрын

The planet is warming, greenhouse gases amplify this effect.

@philippabrealey1310 Жыл бұрын

So the Gulf stream is not at risk? I understood it was. Why isn't it if the AMOC could change dramatically? Is it small fry globally speaking? Is there something I could read that gives some more detail? Thanks. Great video, great haircut!

@ClimateAdam Жыл бұрын

here's a useful conversation on that topic! twitter.com/EpocProject/status/1684468246903132160

@philippabrealey1310 Жыл бұрын

@@ClimateAdam Thanks... very interesting 🙂

@williamdillon7708 Жыл бұрын

Good report with nice visuals. Its concise and short enough to make this a sharable video for our short attention span friends and adult children,: ) We shall see... *Ps, Hair looks good/better Adam. Just use a wig when your singing for your 80's rock cover bands 😮

@greenself471 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, that was really helpful

@Classical741 Жыл бұрын

Another solution is to start using nuclear power, replacing fossil -fuel burning power plants. Nuclear is much safer and efficient than it was 50 years ago, when panic started shutting down nuclear plants in the US. This is unnecessary now, and we need to do it now. Solar will use a lot of land, and wind turbines disrupt local wind patterns. Nuclear power mitigates both those potential issues. Above all, it reduces our dependence on fossil fuels.

@timothyrussell4445 3 ай бұрын

What about solar, wind, geothermal and renewables?