Could Kratos Defeat Elden Ring? (In Lore)

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@SethTheProgrammer
@SethTheProgrammer Жыл бұрын
elden boy it seems most people enjoyed the video! but two small things seem to bother people: 1. I said it doesn't matter if you think Old Kratos is weaker or stronger than Young because it just doesn't. I also want to placate to both sides as it is somewhat debated about in a lot of spaces and didn't want this video to focus on Kratos vs Kratos when it wasn't important. 2. I do say Caelid as Kylid. I have zero idea why, I guess in my head it was just more fun to say it that way as I did all my playthroughs and it just stuck with me. Hope that doesn't bother people too much!
@ezaphycooler1877
@ezaphycooler1877 Жыл бұрын
Idk how but YT translated this to ‘hand size’ lol
@jordanwilliams7631
@jordanwilliams7631 Жыл бұрын
Yo I got problems with not being able to see all your videos, the earliest video I can watch up to is Madara vs Aizen? I’m not sure what the problem is
@ShacoAlon
@ShacoAlon Жыл бұрын
Maliketh fight go HARD!
@UltraGman
@UltraGman Жыл бұрын
@@jordanwilliams7631 Probably because he deletes videos he no longer agrees with or dislikes the quality of. Seth seems to be pretty critical of himself and also cringes at his old videos. So if you can't find a video it's because Seth didn't like it.
@darthdivenes3281
@darthdivenes3281 Жыл бұрын
love your vids keep em up. could you do batman vs skeiro pls. iv have plat and speed run sekiro and think batman or some human like him would be a cool video
@matyfnaalaragi
@matyfnaalaragi Жыл бұрын
Kratos: Come boy, we march for Malenia Atreus: no father we should gain her trust as an allie for war Mimir: "Telling random stories he heard about the elden ring and the gods there"
@generalsweet8212
@generalsweet8212 Жыл бұрын
Atreus: “So does that mean that the Greater Will is good?” Mimir: “It’s all up to interpretation, lad. No one can really say what the Greater Will does or doesn’t want for certain.”
@sharonhardy8409
@sharonhardy8409 Жыл бұрын
Not subject to the topic but how does kratos have a soul he's died twice and still that mermaid creature who maid the spear can see him cause brok died and he hasn't got no soul
@sirsnipes6997
@sirsnipes6997 Жыл бұрын
@@sharonhardy8409 different universe, different rules I suppose
@MeltyZombie
@MeltyZombie Жыл бұрын
@@sharonhardy8409 his soul was cursed by Persephone so that he can never permanently die in order to make his torment eternal
@Ring_student_yin_sang
@Ring_student_yin_sang Жыл бұрын
@@sharonhardy8409 brok still has a soul, but just part of it
@PapaToks
@PapaToks Жыл бұрын
One peculiar thing about Kratos is that, as a God of War, he gets stronger the more he fights - he's practically a Broly in that regard. So I imagine the world and enemies of Elden Ring would be like a never-ending stream of zenkai boost for him.
@darkslayer1161
@darkslayer1161 Жыл бұрын
He gets passively stronger the longer he is upright in whatever realm he is in. Its not just fighting
@crimsondragon2711
@crimsondragon2711 Жыл бұрын
Kratos is secretly a Saiyan lol
@oni8526
@oni8526 Жыл бұрын
That's an amazing way to put it also if you notice where God of war 3 he dies near the symbolizayoon of a pheonix basically referencing the more he dies the stronger he becomes.
@CringeGamingOG
@CringeGamingOG Жыл бұрын
He’s more like TYBW Aizen tbh. Mf sits in a chair and casually becomes super OP while Kratos grows strong with age AND combat. He’s pretty busted in terms of sheer potential.
@frostflame45
@frostflame45 Жыл бұрын
is that why he gets fucked by lava zombie dudes
@tebelel7150
@tebelel7150 Жыл бұрын
I know I’m late, but the developers have confirmed that Kratos has definitely become far stronger, he’s just more disciplined with his actions
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 Жыл бұрын
Thats actually incorrect. No developer used such words Cory merely said Old Kratos would WIN,he didnt talk about physical strength.Brute strength isnt everything Later on they asked another dev about that statement who stated that Old Kratos would find the strength to win cause he has to protect Atreus as motivation. We have many statements that heavily imply/say GoW3 Kratos is much stronger than 2018 Kratos with only end of GoW2018 being somewhat close and GoW Ragnarok Kratos being stated to be on the same level as his peak after training for 3 years.
@alfredopasta3784
@alfredopasta3784 Жыл бұрын
@@newhybrid101Well if it was Kratos with his gow3 weapons then yea he would win. But old kratos is much more mature and has alot more experience
@NightLordJagon
@NightLordJagon Жыл бұрын
@@newhybrid101 Well Im also late to this but I would also disagree and say that 2018 Kratos is much stronger then GOW3 Kratos...Simply due to the fact that not only far more years of training with his strength...but also mentally as well...Also the shit that 2018 Kratos has to deal with....In the first game and Ragnarok...with Baldur and Thor who could have rather easily beat every old god in GOD3 and before...And then Kratos beat them both....No Old Kratos got this...
@psychologicalFudge
@psychologicalFudge 10 ай бұрын
​@OROSW yea I don't understand how peeps think a younger kratos blinded by anger would surpass an older kratos with more knowledge, weapons and strength. It's like saying older zues (who only has an old appearance cos he wants it...) is weaker than his younger self.
@gagegreene9751
@gagegreene9751 10 ай бұрын
@@newhybrid101Cory literally stated old kratos would win “no question” which implies its not a close fight
@Yougotcaged102
@Yougotcaged102 Жыл бұрын
No matter the outcome, Kratos vs. Radahn would be a spectacular battle
@froggie610
@froggie610 Жыл бұрын
Kratos would relate to a warrior like Radahn and would give the honorable death he needed.
@Denzz2
@Denzz2 Жыл бұрын
Kratos would slaughter him in a matter of seconds. Kratos vs the gods described as "legends" eg. Maliketh Godfrey Placidusax would be better fights imo
@issh1n
@issh1n Жыл бұрын
@@Denzz2 definitely not a matter of seconds. riding him way too hard
@-.Outlaw.-
@-.Outlaw.- Жыл бұрын
Kratos one shots the verse
@chaoticstarfish3401
@chaoticstarfish3401 Жыл бұрын
@@Denzz2 Don't forget that Radahn can literally control gravity. If we're talking a "lore" fight instead of a video game boss, it's a whole different story.
@tdagbo
@tdagbo Жыл бұрын
Kratos is not weakened. He’s a pacifist. He holds back a lot because he has matured beyond his rage and resentment.
@mr.breadman4181
@mr.breadman4181 Жыл бұрын
Exactly he even said in Ragnarok should odin have stolen his son he would basically annihilate Asgard with his bare hands if needed
@kainescream8302
@kainescream8302 Жыл бұрын
He is weakened lol young kratos>fear zeus>everything in Norse pantheon
@TheGamingShogun
@TheGamingShogun Жыл бұрын
@@kainescream8302 no he's just a pacifist. This is stated by the creator who said older kratos is stronger than younger kratos. If he was enraged he could've easily soloed Asgard and beaten Odin by himself. He has just matured and is more reliant on his comrades compared to himself before his eventually win against Olympus
@noirekuroraigami2270
@noirekuroraigami2270 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.breadman4181 that would have been a better Ragnarok story, that would have been beautiful
@lasky1526
@lasky1526 Жыл бұрын
@@kainescream8302 He isnt weakened as a matter of fact it has been confirmed that he is stronger than when he was in greek mythology
@Fadeddreams5
@Fadeddreams5 Жыл бұрын
I love how canonically, the Tarnished is killed by all these bosses multiples times, only to come back and try again.
@bruh-tp2zz
@bruh-tp2zz Жыл бұрын
@@jooj2955 ??
@jooj2955
@jooj2955 Жыл бұрын
@@bruh-tp2zz It was some scammer pretending to be Seth. His comment got deleted.
@vintagesalsa19
@vintagesalsa19 Жыл бұрын
no canonically the tarnished kills them on his first try cause otherwise the scene transitions wouldn't make sense.Example godrick why would he cut his hands over and over again ,other examples are malenia ,maliketh and the final boss
@creativename3707
@creativename3707 Жыл бұрын
@@vintagesalsa19 I don't know anything about Elden Ring Lore, but maybe is something like SCP: Containment Breach, where the main character canonically dies and comes back to life at a past "checkpoint" with the knowledge of what his past self experienced before dying (?)
@vintagesalsa19
@vintagesalsa19 Жыл бұрын
@@creativename3707 I think in elden ring time continues even after u die .I can't give proof rn cause i cant remember them but there are NPCs who know u have died and make fun of u or something
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
Kratos vs The Dark Souls pantheon would’ve been a lot more contentious. With some of the top-god tiers being able to sustain or fuel constructs, which arguably collapses multiple universes onto each other while also distorting their time and space. And with even dragons existing before time and maybe space.
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
cosmology still doesn't reach gow level tho 🗿
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
@@AmsyarBrosku it probably exceeds it if you don’t wank off the Yggdrasil feat. Based on the strict universal feats from both series. Dark souls probably takes it due to the fact that the first flame collapses countless universes. So it’s better than Thor and Jormungandr shaking the 9 realms.
@brendanfields3691
@brendanfields3691 Жыл бұрын
Kratos kills and eats dragons for breakfast
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
@@brendanfields3691 fs, Kratos would probably fuck up the majority of dragons if not all the dragons in Dark Souls. Probably other than Seath who should be above lords of cinder which they could arguably have higher scaling than Kratos.
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd Жыл бұрын
The dragons couldn't possibly exist beyond time and space. They lived in arch trees in a land of grey crags, originally surrounded by hollows, until the humans were infused with souls and found The First Flame. This necessitates they cannot be beyond time or space. The closest ones are Aldia, who fused into the very literal foundation of the world, beyond even the Dark and the Deep, and the Giants, who by special rite could traverse through history, at the very least that we know of. The next closest is Fia, who could function as a gateway to some strange end of days that might be akin a debatable cyclical nature of the world trying to return to darkness so it can be a land of grey again. Aldia isn't even conscious that we know of after DS2, so maybe I should only count the giants after all. The First Flame definitely is beyond time, space, life and death. It summons the Black Knights and stirs godly souls into a vanguard to enable it to perpetuate the aforementioned cycle without intervention. Yet the Flame displays nary a wit of sentience or resistance to this Linking, so we cannot hope to count it. Better to say The Profaned Flame, which is malicious and spite and conspiratorial.
@chrissigaran3637
@chrissigaran3637 Жыл бұрын
I always see kratos as being stronger in base then young kratos. The only difference being that young kratos has stacked equipment like the power of hope and blade of Olympus while also being bloodlusted. Old kratos is always holding back it seems.
@ricremricrem2221
@ricremricrem2221 Жыл бұрын
He is also always trying to subdue his enemies which is way harder then simply stabbing them a few times
@FierceDeity35
@FierceDeity35 Жыл бұрын
Base Gow4 Kratos is far stronger than Rage Kratos Gow3. Although it is true that Kratos no longer has his odd abilities, but the ones he has are always enough. Kratos can heal, has infinite stamina, and mastery of combat. If it's a weapon, Kratos can use it.
@Kryptic_sx
@Kryptic_sx Жыл бұрын
It is stated that old Kratos is stronger
@imanrakhshan
@imanrakhshan Жыл бұрын
@@FierceDeity351- No, he is not. Base GoW3 Kratos has the Blade of Olympus which holds his God of War Powers, Zeus’ powers, Athena’s powers and he also has the magics of the titans all of which immensely increase his strength 2-The only magical ability Kratos has left is rage which he always had 3- Kratos does not infinite stamina. He can eventually get tired and start seeing illusions which was shown in Fallen God comics. For everyone who regurgitate that “Cory said so.” Actually provide evidence from GoW4 or its novel that proves this. Surely you can find it if it’s there.
@songokucarot1668
@songokucarot1668 Жыл бұрын
The more greek god âge the stronger they become
@ChrisZM
@ChrisZM Жыл бұрын
Kratos is not weak, he has grown older, he has more experience, and has learned from past mistakes. He now holds back, because he rather not go all out and cause unnecessary destruction and death if he can avoid so.
@Freethinker_94
@Freethinker_94 Жыл бұрын
There is truth here
@Darknesschronicle_1
@Darknesschronicle_1 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, he had the power to go and solo all of norse, as he implied infront of odin, he held back against thor, thor staed after losing in the second fight.
@fatman7064
@fatman7064 Жыл бұрын
Kratos fighting rahdan would be legendary. Kratos would parry that star chaser attack.
@valentinvas6454
@valentinvas6454 Жыл бұрын
Or imagine Kratos fighting Hoarah Loux. It would be one of the manlinest fights ever.
@zenyattafgc
@zenyattafgc Жыл бұрын
I bet he would brutally kill his horse first
@blueford2990
@blueford2990 Жыл бұрын
@@zenyattafgc no, horse precious. No. No.
@zenyattafgc
@zenyattafgc Жыл бұрын
@@blueford2990 LMAO. It will be to simply catch Radahn off balance. Thats always his strat with giant enemies. Tragic, I know.
@KeizerSosebee
@KeizerSosebee Жыл бұрын
@@zenyattafgc if he killed Leonard, he would be in a world of pain
@jojibot9193
@jojibot9193 Жыл бұрын
Cory Barlog confirmed that Kratos' strength increases with age and that he would defeat his younger self without question
@henrryeaeaea
@henrryeaeaea Жыл бұрын
Well, it doesn't seem very accompanied by the games, because the Norse Kratos seems weaker than the Greek Kratos
@depressedasfook2893
@depressedasfook2893 Жыл бұрын
@@henrryeaeaea he lost all his powers when he left his realm
@henrryeaeaea
@henrryeaeaea Жыл бұрын
@@depressedasfook2893 And that implies being weaker
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 Жыл бұрын
@@depressedasfook2893 they said his magic items lost all of their power, Kratos is still trucking, and he doesn't use the power of Hope or really anything outside of a handful of weapons to beat Odin. Hell, he could canonically beat Odin with just his fists if the player is daring enough
@jojibot9193
@jojibot9193 Жыл бұрын
@@henrryeaeaea He only "seems weaker" because of differences in game mechanics. Game mechanics aren't necessarily accurate to canon GoW lore (same situation in almost every lore-driven game series). Whatever you think about the Norse games, Kratos' physical strength is canonically greater than it's ever been.
@Shoddragon
@Shoddragon Жыл бұрын
Agree with the conclusion but the only reason we are resurrected after losing to characters like Malekith is because of the Elden Tree. If we are assuming that Kratos isn’t granted grace and isn’t chosen by the Elden Tree, Malekith can straight up kill him permanently as Destined Death is the only reason we can kill the Elden Beast in the first place. The “secret ending” that takes place with Melina also implies that she can kill the Lord of Frenzied Flame, meaning that someone wielding the full power of it can kill people who scale above the Elden Beast.
@ashaduzzaman3811
@ashaduzzaman3811 14 күн бұрын
Malekith is not killing kratos.
@Getbetter-w3u
@Getbetter-w3u 6 күн бұрын
Yeah no, buddy.
@Getbetter-w3u
@Getbetter-w3u 6 күн бұрын
maliketh is getting one shotted.
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 Жыл бұрын
One argument in the Elden Ring verse’s favor is that, in the Elden Beast fight, the arena is made up of hundreds of Erdtrees. If we take this to be a representation of multiple realities (which is incredibly likely), then the Elden Beast functions on the level of multiversal threats, something which it’s super debatable Kratos can at all contend with. By that logic, not only could the Elden beast have a good chance of defeating Kratos, so does Malenia, from the fact that not only did she resist the goddess of rot for so long, but she had also become the goddess of rot’s physical avatar in phase 2, making Kratos deal with a power being brought down to his comprehension.
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
Too uninterpretable and vague. Much like how the Elden ring works. The universe isn’t deterministic on its existence and it only acts as an enforcer or vassals for an outer gods influence. The Elden beast feat is multi solar system-universal at best.
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
the world tree yggdrasil trancends the concept of space-time, thor splintered it and kratos tanks an fp thor.... that's a feat way beyond infinite realities gow with the world tree scaling could scale the verse from base complex to outerversal.... that's the difference in cosmology, if we adding cosmology then kratos literally negs via no limits fallacy 🗿
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
@@AmsyarBrosku the Yggdrasil only transcends the notion of time and space and it’s not qualitatively superior to those said concepts. The fact that it’s still bounded by the fate of the world implies that it would even be near low complex or outerversal levels of power. People seem to forget that time and space already exists on a metaphysical level and then jerk off the feat to extreme levels.
@ALMSIVI3e427
@ALMSIVI3e427 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t* Yggdrasil is like only low multi at most and loses to Goku lmfao
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMSIVI3e427 This is on top of Kratos never being implied to do high level damage to the world tree. Thor splintered it, but we see how massive the tree is in Ragnarok. A splinter is not gonna destroy it by a long shot. If anything, a better argument is that Kratos killed Nidhogg with assistance, who’s able to ‘trim the roots’, but never implied to be able to harm the tree meaningfully.
@weebkingray4109
@weebkingray4109 Жыл бұрын
so most people don't know this but Kratos is actually stronger than his past self, it may seem like he is "worn down" or "weakened" but that is (mostly) because he doesn't want to go back to his past self, I've also heard that he only uses 30% of his power but that may not be true
@weebkingray4109
@weebkingray4109 Жыл бұрын
Also, the creator of the game said that old Kratos is stronger than his past self and that he has infinite power
@jasonmarshall4522
@jasonmarshall4522 Жыл бұрын
@@weebkingray4109 Infinite strength, not power. As for the 30% of his power thing, that's the first time I've heard it so I'm not sure.
@ricremricrem2221
@ricremricrem2221 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you notice in game the moment he chooses to kill someone they are done, finito, they literally stand no chance. He straight up one taps Bauldur, moves faster than Hiemdall can read minds etc. then only reason Odin didn't get the same treatment is because Kratos was tryin to subdue him and subduing someone is way harder than actually killing them.
@lundoren5240
@lundoren5240 Жыл бұрын
@@weebkingray4109 old Kratos as in the one from the older games? Or old as In age. I don’t see how older kratos is stronger than his older self he lost all his magical abilities.
@MaidenlessScrub
@MaidenlessScrub Жыл бұрын
So he held back during the countless time that boy almost got killed? I never liked the theory that Kratos was holding back, it stripped all the tension and seriousness of the entire experience
@TnD_BigJax
@TnD_BigJax Жыл бұрын
We've never really seen how Kratos is affected by diseases other than the pestilence released by Hermes having no effect, but poison attacks do drain health in the Norse games If Kratos comes down with Scarlet Rot mid battle, he may die if he's by himself without Atreus or Freya to heal him
@elviraweekes3906
@elviraweekes3906 Жыл бұрын
If we are going with Elden ring’s logic then Kratos wouldn’t even need that, he would be practically immune to it because of the. Blades of chaos with their primordial flame burning the Scarlet rot.
@aqz-df4mx
@aqz-df4mx Жыл бұрын
isnt kratos cursed to never die ?
@monsesh1316
@monsesh1316 Жыл бұрын
@@aqz-df4mx Not really.
@bigred212
@bigred212 Жыл бұрын
He'd literally just heal it
@renelopez3547
@renelopez3547 Жыл бұрын
In game his spartan rage can remove any element he's affected by.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 Жыл бұрын
If we’re going by in-universe rules, here are the things that would be capable of stopping him: Destined Death, Scarlet Rot, Unalloyed Gold, The Flame of Frenzy if he’s arrogant enough to try and harness it, and possibly cosmic beings like Astel depending on the full extent of that thing’s power (technically it should be able to teleport people into space, that’s where Astel summons its meteors from).
@chakotah3444
@chakotah3444 Жыл бұрын
Didn't Thor hit the world serpent so hard that it went back in time but then Thor hits Kratos and he remained there? Even Odin was shaping hands with Kratos and yet there Kratos STILL remained.
@nickvega3264
@nickvega3264 Жыл бұрын
No matter the pantheon kratos would collect their weapons and magic and the older kratos would take the time to care and know the power intimately, so like the main character of the game he'd be getting stronger as he goes
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
you probably don't the fact that thor sent jormungandr back through space-time (time travel) the world tree trancends the concept of space-time which could scale the verse around outerversal kratos cannot "permanently" die, cuz y'know he just refuses to die it also depends if it's gow 3 kratos or current kratos (Ragnarok)... gow 3 kratos would be more blinded by rage and would almost instantly try to kill yoi while Ragnarok kratos would most likely try to see how his enemies abilities work kratos was able to tank hits from a bloodlusted fp thor, the same dude that splintered the world tree which contains 9 infinite sized realms and sent jormungandr back in time..... meaning kratos could most likely tank almost any attacks in elden ring kratos was able to beat character's like zeus who literally one-shoted gaia the literal personification of the earth and is also a primordial meaning he's physically stronger than anyone in elden ring.... primordials can literally effect concepts of something like thanatos who literally created the domain of death which is an infinite sized realm that trancends the concept of death it highly depends on how heavy are the stars that radahn was carrying, if it's below an infinite sized realm level then kratos instantly negs
@imperfekt_zen
@imperfekt_zen Жыл бұрын
@@AmsyarBrosku ddeath will kill him no matter what he does lol
@vegitoda4738
@vegitoda4738 Жыл бұрын
@@imperfekt_zen In Kratos' own words "Death can have me, when it earns me". Nothing kills Kratos,HE chooses when he died.
@ZupGrade
@ZupGrade Ай бұрын
4:26 new title: Could Kratos ride the boat? (In lore)
@welltaco1833
@welltaco1833 Жыл бұрын
I think Maliketh is the only one that has a chance to defeat kratos and kill him once and for all using destined death
@Denzz2
@Denzz2 Жыл бұрын
The outer gods scale above Maliketh. So does the Elden Beast. So does potentially placidusax and godfrey.
@CristanioPeweyyy
@CristanioPeweyyy Жыл бұрын
Kratos would love Elden ring. He would casually bump into people that can rival him in power.
@DecimaarZ
@DecimaarZ Жыл бұрын
@@Denzz2 Placiduax and Godfrey doesn’t scale Higher. Only Elden Beast and Outer Gods scales higher than Maliketh.
@welltaco1833
@welltaco1833 Жыл бұрын
@@Denzz2 Maliketh is single-handedly the most important entity in the game other than the outer gods of course. With him dead the order of the world is completely flipped, he serves as a grim reaper and to also keep Marika in check, so at the very least he’s equal to her in power, he also defeated an Empyrean and her army alone so I’d say he ranks above Godfrey and maybe even Placiduisax.
@vegitoda4738
@vegitoda4738 Жыл бұрын
First off, it'd be a miracle if he would even get a chance to use it before Kratos kills him. Second,destined death is too vague to even say what effect it would have on Kratos. Third, Kratos also has a high chance to just elevate into an even higher existence like Athena after his 'death'.
@TheRealCRV
@TheRealCRV Жыл бұрын
Love Souls game lore put into vs battles, its always an interesting watch.
@YeahILoveTea
@YeahILoveTea 10 ай бұрын
this guy spent the whole year removing all the comments against him lol
@rage_tv4493
@rage_tv4493 4 ай бұрын
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@beast33G
@beast33G 2 ай бұрын
What?
@beast33G
@beast33G 2 ай бұрын
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@rage_tv4493
@rage_tv4493 2 ай бұрын
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@zyklan2197
@zyklan2197 2 ай бұрын
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@GodsDissapointment
@GodsDissapointment Жыл бұрын
I could see this being an interesting fight. If he has to play by elden ring rules, it would be a tough ass fight, especially radahn. Which radahn actually did halt the stars as you see them be released upon his defeat in the cutscene. It would be hard to scale if he would beat radahn as radahn constantly holding up the stars and a meteor that was going to destroy his hometown is akin to him tying one arm behind his back and wearing weights on his legs along with the fact we have no true idea how strong he and malenia were in their primes.
@ricremricrem2221
@ricremricrem2221 Жыл бұрын
I mean Kratos scales higher than Atlas who held the entire Greek universe up and last I checked holding a universe is a greater feat than holding the stars so Radahn literally gets one shot. Now if we want to go even further than that by the end of the 3rd game Kratos scales higher than Zeus who scales higher than all the primordial and Titans who created the Greek Multiverse, Space, Time etc. in essence Radahn doesnt even get the chance to fight back againts GOW 3 Kratos much less the stronger GOW Ragnarök Kratos.
@Hiraeth010
@Hiraeth010 Жыл бұрын
He was also holding back fate, it wasn’t just holding the stairs, but holding back fate itself.
@ricremricrem2221
@ricremricrem2221 Жыл бұрын
@@Hiraeth010 Yeah that isn't too big a feat considering Kratos killed fate at one point in the form of the fates
@Hiraeth010
@Hiraeth010 Жыл бұрын
@@ricremricrem2221 yeah, also we’re talking about in elden ring lore with kratos taking the place of the tarnished. The result could maybe be the same if it was just full powered kratos v elden ring, though I wonder if it still would with the tarnished (the player character) involved like some bloody finger invader.
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
@@ricremricrem2221 gow lore zeus is stronger than all primordials except chaos but i do agree with you're statements, kratos would literally solo the verse even if you ignore the Cosmology difference.... if you add the Cosmology bruh that's just unfair gow with the world tree could scale up to outerversal via trancending the concept of space-time
@jacobjimenez3240
@jacobjimenez3240 Жыл бұрын
1:27 it's been confirmed that while he has more power than his younger self, he also shows much greater restraint.
@subjectdelta9775
@subjectdelta9775 Жыл бұрын
Kratos fights and lives as a man. Although he has the power of a god, he almost never shows it anymore. THATS how much restraint he has. He fought Thor, The Norse God of Thunder and Strength, holding back to the level of a man. Which makes the what Kratos does even more impressive.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad Жыл бұрын
It has also been confirmed that he doesn't have most of his old magics and gear anymore becuase their power was tied to the land of Greece. So he might be "stronger" he was probably more dangerous with the blade of Olympus, lighting bolts, ect.
@majespectorkuro8630
@majespectorkuro8630 Жыл бұрын
not that I think it changes much but saying “Kratos is immune to scarlet rot, because he has the fire of gods within him” or something, I don’t think is super accurate. The fire giant literally has the fell god, a god of fire, inside of him and he can be scarlet rotted. Fire staves off scarlet rot but it doesn’t disable it.
@illusivekari
@illusivekari Жыл бұрын
Og Gow and elden is just going around killing a big family of demi gods
@World_Ender
@World_Ender Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right🤣
@SnorlaxBear
@SnorlaxBear Жыл бұрын
gow 1 : kill a god elden ring :too kill a god
@illusivekari
@illusivekari Жыл бұрын
@@SnorlaxBear noice. Either way u still kill families of demi gods in both games
@jacobnewcombe5367
@jacobnewcombe5367 Жыл бұрын
Now this was a straight up killer idea. Nice work Seth ❤
@xenophy5322
@xenophy5322 Жыл бұрын
bro gonna get killed in prison
@YudokunaSekai
@YudokunaSekai 2 ай бұрын
He’s never really shown an affinity for gaming but I’m sure with his reaction time it’d be no problem at all once he learned the controls.
@zenyattafgc
@zenyattafgc Жыл бұрын
If Kratos is to head toward 'Destined Death' then he beats them all. He is literally the destroyer of fate/destiny.
@elviraweekes3906
@elviraweekes3906 Жыл бұрын
He is the killer of fate not the destroyer well in, God of war Ragnarok he is the destroyer of fate so you’re technically right.
@SentinalSlice
@SentinalSlice Жыл бұрын
Destined death is just another name for it. It’s not literally destiny. It’s just called that. It’s more just the concept of death. Think about it like this, if something has the concept of death, then it will eventually die, i.e. be destined for death. It’s also called the Rune of Death.
@bleedingedge9045
@bleedingedge9045 Жыл бұрын
@@SentinalSlice not to mention it destroys body and soul. Which is why anyone who’d think of maliketh fear him
@zenyattafgc
@zenyattafgc Жыл бұрын
@@elviraweekes3906 Yeah, am referencing the Norns. It's basically plot armor. LOL
@zenyattafgc
@zenyattafgc Жыл бұрын
@@SentinalSlice I get that, Ranni explained it. I referencing his plot armor against all types of prophecies/fate/destiny from GOWR
@georgehouliaras7239
@georgehouliaras7239 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see Seth talk more about the Souls games. There is a lot of power scaling potential and speculation on how strong were some of the characters in their prime.
@itsSmiv
@itsSmiv Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day Seth breaks down and power scales soulsborne lore. Awesome video, I'd love to see more souls stuff from you!
@jonnyboy5653
@jonnyboy5653 Жыл бұрын
Bro haven't seen the allegations
@CelestQB
@CelestQB Жыл бұрын
Kratos slaughters the elden ring verse
@PhantomBones101
@PhantomBones101 Жыл бұрын
Strong possibility he could. But we must also consider he would be playing by the rules of the realm. Meaning he can die if the right person kills him. That's my take. Edit: so to answer a question about "playing by the rules of the realm" I mean to make the fight actually mean something either Kratos would be crossing over into the Lands Between without his power from his own universe. I use this type guideline with any "what if" battles to not only make the fight interesting but also make sense. For example it would make no sense for something like the infinity stones to work outside of their universe of origin because its been established that that isn't possible. And since its been proven that Kratos lost his abilities when Greece died there's a chance that if he out right left his own universe his magic would not work anywhere else. That being said his raw power alone could see him through to the end. That being said things operate differently in Elden ring as it was explained in the video. Given the strange way Elden Ring goes about the concept of death dying in this realm complicates things. Without the death rune no one really dies. So for Kratos to die without the aid of the death rune would break the rules of the universe. But there's also the possibility that not being from that universe the rules may not apply to him. But that also means that applies to all other opponents he has been theorized to be pitted against. The big thing here is where the fight takes place. To me that greatly determines the outcome. Not sure that clears up any confusion, but this is all theoretical so in the end the victor will always be chosen by the one who is writing the story.
@lakerfan7432
@lakerfan7432 Жыл бұрын
But would he die?
@-LowResDream
@-LowResDream Жыл бұрын
Even if hes playing by the rules of the world hes escaped hell and even came back from death plus weve seen his fast healing
@jdmyrick-smith7931
@jdmyrick-smith7931 Жыл бұрын
​@@-LowResDream ya, we don't think the Erd Tree Burial would work this time
@manuelmoralez2257
@manuelmoralez2257 Жыл бұрын
@@-LowResDream but that’s the thing when the tree dies you truly die your gone forever no hell nothing light that it’s bleak
@Yougotcaged102
@Yougotcaged102 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, what do you mean "playing by the rules of the realm" ?
@AltMainAlt
@AltMainAlt Жыл бұрын
and he was never seen again. wild man is off the face of earth
@fishyboy2140
@fishyboy2140 Жыл бұрын
I think you got the elden beast thing wrong. The elden beast is a part of the greater will like a sort of commander in an army. It’s said in the elden stars item description that the greater will sent a star bearing a beast to the lands between. Not that the elden beast just sent itself. So there potentially could be more elden beasts but it is not the greater will as a whole.
@MalikCustoms123
@MalikCustoms123 Жыл бұрын
He understood that as he only offered up the interpretation of the Elden Beast as a incarnation of not only order but the Greater Will itself, as a highball for the Elden Beast against Kratos.
@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy
@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy Жыл бұрын
Thats why he said interpretation and gave other arguments. He knew all that already.
@loomingmoon4682
@loomingmoon4682 Жыл бұрын
The Elden Beast isn't just a commander in the GW's army or whatever, it is quite literally the Elden Ring itself, which is a metaphysical object capable of imposing laws of physics and concept on any living being, including the Beast itself, as shown by the fact that the Rune of Death, once unbound, is capable of killing the Elden Beast and any other lifeforms permanently
@o_hell_nah
@o_hell_nah 3 ай бұрын
​@@loomingmoon4682 Ans now we know, that GW just threw some stuff to the lands between, only for some time later leave them, lmao. GW just doesn't care about that place.
@AllyBoyBishop
@AllyBoyBishop Жыл бұрын
It's very unique when you look at the gods. Like the Greek gods he gets stronger as he gets older but he doesn't need to be worshipped or eat the foods they ate to prolong his lifespan. Granted he does look older and in the new games hes also stronger which doesn't really correlate. I think it's more of the fact that hes having to show a great amount of restraint and discipline at all times to hold back His anger and dealing with constant nightmares memories cetera thats making him look older. We know hes over a thousand years old and as a demi god hes proven himself stronger than high ranking gods. Plus so far every time kratos has died hes just said yeah and I'm not doing that today.
@StazzyP
@StazzyP Жыл бұрын
You weren't powerful enough to beat the allegations 😔
@kylekgh
@kylekgh Жыл бұрын
Cant write new videos when you've burnt all the bridges of the people who were doing the content for you
@godobb
@godobb Жыл бұрын
​@@kylekghwouldnt matter even if he tried to make em himself, i dont even think hes monetized
@beluga2342
@beluga2342 Жыл бұрын
BUT WHAT IF
@catdogfishdogcats
@catdogfishdogcats Жыл бұрын
This is an INSANE video idea!
@brandonmccabe4490
@brandonmccabe4490 Жыл бұрын
This is an exciting video idea, can't wait to see how Kratos fairs!
@Nova-3-
@Nova-3- Жыл бұрын
nice pfp brandon
@brandonmccabe4490
@brandonmccabe4490 Жыл бұрын
@@Nova-3- thanks Nova, you too!
@EchoDragonHawk
@EchoDragonHawk Жыл бұрын
He scales just fine in this verse not surprising 😂💪🏼
@brandonmccabe4490
@brandonmccabe4490 Жыл бұрын
@@EchoDragonHawk yeah but I didn't know Elden ring scaling so it was a fresh experiment for me
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 Жыл бұрын
For Placi, I would honestly say that the best way to scale him without breaking any form of calculations beyond measure is to say that the area he resides in simply exists outside of time, but is somehow accessible to those within time. Like a pocket dimension where everything that happens within it simply takes place over an infinitesimally small period compared to the world outside. You'd enter it and leave at the exact same moment. Nothing would change in the world, only within that dimension. This at least then at least allows you to calculate Placi's strengths relative to everything else.
@66maybe66
@66maybe66 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the storm is less of a timestop effect and more a warping of time so dramatic that it's detached from the timescale of everything around it. Relative to the rest of the world, the storm - and indeed Placidusax himself with his scales - is effectively acausal. The flow of time isn't halted, just distorted beyond all meaning, such that anything that happens there could be considered to happen at any point in time, or to not happen at all, simultaneously. This is why Placidusax is still alive inside the storm for us to fight, despite being supposedly slain by Godfrey once before. It's also why the Needle - which only halts the spread of outer god influence (as seen with Malenia and Millicent), not reverses it - is able to completely cure the frenzy flame when used inside the storm. By using it outside the bounds of time, it's as if we ALWAYS had it.
@troublesome3546
@troublesome3546 Жыл бұрын
I think the real question is, could the Tarnished survive the GOW universe? I bring this up because throughout the video I had an image of my head of Baldur knocking on Kratos’ door and seeing the Tarnished before asking “who the hell are you?”
@julianyuh3163
@julianyuh3163 Жыл бұрын
tarnished grants him destined death and proceeds to oneshot him with the sword that is literally a transfigured radagon.
@swiftchancellor159
@swiftchancellor159 Жыл бұрын
The Tarnished is pretty strong if you think about it. Also if he still has his immortality then he will just keep coming back until he downloads Odin's moves and woops his ass lol
@silverblade357
@silverblade357 Жыл бұрын
Tarnished: **
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Жыл бұрын
@@swiftchancellor159 yeah Tarnished has tons of hax and prolly out Haxed the Norse Pantheon easily, the Greeks are debatable
@stealiestag4204
@stealiestag4204 Жыл бұрын
Norse? Yeah, Greek? Blade of Olympus kills immortals, so take that as you will
@greymatter909
@greymatter909 Жыл бұрын
I Love these over the board insights, says a lot about the thought and attention to detail that went into making Elden Ring.
@YeahILoveTea
@YeahILoveTea 10 ай бұрын
guy spent the whole time rem-oving comments for the last year thats against him lol
@kaztheunbreakable
@kaztheunbreakable Жыл бұрын
Love it. There are a few power scaling topics in ER that would be cool, but kinda pointless or impossible. We just don't know how strong people like Ranni or Miquella are, and comparing Malenia's strength to the player characters seems arbitrary. But something like a "How far would Pontiff Sullivan make it in the Lands Between?" would be an awesome video. Midir vs Placidusaxx. Ish like that would be dope
@loganwernicke7604
@loganwernicke7604 Жыл бұрын
"RADAGON I HAVE RETURNED AND I COME SEEKING THE WEED OF LEYNDELL!!!"
@henrydavis8822
@henrydavis8822 Жыл бұрын
I do think that Maliketh's Death won't autokill Kratos, but only because it isn't the full Rune of Death, as some of it was stolen away by Ranni to give to the Black Knife Assassins. I agree with this on every count, even with Kratos holding back his rage.
@kazuha74
@kazuha74 Жыл бұрын
Kratos isn't weakened he just holds back significantly
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 11 ай бұрын
When In life or death as well? Makes no sense
@kazuha74
@kazuha74 11 ай бұрын
@@m3tal. Why not? It’s a video game about a made up Greek god I’m sure they use some creative liberties after all.
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 11 ай бұрын
@@kazuha74 why is he holding back even in a life or death situation
@kazuha74
@kazuha74 11 ай бұрын
@@m3tal. well that’s probably not always the case of course but firstly we’re talking about the same dude that is introduced to us while he’s committing sewerslide so there’s psychological reasons on top of just calming the heck down over the years and coming to realize his brute force methods tend to send him overboard so he wouldn’t likely want to lose control like he had in the past like ya know taking out the majority of the Greek pantheon or the slaughtering he did for Aries that lead him to slaughter his wife and daughter, and have him remember that forever and the consequences of killing all the gods.
@Kira-pv4xq
@Kira-pv4xq 10 ай бұрын
Yes, BECAUSE HE LITERALLY CANNOT DIE, HE LIKE THE TARNISHED BUT Its SUFFERIN. ALSO HE DOESNT WANNA BECOME THAT MONSTER AGAIN BY NOT HOLDING BACK@@m3tal.
@parkerdolson2157
@parkerdolson2157 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great idea! So excited to watch this
@murkwithasmirk6877
@murkwithasmirk6877 Жыл бұрын
I agree. When mentioning the term “Outer God” it is always depicted as outer gods being many times stronger than normal gods. A outer god to a normal god, is what a normal god is to a human. I do think kratos would get rid of scarlot rot as there is that one incantation that cures scarlot rot by purifying yourself with fire but scarlot rot wouldn’t just burn away from the presence of it as observed when there’s fire all over caelid but scarlot rot is still present. It would need fire that is focused specifically onto the scarlot rot and not a fire that is just burning in general if you get what I mean. Basically he would need to control the fire. As for destined death I think it would play a bigger role as the first demigod slain was stabbed with multiple black knives (which contain a fragment of destined death) and instantly died in mind. So the true destined death would be more scary. I assume the destined death effect would be like TRUE damage. It wouldn’t be able to be healed but can be blocked and possibly mitgated to certain extent. So krstos wouldn’t be able to heal from it and it might work by slowly deleting him from existence in current and future time (I say current and future time because people still know about the gloam eyed queen so she would’ve had to existed at one point even though she died to destined death). So destined death either deletes people or destroys their soul permanently. I did go kinda off topic but the point is he would struggle with destined deathand slightly struggle with scarlot rot. That is until he finds out the cure for SR. Just like in the nordic world he had to find out interactions and wouldn’t just know that scarlot rot is cured with fire focused onto it
@SentinalSlice
@SentinalSlice Жыл бұрын
The time thing with the dragon feels pretty out there. It seems more like Placidisax just exists in its own sort of timeless sphere. Like time doesn’t effect things, aging them and stuff.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t go with such a high tier take on Elden Ring lore but it’s fun
@mercylavigne
@mercylavigne Жыл бұрын
Not really, he created a realm outside time and space who bounds all rules of reality just for himself to wait the return of his Outer God. Basically, he's on a parallel universe or dimension who is not affected by the rules of reality.
@zygardegodslayer4750
@zygardegodslayer4750 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, dude created a demiplane with the aspect 'time-stopped'. Scaling him to infinite speed as a result is downright stupid, let alone doing the same for every boss that comes *after* him. TBH that's when the video lost any legitimacy as far as I'm concerned.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Жыл бұрын
@@zygardegodslayer4750 demiplane?
@zygardegodslayer4750
@zygardegodslayer4750 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsButterBean1020 I don't THINK it's a generally accepted rpg term? But basically an extra, miniature world. A new plane of reality, if a pseudo one.
@saecwave9855
@saecwave9855 Жыл бұрын
This was very cool, i would love to see more souls content
@redtail69
@redtail69 3 ай бұрын
I can see kratos brutally ripping of godricks head as godrick prays for mercy
@nateB-l7k
@nateB-l7k 3 ай бұрын
Same
@abellopez7033
@abellopez7033 15 сағат бұрын
Lowkey this is how I imagine that going: Godrick: "pLeAsE sPaRe mE oH gReAt wArRiOr!" Kratos: *You bring shame upon your bloodline.* *neck snapping sound effect*
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 Жыл бұрын
the one biggest worry though/ What would stop Kratos from being infected with Scarlet Rot and then going mad as Radhan did? Scarlet rot being one of those things severely gimped in how it affects the player, but being the absolute WORSE in lore, with no known cure only ways to at best supress it
@LICHEDITZ15
@LICHEDITZ15 Жыл бұрын
The thanatos feat really gives clear insight for how Strong kratos is
@OrinForDaBay
@OrinForDaBay Жыл бұрын
kratos on his way to try to beat elden ring just to get slumped by a naked dude with a clay pot on his head
@kaiidiazz7
@kaiidiazz7 Жыл бұрын
Seth really out here dropping the most creative videos fr 😭
@dillanphillips8211
@dillanphillips8211 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason that’s keeping Kratos from using those Greek powers is his mentality he’s wanted to leave his old life behind him and even trained to control his rage with gods a lot about them can alter it seems just based on their mentality, like Atreus getting sick but him believing himself a mortal and being far weaker, it’s after realizing what is his he stops getting sick and even starts effecting the weather with his anger as well as being strong enough to cause shock waves and stagger a Baldur whose actually trying. I think Kratos saying he tried using those powers was before the events of GOW 4 after all the Blades of Chaos still work after Greece’s destruction, after Kratos’ breakthrough after Ragnorak he might be able to use those powers again, and if he can’t well then I guess that’s that
@samgordy4977
@samgordy4977 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro
@ayubi3642
@ayubi3642 Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI: at the speed of light, time literally stands still, so if the dragon/character are moving at that speed, it is possible to travel without any time passing (with some caveats).
@swiftumbra2748
@swiftumbra2748 Жыл бұрын
Next video: Can Kratos beat the Tarnished of no Renown?
@Wicked061
@Wicked061 Жыл бұрын
A 30 ft fall kills the tarnished. Kratos one shots him with a flick.
@le_m4cho965
@le_m4cho965 Жыл бұрын
@One armed wolf89 in game kratos too,your point? Im not saying that kratos would loose, but using game mechanics is dumb
@RuneKatashima
@RuneKatashima Жыл бұрын
@@Wicked061 Tarnished can also survive a meteor to the face. Game mechanics are weird.
@SentinalSlice
@SentinalSlice Жыл бұрын
I mean the Tarnished just keeps coming back. They’d learn Kratos’s mechanics eventually.
@basedqacist7526
@basedqacist7526 Жыл бұрын
@@SentinalSlice game mechanic argument no.2
@Chinese_Name
@Chinese_Name 9 күн бұрын
If a random nameless character can beat Elden Ring so can Kratos
@Firestar19
@Firestar19 9 ай бұрын
The Blades of Chaos burn with primordial fire, which is how they were able to still work between GoW 3 and GoW 2018. I forget if the Erdtree is primordial or not, or if the Greater Will is primordial, but if it isn't, the Blades of Chaos should be able to burn the Erdtree.
@evillynx5796
@evillynx5796 Жыл бұрын
Great video, and one point regarding the Outer Gods; It is very safe to assume that they are akin to H.P. Lovecraft’s Eldritch beings in scale and in power. This is due to the fact that George R. R. Martin was a co-creater overseeing Elden Ring’s lore and world building. Martin has been on record stating he was heavily inspired by Lovecraft’s work. If you are familiar with his published and written work (yes even the TV show) then you would know he includes many references to Lovecraftian-eque gods and monsters in his works. A few example of these deities include: The Drowned Gods, The Deep Ones, also Fish-like people who worship a frog statue made of oily black stone, and massive cities made again entirely out of oily black stone. All of which are synonymous with Lovecraftian lore and world building. Martin likes to use these Lovecraft’s inspired deity’s to be the foundation of the outerversal gods in his story’s lore, never interacting directly with the story but always being present deep within. So judging off Martin’s own testimony, his previous works, and his tendencies. I can pretty safely say this is the same for Elden Ring.
@Emma7846
@Emma7846 Жыл бұрын
Now I’d love to see Kratos Vs. Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Dark Souls!
@meaningfulmindfulness15
@meaningfulmindfulness15 Жыл бұрын
"Death can have me when it earns me." - Kratos I was reminded of that when we got to the Destined Death stuff. Awesome video. 🤘
@loomingmoon4682
@loomingmoon4682 Жыл бұрын
Love all the God of War fans who are mad at Elden Ring beating Ragnarok for GOTY trying to dispense their frustration in this comment section by claiming he could solo one shot the Elden Ring universe, so funny
@DarthBanana-bf2
@DarthBanana-bf2 3 күн бұрын
Dude if a sweaty teenage boy can Kratos would have a walk in the park
@frankcasamento74
@frankcasamento74 Жыл бұрын
Seth is an elden ring lore channel now and I'm here for it.
@ALiteralBot
@ALiteralBot Жыл бұрын
Happy this videos back
@Funinfuneral-es3ir
@Funinfuneral-es3ir Ай бұрын
Man i feel bad for the world serpent, he's one of the strongest characters but because he doesn't have hands and is so large and basically a mountain size target he isn't able to defend himself. Like if he still had his strength but got a humanoid body he would be able go toe to toe against thor and baldur
@brettz5288
@brettz5288 Жыл бұрын
Love this. Please do a video purely on Thor from Ragnarok.
@ovasquezg23
@ovasquezg23 Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends how Destined Death or the godslayer flames damage him, that may be the best way to kill him in verse here.
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
nope.... nope.... nope.... kratos can easily manipulate Destined Death like what kratos would do all the time.... there's still no one viable argument in which Destined Death is as strong as the greek pantheon or GOWs power scaling
@ranbojd1070
@ranbojd1070 Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfriction yes, its in the name Its destined death he dies and its over because thats HIS destined death
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
@@ranbojd1070 yep I can tell you. don't know anything about kratos aka GOW in general
@ranbojd1070
@ranbojd1070 Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfriction since when its Kratos = all of GOW unlike you i have played the gamrs
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
@@ranbojd1070 dude.... kratos literally trancends the concept of death man literally beat thanatos the primordial god of death that literally created the domain of death which is an infinite sized realm 🗿
@oblatespheroid6346
@oblatespheroid6346 Жыл бұрын
I love Elden Ring but… I’ve seen every boss in Elden Ring get basically one shotted by a mute 5’5” maidenless virgin with a hammer. The tarnished take 3 or 4 hits and they are dead and they have no resurrection stone. While Kratos has been killed 3 times and brought back to life by either physically dragging himself out of a hellish dimension or getting a magic boost from someone. Kratos has fought his way through time and space and conquered multiple lands. Kratos fell from the sky and survived, the Tarnished tripped over a rock and died after 10 feet. *Kratos laughs in realm shift as the tarnished tries to bloodhound step away*.
@o_hell_nah
@o_hell_nah 3 ай бұрын
Completly ignore one characters feats, and just talk about gameplay and mechanics, while not doing this to the other one. Most sane powerscaller.
@anuvette
@anuvette 2 ай бұрын
​@@o_hell_nahreal
@trevhart2124
@trevhart2124 Жыл бұрын
Pffft. It's a good thing I had this tab still open.
@GamerCentricc
@GamerCentricc Жыл бұрын
I think Odin in his prime (warring days before he switched his strength for knowledge) would be somewhere closer or could even be stronger than Zeus.
@DrewADuckProductions
@DrewADuckProductions Жыл бұрын
As someone who has played both GoW and Elden Ring, yet never thought about putting Kratos through the ER gauntlet, this video/concept literally blew my fckn mind
@Biffo316
@Biffo316 Жыл бұрын
Seth is finished it seems. I hope fir his own sake he's getting helo
@CaveGamer360
@CaveGamer360 Жыл бұрын
This aged so bad lmao.
@lavarball1237
@lavarball1237 Жыл бұрын
This aged terrible lmfao
@beluga2342
@beluga2342 Жыл бұрын
BUYHAHAHAHAHA
@SentinalSlice
@SentinalSlice Жыл бұрын
I mean Radahn was actually stopping stars. He prevented the moving of constellations. He just so happens to also be holding back giant meteors as well.
@BigMarlyh
@BigMarlyh 8 ай бұрын
my dumbass thought he was gonna do a Kratos build playthrough 💀💀💀
@aaronhunter6268
@aaronhunter6268 Жыл бұрын
I like how you talk about the lore/gameplay problem with God Of War. It seems like people don’t realise that they need to have Kratos nerfed for gameplay like needing ladders or not being able to jump over a wall. If the game was made in reference to the lore you wouldn’t be able to enjoy the game
@danieltirico6593
@danieltirico6593 Жыл бұрын
WRONG I want to play that game XD
@Zagreus717
@Zagreus717 Жыл бұрын
@@danieltirico6593 cue Kratos going all out and giving Thor the Hercules treatment with Mjölnir.
@Big_H2
@Big_H2 Жыл бұрын
Do more Elden ring videos and lore videos This game despite being released a year ago is still very very popular and profitable. The pantheism is very interesting and a billion videos can be made on it. A lot people who played the game do not understand or are able to power-scale Elden ring and you in the video are very knowledgeable of the game and lore.
@xxcoltonxx2540
@xxcoltonxx2540 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this hy
@ezaphycooler1877
@ezaphycooler1877 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty hype ngl
@mememan958
@mememan958 Жыл бұрын
Outer One is outer. Primordials in GoW only affect their pantheons universe. There’s no overlap. Outer one created all of existence. Outerversal. Elden Beast 1 dinks Kratos without runes
@AmsyarBrosku
@AmsyarBrosku Жыл бұрын
bruh you really think elden ring is outerversal?! 😂 it caps at complex multiversal 🗿🤡 just because primordials of certain pantheon can't effect other pants doesn't mean they can't kill you with their fuqin magic 🤦‍♂️ plus gow cosmology literally outscales in every way possible 💀
@mercylavigne
@mercylavigne Жыл бұрын
@@AmsyarBrosku Uses emotes = Invalid
@Mok3yMokEy
@Mok3yMokEy Жыл бұрын
Seth and Souls is a W combo. I’ve been waiting for a vid like this since you mentioned Bloodborne in your first Kratos video. Bro really teased us and left us hanging for like 5 years
@opadrip
@opadrip Жыл бұрын
Kratos is the prime example of statements over feats. Most of his fights seem MCU level but the author says he's universal so I guess we gotta take it as is.
@seriousspikesam7770
@seriousspikesam7770 Жыл бұрын
MCU is hella nerfed compared to the comics.
@Freethinker_94
@Freethinker_94 Жыл бұрын
What?
@davidsuper773
@davidsuper773 Жыл бұрын
I hope you do more Elden Ring scaling
@maroonspice9481
@maroonspice9481 Жыл бұрын
Great Concept!!
@cj_mrgoldenfox15
@cj_mrgoldenfox15 Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. Greek Kratos might take a while to adapt to the legends, gods, and people, while Norse Kratos would be much quicker since the environment is a little closer to what he's used to. Either way, we know the final outcome, The God Of War will fight another pantheon
@sammyboi8938
@sammyboi8938 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. Elden Ring!!! And God of War!!!
@baldxiao
@baldxiao 29 күн бұрын
Although it's used often in powerscaling, the ability to crete realms doesn't mean they have the power to destroy them
@tamamonomae2740
@tamamonomae2740 Жыл бұрын
Few things to add/correct: Radhan's constellation holding feat: This is a massive feat as the stars are actually a form of destiny (fate) of beings, including the beings on radhan's level like Ranni, which meant he also froze his own destiny. The stars are also a form of outer god influence or a form of extreme power beyond normal mind comprehension (as the people who created magic or star magic were able to observe something in the stars along with their own destiny or observe nothing but the void). The former being an assumption since even though the later is confirmed, the former is not outside of certain enemies/bosses coming from the stars. Which is also related to a form of outer gods attempting to invade the lands in between and the moon (which I won't touch on). So quiet literally radhan is on the level comparable to the gods when he was sane. Able to technically defy the golden order. This also means that- All the gods scale around that level, with demi gods to match. and that the scarlet rot is a vastly emped up version of Melenia, who won/forced a draw using the scarlet rot. Further more: Destined death causes death. It's not instant death it just inflicts death. Which causes immortal beings to become mortal or well killable, and it can be used even on specific aspects like the soul or body (which resulted in deathblight and ranni's puppet body respectively). I genuinely cannot explain it either because it just makes it so that you die or pushes you towards death. All in all, I don't think kratos would win/survive in the elden ring world once he starts hitting certain demi god bosses. (mainly those playing around their respective elements/gods power). Though that's only if he doesn't make use of the rune or is excluded from the rules of Elden ring. If he get's to use their powers and abilities then yeah he would overcome everything.
@SnorlaxBear
@SnorlaxBear Жыл бұрын
whatbout godfrey can radahn beat godfrey
@tamamonomae2740
@tamamonomae2740 Жыл бұрын
@@SnorlaxBear by lore. No. Godfrey is basically what the player character is. A demigod hunter, a god slayer, except for the golden order. The man lead a war to conquer most of the middle lands with massive success. Pushing back against all forms of outer god encroachment and defeating gods, godly avatars, creatures from beyond, and he even did that while the concept of death was still prevalent so unlike the player character who get to enjoy trying till they succeed, he did that in 1 life and for the most part he appears completely fine when he was faced. The man is basically kratos for elden ring. A legend that you can't kill and will win. So no I don't think Radhan wins, prime or post scarlet rot.
@outerheaven4384
@outerheaven4384 Жыл бұрын
All those feats you mentioned don’t even come close to Kratos.
@tamamonomae2740
@tamamonomae2740 Жыл бұрын
@@outerheaven4384 I only mentioned 1 feat and if we're comparing feats. Radhan's is better since he controlled the fates of god like beings who each could control the universe or have mutliuniversal influence. The feats kratos has just does not match the insanity of lore accurate elden ring.
@outerheaven4384
@outerheaven4384 Жыл бұрын
@@tamamonomae2740 lmao love how wrong you are.
@IAmKnightsDawn
@IAmKnightsDawn Жыл бұрын
Think about the fight with Radahn. As the player, we are fighting him while he's expending massive amounts of magic on holding the stars in place to keep more astels from coming down. Dude was a badass and we fought him while he was 1, mad, and 2, weakened from his magic use.
@valk232
@valk232 Жыл бұрын
you are talking about kratos and if he loses important people to him then this would go similar to the hercules fight
@IAmKnightsDawn
@IAmKnightsDawn Жыл бұрын
@@valk232 I wasn't talking about kratos at all with this comment. Was just mentioning how we are fighting a super weakened Radahn. If he was in his prime, I would be terrified.
@Freethinker_94
@Freethinker_94 Жыл бұрын
Good job seth nice video
@TheArchevil
@TheArchevil Жыл бұрын
More Souls is always good. How about ranking Fromsoft's bosses? The realm of the Elden Beast might be more impressive than Yggdragsil depending on if each tree represents a planet or a universe. Some have speculated that each FromSoftverse is connect by those trees, because Dark Souls 1 has Ash Lake which is also a place with similar trees though different of color. The trees could also represent alternate dimensions of the Lands Between with each tree representing the dimensions of the other players who exist parallel to ours (that's the canon explanation for why we occasionally see other players) which would explain why each one of those trees has the same color. That could make the realm be connected to an infinite amount of alternate dimensions (or at the very least as much dimensions as there are players). That should put it miles above Yggdragsil. Each tree could also represent a planet, but there is nothing in any of Fromsoft's lore I can think of that even hints at that.
@JuliusAureliusMaximus
@JuliusAureliusMaximus Жыл бұрын
To my understanding, an infinite amount of alternate, 4D dimensions are still limited in the sense that time and physical dimension set the ceiling on their vastness. On the other hand, the Yggdrasil transcends those very concepts entirely, making it 5th dimensional at the very least. And kratos, while never showing that he can entirely destroy this minimum 5th dimensional object, at least shows that he can damage it. I could be wrong, but in my eyes damage and durability directly proven to be on a 5th dimensional level is far beyond endless 4D feats.
@TheArchevil
@TheArchevil Жыл бұрын
​@@JuliusAureliusMaximus The realm of the Elden Beast would be the place that connects those universes and not part of the universes itself. That would make it similar to Yggdragsil. The main difference would be that The Realm of the Elden Beast would link as much universes as there are players while Yggdragsil connects 9 realms/universes. It also wouldn't be the only 5th dimensional space as the Dragonlord Placidusax resides in one created by himself which makes higher dimensional feats seem like a lesser deal than in GoW.
@SnorlaxBear
@SnorlaxBear Жыл бұрын
so i count that theres 9 edtrees
@uninspiredrambler
@uninspiredrambler Жыл бұрын
Others have said it before, but it makes sense that Kratos is really a God of Rage. Like a Greek hulk he becomes more powerful by embracing anger & hate. It helps explain why he's weaker in the latest games: he's actively resisting his source of strength. But his real strength is his adaptability. He is always utilizing the magic/ weapons & tactics of whatever enemy he faces. Without a reason to hold back his rage besides just self control he'd definitely fuck shit up
@rhamnation7236
@rhamnation7236 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know crisis was his editor. I love his metal gear videos.
@evronian1129
@evronian1129 Жыл бұрын
But, could Kratos beat Rick, Soldier of God?
@Godrizz_the_golden
@Godrizz_the_golden Жыл бұрын
Question of the year
@abellopez7033
@abellopez7033 15 сағат бұрын
The real question is can he beat LetMeSoloHer?
@weasel003gaming7
@weasel003gaming7 Жыл бұрын
I'd personally say the Demigods get pushed over, but once Maliketh and the real Gods come into play Kratos would find that the strength of Runes would be helping him out far more than his original power, and so it'd be like if the Tarnished started out at like, level 60 with equivalent equipment. Yeah, his power would be substantial at the beginning, could solo the Demigods well enough, but you still gotta level up, boy.
@skorbusale
@skorbusale Жыл бұрын
Kratos vs an undead in underwear with a big stick
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 Жыл бұрын
This video actually came back. Lmao
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