Could OV-10 Bronco Perform Danger Close CAS At The Battle Of Mogadishu? (WarGames 78) | DCS

[@splitair-dcs]

Hello guys, thank you for the Test and the Review 😉 The Split-Air are working on the performance issues, it will be fix ASAP!!! We hope you love the mod 😎

[@solidlift]

Thanks for a wonderful mod & all the work!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks guys! Good work!

[@ToumaniSquirrel]

Really loved how it handled and how easy it was to aim the guns.

[@OLIV3R_YT]

Thanks for the mod, you rock!

[@stephengordon4081]

You need to read the books " a lonely kind of war " and " da nang diary " both by forward air controllers in veitnam. This will give you an insight into how both fly the aircraft and deploy the weapons. Plus are a good read.

[@munokhoi5800]

I was stationed at Margarita while serving with C1/5, watched OV-10’s operate often. Have seen recon jump out of the back of one. Semper Fi.

[@kegman83]

Wow, someone really loved their Broncos. They even got the CalFire skin.

[@the_beef4762]

That skin is sexayyyy

[@ecbst6]

Thumbs up just for the OV-10 🙂

[@ceverett68]

hell yeah

[@jameslanning8405]

Bronco's one of my favorites! The "pre-A 10!" Listening to the game plane for this mission... Our boys are in trouble! Who will yell at Cap, for all the friendlies he gets!? lol No... The engines are the same. It's the reduction gear boxes, that control rotation of the props. You can get more speed, if you adjust your props in level flight. You still have the props set for takeoff! Giving the propeller blades more or less pitch, allows them to add or remove speed. without adjusting the throttle. "Most, but not all," propeller driven aircraft, since pre-WWII, have had "Constant speed propellers." Meaning that you can adjust the angle of attack, for the propeller blades, not just use the throttle. I don't know about these DCS mods, but in most simulations, you can find the technical charts that show you the best speed and best fuel economy, by adjusting the throttle and propeller pitch.

[@samueljanderson]

OMG. I remember working with these guys during our war games. These guys are deadly at night. They just hover and watch you from above. They can detect anything moving and what's about at night from miles up. Semper Fi.

[@Taoweiji]

Super cool. When I was flying in Namibia, my company was briefly looking at getting an OV-10 Bronco for doing medevac flights. We ended up using C401 and C208s.

[@Mariner311]

Beautiful Birds - AA440 is just down the road from me, and I see her regularly flying the AirAttack mission for Cal Fire - they are MAGNIFICENT in directing wildland fires here in California. I also spent some time with a Marine OV-10 borrowed by the US Navy for AFAC/NGF.

[@EvolvedTactical]

Bronco was a great platform. My grandfather commanded MAC-V SOG's Flight Detachment during his 3rd tour in Vietnam (his first 2 were as Special Forces). He flew OV-1 Mohawks there, but qualified on and flew Broncos later when was commanded Hunter Army Airfield in Georgia. He had nothing but good things to say about the Bronco.

[@boyetsotelo9235]

Flew lots of missions with this aircraft! Bravo Broncos! 💥

[@IRONIC1688]

I love this plane! Wasn't aware it was out. 10$ donation for sure. Just the sound of these prop engines, the smell of napalm and the Ho Chi Min trail...

[@alexandrebelinge8996]

agreed !

[@bofwappy]

Friends with a OV 10 pilot from Vietnam, he took me up in a 1969 Cesna Bonanza. Made that plane do things I did not think it was capable of, you could tell he did close air support. Great video!

[@Donie-cn9qq]

OV-10 was an awesome aircraft...glade to finally to it in DCS...now let's see some OV-10 A10 team ups...OOH RAH!!

[@JC622Kilo57J]

CalFire #230 is based just up the road from me at Nevada County Airport. During fire season (which is 8 months out of the year now), you know serious things are happening when you hear the Bronco and the two S-2Ts sortie more than about once in a day.

[@anthonyb5279]

The OV-10 I flew had a full glass cockpit from Honeywell. One of my most favorite planes to fly.

[@hook86]

Lucky.

[@toxicclown3035]

Love the OV-10. It was the first aircraft model that I got to choose for myself as a child. Because it was bristling with weapons.

[@gunnyd8135]

This mission is optimum for an AH-1Z Cobra or Longbow. As I remember the Broncos firing on impact areas in Camp Pendleton, CA, their attack angles were acute, and as you pointed out, they set up miles away from the target. It looked like some of your attack angles were too flat, which limited the amount of bursts on the targets; and you ate a couple of buildings.

[@TacShooter]

I first encountered the OV-10 Bronco pulling guard duty in the approach area at Eielson AFB in Alaska while serving in the Army. Encountered it a second time as a mod for Operation Flashpoint: Resistance where I found that I could dump so much ordnance in a single strafing run while throttled down. Only learned recently that it could carry paratroopers.

[@Istandby666]

My biological father designed the A.T.O.P. (Advanced Technology Observation Platform) to replace the Bronco. The ATOP is a forward swept wing design with twin booms and a contra rotating prop. It was armed with 2 sidewinder's on the wing tips and 3 Phoenix missiles on each pylon under each wing. It was accidentally thought to be a Northrop Black Project. I found the ATOP in a book of Northrop Black Project patches. They described the ATOP as a Star Trek enemy ship....lol They thought it had clocking abilities. Nice.... it's still on Google. They even show the model we built hanging off the wing of our Cessna 150. I want to build an rc of the ATOP.

[@tonyroberts4807]

I bet if you did this again without all the extra weight you'd preform much better. Ditch the sidewinders, the paratrooper, and only take a single pod of smoke rockets(if available) to mark the baddies more accurately. Otherwise, great video, love the bronco. Another challenge to try is landing them on the LHD. If I remember correctly, they could actually be operated from them and due to their great STOL performance didn't require arresting gear and could get airborne within the length of the fight deck.

[@trev8591]

That's a nicely modeled airframe by the looks of it. Thanks, Team. A bit of light entertainment on such a sad day.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

That has got to be the most beautiful GR landing I have ever seen!

[@mrdlama4036]

The Philippines used bronco’s recently in the marawi conflict in Mindanao Good footage of them and there attack angles on KZbin

[@rallock67]

I love the Bronco, one of the first models I built when I was a kid. Would be great if that rear paratrooper could be a door gunner.

[@FarmerDrew]

I love the OV-10 Bronco. I read that the Marines were performing exercises, they tried to lock on to it with even the latest Stingers, they couldn't because of the prop wash.

[@terryboyer1342]

American Andrew Dutton I love the Bronc too. But I strongly question the idea they can't be "locked on" by Stingers or other IR missiles. MANPADS have locked on to Cessnas, drones and other piston engine aircraft which are smaller in IR signature and have prop wash. AC-130s are very vulnerable to IR SAMs and they are turbo prop powered like the Bronc. Also helicopters have huge rotor wash yet are vulnerable. Lastly an OV-10 was shot down by an Iraqi SAM in the first Gulf War. By an IR MANPAD I believe.

[@TheWhoamaters]

@@terryboyer1342 some helis do use their prop wash to disperse the heat signature, but without the system being used they are still quite vulnerable true

[@rubiconnn]

My favorite story of the Bronco is when a pilot was telling a story about paratroopers loaded in the small cargo hatch int he back. One of them was reluctant to jump but the pilot just raised the nose far enough to essentially dump him out the back lol.

[@TheWhoamaters]

@@rubiconnn That'd do it

[@doemacmonkey]

Outside my area of expertise but I thought modern MANPADs were sensitive enough to detect the differential temperature between air and fuselage, hence there all-aspect status today. That the scoops diffusing engine exhaust into the rotor was more a case of “there’s no point making it too easy for them”

[@ceverett68]

thank you for this. love the ov10 and it was great seeing y'all put them to work

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

Simba gets the quote of the day "Simba is subsonic, be there in 30 minutes" as opposed to "Maverick is supersonic be there in 30 seconds" lol love it. There's an excellent documentary called Machine Guns, Rockets, and 3-Tons of Ammunition on the Bronco in Vietnam. Good watch

[@therocinante3443]

First GR episode I've seen in a long time. What a fun one! It's convinced me to get the bronco. It's like.. Between a chopper and an A-10

[@tacticalnuclearpotato]

Highly recommend the book A lonely kind of war by Marshall Harrison, fantastic read about an FAC pilot in a Bronco in Vietnam

[@OldStreetDoc]

I’m over the moon about the OV-10 Bronco being out now, and it looks OUTSTANDING! That’s one of my all-time favorite aircraft, and especially for its history. Condolences to the British GR members on the passing of their sovereign Queen Elizabeth II. ‘Elizabeth the Great’.

[@robinsteenson2297]

Thank you for your condolences. She will be impossible to replace.

[@imellor711]

Nice module...Great video, thx Cap.👍

[@TheNecromancer6666]

We had them in Germany, but ours had Jetpacks. By that I mean ours could equip a J85 on their back to improve speed and survivability when operating as a spotter over the Fulda gap. With our Gina's and Alphajets they were a super dangerous pairing.

[@alanholck7995]

I was stationed in Okinawa when the Mogadishu Blackhawks went down. Guy who lived 2-doors over in family housing was a Green Beret CWO-4; he personally knew several of those KIA.

[@glenproctor1999]

Many, many years ago I bought the Airfix kit of the OV-10. Been one of my favourites ever since. Still in use in the Gulf War because it was so freaking good at what it was designed to do! If the rumoured Vietnam map comes along, I foresee a lot of Bronco busting!

[@matthewcaughey8898]

The OV-10 was actually phased out during the Gulf War. They determined it was just too slow and had a high chance of being hit by SA-7 and SA-14 MANPADS systems

[@soundsurgen3293]

One of my uncle's flew these in Vietnam, he said that this was the best plane to attack ground forces. He was a USMC pilot who had one of these in a civilian version and that was a beast growing up flying around the city and state of Arizona was awesome growing up as kid!!!!

[@johnhermann5882]

Great video and great Landing! I'll be downloading this over the weekend.

[@Anarchy_420]

Hell yeah OV-10 Bronco in DCS!!🤯👍👍 OV-10 VS A-10 OV-10 VS Pucara OV-10 VS Mosquito OV-10 VS Super Tucano OV-10 VS P-47

[@timblack6422]

We used to have Broncos at Sembach Air Base in west Germany during the 80s

[@Dave-gd1mw]

Would love to see this with the A-1E Skyraider if it’s ever added. Another low and slow CAS from Vietnam.

[@seanquigley3605]

Nice to see a Bronco up in a Sim. Used to have one of the Prototypes at the Yankee Air Force before we lost her in the hanger fire.

[@joemomma1776]

FINALLY 😁 When I first found this channel I asked about this plane and I finally get to see it. Watching in on TV now do it justice gentlemen!!

[@rainerbehrendt9330]

Nice Plane. First Scene and Blue Thunder comes in Mind

[@Knightfang1]

Cant remember if you have ever covered it but there is a somewhat famous video from the 1991 Venezuelan coup attempt where a loyalist F-16 shoots down a rebel OV-10 with an extremely close range low altitude guns kill

[@davidgermain]

what a cool plane great addition to DCS

[@wintermatthias3698]

Damn!! That looks so freakin awesome!!!!😱😱

[@RossOneEyed]

having fun with her, still figuring it out though. Had to undo the FC3 clickable cockpit....need to get the coms figured out to talk with the fast movers.

[@carlkeune6206]

love that you are flying the Venezuelan OV-10, love that plane beautiful.

[@tylerzettl8085]

F16 vs bronco reenactment next!

[@forMacguyver]

Ended with a Reapers Bang. Love it !

[@johneckert1690]

It would have been nice if they included the GPU-2/A, A 20 mm cannon. The unit weighs only 586 lb (266 kg) loaded with 300 rounds of ammunition. It has selectable fire rates of either 700 rpm or 1,500 rpm. They could have also made the Mk 4 Mod 0 Gun pod available. This pod is fitted with the MK11 Mod 5 20 mm cannon, along with 750 rounds of ammunition. In the case of the OV-10, the unit was used by VAL-4, a Navy squadron assigned to Bình Thủy District, Vietnam, and was used extensively for close air support missions.

[@hook86]

Agreed. These are much needed.

[@alancranford3398]

North American's OV-10 Bronco was designed as a helicopter escort--among other missions. Its main jobs were FAC and COIN--with some capability as a light cargo and liaison airplane. Broncos were supposed to be able to live with the grunts as a foreward-deployed asset.

[@matthewd4061]

Love the nod to CAL FIRE 💪🏻 I’m from the Central Valley California, they do a great job w all the fires we have around the state.

[@likeomgitsjason]

I work for Cal Fire so it was fun to see one of our planes in there 👍

[@dimetime35c]

Well normally they'd have had AC-130 gunship support. Washington decided they didn't need that for the mission.

[@philiplaidlaw]

The CALFIRE units are based at McClellan Air Force Base north of Sacramento, California. about 50 miles from my home.

[@01LArams]

I love the guy at 16:42 that walks into the wall , like " ok I'm out "

[@timothybayliss6680]

Lots of aircraft like this IRL use the same control layout for rudder and wheel brakes. Right rudder toe activates right brake and vice versa. It doesnt matter if the brakes come on when airborne and really the rudder doesn't do much when reversing.

[@fishonkayakadventure]

OV-10 is the BEST COIN/CAS/FO aircraft every made. absolutely love that little plane.

[@jebe9337]

Read up on Combat Dragon II in concerns to the OV-10. Great to hear how it’s been utilized during GWOT, and makes a very viable CAS platform.

[@way2sh0rt07grad]

I saw an awesome documentary about that and got excited that they brought it back to combat operations. Too bad the new Crop Duster is taking it's place.

[@jebe9337]

@@way2sh0rt07grad I believe that Erik Prince (aka Blackwater) had that same concept a while back. Besides the OV-10, I think the A-1 Skyraiders would be a perfect fit back into a CAS role. Plenty of solid options besides creating a new platform.

[@MrOhms13]

"The OV-10 is the superior platform because of the optional paratrooper." - a paratrooper

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@TigerWalts]

I believe they would cram up to 5 paratroopers into the back. Rapid deployment was achieved by the pilot pulling into a steep climb.

[@MrOhms13]

@@TigerWalts so, they're up to five times better?

[@jed4265]

Love the Bronco, thanks for introducing us to it. Idea to try: Mi-24 with the insane gunpods? And maybe some crazy chap trying the 30mm launchers?

[@CrabSpirits]

This mod would be a game changer if you could fly the NOGS version. Like a mini AC130. Hopefully Split Air keeps improving it, as it's already awesome.

[@karlchilders5420]

Those were MH-60s.. The differences are worth mentioning. Same as the 160th Chinooks are MH-47s. btw, I knew a lot of the guys at VMO-2 out of MCAS Camp Pendleton that flew the OV-10D, the up-engined and upgraded Bronco. It was an EXCELLENT FAC platform. You can also go look up the huge issue that spawned as as result of the shootdown of the CO and a CW3 (at the time) during GW1: LtCol Cliff Acree and CWO Guy Hunter. They were taken POW, but the shit-show of the shootdown was the CO took more than the number of days "ciphers" he was supposed to. Because those comms ciphers would have resulted in anyone that had access to them being able to listen in on secure communications, a worldwide emergency destruction message was sent out and everyone, EVERYONE had to destroy 30 days of ciphers and re-key every bit of secure comm kit they had - from STU-III SECTELs to PRC aviation radios to HF/UHF/VHF tactical radios for air to air, air to ground, ground to ground, and even ship to shore/ship to ship comms were re-keyed within a day. I can not impress upon you fine folks what an undertaking this was at that time - the automation did not exist as it does today to do these things and there were several generations of comms gear (some of which was even from Vietnam ere tech) in circulation. Huge huge deal. The two USMC Aviation POWs were eventually released, but they not only sustained injuries on ejection they were also beaten up pretty badly. You can see CWO Hunter's eyes were both Racoon'd black and blue. From what I see this is an excellent module, and it brings back the memories of the way those things sounded, flew, and brought the aviation assets in the AO to bear on enemy positions. btw, the reason the thing is not "fast" despite the large amount of torque/power, is because of that big hershey bar wing. It made it an EXCELLENT short-field asset (it IS VSTOL after all) but inhibited its speed potential as a result. The D model btw could carry more than one paratrooper, I do not recall how many but I have seen and remember myself seeing at least 4 Marine paratroopers coming out of the back of them at Pendleton. They would climb up, about 50* AOA, and the guys would gently tumble out while it basically hung on the props. The guys that jumped said it was a GREAT plane to jump from, if you can fit in the back.

[@pylt93]

You guys should do a reenactment of the f16 vs ov10 that took place in Venezuela dousing a coup in the 90s, there are several real life videos

[@pradobombillo]

Loved That Venezuelan Bronco! Greetings from Caracas!

[@PEZ1985]

Bronco!!!! Awesome, one of my faves.

[@AnimeFan-gp6jb]

Since SOCOM has selected the AT-802U Sky Warden as its Armed Overwatch aircraft (which might be used for Bronco-type missions in the future), will we be seeing the Sky Warden in any future videos?

[@danielblea3520]

We also need a massive group formation flight for the Queen

[@mattholmes2376]

No we don't

[@Patrician9000]

Followed the link, you're a gentleman and an officer Cap

[@frostyspace2839]

i know a guy who used to fly the ov-10

[@shakeandbake7324]

The bronco bucked them up big time.

[@Luffydkenshin]

They're using the Cal Fire Broncos right now to lead the PHOSCHEK tankers with our Big Bear and Fairview fires (both happening at the same time)

[@Power5]

That seems like it can be a full module on the store. Needs some damage model and rest of systems working, but wow, that is top level work.

[@AtomicSquirrelHunter]

The levers next to the throttles are called 'condition levers'. They have nothing to do with prop rpm, they control pitch. I was a crew chief for 67-14687, now known as NASA 524. It was one of the 5 OV-10's selected for the 2015 Iraq mission but was not used.

[@martianvideo]

The best bit was the ram ram final seconds!

[@michaelrowland4021]

Great video, Cap use rocket on troops away from the bus. Guns on troops near the bus. Try it again

[@blockchainreaction762]

I have about 3000 hrs on this bird. I was an element lead, instructor and test pilot for the OV-10 A. My favorite button is the MASTER ARM ON! This means I'm already HOT and getting ready to release ordnance.

[@Patrician9000]

I think it would be amazing to use the smoke feature in coordination with ground elements(TAC-P) to overfly a position, mark the direction of attack or area and direct airstrikes with that.

[@ian12262]

Excellent rough-field performance too, which should appeal to you guys. Worth a 10 buck donation from me, I think.

[@ian12262]

Been having some fun with this - took a while to figure out how to fire rockets ("release weapon" (i.e. fire rockets/missiles) is not filed under 'weapons', where "fire weapons" (i.e. guns) is. Limitations of the damage model can be very amusing 😄 - try landing with the gear up then, when you've stopped sliding, put the gear down & watch what happens in the F2 view.🤣

[@kellywalker9268]

I'm excited about this one

[@jcm028]

CAL FIRE doing work all over california atm. Per usual the state is ablaze. (btw Cap, RIP HM Q Elizabeth)

[@CMDRKragos]

No way I was literally watching Black Hawk down today lmao this is Awesome

[@stratotramp6243]

Love the Bronco, bit ungainly on the tarmac, but adds to its appeal. Have an Revell model of it in the pile to build!

[@OLIV3R_YT]

Wow, the DCS modding scene is awesome!

[@havocmwf]

I LOVE this plane soooooo much.

[@appalachianamerican2075]

Now all we need is the F-4 to get some good prairie fire missions. But in the meantime, I recall in TG2 Maverick said the hornet was "tailor made" for the strike on the uranium enrichment plant. Personally, I believe the aircraft best suited to the mission would have made the movie an Iron Eagle sequel. What would've done the mission better- the F-16 or F-18?

[@doemacmonkey]

Well…..the F16 would have done a poor job from a carrier, but that’s not your question - personally I think an F35 would have done a better job but the line in the movie about the GPS lock was included because they wanted to film the actors in the actual planes, and there are no 2 seater F35s. Of course in the real world, they would not have sent 4 planes for a high value target like that, they would have sent a multi lobed attack including suppression, jamming, etc and swamped the target and airfield together.

[@johnhmstr]

would wager flying with minimal loadout (no sidewinder and only 2 rocket pods) for this mission would help the performance a ton. Might be worth a revisit since its such a sexy plane.

[@Larph13]

Our airforce still has a fleet of this bad boys in service. We are slowly replacing them now with MRFs with FA-50.

[@linusa2996]

I'd like to see this as an official mod.

[@bruennlein]

Next thing could be a Bronco dogfight :D Another interesting option would be to use it agains SAMs of it´s time, like the SA-2. The RCS might be small enough to get close.

[@mediis]

Thanks for this video. 40 years ago I lived at Osan AFB where we had OV-10's, F-4's, (REDACTED), and we were getting new F-16's. My father flew in OV-10's every once in a while to do surveying. So I really didn't know what they could do. It was enjoyable to finally watch them in action.

[@thalo215]

this is the kind of plane I've been waiting for.

[@blackhatch46]

Man I was wanting this!

[@SpartanCoProductions]

Cap, im sure this is already on the to-do list, but you have to re-do the video of the F16 shooting down the OV-10 over Venezuela

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

The _OV-10 Bronco_ is IMO a BEAUTIFUL AIRPLANE.

[@kevkeary4700]

I love the Bronco, deadly piece of gear.

[@medusassnakes70]

Love the OV-10 but jet jockeys just can't handle the slower planes. They expect to be able to pull up quickly and end up cramming into the ground or doing a face-plant into a building. As always this was great fun.

[@CJRoberts8812]

I didn't catch whether it is available, but for a "guns" mission, you could replace the station 2 and 4 rockets with GPU-2A gun pods. Also, the M60s should have a 500 round each, load.

[@robandcheryls]

On of my top 3 favorite aircraft, ever. 🇨🇦 Vet

[@Mobius118]

Random question, but watching the end of this video made me think… DCS currently has no blackout/grayout effect for ejecting (in first person), but since ejection seats can yield a range of accelerations from 5 to 20 G’s shouldn’t there be some vignette or greying out effect at the edges of the screen during pilot ejection in DCS? (Not to the point of actual blackout but some effect as blood is drawn from the head?) What do you guys think?

[@grimreapers]

I imagine your vision would just be black for a couple of seconds and then slowy returned??