Could Pegasus Win the Battle of the Binary Star | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock

Can a single ship of the same class of the Pegasus stand up to and defeat three Cylon Basestars?! I answer that question by facing the ships off against each other in Battlestar Galactica Deadlock.
Please let me know what you're thoughts are in the comments below! Do you think that a Mercury class Battlestar can stand up to three basestars?
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[@WildHorseProductions]

XO: "Cylon ships, staggered line! Shipmaster, they outnumber us, three-to-one!" Commander: "Then it will be an even fight!"

[@boqndimitrov8693]

Pegasus entered the battle with a mechanic on the bridge, instead of a trained commander, and a bunch of unresolved problems in the command structure, a consequence of the mixing of the crews of Galactica and Pegasus. It's a miracle that he survived.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Yeah imagine it Cain was still in command. The battle would have turned out a lot differently ngl. That being said Cain would have likely abandoned the missing raptors and been like “oh well idgaf”.

[@jakeg3733]

@@StantonSpaceGamir She could be completely looney at times but after her disaster at the relay I think she would have just let the Raptors go. Which Garner should have done, because not only was it an explicit order but also common sense. He never should have been in command, nor should Lee. As a general rule people with personality disorders or any kind of complex shouldn't be in command of massive warships with crew numbering in the thousands, defending the last of humanity

[@AwakenedAvocado]

Admiral cain is a terrible leader and has no leadership qualities redeemable no logic or rationality and she also sleeps with lesbian cylons

[@BattlestarZenobia]

@@StantonSpaceGamirshe would have gotten the ship destroyed and lost her entire crew due to her complete incompetence and death wish

[@Revkor]

@@BattlestarZenobia accordign to lore she lost agianst commanders with older battlstars

[@jakeg3733]

It was a production decision that Pegasus be cut. Let's be real, that ship was a beast and probably would have survived to the end. It had onboard fabrication facilities (extensive according to some of the lore) that could probably even be used to build components to repair itself. Unlike Galactica, which carried the scars from it's first battle for the entire series

[@briankriens5645]

Thankfully Galactica did have the benefit of a Celestra class support ship which explains how she made it as long as she did. They never really explained it, but the ship is there none the less. The original BSG had a whole episode that centered around the Celestra even. Glad they brought that ship back for the new version.

[@jakeg3733]

@@briankriens5645 Yeah me too. It's a cool little fleet tender. I have to wonder why the Colonials never went the direction of a lot of other sci-fi fleets with creating more mobile shipyards. Homeworld and Battletech both have ships in this category. It would be well within the capabilities of a civilization that could make something like a Battlestar. They don't need powerful (or any really) sublight drives, just FTL. Daedalos/Ragnar was a hell of an asset

[@briankriens5645]

@@jakeg3733 Part of the Robotech/Macross saga was capturing the Zentradi mobile ship yard. Another epic space opera/saga.

[@jakeg3733]

@@briankriens5645 They're huge assets. Possession of something like that gives someone the ability to manufacture an entire fleet if they have access to resources. As Tigh says, space is pretty barren when it comes to resources to sustain life but it's also rich as far as manufacturing materials

[@AwakenedAvocado]

It's ok because they fix the internal cracks with cylon superglue

[@UGNAvalon]

“Steady as she goes, take us right down the middle. 🤨” “We won’t last long in there… 😥” “We won’t have to. 😏” “OH GOD! *_OH FRA-“_* “THAT THING’S KILLING US!!” “NO AMOUNT OF RESURRECTIONS IS WORTH THIS!!”

[@dylanlewis5113]

Why did you sacrifice your entire air wing?! You could have recalled, which would cause the Raiders to follow the returning squadrons into range of the flak field and gun batteries. I don't get why so many people treat their squadrons like they're expendable.

[@jakeg3733]

Playing like Admiral Cain would play the game

[@spartacusthebringerofrain3007]

This being a just a skirmish mission everything is expandable. In a campaign especially in hard one's with limited resources this would be idiotic to waste them like that. You could lose everything on purpose in a skirmish mission and not hurt anything outside your ability to actually being able to beat hard campaigns if you do it to much

[@andrewnlarsen]

@@spartacusthebringerofrain3007 Actually you mean Anabasis right?

[@ihatepplwhohatedm]

I believe the damaged squadron units would also be repaired over time, so it's possible to bring them back out and fighting again in the same mission so long as the squadron is not totally wiped out

[@RayMKlll]

yeah, if would probably have taken like, at least three or four Cratus Basestars to even bring down Pegasus, rather than the Technorganic ones we got in the actual series. I tried it with six Cratus Basestars which might have been overkill...

[@jonumine6250]

Had the cylons kept using artillery shells on the basestars instead of only missiles, tv series Galactica would've been royally screwed.

[@connorbennett1517]

Yea a bit overkill. A cratus is equivalent to a Jupiter so 3 may be enough to take on a Mercury.

[@briankriens5645]

I love BSG Deadlock, but the ships are not nearly as powerful as what is shown in the show. Look at the Jupiter 2 Galactica shown in Blood and Chrome. That said I find that Battlestars of any kind are far superior to the Cylon ships. The Cratos is the only ship they have that is even close to going toe to toe with especially a Mercury. Flak, as limited in direction as it is, is a massive advantage against an enemy that depends so heavily on missiles. Great video showing how the mechanic should have been in the show as well. 10 modern Basestars vs the Pegasus... that would have been a better threat.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Might do 10 basestars against Pegasus at some point. Good suggestion.

[@briankriens5645]

@@StantonSpaceGamir That would be something to see. The sheer number of raiders alone LOL! But my love of the Mercury class tells me that Pegasus would pull through 😀

[@retrosquadchannel2.050]

This recreation of the battle clearly shows, that captain Lee Adama should never ever leave cockpit of Viper or better yet - forever commissioned to transport Raptor. That assclown managed to destroy Pegasus in battle, where he could win. But no. Damn, now I understand how Dan from Spacedock felt about this battle.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Not just Dan, but 99% of bsg fans as well hate how Pegasus was thrown away like it was disposable.

[@danielhenderson8316]

It's as irrelevant as the size of the headboard in Titanic. No matter what, the Pegasus was going to die, and like most things in BSG, it could have been planned far better than it was done.

[@briankriens5645]

Couldn't agree more. Apollo should have been spaced for how he handled that battle. If nothing else he should have told the crew of the crippled Galactica to hold out or abandon ship while he used the superiority of the Pegasus to vaporize those basestars. Pegasus was a victim of bad writing, sadly.

[@spartacusthebringerofrain3007]

That wasn't lee that was the scfi network and show runners not wanting to pay for the the FX of two different battlestars and having a clearly better ship takeaway from the galactica the name sake of the show but mostly money reasons. Scfi consider the show way to expensive and wouldn't pay for anything but the bare bones until they stopped doing that

[@EmersonAlencarJunior]

We must be reminded that Pegasus was not yet complete and properly manned. The scenes with Admiral Cain on the CIC were more crowded with officers than during the rescue of New Caprica. So it wasn't at peak performance. Also, Cylons tend to latch onto an injured target to finish him off like vultures or sharks. Pegasus had powerful frontal armament capable of shredding a Cylon Basestar in the first salvos, but four were on Galactica, not just the tree. One temporarily retreated after receiving Pegasus' "Welcome Salvo". I think the show's CGI team failed to illustrate just how dire Galactica's situation was and how imperative it was for Pegasus to hold its damage for a while. Having Lee attack only from afar, they would have preferred to destroy Galactica first, an easy dead target in the water, THEN direct their missile launchers and their raiders against the Beast. The worst-case scenario for the Cylon would be to lose two Basestars while blowing the Beast from the skies. But, of course, Galactica had the huge Armor Plot advantage and Pegasus became expendable for some reason. Some said it was because they needed the studio space to recreate more Cylon Basestar interior rooms. However, that wasn't the battle I assumed the Beast would fall. I think the perfect battle would be in the Ionian Nebula, perhaps sacrificing yourself in a blaze of glory while trying to tank six Basestars plus your ensuing waves of Cylon raiders, both normal and heavy ones. That would be epic and make the situation MUCH MORE tense, especially when the remaining enemy fleet starts firing their guns at the civilian fleet. I love BSG: Deadlock, but it barely embodies the Basestar's mighty. First, they have a small payload for their incredible firepower, which means they'd be easy targets for what, six, or seven combat turns (nine if you know what you're doing, the game's AI is really trigger-happy and always suffers from friendly fire). Second, they have few raider squads. They should have the same amount of squads as Cerberus, as they rely on them for their own defenses and don't have bullet weapons. The best (modded) game to play this type of simulation is Homeworld (2), with the Fleet Command Mod installed. When you see two Cylon Basestars coming after you, you'll know you don't have much time to think about it, just fire the flak barrage, launch your vipers and raptors and all the ordinances you have against them, and pray another one doesn't show up at the Dradis. The OP should try it and maybe post some combat footage here.

[@dixievfd55]

My immediate thought was Battle of the Binary Stars from Star Trek: Discovery. Could BSG Pegasus defeat the Klingon fleet? Maybe.

[@bsgtrekfan88]

Maybe - I think to be fair the ships of BSG would need shields. If not - I am pretty sure that it would hold out long but would fail under phaser type weaponry. I mean we are talking about a race that at this point are still using bullets in their planes.

[@jcgamer892]

@@bsgtrekfan88 to be fair the original BSG (show) had lasers and shields but not the reboot sooo take it what you will.

[@jakeg3733]

Completely different level of technology. Tech like we see in BSG is mostly feasible with our current understanding of physics. Star Trek on the other hand not so much. We couldn't even show 90% of that stuff working on paper. At least with BSG we understand the physics. Hell, if you sat down with a guy like Kip Thorne he could probably even make BSG's FTL technology work on paper

[@felixleong61]

Lee Adama: After all this time, the fandom is still roasting me.....

[@Torente32]

It was a dumb part of the show to have the Pegasus be sacrifice since the show is called Galactica. But a better plan would to have both battlestars jumping in separately to surprise and destroy the cylons over New Caprica.

[@whydontyouhandledeez]

It made sense in the moment given Galactica had a full crew while Pegasus was running a skeleton crew that could barely fly her, much less fight effectively. They only needed like four raptors to evacuate everyone, while losing Galactica would have meant losing hundreds of trained personnel.

[@Torente32]

@@whydontyouhandledeez Yeah I get that, but it would have been awesome to see a more thorough tactical plan, using both battlestars instead of using one as a sacrifice and more of a decoy to handle the basestars. Such as using Pegasus to be the one to deploy the raptor and viper wings in atmosphere and once it jumped back to space, Galactica comes in from the rear for a surprise attack.

[@dylanlewis5113]

@@whydontyouhandledeez Finally! Someone else gets it!

[@Cenot4ph]

the show should have made the pegasus be the primary ship to begin with considering its vastly improved capabilities instead of galactica.

[@Torente32]

@@Cenot4ph and call the Mercury-Class ship Galactica and not Pegasus

[@HOTDOG401]

"The old girl broke her back; She'll never jump again."

[@stevensrhester8594]

They would need to develop a unique "Cain Maneuver." Getting precise intel and position, Admiral Cain could "Jump in the middle of them and blast away at close range. fight for 2 minutes and then jump out. Next have a small derelict freighter on auto pilot, re-jump in and the Cylons will be trigger happy and fire as soon as they detect the jump and will severly damage each other. While the Cylons are focused on the fake bait, Cain jumps back in on the outside of the Basestars and finish the job! Now the Cain Maneuver is taught on new earth

[@spartacusthebringerofrain3007]

The mercury class is even more effective than this game allows. Not only can it use flack in all for axis at once it can attack from 3 axis at once and go in between 3 basestars like this. The game won't all you to flak both sides at once leaving you defenseless on one side doing that

[@bjornjoseph]

can we just admit, in a no CNP attack thr cylons would be massacred

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Cylons even admitted it.

[@astronomybrainiac]

I've done battles in Deadlock to test this, 1-2 Mercurys and fill the rest of the fleet with Valkyries. It's honestly hilarious; form a "wall of battle" with overlapping flak fields. The cylons beat themselves bloody trying to break through and fail. Wait for the Baseships to expend all of their ordinance, then launch fighters and hunt them down.

[@bubbasynklayr6965]

Interesting analysis!

[@rpersen]

I enjoyed this, thank you. Great battle.

[@imhotepjasonduncanson6068]

Admiral Cain will approve.

[@fredlandry6170]

I loved the Pegasus!

[@Restitutor_Orbis_214]

The ship was doomed with Lee Adama in command. It could have been a single raider and he would have found a way to get the Pegasus destroyed. This was the same guy who advocated giving up all technology and giving the Cylons the final de facto win over humanity.

[@jakeg3733]

Well, the puppet masters doomed him. Those two decisions, IMO the most illogical, nonsensical the writers ever made were due to production concerns. Budget cut Pegasus out, and the show being cancelled forced the writers to wrap up this grand story arc they had worked out in a very short amount of time. You could have the best movie or series of all time ready to go in your head but eventually Hollywood is going to find a way to ruin it

[@Restitutor_Orbis_214]

@@jakeg3733 I remember how the show really started to slip after the second season. I noticed through rewatching that in order to abide by the series guidelines set up by Ronald D. Moore to get away from technobabble and forced character drama, the show relied on tired plot retreads through numerous episodes. How many episodes did we see once we got past the best ones of the first season that involved the following: 1. Mutiny and/or a Strike 2. Betrayal 3. Megalomania 4. Mass Murder and/or Torture based on by items 1-3. 5. Despair event horizon reached by a character brought on by items 1-4

[@jakeg3733]

@@Restitutor_Orbis_214 So I agree that it would have been best to not close out the story and just leave them searching. I mean if the show is going to be cancelled, which it was. As for the ending... I hated it at first, after I dug into some of the extended lore it started making sense and I actually liked it to a point (hint: it's Interstellar basically, at least in principle). But you shouldn't require viewers to do that, I understand that most people won't and I get it You could tell when the writers were getting boxed in with the recycled tropes, as you pointed out. That said, while I have my issues with some of the episode's plots, I've grown to love _most_ of the show. It was an attempt to explore human nature in a deep way which led to the writers sometimes bashing us over the head with messages about humanity being crude and prone to violence. The Rebel Cylons under Deanna immediately turning on the fleet and taking hostages still irks me a bit. However, while I hated the Gaeta mutiny arc at first I actually like it a lot now because it clearly displays the character and loyalties of almost every individual, and I was getting tired of hearing all the bitching about skinjobs this and that on Demetrius. The enemy of my enemy is... well if not a friend, an ally and the colonials were just acting like fools resisting this. It was nice to see perpetual malcontent and "revolutionary" Zarek finally make his move and get destroyed for it. There are people like him in real life and they scare the hell out of me As for the bar being swung too far... maybe. There were times when it did feel like they went out of the way to make the tech feel very retro, in an unbelievable way. To be an FTL capable civilization that has been spacefaring for (probably) millennia yet still be taking grainy b&w photos and using 1950s radio equipment stretched belief at times. On the other hand, this was supposed to be a civilization that was so terrified of technology that they willingly gave much of it up (takes a lot for humans to do that). Caprica expanded on that where we see that before the FCW they did indeed have very advanced technology. I can appreciate some anachronism too, as in trying to imagine another civilization where things just developed differently from our world. Personally, I believe science has taken a wrong turn in our world (within the first 10-20 years after Einstein published General Relativity, and in the late 1800s for the historian profession) but that's a separate conversation

[@jakeg3733]

@@Restitutor_Orbis_214 What brought me to this show initially, and what BSG has now brought me back to is the Homeworld games. It's like the best of both worlds. The core story of BSG is there, but the civilization(s) they created in that game are very believable as far as technology and culture. They had a real archeologist help write the backstory and lore, and it shows. Very little focus on personas or drama, just a depiction of the struggle of an entire civilization. I hope we someday get a series out of it. I heard someone say, "well it's just a battlestar clone" but it is much more than that. If you haven't played those games I'd really recommend it because you seem like the skeptical, discerning type and you'd probably appreciate them

[@Restitutor_Orbis_214]

@@jakeg3733 I played them and really enjoyed them. Homeworld came in 1999 well before the new BSG. Hopefully whoever said Homeworld was a BSG clone was referring to the original series from 1978. My personal preference is towards classic science fiction that challenges and inspires the human condition. I appreciated the original series for its creativity and the fact that the Colonials truly felt a civilization from another star system. The new series really just felt like our cotemporaneous society projected into space. I know Ronald D. Moore was going that direction and even said he didn't see it as a science fiction show. I truly enjoyed the first season of the new BSG when it came out and most of the second season. They depicted some great struggles and compelling stories. However, by the third season I noticed the tendency for very obvious tropes. After the finale I found the rewatch value for me was completely absent. I can still go back and watch the original series and enjoy it (Not the farce that was Galactica 1980). I believe it had a lot more creative potential. Nothing against you or anyone else if you enjoy the reimagined series more. I respect your opinion and why it is appreciated. I am just stating my perspective on it and the original series. Thanks for reminding me about Homeworld too!

[@dmacbass]

Pegasus, the mighty Beast!!! My favorite sci-fi warship!!!

[@jonumine6250]

Yes the Pegasus can definitely take them all 3 but the damage it would've taken is not worth it. Knowing they have way more basestars and the 12 colonies aren't around anymore to provide mayor repairs, the Pegasus has a way better chance of survival staying out of trouble the quickest.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

This is exactly what happened to galactica during this battle, but even then the show went on another season. If Pegasus even survived it would have been a much better scenario than what happened in the show.

[@bf1701]

Heck, sacrificing every Viper, Raptor, and pilot aboard the ship makes for a pyrrhic victory at best.

[@briankriens5645]

Pegasus can quickly repair damage, and replace lost craft. The pilots and crew on the other hand.

[@danieldeak9141]

Just tactical jump with the basestar to the opposite side of the pegasus, and nuke it before flak could react.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Will try that in a future video thanks!!

[@nerobernardino88]

Hell, jump your three basestars to different angles of the Pegasus and drop all nukes period. They might block one angle with Flak, but two angles are still deadly.

[@kazmark_gl8652]

The AI is really bad with the modern BaseStar. I've the AI throw processing power into its fire control even after it's run out of missiles, or when all of its munitions already only shoot one at a time. BaseStars will also never launch their full fighter compliment at once, dispite it's massive fighter superiority. The AI also doesn't use the tactical jump in a creative manner. Ideally, you set this up in multi-player, but I think the BaseStar's might trounce a Mercury given that most players will be VERY familiar with her.

[@sid2112]

Good video, deserves more views.

[@Valehass]

In the future, if you're going to keep your flak up throughout the fight, position your squadrons on the opposite side of your ship from the flak so their fighters have to fly through your flak to get to your fighters. They will always prioritise your fighters over your capital ships.

[@michaelgimenez4032]

The Cylon ships need a quurk like regenerating ordances or building raiders mid fight otherwise you just flak until they run out of wverything

[@TemplarGamer56]

Regular guns still go through the flak , only ordinance and squadrons get destroyed . So all colons do to counter is just get closer or use virus hacking . Not smart .

[@connorbennett1517]

If the ai was better it wouldn't be much of an issue. The Argos actually has regenerating missiles and the Modern Basestars only choose to hack inconsistently. They also do not make good use of their short range jump ability. Jump behind and above the Mercury and you are taking minimal fire while able to bombard the rear where flak is useless.

[@michaelgimenez4032]

@connorbennett1517 I get that Cylon basestars got the edge on mobility and yet the Colonial fleet with flak alone seems to be able to bypass all their advantages. Just my two cents.

[@zef2dadeff173]

Solid work.

[@magisterrleth3129]

Nah. I think a large contributing factor to the Pegasus' destruction is that in the context of the show, she had been gutted, was running on a skeleton crew, who was out of practice after a year of being idle. Not to mention, flak defenses in the show aren't nearly as effective as they are in-game. The game is supposed to be fun and balanced, in the show, the Cylons nuked fun.

[@darksuperboy]

If you want to do more scenarios Suggest pvp (id be down) you know and get the deployment right before battle starts. Also let a nuke through to simulate the battle damage that caused the Pegasus to be trapped

[@mrosck1]

Pegasus should have survived and been part of the Colony battle. Would have been glorious! I was so unhappy when the Pegasus was destroyed..

[@andrewnlarsen]

The problem with this is that in the game the modern basestars don't have the resupply capabilities of the Argos basestars. Once the modern basestars use up all of their missiles, they become sitting ducks (once you get rid of their raider support).

[@mattwho81]

It was decided in the writers room that Pegasus had to go. Don’t blame Lee that the show isn’t called “Battlestar Pegasus”.

[@MSGT_Johnson]

I am horrified of the fact you didn't recall the nearly dead squadrons

[@AwakenedAvocado]

Admiral.cain approves of their heroic deaths

[@Izzyduude]

On the show, the base stars get destroyed so easily. I guess all offense no defense works for them? If Pegasus had a trained commander it could have fucked shit up regularly but the show chose not to go in that direction. Even New Caprica with the Cylons never would have happened with Pegasus and Galactica orbiting above the settlement but the occupation was a pretty cool storyline.

[@andreichernyshev1]

you should do series

[@ArnoldwMace]

Was Pegasus a different class of battle star ship then Galactica or a rebuilt version Galactica was old school and Pegasus look more updated

[@Collin857]

The way I see it is that the Pegasus, was more of a crotch for the colonials to lean on givin it’s more advanced than the Galactica and would have undermined the whole survival premise if not destroyed

[@juneangel7221]

I used to play BSG online till they took it away from us, but i never heard of this one . Is it still out there? Where can i find it? And is BSG online coming back anytime soon?

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Somebody made a private server and you can still play there. This isn’t BSGO btw, it’s deadlock.

[@Revkor]

deadlock is on steam

[@juneangel7221]

@@Revkor thanks 😊

[@promnightdumpsterbaby9553]

Why not? I've killed 5 baseships with one peggy.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Flak + fighting a ship that uses only missiles makes it possible for the Peggy to stand up to more base ships than should be possible lol.

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

@@StantonSpaceGamir Flak OP please nerf

[@shawncarter5619]

Why would you continually go broadside if your bow guns can take out a Basestar with one shot? The object is to present your minimum aspect ratio to incoming fire, not the broadside of the vessel if it can be avoided. Plus, you are fighting in 3 dimensions, use your z axis to you advantage.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Flak

[@christianresel8051]

Didnt she at least VAPORIZE one of them in the series? Those main guns as seen in new caprica orbit ONESHOT a basestar or at least crippling it. And 2 Basestars v a FULL armed Mercury? Yep, not a fair battle for the toasters realy. That out the way.... since when does Deadlock have mod support? There where no Mercury's in it as far as i know (as their post first war warships build to basicaly ANNIHILATE anything as their bigger, stronger armored, heavier armed than the older COLUMBIA class like the Galactica (ofc. not the Columbia's BUILD version with 64 main gun batteries and at the very least 3x the AAA) With mods fixing some major stuff it could be worth revisiting it for me at least. Last i heard is that the license holders put slytherine in chains not wanting to have this game be moddable (thats also why the HW mod was still supperior in every way posible despite it being abandoned and old)

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Yep the main guns do obliterate basestars in a salvo. Deadlock also doesn’t have mod support. The second cylon war era ships are from a DLC.

[@Mobius_118]

One of the final DLCs for Deadlock (the Modern Ships Pack) added the Mercury, Valkyrie, Viper Mk VII, Modern Cylon Basestar, Guardian Basestar (from Razor), and the Modern Raider.

[@briankriens5645]

Modern ship pack. No mods.

[@MrMaul80]

This is what happens when you rely on only missiles

[@filippe999]

so what we learned today is that a solid flak wall is better than any shield could be

[@chrissyoutubechannel8679]

How do you get this game I have it on sins of solar empire looks good BSG deadlock

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

It’s on steam, Xbox, PlayStation, and switch. You can find it on any of those stores. The ships used here are from the modern ships DLC pack, which will cost you a little bit more.

[@bigwhopper6501]

I dont even launch vipers until atleast half of the enemy raiders are destroyed by flak

[@kazmark_gl8652]

I think in your strategy you failed to consider that your Point defense guns and Flak systems are mutually exclusive because the PD guns are what fires the Flak. your ship was only using its Battlestar Artillery against the Raiders, which isnt very effective.

[@madjukesmeg]

But could she take those basestars down in time to save Galactica? Food for thought

[@connorbennett1517]

Wrong battle. And New Caprica had 4 basestars.

[@UnicornGamingRX03]

Peggy is one tough ship, worth being returned as a Kansen.

[@captwaffle1361]

save the vipers and raptors until the first wave of fighters gets cleaned up then deploy them to harass the basestars

[@CrazyNights1015]

Aren't most of the Battlestar's guns on the dorsal side? If so, why do you keep trying to put the ship above the cylons?

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Most of the guns are at the bow, and are on the underside (this is how deadlock designed its take on the mercury). Putting them above the basestars and dead ahead gives me an optimum firing angle and let’s the big guns quickly tear apart the enemy.

[@brettglover135]

@@StantonSpaceGamir so quick question, would using tactics from other franchise's work in Battlestar Galactica deadlock? say the Marg Sabl and the Ackbar slash from Star Wars?

[@darthgamer2014]

Let's be honest the Cylons never expected anyone to survive their nuclear holocaust. They didn't expect even a single civilian to survive nevermind two fully armed Battlestars.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

Actually not quite. In the episode “The Plan”, Caprica 6 is informed upon resurrection that the attack succeeded beyond their wildest projections. The Cylons DID expect for some colonials today survive the immediate attack.

[@darthgamer2014]

@@StantonSpaceGamir Well I had only seen clips of the show so I didn't know they did expect it. Meaning that the Cylon doctrine is build on arrogance.

[@briankriens5645]

To be fair Galactica was not fully armed. She had been stripped of most of her outer armor, turrets, and the starboard hanger was converted into a museum and gift store LOL. Pegasus on the other hand 😃

[@jakeg3733]

Cavil himself said as much in The Plan. Brilliant plan but completely inflexible thanks to Cylon arrogance

[@therockontheshelf]

why cant we have a star wars game like this..

[@Revkor]

we did. Empire at War

[@therockontheshelf]

@@Revkor Empire at War even with the great mods for it is still extremely old though. And the space battles are very limited by bad pathing and not nearly as tactical as a star wars version of this would be

[@Revkor]

@@therockontheshelf but I see that its where the devs of deadlock got inspiration is from

[@therockontheshelf]

@@Revkor Meh, would say its far more similar to battlefleet gothic armada tbh

[@Nick871203]

wtf is with the end turn? this is how the battles are done? constant pausing to issue new orders an end turn?

[@wobbledu]

I dont know. somehow this game is missing something. Although im a BSG fan it doesnt apeal to me. Should be more liek the Nexus BSG mod

[@Smenkhaare]

I played it for three hours and could not get into it. What is the Nexus Mod?

[@wobbledu]

@@Smenkhaare a mod for nexus jupiter incident. A very oldgame. Its super cool but doestn realky have gameplay

[@JohnSelth]

This game is very simple to win each time. Flak is so broken that it negates all incoming damage. You just sit and wait for the cylons to run out of missiles then close range.

[@followerofjulian1652]

Why didn't Pegasus use its phasing cloaking device? Oh, that's right -- wrong franchise! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JasonAguirre]

That was...embarrassing.

[@martinostermann8676]

Sperrmüll.

[@BattlestarDamocles]

Bad piece of writing this was. Pegasus was so much more capable than Galactica and should never have been sacrificed like she was.

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

This videos about when garner jumped Pegasus to find missing pilots and got ambushed. It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the Battle of New Caprica.

[@BattlestarDamocles]

@@StantonSpaceGamir Fair enough. But I stand by what I said.

[@AwakenedAvocado]

Admiral cain would sacrifice the pegasus ,the Galactica and the entire fleet for a bag of cheetos.

[@BattlestarZenobia]

No, Pegasus is a great ship for offence but Galactica was far superior for defensive purposes which is what they needed, not an offensive beast but a defensive screen which frankly Galactica was far better at so yes sacrificing Pegasus for Galactica was in my opinion the best trade since the Pegasus was just not built for the defensive role but an offensive one

[@BattlestarZenobia]

@@AwakenedAvocadoyep she was an incompetent war criminal