Could Russian Su-35, S-400 & Pantsir Defend Kerch Bridge From USN Tomahawks? (WarGames 55) | DCS

[@grimreapers]

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[@UrosTosicGradjevinac]

Please @grim reapers how to add S400 and Pantsir? It's not included in Digital SAMs mod...

[@hopmalloy4364]

pppp

[@mot13ymotley55]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to bribe the Russians to put the UK highways maintenence peeps in charge of the bridge? It would also render the bridge inoperable way longer than just destroying it

[@the_seg_faulter]

Hammersmith Bridge

[@pl7868]

i already put ten quid they would do that by the third :) and twenty they would try to sell it by the fourth :) i gonna be rich with a girlfriend like kim k. an have to get my mum to help push her bum into the car for chips , or is it out of it after humm ?

[@larrymoran_THE_CODGER]

May 31, 2022 - You and your fellow travelers like the rest of us, even here in the U.S. Have been inconvenienced by bridge and road repairs. However, I think it's pretty easy to take shots at people that have to work in some of the worst out of doors weather, and who are at risk of injury because of inept drivers. "Spare a thought for the working bloke."😊

[@ochat2010]

May 31, 2022 it’s no better over here brother. Just get one of our politicians to- oh wait…

[@LondonSteveLee]

I like your thinking.

[@strambino1]

The new block V tomohawk has radar absorbent material coating and it’s capable of attacking ships as well as ground targets. It’s pretty cool because antiship tomohawks haven’t been in use since the 1990s.

[@grimreapers]

Ah, that makes sense then.

[@nikolanojic6861]

They been used on Belgrade in 1999 and couple of them were shotdown daily

[@Mystical922]

@@grimreapers can you do missile cruisers vs carrier groups

[@walterrichards4362]

First guys, please replace your Lazer type dot indicator with a larger arrowhead when pointing out the various defensive positions and missile maximum range circles. The tiny indicator is nearly invisible and by the time I find it you move it to another point and it's just gone! Second, with all the defensive positions pretty well known if they were taken out before the attack on the bridge the chances of successfully destroying one or more sections would increase greatly. Even half of the missile battery's destroyed would up the odds in favor of success greatly. Then there is the question of four well armed fighters mixing in among the tomahawks while those sea and shore based defenses were presumably firing everything they had. How do you avoid those threats while concentrating on getting into range and positions for gun action? Otherwise, GOOD SHOW!

[@samdwich5425]

No military is going to shot 64 missiles, in a straight line, at a target, so that the defenses can shot at them one at a time like clay pigeons. The missiles would be routed to hit the target from multiple angles and nearly at the same time so that the defenses would be overwhelmed.

[@jayjayquest4958]

True and they acknowledged that @ 4:33 when one of the guys refers to the "doctrine would be a to have them all do a T.O.T" (all arrive at a specific Time On Target). Still a very cool vid, well done lads!

[@hudhinton1880]

If NATO did this (which it won't) it would come from stealth aircraft or submarines.

[@H1Guard]

The Navy would target each tanker in the bridge individually, and program unique flight paths. That would be more important for scattering the defenses than just TOT.

[@DougthebearRichards]

With follow up SAMs to take out interceptors.

[@lenn55]

In real life a lot of time goes in to planning the routes the TLAMs will take to avoid detection. Using terrain, ect makes them much harder to detect. They also come at the target from multiple angles. All the times the TLAMs have been used in combat only a very small minority of them have ever been shot down. More have probably failed from technical problems than being shot down.

[@randlebrowne2048]

Also, the attack would have most likely been made during darkness/low light conditions.

[@rayshewmaker34]

S300 & S400's performed poorly in Syria. Actually shot friendlies. And Terrible at Defending against Surface Skinning Attacks.

[@barriofiesta5675]

They are wave skimming , 6 feet above the water. I'm retired US military

[@michaelandrewcart1689]

Apparently a Lada and C4 does the job.

[@haroldbenton979]

The USN for a target that heavily defended the USN would also be sending in at least 1 if not 2 of the Modified Ohio SSGN's each with 168 TLAM's in the magazines. There is no way we would let anything survive that is that important.

[@chriswilliams7182]

The fox 4 attacks remind me of the tactic that the raf supposedly used with the v1 rockets. match speed, pull alongside, wing under the wing of the rocket, and tip it :D

[@grimreapers]

Absolutely.

[@dexlab7539]

WOW - didn’t know they did that - Very cool!

[@hawkeye2816]

In addition to the complaints listed below, unless the planes are already in the air they aren't getting into the fight in time to do much. Even if you have the electronics permanently spooled up on the ramp, which would cost an incredible amount of diesel for the generators, you can't keep the pilots in the planes and can't keep the engines running. It would still take a few minutes from the time the missiles are detected to the time the planes are off the ground. Even at subsonic speeds, if it takes you 5 minutes to get the planes off the ground the missiles will have covered half the 100-mile distance simulated here. Hell, even if the planes are in the air they'd have to be within a few minutes flight time of the incoming missiles.

[@Echowhiskeyone]

TOT, from many directions using waypoints. As was said early in the vid. Most likely scenario would be Tomahawk strike followed by SEAD and F-35 strike.

[@billdevitt4324]

Great job, yet again, Cap! ☺ The one comment I would make, the US would probably also have Radar Jamming Aircraft deployed, as well. After all, if one is launching missles in, one is already at a state of war. 😉 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 💞 🇨🇦 🤗😊 Slava Heroyam! ☺

[@yuuzyerbrejn9603]

Nice! Thanks for doing that Cap, it actually went about as expected. Not sure the SU's would have been that effective but I 'spect the S-400 would have been more effective irl as it would have had AWACs feeding info. I wonder if the Tommy's can do their thing without the pop up at the end and if that would matter at all. It seemed they got more vulnerable then. Cheers!

[@rogerpennel1798]

A combination of the Swedish SEAD/decoy system and Tomahawks would be pretty unstoppable.

[@charlesbates9563]

As an old air defense hand I find the placement of your S-400 systems frankly inexplicable. I also have to wonder why there aren't any short-range air-defense systems at the bridge itself.

[@74dthereapers94]

He’s doing that on purpose

[@RogunK]

No, they would not all go in the same line. They would all be taking different routes avoiding shiping lanes and crossing the coast in area's farthest between any radar sites. Also, different altitudes so you aren't looking for the same alt for them all.

[@avs7210]

Смотрел с переводчиком , обожаю твой канал , сам играю в DCS , в России нет такого контента 😏

[@billdevitt4324]

Welcome & Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦 ☺ PS: DCS is a Russian Simulator 😉 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 💞 🇨🇦 🤗😊

[@useryggfdcc]

@@billdevitt4324 Fuck Ukraine with love from Canada

[@iyhan1987]

Is Crimean S400 sight placed behind the mountains making it half blind on purpose? Is it really there in IRL or it is just to give attackers a lillte bit more chances?

[@davidconnellan6875]

I think that there is some nerfing of the Russian forces going on

[@michaeldendulk9225]

Quite clearly explained in the vid. Russian AWACS isn’t properly linked to the S-400 system in game, giving the Tomahawks a handicap, but the placement of the batteries is somewhat realistic, though IRL the batteries are more spread out (explained in a previous vid).

[@iyhan1987]

@@michaeldendulk9225 thanks :)

[@iyhan1987]

@@davidconnellan6875 lets call that balancing :) Cause there are also Tors missing, they can really affect the results imho

[@AyOuB.God-soldier]

Ithink the s400 sight placed in different places in Ukraine

[@mandoreforger6999]

How lucky would you need to be to have 4xSU-35s with 12 AA missiles each on ready alert ready to roll? Very lucky…

[@ГеоргийМурзич]

There are planes on alert during war time, you know. Usually more that just 4 for such a huge area.

[@mandoreforger6999]

@@ГеоргийМурзич not with that loadout. 12 AA missiles is insane for a ready alert aircraft. A typical ready alert loadout would be 4-6 missiles. You want endurance and maneuverability. If you expect an air threat you also want to climb fast. The extra weight reduces climb rate, maneuverability and endurance.

[@ГеоргийМурзич]

@@mandoreforger6999 do you really need 12 missiles on each of those aircraft? I don't think so

[@charlietheunicorn5383]

My takeaway from the video, we need more videos of pilots ejecting out of airplanes onto targets (such as a helipad or bridge) of a vessel. Closest to the pin wins?

[@grimreapers]

agreed

[@Bovafett]

Something that you could consider; a coordinated attack that includes terrain masking TLAMs (not sure if this is modeled in DCS), Ukraine times a launch of aerial decoys to arrive just before the TLAMs to hopefully reduce S400 missiles, possible coordination of strike on navy units as observed by global hawk (I don't believe modeled either) with Harpoon or Neptune missiles, and I'm not sure about any electronic jamming capability of Ukraine, but that could be considered as well to saturate the area with interference and jam the radars until everything gets very close.

[@johnhaller5851]

The way to use radar jamming is to tie up the crews, as they probably get dispatched on jamming. That will consume engine hours, who knows how many spare engineers they have for those jets, let alone tires. If they get tired of responding to jamming, then it's time for missiles away. Nighttime attack would also prevent most of the visual gun shoot downs.

[@vanguard9067]

Could/would the Russians install AK-630M2 CIWS protecting the bridge? It seemed to do pretty well destroying other sea-skimming missiles in previous GR scenarios. BTW, Tomahawks do not fly along a single vector. They can/will take maneuvering paths to a target, with either terrain-following radar or precision GPS. With their range they could fly around both sides of the Crimean Peninsula.

[@grimreapers]

Those Frigates has AK-630M

[@vanguard9067]

@@grimreapers I was thinking installation on/immediately adjacent to the bridge too. More ships would achieve the same result. Not that I went them to.

[@uapnz0698]

That last bridge model shot back!

[@superflyguy4488]

Just use a submarine and a handful of frogmen. Are remote controlled dolphins modelled?

[@superflyguy4488]

@@mattgrant9479 Badda Bing, Badda Boom

[@LeoH3L1]

Got a suggestion for a vid.... Investigate stealth vs active seeker capabilities, we can all see how stealth fighters like the F-22 work WRT the radars in fighters, but how realistic is their stealth vs the much smaller and less powerful radars in the front of the active seeker missiles, it would stand to reason that if for example you can only see an F-22 at say 5 miles on radar, that an active seeker should not be able to see it until much much closer considering seeker size and power output. IRL I suspect that ARH missiles will actually be fairly useless given the above vs a LO fighter, since they would have to be in just the right bit of sky to have them in their detection cone, and by the time they're that close they'd probably have to pull massive g to turn onto an intercept. Not sure how to test this, but it would be interesting if a way to test it could be found.

[@92HazelMocha]

Depends very heavily on the specific missile, some fox 3's have AESA radars, some PESA and some even mechanical. Some have larger and or more powerful radars some have smaller and or weaker radars. Without having the exact specifics from the manufacturer something like that isn't really testable.

[@LeoH3L1]

@@92HazelMocha Yeah there will be some variation, but there's no way that any of those radars are going to be outputting more power than their launch platform did, and it would be very likely IMO that the quality of the signals processing in the aircrafts radar will be much higher than what ever's implemented in the radar fitted to a missile since that's not intended to be ever used again...

[@ashtiboy]

well if most air to air missiles or surface to air missiles and their luach and sensor platform vehicles had a serres tracking arrays that were upgraded to use high resolution visible light 3D TV imaging camras combined with LIDAR sersors that use image recognition algorithm tracking and seeking guidance systems that use both visible light and lasers to bypass modrand stealth aircraft radar stealth mesures then the F-35 and most of the cernet steath arcraft will start haeving a bad time. i'm not surprised if mitlary forces just starting to make use of air to air missle or surface to air mislles or large scale sensor tracking systems that use those 3d imaging and lidar systems to start conerting those radar stealth aircraft very soon! you know it's going to happen sooner or later with the usa popdlery being first to make use of them after their done delpaoling working version in area 51 in the next few years.

[@92HazelMocha]

@@LeoH3L1 I mean that's true, but radar becomes exponentially more powerful the closer it is to what its trying to detect (specifically to the 4th power) so even if you can't pick up an aircraft until 10 miles, the missile' INS will send it on an intercept course until it is close enough to pick it up, and that range of the missile's detection could be anywhere from within a mile to most of the distance of the launching aircraft. It gets further complicated when you factor in that some missiles like Meteor have a two way data link so some processing could be done by the launch platform for the missiles own radar. There's a massive variation in missile programming and design so while we throw them into broad categories like fox 1 and fox 2, how the missile is actually guided can be very very different. A good example is the aim7 vs the R27R; because of the way the R27R is designed it is incapable of ever being lofted (and still hitting a target) unlike the Aim7 whose later variations were programmed to do so.

[@raa729]

Would love to see how NSM and JSM perform once modelled

[@gooner72]

A very interesting video, Reapers..... if you think about WW2 RAF Spitfire and Hurricane pilots, when they ran out of ammunition, they actually destroyed V1 rockets by making physical contact with the early cruise missiles and tipping their wings to knock them off course. Not bad, eh??? Rule Britannia!!🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌

[@grimreapers]

Brave guys

[@bradyboy7092]

I’d love to see you do a video with an modern Iowa class escorted by two Arleigh Burke class destroyer‘s attack the bridge

[@uapnz0698]

They're an amazing warship. I'd love to see New Jersey one day.

[@Top-Jimmy]

@11:34 You can hear someone pullin a bong!! Thats a purple heart right there Cap! 🤣

[@BCSchmerker]

+GrimReapersAtomic *In a real defensive mission, the Fighting squadrons with the Sukhois would have been briefed on the S-400 engagement zones,* called out the surviving enemy to the SAM batteries on break-off. Chasing down the BGM-109's after missile expenditure in (for instance) Blue Knight 265, I'd have pulled into almost the pure vertical at the island ridge to notch the 91N6E2 radar while the _Pantsir-SM_ batteries concentrate on the remaining 109's - the Anti-Air Defence Corps' own goal splashing a USAF / Lockheed California U-2C over the Kamchatka (they lost a MiG-19P to a V-750VN direct hit) is not lost on me.

[@yeoldesaltydog7415]

Im enjoying your videos more often than not, you all discover what is considered Classified by doing these simulations and DCS Im sure can only go by "Known" knowledge. Interesting none the less~ BZ guys :)

[@dexlab7539]

Cool video - Didn’t know planes could kill Tomahawks so easily

[@b.griffin317]

Face: the ultimate weapon.

[@robertgreen94]

The USNwould not have all the missiles follow the same path, some would come across the sea, some would come across land and attack the bridge from different directions. The land would start earlier so they all appear at the same time. I believe this was done in DS in the 90's

[@panpiper]

Meanwhile an Ohio Class Guided Missile Submarine has up to 154 Tomahawk missiles, and that's just ONE!

[@MostLikelyMortal]

If only the game supported subs

[@grimreapers]

Wow! big sub.

[@panpiper]

@BroncoBob Well than they'll fly them over Greece and Bulgaria.

[@barriofiesta5675]

During First Iraq war,they used unarmed drones such as BQM 74 to have the enemy radar ping on them. Next comes radar homing missiles . Then comes the Tomahawks.

[@Maeyanie]

27:05: Your jet would probably be a write-off too, with all those over-G warnings. Not sure if the rest of the boys did as poorly, but that could easily be $340m of destroyed Su-35s. Still worth it strategically, though.

[@erikerice9068]

That was awesome, I never saw you unload so many missiles at one time.

[@unclesmrgol]

Now do killing fuel laden trains, which is how the bridge was actually destroyed.

[@plushiie_]

Would the outcome be more efficient with a bomber launcing decoys just ahead of the tomahawks?

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

Plus MQ-9 reapers among the decoys and tomahawks, with AIM-9Xs on the MQ-9 hardpoints for the SU-35s, HARM missiles for the S-400 radar, and Brimstone IIs for the Pantsir... We're getting there. Now we just have to put everything we've learned together, and exploit the weaknesses of the system with coordinated actions by several different complimentary strike, decoy, jammer and air to air capabilities, versus the SU-35, the S-400 and the Pantsir. We have now identified the right systems and means for accomplishing this, so at this point, we just need to combine and coordinate the right combinations of systems and in the right order.

[@yujinhikita5611]

@@Gabriel_McMillan get back to work Corporal

[@thenley0]

Was thinking the same thing. Would be great to mix the tomahawks with the last attempt

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@yujinhikita5611 I was a more senior NCO than that, Yujin, and that was 15 years ago. If I were called up to fight China, I would not serve at a rank lower than Major, and I am not joking, nor is it up for debate. You can arrest me for desertion, or you can put in my a position where I can do what I do best, which is plan, organize, envision, coordinate, adapt and overcome, through superior strategy.

[@yujinhikita5611]

@@Gabriel_McMillan well I really just said the first rank which came to mind. Anyway, what did I say, back to work.

[@bibleortraditions]

I have the video paused @4:15 Instead of launching the Tomahawks through the intersection of both S400 sites, the ships, AWACS, and ground based jets, wouldn't it be better to outflank the radar nets and overwhelm the target asymetrically? I've seen many ducks fly between two hunters, and it never bodes well for the duck. Instead of a due north attack, how about sending the Tomahawks due east right over the Crimean S400 site? They can skim over the water than pop-up on the SAM site. They can destroy the S400 and then proceed to the bridge. How well would the simulation do without SU-35 protection?

[@ambientfish1369]

Tomahawks would have multiple way points set and TOT for sure.

[@grimreapers]

Agree but not poss in game.

[@Castragroup]

Another great presentation. Very interesting. Thank you

[@shmevan_]

I think reality would be more like a combination of the last 2 videos, Tomahawks and F35s in a ToT attack. Defenses get overwhelmed by Tomahawks and Fat Amy comes in to finish the job, but I'm just a layman so take that for what it's worth.

[@grimreapers]

Roger

[@boeing-lt4el]

Cap may I suggest for more realism, to start from cold and dark on the scramble (perhaps even wait 60 seconds for getting to the jet)?

[@grimreapers]

Fair point.

[@ataxpayer723]

The USAF would also be involved to deliver air launched missiles from various air assets, from multiple locations.

[@gazfirst]

Great video guys. Being new to your channel so please excuse me if you guys have already done this but thought it would be great to watch as many grim reapers on at the same time, all in the same types of aircraft and all V's all. Last man or women standing wins Ace pilot 🙌

[@grimreapers]

I don't think we've tried this yet Gaz, thanks!

[@samanazimi5087]

Remember that winwing technology is your ultimate hardware solution :) 167

[@grimreapers]

agreed

[@kaysondaley5715]

You kind of needed to set up the destroyer from different positions to Spread them out and set the tomahawks to map of the earth flying.

[@kaysondaley5715]

Or set the ships to move and fire

[@LondonSteveLee]

This is why you need RADAR guided naval guns - like the project stupidly cancelled on the British Type 45 destroyers - cheap replenishable at sea weapons that will engage subsonic missiles and drones.

[@vanguard9067]

Radar targeting for the guns or radar-guided munitions?

[@LondonSteveLee]

@@vanguard9067 Both, but primarily the former - which was the key project which was stupidly cancelled in 2010.

[@vanguard9067]

@@LondonSteveLee Didn’t naval guns as far back as WW II use radar for targeting shells? Also Phalanx is radar targeted, are you saying that technology should be expanded to naval guns too? Please provide the project name so I can learn more. Thanks a bunch. Take care.

[@LondonSteveLee]

@@vanguard9067 It was known as the "RADAR guided gun" project - SDR2010 cancelled it - it was intended to slave Type 45's 4.5 inch gun to the SAMPSON RADAR to enable pinpoint land barrage and to predictively shoot down anything flying in a straight line without wasting missiles. More salt into the wounds was the company who were assigned to this project who developed the targeting computer for Challenger and Challenger II were was sold to the Eurotank consortium just two years ago. This and the loss of ASM with no replacements and the late delivery of Sea Ceptor (won't be fitted for another 5 years) leaves the Type 45s desperately vulnerable to modern threats. We've clearly learned nothing from the Falklands conflict.

[@vanguard9067]

@@LondonSteveLee thank you very much. I agree the reliance on expensive missiles is not as cost-effective and not always mission-effective as naval bombardment. I think the Type 45’s are quite impressive and would like to see them have other options for defense. I could say the same for Arleigh Burkes. I do not know if UK citizens would agree, but I am happy to see the country expand their capabilities to project power. Tremendous respect to the most important US ally. And always incalculable appreciation of UK resistance during WW II, preventing defeat and global conquest by the Axis forces. Thanks again for the education.

[@shortbusbillsfan8609]

Not very the Tlams would have been sent in groups and would have come in from different directions. They would have been launched at different times and they would have been sent over land not just straight over the open ocean. You should do it again with a multifaceted attack coming from several different directions all coming in the same time Like a proper naval strike

[@ojaspatki772]

Would like a redone one after they update the S400 to shoot with data from the AWACS! Enjoyed this video.

[@mandoreforger6999]

Also, does anyone really believe that a stealth low RCS version of the Tomahawk does not exist?

[@jeffreyhill1589]

Shit TLAM is exceptionally hard to detect let alone JASSM. There is no way the US wouldn't vomit 120 TLAM as well as many more regular Tom's at a target as important as that bridge

[@mandoreforger6999]

@Craig Newcomb yes, but JASSM is not a Tomahawk. Essentially it would be a modified TLAM planform missile body with stealth RAM coating. I would bet such a variant has been sitting in VLS tubes for a decade or more as a first wave weapon against a ‘near peer’ foe like China or Russia.

[@bibleortraditions]

Welcome, Valued Producers. OK. We want the Crimean bridge destroyed. Rapid Dragon air-launched palletized munitions concept enables a C17 Globemaster to carry 32 stealth 2,000-pound Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile Extended Range (JASSM-ER), which would receive targeting data from a beyond-line-of-sight command-and control node via an aircraft battle management system incorporated into the pallet. The range of these missiles is 620 miles (1,000km). Thus, three C17s will put forth 96 stealth ER cruise missiles with 5 of 6 appropriately armed F22 Raptors and F35 fighters as follow-up attackers. The fate of the civilized world lays heavily upon your shoulders. Can you save Crimea, Ukraine, and the civilized world from foreign aggression? The gauntlet has been thrown down.

[@grimreapers]

Hardcore

[@bibleortraditions]

@@grimreapers LOL. Super power applied with zero USA residual presence. Crimea bridge must fall if Ukraine is to win.

[@jayleach5730]

Where did you find the SA-22 / Pantsir??

[@grimreapers]

Private mod currently.

[@silicon212]

well it seems that the Kerch bridge is damaged in real life!

[@marioadiez]

Sir; could you please simulate a train loaded with dinamite? Thank you!

[@cadenkellner3227]

It would work if the tomohawks we're launched to the target on multiple angles on a tot attack coupled with talds and harms as well as some reapers with hellfires to finish the job and take out the sams while at it

[@theymusthatetesla3186]

Well done, Lads!

[@zhaloofficial2686]

I'm loving these s-400 vids

[@shoobidyboop8634]

Homelander: "Hold my beer."

[@DougthebearRichards]

If the USN was going to launch a large number of Tomahawks - would not the USN also launch a number of SM-2 missiles as 'escorts' to take out the interceptor aircraft?

[@Shadow-1949]

What happens if you stumble across a valid way to knock out target ? Do you think your demos have value ?

[@grimreapers]

I don;t suppose we'll ever know.

[@luke5g230]

Really great series thanks you all and amazing flying for you all too

[@sabres555555]

Thanks!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Don!

[@Alphasig336]

They would spread out to make them less visible to AD all together, and impossible for jets to line up against. 160 feet is double overseas altitude needed. Giving Russian AD more advantage. Cruise missiles would also target AA and Naval ships.

[@BlueArsedGibbon]

19:41 Jinx, you owe me a coke. xD

[@stewartjmurray]

If this ever happened it would be a B2 with a GBU- 57 massive air ordnance penetrator. S-300/400 wouldn’t see it and that would do the job on the bridge.

[@stephenfowler5699]

The tomahawks can be programmed to not use the terminal popup manuever which would be better when attacking a stationary target.

[@davidconnellan6875]

So the lesson from all this is, to destroy this one bridge you havd to start WW3

[@iyhan1987]

The pointless WW3, because there is already a ground bridge between Crimea and the Donbas region, that's why the city of Mariupol was so important btw, so now the damaging of the bridge will cause mostly reputational losses

[@raa729]

Wake up it already started. WW2 wasn’t all at once in 1939-1940, it as Britain taking it on its chin for all humankind. Ukraine is a wee Britain now. History rhymes a lot

[@davidconnellan6875]

@@iyhan1987 I was making a joke

[@davidconnellan6875]

@@raa729 lol thanks for the history lesson. As completely wrong as it is and you're comparisons between Britian and Ukraine are absolutely disengenuous. Anyway I was making a Joke f.f.s.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

Next Video: Could the United States destroy the Chinese Port of Fuzhou in Fujian after a Chinese attempt to invade Taiwan? Could the United States repel a combined Chinese air-sea battle campaign to establish a beachhead in Taiwan, and to set up an S-400 on the beaches of Taoyuan City, just outside Taipei and a major port and airport, in one of the more likely areas for a Chinese amphibious landing. Many analysts believe that the Chinese, at least initially, will primarily rely on airborne and air assault operations, "vertical envelopment", initially, rather than leading with an amphibious invasion. They will try to secure the landing areas with paratroopers before they bring in the heavy equipment. So you would also want to include as many transport aircraft as possible on the Chinese side, to simulate paratroopers. So initially there would be the Chinese SEAD operation, which US forces will either be too far away from to respond to initially, or else those US forces will be so close that they will be in danger of Chinese anti-ship missile swarms. So, more than like, the scenario would involve a much diminished Taiwanese air defense capability, along with a much diminished Chinese long-range strike capability, by the time the US carriers and allied ships and air power are able to safely get close enough to Taiwan to establish air superiority, engage any Chinese ships with long-range search radars and Chinese AWACS, and ideally also strafe any beaches or areas the Chinese have been able to land forces in with cluster bombs and A-10s' 30mm HE autocannons. Also, regarding the likely nature of such a war, I would offer the following quote from a Mr. Goldstein at the US Naval Warfare College: ""I don't agree that all we'd have to do is sink 300 ships,” he said. “Chinese war planners would expect to lose a thousand ships. They would put 10,000 boats, ferries, barges and fishing craft into the water, with thousands of decoys, far more than there would be LRASMs or submarines to sink them.” That quote was the conclusion of an article titled, "The Scary War Game Over Taiwan That the U.S. Loses to China Again and Again", by Richard Bernstein, published in The National Interest and Real Clear Investigations in August 2020. So, one might need 10,000 relatively smaller, longer range munitions, and you might need to prohibit all small boat traffic in the Straits, for the duration of the war, and to engage any and all boats within 100 miles of Taiwan's China-facing shores. Of course, I know that firing 10,000 missiles at 10,000 small boats could likely fry the server, but still you could do this on a smaller scale, engaging some small boats, paratrooper transports, AWACS, shipborne radars, and enemy combat aircraft, while also strafing the beaches wherever they make landings, and strafing/bombing, sending drones after any Chinese paratroopers in the mountains who may have made landfall. There will also likely be a great deal of Chinese helicopters attempting air assault invasions. Even so, there are 20 Million Taiwanese on Taiwan, and 75% of them say they are prepared to take up arms against China in defense of Taiwanese independence, so I feel that it is our duty to ensure they will win their independence, if the Chinese make them fight for it. Again, you will want to lead the attack with ISR assets, decoys, jammers and unmanned systems like the MQ-9, and then back these up with F-22 and F-35s. The F-22 and F-35 should have very different RCS's. The best estimates I've seen are 0.005 meters^2 for the F-35 and 0.0001 M^2, which would mean that the F-35 RCS is 50 times larger than the F-22. Compare this with the F-16C, even with a new coating of HaveGlass RAM, which is still 1.2 M^2, which is 240 times as large as the F-35, and 12,000 times as large as the RCS of the F-22. So those mods likely need to be adjusted, because it is a well understand fact that F-22 stealth is much better than that of the F-35, even if the specifics are technically classified. Most seem to agree the above values are roughly what we might expect, at least when the aircraft are observed from optimal angles. The effect is that the S-400 would likely be able to see the F-35 from far away, 90km or so, if not used alongside powerful jammers, while the F-22 could come within 30km without being detected without using any additional countermeasures or jammers. The mods should correct for this, if we are going to accurately simulate combat with Chinese forces. Also, you should probably assume that the Russians would overestimate Chinese capabilities even more than they will Russia's own capabilities.

[@grimreapers]

I'm not allowed to touch the China mainland. Off limits to youtube.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@grimreapers Are you serious? That's outrageous. Perhaps that policy will change after the real war begins. I increasingly believe that someone in China is absolutely thrilled with the idea of a war breaking out between Russia, Europe and the US. After such a war, China becomes the undisputed seat of a world empire, or at least a Eurasian empire. And then there's all that money that Chinese intel's head of foreign recruitment gave to our Commander in Chief, and no one in the CIA apparently even noticed... Rather ominous, really. Perhaps they will wake up to the real danger before it is too late, unless they'd like to find themselves in an interrogation facility a mile underneath the Gobi desert, when we lose the war. I just hope they realize that that is where this road is leading, while we still have time to turn around.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@grimreapers I didn't even receive a notification that you had made this comment. I just happened to be looking at another notification, and then I noticed that you had replied, I look back at my notifications, and sure enough, they apparently forgot to mention you'd replied to me directly. I hope Musk buys Google too.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@grimreapers One could, in theory, create a map that had the same geography as Taiwan, Fujian, and the nearby Japanese islands, but call it something different, like the island of Scylla and the Kung Pao Mao Oligarch's Republic, for example...

[@TheStuntman81]

Nice! But when is the next carrier command video coming out?

[@grimreapers]

Fri or Sat this week.

[@TheStuntman81]

@@grimreapers much obliged.

[@simonsmotocat2774]

Can you publish the link for Superflanker (Su-35) mod? The old link is broken.

[@grimreapers]

They are updating it, new version will be out soon.

[@patrickkerner1471]

NO! Yet what would the payback be?

[@lowtdave]

25:33 I was moving my phone trying to aim at the damn missile. Lol.

[@jeremyunderwood302]

You lads just know your gonna have to a top gun canyon run in the near future... 😂🙏

[@grimreapers]

Will see movie next week.

[@jeremyunderwood302]

Custom made for your channel.

[@kenhelmers2603]

FUN :) Thanks GR!

[@kgp1958]

And add a submarie that can get closer....

[@kosomolsk]

Nice film.

[@Hokieredneck]

simba stating what everyone was thinking

[@HypnoticChronic1]

Hey Capt would it be at all possible if we could get a 6 Day War/Yom Kippur War and or Falklands War wargame in the future? I'd also be interested in seeing a Iran-Iraq War wargame as well.

[@squireson]

When I was younger, I _hated_ the kid who told me to watch him play some video game or other. Now here I am, day after day ...

[@grimreapers]

I can only apologize for this...

[@psikogeek]

Isn't this the defense plan that failed to stop Tomahawks in Syria?

[@flossordie2256]

Those were jassms

[@andyf4292]

it stopped all but 21... out of around 50- which seeing as you can't reload VLS at sea, was planned before those ships left dock

[@InfraredSpace]

You mean Americas Invasion and killed innocent people's in Syria? @psikogeek (I think the world should sanction USA, and Stop using USD payment and inflate the Dollar system, and every countries should move on to use their own currency like Russia, for what they did to other countries as their Weapon testing field.) NATO should be destroyed. If only world doesn't has USA, and Russia, it would be a peaceful planet in the universe.

[@flossordie2256]

@@andyf4292 no proof any were shot down in that attack at all. And there are the same number of impact craters as missiles they said were launched.

[@andyf4292]

@@InfraredSpace might have a point....

[@neanderthor66]

Is this game worth playing if you don't have any head-tracking device?

[@grimreapers]

Just get a tracker, mine cost $50 new.

[@Shadow-1949]

Crimea bridge is a real target . Can you do a work up on that bridge because I have knowledge on that bridge I’d like to test / prove

[@ehat]

Any leads on how to acquire the S-400 or Pantsir mods?

[@Firedad376]

Patience. The mod makers haven't fully released it yet.

[@grimreapers]

Not public yet.

[@ehat]

Thanks for the replies. I remember it being posted for about 24 hours, then it was taken down. I thought I had missed my chance to get it, but I'm glad to know it's just being further developed.

[@nicholashughes8214]

Yes then i would love to see the follow on to this called Crispy fried Westerners When the Russians retaliate.

[@nikolanojic6861]

Oh yeah so ya all saying : Tomahawks would come from multiple positions but nobody mentions the S400 being blind lol

[@Lord_Shadowz]

When the Tomahawk wants to scalp, it scalps! Hahaha. During the Iraq war didn’t they launch about 1500 during the first night or two? I remember it was just ridiculous. I would have been on a rooftop with an AK at that point screaming at the sky lol. Oh and there’s sooooooo many missiles in storage. So many thousands. They keep upgrading them in batches. Did you guys read they are bringing back the Tomahawk N!! The Nuclear warhead tomahawk!! It’s crazy.

[@NeilWaybright]

I suspect that the Navy Tomahawk mission planners would have availed themselves of the Ukrainian ADS and routed the missiles close enough to the Ukraine that they would have had cover from Russian fighters by the Ukrainian S300 and BUK ADS. They likely wouldn't have flown them over the Ukraine specifically (for political and coordination reasons), but the Ukrainians wouldn't let Russians fly with impunity within range and would likely have created problems for your alert fighters.

[@Stand.Your.Ground.]

What about launching multiple different kinds of missiles at different angels and elevations

[@JaJa-yj3fs]

Yes the bridge in real life be taken down . Decoys mixed with real missiles along with ECM will work .

[@terminusest5902]

What about a night attack that would be much more likely given the lack of any support. Cruise missiles can work just as well at night. Did visuals help with this scenario. What visual signature do the cruise missiles have at night. Also, the cruise missiles would likely be flown over the Crimean peninsular with lower radar signatures and terrain following navigation. The missiles could also approach from different directions to complicate interception by Su-35. Should cruise missiles be equipped with RWR and chaff. Especially when they are unsupported. Direct, unsupported, over water approach is extremely risky. Ground mapping improves cruise missile navigation. Also, the cruise missile do not have the benefit of intelligence on Russian defences and how best to avoid them. They can follow complex routes over land.

[@barriofiesta5675]

Tomahawk are wave skimming at 6 feet above the water when close to the target .

[@lenledwidge5367]

ONE TOMAHAWK MISSEL, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION. is this correct. That's hard to believe , you don't want to be mlssing to many targets, they may ground ya, Its good to see your not wasting shells by spraying everything in front of you. Keep your tail up, wind at your bac. This is an old saying my bud for fifty years (R.I.P) would always say when it was time to go.

[@blank138]

Can your team pull off the Top Gun 2 maneuver?

[@SeanJM013]

First wave should have been a wall of TALDs.

[@superflyguy4488]

How about sending in Danny Glover and Morgan Freeman from the West, Laurence Fishburne and Samuel L Jackson from the South, the S400 would become so overloaded with guilt that it cant specifically identify who is who it will just shut down. Simples.

[@grimreapers]

I'm not sure we could afford those fees? Also you forgot my favourite - Denzel.

[@willcoleman3427]

where's your Garmin GPS receiver in the SU-35?

[@grimreapers]

fell off the windscreen.

[@rickfox4068]

Why are the TLAM's flying so high and only from one direction?

[@mtndeer]

Cap , It’s much easier to Use the force…. more… !

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@thejdgoodwin]

These simulations assume some degree of competency by the Russian military. Such an assumption may be risky.