Could South Africa Break?

[@h0ser]

Things I didn’t mention in the video: After watching this back I guess I never really said that Apartheid was not just a disaster for South Africa, but morally evil, so I’ll say it here. When I say that diversity stunted South African growth it’s basically saying “diversity is bad”, which from a North American perspective is a very controversial thing to say. But the difference between North American and African diversity is that most (about 85% willingly) North Americans either left their home or had ancestors leave their homeland to live in this new land, it was a choice. And North American society has only existed for less than 400 years, compared to African civilizations existing for 1000s. That's 1000s of years of rivalries as well as unique cultures, languages, and rituals. These groups developed naturally along geographic boundaries, like all other groups do. Then comes along a random group of outsiders who tells these different people groups they are now supposed to be part of the same nation, and I hope you can see the problem with this type of diversity as opposed to the North American kind.

[@unfunnymeiling2315]

Ok thanks for the new found info

[@Leo-556]

Congrats on hitting 60k!

[@chronicallyboredenby]

Ofc, and most North American countries are fairly artificial creations too but were created specifically as a union of diversity (like how USA and Canada have states and provinces) and the ones that aren’t are fairly small anyways.

[@chronicallyboredenby]

@@Leo-556 yes he deserves it

[@seadkolasinac7220]

you still haven't justified the title where you claim a civil war will happen

[@arkuis]

The news that Cape Town is "about to run out of water" is about 4 years out of date now. The water shortage ended back in 2018.

[@rockrabbit253]

We are well into our dry summer season and dam levels for Cape Town are at 87% .

[@dogdog2635]

The video is crap, I liked the channel until they did this on my country, everything is poorly researched and surface level stuff.

[@rockrabbit253]

@@dogdog2635 As someone else commented , these channels seem good until they do something on something that you know more about than they do. Just think how inaccurate their other stuff must be.

[@dogdog2635]

@@rockrabbit253 yeah they just evaluate these countries through text books it’s incredibly frustrating to see it

[@incognitomode5945]

Brings back memories

[@pieterdeklerk1614]

Continued looting and corruption by the ANC is largely ignored in these types of videos.

[@spearfisherman308]

Exactly and the promises of free shit.

[@AudioBladeDeccy]

We wuz kangz

[@Romes761]

@@AudioBladeDeccy Your running out of time buddy. You will learn the hard way.

[@MIA-ti7pg]

And how is it any of your concern?

[@MIA-ti7pg]

@@spearfisherman308 don't worry the EFF will replace the ANC 😁

[@klater5842]

Corruption is the real main issue here in South Africa and I'm sure fellow South Africans will agree...

[@lu881]

We do

[@mokgethwarachidi]

Yes,I agree

[@lungisileg.1394]

Yep.

[@timothystander4892]

Stem

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

Well im south african and i agree.

[@animatedamons470]

Honestly as a south african I can see why people outside south africa would think this video is very INFORMATIVE when it is shallow.Everything this guy talks about is just history that we learn in class and barely contributes to the problems we have today.The main drive in our countries fall is our corrupt government that cares more about themselves than the people.

[@zach6210]

I was watching this video waiting for him to get into the meat of the matter when suddenly the video ended.

[@sanderbenning1182]

I talked about the unrest in South Africa recently with a friend who lives there; he brought up the issue of corrupt government, neglect of governance and failure to run the state as a government should. Like you say, this video seemed very shallow; whenever I thought he was going to touch on the modern issues of the country he just leaves it at “the legacy of apartheid”.

[@kekula69]

sounds like fucking everywhere on earth

[@Cyricist001]

He also uses misleading statistics.

[@singularityraptor4022]

All if his vids are like this. I tried to get in depth and noticed everything he says is barely shallow at best and completely inaccurate at worst.

[@SA-theoneandonly]

As a South African I can tell you that if anything these issues are minor compared to how corrupt our government is

[@coolgamingweekly]

VERY minor. Almost no relevance.

[@gmodrules123456789]

The centralization of wealth to a minority group will inevitably cause corruption.

[@jacobfinder7476]

@@coolgamingweekly You have no idea what you are talking about..

[@jasonfreak99]

@@coolgamingweekly Of course its relevant, they are symptoms BECAUSE of your corrupt gov

[@hydronisgaming349]

As a South African, I think you may have understated just how big the problem of ANC corruption really is

[@TheNinjaDC]

I've studied abroad in SA, and I feel this video is off in several ways. The biggest issue being downplaying the sheer corruption and incompetence of the ANC government. This is a government that decided to randomly ban alcohol while kicking off covid lockdowns, "for societal goods." The wealth inequality is also a crippling issue, but it is also not so much a literal black & white issue (anymore). The number of wealthy black SA is comparable to white SA. It is best to think of SA as a nation once divided by race, is now divided by (economic) classes. And the difference between the haves & haves nots is jarring. The upper 1/5 having a comparable living to Mediterranean Europe (Spain, Greece, Italy), while 4/5 live in apocalyptic poverty.

[@dogdog2635]

All the problems that were created by apartheid could’ve been mostly solved in the last 30 years but the ANCs corruption has just made the problems far far worse

[@lu881]

You're preaching the truth to the wrong crowd man. The people who are here are mostly right wingers and White nationalists who are here because of Afrikaner nationalists on KZbin who've told them that Black people a genociding White people 😄. So they're not here to listen to the actual facts, they're just here for confirmation bias.

[@SJokes]

I agree with all your points except for the alcohol issue. The main reason to bain alcohol is to reduce the amount of patients in hospitals that were there because of alcohol abuse (drunk driving, poisoning etc). This reduces the load on the health care system so that it can be better utillised for covid patients.

[@phsycresconquest6636]

The alcohol ban wasn’t random though. Most of the crime alcohol driven and the amount of suffering and injury it causes outweighs what ever jobs that it provides.

[@lancelotwilson5761]

So these sell-outs weren't ready to rule as they claim.

[@michaellawson6533]

You definitely got your stats from a dustbin. Unemployment stats are average 54 % countrywide. Whites are forbidden jobs due to BEE ( Black economic empowerment.) There are at least 1,2 million whites who sleep outside , are unemployed and homeless. Blacks even more due to population ratio. The black youth ( 18 to 28 are 80 % unemployed including university graduates. ) The whole electricity supply system is collapsing and in some towns no water for months. All major cities central business districts have rotted out since Mandela came into power until now. Education is 2nd lowest in the world . Can you believe it that a war torn country like Somalia has better education than us. All due to corruption . All assets are already plundered and just recently they have legalized the plundering of the last one left , namely the pensions system and its going fast. Soon the elderly who suffer from malnutrition will starve to death. How about some honesty and a visit to the country before spewing such rubbish stats.

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[@fullmetaltheorist]

I can see that you tried to do your best to make this video but as a South African here's what I think you got wrong in your video: First off I really don't think this country will collapse and become separate countries. An economic collapse could happen (if the current government doesn't go through with its plan to clean up the country's corruption and fiscal policies) but not a collapse of the country's government and borders. I don't know why in each of your videos you keep mentioning that the only reason why some countries exist is because of colonialism. South Africa exists today because we see each other as people of the same country regardless of ethnicity. That's why the bantu stans didn't try to become independent after apartheid. And I should also mention that countries like Australia and Canada also only exist because of colonialism. I know this might be hard for someone from a country where they make up a majority majority to understand but in Africa the concept of a country is not about being from the same ethnic group its about a shard sense of national identity. Most countries in Africa have at least 5 to 10 ethic groups living together and they're all tied together by that shared sense of national identity. The countries borders aren't nonsensical too. Multiple ethic groups can exist in one country without it being a problem. Black South Africans see themselves as on group and not as separate groups. Many people especially in big cities have family and friends who are from other ethnic groups. People generally don't care if you're not from the same ethnic group as them as long a you can speak their language. Like I said above in Africa nationality in most case is more important than ethnicity. The countries borders were formed by geographical factors. Just look a a picture of the country's rivers or ock formations and you will be able to see the country's outline on a map. And a an African ii really don't like it when people talk about African borders and put the blame all of Africa's problems on them. It is very hard if not impossible to divide Africa by ethnicity and if someone tried then Africa would become a continent of a thousand countries. Plus with globalization and migration the idea of a country being made up of a single etchings group is quickly becoming outdated. I really don't think a civil war is likely. The unrest that happened last year wasn't mostly done by zuma supporters. The people who initiated the riots were a few dozen zuma supporters but other people joined in when they saw zuma supporters hijack trucks and loot stores. The people who joined in saw an opportunity to loot for themselves. Some of the looters were just poor and trying to feed themselves while others just wanted a to get in on the action before everything was gone. Some people even took advantage of the situation and sold food once the stores were destroyed. Since then business bounced back within a month. Where I live it took 3 weeks to repair all the damage. You made another mistake by saying that most White South Africans live in the western part of the country but actually most of them live in the interior in and nearly half of them are in Gauteng. Plus I would also like to add that the country was even more divided during apartheid. The government back then was so obsessed with dividing the population that they even made sure that if you were from for the example the Zulu, Tswana or Venda you would only be allowed to live in areas with people from your own ethnic group. But these days with more free travel a lot of those places are no longer just filled with one group. The reason why South Africa has 3 capitals isn't so we don't have one group taking over. It's actually because when the country was formed in 1910 it was formed by combining 4 countries and thus the capital of each country became one capitals of South Africa. Pitermarizburg was removed as one of South Africa's capitals after a while. The difference in income and employment is also a bit misleading. Because the White middle class of South Africa is around 4 million while the black middle class is around 11 million(it should be noted that there are 45 million Black South Africans so even though there are more wealthy Black South Africans these days most of the navite African population is still poor). The difference in wealth between Black South Africans has grown over the past few years. Older generations and rural Black South Africans are not progressing as much as younger urban generations who have access to government free education and access to tenders and preferential employment laws. At around 9:20 you should have updated your map of election results. In 2021 South Africa had elections again these were Municipal elections not national elections but the anc lost its majority for the first time in history. In the 2019 elections the anc had 57% of the vote but last year they had 46% of the vote and it is clear that the public is dissatisfied with the anc's rule. Another important thing that happened during the 2021 elections was that the and lost its majority In 2 other provinces which are Gauteng (the most populated province) and KwaZulu-Natal (the second most populated province. The opposition is parties that took over the provinces are working hard to convince voters that they are better at running the country than the current government. The riots mostly affected KwaZulu-Natal and part of Johannesburg, mostly in the townships other cities in Gauteng weren't affected by the riots. While yes the country's gdp was declining over the last decade the economy actually grew faster than expected last year. And it is expected to grow at 2 to 4% this year. You're really wrong about Lesotho. The reason Lesotho still exists is because both the South African and Lesotho governments aren't interested in merging. Both governments aren't particularly interested in expanding. Plus the government of Lesotho is not very keen on the idea of losing their power to their neighbor. The monarch of Lesotho would also go from being a leader of his own country to just being another king. Here are between 8 and 10 royal families in South Africa and the Sotho royal family would be far less influential than the Zulu, Tswana or Xhosa King. With the current unemployment and economic problems we're facing right now it wouldn't make any sense to add 2 million people on top of our problems. A few people in Lesotho are also not comfortable with the idea of going from being a sovereign country where they're a majority to being part of a country where they will make up only 2 to 5% of the population where they would have less political power. The same reasons also apply to why Swaziland and Botswana still exist. The most vocal voices of Lesotho annexation are some people (on both sides) and organizations like the Free Basotho Movement which is an organization from Lesotho that advocates for annexation. They tried to hold a referendum but the government of Lesotho doesn't want that to happen. I didn't mean this comment to one off as rude or condescending but I think it would help your videos even more if you talk to the people from those counties before making your videos to get a more informed perspective on things happening in those countries.

[@seandlamini5780]

True

[@wrestling46nerd]

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[@ronjared2204]

Excellent reply.

[@Cotac_Rastic]

Ew you got your word vomit on me 🤢

[@eathh_23]

This shit is way too long, relax

[@PakBallandSami]

South Africa is such an interesting country man it history being one the most important in the twenty century we can learn so much form it and just learning about this in countryball for is great really love it

[@l-b01josefandres44]

it's not really an important nation in world affairs tho.

[@DanielGChong]

@@l-b01josefandres44 it will exemplify as a nation which can have an impact on world politics, so saying South Africa with no influence on the world is an understatement.

[@JaKingScomez]

Theres so many important nations and events that happened in the 20th century and south Africa is nowhere near it

[@rose6713]

@@JaKingScomez South Africa is up there, hence all the western media always reports on the slightest insidents that happen in SA. We are a pretty big deal.

[@batavica4135]

What about germany bruh

[@zuluuyasabeka9303]

I’ll admit we do have a lot of problems as a country but a civil war is very unlikely.

[@TyGalouboy]

Nahhh it's gonna happen in maybe a few years

[@zuluuyasabeka9303]

@@TyGalouboy I really don’t see it happening 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TyGalouboy]

@@zuluuyasabeka9303 with the petrol prices going to I bet R30 by June it is likely and don't forget with petrol going up so does everything else aswell

[@lancelotwilson5761]

Don't confuse freedom with your flag/psuedo-independence-your'e still under the yoke of white colonialism. Did apartheid die in south afrika-who own the land and control your mineral resources. Who, tell me??? ' Liberty of people is NOT possible without ownership of land" (Paul Bogle). Do you remember what the sell-outs/anc did to the striking black miners in Marikana in 2012??? You all let them use nelson mandela to fool you.

[@JK-gu3tl]

secession is still reality, though.

[@ihavetowait90daystochangem67]

South Africa having mountains named “DrakensBurg” sounds like the country is from Lord of The Rings or Game of Thrones

[@PakBallandSami]

Sup fam

[@zachryder3150]

Drakensberg means "dragons mountains" so it's very fitting

[@robadc]

Went there on holiday once. It's neat, one of the coldest places you can go in SA. First time I ever saw hail.

[@BradelzPitcher]

tolkien did infact use them as inspiration, as well as hogsback mountain range, about 3hrs from my hometown

[@batavica4135]

Draken= drake

[@africanwarlord5877]

As a South African I agree we gonna have a rough few years but overall I'm optimistic about the medium to long term future. Two things the video misses about our geography and ethnic relations is that we have mountains and ocean to the south and sides and dessert to the north ,the interior is where the majority of ppl live. On the ethnic relations although south Africa has 11 languages we have 4 language groups and most black south Africans know 3 languages(their home language, one from the other indigenous language group and at least some English) most of the time u don't know what someones home language or tribe is unless u ask or they mostly speak their home language and most of the time ppl barely care. The collapse might still come but I don't see the country dividing on ethnic lines wat I'm more worried about is a continuing rise in nationalism and xenophobia that would make us a regional pariah. The ANC has been eating itself for a while now and shows no sign of stopping so they'll out the picture by the end of the decade either from being voted out or collapse and after that we won't have a one party dominant democracy anymore which will make it harder for future governing parties to veto corruption and bad policies like the ANC does. The short to medium term will be hell though I don't look forward to it but we have a decent pool of graduates and intellectuals with degrees from some of the best universities in the world we won't have a shortage of solid ideas to bounce back the only thing that can stand in the way of that imo is how dedicated the majority of ppl in parliament are to turn things around and we dont end up with a self destructive political system and/or ideology again.

[@joestendel1111]

It’s funny how hoser never mentioned that the biggest single tripwire that might actually cause a civil war would be a leader of the ANC refusing to accept a election and calling their members to violence. It’s easier for him to say “if a leader dies” than “if the ANC doesn’t get what it wants”

[@steven3837]

@@africanwarlord5877 I always wondered if there was a war for Zuma how it would go down because I feel like he would be greatly outmatched numerically and technologically, he'd have an unorganized mob and we would a bigger unorganized mob and the national defense force.

[@africanwarlord5877]

@@steven3837 lmfao that's the thing (and why I was attacking his the standoff at his house with pop corn lol) that has no chance of working so it'll probably be a gaurella campaign to cause as much unrest as possible to destabilise the state so they the broader chaos makes arresting him and his allies is less of a priority. But on the bright side zumas realistic the only one that can pull something like that off so without him then his faction is pretty much done

[@beautylolowya1059]

There is no Xenophobia in South Africa, don't speak rubbish

[@clmk28]

Apartheid was horrible, and that didn't destroy South Africa. I agree with you that many intelligent people can fix this problem. A robust democratic system filled with many parties could solve the current one-party government regression.

[@spearfisherman308]

I think you can’t blame all of the inequality on the historic oppression from whites, when the black majority government has made legislative programs to help the poor and there is still this unequal outcome you can’t just point the finger at racism a good example of this would be in Zimbabwe where mugabe seized the property of white land owners to help equalize the country put it made their economic problems worse.

[@justconversing102]

This video was informative but it’s clear that it was made without insight to some of the problems we face . I speak as a black South African man that is apart of the the upper middle class, admittedly my standing in life is not a result of my own efforts but rather my parents who are educated and overcame unfavourable odds to get to their current positions in life .I cannot speak about the past because i am apart of the born free generation but i will speak from my own experience. Like i said i speak as a member of the upper middle class but like many other black south Africans in the same standing i have relatives that are apart of the lower class and have to live and experience the failures of our country on a daily basis . Upon seeing the great disparity between the haves and the have nots in our society and in my own family one can identify key issues that have lead to some of the failures.Some of the biggest issues are an extremely corrupt government, a failing educational system and almost negligible growth in our economy . I will not go into these issues as others have already posted comments with sound analysis of the situation but i will speak about the one thing this video fails to acknowledge and that is the nature of the people that live in the rainbow nation which is among some of the most diverse groups of people on the planet yet we have a common voice and it says that we want change and improvement for the all South Africans . There are no groups that want to be isolated in their prosperity but wants growth for all . We are a country that shares a troubled yet inspiring past that illustrates our ability to come together when it means the success of our nation as a whole . We saw a glimpse of our unity when The springboks won the 2019 world cup and the country cheered in celebration for days on end , Black ,White , coloured and Asians alike.To the world it was a game but to us it was a glimpse of the joy we could share together . Our country is troubled yet the prospect of civil war is not something that any of see as a viable or effective manner in which to deal with our problems .

[@flipster7285]

You need a Bells! We can work together, but the current regime is afraid of that. They need us to be divided so we cannot stand together and remove them from power.

[@henrimellett2445]

Give him two! It's clear we have to find a way to spread the wealth around more, perhaps reducing luxury spending to raise social spending to stimulate local production and so increase employment, but that needs the kind of national commitment it's seems capital liquidity is averse to . But it would be nice to see a commitment of capital and taxpayers to resonate with the feeling of the world cup victory...where can I make the donation?...ret?...

[@hopebuhali3887]

I'm South African and I can honestly say that South Africa is nowhere near a civil war, the amount of misinformation in this video is sickening! It's really funny to see foreigners talk so confidently like they live here.

[@GothaholicPookzi]

@@hopebuhali3887 wdym not much missing out in the video it just doesn’t give enough mainly because most of his audience is kids so he can’t go that deep into anything anyways

[@SJokes]

Said it really well.

[@joss4074]

It's quite astounding how uninformed you can be and get away with it on KZbin.

[@tristanheaton2127]

?

[@thetaomega7816]

yup

[@zacharytracy3797]

Wut?

[@trappist1-e301]

Like the 3 capital part

[@mrboucenurserespect756]

He's done the bare minimum of research. Ooooh country no do so good = civil war. Not like there was literal government implemented racism, and that ended without a civil war.

[@mimicbox3]

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[@trza100]

We have lots of problems in SA, but I am confident that we will never have a civil war. 🇿🇦

[@africanwarlord5877]

Ppl focus on how many languages we have and not how similar they are and how most of us are multilingual so race is more important to us than tribe. South Africa will have a political n economic collapse but only that we(black SAns) are too United to start fighting for the sake of it like other African countries we understand that we're stronger and better off as one country rather than independent provinces run by monarchs hence y we have Lesotho trying to join rather than the sothos trying to break off and join a bigger Lesotho. That's y I think after we sort out our political problems South Africa has a bright future cuz we can finally sort out the economic problems and we'll have no reason to be divided anymore cuz the racial inequality will be gone

[@fullmetaltheorist]

It's really funny to see foreigners talk so confidently like they live here.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

@@africanwarlord5877 Everything you just said is right.

[@africanwarlord5877]

@@fullmetaltheorist like the collapse is coming anyone with common sense can tell u that but us breaking up is just not beneficial to anyone and we know that hence why all the races came together and tried so hard to avoid it in 94 when it was more likely to happen. The only flop is possibly the western cape cuz I doubt we can financially afford to stop em if they do try break off and geography makes it easy for them to defend but for now most of them want to stay even of they do break off most of their water comes from our side of the country and united we out number them 8 to 1 so when we get our shit together we can get back to them lol.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

@@africanwarlord5877 That whole movement to split off the Western Cape lost momentum right after the elections when nobody showed up to support it. Most people in the South Africa see themselves as part of one country, and that's where this video falls on its face. H0zer seems to think that a country can only exist if we are all the same race and speak the same language.

[@theactingace]

I think a great video would be one on why the Congo 🇨🇩 failed. It has a very interesting history and it’s very unfortunate that it failed as it has mineral wealth comparable to the combined economies of America and the eu.

[@chronicallyboredenby]

Zambia could be talked about too, they have large natural resources too, but yet they’re fairly poor.

[@SHAHIDKC]

It had Nationalized industries.

[@carlrodalegrado4104]

the congo? you mean King Lepold's Backyard?

[@economicserfdom4087]

I believe it failed because of neo-colonialism and corrupt leaderships and authoritarism.

[@anti.bctards7376]

@@economicserfdom4087 A lot of Africana and Caribbean leaders were voted in by outside nations to be puppets

[@PodcastCentral333]

As someone living in South Africa, nah I don’t think so

[@TheSwiftAssassin7113]

Yay I love civil wars. There so civil.

[@konstantinosdragasespalaio4178]

Yep

[@nrop000]

Lol, civil wars are usually the most uncivil wars

[@robadc]

Yikes, there's a lot wrong with this video. Like, wow, please do better. People who don't know any better are going to come away from this with a lot of really bad info.

[@quasimodoquasimodo9438]

What was wrong. Can you Pls clarifying

[@robadc]

@@quasimodoquasimodo9438 -The reason for the capitals was wrong. -The divisions between the populace was oversimplified massively, there are many more extremely important demographics in the country. -The description of coloreds is also wrong. The demographic is more or less its own thing, not a mix between others. Similar to African Americans in the USA. -Did not really touch on corruption, a major driving element in current events. The root cause of the riots last year. -Didn't mention economic flight. Another extemely serious driving factor in current events. -Painted the racial/economic divide in an extremely binary fashion. -Water shortage information is horrifically out of date. The info he presents is half a decade old. -The whole premise of civil war is absurd. There is no one rallying group large enough to actually provoke a civil war right now. The closest one came to forming was a decade ago and it petered out. This is all just the stuff I can remember from passing while listening to this video half asleep yesterday so there's likely much much more.

[@craigkoekemoer6681]

How about you actually do some research and get it right? Port Elizabeth - wrong name. Cape Town running out of water - wrong year (only 4 years out). Your statistics - wrong percentages. I won't go into the details, but you really should do a better job as you paint so much doom and gloom about South Africa as a country, when you really have no clue about what truly goes on within the country. Afrikaans is not only spoken in the Western Cape - there are Afrikaans speakers all over the country. isiXhosa, isiZulu - might have larger communities in certain areas but you find people who are Zulu or Xhosa in many different areas throughout the country. No mention of the Malay influence, which very much can be seen in the Western Cape? You discount them and seem to think that one of the 4 racial classifications is a mix of black, white and Indian ethnicity? No mention of the "Zulu wars" where a brilliant strategist called Shaka Zulu dominated a large number of other native tribes, forcing them to flee in fear of his Zulu warriors. No mention of the concentration camps that the British attempted to use to force the Boer's to give up the fight against England. No mention that a large part of the White population were pro-Germany during the 2nd World War which caused serious rifts in the Afrikaans communities. Many South Africans speak more than one language, some are even fluent in 3 or more! Education is an issue, but not for want or lack of a majority wanting to learn, but more due to a minority who pilfer and abuse their powers to fatten their wallets (true corruption) - thus creating a more unequal / undereducated generation that enters the workforce! The recent troubles where over 300 people sadly lost their lives is known to be politically motivated, preying on the inequality of the poorer part of the country. Yes there is inequality - the country has had 28 years to move forward to attempt to rectify the wrongs of the past, but it has not been successful and it will take more time for the country to truly find it's feet. Many do their best to integrate and become a stronger and more powerful nation, but it will take time - it will take time! You fail to mention how many Zimbabweans, Mozambicans, or people from countries north of South Africa have also attempted to integrate (maybe temporarily) into the South African society, or the issues with Xenophobia, Gender based violence or other issues which would be just as relevant to mention. Civil war ? They said that would happen in the early 90's just before Madiba became the president, because they assumed the far right would mobilise the Defence Force. Did it happen? No. @h0ser - kindly do some more research before you paint such a bleak and incorrect picture of a country I dearly love!! Yes - there are issues as there are in any nation. But Civil war - you really don't have a clue!! How about you look to your own country and the issues within - sort that out first before throwing those stones from across the pond towards our beautiful rainbow nation! We are (mostly) proud to be part of the Rainbow Nation ... and we have endured through over 470 years of tough, difficult, challenging times. We are South African's - and we are proud of it!

[@lu881]

Well said

[@brianmoshoma443]

This is a very poorly researched video. The 3 capitals thing started with the colonial governments and has nothing to do with the natives trying to split power. I always hate these videos on African states because the research is always half *rsed.

[@agrid2608]

Whatever the economic problems, the video is completely off. He keeps showing a language map as if people live in separate, different parts of the country. They don't. What that map doesn't show you is that in an area where a language may "dominate", that "domination" may be 40%. What the map doesn't show you is that in the *same area* the next highest language group may be 38%. But because it isn't the highest percentage the area is painted in the colour of the top percentage, giving the impression that it's mono-linguistic. E.g Cape Town: 42.6% black (mainly Xhosa), 39% Coloured (Afrikaans-speaking blacks& mixed), 16% white, 1% Indian. Now add the percentage of Afrikaans whites with Afrikaans speaking blacks and you end up with a slight Afrikaans majority and a green map, and yet from Cape to Limpopo *genetically* SA has an overwhelming African genome. This is just one example of many, in the video implying a flawed picture which vastly complicates the situation, without explicitly stating it.

[@TinyToonStar]

Just a correction, the percentages of the Coloured and black population must be swapped. The Coloureds are currently the majority in the city.

[@agrid2608]

@@TinyToonStar Nope. Cape Town population over half a decade ago was: Black 42.6%, Coloured 39.9%, White 16.5%. Source: City of Cape Town Community Survey 2016.

[@TinyToonStar]

@@agrid2608 Oh you talking about half a decade ago! I was talking about right now

[@agrid2608]

@@TinyToonStar Right now the black component would be even larger. The Community survey 2016 is the last stat collection done on CPT demographics. The currently ongoing Census 2022 will give us the latest details soon.

[@damien5859]

If you wish to know more about SA have a look at how many grants are given and the whole BEE law. Then take a look at our education system. This will help you understand why our country is so corrupt and why its failing.

[@The_Protea]

Bro hoser not to be a hater but diversity is not the problem and it was never really a problem . The main problem is the ANC (yes the party that protest for human rights are the problem ) they are so corrupt . ANC literally kills people just to keep their power and I don't think they're gonna solve the energy crisis. Inequality you got right this is obviously due to apartheid , we don't have alot of well educated people and they live in tin houses and they aren't the best living conditions for people. But today I see alot of black people working in decent houses with well paying jobs . Yes we have a high unemployment rate is high but alot of those people don't work in formal jobs like your target walmar or Apple alot of them work in informal jobs like spaza shops . Im a native black south african and I live rich life but my grandmother lives in those very poor areas but when the people there aren't unemployed they own spaza shops and there are houses with good living conditions.

[@CantusTropus]

One of the neat little intricacies of South Africa's geography is that the Cape region is one of the few parts of Africa where a European could settle in and comfortably live in, similar enough to the climate back home that thinking of it as a second homeland was viable. This is the biggest reason why it was the colony with the most White emigration and why it's still the African country with the highest % of Whites (though that's been decreasing in recent years thanks to...a variety of reasons).

[@coltonross5414]

Zimbabwe be sweating haha

[@rangergxi]

Reasons...

[@CantusTropus]

@Censored for the truth Because "Caucasian" is an inaccurate term from an obsolete genetic theory, but is kept around because it's what everyone knows and it's too well established to get rid of. The actual people of the Caucasus have relatively little to do with Europeans genetically.

[@tloutlou2655]

The Cape is too much of the desert. It hot and dry

[@lEGOBOT2565]

@Censored for the truth haha white man bad

[@john_doe_not_found]

Everything starts with education. Even the basics, how to grow food and feed yourself. SA fails at education, everything else is doomed to fail also. The government is only 28 years old. It is riddled with corruption. Something like arranging the country to take care of the basics, food security (a food stamp type program) and education, has so far failed. The government was handed a hot mess in 1994. But they've had 28 years to make changes. At this point the ANC has to own their mess and can't blame what happened prior to 1994 for what is happening now.

[@gargoyles9999]

They were actually doing not so bad until Zuma came in. So the whole “ITS ALL THE FAULT OF VAN Riebeeck” rings hollow. It turns out that massive corruption and incompetence will crush anything who knew.

[@leonardorjioffor6683]

The land confiscated is the major roots of poverty in South Africa, nothing more, if they do not address the land issues the inequalities will never never change

[@louvendran7273]

The people are to blame they allowed corrupt politicians to represent them because they are afraid of racist whites retaking the country. Its a double edged sword.

[@louvendran7273]

@@leonardorjioffor6683 Most of the land in South Africa is useless, moreover how many people do you think have farming skills do develop the land if given it. In 30 years there hasn't been a push from the youth to learn agriculture. Do you think land distribution will magically vanish the current problems? Government and politicians are just bringing about false narratives to deflect their wrongdoings. Look at what happened in Zimbabwe its a joke even after 20years, the seized farms are unproductive. The government is to blame they have delivered substandard education to the masses so they remain disenfranchised economically and intellectually. It is a masterplan that has worked until now. However the hate and resentment is bound to overflow. The government is squeezing the middle class to the max.

[@heinrichvanheusden5445]

@@leonardorjioffor6683 I would like to disagree with you on that point. If you take away uninhabitable land (mountains, rivers, desert) how much land would be available for people to 'own', and with the huge population boom amongst the black population how much land do you think people will actually have? it is easy to say land must be given back but it you do the math and look at the numbers, those who want land will have to be happy with the piece that they are standing on. And I doubt that much can be done with that to generate wealth.

[@nickmoser7785]

Muhammad Ali was right when he said: "Bluebirds and Redbirds are both birds but they don't get long". Liberals and conservatives will never fully get along with conservatives. White people never fully get along with Mestizo people. Jewish people never fully get along with Black people. People in rural Alabama will never fully get along with people in rural Idaho. Likewise, people in Chicago will never fully get along with people in Atlanta. It does not mean people should not act civil but to pretend that humans are not inherently tribal regardless of their background is foolish!

[@OceanChannelProductions]

As someone with a lot of south African friends, i hope the nation can recover

[@gargoyles9999]

Failed state by 2030

[@bullfrog4530]

I live in south africa and can tell you for a fact it won't that's why all young persons like I am are getting ready to leave.

[@ethanos5446]

I an South African and I say ok cool

[@ethanos5446]

@@bullfrog4530 I'm also South Africa and u know what's funny Uts how the narrator of this vid pronounces the provinces

[@adriaanjohan1607]

As a south african, I say it guaranteed to collapse by 2030

[@Danymok]

I'm a little biased since I'm half Lebanese, but I would love to see videos on Iran or Lebanon. Iran is definitely a country with a lot of eyes on it, so it would be interesting to learn about their economy, if they are becoming more poeerful, if they're forging alliances with Russia or China to combat the US, etc. Lebanon also would interest me, as its economy and infrastructure have basically collapsed, and could even be considered a failing state at this point, so understanding what led to this moment, and it's future, would be very interesting as well. Being half Russian as well, I would enjoy a video on Russia. You know, given the recent news, they'd make sense to make a video on, plus they are a major power but with some interesting features. It's economy isn't that great, and a lot of the West doesn't like it, and given their weak economy, they can't leverage them like China can, so understanding how they're still doing well, if their economy is growing, or if maybe they are allying with China to combat the US, etc. I know it's a lot, and I'm just leaving these suggestions for the sake of it, but no matter what you do, it'll be good, I've been binging your channel and have been loving it.

[@user-ts1yw6ji2o]

Hello from india

[@malcolmjenkins3585]

Same bro.

[@prielknaaphofnar.9754]

As someone judging from the amount of actual research done in this video you may not want them to do a video about your country. Lots of innacuracies.

[@rambo2603]

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[@nickmoser7785]

I assume that you practice or your family practices Shia Branch of Islam (the better version of Islam)

[@RikkiMMA]

Can't really blame the problems on apartheid. Let's be honest here

[@HisShadow]

Looks like the Cape should break off from the rest of the tire fire.

[@yesfinallygot1]

7:19 - they left westward yet the drawing shows them going east? WHICH ONE IS IT?

[@Hati321]

You didn't mention state-mandated discrimination against minorities implemented by the ruling ANC party.

[@dad9979]

"Unity in diversity" Nah

[@dylanmaier3055]

We were actually growing economically until Zuma became president in 2009. People didn't like how boring and business focused the prior president was so they voted in a man with nothing more than a Grade 3 education.

[@Benthesuperai]

As a black Congolese living in south Africa I can confirm everything is true I've seen rich black south Africans and in Johannesburg where I live there is more wealthy black south Africans more than white now.

[@camiscooked]

Anyone on the ground in South Africa knows how truly far fetched civil war is.

[@camiscooked]

The amount of bad takes in this video reeks of a privileged world view.

[@TheGuitarNewby]

@@camiscooked based

[@k.umquat8604]

the neighborhoods are literally walled off in the east and people rely on corporate militias to defend themselves...

[@nicholasrodriguez4990]

Maybe not civil war but it makes sense for some sort of collapse like splitting up into multiple nations

[@casperfourie9124]

We ain't perfect and we have a long way to go, but this compulsion to have ethnostates is ridiculous. A lot of us in the "born free" generations are tired of the old guard. We are a very complicated nation. I hope it's not intentional, but this focus on South Africa being imminent to collapse seems to be rising as tensions in the US is rising between the absolute shit show there. We are a cynical but optimistic lot. For me personally, I live in a nation where I can love who I love, follow my own gods, stand firm in my political beliefs without demonization. A lot of us do take for granted these rights we have that are considered optional privileges in other countries. We ain't perfect, but I am proud to be South African, and we are not going anywhere

[@themsocksodoom]

There is so much wrong with this video which could have been avoided if you did some real research, this video is clearly from the perspective of a foreigner(nothing inherently wrong with this if done correctly). It would have been a good idea to get some opinions form actual South Africans because it sounds like you're just reading from Wikipedia pages. South Africa is a mess and its good to bring awareness to this but this paints the wrong picture.

[@jacopofolin6400]

For example what had he wrong? (No offense i am Just curios)

[@camiloandresbalzacastellar5157]

@@jacopofolin6400 .

[@alastor8091]

Plenty of South Africans in the comments saying otherwise.

[@timothymason7449]

@@jacopofolin6400 I'm South African so I feel like my opinion has some weight Firstly he doesn't mention it directly but through the statistics he provides it makes it seem like white people own the majority of the wealth. As of 2010, maybe 2015 I don't believe this is the case anymore. To add to this white people are literally at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to being employed, go look up BBBEE reaffirmative action, on paper it seems like a good idea but all that it's doing is causing a huge brain on the country, you never ever hear of white people getting tenders from the government, or government positions (except the western Cape). We have had severe load shedding of electricity and water in the past 5 years while also pushing up the cost of electricity which is putting huge stress on local businesses. We were given a R500 billion aid from countries around the world and not even a fraction of that money has been used on local business and citizen aid. But they do send money to Cuba to help the Cuban people with aid. We have an influx of illegal citizens from neighbouring countries every year which pushes up xenophobia, this means very violent riots which puts the whole economy on hold for like a week, up to a month. The ANC has now had close to 30 years to turn things around but the country has gone further down the drain since they took power. But the video blames that on inequality from the previous government. Public services are at an all time low, corruption is atrociously high to the point where its not if it happens but how bad is it, and we see this on all levels of government. I wouldn't say the issues in South Africa are between races as much as what they are between classes. White rich people want nothing to do with black people, rich black people want nothing to do with white or black people. Our private security makes up a bigger number then our police force and army put together. You see in my opinion this guys video is what you will read on the Internet or on paper but in reality this isn't what the problems are. Also one last thing the natural landscape doesn't really contribute to dividing as much as what money does. Gauteng has the highest population of any province yet its the smallest and that's because that's where all the money is.

[@Starbuck_]

also going to have to agree with the others guys on this, as a south african. Country's in a rough place but a civil war is just incredibly outlandish.

[@pulepebane5679]

If only you could live in Soweto for a few years. Then you would know that there will be no war here. We aren’t that naïve. The fact that we constantly act out against our government is a sign that our young democracy is strong. The people still have civil rights. Economics and history are important yes, but let us not disregard the value of the lived experience. South Africans won’t let a civil war happen.

[@yolothegoat1967]

So true…

[@lancelotwilson5761]

Don't confuse freedom with your flag/psuedo-independence-your'e still under the yoke of white colonialism. Did apartheid die in south afrika-who own the land and control your mineral resources. Who, tell me??? ' Liberty of people is NOT possible without ownership of land" (Paul Bogle). Do you remember what the sell-outs/anc did to the striking black miners in Marikana in 2012??? You all let them use nelson mandela to fool you.

[@JK-gu3tl]

Act out in what direction? If Malema gains power, South Africa could end up like Zimbabwe.

[@JK-gu3tl]

@@whoopdewhoop7154 I don't want it but I do root for secession. The world is a better place if it was nothing but much smaller countries. Big countries are an abomination. How can one capital properly govern millions of people spread out over its territory? It's a zero-sum game, esp. in a democracy.

[@danielwells774]

@@JK-gu3tl Big countries work extremely well in many cases. Look at Canada, Australia, US and China. Secession would be very bad for the poorer people. The owners of the economy will not be affected.

[@PakBallandSami]

Thanks uploading today I was have a really bad day really this is a great video

[@vargasf.4854]

El ANC tuvo 30 años para corregir cualquier problema que pudo dejar el apartheid.

[@truthalwayswins3078]

The race & financial division still exists now more than ever in reverse mode, why? The politicians become billionaires and don't maintain or build the country. The poor will stay poor as long as the politicians only look after their own pockets. Corruption is rife, crime is thriving that includes farm murders, rape, looting and killing. Very few black people are able to commercially farm, that has been tried and failed miserably. The black voter based parties have only one ideology, getting rid of the white people and take what they have, this will turn South Africa into another Zimbabwe, very quickly.

[@AleisterInWonderland]

To my fellow South Africans reading this, we must be kind to each other, even in the face of greed and stupidity. They know not what they do. Educate them, from a place of love.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

Step one remove the anc.

[@AleisterInWonderland]

@@fullmetaltheorist the ANC represents freedom from oppression for more than 80% of the population. Maybe we can start with only appointing politicians without active business interests in the country? Lawyers are designed in universities to be pedantic and confuse you with words. I feel like with engineers or mathematicians the laws would be concise, logical and of greater ethical quality. Who knows..

[@robert1529]

maybe reforming a government that has every ethnic group in it almost like a council that make decisions based on a vote. please comment if explanation is required.

[@AleisterInWonderland]

@@robert1529 I hear you, however I feel like that would reinforce racism and the 'us and them' mentality that is so detrimental to a society that we all live in. The long term goal should be to value other attributes over race. It's unfortunate that intelligence, intentions, morality, etc. is not as blatantly apparent as race(skin color). We stereotype when our previous experiences lead us to believe all members of 'x' skin-color exhibit the same traits.

[@robert1529]

@@AleisterInWonderland yeah I didn't think about that.

[@ntateMarete]

As a Lesotho citizen I want to clarify a few things. We do not want to be a part of South Africa, never have and we will NEVER be.. what u said completely ignores our struggles with south africa, the boers and british and what we lost to south africa due to the wars in the 1800s. So do more research on those topics and maybe, just maybe u will understand why we will not be and do not want to be part of south Africa. DO UR RESEARCH abuti and don't ever give even the slightest idea that there is something that South africa can do do make Lesotho be a part of south africa. Instead, what we as Lesotho want is our land back which stretches all the way to vaal. Two more things, drakensburg is called Maluti Mountain range, second, orange river is actually the senqu River which originates from LESOTHO. A BONUS, our water is what is powering Gauteng aaand Capetown.

[@humanbeing4841]

South African here and I'd like to mention a few things. Firstly, yes I do think this country will have a civil war and collapse and yes all Apartheid did in the long run was hurt the potential of this country. However I can't stress enough the failure and ineptitude of our governing party the ANC that has been in power for nearly 30 years. Since the ANC was elected in 1994, we have a government that has only exacerbated our problems of inequality, racism and poverty by maintaining bad race-based policies, rampant corruption and inefficiency. The ANC has had nearly 30 years (more than enough time) to institute policies that promote economic growth, strong education and raise the standards of living for the poorest but have ultimately failed. The way this country is governed is a socialist regime. Entrepreneurs and businesses owners have little incentive to grow because of high tax and anti-white legislation and therefore struggle to create jobs for people. I believe that South Africa's only hope is to have a less centralised form of government and become a federation of provinces where our provinces can govern autonomously.

[@steven3837]

Similar to Americas states?

[@humanbeing4841]

@@steven3837 Yes. Or like Switzerland or Australia.

[@hashy4940]

@@steven3837 no, but possibly in the future. Who knows....

[@lu881]

You think there'll be a civil war

[@africanwarlord5877]

Exactly but I doubt we'll have a civil war for the simple fact that as things got worse we saw a faster rise in xenophobia/nationalism compared to tribalism and racism the only wild cards are Zuma riving MK if found guilty and if the Cape actually tried to succeed. But I'm hopeful for the medium to long term since the ANC is dying at a faster and faster rate and its starting to look like a multi party democracy is going to replace it which will make it harder for future governing parties to veto bad policies and corruption like the ANC does cuz they'll have to compete for our votes and loyalty.

[@mothepractitioner]

WRONG!!! CLASS WAR, NOT CIVIL WAR

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

This is a shallow video, and ironically probably does more to bring about the civil conflict that it would probably try to avoid. Seriously, sometimes I think that these kinds of 'video essay' channels just try to hop on any form of tragedy for clicks, regardless of what the consequences of their video might be.

[@MonsieurDean]

*INEVITABLE*

[@PakBallandSami]

Indeed

[@bigboyman5743]

in reality, it will never happen

[@dad9979]

@@bigboyman5743 All nations inevitably fall,the only question is when,I do believe that South Africa will eventually fall though I do believe that we are several years to several decades away from that

[@dad9979]

@@bigboyman5743 Then again I do wonder if we are in a new precedent,whereby it's impossible for countries in the western world to truly fall due to the fact that there is no competing elite to go against the ruling elite,South Africa being no exception to this

[@bigboyman5743]

@@dad9979 even if south africa ever falls, its probably gonna be a stagnant and slow ride with different expectations or it might end up becoming or joining into a superstate in the future, the point is that its likely that it wont end up in a sudden and violent civil war, since, despite the problems, south africa is still politically stable and does not have opposing factions that want control of the country

[@ПетрВрангель-т8п]

On the good side: Boers, persecuted in their homeland by ethnic cleansing and genocide, can always move from that neg-roe yoke to live in Russia, everyone here is happy to see our hardworking brothers both in blood and spirit.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

Russia is a worse place nt going to lie.

[@christobosman5710]

@@fullmetaltheorist Speak for yourself

[@fullmetaltheorist]

@@christobosman5710 Cold and authoritarian. Is that the type of country you want to stay in?

[@christobosman5710]

@@fullmetaltheorist Study Russia ,they have a coastal area where the sun shines ,there is no snow ,it looks very similar to Capetown .

[@christobosman5710]

@Amon Güs doctors the same all because of b e e (black power employment) . All the best to you and your family ,stay safe

[@jossflores2379]

Yooooooo, i subbed today

[@LaaLas-hw1cg]

Looks like Chicago, Los Angelas, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Detroit, Seattle, San Francisco, but diversity is strength right.

[@daneobrien3960]

SA got a lot of problems man left right and centre. People tell me I’m not South African because I’m white we need to work together man this country isn’t going to get anywhere with this attitude. Telling people they don’t belong somewhere especially with my heritage is like telling the Americans to leave America it doesn’t make sense

[@agrid2608]

...so, no mention of the possibly 20 million illegal immigrants over the last 30 years out of a population of 58 million that affect those poverty percentages, I see. And no, the mountains were not a divide of natives and non-natives. The colonists literally ethnically cleansed a large part of the Cape in the 1700s pushing the natives into the very East into what would become the country's first native reserves.(rebranded as "homelands" in the 20th century). Over the subsequent centuries those people from the reserves (Transkei & Ciskei) were the main labour in the Cape Colony and since the second half of the 20th century are moving back in. And no the top 10% owning the capital is not all white. It's just the top 10% and the top 5% elite is roughly 50/50 racially. Unequal? Yes. But not along concrete racial lines. In fact inequality has gone up in SA since the end of Apartheid as a result of wealth growing *within* the black group.

[@B-I-G-N-A-S-T-Y]

Glad to see someone does research and not just regurgitate like a NPC

[@h.m.5724]

Where are you getting those numbers from? From your a55 I guess! 20 million illegal immigrants, bi**h please

[@moltebin]

I like how you add music from the region you talking about ☺️

[@MrBr100200]

Could have mentioned something about the camps used by the British in the boer wars, basically served as a how to guide for Hitler.

[@willem7399]

You seem transfixed by "apartheid" - South Africa had it' s most prolific growth and development in the time of apartheid. What was built up during that period has now been destroyed by the communistANC.

[@beautylolowya1059]

All that was built was for the benefit of the whites only. It's a fact that South Africa is the most unequal and divided country in the world,and that was the result of Apartheid.. So please don't come glorify racism here.

[@christobosman5710]

@@beautylolowya1059 why didn't you build on your homelands instead of penetrating the Republic of South Africa that belonged to the whites that fought the blacks and British in wars to obtain it ,yes we did build it for us it belonged to us and not the blacks that had t heir homelands

[@beautylolowya1059]

@@christobosman5710 typical racist

[@nechyboi4064]

@@christobosman5710 LMAO Built what? Have you ever picked up a brick your entire live? Have you ever worked at the farm? Have you ever been inside a mine? Chill kid

[@christobosman5710]

@@nechyboi4064 I grew up on a farm , ploughing lands ,building stores ,fighting on the border protecting your ass while you were sleeping in your bed ,now what have you done for this country you stole with lies ?

[@Hhhh22222-w]

With the current ANC government, this country will continue to stagnate, it's apparent just look at other provinces ran by non-ANC government and see how much better they are

[@aidenhall8593]

South africa has been concerned about a civil war for decades and so regulations against owning firearms and the power of their armed forces must be taken into account when considering the possibility of a Civil war. It’s not like there’s just guns and ammo lying around like in other african nations, and the armed forces are not anything to scoff at unlike in nations like the drc

[@chazar4528]

if someone wants to have gun he will get on in one or another way so banning guns is very stupid idea

[@pietjooste2542]

ha ha

[@firmanimad]

@@chazar4528banning guns won't do too much to deter revolts, as once instability opens up and big demand for weapons appear, suppliers will make themselves available. But it will do wonders to stop stupid little shits like school shootings and armed robberies. Stop being a sheep.

[@matheuroux5134]

@@trinex123 well the reason civil war didn't break out, is because the Zuma loyalist that are most likely to trigger it are obviously badly organised and not passionate enough to actually risk their lives.

[@userequaltoNull]

@@firmanimad ah yes, banning guns has done a massive amount to stop crime in South Africa, hasn't it? After all, it's not like South Africa is one of the most dangerous nations on earth, right?

[@malumebk9839]

If they is one thing that's unlikely happen is South Africa is a civil war. Every tribe lives it's life with no interference from other tribes plus they are hubs where people meet and mix plus the has been big economic archivements that will only increase

[@heinrichvanheusden5445]

Ive seen a few of these types of videos and people love mention the inequality and love talking about the privilege and love taking about the history... but never have I heard the video creator talk about the HUGE influence that political idiology has in the current landscape... its easy to talk about a civil war but start pointing blame where its due!!! Politics in this country is busy killing its people and will kill millions more just so that those in power can still sit there and fill their pockets...

[@victorgw]

Still doesn't change the fact that Apartheid was one of the cruelest crimes against humanity and created fertile soil for the problems South Africa is experiencing politically at this very moment. Politics in this country is directly due to Apartheid - You have ANC, the party most South Africans “are/were” the most comfortable with because of Nelson Mandela and all the other heroes who fought against the Apartheid struggle. ANC will never really do much to address the massive structural issues in South Africa because of the agreements that were made at CODESA which to drastically oversimplify - the outcome was basically "Hey you non-whites can have political freedom now, so long as you don't disrupt the white elite establishment like take the land back or nationalize big White businesses, in return will allow you to create BEE so you can serve our interest and also become wealthy so long as you don't try help the average non-white South African too much, sure build RDPs and Government schools but don't address the fact that the majority of them live in townships while they white counterparts live in Surbabs." - To conclude ANC will never implement structural change in this country because simply put, it's not in their white aligned interest and also they are too busy indulging in the highest level of corruption. Secondly - DA, it will never be the governing party simply because most non-whites in this country have had or know of someone older who has undergone something traumatic or painful under the Apartheid regime so the distrust among whites and non-whites is very deep and riddled with memories or stories of pain, maybe in a generation or two they will have a real shot, but even then I doubt, I have followed the party quite a lot, I must say they don't really lay out plans for true "change" in this country. Their whole campaign is centered around anti-corruption which is good but then what? What about the millions of starving South Africans - they never speak on how exactly they plan to heal the nation and make it more united but more importantly they never address the issue of economic inequality. And they want us to be a Federal State which will likely be formed on ethnic or racial lines encouraging all these regions to go all the way and spit from South Africa to become their own countries. Thirdly, we have EFF the party that speaks for the most fed up non-white South Africans, Julius Malema is speaking music in the ears of the poor and abused, he understands them and they understand him, he speaks for the marginalized group of non-white South Africans who wanted more radical action in 1994, the ones who wanted their country back and thought ANC would deliver it. He is likely going to be more and more influential as the years go by as this happens he will have more power over policies. This is somewhat concerning as he is very hostile to the white people living in South Africa and his economic policies are more left-wing involving things like nationalizing big businesses and taking back the land without compensation. If he gains power, white people must have their travel documents prepared. But again I state, he is a product of Apartheid whether it was Julius or someone else, this country had the most fertile breeding ground for a non-white and pro-non-white radical to ascend to power, there are just too many non-white South Africans with empty stomachs who would rather die “fighting” for their country rather than just die of meer starvation which is a consequence of inequality the white political elites of Apartheid left us in. The other parties are too small and are heavily regional or ethnic-based which will never be enough to gain a majority of South African voters. So I conclude by blaming the political landscape, what you are balming are the evils of the Apartheid government because our politics is a direct product of Apartheid - Hendrick Verwoerd is probably smiling in his grave right now.

[@christobosman5710]

@@victorgw look at Firing line with William F Buckley Jr The question of South Africa. before you talk about seperate culture development apartheid it is clear you know nothing about it and is only making your name as we in Afrikaans would say Gat here

[@heinrichvanheusden5445]

@@victorgw I agree and I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact that Apartheid was a horrible practice, and that NO political party in South Africa has the ability to make it better as it currently stands. Where I would like to disagree with you is that the biggest problems pushing inequality and division at the moment cannot be blamed on Apartheid or white establishments. Failing healthcare, failing education systems, being one of the most crime ridden countries in the world to name a few has got nothing to do with codesa or white people. The things that the people of South Africa NEEDS (not wants) can very easily have been developed and bettered by the government, but they chose to look after themselves and their friends and family. Virtually all plans and policies implemented has nothing to do with bettering the lives of anyone, and after it all comes crashing down the easy way out is to blame apartheid and white people. The fact remains that in political ideology is the biggest reason why there is inequality and division in the country

[@victorgw]

@@heinrichvanheusden5445 I agree with you saying the government failed very horribly in implementing proper healthcare, proper education systems, and dealing with the crime rate, its sad but it's true. But as much as the South African government can be blamed and trust me they deceive a whole lot of blame for the mess South Africa is in, we must also understand the Herculean task they had before them, they had to redesign an economy in which service delivery, quality education, and a well-trained police force only existed for about “10%” of the population in the White areas of South Africa during Apartheid. If you know a thing or two about economics you know that taking an economy designed for a few people and making it all of a sudden work for everyone is next to impossible, there weren’t and still aren’t enough resources and infrastructure that reach the poorest parts of South Africa because simply put the South African Government inherited a bad government that had virtually no policies forget about bad policies, they had no policies that helped the non-white South Africans. If you look across the world of formerly colonized nations most countries still struggle with this until today, they inherited countries that were created to serve the few but now have to serve everyone, to redesign such an economy in my humble opinion will take more than 50 years because a lot of it isn’t really dependent on policy but rather on the development of actual infrastructure and that costs a lot of money and time, and as most South Africans know the Tender-prenuer practice is also a massive obstacle in the development of the entire country as a whole, too many corrupt and overpriced tenders are wasting taxpayers money and that I cannot blame on Apartheid - it truly is the fault of those who are currently in power who choose to line their pockets instead of doing their jobs properly. But as it pertains to crime, education, healthcare to deal with these things properly we ought to just understand the design of South Africa, virtually no other places in South Africa have somewhat first world development like that which we see in Cape Town and Parts of Johannesburg, Pretoria, and Durban same with the education systems. There are very well-run government schools but shockingly they are soo few. If we want a nationwide good standard of education and healthcare, it's not really a matter of policy but a basic need to build lots of infrastructure and educate as many people as well as possible and that simply put will take 50 years maybe even a century. Think about it, it took the Apartheid government and the colonial British government before it about 50ish years to establish an economy that gave white people a fantastic quality of life pre-democracy, imagine how long it will take for this to be done for every South African? It all goes back to the bad situation the Apartheid Government left for South Africa, it truly takes a long time to rectify that system so that it truly serves everyone equally. I am not removing the blame from our current leaders as I said this process will take a long time and even longer because of the bad leadership that runs this country, but we must not overlook the fact that the task at hand is insanely difficult to achieve because of what the National Party left behind.

[@heinrichvanheusden5445]

@@victorgw I think we will have to agree to disagree on this point. I understand your point of view but cannot accept the argument.

[@hennie5307]

you seem to skim a lot over the insane corruption of the current government and blame it all on apartheid. I don't think I have to be the one to tell you this, but the history and political climate of the country is A LOT more nuanced than your video explained here.

[@beautylolowya1059]

Racist

[@christobosman5710]

@@beautylolowya1059 why ? Proof your point ,otherwise keep quite if you can't proof him wrong that it isn't apartheid fault that you are a failure

[@BtXFWkyZBtXFWkyZ]

Some lands just shouldn't have been gifted a western civilization

[@jac2841]

I'll tell yah some forgotten history The first boer war was bloody but the briish back down but when gold (not daimonds) was discovered and thats when the briish came back and used the first concentration camps to capture the Dutch kids and women to force a surrender because the gorilla warfare and marksmanship of the Dutch challenged the briish which is why the boers despise English and England as they committed the worst war crimes that they banned ( this is simplified by allot)

[@alcabone1126]

Not to mention that apartheid only came into effect when the national party came into power.

[@liamwhite8149]

die die die boer pig white kaffirs

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

That is not true. The same scorched earth tactic was used by the Boers and the British against numerous African polities in the areas. You can read about the burning of Ulundi, for example. Scorched earth is a very effective way to combat guerilla warfare, so it is understandable that they would implement it. The 'concentration campls' were created because they couldn't just leave women and children on the farm after they burned it down. I don't think it was ever intentionally designed to massacre women and children. That was just the unfortunate outcome. Remember that more British soldiers died to disease (the same disease that killed people in the camps) than actual fighting.

[@jac2841]

@@liamwhite8149 ek verstaan jou , rerig

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

@@jac2841 a visit to the Anglo-Boer War museum in Bloemfontein, the reading of multiple books and oral history (I am the descendent of both British and Dutch). If you don't believe me, read up on the history of scorched earth tactics in general, and in SA in particular. Again, I refer you to the burning of Ulundi. It was the capital of the Zulu nation, and it was burned to the ground. These are tactics that the Boers used on their enemies too. The exception is that they would leave the women and children to their own devices afterwards.

[@MrBr100200]

To fix inequality you can’t just take from those that have and give to those that doesn’t. This will and partly already have cause a brain drain situation where educated individuals will flee the country and seek employment overseas. Why stay in a country that is hell bent on taking what you have? Rich people are leaving and rightly so.

[@professorx4966]

I always hear stuff like this, but if you were allowed to amass wealth in that society but also benefitted from the inequality in that same society which is nicer way of demonstrating the act of stealing wealth which is common with today’s aristocrats. What are your alternatives? Like let people suffer more to protect the rich ultraminority, like come on? They were allowed to amass wealth in that society they should be burdened with the society’s inequities. Where do you think wealth is derived from?

[@technomad9071]

But you can't just ignore it fitted decades while poverty griws

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

@@professorx4966 It depends on where that wealth came from. If it is the result of corruption and back-room deals, then yeah, that needs direct intervention. But as to Bernhard's comment, if the aim is to fix inequality by taking from the productive members of society who have earned their wealth, they WILL flee. Or failing that, lose all incentive to continue producing.

[@breadbaskets2772]

How is declining birthrates a bad thing? All developed countries have low birthrates, the fact that they have lowered it so greatly is a sign of their progress.

[@donovanlocust1106]

White supremacists don't seem to think so

[@Maelstromme]

Declining birthrates are usually a sign of societal decay, and cause a collapse of labor and manpower if it dips below replacement level. A shrinking population is almost never a good thing. I don't think wealth is progress if it leads to a country shrinking into irrelevance within a generation or two.

[@breadbaskets2772]

@@Maelstromme Every single developing nation is working towards having a lower birthrate. Birthrate declines because infant mortality declines, they dont need to have as many children because they dont die as often anymore. Do you seriously think every single western country is collapsing? There is a difference between growth rate decline and negative growth rate. 2.1 Births is the golden number countries should strive for, most african countries are above 4. The richest ones like south afirca and botswana have been improving.

[@donovanlocust1106]

@@Maelstromme Someone's a Nazi

[@Maelstromme]

@@breadbaskets2772 KZbin deleted my comment because I sent a link. I'll just say this, the vast majority of developed countries are below 2.1 fertility, and are declining further. Intense social programs and family friendly policies attempted in places within Europe have failed to make them budge much, and migration has failed as immigrant populations rapidly decline to below replacement level birth-rates as well. There's a strong cultural aspect to this, likely stemming from how crucial university has become in young adulthood- ensuring later parenthood for many. Not to mention the commodification of dating and hook-up culture and pornography as well as an unfinished/incomplete rewiring of gender relations has caused many people to outright shut themselves out of both the dating market and parenthood altogether. Think of groups like MGTOW and TERFs as examples of this. In Japan this is even more intense, with significant romanticization of fictional sexual relations, and even marketable house-wife robots, and even AI romantic partners. The fertility rate is extremely low in Japan, and so are the prevalence of couples. Now, as of 2015, approximately half of men and women aged 19-35 are single, and the fertility rate is 1.36 births per woman, about 60% of what's required to sustain their population.

[@alexanderbruwer9363]

The best and most accurate part of this video is the comments section. You get better and more informed opinions and information there. It's interesting to see an outside perspective on my country but the points are sometimes so far off it feels like he's talking about somewhere else

[@bricky332]

As someone who lived in Sa for nearly 20 yrs, I’m sure the country is never going to fall into civil war, I reckon in the near future we will keep going down until our lowest point which will be bad, it’s clear to see we r headed that way, but I’m also sure we’ll recover quite quickly as the country is very stable in other areas, like our infrastructure and many other things that will be useful if we are to recover, other countries that have gone into civil war recently have all been far worse off than Sa in terms of resources and abundance of goods and services, so I reckon we’ll be fine in the very long term

[@nipoone6109]

Government corruption and general incompetence are the main problems. Racist parties like the EFF and Black First Land First use apartheid as talking points but they're the only ones. Even the ANC doesn't do that. Apartheid isn't really talked about much here. Honestly, your entire video can be called shallow research.

[@glassychap1141]

The word Balkanization is used a lot because it’s true. I hope the people of South Africa can get along one day. If there is one equalizer in all of humanity it’s suffering. But suffering together sometimes breeds the best of friends. God bless :)

[@agrid2608]

Balkanization? Whatever the economic problems, the video is completely off. He keeps showing a language map as if people live in separate, different parts of the country. They don't. What that map doesn't show you is that in an area where a language may "dominate", that "domination" may be 40%. What the map doesn't show you is that in the *same area* the next highest language group may be 38%. But because it isn't the highest percentage the area is painted in the colour of the top percentage, giving the impression that it's mono-linguistic. E.g Cape Town: 42.6% black (mainly Xhosa), 39% Coloured (Afrikaans-speaking blacks& mixed), 16% white, 1% Indian. Now add the percentage of Afrikaans whites with Afrikaans speaking blacks and you end up with a slight Afrikaans majority and a green map, and yet from Cape to Limpopo *genetically* SA has an overwhelming African genome. This is just one example of many, in the video implying a flawed picture which vastly complicates the situation, without explicitly stating it.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

@@agrid2608 You're right on that. The chart does seem to make it look like people only speak one language in every province but if I just jump two streets from where I live people go from speaking Zulu to speaking Sotho and if I drive 5 minutes from where I live I could end up in an Afrikaans area.

[@sm3675]

I hate the word "Balkanization".

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

Where do you get the idea that they don't get along? For such a diverse country, and given its history, racial relations are fairly decent. About as good as, if not better, than one could expect.

[@kops5234]

It's sad to see what my country has come to. Many South Africans have left and fled to New Zealand, Britain and Canada Edit: Looks like I started a civil war in my replies. Welcome to the human race.

[@davidjoelsson4929]

@@rose6713 shut up

[@shoeby9273]

@@rose6713 You don't know who those people, their experiences, or who they consider family. Try not to be racist on your way out.

[@Luca-nu2zg]

@@rose6713 what about the coloureds, indians and african immigrants from other countries?

[@simpslayer69yt59]

@@rose6713 You just have to be born in a country to be its nationality, a black guy born in London is British same as a White guy born in china is Chinese you're confusing ethnicity with nationality

[@ryangreenwood433]

It definitely is, im looking for every opportunity to get out of South Africa, i grew up here but dont feel safe living here.

[@bradleyknox3385]

Get your facts right No one has water Or power

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

Should do a series on "countries most likely to erupt into a civil war in the next X number of years"

[@Lucas_Antar]

I second this!

[@thema.sosoudid2229]

China

[@kavky]

@@thema.sosoudid2229 Not going to happen. The Han are over 90% of PRC population and overwhelmingly support the CPC and its policy of forceful Sinoisation. There will be unrest in the Uygur northwest but it will not escalate to a war the same way nothing happened after they conquered Tibet.

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

@@thema.sosoudid2229 unlikely. It's not XVIII or XIX century. PRC (ironically) runs the country on nationalism

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Bosnia

[@seandlamini5780]

You so wrong about many things... Especially about the Borders... The Borders of South Africa are fine. You're also wrong about diversity being one of the reasons South Africa would collapse. And we are not stopped from interacting with each other because of some mountains of diverse geography (remember we have the most advanced rail and road network in africa) so we are pretty well connected

[@Danymok]

South Africa's flag is pretty good looking, while managing to have 6 colors, which is pretty interesting.

[@spitfire8790]

Interestingly, It Includes the Dutch Flag. More Interestingly Apartheid was Implemented by an Afrikaner.

[@matheuroux5134]

Most of the facts given in the video is right, but there are some undebatable false facts given: The first is that in fact the majority of white people do live in the densely populated East. Its true that white people form a greater % of the population in the South West, but most white people live in places where a lot of black people live too, like Gauteng and Kwazulu-Natal. The second is something someone else also mentioned, the 3 capitals was really a compromise between the Brits and the Afrikaans people during colonialism. Technically due to diversity, but the diversity in question has nothing to do with the majority of the population. All 3 capitals were "originally" white so diversity is a moot point there. The Cape Town draught is definitely over. Climate change may mean that those problems will return, but for the moment Cape Town is not at threat of running out of water The South African economy has not, in fact, gone backwards since the end of Apartheid. The GDP is larger, the GDP per capita is larger and the HDI is higher.

[@Da__goat]

I was in SA in 2017, both in Cape Town and Jo’burg, and there are parts that are very nice and parts that are not so nice. I was there as part of a school trip that focused on ethics so Apartheid was a big topic, and we went to all of the museums while we were there and I tried to speak to as many native South Africans as I possible could. In general, people don’t have any issues with differences between one another. What I did learn about though, was the Indian Ocean and Arab slave trade, my god was that horrific. You thought the Atlantic slave trade was bad, you ain’t seen nothing. You might think that there would be some kind of taboo about talking about Apartheid, but not at all, they really don’t mind and freely answered all of my questions. They didn’t blame the average members of a group, but instead acknowledged that the problems arise from the government, something they even said persists to this day. We were fixing up a slum in Jo’Burg, and running right through the center of it was a modern railway line that was built when they hosted the World Cup. Huge football stadiums are built next to slums and are just not used anymore. And, there was a water drought in the Western Cape when I was there, well I looked into it, and turns out that water was totally misappropriated and crop yields were impacted dramatically.

[@thezone709]

As a South African I can easily say this video is not very well made... As another comment put it it is simply "Shallow" and may seem solid from the outside looking in but it really doesn't reflect on what is actually going on in our country. You should have consulted several people from the country (from all around the political and cultural spectrum) to truly get a good grasp on what is truly going on in SA. Even though I think SA is one of the more complex countries out there in terms of current affairs, I honestly think it goes for ALL countries that you need someone (sometimes multiple people) who actually live there to consult before you can even get a basic grasp of the true situation.

[@janrabie1890]

This is such a load of nonsense, once again blaming apartheid for all the problems. The root cause of all the problems in South Africa are: 1) When the Dutch arrived in 1652 they encountered people who were still living in the Iron Age. By contrast, the first University in the Netherlands opened in Leiden in 1575. Bologna in 1088 was the first in Europe. 2) There was an obvious difference in development between the Europeans and Africans. Could this development gap be overcome? 3) Possibly, but in SA the population grew from 15,2m in 1955 to 59m in 2020 with the vast majority being black. That is growth of 43,8m people or 288%. 4) The tax base in SA is simply too small to lift millions of people out of poverty. 5.8% of the population is paying approximately 92% of all personal tax and they are also paying about 85% of all VAT. Mathematically, it is impossible. 5) These are gigantic problems and the ANC is not able to solve them. In fact it is getting worse due to Incompetence and corruption plus misguided ideologies based on socialism. 6) Everything else is just noise. 7) PS You are wrong about the drought in the Western Cape. That was correct in 2018. Today the dams are 86% full in summer. Please do better research next time.

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

Sources?

[@janrabie1890]

@@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree For which statistic?

[@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree]

@@janrabie1890 ... all of them?

[@janrabie1890]

@@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree KZbin doesn't allow more postings and links on this thread. I can email sources to you?

[@rossstubbs7398]

Cool video but it gets a lot of things wrong. Just to mention a few. 1) In the Geo section you showed how the country is split west to east white to black, that's actually not true. What would be a better way of putting it is that there are racial clusters around the country so for example, Pretoria itself is very white and Afrikaans but surrounding it are large black townships. And in SA the wealthy live where there is wealth so a lot of "white areas" are having black middle-class people move into so things are changing like that, more and more this idea of whites in wealth is changing with an educated middle class. 2) South Africa has an incredibly corrupt government, at the end of Apartheid we started moving forward to build a great country for everyone and since then white people have been all but banned from working for the government and are not allowed any positions of power, to my knowledge there is only 1 guy named Andre De Ruyter and he runs our failing state-owned power company trying to save it. There have also been Affirmative action laws signed in that force companies to take underqualified people because the government wants good stats, the outcome of this has been the private sector has been suffering for the last 14 years. No, South Africa isn't failing because of Apartheid or inequality, South Africa is suffering because there is a corrupt populist government that scapegoats its problem onto white people. Which then thousands of whites leave the country, draining it of extremely skilled labour and no one to replace them. 3)Just to clear up, that ex-president we arrested is guilty of stealing 238 million rands from the state, illegal gun-running deals and general cronyism.

[@PakBallandSami]

To be honest a lot of Africa countries are diverse and deal with the same issues that South Africa is dealing with but a guess it's unique with south Africa because it has a minority of wight people in it

[@decus9544]

It's drastically more severe than in other countries due to it's much larger settler population and the history of apartheid.

[@criticalcontainment]

Ah yes because diversity worked so well your Yugoslavia, the austro-hungarian empire, and Russia. The simple fact is people need something to unite around something and diversity hurts that.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@criticalcontainment not necessarily, diversity can also become an asset.look at the USA, Indonesia, Canada etc

[@criticalcontainment]

@@k.umquat8604 diversity isn't necessary a death sentence as long as the nation remains economically prosperous. But when things inevitably go downhill they tend to fall apart at the seams.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@criticalcontainment then we are in agreement

[@XM551S]

I don’t think so I live in South Africa and it doesn’t seem so likely

[@masonfarnsworth6730]

What's worse 5,000 people die or 50,000 businesses die? Drop some facts.

[@giftmpofu8294]

We may look divided ,but we will never fight each other

[@sirnurtle657]

Alright, as a South African I want to add a couple things: Firstly, there is a lot of divide within the different ethnicities. For example, Afrikaans who live in the Cape have a culture that leans heavily towards German/Dutch culture, whereas Afrikaans culture in Gauteng is something completely new altogether. And with the diffrent tribes like the Xhosa and Zulu... its a mess. Whoever is the Zulu king has got access to the Zulu 'Trust' which basically holds all of the Zulu's wealth, and we are talking Billions of USD here, as well as the fact that the Zulu king owns about 30 percent of land in Natal. The state has got no power over said land, and the King can collect the taxes and pocket it themselves (I think they have to give a percentage to the state but either way the king can make heaps of money). When the Zulu king died last year.... I think you can predict what went down. And here is the kicker. Most of the Native Zulu in Natal are in general more loyal to their Zulu King than to South Africa, which could mean that the Zulu can literally leave SA, and the goverment would not be able to do anything about it. I don't know much about the Xhosa or other Native tribes so I have no idea what's happening there. 2nd Point: Most of the wealth is ironically, owned by the 'Black' minority. Most whites are usually middle class/upper middle class, though there are some who are pretty rich. Reason why people think the Whites have got most of the money is due to them being extremely visible to everyone around. Moreover, most rich people keep their money in trusts, charity etc so there is that to take into consideration. It also does not help that Racism is pretty rampart, especially among the White Minority and no, I am not painting the whites as good guys. What I am saying is that there is a lot of things going on behind the scenes. Also, for more context I am talking of 21st Century SA. If I got anything wrong or forgot something, please correct me

[@happydays5218]

Wyte men own the majority of the commercial agricultural land in South Africa even though they are the minority? Wyte men are the majority shareholders in South African commercial banks. Wyte men probably own the country's largest insurance companies like Sanlam. Companies like DSTV are probably owned by wyte men. All these companies were set up during the sick Apartheid era when blacks were prevented from participating in the economy adequately. Also how would you explain the native land act of 1913...

[@vorynrosethorn903]

And the South African government wisely hasn't touched their ownership of them as when enterprises were seized in other African nations all of did was leave a gapeing hole where prosperous industries had once stood. It is only a matter of time in South Africa considering the rhetoric which will lead either to an even bigger exodus or a civil war and probably several genocides.

[@TheMuffinMan_ZA]

@@happydays5218 Apartheid was and is a very evil thing where , in South Africa's case, a lot of white (correct grammatical spelling) people got privilege and also a lot people got away with literal murder, who, till this day, have note been prosecuted. Explain the native Land Act of 1913? It was a HORRIBLE peace of legislation that was brought in that, in my shared opinion, showed that the then ruling government was already moving in the direction of spatial segregation through land dispossession. You do, however, have a some "probably's" here and not putting forward facts. Sanlam: Level 1 B-BBEE status Multichoice (DStv) (Founded 9 November 1994, so after apartheid): Level 1 B-BBEE status In other words, majority black owned. Source? You can literally look up their BEE status and boards of directors either through official channels or their respective websites.

[@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf]

So what can happen is that SA may split into multiple, smaller ethnostates?

[@thembi9645]

Why are u saying Zulu and Xhosa is a mess? Have u seen Xhosa and Zulu fighting? Having tensions ? Guys plz don’t create something that’s not thre plz don’t try by all means to divide us. We marry each other, we like cousins coz our language is similar and culture.

[@augustineshako1540]

That picture of the great karoo is not in south Africa, it's in Namibia

[@thabangmotaung5372]

😎as a South African I feel like civil war just by watching this

[@cephasoj108]

South Africa is what happens when you focus on racist policies that actively harm economic growth

[@christobosman5710]

Yes they should do away with bee

[@lifeline.6144]

should’ve never colonized

[@christobosman5710]

@@lifeline.6144 and then , look at Ethiopia today ,they were never colonised ,great economy isn't it , don't look for excuses if their isn't any , the whole of Africa is stuffed due to the lack of unciaficioncy and corruption , not because of colonization .

[@Romes761]

@@christobosman5710 Your ancestors created this mess. I hope South Africa never sees a pale president ever again.

[@technomad9071]

And keep it up with the new chaps

[@sbl17jackson37]

The corrupt ANC is to blame.

[@ernestmalonkane8668]

While apartheid did damage South Africa's socio-economic structure, there was a good opportunity for the ANC to work extra harder to reverse the situation. Afterall, when the ANC came into power, they inherited a strong economic base and excellent infrastructure that were already built by the apartheid system. Instead of using this opportunity to build an even more stronger economy for the benefit of all, particularly the previously disadvantaged black majority, the ANC chose the path of corruption. The already established economy was squandered through corrupt activities, public officials were appointed purely on the basis of comradeship instead of qualification and suitability; mediocrity overtook meritocracy. Crime rates spiralled to unprecedented levels, illegal immigrants from other parts of the African continent flocked to South Africa in large numbers, poor service delivery by state institutions became an order of the day (public health care in South Africa is so deplorable that you are highly likely to die in a government hospital than to survive an illness or injury), Foreign investment stalled because of uncertainty created by high levels of crime and corruption in the country. A combination of all these factors worsened what was already an imbalanced socio-economic structure of South Africa. South Africa 🇿🇦 is a country highly likely to disintegrate through civil unrest because of these negative factors than to emerge into a coherent developing economy; reality is more damage has been done than good. The story of the disintegration of Yugoslavia is likely to be the story of the disintegration of South Africa. Hence, I am moving to Canada 🇨🇦 to find myself a new home and a new future for myself and my family.

[@C4Cole05]

Correction at 1:58 , the city previously known as Port Elizabeth was renamed in 2021 to Gqeberha , and while I dont put a civil war out of the question, the only person that I could even imagine having the pull to organise a full revolt is the leader of the EFF, Julius Malema, but he is smart and knows even if he wins a civil war he will come out worse for it. Also there is an independence movement to break the western cape away from the rest of the country and the organisation boasts high polling rates and good support from the people, but when election time came, they barely got a few thousand votes compared to the tens of thousands their website was boasting they were going to get. Unless a massive spark were to happen I doubt more than local unrest will happen as the same diversity that divides the population also divides any potential revolts, its no wonder why the more Zulu areas of KZN, Gauteng and Mpumalanga were hit worst by the riots since most of the people that supported former president Jacob Zuma were Zulu because Zuma was Zulu. Meanwhile in the Western and Eastern Capes which is majority Xhosa, there wasn't nearly as much happening, and in Boer country I doubt there would be so much as a peep out of even the most fierce Zuma supporter.

[@gidi3250]

Here in the western part of the country we did have another taxi war in Cape Town but the Western Cape police chief shut it down after 2 days of taxi gangs fighting and closed the route they where fighting over for 20 ish injured and 3 to 5 dead. They western cape independence movement is currently stuck in Cape Town most of the western cape have heard of them but don't know them only in the last election have they tried expanding outside of the cape but the DA is still the top dog. Their main thing of independence of all former cape colony states as it was pre 94 where the western cape was litterly half of the country was deemed impossible and they settled for the western cape and parts of the north and eastern capes but it currently is illegal for a province to leave the Republic and the only way out, without trying to change the law(ANC said they won't allow that) would be a all out war for independence but the party doesn't want violence so the party's main ideas are mostly pipe dreams. And remember it's still largely a Facebook movement that's recently gone real world and has only participated in 2 elections. Most Afrikaner people's especially the Afrikaans (Boer) part love guns and most own multiple weapons and have the idea similar to pro gun people in the USA where if the state wants their weapons or land they will rebel but it's moestly guys pushing late 60's early 70's most younger groups don't care and want the DA to solve their problems. The English part live in larger city's and really go outside the big city's so I can't really speak for them bith the majority of western cape ideals about violence and toitoi are coulards and blacks who go and destroy their local communitys witch whites find unappealing or to barbaric, but the whites and some coulards also have the philosophy of f about and find out, but for most that's all bark no bite. And as for port Elizabeth basically every one just calls it PE even Google maps still call it Port Elizabeth and the new name in () most know that the name change was nothing but a political stunt that kinda floped, since even during the apartheid years it was called PE and few called it Port Elizabeth.

[@CaptainAlexande]

Most still call it pe evan the people in pe

[@madimetjamahlatse9270]

@@gidi3250 its gqeberha.. Wen i was in the around the xhosa ppl that I was around called it gqeberha...

[@gidi3250]

@@madimetjamahlatse9270 I have yet to meet a person that calls it that I've met people from there that call it pe and I've met people who call it that place near Jeffrey's bay but I've yet to meet someone who calls it gqebehra and I've also yet to meat a white person from the eastern cape but I'm still young and theirs still time to meet people who call it that. All the people I've met from the eastern cape are in the Western Cape looking for work or education and are all Xhosa and most are desperately trying to learn Afrikaans because as one guy found out the hard way no local girl wants to date someone who can't speak her language so the next day he came into the workshop and asked the coulards to teach him Afrikaans and I threw my hat in aswell and last I talked to him he was pretty decent but still not quite fluent definitely needed more practical, but he did score that date with a local girl tho, he even came bragging with pics.

[@Cotac_Rastic]

@@madimetjamahlatse9270 Sounds like a venereal disease tbh.

[@johndavis1465]

All that has happened is you have gone from white Apartheid to black Apartheid.

[@knkadimeng]

As a South African, I found this very hard to watch. Not sure if the level of misinformation is intentional or a simple matter of ignorance. What's worse is that it is presented with so much confidence. Even the end of Apartheid, with tensions at the greatest heights, a Civil War never happened. The title seems like a clickbait to me. You did get the history right though. My suggestion: speak to South Africans!

[@mikefish8226]

There wasn't a civil war because SA was a well run country and the whites surrendered power to the black majority. The reason a civil war is talked about now is after decades of black rule SA is falling apart. Corruption, crime, grift, economic mismanagement are endemic, whites are murdered whilst politicians sing about killing whites or make threats against them. So will there be a civil war? Maybe, maybe not. Though a civil war which creates a state for white South Africans exclusively (whites would leave the rest of SA and blacks would leave that state) would be a good outcome, for whites because it would stop the murders and blacks because they would have no-one to blame (though they still would do).

[@knkadimeng]

@@mikefish8226 I’m never surprised to see nostalgic selective memories. Well run country? Couldn’t be further from the truth. Maybe true for white people. Which isn’t any remarkable when the whole country is taxed but you service 10% of it. When a democratic government took over South Africa, the country was in much worse economic situation than it is today, basically, broke! White people are murdered ? Yes. And so are blacks. None are murdered because of their race. Black politicians sing kill the farmer? Well they end up with court cases to answer to the public. White politicians ordered thousands of murders of black South Africans without worrying about consequences. As for leaving the country, no one needs war for that to happen, anyone can pack up and leave.

[@mikefish8226]

@@knkadimeng There's been 1/2 million murders and a million rapes since the end of apartheid. Utter madness. Whites are being murdered for being white, politicians singing kill the Boer or saying they aren't calling for the killing of whites 'for now'. South Africa's politicians are corrupt and inept. Power cuts and water shortages. It's been decades, take some responsibility, until you do it will only get worse.

[@mikefish8226]

@@knkadimeng Oh, on packing up and leaving, many would want to but you need somewhere to go. Remember Canada refused the asylum application from white South Africans.

[@knkadimeng]

@@mikefish8226 we’ll keep going in circles and off topic. So, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

[@deansolomon3066]

As a south african who actually lives in the country I can say you created a very distopian view of south africa and fail to mention the gains that south africa did achieve in the post apartheid period up until 2009 when jacob zuma came into power. Before zuma came into power south africa was on the up averaging a gdp growth rate of 5%. There was and still is a growing black middle class in sa. Plus to mention the anc has been in decline since jacob zuma came into power and now there is a real possibility that in our next national elections the anc will be booted out of power. The fails of post apartheid sa really came when jacob zuma came into power and used his power as president to enrich himself and his friends at the expense of south africans. It is the zuma administrations fault for the state sa is in right now. What south africa needs to do is fix the electricty crisis, fix the education system, and then fix the labour laws and you would see a dramatic turn in the country course. People have been predicting the south african civil war for decades yet it never happens. People say that there is hatred between races in South Africa but when white people go into the black townships there is usually no anamosity, no violence. South Africa is troubled but if we can sort out our national government, the country can be a very productive country.

[@almerosnyman8121]

Perfectly said

[@brynnhayward9674]

I hope you're right but the majority of people just keep voting for the ANC and until the Da or someone responsible gets in nothing will improve. It's especially bad right now my grandmother experiences daily load shedding and the water is now contaminated to the point that her and others' solar hot water heaters broke. So yeah you have to boil the water to make it drinkable right now.

[@rambo2603]

The millennials are the future. They don't know what segregation is and wouldn't be guilt ridden to owe the ANC a debt and are more likely to vote DA in the future irrespective of race. They're gonna place demands on those ANC modaeffas and if they can't meet them then give the DA a chance. Hell even those AWB varke can do a better job of running the country than the ANC. EFF hell no.

[@rambo2603]

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[@dementedmindstate7063]

So there's rarely any black on white violence?? I think I recall seeing xenophobia being a problem more than anything. Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember seeing a case about a man from Mozambique being attacked and they said it was xenophobic. Are cases like that common??

[@lllamauser9203]

Watching this as a south african. love the pronunciation lmao. good video :)

[@justvibin1087]

Diversity is not really a strength it seems :/