Could the Textron Scorpion Jet be the Light Attack and ISR Platform of the Future? - AINtv

[@RyeOnHam]

So sad to see dozens of these designs pop up and then slowly fade away with the years. The F-20 was one that I really thought should have been adopted by somebody.

[@brianjordan2192]

RyeOnHam No order from the USAF doomed the f-20. But back in the day I thought it would get many orders.

[@spirotagnw]

@@brianjordan2192 the saudi's wanted it but since it was more advanced than the f16 congress nixxed that deal

[@natheria4933]

most people cant and dont want to afford stuff like this. It costs alot of money to upgrade or change infrastructure to accommodate products like this efficiently or effectively. The only real people that can do it are the US, China, Russia, and maybe Israel. Most of those customer options arent really favored in the eyes of the people wanting to sell them because they have to also consider the political and social fallout of servicing certain customers. To put it quite bluntly, the economics of warfare are very very VERY complicated today.

[@iycephoenixx4249]

And F-23

[@aheartoflion]

JF-17 is the one that is I think inspired by F-20

[@thetreblerebel]

It's good to see aircraft competing for sales in this day in age. This reminds me of the F5. Almost like the days of old during g the Cold War

[@scootergeorge7089]

The F-5 is still flying with Saint Adversary, VFC-13 at NAS Fallon Nevada.

[@biddinge8898]

The design reminds me of the F14. Especially with the twin engine design being apart of the vertical and horizontal stabilizers.

[@yeapcunwae7229]

yup that kinda look like low budget version of f-14

[@Shadx27]

Surprised a few nations haven't grabbed this yet. It won't be an air superiority fighter, but it can do drug plane intercepts, attack light ground areas, and recon extremely well.

[@missesmew]

@Pavan Kumar after seeing the war in Ukraine, I think we’re all seeing what “drone “ technology is capable of. I know I wouldn’t want to be in a tank , plane , chopper or hell even a frigate. Couple of guys with backpacks 🎒 and millions of dollars gets left in pieces. 🤔🤯

[@Mancada100]

1:07 William Dafoe is also a test pilot????? LEGEND!!!

[@gryphus64]

Australia need a few thousand of these!

[@brian5030]

Too true... We could get 20+ of these for the cost of that crap f35 that blew up on US soil due to a defect. We still were billed for it.

[@mrbrightside3771]

Affordable air force.

[@cody56011]

If i hv my own small country i would ve buy this for my air defence

[@truckert9729]

Not so great for air to air, only ground attack....

[@cody56011]

N the Jf17 thunder block 3 for dog fighting.

[@hamboneproductions1781]

lol same

[@SPEARHEADGLOBAL]

I wud buy six f35 lightning 2

[@Berserkr01]

@@SPEARHEADGLOBAL It's four times more expensive (under $80 million vs under $20 million)!

[@davidbergaragonzalez5653]

It's very beautiful.

[@ubaldoenilsonlopezramirez4558]

We need this airplane in El Salvador

[@westprogamer3294]

That Senior Demo Pilot should also be made head of sales. I was almost convinced to buy a squadron for my armchair airforce.

[@ayzzya7124]

Hope you can offer this to Philippines dept. of National Defense

[@andrekuhr8036]

Gee, IAM very impressed with this plane .xxx

[@flighttherapybullisticfpv133]

Ok, hear me out here... I was thinking at first "man it would be cool if this plane had an integrated gun like the A-10, so it could drop down and engage ground targets in emergency CAS operations from an ISR role"... but then after reading about the multiple nose bays on the plane for integration of AESA, EO, Tpod, etc. and how heavy the GAU-30 is in the A-10. I thought "When are we going to see a plane with a smaller caliber (maybe 20mm) fully gimballed auto-cannon in the nose/belly." Imagine a plane like the Scorpion, outfitted with no ordnance, flying an ISR mission, is vectored to an area where ground troops are in trouble. Carrying its EW payloads on the wings, and a radar in the nose, the scorpion could deploy a gimballed autocannon, drop down low and provide accurate fire on a a location designated by a JTAC or the WSO.... I cant stop thinking about this idea now! lol

[@RedXlV]

If you want something smaller and lighter than the A-10 but still having a cannon that can easily pierce the roof of a tank, the answer isn't smaller caliber but fewer barrels. The Bushmaster II chain gun and Oerlikon KCA revolver cannon both fire the same 30x173mm round as the GAU-8/A. While the rate of fire is much lower, I would think that since targeting systems have so vastly improved, you don't necessary need as many shots to kill a tank. The KCA was actually tested by the Air Force 50 years ago as the GAU-9, as a backup weapon for the A-10 in case the GAU-8 got cancelled. (In which case two GAU-9s would've mounted side by side in the nose.)

[@Youtuberoparaelpueblo]

They have found a buyer El Salvador is going to buy it, I think it will work well for us🎉🎉🎉

[@michaelmiklosofficial]

Amazing aircraft and it has back up cables

[@vicheakeng6894]

Wow. Looks like a big drone

[@braincraver1]

Looks like someone is trying to revive the Northrop YA-9

[@lostcreek163]

The YA-9 was basically an A-10 so not in the same ball park as these lite weight wanta be fighters, notice they don't even mention troop close air!

[@tomcleverley18]

Civilian contractors will know that cost control is important and that it'll be dependable too

[@ramdapar5025]

wow! very beautiful aircraft,it is very fit&suitable for our Mother Land Armed Forces specially Philippine Air Force,please contact asap our goverment&please convince them to buy your very beutiful aircraft please.

[@karlzbatiao177]

not bad as a trainer and light attack. each plane cost around 20m$ mura but yak 130 from russia is better. mas mura around (15M$), mas mabilis at mac .08 and can carry more payload.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

you have A29 now

[@ramdapar5025]

@@defencebangladesh4068 yes we had already Sir but it is not enough coz the treat of our Beloved Mother Land Philippines is always their Sir both internal&external thats why we need to build up a massive military strengh&power in bothh land,sea&air to defend our Beloved Mother Land Philippines:-)

[@kunnu6752]

@@ramdapar5025 Our plan is to buy MRF. We already have super tucano to compensate for the internal conflict which is much cost effective than scorpion and we also Kai FA50 to patrol EEZ. What we need now is F-16 viper against superior external threat.

[@hadleymanmusic]

Yes in trained squads kickass

[@markangelo8630]

how i wish our government will consider in procuring this plane aside from a-29 tucano that we had already ordered from brasil.. it fits in our country to protect our territory and fighting terrorists insurgencies in the different parts of provinces in my country philippines.

[@thyssenheinel6507]

Why use jets if you are just dealing with people wielding small arms fire?

[@utkarshg.bharti9714]

The KAI A-50 is a superb light attack jet that PhAF already has. It has the pedigree of the multirole F-16 at a much lower operating cost base. You would be better off in investing in a 2-platform system: Tucanos for CI/CAS roles and A-50s for full-scale air strikes.

[@bnprecords6564]

Built By The Best 💪🏽 #Kansasmade

[@warblerblue]

Could use this for Coastal Air Defense.

[@TrangleC]

I find it quite logical that this never went anywhere. It might be cheaper to operate than a A-10, but other than that offers barely any advantages over the system it might have replaced. The biggest issue is that it pretty much needs long and well maintained runways to operate from, which is one of the reasons why the A-10 doesn't work in its intended role anymore.

[@sim.frischh9781]

Is the sixth generation fighter no longer high-tech stealth, but instead cost efficiency orientated? No question, this plane is no opponent for a F-22, but it IS more than enough for a wide variety of other tasks for which the Raptor would be complete overkill.

[@anarchyandempires5452]

This ain't a fighter, it's a light Attack jet, imagine an A-10 but without the 30mm.

[@wyattpeterson6286]

Sim. Frischh of course. Why use a multi million dollar fighter jet for ground attack when we could use multiple cheaper jets for the same price.

[@sniper.93c14]

Not quite the cost efficient jets are likely to be UCAVs like larger and evolved versions of the Kratos drone or Boeing’s Loyal Wingman

[@paulbaker9277]

I think it would be great for smaller nations that are allied with you so they can use them as coastal patrol aircraft as spotters and having the ability to defend it s self depends what you place on them . lets say you have some Island nations working with you , in the overall picture , they place less stress on the major fighters doing patrolling and integrate between them and their big brothers are ready to take over. The smaller aircraft can also loiter longer... they could place missile pods or even some larger ordnance and it is quicker than a helicopter and maybe better in some rolls or using a combination them, and that little jet engine can move a little quicker and it easy to get parts for them . But people you know what....no one would not do that because their is not enough money for them, if one day the shit hits the fan, countries will be raiding the bone yards to fly any thing even if it a one way trip.

[@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736]

For that generally it's better to use a turbo prop since they use even less fuel than a turbo fan engine

[@Retroscoop]

6 years laters and no customers yet. Which plane was it supposed to replace in fact ? I now see folks explaining it could replace the aging A 10, but this is a 2 seater and not sure if it is as robust as the A 10....

[@truckert9729]

Its no A-10, but it would be a great addition to the CAS fleet.

[@OfficerAdamTV]

There is no other aircraft built in the world like the A10 that keeps the troops on the ground safe and the pilots protected no matter what generation jet fighter they build

[@thethirdman225]

It was the first aircraft to be dropped from the program.

[@tommytube268]

Light defense aircraft might be great but, that still leaves the A10 as an extremely capable safe and effective for dangerous sorties.

[@Olive_Chap]

This is how future would be..

[@enriquelorenzo3406]

is it the new model f5 jet?😮🇵🇭

[@esotericyetti327]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Keep the A-10 alive!

[@blusharx]

should be interesting to see this Jet in fight with a F16 or Mig-29. I think the Textron is more reliable to attack enemies on the ground

[@christopherkarlduff1689]

RC Menzinger Agrar&Bau it's not a dog fight aircraft. This is a loiter aircraft or air to ground defense. If another attack aircraft were to engage this bird, the scorpion would lose.

[@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736]

@@christopherkarlduff1689 considering turbo fans are really not good for CAS since they are to fast(A-10 has its cannon to compensate the speed), and every plane has access to the AIM-9X sidewinder heat seeker scorpion would be really screwed

[@FusionAero]

Russia's 15 million-per-copy YAK-130 "Mitten" mini-jet is the birb it will have to beat. Located dead center in the very same saturated market we're aiming for. I hope the Scorp at least has proper radar-directed gun sights for air-to-air, along with missile countermeasures, because even if it never goes beyond mock combat and training maneuvers, a showdown is inevitable.

[@emmanuelgraphic22]

Not sure about that wing design though....maybe a little sweep, wider surface perhaps...

[@kurzwhale]

But does this have a titanium tub and a triple redundant system?

[@kathrynck]

Sometimes you just need something that can fly higher & faster than an attack helicopter to drop a couple bombs on a poorly equipped ground force. If they do buy it, it'll basically replace the A-10. Mind you the A-10 is "better"... but it's gun tends to slowly destroy it's airframe with recoil. So A-10's can't be used forever like the B-52.

[@A-G-F-]

It looks good

[@demetriusbrown9028]

Now make this a little more heavier with matey a nice chain gun, with light attack missles, you may have something

[@manuelmoscoso1065]

Talvez sea mejor para el salvador el Escorpión que el pampa III ...por los sensores que lleva los misiles guiados ...la velocidad es igual creo yo en ambos aviones....aunque con 20 millones se podrá comprar otro que sea más veloz?

[@verdaderopatriotista1824]

Lo qué tiene el Scorpion es qué todavía esta en desarrollo, su avance a ido mejorando por el tiempo, su producción sigue pero no tiene luz verde para exportarlo para sus usuarios interesados entre ellos El Salvador, Éste avión estando en desarrollo ha superado en algunos aspectos al Pampa, qué nisiquiera ha sido exportado a un país durante su travesía para sugerir ese avión a la FAS, El Scorpion fue el único avión de ataque ligero aprobado e interesado por los altos mandos de la Fuerza Aérea Salvadoreña, Otra opción qué tendría El Salvador de $20 millones sería el italiano Aermacchi M-346, Esos 2 aviones son las mejores opciones para la defensa de la Fuerza Aérea Salvadoreña.

[@jack4683]

It should be a very great training aircraft and ground attack ,I think out country (Taiwan) need some , three days ago our one of pilot die because one of old F5e fighter malfunction , Taiwanese Air Forces use these F5e as highest training aircraft , but we cant get any components supply to maintain our F5e , scorpion seen a great option to replace these old F5e , really

[@skenzyme81]

This plane can replace most of what the A-10 does as well. Cheap guided 2.75” rockets make the Scorpion just as effective for ground support in low-threat environments. No need for a big gun anymore.

[@thesirmaddog8209]

Not really replace, but take a load off

[@skenzyme81]

Well, you're right of course, but those A-10s aren't getting any younger. The remaining flight hours on those airframes need to be conserved as much as possible. Sadly, a true heavyweight replacement for the A-10 is nowhere in sight. With their control latency, drones just can't provide the kind CAS our soldiers need.

[@thesirmaddog8209]

Yes the A-10 will have to be replaced or rebuilt... Which I would like to see them rebuild them... Put new updated engines, and avionics

[@cosmicbro1973]

The Sirmaddog A-10 Super Warthog, saw a concept that looked badass

[@jacksparrow6218]

They thought guns were obsolete with the Phantom back during Vietnam. They were wrong.

[@lolo-san8818]

These kinds of aircrafts are ideal for smaller and less powerful nations that are looking for an affordable option. Sadly, my country went for the A29 Tucano to replace the OV10. 😅

[@wanto4279]

Malaysia should have this planes..

[@marvinhate5820]

Hope the Philippine Airforce acquire this aircraft for CAS and COIN missions

[@thetreblerebel]

Looks like the Su25 and the FA18, and the A10 had a three way baby

[@nightwing.3378]

Only 20 Mil damn.

[@billspafford8305]

I think they should change the wings on it

[@georgiesonymusic675]

Which customers? From the arm forces?

[@zabaleta66]

What a pity this wasn't picked up by air forces.

[@iycephoenixx4249]

I hope it gets contracts

[@andysouth7701]

malaysian air force searching for lca,bajet for 2021 approve..i like textron airland scorpion

[@superduper1917]

This should be the Future of US ARMY Aviation! P.S. Dont give me that dead beat failing no fixed wing B.S. Your fired!

[@stankygeorge]

For ten millions dollars (armed) and one thousand dollars per hour operation cost, that old crop duster, with its butt stupid technology plus ten hours loitering time, will be the aircraft to beat! If I was running the military budget, the crop duster is what I would give the Army and Marines!

[@kenet71]

Philippines would need a squadron or two

[@flowdog6585]

hello from philippined

[@flowdog6585]

i think they would stick to kai50 because so it would be easy to maintain because of having one supplier

[@FloridaManMatty]

If only they had been able to design a prettier wing. I know that’s such a minor quibble as this is most definitely a VERY capable airplane. I’m just antiquated in my belief that the prettier and airplane is, the more capable it is. I do love the Scorpion, but that straight wing just makes it look like everyone who engineered the project got fired on wing day and Textron outsourced that last bit to a committee overseas.

[@chocol8pooh130]

Bring back the A-1 Skyraider! Sandy low lead this is Cole 505

[@maximilliangenius5572]

They could redevelop that airframe... It was a bad MF!

[@edwardfletcher7790]

It only has a 50cal cannon ? Is the cockpit even armoured like the A-10 ? The engines are far too low for dirt runways.

[@gbdb1997]

It actually lands and takes off regularly from dirt runways, while it was still moving

[@astrox9097]

Its could!

[@martentrudeau6948]

The Scorpion can never be an A-10 light version, the pilot and crew are not armor protected to enemy fire, and the engines and intakes are low and restrict under wing hard point for weapons. Where as the A-10 engines are mounted high in the back protected by armor. The overall design of a new light version of a CAS aircraft should be modeled after the A-10 because of its intelligent and simple design. The Scorpion, and the Super Tucano are not designed that way, they are like the a patrol cars in the air armed with machine guns, bombs and missiles.

[@grumpyjumper3801]

Marten Trudeau Good point, I hadn't considered engine position as a survivability factor.

[@michaelalexander3078]

Marten Trudeau I need to say for the everyone who may possibly seriously that you're full of rubbish and what you wrote is nonsense.

[@jjtomecek1623]

The Scorpion and Super Tucano aren't meant to entirely replace the A10, they're meant to just replace the A10's role in the middle East against terrorist. They're designed for combat were the enemy will have minimal anti air capabilities, if any at all. And for that, the super Tucano and scorpion are perfect. The hard points are fine, at least for the super Tucano. You can find plenty of pictures of a super Tucano that has gun pods, missiles, and bombs on it. It may just be a "patrol car" with wings, but you don't need a flying tank to fight minimally armored terrorist. The A10 is just too expensive for something that is an unnecessary overkill. Like I mentioned earlier, however, the A10 is still staying in service, and it will be for quite a while, because should the enemy have AA or a tank, that's what you'll want out there

[@dfwai7589]

@@michaelalexander3078 no he lists a lot of good points. A single good .50 burst would rip this thing open. It's engines are large, unarmored, and do absolutely take up space for weapon hard points. The .50 cal mounts are hilarious under powered. Machine guns suck for air to air and suck for fast mover CAS. They work on helos because a helicopter has a stable firing platform close to the ground where a well trained gunner can accurately dumb lead. Don't get me wrong, this thing shows promise, but only in low intensity conflict, with minimal possiblity of AAA response or flankers

[@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736]

@bojo perez that's the probable reason why the scorpion was the first light attack craft to be eliminated, since MANPADs can't lock on turbo props

[@statsredner9399]

It won't last as long as the big battle eagle would put the too of them on a mission that would be as big as a 3 mile long enemies ground a field between mountains being shot at from both sides which one would make back to bace . And wich one would do the most damage to enemie grounds

[@robbybee70]

I mean there was already a Scorpion plane....dunno how I feel about reusing the name

[@robbybee70]

having said that it seeems quite cool

[@jamersonjaminho6677]

Brazil ....tucano...my good

[@CarlosMorales-on1hq]

look like a mini f14 tomcat the back!!

[@marksucker-berg7170]

Indonesia need this for patrol island to island

[@marksucker-berg7170]

I think

[@peerfunk]

the body kind of reminds me of the me262

[@Fugettaboutit]

Sounds like a manned attack drone.....which is excellent.

[@salinora0]

So an attack plane?

[@Fugettaboutit]

@@salinora0 I was referring to its loitering and surveillance/reconnaissance capability.

[@dat8r1]

A-10 isn't replace by any jet . It's the Superpower for ground attack and support groups ! In another hand usa has already F16 for high altitude ground attack and high speed attack jet . If you talk about mow jet ground attack for poor countries , it's another problem. If Usa will let down A-10 i am sure than a lot of countries would like to buy it for second hand . India , Australia , France etc...

[@phairecouchpotato3912]

SOMEONE PLEASE ADD THIS TO ARMA 3!!! 😭

[@iycephoenixx4249]

Ikr??? I was thinking AC7, but A3 would be better

[@generalrendar7290]

This should replace the A-10 warthog.

[@bwnrecluse1417]

No armor to protect the pilots from ground fire.

[@ctskidoo]

Keep the A 10

[@sergiogutierrez4636]

lástima que no lo traducen estaría interesante poder contar con este avion en mi País que la fuerza aerea está arruinada

[@РенатДжумабеков-д2ю]

Это реактивный супер тукано?

[@michaelgormel4130]

Where is the damn Vulcan?

[@YanuarSIPMM]

I think can, use F-107 Engine

[@karlzbatiao177]

cute plane but yak-130 is better and faster overall. but both are good as light attack/trainers.

[@luarbiasawaras8700]

Even Korea and turkey building supersonic jet for training, Cessna what are you doing ?

[@the5gen]

Different markets, this aircraft is positioned as a lower cost manned ISR/surveillance platform.

[@luarbiasawaras8700]

@@the5gen ita a difficult market, turboprops are cheaper and UAV even cheaper.

[@LuizSMatos-dr9tz]

For a light ground attacker the A29 Super Tucano is a much better option. It is cheaper and easier to maintain. The cost of 1 hour in the air is a fraction of any jet plane. And it is a combat tested airplane in many diferent scenarios from Colombia to Afheganistan. It is also used by severa Ari Forces including the RAF so you won't have problems with spare parts. And in adition when the time came to replace them it will be easier to find buyers.

[@tetraxis3011]

And i believe it has 2 .50 cal machine guns as opposed to the Scorpions 1.

[@tylercat1437]

Where's the gun? If they are replacing the A 10. No gun like the A 10 bad move .

[@tetraxis3011]

There doesn’t seem to be much of a need for such a powerful gun anymore.

[@debbies3763]

LOOKS LIKE A MINI F-14 TOMCAT.

[@demetriusbrown9028]

Bring back the A-29 Tiger Shark

[@tetraxis3011]

F-20 Tigershark*

[@nuruddinshahkamil3889]

Convert this into UAV, then it will make sense maybe, for the u.s government

[@Amin4831]

Donate 1200 of these to afghan airforce and watch the world change for the better

[@oscarmelgar4164]

The problem with American military industry FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY VIEW is the US government can intervene at anytime they feel to SUSPEND any sales of military weapons , maintenance and supplies for any political reasons ( with or without validation) l would rather do business with a country that DOES NOT NEED the ok from the US. Israel, Russia, Brasil ???

[@SPak-rt2gb]

Could of been a trainer aircraft but no they had to build one from scratch

[@tompalmer5986]

I've seen a three barreled .50 several times on other sites. Maybe they could put one or two of these on a Scorpion, or put a single six barreled .50 gatling gun on it.

[@krazzielaosboi]

Need to make it faster

[@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736]

Make it faster so you have even less time to fire? What?

[@Pvt_Wade]

@@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736 lololoollllll so u can get to the target faster cuz u know u always can slowdown 🤡

[@toreh8884]

Cocok utk pengintai, pengawar, pembunuh pelanggar. Iperasi wilayah darat, sedikit lau.... + dukungan choper + TNI. Unit + biaya operasi murah & dpt terbang rendah. 🦅🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@tullynona2750]

Defend coastal or cities....ready to fight

[@leonardwright4243]

It look a bit like a Sukhoi 25 frogfoot

[@murrymirage5904]

The Yak 130 and BAE Hawk are better proven alternatives. Countries will see the twin engine design as more expensive maintenance heavy.

[@notacommie7089]

The A-10 costs just under half per unit, costs half per flight hour, is cheaper to maintain, and is barely slower

[@c.e.kestner4051]

It's just the Pentagon jackoffs wanting to advance their careers with new "gee whiz" toys. Sort of like the idea to replace Hueys.

[@notacommie7089]

@@c.e.kestner4051 yeah seriously

[@wayneericksen5374]

It cost $18.8 million per A-10 plane in the mid-late 70s dollars, not today dollars, to build.. An A-10 costs $6,273 per hour compared to the Textron Scorpian $3000 per hour to fly.. $1,000,000 in 1976 is equivalent to $4,526,720.72 today. So a new A-10 today would cost at least $85 million per plane based on the 1976 cost of $18.8 million per plane, but probably more. So $20 million for a Textron Scorpion is relatively inexpensive. Keaton Smith, please get your facts correct. I got the facts with multiple web searches.

[@iwangmail]

for patrol teritory land and sea very good, cheap operasional.

[@sengwesetogile6054]

the should probably market these to African countries and other third world countries..Botswana,is in the process of buying 13 Saab Jas39 grippens for $1.2billion..they could get 60 of these .LOL

[@saltymonke3682]

actually Nigerian AF is interested on this jet

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I Know Mexico and Canada where both planning to get a dozen or so of the AO-X, so let's see if this one can win the competition.

[@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736]

@@anarchyandempires5452 actually when you wrote your comment the competition had already ended, the A-29 won after Beechcraft removed the AT-6 Wolverine from the competition, the Scorpion was the first to be eliminated, since a dual engine turbo fan is not the best choice to be used against insurgents

[@anarchyandempires5452]

@@pedrootavioazevedodaroz1736 I'm not really against the A-26, I just prefer the name "Wolverine" but hey the A-26 is a pretty good Bird, I hope it serves our Military well and burns fear deep into the soul of our enemies.

[@bigemugamer]

Quite an interesting and somewhat awkward looking bird. =/

[@DrissB-og6sc]

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[@manuelmoscoso1065]

Se mira lento ,con solo que vuel igual o más rápido que los dragonfly de El Salvador...es mejor en los sensores que lleva y los misiles o cohetes que lleva

[@dipsyet101]

Finally 3rd world countries will be able to have a decent airforce.

[@Gkucuk1215]

It kind of looks like an f14...

[@edl617]

The American Air Force is too stupid to buy something so simple and so Versatile. We could be a coin aircraft you could be a close air support aircraft it could be a trainer trainer be a tactical reconnaissance aircraft. $20 million in Pop and you could buy 2000 of these

[@hadleymanmusic]

Put some people to work build some U.S squadrons first