Could This Be The Best Virtual Piano Collection? | Pianoteq 8 From Modartt

[@EricLaermans]

One executable, only 48.1 MB … that is incredible for those beautifully molded sounds. Impressive!

[@theaudioeng]

That's physical modelling for you!! ...... however, you do therefore need to be very conscious of CPU overhead to ensure your PC/Mac set-up can crunch the numbers hyper fast on the fly, though most modern computer DAW stations will eat this still for breakfast 😀 👍🎹🎵🎶💥🍻

[@ninobeatz_iOS]

Pianoteq 8 now available on iOS is what brought me to this marvelous channel!! Great breakdown 👏🏾👏🏾

[@PraiseTracks]

Yes, I have been playing with the iOS version and it is amazing that it works so well on my 9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen. I am hoping to check it out on the next livestream. Thanks so much for your very kind support. Joyfully!🎹

[@NatJSBelza]

Great playing as usual. I'm running pianoteq on my old iPhone 7 as dedicated keyboard module. Along with Ravenscroft. It's amazing how these devices can handle these virtual instruments with ease. Latency is probably about 8ms, give or take. It's almost non-existent. Such joy to play.

[@PraiseTracks]

The first time I pulled up the Ravenscroft on an older iPhone I knew things had changed. Then fast forward to now having Pianoteq running on a mobile device and it frankly blows me away. Thanks so much for watching and the kind encouragement. Who knows what is waiting just around the corner! Joyfully yours. 🎹🙏

[@theaudioeng]

IK, it's insane really when you think of it !! 🤯

[@simbaking6338]

Am sold on Pianoteq 8....very impressive...nice playing also.

[@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy]

I'm a guitar player and I had to focus to hear the differences between the classical guitar sound and what an actual classical guitar sounds like. That's remarkable. You can still hear differences, especially when you were just playing single note melodies, but I would not notice that this was a VST of a classical guitar if I'd just heard it on the radio or something. Wow! Beautiful playing and great demo, too.

[@PASHKULI]

With Pianoteq you can still hear the "digital" whistling resonance on some of the notes. It has been the major hallmark of digital modelling of pianos.

[@andrerussouw2124]

Wow I have just been invited to dreamworld. Absolutely an inspirational tool. André SA

[@heavylightpiano]

You are a legend for this amazing overview. Sold me on this great vst :) subbed for more great content!

[@cremersalex]

The nylon guitar impressed me the most. I didn't expect that.

[@fortissimoX]

Wow! I'm impressed both by Pianoteq and your playing. Thank you very much for this demo! Btw, it would be interesting to play guitar using Triple Play or some other guitar to MIDI technology.

[@arthurmee]

I'm a big fan of programmatically generated sound instrument plugins . . . .such a small footprint and such wonderful sounds. None of those gigabytes of samples.

[@jeffshirkey3085]

I could listen to you play all day.

[@kaff567]

You are absolutely incredible. Loved your video. Wow

[@ChokDK-bryllupsmusik-duo]

With the mikes close(-ish) this VST got something no other VST has. I can't explain it other than it sounds like it's real strings reacting to eachother on longer notes.. Heard your IOS demo and I think I will never use the 3.5 mm output again :D The noise... but also the piano itself sounded sharp and edgy (even I enjoyed your amazing demo skills as always of course) :D I hope it's the output "situation" alone that makes it sound like that. Love and piece

[@PraiseTracks]

Yeah, this one took me a little by surprise. What a wonderful gift to all of us.

[@Music-tg5is]

Beautiful playing and demonstration. If I didn't already own Pianoteq Studio Bundle, I would have done so after listening to this. 🎶🙂

[@PraiseTracks]

Thank you so much for the kind encouragement. This is such a significant update and I look forward to diving in deeper with sone of the piano models. Joyfully!🎹

[@revp01]

Simeon. Well done. Thanks for doing this. Excited about this upgrade. I’ve been with pianoteq since V5. Just read that iOS version for Pianoteq8 is on the way soon. Yes. I’ve found a way to incorporate their piano models into my main music sets. My favorites are Steingraeber, Bechstein, & Petrof. With a bit of tweaking, I’ve been really happy.

[@XSFlanger]

This is some next generation processing done here on the fly. I'd seriously consider purchasing this software, if music was my bread and butter :)

[@AlbertWeijers]

I somehow got an upgrade from 7.5 to 8 without paying (stage). Thank you Modartt. I first installed the demo-version, then I wanted to pay for the upgrade, but they said you already have 8... so then I could dowload 8 for free.

[@Fastvoice]

The point is not that you already had the v8 demo. The point is that you most likely bought the v7 after november, 1st, of 2021. Then you get the v8 for free.

[@AlbertWeijers]

@@Fastvoice That is right! I bought it early 2022, great service Modartt!

[@revp01]

As always. Killing it.

[@JamesMyddelton]

Thanks Simeon, I've been after this for a few years, now that the new version is out & at a discount I couldn't resist purchasing this. As ever your review was very detailed & informational, many thanks.

[@PraiseTracks]

James, thank you so much for the kind words, they are much appreciated. Pianoteq in my opinion keeps refining and improving their technology, taking small but significant steps in this amazing instrument space. Joyfully!🎹

[@boboscurse4130]

Where can I learn gospel piano?!? Also, you have an awesome radio voice.

[@heisenbergwalter3363]

there are tons of tutorials on youtube.....

[@StefaanHimpe]

I've been running pianoteq on an ODROID N2+ single board computer since last summer and I use an android tablet with VNC to change pianoteq parameters via WIFI. Even though these single boad computers are pretty inexpensive and small, Pianoteq 8 (as well as 7) runs on it like a charm. I'll have to admit that I find some controls (like the condition slider) difficult to manipulate on the tablet because it's displayed near the bottom where the tablet OS reacts to swipes and clicks by displaying OS related stuff.

[@pianochad]

I was unsure about buying Pianoteq since it's quite expensive but this video convinced me. I absolutely love the "Steinway B Gentle" but almost every preset sounds incredible.

[@tamezzodiac2862]

How much did u spend?

[@pianochad]

@@tamezzodiac2862 139€

[@calderadelescocia7325]

Thank you co much Simeon for this comprehensive review. What a great piece of software this is. Modartt dominates the top position in the virtual modeling market. And as always... very nice keyboard playing. Could not do it any better man!!

[@PraiseTracks]

Thank you Caldera, the kindness is so appreciated.

[@edrumsense]

14:38 iOS version is already here... And you can use the same license, Sadly for me it's too expensive for me.

[@PraiseTracks]

Yes, I have been able to try this and it is amazing to have this functionality on the iPad.

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

Did you notice the little Favourites Star in the precept selection panel? You right-click to see your favourites.

[@PraiseTracks]

I missed that and will have to go back and check it out. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!🎹

[@parkerchace]

Oooo!!!! That Wurli sounds nice! Much better than 6 and 7

[@PraiseTracks]

Yep, they did a lot of work on revoking things along with adding some additional parameters to tweak. This is definitely a fantastic update. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!

[@maxime7382]

I always thought it would be a good idea if Pianoteq was developed for iOS, given its little size.

[@jsanchezguerra]

Great vídeo Simeón. Which are the 4 best piano pack for you in Pianotec? Thanks

[@andrelefebvre5453]

This is magnificent, Simeon... ♥ Could solve a lot of issues with live gigs and limited laptop power without sacrificing the tone. Now, Stage or Stanbdard... is the Black Friday question...

[@PraiseTracks]

If you are getting into Pianoteq for the first time, Standard would be my first choice at Black Friday ;^) You will start with a little bit more ahead of the game.

[@musicman102357]

Comparing the pianos with Vienna Symphonic Syncron and The Garritan Piano Vsts there is no comparison , PianoTeq is not in their league . However, for live performance because of the small footprint this would be a great option. Where I found Pianoteq to somewhat lack is for Classical Piano , which is why I use Vienna and Garitan in the first place. All other styes of music it is a great option. I will admit the modeling really is impressive. All the other instruments included are fantastic. I would definitely recommend this VST.

[@HienPham-tl5zh]

Can you share your setup? Keyboard, PC? Headphones? Mic? What to use for video recording?

[@dennisdimaandal1488]

WOW!

[@PraiseTracks]

Thanks Dennis.

[@bachcontra3606]

Pianoteq 8 is (almost) perfect.

[@DarrinNoNAME]

Hey, Just FYI, I think we talked about this in a different video but now, Ravel is available on Windows and I would love to hear you do a demo of that piano. (Now $49 on Universal Audio's Site through 06/30

[@PraiseTracks]

I just picked up the UA Producer Bundle that includes Ravel and their other keyboards so that I could test them more fully. I touched on Ravel about a year ago, here is the link: kzbin.infoAZ8oqOOpGGQ?si=8ivFt7_QRFgnCpOP Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more!

[@juanjaramillo1854]

Thank you for this video. Do you mind sharing your setup for this whole thing, especially settings to avoid latency? I'd love to get that info from you. Again, thank you.

[@TheIvoryman]

As of May 4, 2023 the full version of Pianoteq 8 has finally come to IOS. I sent an email to Modartt several years ago requesting an IOS version. I guess enough other musicians have done the same. This is wonderful news! Because this is the full, and not abbreviated version, it carries the same price as PC/Mac version. I have been checking out the demos since version 1. That was a long time ago. And, this is a program that has truly shown improvement in every updated version. This is a piano emulation, now at version 8, that really has no peer. This piano responds to your touch in the same way an acoustic piano does. It has no pre recorded samples. Although the Stage, Standard and Pro versions have the same presets, with the Standard and Pro versions you can customize many parameters of any of the pianos to be the exact Steinway, Bechstein or whatever piano that you wish.

[@PraiseTracks]

Thanks so much for letting me know about this! I just downloaded the iPad App and it does appear you can link your Modartt account to access your purchased pianos through the app. I am so excited to try this!

[@TheIvoryman]

@@PraiseTracks I truly enjoy all of your videos. Although I have downloaded the demos of previous Pianoteq versions for my laptop PC, I have not purchased. Because, I was hoping for an IOS version. From the start, way back, I knew Modartt had a good concept. Their approach just made sense. But, back then it needed quite a bit of refinement. When they updated it from version 6 to version 7 the sound just opened up and showed a really noticeable improvement. Now, with version 8 they have hit their mark!

[@PraiseTracks]

Yes, it will be amazing to get this plugged in. From what I am experiencing right now, it seems the prices for the desktop and iOS versions are the same, so I would probably purchase the piano models I was interested in as the desktop version as you could then have the best of both worlds. I am not sure how the process goes if you purchase on iOS first, if the desktop version is then licensed as well. We shall see!!!

[@TheIvoryman]

Simeon, since the IOS version seems to be the full featured piano sets that they offer for PC/Mac, and you can link your existing account, I would think it wouldn’t matter which one you purchased first.

[@richardpenrose1968]

I’m seriously impressed with how far Pianoteq has come over the years! I’ve been using NI Noire and Embertones Walker Concert D as my main goto pianos but after trying Pianoteq 8, this could potentially become my goto. I love how Pianoteq 8 sounds and feels to play and the additional instruments packs also sound great! To think this is capable from a 48mb file is simply astonishing! I have been close to buying Production Voices 300 Grand but am now torn between this and Pianoteq 8. What are your thoughts on Pianoteq 8 vs Production Voices 300 Grand?

[@andy-simmons]

I’m right there with you. I usually gravitate toward the Walker D or Noire, occasionally Keyscape. Personally I think 8 really closed the gap on timbre enough to make it my new favorite, and it’s just so playable. Also, using v8 as an effect really adds life to old sample libs like the Keyscape C7 by adding responsive string resonance.

[@richardpenrose1968]

@@andy-simmons Yes I agree, I also think the sound of v8 has closed the gap enough to possibly become my new favourite aswell! Pianoteq 8 is also by far the nicest to play. The other library that has impressed me from the various audio demos and reviews online is the Production Voices 300 Grand. I have been tempted to buy this one as from what I’ve heard so far I prefer it to both Noire and Embertones Walker Concert D. However, I’m now torn between this or picking up a few Pianoteq Add-ons. Whilst the Production Voices 300 Grand sounds very impressive, I feel like I will be getting more for my money with the Pianoteq Add-ons as with every update all the pianos keep on getting better! If v8 already sounds and plays this good then just imagine how good they could be by v9! Also, there will be an iOS version around Spring next year. My Yamaha CP88 stage piano has a built in audio interface so I could easily use Pianoteq live. I think I’m leaning towards investing more into the Pianoteq ecosystem.

[@andy-simmons]

@@richardpenrose1968 I may have to take another look at the PV300! We seem to have very similar taste… I also have the CP88 and have been really happy with it. This may or may not be relevant to your current situation, but I just contacted Modartt and requested a custom quote to upgrade from pro to the Studio bundle, and it was too good for me to pass up. Granted it was also during their current sale, so that may be part of it.

[@LINofficiel]

I love Noire and Walker... Do you prefer Pianoteq 8 now ??

[@richardpenrose1968]

@@LINofficiel Well it’s still kinda early days but I think I prefer Pianoteq 8 with the Steinway D addons on a couple of new jazz projects I’ve just started over my sample libraries. I also bought the Steinway B and Upright addons in the current sale. I also like the sound of the Production Voices 300 Grand in the various online demos and have a feeling I would also prefer this over my existing sample libraries but I’m not sure I want to buy another large sample library. I think investing into the Pianoteq ecosystem makes more sense for myself. The main V.xx updates happen around every 2 years and only cost $29. During that period, they update all the pianos and most of the other sounds and add new features which is a complete bargain! There's also going to be an iOS version which I'm planning to get to use with my CP88. In my opinion this offers great value for money compared to many of the large sample libraries.

[@vertigo0105]

Not close enough! I tried the v8 demo, but when playing it I found something was off & didn't sound right. It sounded synthesized/digital at times. I did not feel like I was playing an actual grand piano. The low mid range is where it sounds most fake, or at least not like a real grand...the area where you and others say it sounds warm and great, I found it sounded like I could program my DX7II synth to get the same piano sound in that range. Higher notes were better, and many of the lowest notes were ok, but all 88 notes lacked realism when hitting the keys the hardest I would normally play. Then I compared it directly to my Yamaha Montage 8 sample based CFX, C7 and Steinway grands, and it was night and day. The Sample based grands sounded & felt real.

[@janmichniak8914]

Cudo!!

[@rjw8631]

great demo simeon. one tiny quibble: yes, 48 megabytes is easy on RAM, but the physical modeling aspect requires a lot of CPU resources so if you are going to take an old Mac Book with Pianoteq 8 on the road, i would check it out fully before leaving. it's a tradeoff. sampled pianos use lots of RAM, but not so much CPU. rob

[@PraiseTracks]

Great points, I have several versions of Pianoteq going back as far as v5 and it is interesting how each perform. Thanks for watching.

[@ChristianJoannes]

Indeed this is a very valid point. I have noticed that the problem is not that much the CPU usage but how the software reacts when the core Pianoteq process is interrupted by another program generating a spike of CPU. I have noticed that you can hear crakles on a mac book if you play and scroll a score in preview at the same time. I have tried to tweak all parameters without success yet. If pianoteq runs on its own , it is very smoooth, but I know that users have reported that Preview application is a CPU killer , so I am looking for other way of bringing the score without pb.

[@encapsulatio]

Sorry buddy but I don't think you understand the difference between hard disk space and Ram. It's 48Mbytes of hard disk space.

[@cjm081]

Awesome playing. What's the piece at 36:00? Thank you.

[@PraiseTracks]

My pleasure. So, I listened to that section of the video and I am not playing anything in particular, just improvising as the sound carries me away. What I love about sharing these experiences with all of you is that they are truly sonic Joyful Journeys as I truly never know exactly where I might go. The sounds and textures inspire me with colors, scenes, moods, and emotions that come through the keys. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!

[@anderkeyboard]

Fantástic pianoteq 8

[@eutojazz]

8 certainly sounds less boxy = a definite improvement

[@PraiseTracks]

💯

[@andkwiat]

Great review as always. Thanks so much! What application are you using to display chords in your videos?

[@PraiseTracks]

Andreas, it is my pleasure. I use an app called MIDIculous. You can find a link in the video description for more information. Joyfully!🎹

[@andkwiat]

@@PraiseTracks spotted it, thanks so much!

[@hatsuneseisaku8542]

Really nice sound! What model of keyboard did you use in this video?

[@PraiseTracks]

Thanks so much for watching my friend, so glad you are enjoying the channel. My main keyboard controller is the Studiologic SL88: Grand, I really enjoy playing it. Joyfully!

[@hatsuneseisaku8542]

@@PraiseTracks Thank you for your information. Your sound is amazing. I will keep watching updated your channel.

[@PraiseTracks]

It is my pleasure. Joyfully!

[@emanuelerisso8560]

Your playing is awesome ! Thanks for sharing that. Can i ask if you have any kind of eq or compression in your chain 'cause i'm used to have my pt8 with ableton with a scarlet 2i2 interface, used to hear with my Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 ohm headphones or with monitor krk rokit 5...but i feel every sound a little bit nasal...less warm and bassy than yours...i play with a yamaha p45...thanks

[@PraiseTracks]

Emanuele, I make it a practice never to add any additional EQ, compression or other plugins that might change the sound of the virtual instrument that I am showcasing. When I do add anything, I always try and make a point to let everyone know, this is especially true when adding reverb or granular types of effects for special sound design or experimenting with things. The main issue with getting the right sound is working with your keyboard's velocity scaling. try adjusting the curves and see how it affects the sound. I would go to the extreme ends first to see how things respond and then you can dial things in a little more from there.

[@emanuelerisso8560]

@@PraiseTracks You were right...thanks for the advise...i definitely adjusted the velocity curve on my cheap P-45 and...the result is that ok, have something about 60/70 db of dynamic instead of 127 but now i can really play quite easily from pp to ff...so...you centred the issue...thanks again...i can practice now...waiting to buy a more advanced dp...I'm undecided between Roland HP-704 with PHA-50 action or Kawai CA-59 or Yamaha 745...i like more the Roland action...

[@sawry1]

Don't know if you realise that you can actually take the lid off by double clicking the top end of the lid. It becomes a series of dotted lines and it produces a brighter sound. You can do it on the upright too.

[@PraiseTracks]

Ooooo, thanks so much for that, yes, with the lid completely removed it would definitely make an additional difference. This is what the community is about, helping each other and zi really appreciate it. Stay Joyful!🎹

[@MaxRiley]

Hey Simeon, tonewise, is it worth to upgrade from v7 to v8? Thanks

[@PraiseTracks]

Max, with each update there are refinements. One thing you can try is downloading the trial version 8 as it could help give you an idea of the differences, you might be able to have them both installed to do a side by side. I would make sure you saved any special user presets just in case. Thanks for watching.

[@emiel333]

Pianoteq is coming to iOS. An iPhone 11 with A13 Bionic SoC is more than capable enough to run Pianoteq 8. For iPad to run Pianoteq 8, many iPad models will be supported, like iPad 9th gen, iPad 10th gen, iPad mini 6th gen, iPad Air 4th gen, iPad Air 5th gen, and iPad Pro 2018, iPad Pro 2020, iPad Pro 2021, iPad Pro 2022. Keep in mind that probably even older iPhone and iPad models will be supported next to the ones I described before. Modartt said the A13 Bionic SoC is more than capable, so I won’t be surprised if also the A12 Bionic (iPhone Xs, iPad mini 5, iPad Air 3) and the A11 Bionic (iPhone 8, iPhone X) will be supported. Can’t wait for the release of Pianoteq for iOS and iPadOS! Great ❤ video.

[@matseims]

Hi, can you or anyone else tell me in how far the basic acoustic piano sound here differs in quality depending on whether you purchase STAGE or STANDARD version ? I have no interest in addtional key instrument, guitar etc. just a very good basic acoustic piano hence my question. appreciate any answers, including from folks using the 7 versions.... cheers

[@PraiseTracks]

The quality of the models are the same, you are however able to do more customizations with the other versions. Also with the Stage version you can load presets of the piano models you do own from other users which is nice. You also have access to all of the free Pianoteq instruments with Stage as well. I hope that helps. Joyfully!🎹

[@matseims]

@@PraiseTracks thank you ever so much for such a prompt and lucid reply !!!

[@PraiseTracks]

My pleasure, I am always glad to help.

[@HienPham-tl5zh]

What is the best keyboard to use for pianoteq?

[@PraiseTracks]

In my personal experience, the Studiologic SL88: Grand has been superb. It has such a wide velocity range where you can get at the very softer velocity layers but also go all in if you want . I have had it going on three years and it has been a solid performer as I use it quite a bit during the week.

[@kwamevaughan]

Hiya, Thanks for this. Quick one... how do you display the cords on screen? Which VST are you using for this? Pianoteq doesn't capture all chords.

[@PraiseTracks]

Emmanuel, I am using an app from Gospel Musicians called MIDIculous, which is a very nice teaching tool and utility. The Pro version allows me to float the key and chord display and capture them as sources inside of OBS. I have a link in the description where you can find more information. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!

[@kwamevaughan]

@@PraiseTracks Great. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@Timrobrus]

Which controller are using using, the SL88 Grand or Studio?

[@PraiseTracks]

It is the Grand that features the slightly heavier wooden keys, I really enjoy using it as it gives you such a wide range of dynamics.

[@mariosandoval7541]

Simeon, this is very helpful and informative, thank you. Quick question for you, I know you have tested many plugins. Compared to Keyscape and NI Noire, do you consider this plugin on par, above or below those two? Thank you!

[@PraiseTracks]

I was not completely sold on Pianoteq totally replacing conventional sample libraries, UNTIL v8. This version really has me looking deeper into this as they really did such a great job refining things. The future looks even more interesting than ever. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!🎹

[@PraiseTracks]

A quick followup. So Keyscape and NOIRE have their unique character about them. Noire is like a set of musical colors on an artist’s palette where you can venture into some very beautiful places. Keyscape was produced so well from the perspective of a recording engineer where you can drop the pianos into a mix and they fit right in. Both of these instances take advantage of what I call the acoustic “X” factor. It is the physical space these instruments occupy that add a dimension that is not necessarily heard but felt. Pianoteq approaches what could be considered an “uncanny valley” of sorts where it is on the threshold and your brain is taking all of the input it is getting from the ears and trying to piece together exactly what might be going on. All of that to say, things are very exciting and I don’t expect them to slow down any time soon. 🤓

[@mariosandoval7541]

@@PraiseTracks This is great information. I’ve been looking for a piano that I could incorporate to my Ableton live rig on stage and I’ve been thinking on giving Pianoteq a chance. Thank you so much, you’re the best!

[@PraiseTracks]

Mario, it is my pleasure, thank you for the kind support. Joyfully!🎹

[@jeromejamies3641]

I compared v7 to v8 and v8 sounded brighter. If I wanted it to sound brighter I could use an eq. Facelift, guitar (optional) and more brightness do not inspire me to upgrade. Ep pianos still not good imo (in v8 even worse), as for sound, response and feel there are way better choices. Nice video btw

[@cdg39526]

How do you get the chords showing as you play like that?

[@PraiseTracks]

Hello Charlie, I use the application called MIDIculous from Gospel Musicians. You can find a link in the description with more information about it. Thanks for watching.

[@KeramidakisDimitris]

How does it play vs the vsl pianos ? I need something for solo piano recordings and wondering which work best for this ..thank you

[@PraiseTracks]

Since Pianoteq does not use samples there is more of an interaction. In the strings similar to an acoustic piano. There is a specific sound to Pianoteq because it is modeled. The VSL pianos have a tremendous amount of expression but since they are very complex samples instruments you might run into some performance issues as CPU and SSD access. It would be interesting to put the VSL and Pianoteq pianos side by side and see what happens. You can also download the Pianoteq demo to get a first hand listening experience. There are some limitations but possibly enough there to allow you to hear them in your workspace. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!🎹

[@JerryKMathew]

Can we get the backing track in the beginning ? Its really nice

[@PraiseTracks]

Absolutely, I have been enjoying the tracks from Dixx Music studio, here is their channel: youtube.com/@DixMusicStudio

[@carloslukather6658]

the standart package comes wit all this pianos?

[@PraiseTracks]

Each version of Pianoteq comes with a different number of piano models you can select. I was using the PRO version so I could have access to all of the piano models for the video. Thanks so much for watching.

[@HienPham-tl5zh]

Did you pay $900 for the Studio version ? Which instrument pack did you use for the Cello sound?

[@PraiseTracks]

No, Modartt was kind to supply me with a license in order for me to test and demonstrate the instruments on the channel. I will have to go back and see what you might have meant for the Cello sound. Thanks so much.

[@joyousstudio7813]

< 50 MB and includes 4 different pianos? 😱😱😱👍👍👍

[@joyousstudio7813]

I understand it now. Every sound is made by computer software, which models a physical piano using the 30+ parameters.

[@PraiseTracks]

Yep! All of the piano models are included, you have access to the ones you have unlocked. There are also a large collection of free piano models as well. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!🎹

[@CollectiveVoice]

greeting are you playing the stage, standard or pro version and what is the difference

[@PraiseTracks]

I was using the Pro Studio version. The only differences are in the amount of tweakability you have over the specific modeling aspects of the instruments, along with the initial number of instrument packs included. Thanks for watching.

[@lundsweden]

Is there really much difference between 7 & 8? I'm sick of upgrading every year!

[@PraiseTracks]

Andy, the update is subtle but continues to improve the overall quality of the models since they spent a great deal of time revolving them. There were also sone additions to the action section as well as the new sympathetic resonance nodules. One of the things you can do is download the demo which would not affect your current version and give it a try and see what you think. Thanks so much for watching.

[@lundsweden]

Actually I checked out the upgrade price, it's reasonable really. Looks much better, probably sounds better too!

[@ulysesdegilla8568]

Hi, if I buy the stage version what 2 instruments would you suggest. Planning to buy NI Grandeur, but having thoughts right now whether the Grandeur or the Pianoteq8. Your advise, please. Anyway, I will use the instruments for Church live setup. Thanks

[@IrminZ]

Rather download the demo, all the pianos are there minus a few missing notes. Play around with that. Personally, I like the NY and Hamburg Steinways, Steinway B, Bechstein and the Bluthner

[@Erainia]

Grandeur is a very dated VST now, I'd recommend shopping around a little more!

[@AlbertWeijers]

I have the stage version, with Steinway D (New York and Hamburg) and second the electric piano's, wurlitzer and Rhodes, also you can download for free the historic piano's and clavecimbels. And also so glockenspiel etc. All other piano's you can try also but some notes are missing.

[@PraiseTracks]

I would say the Steinway and Electric instrument packs would be where I would start as this gives you a good foundation with the possibilities. You could even layer them by running two instances of the player which should not be any additional performance hit. Thanks for watching.

[@VictorHuang88]

Bluthner and Steingraeber for me. Whatever instruments you like best in demo.

[@jazist7254]

If I try to buy this as an instrument for $50, I see the message (Requires Pianoteq 6.2 or higher). Does this mean I have to have the stage version first? And if I buy it just as an instrument, isn't miking included?

[@PraiseTracks]

This is a very good question. Before I try and answer, I will reach out to my friends at Modarrt and see what they say as I know this would also help other users. Stay tuned and thanks so much for watching.

[@PraiseTracks]

I was able to find your answer. You must start with a version of Pianoteq (Stage, Standard, or Pro). Each of these allow you to select a certain number of pianos to start. You can then add the additional pianos down the road as you like, so the additional pianos are like expansions. Each version of Pianoteq has the ability to try all of the pianos and instruments albeit in a limited way but it is available. I hope that helps and thanks again for watching.

[@jazist7254]

@@PraiseTracks If I got it right, I pay $40 more when I buy Stage and I can choose the 2 packs I want. And that includes miking and everything. Sounds good though, these are really good libraries. By the way, thank you very much. I like what you're doing, man.

[@PraiseTracks]

@jazist7254 Stage does NOT include mic adjustments, you need Standard for that. If you scroll down a bit from this page you can see how each version compares. www.modartt.com/pianoteq_overview With Standard you get to select three piano models to start.

[@joeschneider67]

Are you on window or Apple ?

[@PraiseTracks]

Windows 11, i9-9900k OC to 5ghz all cores, 64 gb ram.

[@joeschneider67]

@@PraiseTracks 👌..great. I don't know anything about apple. Now, how big is the plugin? How many G?

[@PraiseTracks]

That’s the thing Pianoteq is not G at all but a few megabytes. The key is that it is a modeling application that does not use any samples but each note is being generated in real time. Most recent processors handle things very well, it is very impressive at the capabilities.

[@ryanryan6207]

Does this need a DAW to use?

[@PraiseTracks]

Ryan, Pianoteq also features a stand alone version. One of the cool things is that it includes a retrospective recorder that listens to what you play and captures it. You can export those recordings as a MIDI file or it can render to an audio file.

[@ryanryan6207]

@@PraiseTracks, thanks.

[@PraiseTracks]

My pleasure. Joyfully!🎹

[@Czyszy]

Nope. They did not fix the synthetic, oddly metallic, plasticky not-very-realistic sound in version 8. :( I'm talking about the electric pianos. Surprisingly enough, the best Pianoteq library is the vibraphone! It's really good actually.

[@hmk8996]

There's very little sonic difference between 7 and 8.

[@lousyracuse]

Hey Simeon, Something you said in your review of Pianoteq bothered me. There HAS to be sample files for the VST somewhere, the package is more than just the exe file. How would it handle the additional content otherwise? Plus the samples have to take up much more space than even the most compressed EXE file contains. I've been a Windows user and beta tester for many years so I have a pretty good idea of what is going on inside Windows. Please check these folders on your computer and I'll bet you find the sample files it is using: %appdata% (may need to dig through multiple layers) VST folder (C:\program files\VST Plugins on my Windows 10 computer. YMMV.) My Documents (The wrong place to put them for a variety of reasons, but some vendors still do). C:\ProgramData (also the wrong place to put them IMHO). I could listen to you play all day! One year ago I was in the hospital for an 8-day stay battling Covid19. I don't know how many of your videos I saw during that time, but it was a LOT. When I finally got home the first thing I did was purchase Solid State Symphony after watching you play it and I have used it on many tracks. :) Stay Joyful, Lou

[@PraiseTracks]

Lou, I remember at one time, they might have used audio samples for some of the mechanical noises (pedal, dampers, key noises), I will definitely check it out further and update my info. I agree that Windows has a problem when developers scatter files and such in so many different places. My greatest joy is knowing that in some way the Joyful Journeys are not only technical but also share my genuine joy in finding inspiration in these instruments and hopefully in the process encourage, it is such a blessing to know that you found some of that here on the channel. Thank you for the continued and kind support. Joyfully!🎹

[@Eric-om2xs]

I'm not an expert in tech, so I don't know what files an exe needs in order to function, but I do know that Pianoteq does not use sample files of recorded sound. I think this is the main idea that Simeon wanted to convey. Yes there is data about each piano, the size, the materials, and the physical properties of those materials. But the sound is created by an algorithm using a physical model every time a note is pressed. Its kind of like a really advanced synthesizer that is designed to replicate the sound of an acoustic piano.

[@ChristianJoannes]

hello, no there is no sample at all. The various instruments and presets audio are built real time with different mathematical models. In a nutshell, a preset of a given instrument uses the core mathematical model for that instruments with adjusted parameters , a different instrument sound is built using different model. So the ~50 MB size is just the size required to contain core models. The parameters for each presets ( nksf files ) are stored in the libraries but are just like text files with parameter values ( on mac OS it is stored on library/Moddart/Pianoteq 8) . In fact , technically speaking the application requires 2x 50 MB 50 MB for the standalone application and 50 MB for the plugin when you select pianoteq as an instrument in your preferred DAW ( logic pro, pro tools or others) Hope it helps . @Simeon, thks for the nice video as always.

[@lousyracuse]

​ @ChristianJoannes I stand corrected. :) Thank you for clarifying. This being the case, your programmers have done an incredible job to pack that much power in such a small package. Amazing!

[@ChristianJoannes]

@@lousyracuse you are welcome ! There are not my developers . I’m just a user but I am a bit of a geek 😉

[@karliheinrich]

Chopin?

[@PraiseTracks]

You know, I am not sure. I have so many random melodies and musical memories floating around, I never know what might trigger one of them and this is what happens during these video playthroughs. I will hit on a particular tone or feel a certain connection with an instrument and it sort of takes on a life of its own. Thanks so much for watching. Joyfully!🎹

[@najinelson6742]

Disappointing Upgrade. All the morphing presets I saved in 7 sound terrible in 8. The sound seems to be more upfront but in an unpleasant way

[@PraiseTracks]

That doesn’t sound good. I would suggest you let Modartt know about your experience as I am sure they would be interested. Thanks for watching..

[@najinelson6742]

@@PraiseTracks well, I checked and think all they did was to boost the high mid frequencies to fake a kind of knew improved sound

[@najinelson6742]

Btw watchhed your Pianoteq 7 video and you performed better there, I think also the feel, response and playability in V8 has changed in a bad way, some parts in the current are played partially without lots of inspiration, rather sloppy. Generally your presentations are very good imo