Could this reusable metal wall be the 2x4 of the FUTURE?

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Belinda Carr

Belinda Carr

Күн бұрын

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@salimufari
@salimufari Жыл бұрын
I work in live theater & seeing deck cam locks used in home wall construction made me actually laugh out loud. Not because of the hardware but the irony of having used these cams for decades in scene building. They would truly benefit from alignment pins so the rotation of the cam doesn't misalign the joint.
@Common_Sense_fan
@Common_Sense_fan Жыл бұрын
I work in kwanstruczion and this is a fad. It will never be mainstream. These tools are being developed by people who are overthinking the solution. Seeing a robot screeding the wall Go me LOL cos who’s going to cover the service cost?
@CoryAlbrecht
@CoryAlbrecht Жыл бұрын
​@@Common_Sense_fanthe same way it gets paid for in any other industry that decides to use automation. The cost of a robot plus the cost of its servicing and maintenance is still less than the cost of the people it replaces.
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw Жыл бұрын
Was going to ask how often we plan on recycling our walls, but I guess in your case it would make a lot of sense.
@jon9103
@jon9103 Жыл бұрын
​@@Common_Sense_fanthe machines might not be cheap but humans are expensive.
@radiationroom
@radiationroom Жыл бұрын
I want this for my next house!
@mfs-ness
@mfs-ness Жыл бұрын
There's something about this vid that gives off a strong infomercial vibe.
@vink6764
@vink6764 Жыл бұрын
She's a fraud...very little experience...trying to get her channel going...dangerous and irresponsible to give advice on these topics when you don't know what you are doing
@tztz1949
@tztz1949 Жыл бұрын
As a contractor the cheapest wall is a steel stud system. This boutique system will work for displays, non permanent installations. Creative, but the trades in residential and large commercial will struggle with this economically. Great video and info!
@Helloverlord
@Helloverlord Жыл бұрын
I see it as good diy panels for tiny homes but too much steel thermal bridging put a shadow on energy efficiency. Looks like a overengineered solution for a problem that didn't exist.
@coolestrock2008
@coolestrock2008 Жыл бұрын
That is why i think they are marketing this for interior walls. Pretty sure they are aware of these limitations
@mojammer
@mojammer Жыл бұрын
My thought as well, the insulation value seems like a weak point. But should work great for interior walls in commercial spaces.
@kasparsjansons9220
@kasparsjansons9220 Жыл бұрын
@@coolestrock2008 No they're not, and I quote "Låda Cube creates customizable, sustainable architectural interior and exterior walls."
@walterrutherford8321
@walterrutherford8321 Жыл бұрын
I can see it for partitioning a large open space with temporary, non-loadbearing walls, but not much else.
@zapa1pnt
@zapa1pnt Жыл бұрын
This is good for commercial/retail/office spaces but not for homes. For homes you have prefab construction.
@fireofdestruction7753
@fireofdestruction7753 Жыл бұрын
I'd see more use for this in stadium events or civic centers where they need to change layouts frequently for different events, possibly even concerts when the venue is outside.
@BBQ1953
@BBQ1953 Жыл бұрын
Or kiosks for conventions, etc.? I would think the vendors then would just need customized skins with their logos and other information. Quick set up and take down would be the standard.
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, for something like that where interiors are constantly being changed for short term events, a facility where you can reasonably expect to be moving partitions around weekly or monthly.... well maybe. But it appears that this is being pitched as a product for more typical commercial buildings. A commercial tenant could be a tenant for 5-10 years, potentially with no change in their interior space partitioning. This is going to be a lot more expensive than metal studs and drywall, but let's set that aside, and imagine that you decide to invest in this system for a new tenant in your commercial space. 15 years down the road, the tenant moves out, new tenant moves in. New tenant has different space needs ... more and smaller rooms. OK, so you disassemble all the walls. Now you have raw materials showing 15 years of wear and tear, and you only have about 75% of what you need, because it takes more "cassettes" to make the same space into more smaller rooms. Thing is the regional distributor doesn't carry this brand any more because of (fill in whatever reason distributors change suppliers) and you need *this* brand of product, because any other brand is not going to be compatible with the proprietary connection system. So now you have to special order new panels from halfway across the country to get units compatible with your 15 year old stuff.
@zapa1pnt
@zapa1pnt Жыл бұрын
Those products and services already exist. It is quite a large industry.
@ernestorubio1295
@ernestorubio1295 Жыл бұрын
This is perfect for FEMA!! Can you imagine? set up a clinic or trasform a refuge. A stadium into a more private medical asistance area, or a hangar into temporary kitchen...
@loweryjk
@loweryjk Жыл бұрын
Everyone's a critic, but I think they're pretty cool. I'm sure there is plenty of room for improvement but I appreciate the 'question every aspect' approach they took which you highlighted. Thanks for sharing Belinda. Keep up the great work!
@1thusnelda
@1thusnelda Жыл бұрын
Decades ago there was a building trend for schools that used partitions instead of walls for the classrooms. The idea was to make it easy to adapt the classroom size to the number of students in locations where there were the population was ever-changing. It was an abject failure because the partitions did not absorb the noise, and you could hear everything that was going on in every classroom on the entire floor. This might solve that problem.
@akosyoutub
@akosyoutub Жыл бұрын
Certainly not, it is not suitable for any kind of soundproofing.
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments Жыл бұрын
I remember that in my elementary school.
@JarlBarbossa
@JarlBarbossa Жыл бұрын
There was a classroom like that at my school
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Our walls can currently achieve up to an STC (sound transfer class rating) of 45. Traditional stick built walls with roll insulation are typically a 35 STC. Blessings!
@kasparsjansons9220
@kasparsjansons9220 Жыл бұрын
@ Come on, don't need to spoon feed this marketing BS, In typical metal building construction values for STC range from a low of about 20 to a high of 55 depending on connections between 2 metal surfaces. You are comparing worst case scenario for stick buildings with best case scenario for metal construction. Everyone knows metal carries vibrations - sound. Everyone with eyes can see that in your product there are connections beween 2 metal surfaces without any vibration absorbant material between them unlike in sandwitch pannel constructions. Your construction has too many connection points and every one of them are potential points of sound leakage even with sound-proofing materials.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
When i saw the stacks of panels at 3:10 i immediately thought "it's a pile of garage doors!" 😅 I assembled acres of office cubicles back in the '80's. These partitions arent that different from that.
@btk1243
@btk1243 Жыл бұрын
Lemonade Stand -- My kids' lemonade sucks, but gosh darn they are gonna have the best Lemonade Stand on the block !
@drproton85
@drproton85 Жыл бұрын
Working in construction, there's not that much of a desire to demo a whole building and reconstruct it. I can't see this as popular as standard metal studs. Those framing guys work extremely fast. Perhaps for temporary construction this will have a purpose?
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
tose framing guys are usually working fast by chemical enhancement.
@ruben9912
@ruben9912 Жыл бұрын
I could see how a venue of some sort would like to have a reconfigurable interior. Even for a home owner that would be a nice touch. It's mostly about cost and availability. If someone shows up with these things at cost and at speed, I mean why the hell not at that point. It will take years but soon enough major players will be putting their money in it and through them it will start taking over sections of the market until it's a standard material. As someone also in the trades I don't mind the idea of switching over to smarter systems or letting a robot do a lot of serial work for me. In the end what matters is that the client still needs you to complete their vision and you keep up with the latest and greatest in boons to offer them.
@micmike
@micmike Жыл бұрын
Very interesting product. Thanks for sharing
@dashboarddevil4713
@dashboarddevil4713 Жыл бұрын
The cassettes look promising. However, there's got to be something better than MDF that isn't so susceptible to water damage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! We do offer a steel mid panel, which is our highest fire rated wall. Blessings!
@spinnetti
@spinnetti Жыл бұрын
makes sense for highly reconfigured commercial space, but clearly crazy expensive for home construction and its not going to give you a completely smooth drywall type finish due to the seams.
@RishabhX3576
@RishabhX3576 Жыл бұрын
The immediate con: no Wi-Fi or cell signal reception, as it is essentially a Faraday cage.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. We have never had a single complaint regarding WIFI or cell signal on any project that we have completed.
@SeattleCoorain
@SeattleCoorain Жыл бұрын
Yes, as you note, a metal Faraday cage would be bad for WiFi reception, however as LadaCube comment below implies, the metal enclosure isn't continuous to the grid scale smaller than the wavelength of WiFi signals, so the LadaCube partition walls are porous enough to pass WiFi just fine.
@Appytail
@Appytail Жыл бұрын
Cruize boats are returned in Italy (Carrara) once in a while to rebuild passengers rooms ... Much in that manner ...
@RRENH
@RRENH Жыл бұрын
Really neat. I love the interior finish panels. Very sleek and eliminates the need for a drywaller and painter. I've long wondered how to make interior drywall better, faster, and more modular. This might be it. An exterior wall version would be AWESOME if: 1. It meets shear requirements 2. Can keep all the insulation on the exterior (the Rockwood between metal frame isnt very effective) 3. they can include an exterior grade cladding panel similar to the interior panels you showed in the video. Thanks for sharing this. Exciting and promising tech.
@michaelduggan991
@michaelduggan991 Жыл бұрын
(oops)-- to hold up plastic panels. "the outer panels and the cleat system design need a lot of work"-- but this is the meat of the system, the part we live with, and o boy do they need a lot of work. How does a door trim or hang? Floor moulding? Hang a picture? Silly stuff.
Жыл бұрын
Great questions! We definitely are improving on our finishes and have more room for growth. Doors can be hung into any RO using our furring strips. Moulding can be added to any skins. Digital metal blocking can be added to any wall cassette and hangs up to 300lbs per screw. Blessings!
@michaelduggan991
@michaelduggan991 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Certainly the 2x4 of the future. That is a blessing.@
@MrSSSamuelll
@MrSSSamuelll Жыл бұрын
Great video, it was really interesting to watch! But I will have to share some criticism: At 4:08 you tell us "the panels can handle 300 pounds of stress" Where, how, in which direction, over what area,.. Come on what should anyone do with this information?
@KevinSheaO-
@KevinSheaO- Жыл бұрын
Love this for home and theater. Thanks for reporting on this
@Farreach
@Farreach Жыл бұрын
I honestly love the concept specially with building a work from home cubicle
@geronimo4511
@geronimo4511 Жыл бұрын
Pretty exciting development. I can see it catching on. It will only increase in take up as the market propels development.
@HrRezpatex
@HrRezpatex Жыл бұрын
As a person who live in Norway where there is extreme difference in temperatures between summer and winter, my first concern is how the material react to this. A second thing i would know, is what kind of sound it make. Old houses here make a lot of sound because the material move because of our temperature change and the change in material size because of this. Also as a Scandinavian, we know how finished product do not always fit together as it should, we have learned that from Ikea. With tree, that is easy to adjust even for a amateur, but with this metal walls, i am not sure how easy and flexible they are in that regard. Also, tree in it self is a good insulation material, metal is just cold. Also, when your house is ready, and you want to drill in the wall for thousand different reasons, it does not matter if you hit the house skeleton if it is made of tree, but that would become a issue with metal skeleton. Also, trees are more cheap to cut down then it is to get the same amount of metal. And at least here in Scandinavia we always plant new trees whenever we cut down a area of forest. This are the questions that pop up in my mind after 3 minutes.. I have build many buildings and restored old buildings from the 1800 and 1700 century, and that have been relatively easy because of the material they used. And i could have done that relatively easy even if there was not a single fabric on Earth to produce the material. In this case we get completely depended on multinational companies to do it for us. And as we know, they change their fashion from year to year, that way when the house is 30 years old or more and you maybe need to restore it, there will be no finished products to replace anything. It would be like trying to get parts for a car from 1930 that you want to restore.. But when this is said, i must point out that i would not use this for a private home that i hoped would last for generations, but i would not mind using it for a garage, a store house and things like that. And of course, the prize is always a big issue when deciding what to use. I have a friend that is planning to start production of mini houses, and for that purpose they might be a good idea, if the prize is right. (I do not see this silly mini houses as something that shall last for generations, but only as a solution for poor people or for hippies that fall for a "tiny house fashion". But i still think it is a good business idea, and i will show him this video so that he at least have one more option to choose from. One of the good things about this is that metal do not burn as easy as tree does.. 🙂
@kaneworsnop1007
@kaneworsnop1007 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know structural wood elements maintain their structural strength longer in fire than untreated metal. Wood charcoals on the outside surface which creates an insulation layer to the heart of the wood (Trees evolved natural fire resistance), steel doesn't need to get very hot before it begins to soften and lose it's strucural strength, which occurs far earlier in fires than for wood if it's unprotected. That's why steel column's and beams must either be boxed in with plasterboard or another fire resistant alternative, sprayed with concrete, or painted with intumescent paint.
@apex007
@apex007 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a commercial space product. I've seen similar full height cubicles. It's nice, but I don't see it as a novel product
@BBQ1953
@BBQ1953 Жыл бұрын
I could see a far more customizable work shop because of the modular electrical conduit link system. What shop owner, backyard projects guy or garage mechanic wouldn’t love to have outlets in 110 & 220 all over their shop. And the idea that I could design a shop to dimensions that suit my interests and needs instead of having to pick height, length, and width preselected in a catalogue of expensive options.
@benthurber5363
@benthurber5363 Жыл бұрын
Future of wall-building? Hardly. Only viable for spaces with false ceilings or open-air spaces within large buildings (generic office buildings, retail space in malls, event centers, changing rooms, seasonal kiosks, etc.) The dovetail panel clips would be all but useless in a traditional residential build, where you'd run into clearance issues with the overhead joists. Very rarely would any proposed "advantage" be realized in normal use. It has a niche and fills it, but crazy expensive if we're talking about more permanent layouts.
@christrites4251
@christrites4251 Жыл бұрын
This looks to be the future of building. Good video.
@craigkeller
@craigkeller Жыл бұрын
Thank you Belinda for sharing your research.
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 Жыл бұрын
I can see it being used for convention shows, office partitions, emergency partition of a large facility for temporary housing (after hurricanes, earthquakes etc). I can't see these as easily being used for main walls of housing or offices. If a panel can only hold up to 300lbs, you need a separate external structure. The load paths in a building are usually just too diverse to capture with a single product but it is worth at least trying to figure out a new mouse trap.
@matterhart
@matterhart Жыл бұрын
Office building conversion is big $$, but they'll also need to lobby for code changes to actually make it work.
@lauxmyth
@lauxmyth Жыл бұрын
Are you happy with a room without a roof? (I had to.) It is modular but only for interior walls so the building is still standard construction. As a locksmith, the security problems are instantly there to see.
@maxthelionxmax9220
@maxthelionxmax9220 Жыл бұрын
Fbr robotics and the haydrian x will sort out the exterior building of walls
@disqusrubbish5467
@disqusrubbish5467 Жыл бұрын
Hide the hex wrench...
Жыл бұрын
We provide top skin lockers that prevent the skins from being removed.
@Westcork-ul1ww
@Westcork-ul1ww Жыл бұрын
These look like a modern version of the modular walls we use in data centers. These environments don't like dust, so construction project needs to use panel systems to minimize damage to the data center hardware.
Жыл бұрын
We have a data cabinet system coming soon!
@urgo224
@urgo224 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that the steel is galvanized so you don't have to worry about rusting
Жыл бұрын
When you know you know! 😉
@Handyman247llc
@Handyman247llc Жыл бұрын
This was very informative and a interesting concept in modular construction, Thank you for the sharing.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@EngineerMikeF
@EngineerMikeF Жыл бұрын
I ransacked Lada Cube's website and couldn't find a design handbook. Seems ridiculous if they have such standardized skin, panel & corner parts & have been in business for a decade. I would think they'd be more clued in on how to get specified & sell more stuff.
@garywheeler7039
@garywheeler7039 Жыл бұрын
Trade secrets. As an architect I would like to see all the technical dimensions and such too.
@brodriguez11000
@brodriguez11000 Жыл бұрын
@@garywheeler7039 Incorporating into design software.
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
@@garywheeler7039 So, how do you get architects and engineers to design with your system, when you don't provide any information to do that?
@garywheeler7039
@garywheeler7039 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewalexander9492 : exactly. They only mention vague stuff like 8 foot tall panels, 4 feet wide and such. Little mention of how the bottom track and top track work, how we should stub out for electrical and such. Its a system without education of how it works mostly. They are so afraid of it being copied without payment.
@petergerdes1094
@petergerdes1094 Жыл бұрын
Very neat, but I'd be worried about lock-in. Many of the benefits of the system derive from reuse or reconfiguration and if the company making the product goes out of business or decides to stop supporting it then many of those advantages disappear (no longer able to buy new compatible pieces and no one looking to reuse).
@truthalonetriumphs6572
@truthalonetriumphs6572 Жыл бұрын
Have to open-source the design so anyone can make compatible components, assemblies
@hardwareful
@hardwareful Жыл бұрын
1:43 cables run over sharp metal edges... pretty sure building code says no to this.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. The extension chord shown in the video is not a typical application and obviously not to code. We use armored cable and have passed 100% of building inspections on all projects.
@hardwareful
@hardwareful Жыл бұрын
@ thanks for replying. Can you in the future switch to burring and curling instead of simple punched holes? This would lead to smooth, rounded edges.
Жыл бұрын
@@hardwareful definitely something we will consider. Thanks for the feedback!
@JohnDo-ntchaknow
@JohnDo-ntchaknow Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the concrete forms where you want to be able to reuse them.
@SN-qu2gz
@SN-qu2gz Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I just think you are the best! So smart!
@oneeyedphotographer
@oneeyedphotographer Жыл бұрын
Timber recycles atmospheric carbon. At present, steelmaking adds vast quantities of carbon to the atmosphere. This is a problem that must be solved right now.
@jdb101585
@jdb101585 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I spend my free time designing wall systems like this from the interior design perspective...maybe I should go work with them!
@bradcobalt
@bradcobalt Жыл бұрын
How about small backyard buildings like a tool shed or pool cabana?
@mv80401
@mv80401 Жыл бұрын
What's the verdict on thermal bridging and sound conductivity?
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
I do not think thermal bridging is going to be a problem when this all appears to be for internal stuff. Think of this like throwing up a building with in a building. You have walmart that wants to add a new store in the middle of its store you could use stuff like this. If say walmart or home depot or like big box store wanted to throw up a starbucks right smack in the middle of their store or even say they wanted to promote a new brand that is not sold with in say walmart. For example say Nike shoes and Nike pays x amount of money to toss a store in select stores and now you can buy nike's while there. The concept is nice to find that you could have a new store in the matter of a single night. Think in door mall yet not fixed stores. More like stalls that can come and go. This would make renting out space far better and no longer confined to the store size.
@apex007
@apex007 Жыл бұрын
These aren't structural walls
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor Жыл бұрын
​@@apex007They don't have to be. They are for spaces that evolve and not locked into a permanent layout.
@apex007
@apex007 Жыл бұрын
@@BigHenFor I know. I was replying about thermal bridging. That concept applies to exterior walls which are load bearing. This product is not designed for that
@robertaylor9218
@robertaylor9218 Жыл бұрын
I try to pay at least a little attention to new building techniques and materials. Not because I’m in new construction, but the day is going to come when I’m asked to repair or remodel one. The trouble is I don’t know what systems are going to take, and which will have been discarded as fad.
@vahidbateni2037
@vahidbateni2037 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos and I am big fan of those that criticize the flawed design and architecture.(e.g. container box homes) I understand that this one is mostly an infomercial and it has genuine applications in places like Wal-Mart. However, I cannot help but notice quite a few flaws that are either missed or ignored in this video. 1) Interior walls usually do not need thermal insulation and these panels are design for interior design, however, be it thermal insulation or sound proofing (which i believe that what was meant and was visible in the video) using metal studs extremely lowers the performance in either case since metal is a conduit for both, orders of magnitude higher than wood. I refer you to Joseph Lstiburek talks that explain why using thermal insulation with metal studs is basically an oxymoron. 2) This brings me to the second missed issue. Metal (specially steel) has significantly higher carbon foot print and negative climate effects compared to wood. It is true that wood from trees also has sustainability issues compared to bamboo products but the small amount of metal used in this panel have much higher carbon foot print of an over-designed wood stud wall. This makes me wonder whether the circular life cycle suggested is more of a gimmick than real concern for sustainability 3) Regarding the claim for cradle-to-cradle design idea of these walls, I am a big fan. However, I have serious concerns regarding the materialization of the claim. Walls are designed to resist forces even when they are not load-bearing. I wonder how would those cam-locks fare after a few years of residential living after few heavy frames hanging for years, falls, etc. that cause lateral loading that may bend the fitting or the even the frame ever so slightly but enough to make them non-reusable. Furthermore, It seems to me that (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the top covering of the wall has no innovation over normal walls and which require the taping of the joints and evidently makes them non-reusable anyway. Sorry for the long comment, but I like your videos and appreciate your higher standards which I hope you maintain and thank you for the informative videos.
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 Жыл бұрын
Supporting walls have entered the chat.
@toddthreess9624
@toddthreess9624 Жыл бұрын
These would be a good way to create separate livable spaces within larger structures for people who have been displaced. You could make a 'cube farm' style set of living and sleeping areas within airplane hangers, gyms, unrented office building, etc.
@corcaightowner8881
@corcaightowner8881 Жыл бұрын
Stage crews could take advantage of this system.
@colingenge9999
@colingenge9999 Жыл бұрын
At 8:08 there is a wire going over top of a stud. Shouldn’t it go through the stud? Like the one under the hand.?
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
One thing this might do very well with is booths for convention centers. Imagine those outdoor and indoor booths looking like real buildings. There is an outdoor convention center that is massive in heavy construction that things like this would do quite well with. These place all have power at them and being able to build a building in several hours and have heating cooling and electrical would be a boost in sales for some of these companies. While a trailer would be just effective being able to walk in to an office on site would get you to buy faster than climbing up in to a trailer as if feels like you pulled up to sell your wares and leave to never be seen again.
@mjkaelbling
@mjkaelbling Жыл бұрын
refugee housing transitional disaster relief
@irukard
@irukard Жыл бұрын
Looks like building systems used in the exhibition industry for constructing booths, pavilions and stands.
@NoName-ik2du
@NoName-ik2du Жыл бұрын
I would love a house built out of these to allow for slight periodic rearrangements in the floor plan from time to time (though I'm guessing most homeowners would not care about such a feature). The more practical use would be being able to easily remove walls to update electrical or repair plumbing. But yeah, the outer skins shown here are too ugly to make a space feel livable. Hanging walls with magnets sounds great, but I don't see how you'd ever get away from the visible seems without mudding (which then makes the deconstruction less convenient).
Жыл бұрын
Great comment! We also offer a removable drywall application. Blessings
@Yhetti
@Yhetti Жыл бұрын
If they open-source the design it'll catch on. That's how you get something like this in half of all buildings
@searlearnold2867
@searlearnold2867 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a product with an actual use case that has potential for commercial application. Investors are in a panic to repurpose empty office buildings to avoid foreclosure and governments are getting on board to allow these former commercial properties to be rezoned to residential. This building system can transform office to apartment because the system fits in elevators for move in without the need to remove glazing and opening a closed building system to the elements during retrofitting. The fact that the system can fit within existing ceiling constraints and with a couple more tweaks, could install as a structural member, could be the key to mass adoption.
@thomas6502
@thomas6502 Жыл бұрын
Cool system. Wish my place was assembled from these... I wouldn't be looking to move. ;-)
@leoyoung7547
@leoyoung7547 Жыл бұрын
Great video. On a technical note, you would probably benefit from a small amount of fill (light) on your other side.
Жыл бұрын
Great comment! We offer single side fill standard and double side fill as an option. Blessings!
@akosyoutub
@akosyoutub Жыл бұрын
So it's simply an "IKEA" metal paravan wall for indoor use. But what is the function of the rockwool insulation? Because it is impossible to thermally insulate this structure, and it is not good for sound insulation as it is so badly installed in the wall with all the gaps and holes.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 Жыл бұрын
I suppose you could wrap the exterior in rockwool and then bolt on some kind of siding.
@akosyoutub
@akosyoutub Жыл бұрын
@@sunspot42 Yes, but then the advertised "greatest" advantage of reusability and speed and easy construction is already lost, because then it can only be built with construction workers who are capable of building facade thermal insulation and cladding. And then the walls can only be reinstalled after dismantling the facade insulation, and this definitely reduces the quality of the wall elements compared to the original condition and produces demolition waste. The problem is not that this system has disadvantages, but that it is advertised as a "universal" solution in the video, although I think its application possibilities are very narrow.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Good points. The rock wool (or chosen insulation) for interior applications is for sound. We can achieve up to a 45 STC with double sided insulation with a standard 35 STC. The skins also provide another level of sound attenuation. Blessings!
@kasperlindvig3215
@kasperlindvig3215 Жыл бұрын
That's a good system. Though price might be high.
@sleze
@sleze Жыл бұрын
There are certainly some commercial uses for this but I don't see this replacing studs in residential homes. I like drywall and taped seams - these finishes look cheap (even though its very expensive).
Жыл бұрын
We offer a drywall solution as well.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
Cool new ideas
@AoE2Replays
@AoE2Replays Жыл бұрын
BELINDA. comin' in with another HOT ONE, right out the oven. thanks.
@BrianMurphyBrianSpecMan
@BrianMurphyBrianSpecMan Жыл бұрын
Head of partition needed components adding from above, not possible if the ceiling already exists. Video show a cable running outside of framing. Plug and play really should be that without the final connections carried out on site, use looms to do it all. Good start but UK British Gypsum Ltd had a simpler demountable system but nobody specified it. Modular thinking is right but designers design in waste without knowing the size of stuff. Retrofit not suitable for modular design except in open floor plans.
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 Жыл бұрын
Kinda Off Subject but I had a similar idea for an RV/motorhome build. Where things like the kitchenette was on castor wheels and latched into place. So you could quickly disconnect everything and either rearrange it. Or remove it, so the motorhome could convert into vargo trailer.
Жыл бұрын
Not as off subject as you'd think! We're always looking to other industries that do isolated modular solutions well.
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 Жыл бұрын
@ Thanks 👍 The other reason for the idea, was so you could take a box truck 🚚 and fairly easily convert back to either sell or resell as a box truck or a motorhome. Once a person spends alot of labor & money to make major permanent renovations/changes, to convert a van or boxtruck to a motorhome. It's hard for them to get money back when reselling. They'd need to find a unique buyer who loves their creation. If the majority of interior furnishings can be detached & easily removed/reinstalled. Then #1, the vehicle can be dual purpose, used for work hauling cargo on say weekdays.Then quickly converted back into motorhome/camper for weekends & vacations. #2 interior furnishings like a kitchenette, cabinets, water tanks. removable wet bath,etc.... Could be resold to someone else wanting to do a motorhome build.
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrinks8089 Love the concept. We've had discussions with a few customers about this, but not an actual application we've completed to date.
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Жыл бұрын
I don't really like the idea of Aluminum, wood is warm (it has some minor insulation value vs being a heat sink material), it's sound absorbing, and while it does rot and break it can allow a home to last well over a century or two if taken care of. America doesn't have any issues with keeping our lumber supply sustainable but I understand other country's lack our forest wealth.
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
This works well for those who build with in massive structures. Think big places. Warehouses, shops, event centers and so on. Large stores which need small store fronts. This has a market. Its just not that big of a market. If we were to start building massive structures in which we need to build with in said structure it would work. This might even work in skyscrapers yet you are going to find a lot of wasted space. Then again most skyscrapers tend to have very similar lay outs. You could toss up walls and electrical for new offices. Yet you still have one major concern and that is hvac systems. Its a super cool Idea yet it has limited use in the "real" world.
@waddeym
@waddeym Жыл бұрын
If the building owner has to reconfigure the fire sprinklers each time they change the room arrangement there wont be any cost savings with this.
@MrSailstone
@MrSailstone Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@TheDiymovies
@TheDiymovies Жыл бұрын
Wild! I’ve been playing some Scifi games recently and the look of this system totally reminds me of that!
@galas455
@galas455 Жыл бұрын
Hi Belinda, I have a question about wall thickness and thermal bridging, it seems like there isn't much room for insulation and the wet wall portion would have even less insulation risking frozen pipes. I suppose you are right, these guys have their work cut out for themselves but still, overall I like the concept and the modularity of the panels.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. All the walls that Belinda reviewed are a part of our interior wall product. We have another exterior wall cassette that currently offers up to R-29 rating and have 6" of insulation cavity. Blessings.
@goonies_never_say_die
@goonies_never_say_die Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting innovation but it might benefit from trying to accommodate some current industry practices, especially in homebuilding. These panels seem great for interior partitioning but building homes present different challenges such as a lot of on-site/field modifications as well as homeowner alterations over time. Perhaps they could focus on the stud panels but allow more traditional drywalling. I'm also curious whether or how they might accommodate fire sprinklers.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Good feedback. We have a drywall solution coming out in December. Fire sprinklers are used in 90% of our interior builds. Blessings.
@mmcm6692
@mmcm6692 Жыл бұрын
Around 300+ applications including trade fairs shops or outlets. Great product.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
no labor shortage at the border. Honest employer shortage world wide though.
@KenNeumeister
@KenNeumeister Жыл бұрын
I am intrigued by how this can be used to make new homes future-proof by making home modification a competitive option to selling and buying a different home when needs or aesthetics change.
@BelindaCarr
@BelindaCarr Жыл бұрын
I agree! There are so many potential uses of the product, but it's tough to find the one that makes the most economic sense. In theory, the cassettes can also be used for exterior, load-bearing walls, but the company hasn't applied for those tests yet because they're so expensive.
@KenNeumeister
@KenNeumeister Жыл бұрын
Once you mentioned load bearing, I realized how difficult this can be, the foundation needs to match, but also the constraints of matching exterior to interior function, and constraints of the lot itself. The modules might serve some marginal benefit but ultimately not that significant in the complexity and cost of residential applications.
@MajidFouladpour
@MajidFouladpour Жыл бұрын
What about rust resistance?
Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Our cassettes are galvanized steel, which prevents them from rusting. Blessings.
@SeattleCoorain
@SeattleCoorain Жыл бұрын
Metal is galvanized. For an interior non-salt spray environment ... galvanizing is fine.
@wayneNtampa
@wayneNtampa Жыл бұрын
How do the panels do with WiFi? I’ve noticed that homes built with metal studs in the interior spaces have a lot more problems with consistent connectivity.
Жыл бұрын
Thus far we have not heard of any concerns from customers regarding WIFI disruption.
@danielvivian3282
@danielvivian3282 Жыл бұрын
I can see this product will be useful for retail store refits. Often I go into a mall condition assessment and find new stores that last a few years then go under and a new store replaces it. Each time the new store goes in the layout changes. Walls and ceilings are removed and replaced with new interior partitions. It is such a waste of materials and labour. This system works much better for that application.
@oldmanjimh3165
@oldmanjimh3165 Жыл бұрын
I see some good points and some bad. Worry about rust years from now, R value and cost.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. We use galvanized and galvanneal steel, which does not rust. We have an exterior wall system that has an R39 rating.
@FEV369
@FEV369 Жыл бұрын
I saw a few more disadvantages. - This not for residential - Walls have almost no ability to be adjusted, thus everything has to be a perfect measurement when using in residential, that will never happen. - The metal will transfer heat and cold right past the insulation being used. This would be good for like FEMA/Military IMO. I can't see a need for it in much of anything else. Some ideas: - Simplify the internals - See if sliding vertical studs to add height to wall or shrink them for residential/remodel use. - Have an easy attachment for firing so that drywall nails can be used and installed in residential homes --------------- I want to like the idea of building homes or walls off site and have them delivered, but it always seems to cost far more and limit what is needed on site. Yeah, if you're building a box, great... but no one is doing that. Walmart probably does it for a tax write off for being pretend green.
@YvesThimon
@YvesThimon 8 ай бұрын
Ce système est Génial. Non seulement écologique, mais aussi très souple dans de nombreux aspects : mise en œuvre, déconstructibilité, mobilité... Il faut encore l'améliorer, le rendre utilisable par tous.
@trialsandtribulations7181
@trialsandtribulations7181 Жыл бұрын
This could be an interesting product for repurposing existing buildings. For example, turning defunct malls into colleges or low income housing / emergency shelters.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
Cool! Imagine if they used them for building shipping containers.
@CoryAlbrecht
@CoryAlbrecht Жыл бұрын
But do they still bend & warp when you try to hang a TV from your wall like the metal studs in an apartment building or condo? If they do, then they're still just useless.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Our walls have digital blocking that can be added to any cassette (wall) and is rated at 300lbs per bock. We've never had an issue with warping from weight.
@chasg5648
@chasg5648 Жыл бұрын
It's time to look at a similar roof system and ground connection system - whole house - all modular - one system. This looks like an excellent start. How do they address heat transmission and air movement through the stud system? I live in the north and getting a tight envelope is a non negotiable requirement. I'd like to see the end of massive non-recyclable concrete foundation walls.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Thermal considerations are made on our exterior walls through decoupling and gasketing.
@darrinrebagliati5365
@darrinrebagliati5365 Жыл бұрын
How much do they weigh compared to traditional walls? I understand the are easily movable, but how do you deal w ceilings when installing in an existing home?
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
Fitting floor to ceiling's gonna be a bitch if you have to drop panels into a 3" deep dovetail.
@MichaelMurray-w6f
@MichaelMurray-w6f Жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 I am sure that one side of the dovetail connecters could be made to slide up and down to lock, that would eliminate the need to lift and drop a panel in place.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMurray-w6f Yeah... But _THIS_ is not that. This is an unrefined answer looking for a question. I assembled literally _acres_ of office cubicles back in the '80's I feel I have a good grasp of what's going on here.
@gregclark5336
@gregclark5336 Жыл бұрын
Interesting... how does it attach to the ground? I would consider doing my basement with this if it were available and not ridiculously priced.
@garywheeler7039
@garywheeler7039 Жыл бұрын
I think they just sit on a concrete floor slab. There is a steel wall track on the top to hold it all together also. And deck cam locks between panels.
Жыл бұрын
Our sill plates sit in concrete anchor brackets. Thanks for the comment
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 Жыл бұрын
Cool, how do I fill them with 12" stonewool insulation? Can I offset vertical supports so vibrations are less likely to pass through?
@plumsmuglers
@plumsmuglers Жыл бұрын
Cost Comparison?
@sumoneskid
@sumoneskid Жыл бұрын
Neat! I can definitely see value in office space. My company is far too cheep to tear down and change office layout, even though there is an obvious need too. I'd be interested in seeing the cost of materials and labour for a new install, and labour for a floor layout change. Would it take 2, 3 ... 10 floor plan changes to be economically beneficial over wood construction.
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
" My company is far too cheep to tear down and change office layout, " OK, but a company too cheap to change office layout, it probably *also* going to be too cheap to pay the higher costs up front for the ability to more easily change layout in the future.
@sumoneskid
@sumoneskid Жыл бұрын
@@andrewalexander9492 Undoubtedly. The purchase would need to be made by the building owner to have any success in my case.
@michaelduggan991
@michaelduggan991 Жыл бұрын
Really? Color me out of synch, but IMHO, Permanence is not a defect of quality building construction, but its essence. Walmart's Vision Centers are a sort of corporate exhibit space. where deconstruction has become a value only because it is a byproduct of throw-away consumerism. This video is so much different from the articulated modern view grounded in construction experience and common sense that I had come to valueon this site.. 1) Nothing new in allen wrench/cam fasteners. They are the staple of cheap KD furniture. 2) I see nothing that is translatable, even with an ocean of salt, to anything real in the construction industry, like a house, an apartment, an actual building. What I see are elaborate props to hold up
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Please come for a visit to our factory and we'd love to show you that our systems go well beyond props!
@RichHernandezEnt
@RichHernandezEnt 11 ай бұрын
Could this be used to setup temporary walls for aircrete?
@meinbherpieg4723
@meinbherpieg4723 11 ай бұрын
What is the load bearing capacity and insulation solutions available for these panels?
@TY1979KA
@TY1979KA Жыл бұрын
I like it, if I had enough money to build a house I would certainly think about it
@Mole-Skin
@Mole-Skin Жыл бұрын
Houses can be quite cheap to build.. Buying the land is the expensive bit..
@markhile9932
@markhile9932 Жыл бұрын
I don't see this system being used anywhere but in commercial uses for now.
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
And not all commercial uses, but only commercial uses where the expectation is the floor plans will have to be modified significantly on a frequent basis. Doesn't seem like it offers any advantages in a place where you could reasonably expect to go 5-10 years before needing to significantly change interior layout.
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewalexander9492 our system is 75% faster than stick build and requires minimally to zero skilled labor to build. Permanency vs modularity is not always the only discussion regarding value.
@Thatdavemarsh
@Thatdavemarsh Жыл бұрын
This is great but I can’t see anyone paying to carefully disassemble a building at its end of life. Maybe the market will be different in 50 years, but the chance of this being the standard and winner is pretty low, which means it will just be expensive landfill.
@andrewalexander9492
@andrewalexander9492 Жыл бұрын
And the idea that in 50 years this will still be a supported product that than just be seamlessly re-used ...
@Redrally
@Redrally Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this stuff can be used to build an upper "deck" above a house roof?
Жыл бұрын
Send us your thoughts and we'd love to give you some feedback!
@garymitchell7551
@garymitchell7551 Жыл бұрын
Can this system be adapted to housing construction or apartment construction?
@sauskeuzumaki121
@sauskeuzumaki121 Жыл бұрын
Can we control the material to reduce the amount of emission from inward walls?
@taxfree4
@taxfree4 Жыл бұрын
This will catch on, between the ability for off site construction and the ease of assembly, power concerns etc. I can see these in the future at any Home Depot or Lowes. The combination of going to the factory and your interviews are the game changer for this excellent podcast, which is even more excellent now.
@NascutdinTarana
@NascutdinTarana Жыл бұрын
Zero waste? Minimal maybe but not ZERO. Infinatly reusable? I do not think so.
Жыл бұрын
Please come for a visit to our factory! We'd love to show you how the cassette (walls) are truly infinitely reusable!
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