Counsell Ejected Over Umpire Fail | HP Ump Cancels Out His Original Call, Hoped Nobody Noticed

With the new pitch clock rules (yea those pitch clock words again), part of the rule implemented is pitchers are limited to two disengagements (pickoff attempts or step offs) per plate appearance. From the get-go, you can see Cobb try to go over the strategy in his mind about how to deal with Rowdy Tellez. Giants’ catcher Joey Bart notices this and quickly indicates he is taking a mound visit. So the home plate umpire throws up his hands signaling time out and then he does one of those cock your head in thinking moments where he’s like “I hope nobody caught that”. Fast forward to 2-0, Cobb will check on the runner at 1st and the first base umpire throws up “2”. Right after that pickoff attempt, Cobb throws to first again and the first base umpire signals “3” and sends the runner to second via a balk. Rackley would approach Riggs the first base umpire telling him apparently the mound visit cancelled out the first disengagement. Counsell comes out and goes kind of crazy.
Thank you for following my content - if you want to help me out, there’s any easy way to do it - just click through my link to Fanatics every time you need fan gear. Every time you do this, I’ll earn a small piece of the sale and it will help me a lot…your support is greatly appreciated!
MLBShop Fanatics: mlbshop.ue7a.net/k04g3n
CLICK HERE TO SUBSCRIBE: / @nonsensesports1

[@SG-jm7np]

If 3 or 4 coaches come out to argue like that, you know you really screwed up

[@lukesmith94]

Thank you, you just spoke for me lol.

[@davidroldanjr.1795]

I've said it once and i'll say it again, if umpires can kick someone out for arguing a bad call by umpires, the umpire or umpires should be fined so they like playes and coches could all have a reason to learn and rememver the rules.

[@SpinyBadger]

Loving this random ump approach of signalling one thing and meaning another. This is like ringing a batter up after a 1-1 strike, and saying "yeah, well I know I signalled ball last time, but it was a strike really"

[@XxStonedImmaculatexX]

Not really related but when Craig had his fingers up showing 2, it kept reminding me of the Key & Peele football skit for excessive celebrations 😂

[@TheStuport]

🤣

[@CommonSense823]

When the catcher knows the umpires don't know the rules and puts them to the test, they predictably fail.

[@TheStuport]

I immediately noticed that too when the catcher "asked" for a mound Visit and the Home Ump immediately changes his hand positions and signals time out!

[@edwinmoux8216]

The brewers coach and the umpire look like brothers.

[@DEATHBYJOKES01]

Can we just bring baseball back!

[@auh11]

This is fun!

[@Aksm91ManNavar]

"these new rules will make games shorter in time"

[@fifiwoof1969]

CloseCallSports says mound visit DOES negate disengagement. 1B signalled 3 - HP said 2 BECAUSE of the mound visit negating a disengagement - this is an umpiring clusterfuck!

[@kskopaz]

These umps act like the game isn’t being videotaped. They screwed up.

[@MontgomeryBarncaly]

Throw me out of the game... sure. But I'm right! so I'm gonna ramble!

[@ZS59Goat]

umpire crews should have to answer questions after the game. shit is for the birds

[@mikefingerbottom2669]

mlb umpires are nothing but a freaking clown show, and anyone who is smart enough to notice gets tossed off the field

[@TheAnoiing]

when will the MLB hold umpires accountable for this kind of crap?

[@vincentwendt720]

I think this more of a rulebook fail. I can't find anything that clearly states that if a mound visit follows the pitcher stepping off the rubber counts (or doesn't count) toward the disengagement total. At least adding an "Approved Ruling" to this new rule will help make it more clear.

[@esco413]

But if you circle back to what qualifies as a disengagement you will then have your answer again

[@terrytitus5291]

I see pitchers complaint,can't just step off when they need to,guess pitchers should just be allowed to quick pitch.They want a fast game,as soon as pitcher gets ball back,throw another pitch,hitter better be ready!

[@theburnetts]

The rule book is a little vague about this. It says that a mound visit does not count as a disengagement. So the question is was that first disengagement a mound visit? Or can you convert a disengagement in to a mound visit? Clearly the umps needed a bit more clear communication so that everyone was aware that the first disengagement had been negated by the mound visit. But ultimately I think they got it right.

[@CommonSense823]

So if the first disengagement was a pick off, and then the catcher went out to talk to the pitcher, does it erase the pick off?

[@theburnetts]

​@@CommonSense823 Good question. I have no idea. I doubt it.

[@CommonSense823]

@@theburnetts Exactly. Step off or pick off is defined exactly the same way under this rule. They should be treated the same way under this rule, meaning the step off does not get erased by the catcher later coming out to talk to the pitcher. They are two separate acts. If the catcher was granted time before the step off, sure there could be an argument about erasing the disengagement.

[@theburnetts]

@@CommonSense823 I get what you are saying. However even on a normal catcher visit usually the first thing to happen is the pitcher steps off. MLB wants to make catcher visits not count towards the number of disengagements. So usually the pitcher steps off, the catcher asks for time and then he trots out to the mound. However if the pitcher steps off and then there is a pause of like 4 seconds and then the catcher stands up to visit the mound should that count as a disengagement? It's tricky.

[@CommonSense823]

@@theburnetts exactly my point (and yours). It’s not that hard to make it not tricky. Just define clearly what is allowed and what’s not. They did a poor job writing this rule and two different umpires on the same crew ruled it differently resulting in this mess.

[@davemoody9868]

Umpiring is HORRIBLE this year. Tonights cubs cards game was a joke at home plate. As a cards fan we got sooooo many calls that were balls its a joke. Time for the computers...

[@blklbluvr]

The umps screwed up. But this is a stupid rule. A runner can get the pitcher to throw over 2 times then take as big a lead as he wants because the pitcher can’t throw over or step off? Am I understanding this correctly?

[@SpinyBadger]

In the footage, the commentary team said if you throw over *and don't get him* for a third disengagement, the runner gets the base. Seems sensible.

[@drewmcclintock7034]

At some point the manager should have socked the ump. Then taken his team off the field until NY steps in. NY needs to oversee the rules, just like Toronto oversees hockey.

[@AbruptandOffensive]

Fire all MLB umps

[@elmerfudd7674]

No worries, nothin will happen to umps. Union protected.

[@JamesB-ep4gh]

Who is this Craig Counsell? All I see is Dexter's brother, the ice truck killer.

[@jonathanbeaulieu3630]

Umps don’t have enough discipline measures to make them pay for their terrible performances

[@Detroit_Dawg]

Where is Jomboy on this one!!! Man I cannot wait lol

[@TheStuport]

Nonsense Sports did a good job on this as well!

[@TheCpadron19]

The umps must have taken the short bus to school. Only explanation.

[@chasingliberty1776]

You want change? You are down 3 runs just pull your team off the field. That will be the wake up call they need to get these umps under control.

[@alanhess9306]

That will not work out the way you think it will.

[@stlin1134]

they’re making all these rules to “speed up the game”, but if the umpire screws up, and a manager knows it, well they’ll just throw him out of the game. Umpires should not be allowed to just toss someone for whatever reason. they should have limitations on player/manager ejections.

[@CommonSense823]

Managers should get to eject umpires twice a season. Have a back up crew ready.

[@Kanibal024]

Umpires are ruining the game.

[@US2A]

So the player was aloud to go to 2nd, after that I'm confused why his team would argue and I know I'm missing something.

[@AdrianR84]

The home plate umpire overruled the call of the first base umpire saying there were only two disengagements, not three, bringing the runner back to first. The home plate umpire screwed up by not calling that first disengagement, saying it was only a mound visit. A mound visit is not considered a disengagement.

[@fifiwoof1969]

@@AdrianR84 catcher pulled a swifty on HP umpire there!

[@biglucas9874]

poor ump doesnt know how to count.

[@timothykieper]

Just another reason to completely give up on sports. Does not seem like this was "Speeding up" the game?????

[@JvmesFilms]

We need jomboy to break this down

[@dicktipton5912]

All on field umpires gotta go. We can figure it out with a.i and cameras.

[@CommonSense823]

Absolutely!

[@mikefagan6840]

MLB is a major embarassment!

[@jadeduh4555]

Lame ass rule. One of the unnecessary ones

[@tomjones4835]

Pro sports have been rigged for decades

[@tvb1020]

All of these new rules are RUINING baseball. I say....bring back the old rules...and just play 7 innings. No pitch clock. No counting disengagements blah blah blah.

[@mikeloosemore6301]

No there was a miscommunication. A mound visit does not count as a disengagement, so this here is a manager fail and a youtuber fail for both not knowing the rules

[@cizzymac]

How to tell when a commenter didn't watch the video.

[@davemoody9868]

THE UMP SIGNALLED DISENGAGEMENT. The umps screwed up AGAIN

[@matts8211]

This actually isn’t in the rule book. The pitcher stepped off which was a disengagement. After a couple seconds the catcher goes out to the mound. There’s literally nothing that says anything about whether the mound visit removes the disengagement or not

[@mikeloosemore6301]

@@cizzymac same with not knowing the rules. The umpires changed it, bit of a miscommunication, but they still got it right

[@cizzymac]

@@mikeloosemore6301 Umpires cannot change the rules on the fly, my dude.