Almost all of those maps were played and they were fun. You are rating them as if they are 5v5 CS2 competitive maps, yet they were 16v16 rankless maps with ability to hop in and out anytime during the match. They were great at what they were designed to. I like to watch your videos, but sometimes its laughable to listen to.
@dezolance9 ай бұрын
Then why didn't vanilla servers play on them if they were fun? I would have loved to play on them but to this day almost all vanilla servers run dust2 or the other few maps everyone knows to death.
@alexisvongermania88709 ай бұрын
@@dezolance Its sadly 2023. Yes, CS 1.6, CSS, CSCZ and so on are great games, but most of the players dont play it anymore and new players dont tends to go and dig up the gems of the past, while they rather surf on the wave of the newly released mediocre games. Those games are basically on life support nowadays. If there are vanilla servers, owners tends to bet on the safe cards that are the most popular. Lets compare it to Miss Universe, there are 10 great girls, but safe bet are top 3. But back when the old CS games were alive as CSGo / 2 is now, all of the maps had their place, not to mention that those games were played often via LAN, outside of the public servers. Well, still are via Hamachi. Those maps were not bad, they are just left abandoned due of the lack of player base. Also, you missed logical faults on the maps, for example on airstrip, there are hangars with Cessna airplane, but there is nowhere a runway to take off, or land c:
@dezolance9 ай бұрын
@@alexisvongermania8870 In my experience even before the current decline community servers are always first and foremost for casual fun yet these maps were almost never present, at the end of the day there is a reason for that. Imo a map needs to be balanced and simple in order to be fun, I never consider "competitive viability". And like I said in the video if you had fun with them be it childhood/friends/LANs great, I've been there too.
@Fatmouse259 ай бұрын
I agree with you the latter maps were 32 player adventures.
@Enak-j5f9 ай бұрын
I'm with Alexis. Most of these maps were played regularly during the og days. 16v16 or 32v32, no ranks little to no strategy. Lots of shit talking
@nevoobrazimiy9 ай бұрын
cs_mansion was being played A LOT in computer clubs
@aruan7sp9 ай бұрын
I can't say about online servers, but on LAN I remember Estate, Militia, Backalley, Prodigy and Survivor being very popular and often requested. Airstrip was novel when the LAN house updated to 1.6, but was dropped pretty quickly.
@BBMILITIA132249 ай бұрын
"...There could be a dedicated cs_militia community out there". My name on steam and KZbin have been "BRING BACK MILITIA" for the last 6 years.
@fernandocamacho50887 ай бұрын
I like that mapa dude. In my opinion Is balanced
@sumpurnis9 ай бұрын
I kinda had fun playing Militia. With POD bots. Gives a nostalgic feeling..
@RamWhiteSister9 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough that some of those classic old maps work better in the zombie mod than in actual ct vs t fashion.
@darius35669 ай бұрын
CS:S's version of Chateau was used heavily in Gmod from what I can remember playing back in the day, specifically the Stop it Slender and Murder gamemodes.
@nicowasd1236 күн бұрын
Yeah cs 747 is super good in ZM
@nomnom24079 ай бұрын
de_prodigy is one of my all time favorite maps, topping the likes of assault, estate and dust2
@stanrr18799 ай бұрын
Chateau concept is so unmatched. I love that map as both CT and T
@512TheWolf5129 ай бұрын
cs_backalley was and still is my absolute favourite map out of all the unpopular maps
@volvoguy8049 ай бұрын
I love the map too! But with bots it's terrible.
@pearlorions7 ай бұрын
Its got issues gameplay-wise but man does it have a feel to it. Imagine if someone did a big game nowadays and it looked like this
@MedicMain94 ай бұрын
I've been asking the community to remake it for years now, and NO, that awful CS GO version isn't it.
@ivan_valerian9 ай бұрын
de_Airstrip was a trip down memory lane. It was EXACTLY like what you said. Played de_dust, went to the toilet, and coming back to a whole different map that doesn't make sense
@umbrellamuffin9 ай бұрын
I feel the only truly "unfixable" maps from 1.6 are cs_747 and cs_backalley. The rest can definitely be improved with a remake that makes them shorter (specially airstrip and storm), adds minor changes(survivor, chateau and torn) and full remakes that keep the feeling of the map (havana, militia)
@scudb55099 ай бұрын
If I am not mistaken cs_747 had a second version to it that had a stair case at the back of the plane. I don’t know what that version is called.
@Galilupottepeak9 ай бұрын
747 is good for deathmatch if you get rid of the curtains
@umbrellamuffin9 ай бұрын
@@Galilupottepeak i agree it was always a good casual map back in the day
@Galilupottepeak9 ай бұрын
@@umbrellamuffin so it could come back in cs2 not as hostage rescue, but as deathmatch/arms race
@AlearsHusband9 ай бұрын
Backalley, Airstrip, and Storm were some of my favorite maps from old CS1.6, they were pretty fun maps, and I like their vibes a lot.
@DaxMarko9 ай бұрын
de_survivor is great for zombie mods due to its layout and spooky atmosphere, especially when set at night in complete darkness. Also cs_havana, despite having photo-realistic graphics, ironically has "stairs" which are just a slope with stair texture on it.
@ramadhani2019 ай бұрын
Man i used to love playing aztec, survivor, prodigy, siege, and militia
@OXY1879 ай бұрын
back then people didn't give a crap about map layouts or competitive maps, it was just connect to a server and play until you get bored
@paunescueugen26509 ай бұрын
Do you guys remember cs_thunder, as_highrise or de_rotterdam ? Maybe they aren't the most balanced maps, but they're definitely uniquely designed.
@freakgamer38929 ай бұрын
I remember playing cs_thunder and de_rotterdam back in the days 🙌🏼
@wreckcity57979 ай бұрын
half of these "least played" maps were actually most played when you scrolled past the wall of 24/7 de_dust servers in the early 2000s
@danielcraig2433 ай бұрын
”Hi I never played CS 20 years ago but in my opinion nobody played these maps” - This video
@nicowasd1236 күн бұрын
Literally
@rekius3283 ай бұрын
"these maps werent played" >*shows maps that were played often back then before counter strike became highly competitive*
@pRaX85815Ай бұрын
This. All of them were played. Some of course less than others, but they were played Online and Offline at LAN parties especially. They only fell out of favour with the birth and rise of e-sports before it was called as such. In the beginnings of that, even cs_ maps were still played competitively.
@stripa189 ай бұрын
A new DeZolance video is always a treat.
@trashcleaner9 ай бұрын
If you ever played cs 1.6 at all you wouldn't say this for most of the maps you trash-talked.
@dibbi_bz15 күн бұрын
Well he did say in other videos that he prefers css more than cs 1.6 no wonder 😅
@BigEyeGuy9 ай бұрын
As someone who played heavily during the beta days I can attest that we played the hell out of Millitia/Estate/Seige, and you are right the fantasy was defending this fort against invaders and a lot of people liked that kind of gameplay (Assault is the king of that) Estate was especially fast and hectic, I remember vividly one session where the CTs were owning us really bad, and they started being complacent and just charge the front door carelessly, so I bought an auto-shotty and jumped from the little balcony and turned to the front door killing like 8 CTs in an instant, fun memories! :D
@Yungbeck9 ай бұрын
I'll let you know that there is a dedicated militia community out there and we're proud
@nataliyatrifonova11809 ай бұрын
I am happy to have played every single map that is mentioned in this video. Although some of them could not be that good for a gameplay, I still love them mostly because of the nostalgic memories they bring me, remembering when I played CS on my very first own computer. ❤️ CS 1.6 will always have a special place in my heart
@soulroll-nz9 ай бұрын
Now it's all streamlined and boring?, some of those maps were super creative.
@henrybautista6762 ай бұрын
The Estate and Mansion are few of my favorites. Sometimes, I still choose these maps when playing with bots. It makes me feel like a kid again.
@weirdautumn9 ай бұрын
Ooff, that old look of militia brings back memories. It was very popular in internet cafes in my childhood.
@SweetFlexZ17 күн бұрын
CS2 def needs some fun maps, I love the competitive side of CS2 but CS originally was more of a fun game, and that's what it needs... fun game modes and more fun maps being oficial not only on the community.
@kameleon_rap9 ай бұрын
Funny because i played ALL of these maps and i just loved them. I dunno, it's just sth with the old aesthetics of cs1.6 that made me love these maps and got me a good gameplay experience. I've never played cs1.6 competitively, it was just for fun and spray and pray. Too bad i wasn't alive at the time :/. I'm 18 now and I found out ab all valve games like 4 years ago. Best thing ab my life honestly XD. Anyway, good video bro! Thanks
@ДимитърДимитров-ф9у8н9 ай бұрын
Bro you need to talk about Estate's and Survivor's CS Online 2 remakes that bring layout change plus de_storm2
@hui-yu54289 ай бұрын
Bro CSO2 was such a hidden gem. It has some of the best maps in the CS history...
@kkarhiiv959 ай бұрын
I love the cubemaps on the water in the source version of chetau.
@nsf001-36 ай бұрын
3:00 Militia's one of the best maps
@bermuda3339 ай бұрын
I feel like cs_militia was ported to CSS solely to show off CSS's improved graphics.
@sherrifdeputyfordaboys7 ай бұрын
Did you know that cs_office have more changed layouts and one of the stuff on that map is unbalanced,just blame the blast door,thankfully it was only on BETA 7.1 cause during the 1.0 version,they update the map to look balanced but they removed some corridors and they cut off the suspicous vent into a door
@damianateiro9 ай бұрын
I remember that around 2012 the maps used to be played on servers or I played them with my high school classmates. The issue is that currently most people only play dust 2 because it is the most popular
@XanderNiles9 ай бұрын
All those maps were hella fun in lan parties and also with bots because you don't come across with them in online servers.
@Woot-Zee3 ай бұрын
Trying to find perfect balance between T and CT deff kills all the fun. I cannot understand why an unbalanced map is not played into competitions... It's not like the teams would not switch...
@RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy9 ай бұрын
Interesting fact: cs_siege originally was a Team Fortress Classic map for Hunted gamemode called "Canyon Hunt" made by the same mapper It looks pretty much identical, except with some minor cosmetic changes
@kozlorog9 ай бұрын
They weren't made to compete. They were made to have fun. Narrative, atmosphere outweighted streamlined deisgn. What was the U-turn for? It was there because the author decided it was cool. These old maps are "unfixable" because there is nothing to fix. Same way you can't fix Mona Lisa you can't fix cs_747. It was someone's vision. Altering it will kill it, not "fix" it.
@samrobson86029 ай бұрын
Valve should do a throwback operation and remake the old maps for some fun…. We need some sorta content in CS2!
@olnnn9 ай бұрын
While it didn't really make it in later revisions of the game, de_prodigy had a bit of the same fate as aztec where it was one of the more played maps in the early days and was played quite a bit on the competitive scene early on (though maybe to a little lesser extent than aztec) but ended up falling out of favour once later versions came around. If you look at old cs
@honeydewtv19 ай бұрын
they are no need for fixing, they're meant to be played in that way
@Jonsson959 ай бұрын
cs_backalley CS:GO remake was one of my favourite maps at the time.
@drakegwalker48738 ай бұрын
Dammt.. back in the day, 747, estate and airstrip are three of the maps I mostly play
@humanharddrive19 ай бұрын
cs_docks and cs_hideout looking great
@andrewgraham25463 ай бұрын
de_rotterdam and cs_docks... man you could have really gone deeper with this video.
@steaksrgood9 ай бұрын
Back alley owns though
@secret_mine7 ай бұрын
all of that maps was my childhood , i miss the old times playing cs1.6 with bots and i really thought they were real persons : D
@freeaolcd9 ай бұрын
Cs_militia, the best cs map ever made.
@MrSnaetchАй бұрын
Actually this title goes to cs_assault. But cs_militia surely is second!
@theopenrift9 ай бұрын
I don't care what people say about it, prodigy is like my favorite Counter-Strike map probably ever
@cundan04849 ай бұрын
cs_backalley reminds me the original Deus Ex
@pabloescobar74799 ай бұрын
CS_747 i played this more than any other map except de dust 1 and 2
@nekipeh73739 ай бұрын
Most of them were actually really popular on casual servers for like 12v12 players, especially Survivor, Estate and Torn. Only maps that i saw once or never were Siege and Storm
@xxxCyr0x9 ай бұрын
Yes you are wrong. Estate was almost never played and if it somehow got voted it was almost instantly "rock the vote" for another map. Militia on the other hand was actually really popular.
@Tamamo-no-Bae9 ай бұрын
747 for all its flaws is one of the most fun and intriguely designed maps. I had a blast on it and I love aesthetic. Same with Survivor, love that one too!
Having lived through it, I can assure you militia was always more popular than... estate? I don't even remember the name for sure having heard it just minutes ago. Hell, we even played CAL matches on cs_militia. That said, I see what you mean about the threats from every direction, not just the front and back yards. It's more similar to that pair of CSGO operation maps with all the fog and multiple spawn points.
@fiend265x9 ай бұрын
5:35 this u-turn was needed for optimisation, that's all
@bj.a.j.9 ай бұрын
imagine all of these (defuse) maps are remade and balanced for cs2, i believe its possible
@volvoguy8049 ай бұрын
If you like cs_backalley, there's a comparably fun map called de_frontalley.
@EuUsoMascara9 ай бұрын
Nice video as always bro 😁😁👍
@Valshiirs2 ай бұрын
Survivor was very fun in war3 servers.
@hobbit77599 ай бұрын
have played all these maps, some are my favourites
@KKYT10009 ай бұрын
At least do some research before making a video! Siege was the OG CS map and vehicles were only added around beta 7 iirc. Militia was amazing when it came out alongside CT/T leaders and unfortunately the super broken P90. If you want broken, just look at facility, but it was still hella fun and played all the time.
@danielcraig2433 ай бұрын
The maps you think are too large are for 32 players, not 10
@ARTHJILLIANAGRIPA3 ай бұрын
that terrorist looking at the camera after switch back 2nd floor was crazy☠
@Xaggy_9 ай бұрын
These maps used to be good on zm mod, especially estate.
@weirdosu55909 ай бұрын
Will you be making any CS2 related video in the future?
@OXY1879 ай бұрын
cs militia in 1.6 had a turd in the toilet that explodes when you shoot at it
@kadriell9 ай бұрын
Func_vehicle forever!
@Jorgnesau9 ай бұрын
some polish server allow to vote super old maps to play can't remember the name but i do remember playing them its super fun
@bruhistantv98069 ай бұрын
Some of these feel like they were made primarily for some sort of call of duty style campaign that got scrapped I also like how many of these maps look straight up like they're from Half-Life... Perhaps this could be used
@uselessjourney9 ай бұрын
I love cs estate
@kayo17619 ай бұрын
these maps are popular in cs online zombie mod
@BamBamAbraham9 ай бұрын
Nice
@FiiixD9 ай бұрын
Maybe I have a little suggestion for your content, you should make tips/tricks on the CS 1.6 game, I think it's quite interesting :)
@Sonic-qc5cq8 ай бұрын
Do you guys remember of a map where you started jumping from a plane and if you stayed for too much time you would die, i don't remember the name
@GuNyPlays9 ай бұрын
I'd love for you to take a look at the maps that made to zombie scenario in nexon studio lmao
@radoslavvasilev54997 ай бұрын
Of this list, Militia and Estate were much played on LAN, and also with bots. i'm referring to early 2000s. Casual fun had place in the original cs. Now some crybaby might get upset of the unfare inbalance, stop spending his parents debitcard on weaponskins and go on social network war with Valve.
@Agente138409 ай бұрын
Underrated video
@contra76319 ай бұрын
I disagree with ur statement on the thumbnail that this maps are unfixable.Lets be honest Csgo maps were very unbalanced at start.But slowly valve tested those maps and took player feedback and made it better.But most of the old Cs v1.6 map or CsCz never saw the light of day.So saying this maps are unfixable is like saying maps like Dust2,mirage,Vertigo,Anubis,Ancient,Overpass etc. were balanced from the start.
@lenmiku20749 ай бұрын
some maps are excellent in zombie mod
@chesku74939 ай бұрын
4:25 How is that a bad thing, it's good to force people to play in a different way, competitive players (and professionals) should be forced to be gone (they are ruining any modern multiplayer game by forcing standards on them instead of letting people experiment)
@Mayonez869 ай бұрын
What is balance? I remember playing estate all the time xD
@wakinki9 ай бұрын
0:35 de_cesky_krumlov ? cože ?
@Aes80s9 ай бұрын
Nowadays the entire CS2 looks unfixable
@georgejpg9 ай бұрын
Your entire channel is dedicated to selling paid cheats for CS2. There are stronger words that I would use but KZbin would remove my comment.
@Aes80s9 ай бұрын
@@georgejpg this just proof my entire point, i dont even enjoy this game anymore, just still doing "content" because i need money to live, eat and pay bills
@georgejpg9 ай бұрын
@@Aes80s No, it proves nothing. You're a lowlife.
@StevePissmann9 ай бұрын
Bro just get a fucking job 🤯🤯🤯
@its-bro-20242 ай бұрын
@@Aes80sshut ur goofy ahh up cheater!!! You're one of the main reasons the game is failing doofus
@gazmendibrahimi48649 ай бұрын
estate is fun to play, survivor ambience is just wow, havana is bad, prodigy too. chateau and militia its okay others are meh
@ababa96689 ай бұрын
I love your videos btw can u pls give me links to some of your other map videos
@sayyiddaffam68229 ай бұрын
Do you guys know any server that still plays old cs maps like those in the video?
@Yungbeck9 ай бұрын
I must have 300 hours on de_prodigy ez
@kalil64649 ай бұрын
i need de_tuscan to make it on cs2 competitive pool
@livvy43339 ай бұрын
func_vehicle func_vehicle func_vehicle
@df710919 ай бұрын
Havanna was good no?
@nicowasd1239 ай бұрын
I had to dislike because you saying cs_siege isn't iconic is such bad taste it made me cringe 300%
@zoltan24509 ай бұрын
i play cs 1.6 for 18 years ). years ago we played a lot maps on public matches was fun now this days d2 is king and tuscan is king on mix servers! cheaters are the greaters players.... so this game its fucked up!