Countries in Space and the Economics of Solar System Colonization

This video is a follow up to a previous video I did on space politics and the colonization of our solar system: • Space Politics and the...
While the previous video focused more on the geopolitics and tried to get a general overview, this video is more about the economic feasibility of colonizing our solar system, and how it may naturally become more affordable and perhaps even lucrative for businesses and countries thanks to reusable technology and space infrastructure allowing for space mining and space manufacturing. I also cover how countries may function in space, and question whether or not the nation state will even be the model we go with across the solar system as geography, transportation, and demographics are so different on the Moon, Mars, Titan and across the solar system.

[@7rock7]

This is a really cool subject that nobody seems to talk about. I’ve been hoping u would make a sequel to the first video

[@primesonic4459]

I recommend Isaac Arthur He exclusively does space related topics such as Science and Futurism

[@luka3796]

I would also consider ecological benefits of moving mining metals that damage the environment away from earth when talking about cost effectiveness of outsourcing mining to space

[@shzarmai]

Indeed

[@stalkinghorse883]

I think we can look at the past examples of "East India Companies" to get an idea of what future space colonization may look like. After establishment, it will become necessary to make sure that they do not degenerate into wretcked hives of scum and villainy.

[@shzarmai]

yep, we might see "Lunar colonization companies'' created by governments in the future

[@extra_crispy4958]

I've always wanted to see a sci-fi property that's set perhaps in the late-22nd century. Where Earth's superpower have founded colonies on other worlds and technology isn't much more advanced than today.

[@emmanuelsamuels2470]

The Expanse

[@zachsawyer2563]

For all Mankind is getting there

[@shzarmai]

Wow this video is really underrated: I hope East African Space colonies and Latin American space settlements get set up in the future. 😊😊

[@steppyt1530]

This is a very it interesting series. Please do continue it

[@metametodo]

Great in depth analysis! Especially impressive how far you can go while still seeming fairly grounded in practical terms.

[@gggdrengen]

Damm, these visuals are getting crisp!

[@loshadkinloshadkin725]

Good video mate honestly enjoyed it

[@crdowney1]

Once you build an O'Neil cylinder, why keep it in one place. I can see some groups wanting to take it further out due security, isolation, etc. You can imagine a big one, just picking up one day, Slinging around the sun and heading out to the nearest star system, cause they are tired of Ceres debt payments.

[@projectember728]

Finally I return to a masterpiece of a channel

[@Lukdnuke_Narson]

Neat

[@Neatling]

Hello

[@bartpepe3664]

Cool that was something what I wanted but never asked for this. Thanks bro!

[@badgamemaster]

Very cool video.... going to be interesting to see what ends up landing people on Mars first... a country or a company...

[@ianbarrett4166]

I would say a company

[@badgamemaster]

@@ianbarrett4166 I think you are right.. Memelord Musk really seems to want to become Marslord Musk...

[@skysthelimitvideos]

Ian Barrett Probably a company and a country working together. (Specifically a NASA mission riding a SpaceX rocket in my prediction)

[@ladahieno2382]

Holy carp, that's magical!

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

Magnificent video :)

[@farright118]

I love space colonization and um upset that this video didn't go viral

[@shzarmai]

It is depressing to see that this doesn't have 100,000 or 300K views smh yet

[@LucasDimoveo]

More videos like this please

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

Well there is a reason someone might want to stop extracting earth resources that can be found in space before they’ve run out. The damage some forms of extraction do to the local environment.

[@odinulveson9101]

Awesome stuff. I wouldnt mind moving to Mars, just not in the first waves of colonists though. Ill go when its as stable as can be 😁 wonder how political parties and politics with Earth will be? 🤔 Will it end up as in Red Faction?

[@atlasfrog5730]

Honestly, I think it will humble us all. We will all realise the futility of war and division, and start working as a united humanity to explore the cosmos. A united humanity is already forming - the EU, the UN, etc. At least, that's my optimistic view of the near future.

[@shzarmai]

@@atlasfrog5730 I can only hope so :) Maybe it might be like the Commonwealth of Man in Stellaris but less xenophobic lol

[@quinogonzo3090]

always wondered if America would ever create a state on the moon far far into the future when there’s a large enough population Armstrong would be an awesome name

[@shzarmai]

Also we might see "Lunar Colonization companies" in the future

[@namenotneeded5128]

How did I miss this video for WEEKS?

[@steppyt1530]

I could Imagine Earth being like Star Wars Coruscant in a few hundred years

[@death_parade]

Another planet that is not Earth is much more suited for that. Earth is the lone garden that we know of. We need to preserve its biodiversity.

[@0122arendell]

Actually, due to the concept of lagrange points, maintaining borders will be relatively simple, everything inside belongs to that planets government

[@redhippopotamus9144]

This is a really interesting topic, what's the music called?

[@kingazteck5]

Hey I'd like to hear your take on what if Theodore Roosevelt was elected to serve as president during world war 1.

[@jessejarmon2100]

I disagree that there wouldn't be borders in space, just because it'd be difficult doesn't mean that people wouldn't TRY. IMO, when the Age of Space Colonization is underway, there will be borders, they'll just be fuzzy and permeable.

[@shzarmai]

New economic models would emerge too i think

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Incentives: Condos outside legal jurisdiction. Musk: Exactly!

[@yttryff6159]

Direct wars can be fought over like individual and the habitats will not be inside the habitats will be annexed

[@Mr.Isquierdo]

Did you get a new mic?

[@eagleowl833]

Could you make a post nuclear apocalyptic scenario based in Europe and siberia. I think you could create a really cool in depth scenario. But if you do this then all I ask is that you make my home city of Hull a "new reno"(fallout 2) kinda place but it should be called "the Shithole". I imagine that after the government looses control of northern England the people would look towards criminal gangs for protection, small gang wars would appear across the city but soon they would unite under a single syndicate and organise the "reconstruction" of hull, which really meant the fortification of the gangs HQ soon to be center of government. Because of the syndicates lack of concern for the general population, survivors would start to use terms such as "shit hole" or "mos eisley" to describe hull as a reched hive of scum and villainy. Others would call it "night city"(cyberpunk 2077) due to the syndicate owned law enforcement making it a sort of anarcho capitalist city state. As time went by, all people would adopt shit hole as the name for the city as future generations didn't understand the references of a by gone era.

[@plexusGD]

When is the new alternate history coming?

[@shzarmai]

I hope Southeast Asian countries create space colonies in the future.

[@JTL1776]

@NEATLING GREAT VIDEO. maybe do how a Anglo Scandinavian European unions where in the near to mid range future 3 unions working together in trade and defense. also a ANGLO-SPHERE. a EUROPEAN FEDERATION, a SCANDINAVIAN UNION. are ALL inevitable. so what's your realism take on this.

[@shzarmai]

I wonder if we will see Latin American space colonies and African space colonies at all or even space colonies from Muslim-majority countries like Turkey, Morocco, Indonesia, Azerbaijan, Algeria, the UAE and Malaysia or not............Hopefully Southeast Asian space colonies can be created too.

[@birb2330]

Latin America , Yes , rest , doubtful .

[@shzarmai]

@@birb2330 why do you doubt the rest?

[@birb2330]

@@shzarmai I know this

[@shzarmai]

@@birb2330 how so?

[@icarus387]

Yes you will see all of them. The UAE put a orbiter around Mars with japanese and american expertise. They propose on building a mars city by 2117 and right now, it's just in its early, early stages. Latin American and African countries will eventually look to space to solve problems that are plaguing their continents. Space is a big place so its not far off to think that almost every nation, group, and corporations will have their own 'colonies' in the solar system, whether they are o'neil colonies or planetary settlements. The future is bright for everyone on earth if they utilize this opportunity.

[@user-yh1nm1vy3i]

This may seem like a stupid/basic question, but how would we get oxygen and food to these future bases on the moon, Mars or Jupiter’s moons?

[@Neatling]

You would produce oxygen locally, using water-ice deposits. Water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen, so you can turn it into air. You would produce food locally in super efficient indoor farms. Early on settlers would probably have to eat a vegan diet, bringing livestock would be ridiculously expensive, and frankly a waste when you don't need them. But in the long term, you could cultivate meat (make lab-grown meat). Depends on when that technology is perfected.

[@thesaturdaytechchannelwith553]

That's precisely how I invision intersolar civilization to be.

[@SnabbKassa]

Jupiter is going to need some kind of mIning corporation with big red space ships

[@MrZZ-py4pq]

space force

[@ivancito7790]

I actually prefer the more localized self-governing independent model future humanity would have to adopt. It’s most beneficial for the individual.

[@MPKb19]

Comment for statistics

[@thisyhis7698]

also.. this is exactly how my sci-fi universe works.

[@lemonduckstudios]

Wait if satellites and plants can govern themselves then what good use is the un them? If we are to go to space what would happen if our colonies rebelled or if they didn’t?

[@lemonduckstudios]

Would we ever call there countries ethier way they seem much more like Astrocity Or Astro Tribes

[@CarFreeSegnitz]

I guide my thinking with economics. What would be the business case for Mars, the Moon or even LEO. At the moment humanity is one big, centralized economy. Everything we do has to be of some utility to our one and only market. LEO and GEO are the most lucrative regions of space as we can do communications and Earth imaging from there. But the Moon and Mars have far less economic purpose. We know that mining and shipping products to Earth makes no economic sense. Earth has everything we need much more inexpensively. Manufacturing on the Moon or Mars runs against the same drawbacks as doing it on Earth: gravity. Any zero-G manufacturing is best done in LEO. There is a small market for scientific data that can only be obtained on the Moon or Mars. Robots are forever going to be orders of magnitude less expensive to collect science. There will be idealists who will go just “because”. But unless launch costs go down by 99.9% idealists are going to need backers. So while “because” will be enough for the idealist the backers will want some path to making some returns.

[@abdullahmalik267]

Maybe I could make an online rp based on this idea...

[@projectember728]

Would the solar system have a currency? SS coins? Solar Dollar?

[@MadeWidy]

Yes

[@yttryff6159]

I want direct with cybernetic and genetic engineered first generation

[@lexi1669]

the more you do vidoes the more confused i get, r u danish or r u american?

[@Neatling]

hmmm

[@mandyogilvie686]

725 like

[@LL_main]

why dont we just print things like in Death Stranding? instead of transporting materials like that we judt use what we have and use printers to print things on thay planet with plans acquired or formulated by planetary engineers

[@thisyhis7698]

1thousandth like.

[@TheHatersarebad]

What if the Holy Roman Empire never came into being, what if Germany was a independent Kingdom throughout the middle ages?

[@shzarmai]

I wonder what kind of Smaller Sovereign States could appear in the future in Outer Space....maybe an actual Republic of Khalistan would be formed or created on a Terraformed Mars or something.

[@lemonduckstudios]

What about terraformation?

[@ExiledMajor]

takes too long

[@jgr7487]

oh, c'mon! we can just grab rare minerals-rich asteroids and sling them towards the Earth, then mine them down here. the bigger the better! there's no way it could go extremely wrong.