CountryHumans Fandom reviewed by a Hetalian

Probably the fairest review of the CountryHumans fandom. I had to cut a lot (regarding fandom and fandom drama) because the video was already super long. Perhaps I'll do that another day.
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[@nota9474]

Your analysis is much more open minded than any other review of the fandom I have ever seen from an 'outsider'. It is very much appreciated :)

[@AlyssaTheEmoijcat]

Me: is there Mongolia in countryball and countryhumans history?

[@michellascaux237]

@@AlyssaTheEmoijcat There is something people need to understand country human and country balls are not the same at all the community and rules are completely different we are NOT the same.

[@PC_Simo]

@@michellascaux237 Yes! I’m personally of the ”Countryballs”-clique.

[@charliotte]

​@@michellascaux237 how? I dont see much of a difference

[@michellascaux237]

@@charliotte The country ball humor is very sarcastical and often about history or the news. And it also has very specific rules in the way that the characters are drawn or the moderation. While country humans is just gen z crap with no rule or moderation at all creating many cringe or sexuall content. And lastly the countryball audiance is older and more mature than countyhumans as countryballs are based on historical events or fun facts about it while countryhumans is just a bunch of kids who find nazi germany cool and ship it with the Ussr for some weird ass reason ! (Sorry for my bad english it's not my first language).

[@Moonyuwu]

as an idiot in the countryhumans fandom (and a moderately recognized figure in the space), i completely agree with just about everything you’ve said. this fandom is problematic and will always be problematic because at the core it’s meant to be political. the fact that the fandom is made up predominantly of teenagers who don’t understand and/or don’t have a proper education concerning history is a disaster waiting to happen. however i do think that the fandom can sometimes be educational-or at the least, get people interested in history.

[@flawlesslamp]

Hey moon.

[@Sophia-maria]

Same i was in the countryhuman fandom but once i learned about Hetalia I switched over i was just tired of the drama but i also i like to mix a bit of the fandoms together i like add more darker parts of history in my fanfic of Hetalia but also making the characters more complex and keeping most of there Hetalia characters personality I’m literally writing a fluff and angst fanfic that take place during the 1642 English civil war

[@ChefGatsby]

Heyo! Both a hetalia and countryhumans enjoyer here! (Hetalian on and off for 8 years, countryhumans artist for 3). When I heard you were making a video on countryhumans, I wasn't expecting such a fair review. I agree with /most/ of this but I'd still like to add my lil input. I truly believe the lack of canon is why the fandom was so intriguing yet so chaotic. You already talked about it so I'll leave it at that. Another reason why I think it was chaotic and had such a negative portrayal was because of... what they are.. flag people. When you see a sus drawing its kinda hard to separate it in your brain. For example, if you see nsfw art of APH America, you can at least see him as Alfred, a person, just another anime guy. It's harder to see a CH as a person since they have the constant reminder of what they are on their face, which makes sus arts more off-putting. However, theres a lot of good in the fandom its so easy to focus on the negatives. It got a lot of kids interested in history and taught them the flags of the world, it allowed such a creative community with easy-to-draw characters. It was such a fun and inspiring community to be apart of! But overall, CH is a fandom that suffered massively from the growing pains every fandom goes through (albeit with a lot more nazi artworks..) Every fandom is full of ship-loving children. Thats what fandoms are! I don't think ships and nsfw soley led to its negative reputation, like most people claim, but those combined with the chaos and nazi artworks definitely did. Briefly touching on the nazi part though- I don't speak for all of course, and yes there was definitely a very concerning amount of art and memes within the fandom. But as someone who was in it during its prime, I personally didn't come across /that/ much of it; especially the "cutesy" ones. Which made it frustrating to see so many commentary/cringe channels picking out those works to clown on. They made it seem like thats ALL the fandom was which simply wasn't true. If you go looking for it, of course you're gonna find it! Shocking!! Of course, I might be biased- I mean look at my channel, I obviously have a soft spot for CH. The fandom has calmed down a lot recently. Right now its just full of people who wanna make good looking artworks of their favorite countries or clowns who just wanna meme and be funny. Personified countries is either something you like or you don't. Simple as that. Countryhumans (and hetalia, i see it too) are cringe af but yknow what- I still love it! Despite its flaws.. Just stay on the side you vibe with. But yeah, thanks for the fair review! Nice seeing a review from someone who isn't completely disgusted by the idea of personified countries. Truly a breath of fresh air!

[@wannabehistorian371]

Oh my god, ChefGatsby?! I didn’t expect to find such a big creator here! Hi, I’m a fan! Your works helped me see the good side of CH. Keep doing that! I agree with your points so much here. We embrace the cringe. Imo despite all the freedom CH has, it also has more hidden restrictions than most fandoms just because of what the characters are. I think the political stuff was less the issue and more immature fans not seeing that it’s not like Hetalia; the characters are inherently countries down to their core, and sus stuff becomes manyfold sus. Though there’s also kids who can’t do satire. But the fandom has pretty much gone through what the Hetalia fandom has in like half the time lol

[@KolkoCat]

OMG you're the one who made the animation for that song that's been stuck in my head all week. You're an amazing animator.

[@Randomdude112]

Ayo

[@PC_Simo]

@ChefGatsby I agree that the flags as their faces definitely make it that much harder to separate the characters from the actual countries. *EDIT:* -(Also; I’m gonna get so much flak for this; but there are few things cringier, than spelling the word: ”Cringy” as: ”Cringe”; which, even a non-native English-speaker, like myself, can tell, is exclusively either a noun or a verb; not an adjective. The adjective is: ”Cringy”.)-

[@drawingdoritu]

A long, long time ago.. There were 2 fandoms. Countryballs, hailing from an upside down polandball. And Hetalia, hailing from Hidekaz Himaruya's fantasies. They met one day in the fandom meetings and fell deeply in love.. later on in their years Hetalia had a baby, that baby was strange.. the head of Countryballs, the body of Hetalia. Countryballs was up to the name and they named it.. Countryhumans.

[@PC_Simo]

Makes sense 😅.

[@wangsengsin2527]

And then country balls decided to get a divorce and leave Hetalia to deal with countryhumans

[@user-lx5vw9nx7q]

I was originally in the countryhumans fandom,but then slowly got into hetalia,because then I could make fanart and no one would suspect that the silly lilly doodles are the personifications of Hungary and Austria.

[@cream9561]

that’s one thing I love about hetalia

[@th3lostw4nderer]

@@cream9561frfr

[@genderless8381]

Me: *A Hetalia, Countryhumans, and Countryballs watching to see if I'm not alone*

[@clover._.47]

Same xd

[@Chola_Empire3558]

Same thing here lol

[@aireena9325]

Sameeee

[@RinItoshieeSimp]

Same 🙂

[@makke_00]

Yr not alone🙃

[@pinkdiamond1847]

I think they're both good but I prefer Hetalia because I just find it more attractive to look at and it was sort of around first but then again Hetalia wasn't the first to personify nations I have a series of postcards from the 1930s that feature women personified as nations. Me and my friend who was with me when I brought them joked that it was the original Hetalia.

[@wannabehistorian371]

Personifications of countries are actually pretty old. Far older than the 30s.

[@pinkdiamond1847]

@@wannabehistorian371 That's really cool

[@PC_Simo]

@@wannabehistorian371 Yeah. Remember John Bull, Uncle Sam, etc.? 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇸

[@Lemon-wu9lr]

I adore countryhumans but theres ALOT of shit in the fandom

[@KaitlynMilliken]

Yeah I mean there are people like mareisindiangirl (she does countryhumans with no ships) and then there aré people who make r34 of personified countries

[@Hamsterlover3]

I love the fandom too but there’s a lot of toxicity but their really is good side I swear-

[@Lookitsteatime]

It's literally one of my favorite fandoms but the amount of bs out there is just... Ugh that's why I try to stay on the good side of the fandom

[@AussieDogGamer]

Oh my god the damn ships

[@pluspiping]

Another major difference between Countryhumans and Hetalia is their intended audience. When the Hetalia manga and anime were adapted for release in the USA, for example, they were rated Older Teen and R, respectively. Hetalia, even as benign as it became, was never (NEVER!!) for middle schoolers. But middle schoolers got their hands on it anyway, and like you said, that's where a lot (but not all) of the problems came from. Meanwhile Countryhumans is a fandom without a canon and without a licensed (and rated) publication. It's on the very "Unrated and Uncut" internet. You could say it's not for middle schoolers, but good luck with that. If there's one thing that will reflect your culture back at you in the worst and most distorted ways, it's in unsupervised and immature people. Oof.

[@ordinarynightmare9777]

As a person in both fandoms, I can't wait to see this.

[@thi7292]

ME TOO!

[@ordinarynightmare9777]

After seeing this. Fair enough. Amazing commentary I'll say ✨ I agree with alot of things said and well, the fandom changed over the years I have been in it and yeah is it perfect? No. But it's what it is and maybe it will continue to improve. We just have to wait and see.

[@Galactic_birds]

As someone in the CH fandom, I assure you, none of us know who tf Perla is either we just kinda rolled with it

[@wish1low225]

Wow, as someone who has been in CH fandom, and is now in the hetalia fandom, this sums up everything I've ever wanted to say about the countryhumans fandom. And the cultural clash... dayum.

[@steph4471]

3:25 THAT'S MY ART!?! TYYY , I didn't think my art would ever be seen in a video this has made my day 🥰✌️

[@xeenn69]

THAT'S YOUR ART? IT'S AMAZING

[@steph4471]

@@xeenn69 🥺 TY

[@oikawasimp7181]

Hetalia characters are hotter than countryhumans characters though, I will die on this hill. Edit: Seriously like I just don't see what's so hot about a flag on a face, I actually want to see a normal human 😭

[@thelocalscp5193]

Well....It depends on the artist

[@oikawasimp7181]

@@thelocalscp5193 true, it's just most I've seen they prefer to use a flag

[@TheRealFranzKafka]

The ony hot version of Countryhumans I have seen is Neon Froots version of Russia.

[@PeeperSnail]

Depends on the interpretation. There's some countryhumans that are legit just humans, some of those are pretty uhh... appealing. Nothing tops the glory of Alfred, though.

[@PC_Simo]

@Oikawa Simp I agree. I mean, you might as well drool over an alien. 🤯 Hetalia, on the other hand, has aesthetically very appealing characters (mostly). I’ve had *_THE HUGEST_* crush on Belarus, for the longest time; although Belgium and Hungary are very hot, too. I would also include Ukraine, if Himaruya just gave her a longer hair 🫤. Her facial expressions are very cute, though 😊. As for Belarus; when I first watched the video: ”10 Minute Challenge - Belarus Sneezing”, I almost came on the spot, upon hearing her first sneeze. -(Yes, I’m also a sneeze fetishist; and it was actually on the Sneeze Fetish Forum that I first got introduced to Hetalia.)-

[@Diana-tp7wx]

Honestly, as a German, this Fandom is disgusting. Maybe if people wouldn't sexualice Third Reich, USSR etc. it might become a pretty nice Fandom.

[@Seth_xax]

true

[@paikoateacat]

It boils my blood to see people represent these characters in any way other than absolutely reprehensible...

[@puckkrz01]

Exactly. Nowadays I think it’s pretty tame, but like 5-7 years ago was ATROCIOUS.

[@quitequeerquesadilla]

As a person who used to be incredibly into Countryhumans before eventually transitioning into Hetalia, I guess I should've known this was coming eventually

[@nyx_nycto]

Okay, since this was made a year ago I'll just consider this as a little outdated. The fandom now these days is more focused on history and shipping stuff like Rusame and USSR x T.R will get you criticized as it is less accepted. A lot of us are still more historically accurate and don't use stereotypes as much as we used to in the past. I do mainly agree with your points, and am glad you gave a fair opinion on the Countryhuman fandom other than others just going "You humanize countries? Weird bro," and I appreciate your honesty.

[@paikoateacat]

Stereotypes in general are a tricky game to play. A Russian could get offended over the 'vodka loving' stereotype while an Arab is laughing at the 'tea loving' stereotype. As long as you do your best to approach common cultural aspects of a country in a humorous way, while still avoiding harmful stereotypes that portray people of that nationality as subhuman or dumb just because something they do is different, it is very easy to make good Culturally accurate content without hurting people and instead making them laugh about a funny thing they do in their country that other people in other countries maybe don't do. Treat countryhumans as a representation of a person from the country rather than a representation of the country. That could even make some of these ships understandable. If you portray the RusAme ship as a Russian guy with an American girl (or whatever genders) rather than the actual countries, you can ignore politics and have an actually compelling story. You can even add qualities that help with the representation of the country such as America being a stronger than average person and Germany being interested in engineering. But the most important rule will always be, Do not under any circumstances represent problematic countries like the USSR and Nazi Germany under any light other than negative.

[@puckkrz01]

Yes… I was into CH around 5 years ago.. and it was very stereotypical. God it was genuinely so scary. Femboy Japan and America 😭😭😭 and literally like all the ships were jsut “kawaii x bad boy” 💀💀💀 I sometime see newer media of it and I’m glad they make things more historically accurate and focus on things that actually happened. There seems to be less shipping which is a W IMO. I still have some CH videos up on my channel, and as much as it haunts me I just can’t let it go.

[@r.s.4672]

I'm a longtime Hetalia fan who has also become a huge Countryballs fan in the past year. I'm American and I actually appreciate the sometimes dark humor take of the Eastern European/Russian Countryballs comics and videos, because I've learned so much about their view of history that way. I can't get into CountryHumans because I don't care for the art style. Hetalia has handsome men and Countryballs are cute balls, but the look of CountryHumans just turns me off. Lol!

[@PC_Simo]

Same here. Though; as a 1000%-straight male, I’m probably not the one to judge the ”handsomeness” of men 🤔.

[@lolk7726]

fr, the only design i can respect is the one by Neon Froot. It's underrated as hell within the entire fandom, but it makes sense because young people can't really draw for shit lmao

[@strawberryyyz]

The best review video on countryhumans tbh. also on the whole Reich being portrayed as a good dad that just wants the best for his son: I think that idea is coming from HIS pov.. HE thinks that what hes doing is right. HE thinks hes doing what's best for his son/everyone else. And I think that's just realistic cuz a lot of ppl do bad things thinking they're in the right. 🤷‍♀️ but I understand If ppl still view that hc as offensive, cringe, wrong, or smth.

[@cosmicicle]

I was in the CH fandom. The fucking whiplash i got when i saw the differences between CH Finland and Hetalia Finland was mindblowing

[@pyrobeingpyro]

Fun fact: recently an new discussion appeared on the CH regarding if Weimar Republic and Third Reich are the same person or brothers. The same person theory defends Weimar went insane and became TR. The brothers theory defends TR killed Weimar in order to take power. Both ironically depict TR as an revengeful son (cuz WW1 and the german empire, his father, dying)

[@yeetyeet199]

i switch between "they are different person" and "they are the same" almost daily 😭😭😭(im currently at they are different)

[@Giyaaki]

You are right, this fandom is dark and often represanted by the "bad apples" but it is really useful. As a person who is quite young but has a sense of limits, this fandom (along with countryballs) explained to me world hitsory and stuff I would have never known. And about no no germany(yk what I am talking about), in some AUs like Ohlolu's one, he was manipulated and stuff (basically became crazy bc of the no no leader) (And i am very late, this popped in my recommandations) And I might try Hetalia one day- (YES I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, sadly)

[@a_random_thing]

I wish I could watch hetalia but it's not available for me to watch unless I watch it through KZbin 😢

[@theskywingartist]

History Fanatic here! The country humans fandom can be actually educational at some points. The old days? *Ehhhh....* But some animatics have actual time dates about historical dates and they usually help me remember years crap happened sometimes. And the fandom has started leaning into the actual history part more because instead of middle schoolers, we're now high schoolers for the most part. (We still have cringey parts, but it is easy to avoid)

[@Emdotexe]

As someone who has been in the CH fandom since 2019, I honestly think you gave the countryhumans fandom more credit than where it is due. Although it has toned down since its height, I'm really surprised that no one touches on some of the more deep-seated issues of the popularity of (purposeful) incest, bestiality, and pedophilia. I know every fandom struggles with these problems to some extent, but because of that creative freedom you mentioned, paired with young naiveite, they really do go hog wild with it. I do think that you hit the nail on the head on the political humor bit of video though, it's part of the reason I am attracted to the concept of countryhumans vs the reality of the fandom. I first watched Hetalia when I was 13 and was drawn into the characters and the snippets of history being illustrated with those characters (the American Revolution scenes is a good example). However, when I quickly realized that that was not the tonal focus of the anime and instead it was just cute anime boys doing completely unrelated hijinks, I dropped it very quickly. It's like eating cotton candy. Sweet and melts on your mouth with no effort but has little no substance behind it. That is Hetalia's strength but also, its greatest flaw, in my opinion. Hetalia is not meant to be taken seriously, and because of that, they just don't touch on any "dangerous" topics that CH grabs ahold of and does whatever its little heart desires. Countryhumans is all meat, even if it's rancid and covered in bones that will chip your teeth when taking bite. Also, despite what some people may say about how 'they don't want to get political' make no mistake: I've been around long enough to recognize that is a means of deflecting criticism from their sometimes very biased art pieces, animations, and writings. Some of these are from innocent individuals who do not really comprehend what they are drawing, and others do so maliciously or to push an agenda. It is completely similar to polandball in that regard. If there is anything positive I can say about countryhumans as a concept specifically, it is that it has really intrigued me to learn history and understand people across the world. When a russian artist makes an animation meme of (ancient) Poland and Principality of Moskow with Poland looking like a jerk stepping all over Moscow my first question is "what is going on here?" because a majority of the time, these animations are illustrating the artists' perspective on a specific historical event. Sometimes the artist provides context, other times you have to search for it on your own. But what a small joy it is to discover some tit bit of historical information that was not even given the time of day in your history class. And although a lot of these depictions of countries are layered in bias of mostly hormonal teens, they still are interesting to look at and think about, no?

[@malokeytheallaround]

Well said. I never thought about it like that before. Thanks for your two cents.

[@uncanalabandonado-9288]

yeah

[@xxAryAryxx]

I think you're forgetting that while the source content of Hetalia rarely if ever touched upon "dangerous" topics, the fandom definitely can and does. The real difference is that the Hetalia fanbase, at this point, is older on average and this helps us setting 'non-written rules' to try and limit the sharing of controversial content. And, since Hetalia has a canon source unlike CH, fans can have a lot of creative freedom in exploring what canon source barely touched upon, BUT within much clearer limits of common sense (also because Hetalia characters are Countries, yes, but they are also people with specific personalities that go beyond their 'humanized Country' aspect). You are kind of underestimating Hetalia and its fandom in that regard, Historical!Hetalia is a very vaste AU that many fans work with and most of it is built upon canon trivia and snippets. You're talking as if the Hetalia fandom isn't massive and hasn't been producing content (mostly fanarts and fanfictions) for the past 13 years ...

[@wannabehistorian371]

Wait beastiality? Are there any CH animals?

[@wannabehistorian371]

@@xxAryAryxx The “Hetalia characters have specific personalities aside from being countries” aspect may sort of be why OP finds it unappealing in the first place.

[@alliemotchka3516]

I feel like the idea of countryhumans is just a huge missed opportunity that could have actually been something really good on the internet

[@talunanightheart]

Good concept Executed badly....

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

Like most fandoms and most things on the internet :P

[@OfficialToxicCat]

Read that the creator of Hetalia actually did historical research before making the manga and the anime. CountryHumans could’ve been like Countryballs where it educated people in hilarious ways much like Countryballs and Hetalia did. But then it got weird really fast when people started shipping regime’s and countries that hate each other.(pfft I even think Hetalia fanbase fell down that rabbit hole multiple times).

[@Sweet_Squad4ever]

LOUDER QUEEN!!!!! 😭 This is really something CH needs to hear. A neutral party seeing both party and never pick sides.

[@gokbay3057]

6:00 America remaining apolitical does make some sense. He is America after all, not an American. I mean yeah, political polarisation is on the rise but both sides are pretty equal in size (well, democrats/liberals/left is somewhat bigger) so him being neutral makes sense, otherwise he would be almost 50-50.

[@Rededthedead]

(Heads up I’m going to calling America a he because I have made him a he) I present: headcanon. (I should clarify, countryhumans headanon.) Here’s how I think of it: America is apolitical because he believes he has to be. As the highest form of representation, and the very embodiment of the nation, it is his duty to represent everyone. Politics cannot disturb his pursuit of neutrality. He must be open to everyone and analyze things by their quality, as opposed to focusing on which side made it. I am extremely against partisan fighting and here is the evidence.

[@rachelisverycoo]

This is by far the best review of the CountryHumans fandom I’ve seen.

[@karmanwilmot1648]

This is the ONLY review I've seen😅. And I agree with everything she said 😁. I haven't seen the anime or read the Manga, but I recently got into the whole Country humans thing and found it fascinating. I wasn't a fan of people glorifying the Nazis or making it a parent(it's not respectful and it makes no sense). If someone HAS to make the Nazi symbol a character then I guess you could maybe make it be 🤔.... maybe it's a piece of the Germany human that fractured off and grew into a monster that it is🤷‍♀️. It's DEFINITELY not a parent of Germany though. Germany was there before Nazi so that makes no sense. I think it's okay to mention Nazi history and all and if everything else (countries, states, organizations, etc.) is a human then Nazi flag is too I guess 😅. As long as it's handled correctly. Acknowledging history and not avoiding it is a good thing as long as the bad stuff isn't glorified (like Nazi being some caring parent or some cool badass killer. It's a killer alright, but not cool or badasses.) It's hard to handle horrible characters correctly without glorifying them, especially real world history. It's doable though, you just need to be careful.

[@digitxlrin]

*“It’s a mix of people and.. balls.”*

[@thecrimsonviscount5689]

Maybe I am a bit "boomer-minded" person, but when children of 2000s and 2010s portrait Nazi Germany as a bad-ass UwU Disney villain and not as a *cough* complicated political and historical phenomenon... I find myself looking at portraits of my grandfathers in Soviet uniform and be a little worried about our future.

[@lickvinegarkids3654]

People born in 2010's are under 12 what are they doing on the Internet??

[@habibainunsyifaf6463]

@@lickvinegarkids3654 good question actually...

[@lickvinegarkids3654]

Also people born in the 2000's half of them are adults and the other half teens so calling them "children" is a bit weird -sincerely a 2006 teen

[@thecrimsonviscount5689]

@@lickvinegarkids3654 Well, as I said, I am a little "boomer-minded" person -sincerely a 2005 teen xd

[@Luxcalibur]

@@thecrimsonviscount5689 "Everyone older than me is geriatric and everyone younger than me is a pre-teen" As someone born in 2002, I can confirm this is how I see the world

[@FyodorsStuff]

When you're in both fandoms

[@Anonymous_Dumb]

As a countryhumans fan (and content creator) yea alot of this is true, the fandom is mostly kids who dont really get the impact certain countries have had on history, but theres still alot of people who do try to be like "hey wow thats not ok" and stay apolitical. Im not trying to defend these downright offensive depictions of past countries, im just trying to point out that most people only see the outer parts of the fandom (AKA offensive art, bad stereotypes, political things, and just generally not okay things) and say the whole fandom is like that. Countryhumans is going through a similar phase that hetalia was once going through (although its 10x as chaotic because theres no true cannon. Everybody as their own AUs, designs and thoughts about other countries that are probably influenced by where they grew up and how they were raised to think about others which still is NOT an excuse) and now that there are starting to be some mixing of fandoms and older ch fans are starting to reign in the younger ones its still pretty murky here Safe internet travels, and thank you for covering countryhumans. Even if it was mostly the icky side (which is alot of the fandom, sadly)

[@lucidstarzzz]

I usually am not able to watch opinions on the countryhumans fandom. But, this video is different. You actually understand where some of us are coming from! Thank you!

[@Ech0Chamber]

I grew out of the fandom, but never grew out of the concept😎 Unless you count the countries "growing" if you know what I draw.

[@Winter-gx9qh]

honestly I found hetalia through countryhumans and most of the ppl I interacted with in the fandom were pretty nice This comment doesn’t really have a point I just wanted to say that

[@MayannHanna]

"Everything's subjective, if it's not your cup of tea, then it's not your cup of tea" aka, the normal opinion of a normal human being with a functioning brain. West is too sensitive, East is too insensitive. Either way, consume what content pleases you and stop trying to policing everything. That's my two cents to fandoms in general.

[@doransoran]

Based

[@kellyli7925]

@@doransoran i know you are agreeing with this person and so do i but seriously what does based mean? my friends say it all the time. what is based slang for? help me here

[@doransoran]

@@kellyli7925 it basically is just kinda like in the sense that it’s “based” on something, and therefore has merit, and therefore is a good point. Like… “wow, u have nuance” or something like that

[@lolk7726]

based

[@asimplenugget8608]

I think what matters is what side of the fandom you decide to be a part of. If you want to stay on the historical, informational side with really dramatic but really good MAPs, have fun. If you wanna stay on the meme/stereotype crazy side, have even more fun. If you wanna be toxic...that's on you. Not the fandom.

[@ShadowSkryba]

Thanks for recognizing we Eastern Europeans are just more into thick-skinned humor

[@Foxffires]

Honestly, I love country humans. BUT I HATE IT WHEN I SEARCH IT UP AND I SEE R34. Shipping countries is weird, but shipping countries with yourself or shipping AMERICA AND RUSSIA is weird. I've also seen... Ukraine and Russia... fuck no. Also I'm not political I just like seeing landforms in stupid situations.

[@Baron_Friedrich_von_Steuben]

Same, I use it so I can find people who are interested in history😭

[@-Callan..]

As someone in both the Hetalia and Countryhumans fandom, I cannot agree more with this video. Everything about this video is literal FACTS

[@manjotbali8985]

Not me calmly being stuck in 4 country fandoms, Hetalia, countryhumans, countryballs and SATW

[@kellyli7925]

me

[@lilithpyrope476]

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE REMEMBERS SCANDINAVIA AND THE WORLD????

[@elireishere]

Japan x South Korea is a ship I will forever loathe, and that is just from knowing a tiny bit of Japanese-Korean history. You don't need to know a lot of the history to know how bad of a pairing that ship is.

[@_ideatrash]

Well... there is no canons in countryhumans fandom but they really hate my views a lot... weird huh? I love hetalia more cuz in hetalia; nations have more human-like sides and i kinda love it.

[@ChristianKathlyne]

Yea same

[@LemonboyTea]

**Non-suspicious whistling from a corner** Never heard of Counteryhumans before. Nope, uh uh, not at all

[@kellyli7925]

i am personally apart of 3 country related fandoms (countryhumans, hetalia and polandballs) and i have to say that they all have their ups and downs. they all are much more similar than you think. but again, i’d say each is as bad as the other in terms of negativity. for example: the hetalia fandom is a bit crazy and over steps boundaries and sometimes has nazi’s in it, the countryhuman fandom with its over abundance of ships and polandballs with the biggest amount of racism i have ever seen in any fandom. also on a side note: i think some certain ships are okay as long as it’s based on personality and compatibility rather than history but i don’t know that’s just a me thing. (side note: my personal theory of why countryhumans is so big in ships is A. they are countries so technically enemies and we know how much the internet loves enemies to lovers, B. no canon so it’s a free for all)

[@TheBlueMarbleItself]

Same! I like all three!

[@TheBlueMarbleItself]

Note: I personally like Countryhumans a LOT less than the other two. This sucks, because it has a LOT of potential! I want to start a new Countryhuamns, called "countryhumans NOVA", to not be associated with the original fandom. Personally, I think there should be a true canon, and people that like characters as opposite genders can still enjoy it, but with female counterparts, similar to Nyo! Hetalia. It is just based on my opinion of the "offical genders", so please, keep that in mind. It would also (hopefully) fix most of the fandom's problems.

[@lolwutt]

I like polanball and countryhumans but i dont know about hetalia. You are right, there is no polandball comic without racism, and sometimes countryhumans has cringe things. I'm just ingoring them and block the artist ;-;

[@Left969]

When you were talking about culture clash, in Australia disagreeing or disrespecting the government is kinda just our actual culture.

[@Left969]

But I’ve seen Americans and Europeans freak out when we do this.

[@X_oodles_X]

Hi :3

[@Motherrussia-_-]

This is the best review I have seen you are the only person I have watched that got it right and did the country humans fandom mercy and gave it the benefit of the doubt

[@persephonehall1856]

as someone who is apart of the fandom, this is one of the first videos that i've watched where someone has talked about the countryhuman fandom. and not feel like i was being shamed for liking it

[@voided9593]

I’m surprised anyone thinks Countryball is very political in my eyes it’s not very real at all countries that hate eachother are falling in love in this world my favorite is country balls it accurately portrays politics most of the time in a neutral stance and it has the real relations between countries

[@oikawasimp7181]

I just prefer Hetalia because I like characters that look like humans and don't just have a flag stamped on their face 😅 Edit: Also the Hetalia characters weirdly feel more wholesome and less mean than in countryhumans

[@daraayufebrilianty8060]

Countryhumans is just Hetalia but countries are alive and have simple design 😀

[@persassyjackson6924]

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS. I actually found the Hetalia and country balls fandoms because of Countryhumans. The reason I joined was because I realized there were no limits. Before I didn't really feel attatched to any fandom because I couldn't draw anything very well. I am a very creative person with a very low self esteem so seeing all the Percy Jackson and Harry Potter fan arts and trying to draw them and failing miserably slowly pushed me away. Then I found Countryhumans and realized that all the parts I was struggling with weren't needed and it seemed normal to leave them out. At first I felt guilty for being in the fandom because of all the things about nazis, then I found the better side that said hey, want to draw something funny about France and a baguette? I started drawing Countryhumans and for the first time in years found art fun. For a while I completely ignored the shipping aspect because it made me uncomfortable but now I do some ships simply because of how stupid you can make them look. (Still no Nazi shit tho, yuck) It soon became an output for stuff I saw on the news but didn't fully understand. I remember writing a crack fix where America built the wall and then Canada built a wall and America smashed Canada's wall and Mexico murdered him while he wasn't looking. All this because I saw on the news something something trump Mexico USA something something. Countryhumans also gave me my love of history and the intricacy of politics. Before I joined the fandom I didn't know a lot of things about history, geography, and politics, mostly due to the poor education system but a significant part of it was disinterest. A few months after I joined I found myself going down a rabbit holes about how the T-34 was built and how there is still a dispute on whether the first plane flew in the USA or Brazil. I would never have actually paid attention in history class or done research on my own had it not been for Countryhumans sparking interest in these topics. There is still a lot of shit in the fandom we need to sort out but there is so much good too. That's something no one has ever mentioned. Because of the fact that I learn something new about history and politics and am pushed to do research and learn every day I can't see myself leaving the fandom anytime soon.

[@EclipticRaisin]

For me, it’s the same but with Hetalia. I found Hetalia because of my love for history (specifically the 1900’s) and already like creating personifications of things that are not people. It gave me an outlet to do this and taught me more about geography and the more hidden moments in history. I got into countryhumans and countryballs a little afterward ^^

[@wannabehistorian371]

Wait how were art skills not needed in the CH fandom? But thanks for telling us your story! It’s great when people are more willing to learn for whatever reason. Though the writing stuff about politics you don’t understand aspect is arguably what causes problems in CH, we all have to start somewhere.

[@persassyjackson6924]

I could never get the hang of drawing ears, hair, noses or realistic eyes. Most ch art doesn't have these and its what sparked my interest. Sorry for any confusion! And I agree about people writing about things they don't understand, it definitely is a problem, but one that can be easily combated.

[@jadenashlly6585]

Countryhumans is like countryballs but gayer

[@alcorian8269]

a similar fandom is centricide--personified political ideologies. now *that* i would like to see a hetafacts video on

[@meruvinyl]

YESSSSS

[@arurramoon1965]

HECK YEAH

[@blumae1170]

In terms of shipping (since it's like big part of both fandoms), I think I finally got why I'm more inclined to like the ships (and other stuff, other than ships) in Hetalia, and it's because they have their own personalities outside of the stereotypes people expected to see. Them having their own names also helps. Like for an example, the ship: GerIta. The Hetalians I encounter ship them, not as the country itself, but rather as people, (Ludwig and Feliciano) based on how they interact to one another personally in the show/manga/comics and not necessarily only due to their shared history (though, it does play a factor). Take the episodes where it's almost slice of life (sprinkled with some history or facts about their culture) like them watching movies. They just look like friends showing the movies that came from their land and their reaction to it is just them being themselves. Just seeing them do some mundane things or interact with their fellow countrymen makes them more than the country they represent. They are a character, whereas countryhumans are more like a caricature of a bunch of ideas and stereotypes about a country, stuffed into a humanoid figure with little to no personality outside of it, and all of these are based on what I've seen mostly. I guess, Hetalia being a story helps, unlike Countryhumans, where it seems like from what I understand, are created by a bunch of people with differeing views, creating inconsistency in characterization and interpretation. Like, if I don't like that part of them, I can just borrow or create a new interpretation, while on Hetalia, if I remove something about the character because I don't like, it would be out of character of them. I'm not bashing on countryhumans fandom, I honestly enjoy the stuff like animations they produce. Also, I know the dark times of Hetalia, I've been there ever since the beginning, and I acknowledge that and probably (hopefully) other Hetalia veterans and newbies too. This all based from what I've encountered and observation, which means, it's leaning towards a more subject point of view ( I don't mean to offend in any way). Lastly, sorry if it's long I just don't know how to explain it properly and concisely since English is hard and not my mother tongue, and if you have read all these, thank you very much, especially for putting up with my terrible grammar/spelling etc.

[@Thot_Patrol_USA]

it’s weird, I want to like the fandom because on one side there are genuinely good videos that I never would have found out about otherwise like limmy’s show, stuck in an elevator, that price is right video, gay or european, and history in one take. then you’ve got the shippers.

[@pluspiping]

While I mostly agree with you, it's important to recognize that "I don't think this is political" is itself often a political statement. Like I would definitely NOT say Hetalia was completely apolitical, despite its largely apolitical intentions. Same thing with the sentiments of "what do you mean this is offensive, this is normal". Mostly, it's going to feel "neutral" to you if it matches your own preconceptions. For example, I'm old enough to remember when it was "normal and not offensive" to insult things as stupid by calling them "gay". It's uh. worth examining. Not worth canceling people about, but definitely worth examining in oneself and one's immediate surroundings. If Mexican fans are trying to explain to you why a Zapata sombrero for Mexico (Countryhumans or Hetalia) might be in poor taste, it's good to listen.

[@Tokio.T]

YES THANK YOU. A BALENCED VIEW!!! no actions are excused or condoned and it is honest to the creators moral values. thank you :)

[@Ellan2]

I was in the fandom and then I moved on to hetelia, I can 100% disguise my love for personified countries now since ppl will just think it’s an anime, but back then I literally hid everything away and I was a very cringy kid. Ch is cool when most of it is history but the shipping is just WHY

[@tpgcandy]

I did not realize that hetalia artist drew that. The moment I saw it I instantly knew who it was. I’m not gonna say who it is. This just teaches me to be more aware about what some of the people I follow draw.

[@tpgcandy]

It’s probably stuff like that, that had kept me away from the Country humans fandom. Most of the art I had seen was either too dark for me or was what would be considered insensitive. However I don’t think thats the entire fandom. I saw it enough though to where I decided imma just stick with Hetalia.

[@pr-hoponass-ussia2379]

This is probably the best I’ve seen talking about the CH fandom. Good job 😁👏

[@Sophia-maria]

Honestly i was originally in the Countryhumans fandom but once i learned of hetalia i fell in love with it manly because it seemed cosmetic made for me and it had most of my interests but i am a bit more political but i still loved it when i started getting more into the fandom mainly because it was a show and it gave me a lot more story ideas (and had more concrete personality for there characters) and it had one of my ideas i love exploring in the countryhumans fandom which was the country might not agree with there leaders i have done some cringeworthy stuff but haven’t we all😅

[@penis01_]

SAME LMAO

[@simplxy_lavender8086]

As a fellow russian, I’m so ashamed of my people. That stuff isn’t even Russian humour-ish. Disgusting.

[@emrox4181]

Hetalia, Country Human's and Country Balls? All we need now is Scandinavia and the World. 😊🤣

[@meruvinyl]

YES SATW

[@PC_Simo]

My thoughts, exactly. Even ”Afghanis-tan” was mentioned, but not ”SatW”, for some reason 🤔.

[@HonHonHonk]

This is probably one of the first videos that has actually made me feel BAD over this fandom. I'm a country humans fan, i'm in the fandom and i've always kind of hated it. Well not always, but since I left and then came back. There was always this sort of sense of, It's gross, It's insensitive, the fandom is toxic. ect. ect. I have just kind of adapted to live with that. Sometimes I watch this type of video, usually it's something along the lines of "Country Humans suck, here's why" and I usually just kind of sit there nodding my head. But this actually made me sort of think about it, there where positive and negative opinions, an "less- tainted" perspective, and generally just a lot deeper of a look into it. Idrk where i'm going with this but it did make me both pity this fandom and remember how much I love it and why i'm still here. yeah idk

[@noodlesoframen7350]

"His hobbies are jumping the American border" everyone too soft, im Mexican, and that was really funny-

[@phoboba]

Hetalia in my opinion having not watched it is more comedy than actual information(pls tell me if I’m wrong) countryhumans is more information and historically accurate. But the Countryhumans have plently or problems especially the shipping. But it’s getting better I see where people have started moving away from ships and being just platonic.

[@Bluesonofman]

Chad Hetala vs virgin country humans

[@darkfrost-star6317]

The wiki for this fandom was so bad that it got completely erased from the fandom wiki website. Just think about that for a second...

[@pinkdiamond1847]

Which one? I don't use fandom wiki but that sounds like it could apply to both fandoms.

[@darkfrost-star6317]

@@pinkdiamond1847 Countryhumans

[@pinkdiamond1847]

@@darkfrost-star6317 Wow. I think even Steven Universe still has a fandom wiki. That means there is a fandom worse than Steven Universe.

[@Rededthedead]

Disclaimer: *this is opinion based!* Making a good countryhumans character isn’t easy. I believe research should go into making a countryhumans character. As an American, I really shouldn’t Just be going in willy nilly and making Pakistan (for example) without any research. I don’t know a lot about the country. I believe the countryhumans should represent the country as a whole and that cannot be achieved without learning about it first. Having said that, *I’m a nerd.* I enjoy the research, I love learning about history and politics! I could research this shiz for hours. It’s easy enough for me to say.

[@maggotsaysbork3846]

I can agree with you there, but I usually have them as whatever I want them to be lol. I usually don't make many references to the actual country and go "You know what? I'm gonna have [insert country here] just absolutely love Shrek for no reason whatsoever". Sure, I'll make little references to stereotypes here and there (IE: Russia being a bit of an alcoholic), but I try my best to not go too far. And with N@zi Germany and such, I make sure I still show them as fucking assholes, which is what they are and not just fuck around with them.

[@Rededthedead]

@@maggotsaysbork3846 Mhm mhm! And that’s where the human part of the Countryhuman shines the most, if you ask me. That part is usually quicker to establish for me lol. I kept some things from the overall Countryhumans stuff, like USA’s sunglasses. I thought it was funny, and it didn’t offend my honor, so I kept them. People have interests and things they enjoy. The countryhuman might be interesting when it’s entirely history based, but not very exciting, relatable, or engaging. Basic interests kinda humanize them a little more.

[@maggotsaysbork3846]

@@Rededthedead Yeah! I've kept a few different things in most of my countryhumans too, but I don't only base them on politics or history and stuff because I like them to be more like actual people rather than literal landmasses if that makes sense

[@Rededthedead]

@@maggotsaysbork3846 It lets a person build up a character, in the same way OCs do, and let all sorts of “whatevers” run wild. General, fun, (sometimes) harmless character building. I also love psychology and observing human nature, and being able to make it go hand and hand with history is just *the best* for me.

[@maggotsaysbork3846]

@@Rededthedead I completely agree with you there! Being fully honest, most of my countryhuman AUs are just OCs at this point shfd

[@adventurenora]

18:06 NOO WHO HAS THE HEART TO DRAW GERMANY LIKE THIS 😭😭

[@lupus4404]

Imma do a hot take on this, most countryhuman fans are in fact children, which is quiet odd tbh seeing as most don’t know what a lot of these countries. And it’s so weird that a lot of is romantic which is weird. Though, some do the fandom quite well. Some don’t take it far, some does make it mature

[@My-sunflower]

Ok let me just say. I swear countryhumans are a way for kids or teens in tough situations to cope. For example maybe your parents are divorced and you and your sibling have to separate. Then you might turn to east or west Germany because you feel like you can relate. You to were separated from a half of you. Your not thinking about it as a country or history your thinking about it like Germanys a person. I know this sounds ridiculous but I mean it makes sense. Everyone has different ways to cope.

[@sab5686]

Really insightful video, as always. the culture clash part was interesting, cause i've experienced it myself going from america to bosnia

[@BritishRat573]

As someone who loves countryhumans and hetalia, i love both of them as they're both diffrent in their own ways! it's amazing to see diffrent veiws from other people. (and no i don't draw p0rn of countryhumans, that's weird.. but rule34 is a thing so people can't get mad at a fandom for that hahahha-)

[@Zapporah85]

This actually brings up a recent discussion in my Japanese class regarding Swastikas: I'm an American, I've lived in Japan, studied the language off and on, and worked for a Japanese company for many years. I'm finally buckling down and getting a degree in the language to meet visa requirements and improve my language ability. The other day, we were discussing slang, emoji's, and texting in Japan. The guest, an exchange student from Japan, started crossing her arms and going "oh yeah!" And I'm like "huh, I wonder what emoji this is supposed to be..." And then she drew a swastika on the board. As a white American with German and Jewish heritage, my checks clenched a little. But for the woman speaking, it was just another emote. Japan doesn't have the same history that we do. I'm still not sure if that makes it right to use it as an emote, but still. Certainly as a religious symbol, I think it's acceptable for Buddhism and Hinduism (I think that's the other one, apologies if I'm wrong) to use since they're who it was stolen from.

[@PC_Simo]

Yeah; also, Jainism (I believe).

[@miavia4689]

It's was hooked cross not swastika

[@PC_Simo]

@@miavia4689 I believe a hooked cross is a type of swastika, though (namely, the type that Nazis used) 🤔.

[@hristy1160]

as someone who was currently in this fandom since 2019 i agree a lot with this. The fact you made this review a lot more open minded unlike some of the others, people many say "ch is the worst fandom" like they can't realize that every fandom has both bad and good sides

[@Dioxazine_Stars]

That was a great overview! I thought you brought up some really interesting points, and I appreciated you doing your best to present the facts in an impartial way, telling both the good and bad. I’ve been a Hetalia fan for a few years, and I’ve felt myself slowly being sucked towards the CH/CB fandoms by proxy. It’s good to know what to avoid and just generally what to expect in general.

[@Cryystallos]

OMG THANK GOD- Coming from someone who has been in this fandom for 2 years, this is a pretty good review!! Oh yea btw I recently joined the hetalia fandom and your videos have been a huge help to get more context on the series since I can’t watch much of the anime.

[@thelocalscp5193]

You are pretty accurate about this all buuuuut Its actually changing. Many communites on pretty many platforms (discord, amino are pretty large hot spots for this) are against it. I own an community on my own and we have banned already some time ago swastikas, Third Reich × Soviet Union ships and even wrong roleplaying of some characters. Many of the Countryhumans fans are against those things but still there are the bad appels amongst it all....the sad thing is just that people only count these in.

[@raphael_2006]

You're right. The fandom is starting to get more mature and take action against those things. It's even started to split, I think. Personally, me and my friends have humanized them further like the Hetalia fandom has, and keep world leaders and citizens separate. Bad history is also kept separate this way, as in, these characters didn't commit atrocities themselves. It's seems to be getting..healthier I guess? In the countryhumans fandom? At least with the stuff I've seen in the past few months. Hopefully.

[@MDPace]

It’s so weird that I’m not even political , but I love both hetalia and countryhumans lol. But this analysis of the fandom was pretty good 👍🏽

[@-0._Angel.of.Death._]

As someone who has been in the countryhumans fandom since 2019, I'll say this is true about the whole fandom.

[@conejitorosada2326]

Hello! As someone that used to be in the fandom, I got very lucky on landing where it was relatively safe and didn't have any of that problems, sure there were A LOT of sexualization but other than that it was quite safe and it was very rare in between since most of us just wanted to Roleplay relationships between countries and Countryhumans is the reason why I'm so invested and in love with history as Countryhumans makes learning history a fun thing as I get to develop my own version, my own vision of a country in my best abilities as accurate as possible while also being as sensitive as possible. So I just wanna thank you on how respectful you are and seeing the good in the very godless and lawless fandom. P.S. In the whole Philippines family thing Perla is a reference to "Perla ng silangang" in our national anthem, it's basically a reference to how The Spanish (and Filipinos today) called the Philippines as "Pearl of the east" because to them it was really beautiful, But I personally don't like it because it's something that the Spanish called the Philippines and not an actual figure.

[@Dumbkid-oo7ot]

As someone who is in the country human fandom, I can say that I really hate the shipping part and the glorification and everything, but the fandom did teach me about flags and history so I can give it that. but with all that said as someone who was in the Hetalia and country human fandom I can say that the shipping and glorification is the worst part.

[@isagacha1015]

agreed

[@rhiabloom12]

I love your analysis/theory videos Kolko. You take a very reasonable approach to topics and put a lot of thought into them. It’s also clear that you are trying hard not to offend anyone.

[@cirrusm.2829]

My favourite country-personification thing is Scandinavia and the World. It's funny and I'd say more accurate in portrayal of european countries than Hetalia. Stuff like Nazi Germany sometimes makes an appearance but is always shown in a negative light. The designs are cute and there are female versions too (I find countryhumans really offputting). It comes with a bonus of focusing on my favourite group of countries. I've learnt quite a few trivia from it. It's essentially what I hoped for Hetalia to be. I still like Hetalia though. I appreciate it a lot for staying mostly in tasteful lines.

[@aleksisgabliks3881]

Satw Finland is simply perfect.

[@PC_Simo]

This sounds pretty much accurate. 👌🏻🎯✅

[@PC_Simo]

@@aleksisgabliks3881 Yes. Very accurate 👌🏻👍🏻. Whereas Hetalia’s Finland is mostly just (anime-ified) Savonia, stereotype-wise; for the understandable reason that Savonia is the Eastern-most part of Finland; and thus, Savonians would, naturally, be the first Finns that most Japanese people would likely come across, when visiting Finland; and, as usual, with most stereotypes, in general, the Savonian-stereotype has an element of truth. However; none of those reasons change the fact that Hetalia’s Finland does not represent the whole (or even most) of Finland.

[@englishfoodsucks]

As a person who was into countryhumans from late 2017-2019 and joined hetalia in 2022 I can comfirm I was crigne kid romanticing n*zis but now i realise how bad i was and I hope ill forget that :')

[@PC_Simo]

Well, (at least, here, in Finland, in the 1990’s-2000’s,) Nazis were a popular gimmick for gay-porn, to the point that parodies and jokes of that reached even a 1000% straight male, such as myself; and, if there’s one thing that’s clear as day, it’s that Nazis and gays do *_NOT_* go together. So, it could be worse, I guess. 🫤

[@lisahampton6345]

As a country human fandom person… You done perfectly.

[@a_random_thing]

Thank you for talking about the CH fandom in a fair way, most people talk about the bad stuff and skip the good things. But you looked into the good in the fandom as well as the bad stuff, to show that not all of the fandom is bad. And didn't say anything to Hateful towards it. So thank you!❤️^^

[@adeaddeity7265]

I prefer to stay on the crackhead side of countyhumans because I essentially got traumatized when I saw the ships 😳 Ok but can the people of CH start doing more jokes, I’m getting scared of all the dark stuff ;-;

[@malokeytheallaround]

That’s probably the only content I like to watch in CH. They’re surprisingly funny! But yeah... anything else is not my cup of tea

[@ashenen2278]

The thing is that people in Eastern Europe either don't care much about political correctness or are able to look at it more lighthearted. Some are just not reall educated, just look at Russia, how people (not all! I know a lot pf Russians disagree with that actions in Ukraine and Ukraine is my country of birth) think that Ukraine is nazist (although my Russian friends and I think that the regime in Russia is fascist or fascistoid)

[@theredzakolka]

>Люди в России не образованы и легко поддаются пропаганде >Но я же не такой, я в жопу лазею рукой, я поддаюсь украинской пропаганде!!! 👍👍👍👍

[@ashenen2278]

@@theredzakolka вах, какая аргументация!))))

[@theredzakolka]

@@ashenen2278 какая аргументация, такой и ответ))))

[@ashenen2278]

@@theredzakolka ну, приятно вам совершать вами описываемые действия. Удачи

[@Clxver_xver]

Creativity is Unlimited, some change history to make their AUs work out, some just ship. I was definitely one of the cringe and offensive kind of shippers. *That* side of the fandom is mostly cursed ships. Some are political, some are just humour, some are for historical accuracy and sprinkle a little twist. If you find one for you, it's fun. If you like *that* side of the fandom, stay away from me.

[@malokeytheallaround]

Everything you went over hit the nail on the head. I have been saying all these things over and over again. Your take is probably the best I’ve heard. Because CH is purely fan made, I have had a REALLY hard time pinpointing the personality of the characters, since everyone interprets them differently. They also very much cling to politics and stereotypes and pass it off as character traits which.... no. Just no. However, even though there’s no canon, there are some HILARIOUS stuff out there that had me rolling. The community I will admit is VERY creative! Lol, a lot of the time it just feels like Vine remastered. There are definitely a lot of things that need to be fixed over there, but they got the spirit.

[@shipperina2213]

As someone from Palestine, I hate seeing how this fandom ships "Israel" with my country, it is gross.

[@cryptical1210]

Wait people actually do that-

[@shipperina2213]

@@cryptical1210 sadly

[@cryptical1210]

@@shipperina2213 late reply but why

[@shipperina2213]

@@cryptical1210 this is oversimplified, but after WW2 European countries moved a bunch of Jewish people to Palestine (Palestine is home to many religions and Judasim was already there; telling you this since there is a misunderstanding that it is a Muslim vs. Jewish conflict, which isn't the case at all) the Europeans tried to make a compromise to share, which Palestinians weren't to happy about. After a while of not getting along a Jewish leader declared to take control of the land and name it 'Israel' which caused a war to broke out, but thanks to England taking away our weapons, we were unable to defend ourselves and was easily lost. My family ran away from the war and became refugees, we are unable to go back to Palestine at all. If you follow the news during the past years, Israel having been kicking Palestinians out of their houses, bombing hospitals and schools, killing many people even children, banned Muslims from praying in a sacred place of worship during a holy month, and much more.

[@cryptical1210]

@@shipperina2213 oh man i'm SO sorry you and your family had to go through that. It really disgusts me how some people take this lighly and ship Israel with Palestine together. Even if they are little kids they should know better, because doing these things is really harmful to others. Tbh i will never understand why some people can be this level of sick to do these type of things.

[@Sun0ooo]

I love the country humans fandom but I also hate it 💀

[@Winter-gx9qh]

same

[@MugzD]

for me, im part of the 'easterners' i would not like 'westerners' tells us to change our humor. but i do agree..that there are fuck tons of contents that makes me go "yikes" but ill give it time to adjust its fairly young fandom, and time to time i do see people calling out problematic content...though I do mostly hangout in countryball or hetalia..cuz hetalia has done their cringe time and have veterans..countryball in reddit has very strict rules..(i saw warnings on comics with innacurate flag color/shade, its not allowed) i just treat countryhumans like horoscope..i dont take it seriously or hang around it..but just enjoy it whenever i come across a good one

[@sleepyotaku42]

This was a fantastic analysis and you summed up basically all my thoughts about Hetalia, CountryHumans, and culture clashes in fandoms. Honestly, I think CountryHumans has a lot of potential to be a great medium for sharing political opinions, but at least to me the bad outweighs the good, and overly political spaces become overwhelming to me personally. And I loved your analysis on culture clashes and how "offensive" things might not appear that way to some people. I think a lot of people these days (especially on the internet) are way to quick to be outraged at things without understanding the perspective and cultures of other people. Which is really sad because sharing culture is awesome. And I know this is a total nitpick but please hear me out: Next time, please don't automatically assume that people are going to cancel you for sharing your opinions. I know having unpopular opinions on the internet can be scary, but assuming you're automatically going to get cancelled is kind of disrespectful to your sane fans (AKA the people who actually matter), you know?

[@Motherrussia-_-]

I am a Countryhumans fan and as you said that you can make your own characters and I have thought to make a good version and try to stay as most responsible of what I put out their 😅😊

[@PixelatedEclipse21]

A younger person in the countryhumans fandom here, I hate shipping like bro who ships TR x USSR? I think the shipping is declining but I’m not sure. TR. A comfort character. The heck. A countryhuman show would help as it will add more like personality stuff and help remove the ships.

[@sloppycivilian-1365]

bruh a show? that would be wild af. and what weirdos would even work on that. damn imagine still being into country humans tho. I was there.... in the beginning. and man the moment shit hit the fan I was OUT. so run while you still can

[@TheGalacticCat]

just finished watching the premiere. thank you for bringing up my points :D

[@LordDomielOfElysium]

In country humans if a country (kinda like USSR) breaks up then all the countries that form afterwards from the scraps of said fallen country is what makes them “related” Just to clear things up 👍🏻