Brand New! EG4 12000XP Off Grid Inverter Full Install And Review!

[@CountryLivingExperience]

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[@cplbitterklinger594]

What kind of panels do you have these mounted to?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

@@cplbitterklinger594 I have two different panels types in three different strings. Two strings have 455w Solarever panels and the other has 415w Sirius panels.

[@cplbitterklinger594]

@@CountryLivingExperience I'm sorry, I meant the panels that your inverters are mounted on. Thanks for the response.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

@@cplbitterklinger594 Ah, I understand. Those are Hardie backer panels from Home Depot. Fire resistant

[@stephanied143]

the inverters just keep getting better .

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Absolutely

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

Thanks for sharing Eric! Nice to see more info on this. Just to clarify (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="72">1:12</a>). The inverter features two sets of terminals per MPPT, enabling you to parallel strings directly at the inverter. However, it’s important to note that it does not have two separate trackers. The advantage of having two terminals per MPPT is that you can connect two smaller strings using smaller gauge wires directly to the inverter, rather than combining strings at the array with a combiner box and running larger gauge wire back to the inverter.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Thanks. I may have misread the info on the mppt's. I thought they were similar to the divided trackers in the 12Kpv. Wouldn't be the first time I misread something.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@CountryLivingExperience No worries. Lots of data to mull over. With the 12kPV, even that just has the ability to parallel 2 strings together into a single tracker. It has 4 sets of terminals but only 2 MPPTs.

[@jordanwitherow6324]

I’m a little confused on how to get 24,000 watts without going over the 385 voltage per mppt. What would a combination of panels look like to get this.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@jordanwitherow6324 I'm not sure what panels EG4 used to get up to the 24kW of solar. I would imagine even though 385V is the top of the "operating range" you may have to get closer to the 480V of the max input range without going over.

[@HybridShedIraq]

I want to add that you must parallel panels with the same type and identical number of panels facing the same direction per MPPT.

[@alexisnicole3965]

I had no idea of these boxes for panels, well explained.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Thanks

[@clarencewiles963]

You did yourself proud. Thumbs up 👍 on your journey ✅

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Thanks so much

[@idahoduckhunter]

Looking forward to the load test 👍

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="393">6:33</a> the look on his face, lmao.Great Video man, I might consider getting one of those, I think it was a good idea keeping that other inverter on the wall just in case something goes bad with the new one

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Lol! Thanks. Yea, I didn't want to completely tear things down just in case.

[@kenwoods472]

Really appreciate all of your videos. I have a 12000xp with 2 eg4 indoor wallmount batteries. I see a lot of green wires in your video with no explanation. Are those ground wires to each battery?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Yes. Those are all grounds. I thought I mentioned it early on in the video.

[@warrenanderson9667]

Great job. Love your videos. Definitely going to upgrade my system.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[@bryancox2534]

It would be nice to see someone do a test on these worth or connected to the grid as a backup. I have a pretty stable grid here that I would want to connect to my 12000xp (set to arrive on Friday), just in case.

[@MCBuildNH]

Did the junction box above the battery fit all the holes for the wires off the 12,000xp?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

No. The holes match with the 12Kpv and the 18Kpv. For the 12000xp, you need to turn the top of the box around so that the large slot is open and aligns with the bottom of the 12000. I may show a vid on that soon.

[@Tuggs]

Would love to see a video on the grid boss by EG4. I know this one is off grid but was wondering if it could be incorporated with some smart breakers from a grid tied solar system like emphases micro inverters.

[@wesbutler8289]

How the heck is one to keep up with EG4? Seems like they come out with something bigger and better every month!😀😀

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I hear that! They are full steam ahead all the time.

[@godsblade300S]

✌️😜 Always clear ,& honest info 😁💒 Thanks Brother ⚔️✡️ God Bless us All 🇺🇸🙏✝️

[@NateMorello111]

Do you know the maximum wire size that will fit in the Grid and Load connections on the 12,000xp? I know it gives a min size in the manual.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

It feels like you could fit 2awg or even 1awg in those terminals because there is a bit of room. I did not test that out though.

[@tjmooney4181]

Im having a hard time deciding between the flex boss or 12000xp to replace my 18kpv for my completely off grid property 🤔 the 600v of ov and 10 year warranty is pushing me towards the flex boss

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I understand. You just have to weight the value between each. It is a hard choice. Why are you getting rid of your 18Kpv?

[@electricandlspower]

I have a 18kpv and like it I would go up to the flex because it has more pv input and the load the fans start should be higher but if u want redundancy grab 2 12000xp for 5k basically the cost of one 18k?.? Crazy times inverters change so much in one year 😊

[@tjmooney4181]

@electricandlspower thanks I agree, I'm an installer for sigsolar so I like to install all the new products I offer so I can get familiar with them and since I and 90% of my clients are completely off grid the 18kpv is not the most efficient option

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I understand now TJ. I think the 12000xp would be the way to go. I am still working through whether I want the redundancy of 2 or 3 6000xp's or a 12000xp. Additionally, the redundancy of the EG4-LL's vs. the wall mounts. Tough choices....but glad to have choices.

[@tjmooney4181]

Thanks im am installer for sigsolar so i like to install and get familiar with the new products. 90% of my clients and i are completely off grid so the 18kpv is not the most efficient option ​@CountryLivingExperience

[@larrymiller7128]

Do the panels have to be all the same? Or can you run different ones on different strings? The reason I ask is that I have 20 550 watts on my 10kw system n 22 320w with my 6kw..can I use them together in one system with that inverter?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

You can run different panels in different strings with no problem. Just keep within the voltage parameters of the mppt. Each input on the inverter (4) can take up to 480v.

[@larrymiller7128]

@CountryLivingExperience thank you . Have a blessed Christmas

[@burrowsal]

I am looking at getting the 12000XP and two of those batteries. Do you need one of the conduit kits or one for each battery (buy two)? Thanks and Go Green!

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Cool. You would need 2 conduit kits and 1 battery parallel kit (batt cables with connectors on both ends). Go White!

[@burrowsal]

@ thank you! Keep up the great work!

[@wbarkwell]

I plan to order a 12000XP. I will NOT have any solar to use with the XP. I understood that just like needing 400ah of battery, I MUST have solar attached for the XP to produce the outputs intended. Is there any reason that I MUST have some solar ATTACHED ?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Why buy a solar inverter and not use solar? Most off-grid inverters need solar input to function well.

[@byronshepherd8415]

I hear you on what the manual says; but, will the thing run on just one EG4 wall mount battery?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

No. Rodney Hunt did an experiment on his channel and the inverter did not run correctly with one battery. You need two of them or get 4 EG4-LL or LifePower batteries.

[@byronshepherd8415]

@@CountryLivingExperience thanks for the tip. I went over to watch Rodney's video, and it seems he concluded it works fine, as long as you don't over-draw the battery. It seems, at least to my understanding, that you can use one wallmount battery, but you will NOT be able to utilize the full output of the inverter. But, as long as you're not hitting the battery to the tune of more than 1/2C, you should be ok. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I fully embrace my Dunning-Kruger

[@CountryLivingExperience]

@@byronshepherd8415 You are correct. I wouldn't want to risk it though. You could have surges in your loads or need a higher draw at some point. Also, the investment in the 12k xp would not be the best financially if that is the case. Just get a 6000xp and use 1 battery at full power.

[@byronshepherd8415]

@CountryLivingExperience thanks 👍

[@MarkNeuhaus-g5f]

Yes, it can but it doesn't run well and it can hurt the system and you need to save the money for another battery! 🔋 There are KZbin videos about this matter.

[@electromechanicalstuff2602]

Does this inverter suffer from the same charging from grid/ gen as the rest. When charging it goes into bypass? I really want the ability to charge from geny while still inverting so I can max out charging and then not overload the Genny when a load in my house kicks in.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Not sure that is an issue more than a safety feature. One power source at a time. I don't use my genny through my inverters. I use a separate Chargeverter connected to the battery bus bars. That way I can charge the batts separately while running the house on either the grid or the panels.

[@MNsportsman]

How many of those wall mount batteries can you hook up to one 12000xp? We are building a new home this spring, and i want to build an off grid solar system for our power. I'd like to run 6 of those wall mount batteries. Will i need another 12000, or would i get one 12000 and one 6000?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

You can add 3 batteries per inverter. You would need 2 inverters for 6 batts. Either 2 6000xp's or 2 12000xp's. You can't mix the 6000 and 12000 unless you get really creative with your wiring.

[@imnguyen6658]

Oh no. Don’t make me regret going with the Victron Multiplus 😢

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Multipluses are nice. I have two on a separate system. This 12000xp is an amazing value for the money. It can do a lot.

[@GopherWoodshop]

So to clarify how many panels do you need to charge two batteries and to provide power from the inverter at the same time? Are they saying you need 24000 watts of solar panels?🙏

[@CountryLivingExperience]

They are not saying you *need* 24k watts, that is the maximum that the inverter can take. You can start with 3 or 6 panels if you want. Those panels would need to just have a voltage combined in series of at least 120 volts for proper operation and no more than 480v. A good range is between 120 and 385 volts for each string for each mppt (charge controller) in the inverter. For example you could have only 3 panels that are 41v each, run them in series (which adds their voltage to 123v), then the inverter will work and charge batteries. The questions always is....How long will it take to charge batteries while running loads? The answer is.....The more the better. We did a video on this here.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHy1o5SKpaehfdE That may help.

[@GopherWoodshop]

@@CountryLivingExperience Thanks fro the quick reply, really helpful cheers

[@CountryLivingExperience]

You're welcome

[@JBPowell-y9m]

Are you going to add another ground mount array for the new inverter and max out your PV input?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I don't have room for many more panels but I will add a just few more.

[@JBPowell-y9m]

@CountryLivingExperience sure you do, don't you have like 7 acres lol

[@michiganengineer8621]

You might use (some of) that potential 72kW power for a swimming pool filter/heater system. Maybe you have a good sized wood and/or metal shop? Charge up your electric fence to "Super-Max" levels maybe? Have a BUNCH of computers mining crypto currency as another option, along with running your air-conditioning super hard to keep them cool. I agree, other than redundancy, going for 6 would be more than a little bit silly! Can you do a hardwire ethernet to connect to the inverter or does it HAVE to be WiFi? If it has to be WiFi that would make it difficult if you put the inverter(s) and batteries in a freestanding building a short distance from the house.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I think there is a way to hardwire ethernet but I do not know how personally. I have heard it is possible but one will have to sit on the phone with the EG4 guys for a while. Yes, that is the same issue I ran into with my Victron system at my barn. No internet wifi way out there. It is an extreme challenge to do firmware updates, etc.

[@Mik-ha-El]

I just looked on signature Solar’s website and could only find the 12000xp for $3499

[@CountryLivingExperience]

You looked at the 12Kpv not the 12000xp. Scroll further down the page and you will see the correct inverter for $2499

[@gubbool]

What’s with the EG4 and it’s fail to function with common generators for off-grid uses!?!

[@CountryLivingExperience]

What are you talking about? It doesn't.

[@maxgor7959]

Have you experienced warning 28 error? it is a false EPS overload error that is not fixed yet on this inverter. Waiting for a firmware fix.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Yes, we have. We did a firmware update and that seems to have fixed it.

[@tjmooney4181]

Thanks 🎉

[@CountryLivingExperience]

You're welcome

[@chrisrichardson8908]

Eg4 has a new system know .I done forgot what the call it but it supposed to make hooking up ur system easier

[@idahoduckhunter]

GridBoss

[@CountryLivingExperience]

This system is easy to hook up

[@gabaradama144k9]

In your opinion, how important is it to ground the batteries?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Important because it is a safety issue. The more one can do to be safe the better.

[@umustbbornagainActs2-38]

Good day Eric. We have 16 wooden acres that we're currently building a 3 shipping container home on. What would you recommend for a 100% offgrid situation? We're not pulling from the local grid at all. We will be on solar, propane, and the occasional generator for charging batteries in case of extended periods without sunlight. We're in central arkansas. Would love to hear your thoughts :-)

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Good question. It is really going to depend on what you loads are. I am not sure what you are running at your new home. You'll have to do that calc to get a better picture. That said, you will have to decide if redundancy is right for you (with a few 6000xp's) or just having one unit like the 12000xp. I would stick with one of the pure off-grid inverters because you would not need the grid interactive features of a Hybrid inverter. The off-grids are cheaper too. We also have a Victron system for our barn which seems to be bulletproof.

[@umustbbornagainActs2-38]

@CountryLivingExperience Thank you. I'm so thankful for this channel :-)

[@CountryLivingExperience]

@@umustbbornagainActs2-38 You're welcome.

[@simon359]

What’s the minimum amount of battery amp hours for two EG4 6000’s? Versus one. 🖖

[@idahoduckhunter]

Manual says >=200Ah for one 6000XP

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Good question. It is 200ah for one 6000xp but it is unclear if that number multiplies with the addition of more inverters.

[@idahoduckhunter]

@@CountryLivingExperience Manual says per inverter

[@simon359]

@ Does that mean 400 amp hours for two EG4 6000?

[@idahoduckhunter]

@ yes because look at the watts. Two 6000xp needs to be able to do 12kw of continuous not to mention the surge. 1x Battery: 200Ah x 48v = 9600 watts 2x battery: 400Ah x 48v = 19200 watts

[@jimpowell9205]

I would be ‘jazzed’, at this 12000XP product, if the PV input could handle 500vdc. Why not 500vdc?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

I could ask you the same. Why 500? There are hardly any inverters on the market that will handle 500. 480 is plenty.

[@jimpowell9205]

@ the higher the PV, the more panels you can use, on the direction sunlight days! More is better!

[@CountryLivingExperience]

@jimpowell9205 This inverter can take more PV than almost any other inverter on the market, if any. 24000w.

[@JakeWilund]

If anyone's getting this and selling a 6000XP, let me know. I'm looking to expand my system.

[@vt20247]

How? I don't need the 12k version. I will never use up that solar capacity of 4k each, for a total of 8k solar input. My electricity daily consumption is 20kw a day!

[@carolmoline6490]

$. ?

[@CountryLivingExperience]

$2499

[@GREGGRCO]

It's too bad networking into the unit is against the law.

[@MarkNeuhaus-g5f]

I use 532 kwh for one month in a year in the summer for an air conditioner and the rest of the year I use 200-300 kwh per month on the electric grid. Plus I want more power to run more items. How much AC output can this Eg4 inverter unit produce or throw out? Do I need more Eg4 inverters to handle the load? I have (16) 540 Watts solar panels plus (22) 400 watts in total. I live in Michigan. Can I run 100 feet 2/2/2/4 aluminum mobile home feeder wire out of the home to hook up the Eg4 inverter to the (pv) solar panels to save money because I need to run the solar panels out about 350 feet to my open field! I'm going to have 4 sets of wires (6 awg) for the Eg4 inverter for all my solar panels. Then I have 100 feet 2-2-2-4 wire hook up to one house then I have another house about 50 feet away and this system is all hooked together. Can this Eg4 inverter run through the whole system this way I'm talking about? Because it works on the electric grid? Can I have a 100 amp breaker box for this system? And what size of sub breaker box do I need because I think I have 50 amps sub breaker boxes for the other two houses. And the main breaker I have is a 65 amp that is hooked up to the electric grid I think. So thank you for your help! Have an awesome holiday day and JUSUS CHRIST bless you!

[@maxgor7959]

Have you experienced warning 28 error? it is a false EPS overload error that is not fixed yet on this inverter. Waiting for a firmware fix.

[@CountryLivingExperience]

Yes, I have. I did a firmware update and it has cleared up the error.