Court of Appeals questions state over judge taking away "constitutional right" of parents

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[@SilentBallShop]

OUTCOME: After the state spent more than 450 hours (and our tax dollars) defending the juvenile court judge's decision, the appeals court ruled in favor of the family reaffirming a parent's right to have an attorney and be heard at these hearings.

[@educationmail759]

Rebecca - what happened to the parents are they in prison? If so how many years dod they get? What is the name of their attorney who is arguing in this video? Do you know the case number on this?

[@patrickurquidez4693]

Nothing is wrong with that. If you are accused of a crime, you need a lawyer to fight for your rights. So, are you going to refuse one just because he/she represented someone who killed their child. If you do that, have fun in prison even if you're innocent.

[@sonyad924]

Thank you for the update.

[@notsure5702]

@@patrickurquidez4693 you missed the entirety of the case.

[@davidgarza8681]

@D Smith Your rights are given up the moment you hire an attorney. A Fourteenth Amendment citizen (aka U.S. citizen) doesn't have rights, only "privileges" granted by Congress. Codes are for those who don't know who they are and the law. Its no different with police, they enforce codes, not law.

[@shandinalani32]

Yall I'm almost in tears. DID YALL SEE THE PASSION THESE JUDGES HAD TOWARDS THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE??? I love these men. We need more men and women like them getting into law!!!

[@nemo9540]

Sadly though on a state level they're few and far between.

[@sosscarz]

With the way the country is moving forward these type of judges are despise or shamed. Groups are trying to tear down our constitution day by day. Very sad but you’re right these judges are fucking awesome.

[@jimcrosby3944]

@@nemo9540 And worse yet, how long before these judges are replaced by a new breed of judges that has no clue how the constitution is supposed to work let alone rights

[@crabbyj]

@@sosscarz - I agree...and most of them that are trying, are folks that express opinions similar to yours. I know how it works for you guys... Upholding the constitution = doing things which comply with my personal views. Tearing down the constitution = doing things of which I disagree.

[@willedwards7009]

they are the majority. its the paranoid ramblings of the “conspiracy crowd” that questions it and allows for people like Trump to con us out of our democracy.

[@sethfroman7044]

Bravo to the judges. They were pissed. Good for them to smacking around the state a bit. Good for them.

[@marioefraim4308]

You sound like a Babylonian drone

[@voiceofreason7558]

@@marioefraim4308 what do you think should have happened?

[@marioefraim4308]

@@voiceofreason7558 I can admit that after the judge tried to back up the other judges not being impartial that they both need to be recused on the case.i stopped watching shortly after. So that's without debating particulars. Anything that sets the precedent to a judge not being impartial and using his official office to promote his own agenda or do his own thing is treasonous and tyrannical. We elect our officials we give up our sovereignty to them. Since we do this through A swindle at the hospital that contracts us to the citizenship, at root we're dealing with fraudulent contracts and where the scapegoat to these administrators. it sets a very dangerous precedent moving forward and in no time should this ever be allowed or accepted by the people under any circumstance.

[@marioefraim4308]

@@voiceofreason7558 all officials are required to register under the foreign agent registration act. This is a requirement. The United States is a corporate entity, so in reality we're dealing with office to office commerce so Appelant is a fictitious entity it's an it! So being that a misrepresentation of the man and woman is being propagated in court and bad faith through a swindle they're all dealing in human trafficking and we the people are the scapegoats and victims as well because we don't understand the contracts that we've been swindled into since this is done at birth through bastardizing the child and using the mother's maiden name. They declare the child abandoned and the state takes custody and we're only given legal guardianship. That's why when there's a custody case both parents have to actually file for custody to prove that they're fit to be guardians and to have the child released back to the parent. Should I go further and debate any particulars in the other end?

[@marioefraim4308]

@@voiceofreason7558 human trafficking by a foreign entity?

[@erkell5]

These 3 judges deserve to be recognized! One of the few times a judge saw and heard something was wrong and did the right thing rather than have another judges back. THIS is how our judicial branch is supposed to work. They are supposed to have our backs because they serve us.

[@erkell5]

While she tries to plead for them to sweep it under the rug.

[@patrickhenderson6932]

I was the mom who endured this horrific abuse of child protective services and a terrible Juvenile judge in Coweta County. I will never forget sitting in that court room that day and it was like a million tons had been lifted because of these amazing judges and amazing attorneys who actually stood up for us and knew our children were stolen from us by these heartless social workers and judge! I can’t thank them enough, and I will tell everyone it’s been almost 8 years and my family is still happy and together thanks to them! It’s gut wrenching knowing that so many people are dealing with the same issues we had, and aren’t able to get the help they deserve. Thank everyone for your support and amazing comments! For anyone who is enduring Gov. entities intruding into their lives and telling you how to live and controlling every aspect of your life while using your children as bait please do whatever it takes to hire your own lawyer and not one of the good ol’ boys that currently work for the county or city that you’re currently dealing with cps or Juvenile Court at. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, you have to learn how the law works and do whatever it takes to save your family from destruction, because that’s what almost all case workers and juvenile courts will do! The problem is they have sovereign immunity and can’t be sued or arrested while they’re under uniform rules. Just please learn how and why the law works and you will win!

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

❤ God bless you and your family ❤😊

[@johnflynn5044]

So your drug addiction, which you chose over your children, led to these proceedings ? Might be better if you didnt comment...

[@CatherineAustin-mommymafia]

West Virginia has been doing this to me since 2019 to present day I awaiting supreme Court of appeals now my attorney wv appointed has refused to fight for me since 2019 to present day

[@PokeMaster03]

​@@johnflynn5044 the judge and CPS fucked up end of discussion.

[@ashielarry]

Unfortunately, I have to disagree. All parents in Georgia signed their children over to the State whenever you go to a State ran hospital, register your child with the state, and get a “Birth Certificate.” People need to read. What is is a “Registrar?” It all has to do with Deeds and Titles. Parent gave the State the legal title to their children and in exchange to equitable title. When you go up against any of the “agencies” they are using Administrative Procedures under Color of Law; basically contract law disguised as Equitable Law.

[@mushroommcfarmer1766]

Oh my gosh it feels so GREAT to hear these judges blast the logic of those lower court rulings.

[@mynineandi]

I only wish the judge had to be present and in the shoes of the state.

[@ObservationofLimits]

Now if only they disbarred him and brought him up on criminal charges.

[@MelkorTolkien]

@@ObservationofLimits That might be coming.

[@machninety7334]

When your job is to judge the people, you only see them through a critical lense, so you develop a hate for them and seek to step outside of your limitations from the constitution. When your job is to enforce the constitution, you focus on anything that steps outside of these boundaries. If only the lower courts were held accountable to this level of logic.

[@bobsaturday4273]

and what did that do for the kids rights now that drug addicts rights are established ?

[@alastermyst]

Citizens face prison time for breaking the law. When judges, cops, etc. violate the law and the constitutional rights of citizens why shouldn't they face prison time?

[@adr3ns]

Because the constitution is ignored & equal protection under the law was murdered by qualified immunity

[@NotJessH]

@@adr3ns Qualified immunity is bullish!t & should be done away with. No one deserves a license to lie.

[@bpmomene2737]

Because they make the rules. and the last thing they need is a rule that can bite them in the arse

[@dvdadaudits7500]

Judges have Absolute immunity. Its even better than Qualified immunity.

[@kelleylynch4490]

It's time to put them in prison.

[@mehameha4453]

The whole Georgia System is unconstitutional! Best line ever.

[@kai82holman69]

Trust isn't in the case law! I love that!

[@edwardmiessner6502]

And then there's Nevada's which is Unconstitutional on steroids. Did you know the state out there says you don't have a right to a jury trial even in felony cases? 🤦🤦🤷

[@pamelamorris3148]

@@edwardmiessner6502 this is so wrong and sadly you see it more and more with the covid-19 shut down and new law's for the court room. Many court cases are going forward without even giving the person charged a fair hearing or even be present for their preliminary hearing. The judges along with the state's atty making the decision alpne to convict or indict and full out refusing to allow the defendant or the defendants attorney even in the room or meeting, not even by zoom. This is 100% a direct violation of any person's rights to know the state's evidence prior to the court case to have charges modified or thrown out all together. They aren't giving people their fair trials, they aren't doing the preliminary hearings, and are convicting people by modifying whatever rules they want to rob the defendant of their rights.

[@danieljones317]

This goes on in ALL states! CPS is a common agency, no matter what three letters they want to hide it under, but all work the SAME WAY.

[@marioefraim4308]

It really is they don't even have a preliminary stage to see if there's probable cause to go to trial

[@drrichardpaul]

Wow. The appeals court in this case really hammered the judge for misconduct. It's unfortunate that the juvenile court judge wasn't brought up on ethics charges.

[@sislertx]

They.should be removed and any LISCENSE removed and be held.reaponsible for.all.costa both SIDES

[@kelleylynch4490]

Or removed from the bench, disbarred, and imprisoned.

[@Melthornal]

the Georgia judiciary removed the ethics board because they kept punishing judges

[@thengine7]

@@Melthornal are you serious? I believe it. Now Georgia has voter restriction laws. Just par for the course of an authoritarian state.

[@Melthornal]

@@thengine7 I am dead serious. Georgia passed legal reform building one of the strongest ethics boards in the country and the judges all got pissed off because they kept getting in trouble and they ruled the ethics board illegal for totally bogus reasons. You can look it up, it was a really big deal. I think this american life did an episode about it. They even have the judges caught on an audio recording conspiring to make the ethics boards illegal, but no judge was willing to take on the case so they couldnt press charges.

[@JamesCrow1974]

The judge on the right is smiling because he knows, the state has done f'ed up.

[@lady4191]

I love love love that the judge is so insulted by these laws. Please help us change it judge.

[@mrskearney6045]

I agree! I was cheering the judges on!!

[@lizcollinson2692]

That and being able to put himself in those parents shoes. If you can take thier kids you could take mine ...

[@philipem1000]

The judge wasn't insulted by the laws he was saying the laws weren't followed and he was insulted by that.

[@kai82holman69]

I do too

[@inspectorforyou7624]

Everyone should copy this lawyers argument to fight the state. CPS etc

[@tallybandz3108]

These are real stand up judges i wish all our judges were like this i swear godbless them all

[@ObservationofLimits]

Given how many fucked legal systems I've witnessed (from the cops to the DA to the judges) this was refreshing to see the whole panel of judges stand up for what's right.

[@bobsaturday4273]

are you f-ed up on drugs too ? stand up for the drug addict parents rights but forget about the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 . or you just wanto forget about the children when you want to blabber about "rights" ?

[@pwest1101]

@@bobsaturday4273 Statistically, it's way more success stories of children who had parents who were addicts, than kids who grow up in the system by being taken away from parents who were addicts🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jseevers81]

@@pwest1101 yeah Clinton let’s save the children! lol

[@CFaith23]

@@bobsaturday4273 The Judge left the children with the parents 6 months. This mother did not look or act like an addict as she sat in front of 3 Georgia Supreme Court Appellate Justices. Obviously, at the onset of this case by every other standard of CPS, these parents provided food, safe housing, clothing, education, healthcare, emotional support, did not put their children in imminent danger or did not neglect their children or the CPS would have removed them the day they came out to investigate and the Judge would not have ordered the children to be able to stay in the home 6 months with their parents. This mother should not have been denied her voice in representing herself or the choice to be represented by legal counsel before these legal proceedings took place -another court date should have been set, since the parents obtained legal council and these children were not in immediate danger. As the attorney for the mother pointed out and I can only image, being a mother myself, the children were traumatized, and in my opinion, kidnapped under the guise of law-the reason for the righteous indignation of these Justices. So Glad to see at the end of it, that this family is still together and that we have God given rights and Constitutionally minded Justices on our Georgia Supreme Court, instead of opinionated ones who make up their own code of conduct standards for the rest of us.

[@EmMae1.0]

These judges ROCK! These are the types of judges we need across the board, across the nation! God bless them!

[@dgmickley]

@Walter Webb how’s that?

[@OhWhoaaaa]

@Walter Webb you’re*

[@OhWhoaaaa]

@Walter Webb just felt you might want to make sure your grammar is correct when trying to call someone clueless 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@planetclownfishbrain7052]

@Walter Webb We need more judges of color that have multiple genital replacements and free bleed.

[@EmMae1.0]

@@OhWhoaaaa LOL Love it!

[@shivasirons6159]

And good for this woman sticking up so passionately for these parents.

[@jakerobles1669]

Good lmao it her job and she’s getting paid and she’s not doing a very good job

[@geralddrolet1]

They need to strike down that whole unconstitutional juvenile code and provide restitution and damages to affected families.

[@bobsaturday4273]

are you f-ed up on drugs too ? stand up for the drug addict parents rights but forget about the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 or you just wanto forget about the children when you want to blabber about "rights" ? considering it was the kids called cps for protection from raging drug addicts in the first place ?

[@patrickday4206]

You must have some experience with them I agree the juvenile system is a joke

[@handley2645mh]

I am shocked that these judges didn't know how easily it is for the state to take your kids away. And I don't live in Georgia.

[@beekeeper8474]

They can fabricate evidence and lie to take your kids and get qualified immunity

[@ld12311231]

It's not just Georgia. Every stinking state in the Union is like this!!

[@MistaCen]

@@beekeeper8474 qualified immunity doesn't make you 2nd amendment proof

[@MistaCen]

@Still Sidda thinking must be hard for you.

[@josephgarrett5693]

@Still Sidda You want me to spell it out for you cupcake?

[@michaelmcginn1621]

Taking children funds the state, its not about the children, its about money, thank God these judges have values.

[@OGimouse1]

The State does not make money by foster care. States usually go into debt taking kids.

[@dickfitswell3437]

I'm willing to be the judges here are conservative. Liberals do not care for children as shown time and time again in their push for a b o r t i o n and funding p l a n n e d p a r e n t h o o d thus making condoms the "back up" birth control behind baby eugenics. So many ppl are unaware that P l a n n e d P a r e n t h o o d was caught within the last 5yrs discussing selling baby parts to medical facilities. They discussed this over a rich dinner out in town. Videos are available on KZbin via Project Veritas channel. Disgusting and now it's legal in CA NY Virginia to end the life even after the baby is born full term.

[@old8235]

Always follow the money.

[@roninkraut6873]

@@OGimouse1 I’m guessing most of these folks here have no idea what actually happens in child welfare.

[@Bob-ln1jh]

They don't call it Friends of the Court for nothing they don't care about the kids it's all about the money

[@lizcopple]

The court of appeals judges were fantastic in my opinion. The juvenile court system needs to be reigned in so that parents retain their constitutional rights. Georgia is not the only state like this when it comes to Dept of Children and Family Services. Florida runs similarly. It needs to be stopped. The overreach of this department is scary.

[@bobsaturday4273]

stand up for the drug addict parents rights but forget about the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 or you just wanto forget about the children when you want to blabber about "rights" ? considering it was the kids called cps for protection from raging drug addicts in the first place ?

[@tylersmith6648]

😂best judges ever. "So you telling me the gov can can just take my kids if they want? Well DAMN I LIVE IN THE WRONG DAMN COUNTRY🤷 epic statement of REASON.....

[@Raphsody86]

These men know the law but they also use that knowledge to question the reasoning behind this cases ridiculousness. They speak with logic and empathy. 👏👏👏

[@dandattola]

Judges in this court give me hope for humanity and courts following the constitution.

[@adrianarisher6518]

Family service forces parents to pledge guilty with promises to keep in parents, and soon after they remove your children

[@spuriouseffect]

What happens when this generation of judges, who still respect the constitution, are no longer there? That's the scary part.

[@beamills9205]

ms. mull......

[@thedog2978]

Yeah. Too bad though that every judge is susceptible to bribes, social pressure and corruption when it comes down to upholding the big fish constitutional cases.

[@thedog2978]

@@spuriouseffect When? We are essentially already living in that age. Look at any high profile case that involves First and Second Amendment issues and how much these shining beacons of justice suddenly sway to bribes and social/political pressure. It's as sickening as it is discouraging.

[@Slasher2005]

These people finally got caught stealing kid’s for a paycheck.

[@dickfitswell3437]

Do y'all know about those 2 democrat judges in NY I believe. Could be a diff state on east coast. Could be wrong. Either way 2 judges are in prison after they were convicted of taking thousands in kickbacks from a new Juvenile holding facility/Juvenile Jail. These judges sent first offenders to jail. One was a good student who mocked her school principal or vice principal on Facebook. They just didn't care. They sent anyone off and didn't matter what for. I was so disgusted when I read that and it was only news worthy for a day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3KreJaLaMSlnMU

[@roninkraut6873]

Except they didn’t. They are questioning the constitutionality of the juvenile court. It’s considered a civil court and not a criminal court. It’s always been an issue because you have to balance the rights of the parents and the rights of the children. A child has a right not to be abused and/or neglected.

[@marioefraim4308]

All children and youth services are human traffickers are and are in it for a paycheck my own caseworker left because of it they are all human trafficking because they are all doing business look up their duns and Bradstreet number the courts and everything they're all a business a for-profit business registered with the securities and exchange commission

[@marioefraim4308]

Contract kidnapping contract human trafficking

[@roninkraut6873]

@Doug Sykes Abused by which one? Both same with the parent. That’s why accountability is crucial in our system. I can only speak for the state in which I live but there are multiple agencies that review the child welfare system to ensure compliance. Not everything is a deep seedy conspiracy

[@williamglahn]

When the judges say Wow okay Wow. You know your case is screwed

[@0130wallace]

My favorite part was the judge asking her, "Since you say it was taken out of context, can you explain how the judge saying, "It's me against you" was taken out of context." She then proceeds to explain how angry and frustrated the judge was over the course of a year... Yeah, that is THE EXACT context in which we all took it and THE EXACT wrong answer. All she did was try to give the judge a childs excuse for throwing his tantrum.

[@Ismael-ge6gv]

Imagine all the parents that didn't have this chance!!! 🤯

[@MiSambra]

From what I have seen, they overreach and split up families when it is unnecessary, while at the same time failing countless children that actually need the help. Government social services are a joke.

[@notsure5702]

No they're not a joke, they're a criminal gang Enterprise, A MASSIVE terrorist Organization, every school shooter is a foster care kid, a former foster care kid, or a forced adoption child. Almost every foster care child is also stuffed with many various psychiatric meds that are not even FDA approved for adults yet. Nevermind they are mixed with multiple types at the same time on a developing brain all for greed. A joke would be something funny, this is outright TERRORISTIC and treasonistic. If there is a word. Actually family court judges do not have an oath regarding upholding the Constitution

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@notsure5702 Look, buddy, you're a SovCit. I get it. You don't know anything. But literally everything you just said is not only a lie, it's such an easily refutable lie that I don't know why you'd waste your time by posting it. Ten seconds. It would take you TEN SECONDS to fact check this nonsense. Please do so.

[@karltrombley5572]

@@seraphinaaizen6278 title 28 us code 3002 section 15a United States actually it is a corporation

[@Elucidus4]

@@karltrombley5572 Ignoring that much context must be a talent. Looking at it in context it is referring to an entity of the United States as clarified in 15(B) "...or other entity of the United States;".

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@karltrombley5572 No, it isn't. As is often the case with SovCits, you've never actually READ your own citations. What that code is stating is that the term "united states" could refer to, among other things, a federal corporation. It does not state that the United States IS a corporation, it merely lists that was one of the possible definitions that the term "united states" could refer any given law. It doesn't mean that the united states isn't a country; especially since the EXACT SAME citation also lists other definitions and entities that the term could apply to. This is the biggest problem with SovCits: You don't actually know or understand anything. You read a few words from a cherry picked section of law, then try and apply it without context or education to everything, without any understanding or care when or how it applies. This is why you shouldn't get your legal education from youtube videos. It's especially laughable that you'd try and use the US code to justify your nonsense when the very same US code indicates that "person" and "human being" mean the exact same thing, even though part of your argument is that the word "person" refers to some kind of fictional strawman. You don't know anything. About anything. And that's why you get everything wrong.

[@fredjaboobi]

I like these judges. They improved my opinion of Georgia.

[@laughablelarry9243]

How do you improve an opinion that's so low?

[@1620rx]

Same

[@patriciaherndon1139]

I want to say, Thank-you, to these Judge's for Standing-Up on behalf of this Family, the Law & the Constitution!

[@sarahjane9957]

Amen!!!

[@michelemartin5693]

We need these judges in every state. Children are being traumatized by Children's services across the country because they are being unnecessarily removed from loving families over unfounded allegations and trumped up charges as well as omitting pertinent information. And as in my case and thousands of others who do not have the ability to afford a paid attorney or anyone to attempt to fight cps. It is a damn tragedy that this is allowed to happen.

[@angelabarff4641]

IT'S a BUSINESS.

[@NateB]

More parents need to watch this. Family court in this country has become a circus.

[@notsure5702]

"This is not a public concern" HELLOOO! Something IS SERIOUSLY WRONG IN AMERICA ! This is NOT a secluded case, many whom have gone into treatment has not had their children returned after doing everything asked of them!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE INVESTIGATE INTO EVERY SINGLE FAMILY AND JUVENILE COURT!!!!

[@TWOSU_NEWS]

Fortunatly., if this case went for the parents, this case can be cited in any family court hearing...

[@machninety7334]

They ask you to jump through hoop after hoop and even if you do everything they ask and get approval from counselors and doctors they still take your kids. All they do is move the goal posts everytime your kick is good. The way to fight it is to just stop the game before it starts.

[@notsure5702]

@Jim Bob too many by a looooooooooooooooooooooong shot have been hurt not helped.

[@colbornfarms4849]

Re you a crackhead undeserving children I’m guessing yes

[@agathakirk6380]

Wow, children are the future. What in the world is happening? Too many pedophiles in this world to not care about children. So many in all professions, titles, backgrounds; it doesnt matter. Why wouldnt a judge do everything possible to get children back to their parents? Sounds suspicious; nobody can be trusted if they are using excuses to keep children away from their parents.

[@davidr2421]

"I'm in the public, and I'm concerned" BAM

[@Ms.Mila592]

I love these judges! They’re Awesome 👏 💗 just love 💕 them

[@dustinbrandel59]

The state speaker sounds like a woman whose never been through the ordeal of her children being taken away.

[@mjolnirswrath23]

Don't be an incompetent Parent, I've got an Autistic Daughter, my wife's got severe Epilepsy, and yet " somehow " I've never done anything to question the Validity of my parenting by the State or it's Incompetent Criminally Stupid System... I work 7 days a week as a custom carpenter, bills get paid child is homeschooled and has a 9 grade reading comprehension at 9 years old... Don't be a CRIMINAL, don't Do stupid things and Don't get caught. Know how exercise your rights in the first place to NOT land in Jail... I've been pulled over for 67 mph in a 25 mph construction zone with 1911 and a blade on my side and been Given a Warning driving a 30+ year old beat up car " that rules out bias of income supposed because I'm poor " and next thing I know I was talking with the Officer like a normal human being, AND i was HONEST, Respect goes a long way in life not kissing ass or Being Afraid... those are just submission by way of Fear of confrontation with a seemingly superior Force and calling your act of Cowardice" Maturity " ...

[@andrebranch5950]

And she dont give 3 fcuks, so saddd man

[@crabbyj]

From the sound of what the panel concluded, in their closing statements, she actually sounds like an admired and respected advocate. Or did you see some other video that we didn't?

[@yamatowolfgang7960]

she is just doing her job. she nodded to agree with the judges many times.

[@Agbahizzal]

@@yamatowolfgang7960 Yep, like they said before they started. I do not envy your position and I know this isn't ur doing.

[@larryrivers2752]

Corruption at its worst, against children! Darkness looms in our judicial system. I hope they have a concious and many nightmares.

[@sharonlear2097]

And we wonder why we have a mental health crisis in this country what is sad pathetic situation!!! All at the expense of our children to boot. My friend's kids here in New Hampshire or just given to a total stranger because she went to court and asked for guardianship the judge made a decision based off of two very stupid allegations no evidence no witnesses know nothing her word only and she lied so many times on her paperwork it's not even funny. It's almost as if it made to the desk signed dated and off it went with no thought at all very scary

[@msjunpyo8]

Love it when he said His infinite wisdom...Get em....This is how court should be...People seeing both sides

[@mayhem7455]

The state can't have it both ways. "They had council even though council wasn't present, so they weren't denied right to council." "Well, they waived council." Either they had council, or they waived it. It can't be both.

[@philipem1000]

Yeah she had a shit hand to argue didn't she? The judges were clearly not buying it.

[@MegaTinni]

Well, they waived the council at the time of hearing to get their own that they had neglected to employ until the very last moment.... that says a lot if you ask me. Those kids probably didn't belong in that home at that time. No danger? Not sure why living with addicts isn't considered danger.

[@philipem1000]

@@MegaTinni You mischaracterize it, they HAD employed counsel who was not available that day and asked for a continuance. The other lawyer withdrew, they hired a lawyer but it was unavoidably at the last moment; the new lawyer could not appear on such short notice; there was a motion to delay the hearing so he COULD be there; and the judge was so against these people he proceeded without their having a lawyer. You can see the judges are OUTRAGED at that and at at the state trying to say they DID have counsel when they so clearly didn't. And the Social workers were lying about how the parents were doing with the kids to cover up their own mistakes.

[@MegaTinni]

@@philipem1000 Didn't they also say the waited until the last moment to get said new counsel and then off course they couldn't appear in time. Or am i mistaken here..?I

[@philipem1000]

@@MegaTinni They did not wait, their counsel withdrew on short notice as I heard it and it probably took days to weeks to get a replacement. At any rate they had counsel engaged and asked for a continuance, and the judge decided to proceed without them having counsel present, which you can tell by the reaction outraged this panel. Having counsel is fundamental to due process; there was no indication they had used this to unduly delay the court. You just don't go ahead against a party that is not protected by its attorney.

[@rapiddanger]

"The case is a moot point now because the parents have their kids back" Gonna start using this argument "officer this ticket for running a red light is a moot point because i circled the block to come back and wait at it again"

[@johnknoefler]

Good grief. The nerve of these people. Chutzpah from Shyster lawyers.

[@Ang.0910]

🤣

[@philipocallaghan]

The point is , they ran a green light but were accused of running a red light and then forgiven, but the ticket/fine was still hanging over their heads and they had unlawful charges on their record ! They never ran the red light in the first place.

[@craigoryrobie5676]

Not the same

[@david52875]

Worked for New York City at SCOTUS in NYSRPA v NYC

[@w1.0]

These 3 Wonderful down to earth Great Judges makes me realize how crappy other judges can be and how they are!!!!! These 3 Judges are the ABSOLUTE BEST!!!!! THANK THE LORD!!!!!

[@robot_spider]

This is what 'civil discourse' is supposed to be. Clearly the state's attorney knew she had a weak position going in, but it's her job to argue the case. She didn't resort to lying or name-calling, or whataboutism. The judges, while clearly unimpressed with the arguments presented, still congratulated her for her conduct, her professionalism, and her presentation. The court's ability to separate the facts of the case from the presenters is sorely lacking in political and social discourse. We need more of this.

[@LuckySamuraiGastonia]

“It always seems to work for the government but never for the people”

[@carasather2717]

These judges are awesome. I'm so happy to see constitutional judges

[@bobsaturday4273]

sure , stand up for the drug addict parents rights but forget about the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 considering it was the kids called cps for protection from raging drug addicts in the first place ?

[@kdkay4039]

How is any lay person supposed to adequately represent themselves in any court case? Far to many laws, procedures, rules, etc. it takes DECADES to acquire that knowledge. This seems like a clear case of abuse of power.

[@darkwillow57]

Who can even take time off work in order to be present at whatever hearings they have? Sure they're not supposed to fire you over stuff like that but they'll find another reason to say you were fired. I had a boss that used to write everybody up for simple Human mistakes so he always has a file on people and can get rid of them at will.

[@realSimoneCherie]

They really aren’t. It’s a horrible idea. Whether you have a child custody case or a speeding tickets.

[@losaface4]

Landmark Case: Gideon v. Wainwright (1963) According to a unanimous Supreme Court decision. The Court held that the Sixth Amendment right to assistance of counsel applies to criminal state trials and that "lawyers in criminal court are necessities, not luxuries."

[@sunnyshare7114]

Exactly

[@taoliu3949]

You don't need decades, you just need to maybe a few weeks. What you really need to know are the procedures. Once you learn the procedures and how the system works, then you only need to look up relevant laws and cases and see how it applies to you. The thing is, you better be sure that you are 100% innocent or the system is going to fuck you. There's a video online uploaded by Michael A. who explained how he learned the system and used it to keep his kids in California decades ago. Lookup "I arrested the Distrixt Attorney".

[@stephenmcelroy1179]

Gentalmen of the Court Of Appeals thank you for the defense of the rights of the people of Georgia! This has needed to be addressed for almost one hundred years! From the bottom of my heart and from the people Thank You! Please keep after this and effect change? I pray this.

[@ragmon1000]

You can tell how uninformed these judges are by their surprise at how corrupt the just-us system is from the juvenile judge to the prosecutor to child "protective" services.

[@patrickday4206]

Yeah they expect us to navigate systems that they themselves don't know our government is a mess

[@chrishagreen3988]

Alot of that is so the answers will be read into the public record for future reference / precedent.

[@newdogatplay]

Sad thing is how many children have been takeing because the state tries to be parents to parents that had a caller complaint that the children or parents can never face in court ,a right to face their accuser in a court of law

[@MrSlicky77]

It's crazy that all of a sudden you lose your rights when going to juvenile court.

[@jimmyjustice1722]

There needs to be more, much more separation of the judicial branch and the prosecutors. Just like he said at the end, the state’s attorney was in the same building. That alone makes it seem they are on the same team and it’s the people against not only the prosecutors but also the judges. State attorneys should not have their offices in the courthouse and prosecutors should NEVER have private meetings to discuss a case with any judge. Yet it happens ALL THE TIME.

[@Robocline]

That's why it's my opinion that a fair and impartial trial is impossible in the US anymore. The judge, prosecutor, cops etc. are all on the same team while the individual is alone without friends. It's worst at the lowest levels on the system. The cop, prosecutor and judge see each other on a regular basis and we all know familiarity creates biases. Family courts are the same. DFCS is too familiar with the judges they argue before which leads to a lot of rubber stamping and running rough shod over the people.

[@kineticinstallationspecial5775]

I'm is pretty sure their checks are issued by the same entity, that sounds like a conflict of interest to me

[@tiffytoo]

THATS EXACTLY HOW COMMONWEALTH OF KY IS 100%.

[@phillipwhite8463]

Ex parte

[@crabbyj]

Wait...so members of the judicial branch... shouldn't be members of the judicial branch. Sure...that makes perfect nonsense. There already is separation...one hears the case, another one prosecutes the case, another one defends against the case. All separate, but all part of the judicial branch.

[@gooberthoreau]

Must be hard to find attorneys who aren't shaking and quivering when delivering their remarks in front of the supreme court.

[@marksamuelsen2750]

My GOD. I’m so amazed as to what happened here. The judges are almost afraid to speak up due to the insanity of these questions and the answers that must be stated. It is sickening to me as a judicial officer to hear this and to continue this process. We need HELP in this country yesterday to help our children, parents, cousins, friends, and anyone else who does NOT have the funds for a proper defense. My GOD WE’RE DOOMED.

[@lesliewinchester8225]

Seriously the first problem begins with there should only be one court case in three days where they have to prove before a jury you did something wrong. For me they held 17 hearings in five months but my case was unsubstantiated. If they can’t do a trial with evidence in three days before a jury than they can never give a speedy trial. So much time is wasted doing nothing in court.

[@gregorylane4684]

What stuns me is that these appellate judges are stunned. They have to know that these local judges consider themselves all mighty. It is time to fix this crap or it’s gonna leave the people no alternatives. I thought that these courts are supposed to be working under the assumption of fairness.

[@lamwen03]

They have to wait for the actual case to be presented. Legally. It almost sounds like the parents were, in effect, in charge of the children with the parents on probation.

[@preventionabduction5933]

Parents speaking up. It's way overdue we are heard. We have a right to protect our children. If needed, help should be offered instead of kids being taken. One way or another, authorities find ways to instill fear in parents. Having no chance to tackle the this nightmare.

[@jenniferc.2514]

Torture Trauma. Hopelessness Haunts Me Helplessness Taunts Me

[@DebBeachamATL]

Rebecca Lindstrom, I just heard, "I just find it shocking that a judge would say that in open court," or anywhere for that matter. I would give anything for the audio recordings of my proceedings to be obtained and played in the Court of Appeals. [Rule 22 denied, subpoena to obtain backup audio quashed, if that gives you a hint] What they are discussing here & why I've dug my heels in to pay for transcripts have everything to do with why I do the analysis and reporting I do. THANK YOU so much for staying on this story and making this available!

[@patrickhenderson6932]

We are currently looking for a attorney to hold the ones accountable. Any one in mind ?

[@staceylei4297]

I'm in Florida and can't find ANYONE TO HELP ME!! IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO CAN GIVE ME ANY REFERRALS OR ADVICE, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT🙏🙏🙏

[@bbevensadams6296]

I absolutely LOVE these judges...they are clearly upset and appalled by the governments heavy handed over reaching. They are what all judges should be. I love them.❤️

[@AG-wn8gr]

I'm in the public and I am concerned this is absolutely scary that the government there can do that .

[@EW-uw7dg]

Lower courts have been doing this, it's worse now. These are the best judges I've seen. Literally right now there are judges in lower family courts that need handcuffs for their corruption.

[@Fiveinabus]

It’s scary how much power a judge has and what little we the people can do to defend ourselves from the government

[@sirgreedy88]

All family courts have too much power. Judges in divorces has too much as well.

[@bugeyebiker7511]

Don't forget they are elected officials. We have all the power we need.....we just don't use it.

[@angelabarff4641]

Shhh Silly the secret child trafficking networks Don't want the public to know this.

[@justincrowley8787]

Yea, there needs to be a (better) check and balance in place to combat judicial overreach. At the very least.

[@naui_diver9290]

I don't know how the parents got this shit going but damn they came with the heat x10

[@patrickhenderson6932]

As the father I will say ms mull is a great lawyer! Unbelievable how she gets trashed like this ! The case is now public so see your tax dollars spent on how the state can remove your children without due process?

[@justjenny1972]

Wat happened is there a link to the story on this case I'm From Ireland so don't have a clue how the courts civil or criminal work

[@notsure5702]

@@justjenny1972 let me give you a clue, in America plain and simple they do NOT work for the people, they work well for only the corporations and fraudsters, traitors and treason committers who make fortunes off the destruction of otherssi!

[@philipem1000]

I would rather see and say that this case stands for the proposition that the state CANNOT remove your children without due process. In fact the Court of Appeals found the Judge's order null and void. Yes it happened but the court was clear it was wrong.

[@johndoeu.d-207withoutpreju2]

No they cant thatz. What the video proves.

[@charleswatkins8558]

I have to say I appreciate these Judges standing up for the children the parents the Constitution and the law. Quite different than the normal way things turn out.

[@irishwarrior35]

State knows she is screwed when her voice sounds like she was about to cry. I am blown away with the comment "It's moot because they have the kids back"

[@venusvigil7842]

I have to say RESPECT for these judges!! Absolute respect!!

[@bobsaturday4273]

with all your big idealism , "unconstitutional" legally and against the drug addict parents rights but that lower court judge did the right thing for the wrong reasons . he was considering the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 . considering it was the kids called cps for protection from raging drug addicts in the first place ?

[@beelowe3474]

I love how nervous and quivering the state's attorney voice sounds. She should be ashamed that she let them use her as a scapegoat for their F--up.😡

[@passionfly1]

I am just appalled how that Judge everyone was talking about (externally to that courtroom) had the AUDACITY to take on an Advocacy role by saying "it is me versus you". It is so refreshing that this tribunal caught that and specifically called him out on it. Judges are lawyers but are JUDGES FIRST and can NOT switch roles to playing Attorney against a defendant on a whim because their temper or frustration interferes. This is absolute LEGAL proof (since it is now a transcript in a legal proceeding) that Judges DO make EMOTIONAL commands and orders outside the jurisdiction of the law and people and CHILDREN get hurt. That external judge needs to be IN JAIL!!! REPREHENSIBLE LACK OF JUSTICE!

[@notsure5702]

However, Juvenille, family, and probate courts are actually corporations named as "COURT"'s and do not look out for the interest of anyone but their money/portfolio(s). Corporations101

[@tomjackson4374]

@@notsure5702 Not sure is a good name for you because I am not sure where the total bullshit you are saying comes from. That is not true.

[@tomjackson4374]

Any judge at any level in any court is bound by the US Constitution and state constitutions to be a neutral arbiter and cannot legally show any favoritism toward either side. That is basic to due process.

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@tomjackson4374 This "Not Sure" guy is quoting SovCit bullshit that he learned in youtube university. Just ignore him.

[@karltrombley5572]

@@tomjackson4374 exactly and if they go outside the of their oath of office an reliable 4 lawsuits and damages

[@itzahoax934]

The sarcasm from the judge on the right, "Well I live in the wrong damn country!" with the light pen slam. You can tell this trio was just toying with this gov goon. All judges who worked with these guys, helped train these guys, amazing work. We need them more in the Federal level.

[@spuriouseffect]

What happens when this generation of judges, who still respect the constitution, are no longer there? That's the scary part.

[@frostgfx]

The bigger issue is that that stuff happens all the time in every state, it's just worse down south. DPS, DCFS, etc. personnel, need to be held to individual personal liability, and as such, need to carry personal liability insurance as a way to protect persons unduly harmed by a system that is inherently weighed against a parent.

[@benmartin4540]

The contortions of logic and fact that the state representative makes just boggles the mind.

[@bobsaturday4273]

you stand up for the drug addict parents rights but forget about the childrens rights to safety as the state attorney states 22:32 but the appeals judge DENIES !!! 22:38 or you just wanto forget about the children when you want to blabber about "rights" ? considering it was the kids called cps for protection from raging drug addicts in the first place ?

[@jomcmenamin4579]

The family that this happened to released these proceeding ; otherwise we would not see this.

[@notsure5702]

Correct!

[@philipem1000]

I think that's not likely so, teh proceedings in Juvenile Court were doubtless sealed but this is the Appellate Court and they are usually open proceedings.

[@melloyellow5598]

Awesome, thorough, patient Judges in sorting this tangled mess out. I applaud you, Gentlemen. Kudos to the Plaintiff's council as well. Excellent, ernest work on her part. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@Ashleyapril2100]

“That’s unbelievable I live in the wrong country” that’s how it should make you feel!! I love this

[@kareno8634]

Sounds like *Trafficking* by the court.

[@karltrombley5572]

Exactly this is the problem people do not know their rights

[@magnetmannenbannanen]

could anyone make money on fostering children?

[@louise3088]

@@magnetmannenbannanen Why do you ask ?

[@magnetmannenbannanen]

@@louise3088 Corruption and Money are usually connected, in Norway it turned out people in Childcare was getting chummy (monetary corruption) with the people doing fostercare, as fosterparents are payed a lot of money to foster children. basically a incentive was given for taking other peoples children ,and placing them in fostercare with no real reason other than "parents not rich enough to go to court", like work migrants, and foreigners and poor people.

[@louise3088]

@@magnetmannenbannanen In the U.S. no one makes much money being foster parents, other than the state itself.The more children in care, the more money they can request from the federal government.They claim reunification is the goal,but that's not really true.These children are money making machines for these agencies. They also like to pretend adoption is to spare the kids from languishing in foster care, but again money is the real motivator.No one oversees these agencies and their corruption and ineptitude is shocking. I spent a good portion of my youth in foster care.I know first hand what it's like to be beaten,abused, and starved.I have found there to be few lower life forms than social workers.

[@dee7353]

What is lost in this? The children. No damn body puts the children first. I love these judges.

[@ApesAmongUs]

Doing what is "best for the child" is what causes these courts to ignore fundamental rights. "Best for the child" is so ambiguous that it allows judges to substitute their own judgement for the law, while actually being extremely flawed people.

[@crabbyj]

That you even saw this video gives lie to your statement that, "nobody puts the children first." If they didn't, there wouldn't have been a court case that you could observe. Sadly, you equivocate, "put the children first", with, "do what I feel is right!", ignoring potentially violating the rights of the children and parents/guardians alike.

[@mushroommcfarmer1766]

The state's counsel sure is trying hard to portray the judge's statement "its me against you" as somehow being acceptable. When the middle judge asks her how she would feel if he said that to her, he should have added that how about if he said that to her while also having her children as ransom. Quite a big difference.

[@optimusprimevil1646]

a big difference indeed

[@missfit4943]

I wish all judges were like this! These men stand up for what our country is really about! The judge should have rescheduled until the parent's lawyer was available. I cant believe court was even continued without their lawyer. The State is absolutely disgusting in defending that judge. "Its me against you" says A LOT!

[@DonyoSanghelei30]

Imagine a judicial system where we have judges at all levels and categories of law, who are passionate about the law being applied justly. No personal political agenda, no personal opinion that is contrary to what is truly good of gander. Just pure affinity and passion for justice and the support of rights of the people.

[@redtapereed-walterreed-wal7000]

Yes it does void that corrupt judge's decision!!! She makes me sick!

[@djhibberd9964]

The states attorney is full of shlt when she said the court can do whatever it wants after a finding of dependency exists. The law requires the court to hold review hearings to familiarize itself with the progress of the children concerned and to ensure the parents full rights are respected and enacted. The court cannot just tell the parents to go pound sand.

[@kikastra]

No offense to anyone, but she is probably an affirmative action hire. She's probably fairly intelligent, and qualified for a lot of things, but not as a state prosecuter

[@djhibberd9964]

Let's see. She has to have earned a law degree, passed a bar exam, and has some experience in court to get picked to argue at the appellate level.

[@kikastra]

@@djhibberd9964 It's called affirmative action. The bar, and no I'm not talking about the law bar, but the pun is appropriate, is lowered, for all those things. I never said she wasn't intelligent. And I never said that because she's black that must be why she is there. She's not "appropriate" for the job, but got it anyhow. Probably due to affirmative action.

[@djhibberd9964]

I'll have to disagree on that claim. BYW, I was working on my truck with headphones in listening to the hearing. I honestly never looked to see who was what ethnic background. But then again, I don't give a shlt.

[@kikastra]

@@djhibberd9964 No it shouldn't matter her ethnicity really. Lots of idiots everywhere no matter what their color. But that's the problem with affirmative action, it will always put doubt in mind, when there's a colored idiot in this position.

[@jordanplathstone7373]

He said Unbelievable, I live in the wrong country!!!

[@shannonmeade7480]

We need more judges like this.

[@christinaca4681]

I love how these judges saw right through the greedy lying social workers and state court judges. I love how they protected parents and children from being separated and how they really saw and spoke about how flawed the juvenile courts system really is. I love how he said " so you don't even need a hearing you can just take some dummy interns word and steal a child " " this ain't going to work for me" love it and with guys like this looking out for us parents watch out corrupt social workers because your getting shut down 👇

[@pjj9491]

I dont know how some attorneys fkn go home and sleep at night🥵

[@2loco2c]

I personally know an attorney here in mpls MN and he knows my cps case and said to me he would help me but....he is afraid of what ramification's would occur if he did and that it would ultimately hurt his clients in the future because he wouldn't get any deals from the county if he did and yes I have proof of this

[@brandoneldonjohnson8385]

jer bls very common.

[@lydiahubbell6278]

I have been erased from my child's life without any findings by any court that my child is dependent and neglected. Never was there any proof of any kind of harm to my child that was a result of my actions. In fact, when I was erased from my child's life, there was not even an allegation that I had harmed or endangered my child in any way. All it took was false allegations (that I was "stalking" the other parent) and judges turning a blind eye to the Constitution.Does the code need to be viewed through the lens of the Constitution?

[@karltrombley5572]

A lot of them should be in prison including the judges and prosecutors they're going on Admiralty law not common law in these courts people need to know that.

[@marielarosa7624]

They don’t sleep, the just hang upside down from the rafters like the bloodsucking vampires they are.

[@fictionaltruth8177]

I have a screen shot of a CPS worker arguing with some woman on Facebook. She had enough nerve to post on a social media site. That it would be a shame if I came and took your kids away from you. Shut these CPS offices down.

[@allanwheeler6110]

A judge actively trying to pry a family apart? Why are these judges sitting there baffled as if they don't know that this happens daily throughout the country.

[@amcb2035]

I know seriously, I mean maybe they don't but probability is small. But it can still happen, but I lean more into your take which is how in the hell, all the years of experience and not have one idea.... suspicious. But then why would they act like this? Shows no benefit that I can think of

[@LightInsights]

The woman defending the state can't even see how wrong the state is. I think she truly feels they are okay. We need more judges like these men. Not just in Georgia but all over the country this kind of unconstitutional BS happens regularly.

[@tomc.4860]

I worked in a juvenile halfway house and a juvenile detention center as well as an adolescent detox center and anytime the state took the children from their parents and place them in the care of the state those children always, always, always were physically and sexually abused and when they finally were reunited with their parents they had a deep hatred for any authority as well as a fear of any government agency for life. I wish there were studies by independent organizations on how much good is actually done by these government agents and court systems.

[@naui_diver9290]

Shit like this happens every day in every courthouse in America...

[@rodniestruiken1256]

How can you talk about law and order when the laws are unconstitutional and even judges violate the law?? What's wrong whit your country?? " EVERYTHING "

[@alejandrospeed6399]

@@rodniestruiken1256 what laws are unconstitutional? Very blanket/ignorant statement. Where are you from?

[@timothyleclair8450]

Nah, they're closed on weekends

[@moqani5525]

Bro someone i know lost 5 kids for some bullshit like this

[@allicat8943]

Wow!! These judges are awesome! God bless them🙏

[@cristiancalvillo1140]

If you are a lawyer and the judge tell you “this does not look good” you might as well just give up

[@philipem1000]

Not always. But in this case it was not hard to see where the judges were going.

[@JacaboBlanco]

19:05 thank God for great judges. This man is amazing. I love this.

[@McAwesomeDelux]

Videos like this are one of the few things that give me hope in our institutions. The press completely ignores these situations, where the system holds itself accountable. ETA: As usual, I am not alone!

[@kension333]

They need to just shut these family courts down. They are unconstitutional and corrupt to the core.

[@notsure5702]

TRUTH BOMB

[@MrSlicky77]

Eveyone should take notice when state entities think they have no rules to follow, when it comes to our civil and constitutional rights.

[@EW-uw7dg]

Family Court is doing this to someone I know, no due process, no admissable evidence, testimony, nothing.

[@puffywoowoo5112]

16:30 👏👏👏👏👏 thank you judges

[@BS-qe6jz]

The first time in eight years to see three judges act with concern and respect along with a little maturity. Now if the rest of the courtrooms around the country, especially juvenile and family, could learn a lesson from these "men" Watching this made me hopeful that when I get my case out of the 'kangaroo' court I may find some justice, if my daughter is still alive and I can find it in me to continue to follow through this hell. Thank you to each and every one of you judges. You were each not only refreshing to see and watch but to know 'you' are out there looking out for Our Constitutional Rights. You've been 'Noticed' CT You as well Ms. Mull. Nice job, my day is coming! I have to get it right for my child and the others to follow. I just lost everything now, home foreclosed same day it should have had final payment made. Entire 401(k) gone. I'm coming for the many that did this to me and my children for eight years now. I've grown used to fighting alone now, this is to be the final battle. Good v Evil

[@b.arborio2404]

WOW! Thank you Appellate Court Justices ! We need more videos of similar reviews . Civil Asset Forfeiture should be next. These administrative powers, reserved by the state , that circumvent Constitutional Common sense should be repealed wholesale.

[@1620rx]

So much so.

[@temper7859]

It’s a shame we as parents must go appeal to this high court to ensure our rights are protected by the lower court’s Judicial misconduct

[@patrickhenderson6932]

Absolutely! This is our case and it took almost 2 years for the process to be complete and to have Judge wyantt overruled by this court. I remember sitting in that courtroom and hearing these amazing men speak on behalf of us and I literally cried the whole time! The best part of this is now in the state of Georgia we can sue all Gov entities who have sovereign immunity from prosecution, whenever they overstep their oath of office. This also changed the juvenile code as well. It was the biggest nightmare of my family’s lives! In the end we’re still together and a lot stronger and smarter and the laws are for the people not the government in juvenile courts. This should be the way all state courts handle juvenile cases.

[@AliciaMarchant]

@@patrickhenderson6932 I can see how youth court did some things wrong but I do hope you learned from using drugs though. Our kids were taken for absolutely no reason whatsoever, they have lied under oath ( had to lie because there was no evidence of wrong doing on our part ), lied on paperwork, separated siblings which they’re not suppose to do, we passed every drug test never failed one, completed the service agreement within a few months of signing it, had me falsely arrested, had our kids falsely arrested, I really could go on and on. Anyway my whole point is those of us that do absolutely nothing wrong, well it hurts greatly. I’m glad y’all got your kids back but I hope you learned as well. We are still going through it and it’s been 2 1/2 years, also we haven’t seen our kids since the day they were taken November 17, 2021. Our baby was taken after birth from the hospital Dec 30, 2021, haven’t seen him since. I post videos of our story and struggles on my channel in hopes it might help someone but I am still awaiting trial to get our names cleared. I hope you can understand that though I’m sure it was hard for you, imagine how it is for those of us that did nothing. God bless

[@jillbunny90]

​@patrickhenderson6932 I also went through HELL with Coweta County DFCS! I was falsely arrested! After sitting in jail, and bonding out, all charges were soon dropped. I had parenting classes, drug tests, and metal health evaluations (where I was treated terribly), and finally went in front of the judge, he reprimanded the case worker and gave my daughter back immediately with the order to close the case and I did not need any further contact with DFCS. The case worker stomped out of the courtroom so angry that my attorney was blown away. I thought it was over...it wasn't. One afternoon a month later I received a phone call from DFCS telling me I must be at their office by 5:00 that day. Like a naive idiot I went with my daughter. I was so angry, I don't even remember why I was asked to be there. I only remember that I gave the case worker a piece of my mind, telling her it is traumatic for my daughter and I to have to continue being threatened to be at their office and reminded her the judges order. The next week that case worker went to the judge, got an order, showed up at my nice home where I was packing to take my child to the beach for vacation and took her away. I had to pack her clothes, and in doing what was best for my child, I did not yell or protest. I had tears rolling down my face, but didn't let her see me upset (they used that against me). I packed her nice clothes, but she was at an age where she had these ugly outfits that she loved and so I packed them for her comfort (they used that against me, leaving out the nice Polo and GAP outfits out of the documents. They notated that I packed the ugly outfits, like those were her only clothes). The police were there and a few days later I came home to one of the officers outside my apartment where he apologized for what he had to do, and agreed with tears in his eyes, that it was wrong. I was promised if I did A, B, and C I would get weekend visits. I did the things and never got a thing. They took my daughter to SEVERAL doctors trying to have them say she was s€xually assaulted and that a mosquito bite my daughter kept picking at, was a cigarette burn. NO DOCTOR AGREED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Every visitation I had a new caseworker because they couldn't keep workers. Because I passed every urinalysis drug test that was monitored while in the restroom, they started taking hair tests instead. So many, Inhad a bald spot in the back of my head. They denied my parents custody (my mother is a registered nurse in mental health). I spent so much in attorney fees as a single mother. But, they stopped allowing me inside the court hearings. I never got my daughter back. She was adopted by a family who also adopted another foster child at the same time (both blonde head, blue eyed girls one year apart in age). They used DFCS as an adoption agency and when the girls turned 18 and weren't perfect little angels, they cut them from their lives. This family also continued fostering after adopting my child, but after ABUSE allegations towards them, they had their fostering rights taken away. They lied to my daughter and told her she had been molested, SHE HAD NOT, and it was proven. I had been in Playboy and did a reality show filmed at The Playboy Mansion that aired on Fox, and that is what started this and fueled it. When my daughter cried after one of our 1 hour, monitored visit, the case worker had the audacity to tell me that my shirt being low cut was why she sas upset! Also, the juvenile judge who had reprimanded DFCS just looked at my case, not remembering that in the 3 min hearings before I was not allowed to attend them, and just saw a parent who had now been in front of him twice and thought it must be me. DFCS knew that! That was purposeful. Just because I was in Playboy, I NEVER subjected my daughter to any of that. I also modeled and did tv shows on Travel channel and ESPN. Playboy was a SMALL blip in my career. Whenever I traveled for work, my daughter stayed with my parents. She was 3 and in pre-k. I had STACKS of character statements. Also, HOw can a case worker do their job when there is a new one every few weeks so they know nothing about my case. I recently spoke on this during an A&E docuseries. My daughter is angry with me to this day and has no relationship with me. I moved out of state and never went back. I HATE THAT AGENCY WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING! My case was so dirty, my mom always says that people don't believe it, because they believe the state would never do something so crooked, so "there must be more to it". I am so happy for you and proud of you for fighting this the way you did! I was a 22 year old single mom and didn't know what to do. My attorney finally began tiring of it all, I could tell, and he stopped fighting for us the way he had at first . He did come to my apartment under the guise of checking my home before DFCS did a home visit, and attempted to have me give him oral s€x. I was SO beat down, and there is more that they did..but the ending was my child was legally kidnapped by the Coweta DFCS..💔.

[@truth3899]

One thing I would like to point out that strikes me as odd in this hearing is this. It's widely viewed, defended, and accepted in all 50 states that drug addiction is medical problem. NOT a criminal problem. I'm not condoning drug use in my statement. What I'm pointing out is, What other medical conditions warrant state intervention on behalf of the children of the inflicted? Do we take children from Cancer patients? What about a patient that has a broken leg and is on drugs due to that? Does their "being on" drugs warrant state intervention on behalf of the children? It seems like this needs to be brought to the U.S Supreme Court to be begin the process of having these codes amended in all 50 states.

[@brettmoore3194]

This happens all the time. I had a judge tell me I get no due process and he does it all the time. The clerk even looked shocked. Judge even whisper to the chief and they both decided to deny my sunshine act request. Then intimidated me to make a decision saying he would make it for me and threaten it would be worse if I didnt plead guilty. Argo Alabama

[@carriea8165]

Maybe you should take the case to someone who would take the case to the state Supreme Court

[@bentley1960]

“The people - the people - are the rightful masters of both Congresses, and courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.” - “Abraham Lincoln, [September 16-17, 1859] (Notes for Speech in Kansas and Ohio),”

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Did you know Article V gives us a legal avenue to replace the Government and Constitution completely?

[@edwardmiessner6502]

I didn't know Abraham Lincoln inspired the sovereign citizen movement

[@bentley1960]

@@edwardmiessner6502 ENFORCE THE LAW! You know if we enforced just one simple law, everyone who is holding any government office at this time would go to jail. They have all violated their oath of office at some time. By refusing to stay within the limitations of the constitution they break the contract. They cease to represent the government. They no longer qualify to hold any office. They become impostors impersonating government officials. They have committed treason and fraud and usually a lot of other crimes. The truth is the United States Government is the worlds #1 arms and drug dealers and they are running close if not #1 in human trafficking and the slave trade. Tied in with the worlds number one counterfeiters, the list goes on and on. It don't matter if your the Bloods or the Crypts or the Government they are all gangs victimizing not only each other but honest folks as well. They are all criminals. According to the law no one is lawfully representing the government because they have ALL violated their oath of office and thus have cease to represent the government nor can they hold any government office. The constitution is a contract and this is just what happens when you breach this contract. This also means when they were creating their acts and rules and regulations and signing stuff none of it was any more lawful than a conman trying to sign someone's house out from under them. It is null and void because they were not who they were representing themselves to be. They were and are impersonating government officials on top of all the other crime they are doing. I think every government official state local and federal should be investigated. All their voting records examined and everything they have said in public and if they have not upheld, defended, and supported the constitution in every case they should be charged with every crime they have done that comes up in the investigation to the fullest extent of the laws and they should be made examples out of. These are people under contract and in offices of trust. If they can not be trusted then they should not hold or ever be able to hold any office of trust. That is what the law says and it should be enforced. “The United States is entirely a creature of the Constitution. Its power and authority have no other source. It can only act in accordance with all the limitations imposed by the Constitution.” Reid v Covert 354 US l, 1957. “No agreement with a foreign nation and no treaty is free from the restraints of the Constitution. “ Reid v. Covert , 354 U.S. 1 (1957) ~ No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” - 16 American Jurisprudence, 2nd edition, Sec. 177; late 2nd edition, Sec. 256; ~ “Insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, (constitution) it is superseded thereby.” (16 Am Jur 2d 177, Late Am Jur 2d. 256) "The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great emergencies of government." ~ Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 2 (1866). Cooper v. Aaron, By Chief Justice Earl Warren No state, legislator, executive or judicial officer can “War” against (or test the limitations of) the Constitution without violating their undertaking to support it (Breach of Oath/Contract, Treason, Fraud). The Constitution created a government dedicated to equal justice under law. The Fourteenth Amendment embodied and emphasized that ideal…no State shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Our constitutional ideal of equal justice under law is thus made a living truth. (Book, Our Nation’s Archive © 1999 pg 701) “Anyone entering into an arrangement with the government takes the risk of having accurately ascertained that he who purports to act for the government stays within the bounds of his authority, even though the agent himself may be unaware of limitations upon his authority.” The United States Supreme Court, Federal Crop Ins. Corp, v. Merrill, 332 US 380-388 L1947) Any court, government or government officer who acts in violation of, in opposition or contradiction to the Constitution, by his, or her, own actions, commits treason and invokes the self-executing Sections 3 and 4 of the 14th Amendment and vacates his, or her, office. ” An officer who acts in violation of the constitution ceases to represent the government”. Brookfield Const. Co. v. Stewart, 284 F. Supp.94. AM14.3/HO, IR No person shall hold office if he rebels against or violates the U.S. Constitution (treason). AM14.3/RD Congress shall impeach anyone who rebels against or violates the U.S. Constitution. Not maybe, not if they feel like it, THEY SHALL! George Washington when ask if we should put impeachment into the constitution said: impeachment is a substitute for assassination. The Oath of office is a quid pro quo contract cf [U.S. Const. Art. 6, Clauses 2 and 3, Davis Vs. Lawyers Surety Corporation., 459 S.W. 2nd. 655, 657., Tex. Civ. App.] in which clerks, officials, or officers of the government pledge to perform (Support and uphold the United States and state Constitutions) in return for substance (wages, perks, benefits). Proponents are subjected to the penalties and remedies for Breach of Contract, Conspiracy cf [Title 18 U.S.C., Sections 241, 242]. Treason under the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3., and Intrinsic Fraud cf [Auerbach v Samuels, 10 Utah 2nd. 152, 349 P. 2nd. 1112,1114. Alleghany Corp v Kirby., D.C.N.Y. 218 F. Supp. 164, 183., and Keeton Packing Co. v State., 437 S.W. 20, 28]. Refusing to live by their oath places them in direct violation of their oath, in every case. Violating their oath is not just cause for immediate dismissal and removal from office, it is a federal crime. Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order which further defines the law for purposes of enforcement. 5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office. 5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law, 5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense (and a violation of oath of office) for anyone employed in the United States Government (including members of Congress) to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government” "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil." - Thomas Jefferson Article IV, Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence. Corpocracy While by law the U.S. is a republic, the government is actually a Corpocracy - democracy by the corporations. Corporations vote by paying politicians and political parties to put forward their agenda. U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 3 "He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States." This does not say he can see to if he "feels" like it, it says he SHALL! take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. This is the presidents constitutional DUTY!!!

[@Darron_Matsumoto]

the state must be crazy taking kids with no due process. this is crazy watch a huge blow back case come up out of this.

[@alid6060]

This actually happens in most states, so this ruling will affect many states.

[@drewsmithson6665]

Family Court has no oversight at all. They make their own laws as they wish and the only way to appeal is to go to a federal supreme court and hope it's taken up unless a state law says different and it's still a 'bar fight' as these fellows said.

[@Halloween111]

"That was taken out of context" Ahhhh. That old chestnut to cover someone saying something stupid and arrogant.