Women Reveal Places They REFUSE To Go For First Dates

[@BorisBidjanSaberi11]

There has not been a single girl I’ve dated that has been angry at my affordable dates…. Social media is brain washing these poor women

[@kc270352]

​@@Pattern51loverno, lucky her

[@Flyinghotpocket]

This guy is right. Havent had a girl get mad at me for affordable dates coffee/ice cream/ fries.

[@grumblesa10]

Same here.

[@BorisBidjanSaberi11]

@@Pattern51lover cheap date ideas: thrift shop, grab coffee and go for a walk through the city, botanical garden, art musuem, walk on the beach, paint together in a park, mini golfing... Also know the best restaurants in your area that aren't a chain, are unique, and aren't 5 star prices 💯

[@dlcmiamiinc]

Thats because a Study or Survey depends on WHO is being surveyed. Its not every woman, its only a specific subset of women.

[@skullkid692]

Guys if she's really into you the place doesn't matter. My best first date was was sharing a bottle of wine on a blanket at a park. She was very into me and the conversation was great. Thats all that really matters.

[@melissasimmons3222]

Where is she now?

[@MrYessyess]

is his girl/wife@@melissasimmons3222

[@bruceleeroy8302]

I can tell you from experience, if a woman really likes you for you, she will care more about your company and being with you. If she's setting all these rules for where to go and how much to spend, she's probably using you for a free meal and will do it to the next sucker when she's done with you.

[@ramjam6934]

100% facts

[@CourtneyRyan]

Honestly such a good point

[@danjenkins21]

"A woman who likes me for me and just appreciates my company." I'm 38 years old and still have yet to find a woman like that.

[@adk46er5203]

Like the Cheesecake Factory woman. LOL!!

[@RyuuHou22]

@@danjenkins21 Sadly those ones are becoming harder and harder to find.

[@leomiliades7341]

Something needs to be said: @courtney you are a breath of fresh air with your approach promoting "normal healthy relationships" as opposed to "mind games" other influencers promote (toxic and disappointing). What a wonderful young lady, beautiful inside and out who has it together as well. I follow your channel and I can use your tips! Many thx, continue the good work! L

[@SylwekGrega]

Coffee date, going for a walk, Starbucks is totally fine. Any women who refuses to go somewhere like this, is just using you for a free meal. I’m very happy that I was able to meet my girlfriend, and we agree on many things, and I don’t have to date anymore. Find a good girl about your values align with them, is one of the best things you can do.

[@bigneiltoo]

Chuckle. You "don't have to date anymore"?? You mean you get to date with a gun to your head.

[@brianthesnail3815]

My son met his girlfriend at a student party, met her again 4 months later at another student party. He said they started out on dates going for very long walks through London. They didn't have much money and she liked walking so that's what they did. They are very close and talking about a future together.

[@smithn.wesson495]

No Chili's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, Buffalo Wild Wings, Wingstop, Denny's, Red Lobster, Starbucks, Coffee dates, bar for drinks, nighclubs or waffle house. No fast food places either. Well, Courtney you just eliminated over 98% of the possible places to go out to eat in the city I live. Sorry, but not everyone lives in a large city or metro area.

[@karmad.twelve6613]

How do you know his woman is like that? Take your trauma elsewhere@@bigneiltoo

[@JACQUEZ23]

​@@smithn.wesson495literally bruh 😂

[@JMD1965]

I had a first date where we met at an Art Museum which had a cafe at the entrance. We had lunch, then walked around and talked (quietly of course)... Then met the following morning at a local park to go on a hike together. I packed a quick breakfast for us both in my backpack and we sat by the lake overlook on a break eating and chatting. IF a woman thinks she is 'above' art, activities you're into and nature... Move on. There is SO much more to life (and relationships..) than nightclubbing and shopping.

[@Dadnatron]

As a guy... I think this is fantastic... because any woman who believes they are 'above' a specific restaurant is not someone I'd be interested in. I can understand some of the items above, like movies, gym, and fast food, but other restaurants can help weed out who she is. I LOVE it when she tells me who she is up front, as it removes my investment in her from the beginning. I can move to someone else.

[@joaquin67]

Man, you could be a content creator with this type of enthusiasm and positive perspective. It makes you not react negatively, but react graciously

[@ac5788]

Yup, thanks for showing me you are superficial. These girls be cancelling themselves.

[@buckjones4901]

IMO if you two like each other, it doesn't matter really that much what you do so you are together.

[@serelryk5365]

Had the exact same thought. Completely agree.

[@JohnWicks_Brother]

​@@buckjones4901Yeah, but when she's taking all your hard earned money. Then you'll think differently. That depends, if you want to be broke early on in the month. Some people just get really spendy. But to each his/her own right? ✌👍👌😎

[@JaySmith-pv2mw]

Ladies, I'll make you a deal. YOU pay for the date, you can choose the venue. I think it's ironic that a man who had to do all the pursuing, planning, and paying for a first date gets tagged as "low effort" if he chooses someplace on this list by the woman. Personally, I'm done with planning first dates at high end, local establishments (nothing on this list) only to be stuck with the check and ghosted afterwards.

[@anthonyml7]

Bingo, hence why girls pay for the wedding, and we get no say in the cost, location, venue etc.

[@LuhLuhLawrence]

I love how this statement initiates so much heat -- but it's so true that this is how some women just do this shit to us. And it's funny to them cause' they're narcissists.

[@hunter_69_69]

Dead-on. Gen-Z women: "Show men we can make the big bucks in big corporate!" Gen-Z women: "Men should be paying on the first date!" It's outrageous how women, specifically in younger generations, have the upper-hand on all things dating. I guess political correctness discourages society from conversing about this.

[@KnightsGloryy]

I remember once a girl I was talking to on a dating app we had planned to meet up. I chose a place and she said no. I chose another place and she said no. I then asked her to pick the place. She chose a bouche expensive spot in downtown requiring a reservation. I told her I would be down to go there after we had met a few times. She ended up un-matching me. Lol. Dating is dumb

[@hec231]

Bullet dodged.

[@jontyrhodes4155]

No kiddo You lack patience

[@austincarlson9270]

​@@jontyrhodes4155?

[@nickd2296]

I just don't understand why her opinion is relevant if you are paying for it lol.

[@cisium1184]

That wasn’t dating bro, that was hustling. And you busted it up.

[@ryanorionwotanson4568]

If only more women were like you, reasonable and level headed....

[@pablomartinez1504]

The point of first dates is not the place you go to itself. It’s to spend time with the other person and get to know them better. Women who demand a certain type of place are looking to use you, not appreciate you

[@coreylong3498]

Facts my guy! 💯

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

All women I meet nowadays have too high of a standards. Fine dining, vacation, expensive restaurants with jazz or classical music. Thats all they want to go to. On top of that they want to be showered with gifts.

[@jtrojan]

Amen to that! Seems women today have been conditioned to make unrealistic demands

[@hunter_69_69]

Dead-on. These days, gen-Z women are looking for men as "tickets" to other life experiences (and IMO, they're looking to build their "brand" on social media, which is an ultimate turn-off to me) as opposed to looking for experiences with the men themselves.

[@justacoginthefkery]

​@@CyclingMartialartswithMusicthere's plenty who don't act like that. My guess is you're actively seeking out the certain type of high maintenance "trophy" type without realizing that you're contributing to your own pattern. Try going for women who aren't flashy & don't spend their time chasing likes on social media. The low-key chill types don't chase status.

[@hwalter5432]

In my generation, we had a term for women that "dated" for expensive meals, fancy places... for money. We should bring that term back! It is still accurate

[@FenderStrat19711]

Gold Digger? Was that the term?

[@marksmith4892]

@@FenderStrat19711 whore, prostitute, all 3 the same thing essentially.

[@terry412]

I believe the term nowadays is "foodie call".

[@FenderStrat19711]

@@terry412 thank you! I did not know that!

[@hwalter5432]

Sounds nicer than hooker. Because that is the correct term for someone who pretends to be interested in a man for personal gain--and that is what these are-@@terry412

[@hec231]

Just like ladies go on first dates with a ‘let’s see what happens’ type of attitude, men should have that same approach, and if that’s the case, why spend $300 on someone you don’t even know yet? That type of date is for someone you’re already invested in.

[@thorstenb.163]

If you do not already know each other, the first date should be short and public (e.g. coffee, cake, icecream) to check for initial compatibility. If it turns out that you have nothing in common, you don't have to suffer for long and you don't waste time and money. The second date should be an activity, because people are more authentic when engaged in sth. and a shared activity helps with a first bond. (if you are hungry afterwards, you can extend the date e.g. with a picknick). The third date should be the first dinner date, when you are already sure that you have some chemistry, similar values, compatible goals and lifestyle.

[@katenicholson4152]

Thank you for acknowledging that there is a progression! And to women, he doesn’t even know if he likes you until the first date. Offer going Dutch or something cheap like coffee. If he likes you, he’ll step it up a little down the road. And fancy stuff is for special occasions!

[@alannothnagle]

Excellent, thanks. I wish someone had spelled this out to me as a teenager and young adult!

[@TheGothicRichard]

Ice cream is good. Something fun is good. I never did sit down for dinner dates until after we were hot item.

[@justarealman4210]

Maybe women can start asking the men out, planning the dates and paying for them also. Strong and independent women don’t need a man anyways in 2023 they can do it all on their own. I’m being slightly sarcastic but there is a lot of truth in it also. Love your channel Courtney keep the content coming!!

[@whiskii]

I always wonder this. Now that women are working normal 9-5 like us guys, why can't they now do all this too? It's almost as if... they're picking and choosing which traditions suit them best 🤔

[@rayj.4527]

​@@whiskiiBingo. You got it.

[@jimmywhat1448]

equality ..... Hhmmm.

[@Criner05]

Equality without the responsibility = privilege.@@jimmywhat1448

[@ryanb4541]

they don't actually want equal rights they just want the benefits of equal rights

[@snaptrap5558]

My first date offer is coffee followed by a walk in the park. That's it. Although it has been a little while since I've been in a position to go on a first date. If a girl is saying "No" to your date offers, it's not because the dates arent good enough. It's because she's not into you enough.

[@simontmn]

For UK, bar/pub is best, a walk after is indeed great.

[@whiskii]

​@simontmn that depends haha. I'm English but dating a Romanian atm who doesn't/ hates drink 😅 so we just went to a restaurant then mini golf for our first, which was a laugh.

[@simontmn]

@@whiskii fair enough. I went on a date recently with a French woman who doesn't drink. Met in a pub. It was doomed from the start. 😄Then similar with an Aussie. She drank plenty, much better. 😊

[@srujan00]

doesn't the UK have an ABV limit on beers, like 5.5% or something? I was in London in May, and never saw a beer above about 5 (point) something.@@simontmn

[@corhou8619]

Coffee dates are a great way to start. When you date a lot, coffee dates are better. I sometimes get a first date every week, so always eating out isn't the best thing. You lose money, gain weight, etc. And a lot of it ends with no chemistry. This is why you go on a coffee date: * It's inexpensive. Low risk. You have each other's undivided attention. * If there's no chemistry, you can call it a day. If there is chemistry, ask, "Are you hungry? I know a place down the street." Then you can go to dinner.

[@Swearengen1980]

This is why I do parks as a first date. I hate sitting across the table forced to stare at someone. Get out in nature, being active helps relax the atmosphere, more scenery can offer opportunities for different conversation, and not a dime spent (unless it's a state park). I don't date city girls who are hate going outside, so it's always good. And I have the same situation, after an walk if it's going well, then I'll suggest getting something to eat. Likewise I can go on first dates quite often, so it's rare for me to do a restaurant for those same reasons.

[@andersnielsen6044]

Why not go home to make love? Dinner is for the ones who do not have the balls to say "no thanks".

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

I feel like the art of the pivot is a move every guy should know. Start super low stakes like coffee, if it's going well pivot like you said "I know a place down the street". It's almost like a "try before you buy" thing going on. Also the invitation for a coffee date will filter out the douchebag women

[@IronmanV5]

The red flag for me is the no coffee dates. She doesn't like that we're either incompatible or she is trying to use me for a free meal. I can understand the bar for "just drinks", but one of my favorite first date places is a bar, with a great selection of wines and non alcoholic drinks, between a fantastic locally owned sandwich restaurant and a locally owned pizza place. Both will bring over an order. And the bar has a nice relaxed atmosphere.

[@michaelangst6078]

That's a really dumb red flag.. A ''coffee'' date can be the same thing as just doing a video chat session

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

All guys should a coffee date out there just as a Guage to see how she reacts. Even if you have expensive taste you can plan the coffee date and she's cool with it you can go "you know what? Let's do something more interesting" and pivot. That way you know if she's using you for free food

[@benjaminbrown45]

​@@Aaron-kj8dvexactly. If she demands something really expensive on a first date then she is usually just using you.

[@pmac5386]

My girlfriend an I had our first date at a small Italian restaurant. We have frequented almost all of the places on the list and find it makes no difference where we go because we just enjoy being together where ever. Yes I consider my self very very lucky!!

[@toothbrush5190]

At the start of Covid, I met many women in parks, under a tree with a small picnic, at outdoor gathering spots and some were amongst the best first dates I’ve had.

[@mysticstarhf9265]

I took my wife on our first date on a full one hour, 50 mile drive to a remote state-owned arboretum and we walked all the trails and talked within the confines of the arboretum. She loved it. Super pretty and quiet in springtime with everything in bloom. I also got lucky as I learned that gardening was a favorite hobby of hers. Just let her know where you are going ahead of time so that she can dress appropriately. You don't want her to open the door wearing heels when you need her to be wearing sneakers. Always have a backup plan. Maybe she doesn't like Red Lobster because she has a shellfish allergy, so have another place already picked out once you learn that. You intended to do an outdoor activity, but it ended up pouring rain, plan for a backup ahead of time. Always have a Plan B for a first date.

[@victordonavon292]

Good thinking. And Love that you struck gold with her loving gardening and your first date was the great green outdoors in springtime.

[@danielcobbins8861]

If the two of you ever visit Florida, go to the Morikami Garden in Delray Beach. It is a Japanese garden, and very beautiful place.

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

Before I watch the entire video: it's very interesting for me as a European (German) to observe differences between here and the US. My first thought after reading the title was: *Go wherever YOU want to go for a date and simply feel good!* Because one: if she cancels the date last minute you can still go to that place, have a good time (maybe meeting someone unexpected there) and simply enjoy the evening/ afternoon! And second: if she doesn't like the place that you do like ... maybe it's the first sign (flag) that your taste differs massively. And maybe this is not worth pursuing anyways. If she is cool and really wants to meet you, she's going to suggest somewhere else. And with that second option you get another hint if your taste matches. If not - don't bother and move on with your life!

[@michaelmcpherson915]

When I was a single man, I used to regularly go on ice cream dates. Is it low effort? Maybe, but it is a first date, which is more or less a funnel for who you might want to go on a second date or further with. If people are saying they want mega-high class first dates, they shouldn't complain when they are getting asked on few dates. It becomes a lot of investment for what is likely not going to go anywhere.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

That's my entire issue. Women often seem to fail to understand how expensive the grind of getting rejected becomes. How many times have these same women been on expensive first dates and ghosted the guy right after? I've had it happen multiple times and I decided I'm not breaking the bank to impress someone with a pricey meal. If someone is worth my time, we can get along anywhere. Problem is those types of women are exceedingly rare.

[@cisium1184]

Also, seeing how a woman eats an ice cream cone provides valuable information, if you know what I mean.

[@nickhfda223]

Yep. I'm at the point where I'm doing to further downgrade from "low-effort" to "no-effort." It all gets the same ghostly result.

[@americafirst9144]

@@nickhfda223 Sorry friend. Maybe you should try to meet women doing something you love.

[@thewindupsweetheart]

I know, that was wild to see it on the list. I mean, unless you’re lactose intolerant, who doesn’t like ice cream? if you’re worried about the mess just get it in a cup, or a milkshake lol

[@animecat889]

For our first date, my boyfriend and I went for a walk around our local lake. I loved it, it gave us the chance to talk for ages and get to see nature too

[@rlp4028]

I was going to ask you if you've seen this. You can find out a lot about a person before the date even starts. Today is my birthday and I consider this video a gift. Thank you, Courtney.

[@CourtneyRyan]

Happy birthday my friend! 🤍

[@bittersweetindustryexecutive]

Courtney! For starters, giving YOUR perspective and trying to hit something home is NOT the same as rambling on. Sometimes we keep harping on something because we feel it's important. Either for us, for our audience or both. If people think you're rambling on, they should just stop watching you and go to another channel. You're doing a great job by giving YOUR perspective and at the same time holding space for other people's take on whatever it is your touching on. Please don't stop being yourself. I like the way you show up as of lately. It's mature, classy, nuanced, empathetic and fun to watch . You also tend to add a little sprinkle of humor here and there, which adds up to the fun part. And at the same time, opiniated, thought through and NOT condoning EVERYTHING a woman does, says or acts out on just because you're a woman yourself. Also kudos for sharing your story about you having anxiety on your first date at the movies. It takes a lot of courage for an introvert like you (you have said so yourself) to come to the fore like that. Just keep being you! Cheers!✌

[@LatimusChadimus]

One thing people need to understand about the movie theater date is that works better for people that already know each other that want to have that chance to be alone in the dark where they won't be judged or caught doing anything. That's why it works for people that go to high school because then they can be alone and if one of the people are kind of embarrassed to be seen in public with the other at least they will be hidden in the dark

[@1D4ever]

My ex and I went to a movie for the first date it was great. We talked for 2 hours after the movie. Now we had known each other for months.

[@JACQUEZ23]

​@@1D4everfacts

[@kimr1806]

As a woman, I prefer these simple dates for a first date. You’re getting to know each other and it’s better to keep the first date short so you can grow the relationship slowly. It offers a quick exit if the vibe isn’t there. Everyone on these apps/dating like you’re going through a fast food drive thru is cringey. I will say, women like a man taking the lead, planning, and being mindful that location is reasonably in-between each other. It makes us feel cared for. High value women don’t appreciate sexting early either. If that is what you’re after, don’t pick the women on apps indicating they want a relationship. The ones who want flings will make that clear. If a man wants to split the 1st date, I use that as an indicator he isn’t interested in a 2nd and I don’t entertain proceeding if he asks. Just a gut feel.

[@hangoschmango]

Splitting the bill means he doesn't want to get used btw.

[@ajtaylor8750]

What's wrong with bowling? Nobody is expecting the woman or man to be a world class bowler. It's just a fun event that allows you to get to know the other person, but maybe they don't actually want to get to know the other person.

[@CourtneyRyan]

I agree lol

[@mar4kl]

I would put bowling in the "it depends" category. If your date enjoys bowling, that would be a plus. It's a shared activity, which can draw you closer, and that's also a plus. Another plus is that it's easy to end the date early if you find that you're not really enjoying each other's company. In the minus column, bowling alleys are noisy; they're open spaces that may leave you feeling like you're in something of a fishbowl; most have a bar, and alcohol and first dates aren't a great combination; a woman who dressed to impress you may find that her attire isn't comfortable for bowling (so don't make bowling a last-minute surprise!); and if you're both really competitive, bowling may backfire.

[@Jennthegreen]

Just wanted to post that women with nails, like the type they either pay for, or not, aren't going to go bowling. My family during the lockdowns went bowling every week as it was one of the only places that was open. My teenage daughter had to bow out...not because she didn't want to, but because she didn't want to ruin her manicure that she spends hours doing herself.

[@Pazuzu82]

I would just tell them to mark it zero, you were over the line!

[@DrBeef216]

It goes back to the idea that bowling alleys and people who bowl are grungey and beneath these elitist women.

[@manuelsteele7755]

I like the way Courtney divides the list into categories for which she disagrees or agrees. I grew up in a small town of rural AZ, and many of those types of communities don't have expensive restaurants. A more common "good first date" option would be a local mom-and-pop restaurant like a popular Mexican American restaurant revered locally. When I lived in North FL, Waffle House was often the only "restaurant" open after a major hurricane had gone by. I remember a hurricane hit Tallahassee and much of the city closer to the Gulf had the lights go out with fallen debris, broken power lines, smashed windows, etc. In the far nothern side of the city, the electricity was still on - and Waffle House was the only restaurant open with a ridiculously long line circling the building into the parking lot. There are many women in the FL seaside communities who also prefer sea food and actively do salt water fishing along the Gulf. A local mom-and-pop shop with red snapper in-season would bring out the enthusiasm for some of them. I think the choice also comes down to compatibility, socieconomic background and expectations, cultural context, etc. I realize Courtney is from the Midwest. When I was back at Notre Dame last spring, I met women from the ND/SMC community who I know would truly enjoy a major home game for ND football or basketball or soccer. ND is only about 90 miles from Toledo, OH. Most of them are from the Midwest or East Coast. The list reminds me of a set of episodes for "Two and a Half Men" where Charlie's girlfriend, Mia, tries to get him to eliminate meat and alcohol from his diet while insisting on daily exercise. Charlie half-heartedly agrees but winds up lying about it. Then they get into a fierce argument on a dinner date when Mia objects to his favorite meat entrees with alcohol at the very high-end restaurant. They break up then Charlie meets his "dream girl" who was Mia's roommate - a woman who enjoys baby back ribs, hard liquor, and gambling like Charlie - lol. It comes down to compatibility. I am surprised night clubs are not recommended. They do vary such that there are night clubs with mini concerts where tables are separated out where couples can talk. That was where I went on a first date with a woman I met from FSU at the gym - a blonde southern belle. I went on a first date with another woman from my Catholic Church who suggested a simple mom-and-pop type of restaurant. Here in Phoenix, AZ, Top Golf is very popular. The list is truly subjective.

[@williamschaefer282]

Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her.

[@williamschaefer282]

Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counsellor, and how do i reach her?

[@williamschaefer282]

Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive.

[@Maverick33]

Drink about 2 shots of whiskey and play Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010) for about an hour while listening to some AC/DC. It really works

[@johncoviello8570]

I think you nailed it, Courtney. Loud places like nightclubs are not good places to have a first date since you want to chat with with your date to get to know them. Same reason a movie is a bad first date. I think getting a coffee or similar beverage is a perfect first date since it allows you to relax and have a nice conversation, and if it really goes well, you could extend the date to something like a walk in a park or through a shopping mall. A sporting event would be a great first date if you both like the same team.

[@davidmoodie7752]

I always think the company is way more important than the venue. A girl I really liked loved clubbing, I am uncomfortable in that environment but I said I would go clubbing if she wanted to, as long as I was with her. She was so chuffed that I would do that for her, but said she didn't care where we went, as long as she could be with me and enjoy my company.We had an amazing evening.

[@teamportsmouth7618]

My new fiancee and I first went to church to ask God to help us discern whether we were right each other, then went out to dinner and had a wonderful time. Both of us being saved and having lost our spouses knew how important finding the right 2nd chapter was. By our 2nd time going to the church's Sunday bible study, we knew God was telling us we were meant for each other. Hope this post helps other in this 21st century of dating chaos. God wants his children happy while on earth.

[@1D4ever]

Sounds good it's rare marry her dude

[@francism9782]

If I'm taking a girl somewhere that I'm comfortable with and she feels like she's too good for it, then the dating location has done its job. (Oh...and, at least on the first couple dates, she's paying for herself.)

[@cisium1184]

If she's paying for herself, doesn't that kinda validate her opinion on where to go? I mean it's not really fair to make a person (man or woman) pay to be someplace he or she doesn't want to be.

[@francism9782]

@cisium1184 For all the talk of equality, women typically want men to take the lead. Therefore, it is my call by default. If she has a place in mind, then I will consider it. One way or the other, she's paying for herself until I'm certain that her interest is sincere and not just treating our meeting like a "foodie call."

[@Maverick33]

@@cisium1184 don't women make men pay for a whole date at some place they don't like??? Thought so. So his plan is warranted

[@avalosalex1993]

Men gotta pay no matter what, you’re the one who invited her on a date so you have to pay. Stop being cheap lol

[@francism9782]

@avalosalex1993 lol...if you gotta put down money for a woman to even be with you, that's worse than being cheap. Although I suppose renting is cheaper so who am I to judge. 😉

[@bengreatorex502]

This is literally one of the best channels on YT.

[@NormanF62]

If you want to skip the dating thing and be in a relationship, some of those things could be done differently if you trust each other and since you’re spending all your time together anyway, you might as well have fun. But if you’re going to do traditional dating, take things nice and slow and see where it goes.

[@falstaff9716]

Movie and dessert/coffee afterwards can be a great first date for introverts. Gives you a shared experience to talk about.

[@_T_elegram_RealCourtneyRyan_]

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[@dredgerivers7730]

Martha Stewart said that owning a private island is a hopeful start to a good first date.

[@christiandean1099]

I can agree to some things on this list. Fast food, home, some chain restaurants. I always recommend an activity or a local resturant/cafe. My gf and I went to one of our local cafes and it was great.

[@guitarmetaldemon]

Gentlemen, the best place for a first date is a coffee shop. It's inexpensive, and if you don't like her, you'll save money by not offering her dinner. IF you do decide to take her to a restaurant, get there 20 minutes early. Get a seat at the bar if you can. Tell the server, "I'm meeting someone here today. Please make sure you split the check no matter what she says." Preemptively split the check to save yourself the awkwardness. You're not running a charity. Save your money for more important things. If she's the right person for you, going half on dinner is the least of anyone's concern.

[@Swearengen1980]

Nope. A park, nature trail, anything where you can be active, move around, and interact with each other.

[@avalosalex1993]

If you initiated the invite you gotta pay no matter what. If you can’t afford it then don’t date, simple. You guys need to stop being cheap and bums lol

[@popofilipo7114]

My first date was at the hula grill restaurant in Waikiki. I pick this place because it has a front ocean view. The vibe was amazing especially at night time. The lights were dimming perfectly and the sound of the ocean waves makes it more romantic. The price was fair. Food n service quality overall?? 👌 Excellent 👌

[@darrenskjoelsvold]

So I dated a vegan and she was up for anywhere. I could have brought her to a steakhouse and she would have rolled with it. She would have ordered a special order but I actually took her to a restaurant that I had never been to on her suggestion which sounds odd but she and I were talking about where a vegan can find a good meal and she mentioned a restaurant that I had never been to that was just a few blocks from my office so that's where we went. We talked until they had to close and yes I ended up marrying her. That's the thing about dates and first dates. It doesn't matter where you go just whether or not you two vibe when you get there. Her first indication that we were clicking was that we talked all evening and she was normally so shy. She was astonished that we shut the place down when she had a hard time making small talk at family functions. You can take a woman to Chipotle and if you two vibe over your burritos then you'll need nothing but you two to have a good time. And you can have a great time at any of those restaurants. I am not sure if a movie is a good idea even if it's dinner and a movie because that puts a constraint on the date. The first date I had that lead to marriage would've been ruined or not been as impactful if we had to stop talking to catch a movie. So yeah dinner and conversation are what's called for. Women getting their noses bent out if shape turning them up at so many options is a recipe for disaster.

[@CadetClueless]

Thanks for doing a video on this one Courtney! When my brother showed me this list, I was baffled and am now disgusted with women more than ever now. More women need to hear this from you to get on the program that there is more important things for the first date than denying a date because of a restaurant or specific type of date.

[@BrianLannoye]

Her: I refuse to go on a date to x place. Me: It's not a date, it's just a meet up to see if we hit it off. Her, I'm not going there. Me. Ok. Meeting up isn't necessary. BTW. Cheesecake Factory brussel sprouts.. Perhaps not for a first date. But they did change my view of brussel sprouts.

[@coreyengwall6779]

Realistically some of these options could easily be consolidated, I mean Starbucks and coffee dates are basically one and the same, Chipotle and fast food, Chili’s and Applebees. My first date with my ex girlfriend was a local Mexican restaurant, followed by Starbucks, and some walking around, and I drove near an hour to the date (she couldn’t drive, health reasons). The pint is that there’s a difference between not wanting to go to that location verses refusing to go anywhere because of social media. My opinion, too many are looking at what other people are doing on social media and wanting to keep up with the Jones’s or to busy “starring in their own movie”.

[@Shuxy]

I dated a woman that specifically requested to watch a movie at my house for the first date 😂😂😂 I’ve never even suggested something like that for a first date before 😂

[@58jharris]

Maybe she wanted to scope out your place to determine how much money you have lol.

[@Jukeboxster]

she must've really liked you to be comfortable at your place for the first date.

[@bittersweetindustryexecutive]

@Shuxy Now you got me curious as to WHAT movie you guys picked. Sure hope for you it wasn't a female led vampire movie 😂 Cheers!✌

[@Shuxy]

@@58jharris Perhaps that explains why that was the first and last date 😆

[@Shuxy]

@@Jukeboxster I'd like to think that. At the very least I assume she didn't think I was a serial killer 😆

[@JonBoy79]

I've never been turned down when suggesting a coffee date. It's perfect. Low pressure, no alcohol, usually daytime due to their opening hours. You can just get a feel for eachother without being committed to an activity or a timeslot. You hit it off? Great, another more interesting date. You really hit it off, go somewhere else after.

[@WJSweeney]

A question for the ladies who are picky on first dates: What have you done to earn you a first date at a high end restaurant as opposed to a lower end type of venue? Basically, if a guy wants to go to a high end place on a first date, that’s his decision. But generally for a first date, keeping it simple and somewhat inexpensive is the best way to go. If she wins the guy over after the first date, then the guy can and should go better for future dates.

[@samuelsiedschlag4486]

Meeting someone for a coffee date should be fine, plus it's safe for both parties. I don't have go to a certain restaurant on a date, but eating out is expensive.

[@michaellombardi5831]

Yet so many articles are completely stumped about why more and more men are just keeping to themselves and avoiding women all together. Start counting down the days till the very same women that made this list say "But but but where have all the good men gone??"

[@f00dify]

I think going to get coffee as a first date while it would be cheap is a good way to see if the two of you are compatible. If it doesn't work out for whatever reason you won't be sitting awkward silence in a restaurant. And for me places like nightclubs doesn't come across to me as a dating environment but hook-up environment.

[@RedX32]

I tried taking a date out on a picnic type date. Thought it would be a change of pace from being inside and crowded. Picked a day with good weather and a place with shade. She was pretty pissy about it and left shortly into it. Ah well, more food for me that I had prepped myself.

[@CourtneyRyan]

Yikes. Dodged a bullet it appears - this sounds like a super cute date!

[@RedX32]

​@@CourtneyRyanMy sister actually gave me the idea for it. She was a bit surprised about the outcome as well 😅.

[@charlee_hotel]

I looooove picnics. Then again, was that place secluded?

[@RedX32]

​@@charlee_hotelIt wasn't secluded, it was by a tree near a little lake. I wanted to make sure there was plenty of visibility since we didn't know each other very well.

[@charlee_hotel]

@@RedX32 That actually sounds lovely!

[@cesargarduno5959]

Esa grabadora era lo que mas queríamos todos en los 80s. Lástima que ya ni los casettes se consiguen. Gran detalle la dedicatoria. Abrazos hasta allá.

[@MrSnitchley]

As a guy, I would never take a date to any of these places regardless if it was our first date or 100th. It's not a matter of cost or fanciness of any of these restaurants. It's the fact that they're homogenized chains. Unless you're in the most podunk town in the world, you can find a local eatery that's equal in quality to Applebee's, but it feels more special, especially if your date has never been there. And you get bonus points if it's someplace foreign/ethnic because that demonstrates you have broad tastes and won't want burgers or pizza every night. Look at it this way: a ramen or Thai restaurant costs the same as Chili's, but it makes you look more sophisticated. Why wouldn't you want to present that on a first date?

[@tomdixon1213]

The attitude of snobbery is breath taking. With rejection for those places I find out right away that I dodged a snob.

[@bigneiltoo]

It might be easier to just list places that ARE approved. But then you'd see things like "yacht ride".

[@1D4ever]

They are the guest they don't dictate it

[@moonguy30]

Bowling has been one of my most successful first dates. It’s a fun activity that easily breaks the ice and allows the two of us to be comfortable together.

[@ThePremiumChicken]

My wife and I went to McDonalds on our first date and we're still married 21 years and 4 kids later 😁

[@snorky776]

As a woman, I’d love a coffee date! Even though I don’t really drink coffee, I could order a tea. My husband took me to subway for our first date! It was affordable and easy. Gave us a chance to enjoy a couple subs and good conversation. Of course, we were already friends before we started dating, so that definitely played into things. This being said, a first date should be easy and fun! It’s a first date! It’s not a life or death final exam! Coffee dates, followed up with a walk in a park is perfect!!

[@mattc1830]

But you seem humble and want to get to know the person not to be there only for the experience and to be treated like a princess.

[@LatimusChadimus]

Speaking of the girl that didn't like the Cheesecake Factory backup plan, she wasn't wearing a bra and a five-star restaurant has a dress code so she would have heard it at the door. And, the fact that she was dressed the way she was should tell you that she's not a lady and she's not worthy of even the Cheesecake Factory, she's lucky to get Taco Bell if not hot dogs from Sunoco. Women like her will go to your house if you are the kind of guy that gets her flowing into the right emotions. You don't need to waste your money on trash because that stuff is free and it's everywhere

[@1D4ever]

You know it was a skit right

[@vijaynazari9246]

A date at the church depends on the activity being held at the church. It does not necessarily imply sitting through a church service. Many churches has numerous fun activities and date friendly activites throughout the week. But if the girl does not understand this, she might think it implies sitting through a church service.

[@simontmn]

In London here - I have NEVER had a first date reject a location. Either they are happy to meet where I suggest, or too busy. I had one woman from a rich background suggest oysters and champagne when that was above my budget, but considering she was going to fly in from overseas to see me... 😅

[@aliadeeb6859]

It's not impossible to both ignore the list, and choose a great place to eat at the same time that is acceptable to these people. Find a sit down restaurant like olive garden(I know that's on the list) but isn't a national chain. I took my ex girlfriend to a place called Mama Corollas and it wasn't any more expensive that olive garden would have been and it was a nice Italian place. Basically find a restaurant that isn't a chain but doesn't have but one location. Doesn't have to be super fancy. Olive garden or mama Corollas in broad ripple, IN: it will be $20/entre and 8.50 for a glass of wine (I don't drink) so that's $60 after tip chain or not. But for a first date, anything on the list is fine. Let them build their way up and you will do the same.

[@smithn.wesson495]

No Chili's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, Buffalo Wild Wings, Wingstop, Denny's, Red Lobster, Starbucks, Coffee dates, bar for drinks, nighclubs or waffle house. No fast food places either. Well, Courtney you just eliminated over 98% of the possible places to go out to eat in the city I live. Sorry, but not everyone lives in a large city or metro area.

[@PresTeddy1901]

Two simple rules for choosing a first-date dinner spot. 1 Avoid fast food restaurants and really high-end fancy places. 2 Check to see if the girl has any food or dietary restrictions and avoid places that don't have any options for her. Everything else is pretty much fair game. I have never not had a girl who didn't genuinely like the places I've chosen as long I've stuck with those rules.

[@SpoonHurler]

Me: I paid for a personal chef to cook meal for us on a hot air balloon ride Modern woman: A personal chef, so they couldn't even run their own restaurant!

[@flyer617]

As you say, it's all about communication and alignment. I see it as a filtering step; if the person you are going out with has very different expectations than you, it probably isn't going to work out. I've gone to a bunch of places on this list which ended in great relationships, and in one case we just had our 40th anniversary. So ignore this list completely.

[@jcnlaw]

If she is really into you, she will not care one bit where you go on the first date.

[@Te_legram_RealCourtneyRyan.]

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[@deanthroop8054]

Thank you, Courtney. Appreciate you trying to make things better.

[@SigmoidConMan]

This video has helped me decide on great places for first dates. Thank you! By the way, I’ve always noticed lately when women match with me on Hinge, they always make me start the conversation instead of replying to the original message I sent to initiate contact. From there, I send a follow up message either regarding my first message or something else on her page. After that I get ghosted. Is it really necessary to message a woman after she matched with me on Hinge, but did not reply to the message I sent before she matched with me or should I wait a while to see if she replies herself?

[@company543]

Never wait for women to make the first move. Just go for it or ignore, it they never will make the first move.

[@JACQUEZ23]

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[@eoinMB3949]

Bro do not use dating apps. You'll never find what you're looking for that way. Take your chances in the Real world instead

[@Dadnatron]

You should think about this as an investment in the future. Your time is important, and if a woman doesn't SHOW interest... she isn't interested. Don't chase her, as if you begin by chasing her... you will always be chasing her. That doesn't mean don't make the first move. But if she doesn't respond to you, she is just enjoying your interest, not YOU. A followup is OK, IF you think there is something special about her OTHER THAN HER LOOKS, because if she isn't responding, and she is good looking... OTHER GUYS SHE LIKES, also think the same thing, and she is just using you for her feeling of being desired. Nothing to do with you.

[@Jennthegreen]

Get off Hinge.

[@user-my6ss4mz4l]

My first date with my wife was at Denny’s. We’ve been married for 16 years, have three kids, and traveled the world as a family. Thank god I’m not single.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

It's pretty rough right now man. Women are just completely crazy these days

[@cheyennesmith3365]

The fact that they listed every possible scenario for a first date feels like they’re intentionally messing with men’s minds.

[@1D4ever]

Absolutely

[@thatexcalifornian6124]

I’m engaged and my soon to be husband and I have done lots of these things! Bowling especially! We get competitive and we love it!!

[@ThePillager2099]

Coffee Dates have been some quick saves for me when schedules don’t align. I usually follow up with mom n pop places that I’ve been to so I know the service, locale and prices are not only worth it but I feel more comfortable.

[@carpetburnbloodyknees1633]

I go to all those places on the list. And now I know I will be going for 50% off every time. Thanks,

[@_T_elegram_RealCourtneyRyan_]

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[@anthonyw5261]

I think everyone on the planet should watch this video!!!!!!! Bravo 👏 👏👏👏👏

[@Harikejn]

We need to stop seeking perfectionism, cause that's Mission Impossible. Tastes are not discussed. There are people that are living in villages, besides living in city, or town. But what is important is who we are deep in our head, and heart. I saw one quote that goes like this (you can correct me if I made a mistake): " If you want to change someone, the best way how to do it is to change yourself."

[@greatguyaaa]

Just recommended this channel highly to the Khan. Great work.

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[@meandgodzilla]

By far the best first date I have ever had- we lived about an hour away from each other. Met in the middle at Cracker Barrel for breakfast to make sure we didn’t hate each other (😁) Drove together 45 minutes to a place he chose for us. “Something fun to do”. Turns out it wasn’t open yet, so we went around the corner to a science museum for a couple hours. Then to the “fun” place - an adult arcade. It will be difficult to top that one.

[@travisp11]

In small town Nebraska some of the best places to go are the local bars and grills that they offer.

[@_TeIegram_PAGECOURTNEYRYAN]

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[@OriginalTodzilla]

I've been following Courtney for a while now and more times than not, I respectfully disagree with her. However lately she's been killing it and I've been agreeing with her. Hell I think I fell in love with her when she said "Red Lobster isn't cheap!". Courtney was adorable in this! Anyhoo, I have two takes on this: 1. Dudes, you should ABSOLUTELY use this list to vet out your next girl. Literally print out this list and throw a dart at it and take your "date" there. If she's like "ew I don't go there", BOOM! You just dodged a bullet. Remember what I always say: if a woman is physically attracted to you, she'll go anywhere and do anything for, and with you. You can invite her to a graveyard at 2am to drink Walmart vodka and she will go if she thinks yer hot. Which leads me into #2: The women that "made this list", will definitely end up alone and sad, and with a bunch of cats. Not to mention, I bet you my bank account, that the women that made this list went to a majority of these places with "Chad", he took her home, "had fun" with her, then ghosted her. So now these girls are all "anti" these places because it reminds them of Chad using them. Lastly hypergamy have taught these women that just because they "exist" they deserve a top 5% man, and with that top 5% dates. They don't understand they have little to no value past their youth and beauty. They should be thankful to get a taco from taco Tuesday at Taco Bell. 🎤👇

[@MikeKrause-c7h]

Was going out to a fancy restaurant with a date in downtown Denver when we walked passed a Cheescake Factory. She practically squealed with delight at how much she loves CF, and asked if we could go there instead. That girl earned gold star treatment that night.

[@ConnorDRyan]

My first date with my previous girlfriend was a walk around the park then ordering pizza. It doesn’t have to be complicated. She was interested in me as a person and made things very easy. That’s what you should be looking for.

[@RealCourtneyRyanon_T.elegram]

Am glad you took out time to comment I wanna have a discussion with you Above🤦‍♂️🛐🤷‍♀️

[@dylanvalencia3411]

Literally 90-95% of all my first dates fell into 3 of these: bars for just drinks (only did that once), and mostly coffee or ice cream/froyo dates. One of the best first dates I went on was a 3 hour coffee date. It doesn't need to be fancy for the date to be good. I'd almost go so far as to say that "activity" dates should almost be 2nd and on and not on the first date since you may be too fixated on the activity and not focusing on each other and the conversation itself.

[@sugoruyo]

My preferred approach is weekend morning/afternoon coffee, a single, low intensity activity that is conducive to conversation and might even provide subject matter, followed by brunch. Located somewhere centrally with only about 2h of planned time, the rest being open ended to keep things low pressure and comfortable. I’ve had the occasional “you mean you’re not paying for my £100 dinner the first time we go out?” but, for the most part, it’s been a reasonably effective first date approach.

[@damienbates]

A first date is mainly about finding a comfortable place to have a conversation. I’ve done walks with my dog at some nice local parks. We’ll usually grab a coffee or something tasty to eat from a local pastry shop and stroll the river trails. If everything is going good then we might hit a nice dinner or bar in the downtown area or save that idea for the next one. Don’t waste your time on people with low interest and choose those who choose you!

[@Assassin274]

Hey Courtney, itscomplicated is down for a collab if thats something that would interest you. You guys are both highly intelligent,open minded, creative and entertaining content creators. Would love to see it happen. Keep up the great work as always.

[@salehselan3026]

Courtney Ryan and Pearl the real ones of the internet 💯

[@jimgeyer3475]

Outstanding Commentary As Always!!! Priceless!!!

[@oaktreeman4369]

About sporting events. My late brother took his wife to Goodwood races, here in England. (Horseracing). They both loved it. It was a great day out for them.

[@itsroyc]

I agree with most of these. no chains. it's either just drinks, coffee date, park or some event for me. no fancy restaurants, ever.

[@07wrxtr1]

My girl and I hiked Delicate Arch for our first date 🤗… we had so much fun we also finished the day with Pine Tree and Landscape Arch…. On fresh snow and she even brought us lunch for the day. Almost a year later we live together and things are absolutely wonderful 😇😇😇😇

[@jthomascruz4890]

The one thing that everyone is forgetting on this is that context matters. It is a different story if I have a history with the woman that I asked out (i.e. we work together, go to the same school, attend the same church etc...) versus someone that I just met online. If I am asking someone out that I have known for some time and we got to the point that I am asking her out then I am going to plan out a date and of course most of that list will be out the door. However, if we met online I am only doing a coffee, ice cream, or drinks date. That protects both individuals from any awkward moments, keeps safety upfront, and protects the man from spending money on someone that is just out for a free meal. The only definite no go's for me on a first date regardless of the situation are Church, all the diners, fast food places, the buffet, and of course. Everything else is pretty much good to go, and if a woman has a problem with any of the others she is not worthy of going out with you.

[@Te_legram_RealCourtneyRyan.]

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[@luisLA751]

I don't understand why some people do not like coffee dates, I personally enjoy them and they have been some of the best dates I have ever had. It is never about the coffee itselt, but getting to know the other person and enjoying each others company. Most of my dates started like a Coffe date, but all of the sudden evolved into a long walk along the Canal, a park, or exploring the city's port and its art galaries. It was the time spend together and the conversations what made the date valuable. All of the sudden, a 50 minutes coffee date can transform into a 5 or 6 hours conversation. That is how I met my girlfriend, and it has been one of the best conversations I have ever had.

[@oscargomez6993]

olive garden is awasome

[@hwalter5432]

WOW, It was so nice of women to make a go/nogo test good men can use to weed out the gold diggers, the entitled, the women no man should waste time on!!! Thanks!

[@Sara-jd4gi]

I think that if people just get a little creative with their date location - it can turn a mid restaurant in to a beautiful moment. I studied in this small quaint student town and there was this very chill student hangout. During the day it was just a garden variety restaurant but at night with the lights and the wooden decor - it became a wonderfully lit log cabin. It is also on the banks of a river (which flows through the town), so at night the decor, lights and river all add romance and ambience even though the restaurant is mid. I think what most women are looking for is a special moment and they misconstrue that with a big financial display. Another idea is to go for a walk somewhere with curated gardens (like on a university campus if you are a student) with your favourite coffee and just sit amoungst the flowers - that to me is very romantic and cost effective. The more creative you can get - the less money you spend - I think.

[@terry412]

I give the same 1st-date advice that I give for job interviews: BE YOURSELF!! Why would you want a job where you have to pretend on the interview to be something you're not? If you lie & claim to have experience, won't the company find that out after they hire you? The same logic applies to dating.

[@kevinlamphere8113]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO, VERY INFORMATIVE