The Case Against Alec Baldwin | A Court TV Original

#AlecBaldwin faces criminal charges for the fatal shooting on the western film #Rust. Court TV breaks down what happened when Baldwin shot and killed cinematographer #HalynaHutchins.
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[@COURTTV]

#CourtTV - What do YOU think?

[@carrollsanders9376]

The History of the Gun was destroyed how does the defense get that history back after the Procecution destroyed it?

[@PhantomNites]

I know Alec is innocent.

[@rixvspinner]

Well I know I'm not paying $1.99 to post my opinion in the chat. I can do it for free on most sites so.

[@justjoy143]

Nobody cares... he's a disgusting pig!

[@NotMyCircusOrMyClowns]

Baldwin had his finger on the trigger when he pulled the gun from his holster.

[@DarkBayTB]

Hannah looks like a lazy teenager, “I am the armorer, at least I was”. That’s a bit flippant sitting in the police officer car. Then at her trial tried to make her a knowledgeable lady. Whatever.

[@withgoddess1119]

She is repulsive.

[@Shylows]

She was doing cocaine..Big factor..not paying attention and getting high receipe for a disaster.

[@chriswong9158]

Hannah hirer because she was "cheap" compare to other Armorer that was offer the job. watch this report again

[@DarkBayTB]

@@chriswong9158 Halls was the head armorer and handed the gun to AB, did he double check? And yes she was cheap, but someone had to vet her and someone had to ignore complaints about her work. She ultimately did put the live round(s) in the gun. There were two. No need to be snotty and tell people to watch it again. Before this event, I didn’t know there were armorers on movie sets, I thought it was fake guns with firecrackers on the inside. It has been eye opening, albeit, useless knowledge I’ve gained.

[@Shylows]

​@@chriswong9158she was doing coca in you watch again

[@StarwaterCWS]

Tip to Hollywood: There are thousands of highly trained armorers from our military vet pool. You want safety?

[@janacoll2312]

Be good for both sides

[@robwoodring9437]

And if you look at all the modifications the film industry is doing to airsoft guns...incredible.....it might not be long before there's no use for a real firearm on sets. I think the only problem they haven't tackled (aside from airsoft replicas of EVERY gun not being made yet) is casing ejection from auto/semiauto replicas. But they're getting believable "smoke" and "muzzle flash" already without needing CGI. Wouldn't be surprised if there aren't already startups trying to develop that tech for film as we speak.

[@pommiebears]

How true. My son is a “weapons specialist” in the Australian military (he has a different title but I’m not comfortable writing it), and I know how much he takes safety in his job seriously. He says the same as other people, especially in America. Weapons don’t kill people. People kill people.

[@StarwaterCWS]

@@pommiebears agreed. Actors are not the brightest bulbs in the socket… they act. Failure to hire a serious armorer landed this dim bulb in serious trouble. Minimum it’s involuntary manslaughter.

[@chriswong9158]

@@StarwaterCWS if the scene was to point gun to one head, would you believe Alex would not have "double check" the prop aka gun before using the said prop.

[@EmiliaJay]

Smh…this was so preventable, and so many people failed to adhere to the most simple of safety rules. My heart goes out to Halyna’s loved ones.

[@Carter_4hamilton]

It’s not the actors job to check, his job was to say his lines. The girl in charge of the gun should be charged…

[@1anonymize486]

@@Carter_4hamilton yeah but they said that specific scene didn’t need to have the trigger pulled. So why did he pull a trigger…I have pulled a trigger before on a revolver and let me just say it’s a lot of pressure on the finger

[@andrewobrien8665]

So by your logic, it's not the responsibility of a driver to avoid hitting a pedestrian if they happen to cross in their path.

[@taperecorder3]

ill bet hanna had something to do with it

[@taperecorder3]

shooting the gun has nothing to do with a live bulet being in the gun, its who had to do who handef gun to the the shooter?

[@taperecorder3]

ill bet you hanna was a sicopath, and jelocy was involved

[@Eyesofthebeholder214]

You hire a 24 year old pot smoker to handle a very difficult movie set. What could go wrong?

[@TakaChan569]

What does pot have to do with it, hell i hate elon but guy smokes and is one of if not the riches guy on the planet.

[@skydream25]

Justice for Halyna and her family

[@liviamoon]

❤️🙏🕯️🕊️

[@anacasco7765]

And this means... to have Hanna tell the truth. Period.

[@decafmocha211]

Why was there even 1 live round of ammunition on this set ???

[@DarkBayTB]

They found 5 or 6, including another one in the same gun.

[@cariann2220]

@@decafmocha211 because of the negligent armorer that's in prison

[@user-hc9lp3hb1r]

@@cariann2220 I agree that she should have caught the live rounds but I don't believe they were actually brought on the set by the weapons and ammo supplier who had used the same live rounds on a previous movie (1883) he was also supplying guns and ammo for.

[@cariann2220]

@@user-hc9lp3hb1r those rounds didn't show up until after lives were already on set, go back and watch the prosecutors closing statements in her case she really ties up all the pictures from evidence to show when lives were on set they were there before seth gave any ammo to the set and they were using boxes hannah provided to the set. (Thell reed also worked on the same set for 1883)

[@cariann2220]

@@user-hc9lp3hb1r go back and watch the closing arguments from the prosecutor she showed the evidence that there was lives on set prior to seth giving them supplies, hannah had provided the box that still had the live in it that she said she pulled from that day as well. Her father thell also worked on the same set for 1883.

[@wendl15]

I am trying to understand having firearms and live ammunition on a movie set. It’s a movie. Make believe. Fake guns and dubbing should be the norm. A senseless and completely avoidable tragedy.

[@barbsanti10]

Live rounds were on her cart but of course no one knows how they got there! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@robwoodring9437]

Live ammunition never needs to be on set, true. Real firearms, tho, are a necessity until the VFX industry gets past a couple hurdles to eliminate that need. I'd say 5 years or less there'll be no real guns in movies, but there'll be smoke, muzzle flash, and fake shells ejecting from modified airsoft guns without CGI. All they'll add in post is the sound of the gunfire, which they do already.

[@AnnMo2]

Dubbing?

[@robwoodring9437]

@@AnnMo2 dubbing is the technique of adding/replacing sounds during the editing process of a movie. Example: you've NEVER heard a real gunshot in a movie. They're all pre-recorded individual gunshot sounds that are added later. If they were real (and at real-world volumes), every movie gunshot would destroy the speakers in every movie theater.....along with your ears

[@AnnMo2]

@@robwoodring9437 oh, I thought you meant like dubbing over voices, like in a studio, which I know sometimes they have to record some lines over, but when I hear "dubbing", I thought of like those old Japanese Godzilla movies. 😄

[@carlf.9035]

My humble opinion , he definitely is another equally responsible party. He held and pulled trigger pointing directly straight at people in front of him, he was a producer who was okay with hiring the least experienced armorer on a gun heavy film, he was calling a lot of the shots and rushing scenes. He didn't address multiple complaints with safety on set and he was working with a gun provider whose storage system looked like something out of a hoarder's garage.

[@carrollsanders9376]

Industry standards may have made it impossible to prevent this accident sadly people in the industry didn’t care about human life.

[@whitefawn01]

You cannot say it was murder or intentional. It was whoever loaded the gun with a live round whether the person was "seasonal " or not. That was their job and they screwed up. This isn't like what happened on the Spielberg Twilight Zone. Everyone knew what was going to happen except the live round. I really feel for Alec Baldwin. 😢

[@rosieb471]

@@whitefawn01there were liivc rounds in the holster he was wearing .

[@Roobz2000]

​@whitefawn01, of course, it wasn't intentional. The first rule of gun safety is to never assume the gun is empty. And never point a weapon at something you don't intend on shooting. Whoever has the gun in their hand is 100% responsible for the actions of the gun.

[@user-hc9lp3hb1r]

@@whitefawn01Nobody says it was intentional. However, Baldwin created an unsafe atmosphere on the set by rushing people and ignoring basic safety. He did not check the gun he was handed to confirm it was "cold" which is standard industry practice. His negligence and carelessness contributed to causing the death of Hutchins and he is rightfully charged with involuntary manslaughter.

[@Sean_B_]

Justice For Halyna Hutchins ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

@@Sean_B_ I feel the actual max penalty isn't even close to justice for all three.

[@Sean_B_]

@@bobbysenterprises3220 I agree.

[@CrystleShadows]

Why would there ever be real bullets on a set?!? With all the other options, & I’m just assuming there are other options❓⁉️🤔

[@markedwards4443]

@@CrystleShadows my only guess is for the realistic of it but yes I definitely agree with you with all of the special effects nowadays

[@CrystleShadows]

@@markedwards4443 Yes..👍😊

[@markedwards4443]

@@CrystleShadows this really is a sad tragedy that could have been easily fixed corrected stopped

[@lauriemyers3]

This has always been my question

[@TheRange7]

That's the real question in my mind. Why oh why would they have live rounds on a film set where firearms are being used? Hopefully the trial will bring some clarity on that issue.

[@wygantsh]

Hannah should have received a much longer sentence due to her unrepentant callous indifference regarding her gross negligence which contributed to Haylnas death

[@chrissyellem7397]

The law has been changed since this crime. 18 months was the max before.

[@jerry7433able]

All liberals think that way says alot about your comment

[@johngalt0096]

@@jerry7433able 🤦🏻‍♂️🥴🥴🥴🤮

[@nosuchthing8]

​@@jerry7433ablethink what way? Please elaborate.

[@jerry7433able]

Her Twitter has been all post deleted! That says enough.. I may have screenshot it I’ll check later

[@drinkinhand5538]

Halyna May her Memories be a Blessing to her Family and Friends .Court TV Thx for the Excellent Work you all Do

[@catherineturley]

I blame him for hiring someone incompetent and for rushing the set; creating an unsafe environment. I don't understand why someone who may not even know what ammo looks like would be expected to inspect the ammo. Trigger pull is besides the point.

[@Kay__Tee]

Alec has been handling guns all his life. He is well away of the different types of ammo used on film sets.

[@pattyedzards8587]

Trigger pull is the cause of death.

[@tcmHearts]

@@catherineturley yes, the people who left the movie could probably sense if that problem doesn’t get fixed something bad is gonna happen. And it did. You don’t shortcut safety.

[@xcountryrunner9]

Yea his rushing the set was not responsible especially since guns were involved.

[@StarwaterCWS]

People that hate guns shouldn’t play with guns.

[@vickimurray910]

That doesnt make sense idiot its a movie

[@carrollsanders9376]

People who manufacture Dummies shouldn't make them less safe.

[@rosieb471]

And he actually requested a big gun.

[@carrollsanders9376]

@@rosieb471 What does that have to do with anything it wasn't a 105 Howletzer it was a 45 long colt the same as the rest.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

Duh huh. Thank you. So simple. Nice to c some common sense in this mess.

[@TheJapanChannelDcom]

About 500 accidental firearm deaths EVERY YEAR in the USA. 30,000 a year total. If you want to continue to have a society where folks be totting guns - this wont change.

[@fleonard4]

"do you want to check". He's 100% on the hook. If anyone hands you a gun, what you do next, you own.

[@nixwestlake9196]

I feel so sad for Helyna 😢

[@dave1283]

Baldwin's best 'performance' was when he was told she didn't make it.

[@janmortimer1758]

I thought that too!!!

[@Treviso100]

I’m sure he was absolutely devastated. Imagine being in his shoes.

[@dh5380]

You read minds too? Haha!

[@betsyj59]

David Halls' acting during questioning was horrendous but then he's not a professional actor. He does have years of experience protecting the reputation of actors on movie sets, however.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

His reaction to finding out she bad died is genuine. Stages of grief begin immediately. Shock and disbelief. Idt anyone thks he did it on purpose. Recklessness. And she lost her life. ❤❤

[@pommiebears]

He didn’t do it on purpose. Baldwin might be a narcissist, but he’s not a murderer. BUT, his disregard for the safety of those around him, his arrogance and pushy nature, all had a role to play in the death of this poor woman, who leaves a husband and son behind.

[@vikaz3408]

He’s not responsible criminally. But because there is a life lost, he might be responsible morally. It is the armourer’s fault.

[@AnnMo2]

He is the one who ignored every rule of gun safety and fired the gun. How is he not at fault?

[@jeffbortz8782]

No his fault gun was in his hand and he didn't check it I don't care if God himself said it's cold it your responsibility to check it

[@pattyedzards8587]

When a person causes a death accidently from neglect, they are criminally responsible. Thus the filing of charges.

[@kendal4452]

This isn't very easy. If you're an actor, you're not thinking there is a live round in the gun. Alex didn't intend to kill this young woman. The issue is who had responsibility for that gun and what the policies are on set for safety for both actors and crew? There was a live round on set. How did that happen and what was done to prevent something like that from happening. Maybe they could have used guns that can't fire live rounds. Not sure if they exist. You can't use guns without there being safety protocols. Justice for Halyna Hutchins. By the way, who hired Hannah the purple and yellow hair Armorer, she looks as if she has no experience what-so-ever.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

Gun Safety 101: "There's no such thing as a gun that isn't loaded." "Never point a gun at anybody you don't intend to shoot, and never shoot anybody you don't intend to kill." It's as basic as "Don't drink and drive." A drunk driver isn't INTENDING to kill anybody but we hold him responsible if he does because he did something inherently dangerous. Ditto with pointing a gun at somebody.

[@zmanzoran]

When seconds matter..."you got a seal"..."um, let me spend the next few minutes digging around my bag to try and find that seal"

[@susystewart5569]

!!!

[@conniegravelle1803]

He just comes off as so arrogant and egotistical. Reflex alone he pulled the trigger. He acted sporadic.

[@nosuchthing8]

That's what the prosecutor said too. Turns out the case was dropped and one of the prosecutors resigned.

[@mariagutierrez4721]

No real guns should be used . it also happend to Brandy Lee.. very unprofessional whoever loaded the gun is more responsible

[@robwoodring9437]

The tech isn't fully there yet, and didn't even exist back when The Crow was made. I bet in less than 5 years every set gun will be a very convincing modified airsoft gun tho. Couple of technical hurdles to get past yet.

[@youtubegarbage7876]

Her name was Brandy Lu, not Brandy Lee - Brice Lu's daughter.

[@mariagutierrez4721]

@@youtubegarbage7876 Ok

[@AesopsFables007]

Brandon Lee And who got prosecuted in that case!

[@pommiebears]

It was not a bullet that killed Brandon Lee. It was the remnant of a dummy round, or something similar. Again, lack of respect for the guns, and safety.

[@Loljjkb]

I remember losing my brother when I was 8. I can’t imagine the hurt and pain her 10 year old son felt. I had so much to say to my brother but he was never going to listen to me again.

[@bianca4931]

Give all your kids a HUGE hug-you are going to prison

[@Treviso100]

He won’t go to prison.

[@lizlapara9656]

2 people were responsible for the firearm before given to the actor regardless if the actor didnt do his check point...

[@cariann2220]

@@lizlapara9656 and they charged all 3 for their negligence resulting in death

[@blackcoffee.]

Halls got off easy.

[@superagent-vh2ze]

Halyna and her family have justice. Alec was handed a loaded gun. The gun was not checked properly. Those responsible for gun safety are in prison. Or took a plea deal. The set was small and quiet. It was a rehearsal for camera.

[@TheRange7]

WRONG on all counts

[@amylynn732]

​@@TheRange7ok bot troll

[@amylynn732]

@superagent-vh2ze Totally agree 💯

[@TheRange7]

@@amylynn732 LOL

[@lozhiggo828]

REPLY TO COMMENT LEFT BY '@superagent' - BRAVO & well said. Thank you

[@PC1974]

This was a great documentary on this tragic case. Baldwin has at least 50% of culpability in this poor woman's shooting. I hope justice is served for the victim and her grieving family. 🙏😪

[@dh5380]

How about you let the jury decide? That’s how we do it in America!

[@PC1974]

@dh5380 I'm still entitled to my opinion. I've seen the way you do things in America - cops pin the crime on the first person they suspect just to save on the paperwork.

[@cdcd4358]

​@PC1974 It was an accident not intentionally justice for Baldwin

[@PC1974]

@@cdcd4358 Still doesn't rule out a charge of involuntary manslaughter.

[@nosuchthing8]

Yup. The case was dropped. With predudice.

[@user-nz5iz9ce8o]

Who would ever take a firearm from someone and not clear it themselves? That is basic safety.

[@sandraperkins7706]

Didn't they already have complaints before the murder ??? People were walking off the set ??? Don't you remember ???

[@markedwards4443]

@@sandraperkins7706 most likely it's because he looks like he was nothing but in a rush to get everything done let's go let's go let's go

[@cariann2220]

@@sandraperkins7706 yes they mention it here

[@juneyshu6197]

Yes. Yes we do.😢

[@TheRange7]

Yep, and that's downright scary to me.

[@isabel.bolivia]

So? He didn't ask for real ammunition

[@tammytrevino3104]

Common sense is that you don't point a gun at anyone and you definitely don't point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. Last everyone had their guard down and wasn't worried because the script didn't have Alex pulling the trigger let alone pointing it at anyone so in my opinion it's his fault

[@AnnMo2]

@@tammytrevino3104 but he would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger!! He said so!!! I totally believe him, he would never lie............... 🙄😉

[@Treviso100]

The script did have him pointing the gun directly at the camera.

[@AnnMo2]

@@Treviso100 okay, I have heard differently, but in any case, he wasn't pointing the gun at the camera.

[@Treviso100]

@@AnnMo2 Yes, he was pointing the gun at the camera. And both the DP and director were standing right next to the camera.

[@AnnMo2]

@@Treviso100 no, he wasn't. He said it himself. He was pointing it towards the camera, but not at the camera. He was pointing it directly at Halyna and we know this because she is dead. There are many videos and pics of him taking out the gun and aiming it, with his finger on the trigger. You can see for yourself. You can also watch the George Stephanopoulos interview, in which he specifically says he wasn't aiming at the camera. The script didn't have this scene. It was an incidental.

[@graemeorr5884]

It doesn’t sound like anyone that worked on that movie was on top of the game, cutting costs and hiring second rate talent

[@sunflowerbeth3830]

Guns are not to be treated as props under any circumstances. Alec pointed and pulled the trigger even though he knew better.

[@juneharris2018]

Yes. He damned-well did know better. He's been in the industry for years, and played in plenty of movies where he had/used a gun.

[@TheRange7]

Always treat every firearm as if it's loaded. Never point a firearm at a person or thing unless you're willing to destroy it. Firearms 101

[@fleonard4]

Gross negligence, 100%. He was even using it as a pointer, and waving it at everyone. If there's justice, he's done, but Hollywood.

[@xelionizer]

Common sense in America is different to common sense in the rest of the world

[@robertmaxwell3220]

Should be LAW! No live ammo on movie sets,period! Also licensed security can carry.

[@JulieWallman]

I've worked on many sets like this over the years, it's time for change and for the film industry to start making sure that scripts are workable for schedule and realistic, lives have been lost and people in accidents that could have been avoided. Sadly it's had to come to this.

[@North_West1]

Unless AB learned trigger discipline (finger in trigger guard) over lunch…his finger was on the trigger when he pulled the weapon after lunch.

[@Treviso100]

It was supposed to be. They were filming a close-up shot of him drawing the gun from his holster and pointing it at the camera. You would never do that and have your finger outside of the trigger guard.

[@pommiebears]

22:52 Mr Baldwin, unfortunately, is a horrible narcissist, and simply cannot keep his mouth shut. Even for his own sake.

[@PC1974]

@@pommiebears The way he spoke to his daughter on that horrid voicemail told me all I needed to know about his true character.

[@betsyj59]

It really is an amazing thing to watch.

[@ebogar42]

Is that why he's a free man today?

[@ebogar42]

@@betsyj59 Was really amazing when the judge said case dismissed. 😂😂

[@ebogar42]

@@PC1974 Y'all are the biggest hypocrites ever. Like you've never disrespected someone or ran your mouth. You're running your mouth now. Nobody likes someone that talks behind people's backs either. Say it to his face.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Alec Baldwin does not strike me as the most well balanced individual 😅

[@loribaker8339]

Would you be if you had 7 little kids and you were 66 years old? His wife is an idiot by having all those kids with a old man. Nannies or not.

[@ralphmajor1947]

He's a loose cannon!!!

[@loisfolk5492]

Baldwin is a type a personality a little tightly wound, but that doesn’t mean that if he was handed a gun that he was told was safe that it’s his fault. The armor loaded the gun and the assistant Director handed him the gun declaring it safe. He was very upset. How would you like this to happen to you? That being said someone died at two people were in line. He said the gun was safe. Hall should have been charged also. The armor being on drugs certainly was not helpful.

[@ralphmajor1947]

@@loisfolk5492 always check for your own peace of mind 😌 ✨️ 👌!!!

[@ebogar42]

Name one person that is well balanced. Everyone is off in some way.

[@richardbowers3406]

I don't understand why the judge has ruled against Baldwin being labeled as producer? It was Alec Baldwin (producer) that gave the orders. It was Alec Baldwin (producer) that violated safety mandates. It was Alec Baldwin (producer) that fired the lethal bullet.

[@deenaweeks5837]

I definitely believe David Hall took a plea deal

[@annb8296]

He did.

[@DarkBayTB]

Probation, no jail time.

[@cariann2220]

@@deenaweeks5837 alec and hannah both refused to take a plea when offered

[@amylynn732]

​@cariann2220 there was a deal offered to AB and the day before he was going to take it, the prosecution withdrew it

[@cariann2220]

@@amylynn732 I don't believe he ever would have taken it, it had on it that he pulled the trigger and his ego is way to big to admit to that after lying to the whole world that it was not pulled. So not buying what his lawyers are trying to sell with that one

[@christinemaney2294]

I’m sorry, there’s one guy in this trailer who says, “Alec Baldwin couldn’t care less.” That is just ridiculous.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

U know?? I was back and forth. But then i remember Brandon Lee. And the peoole killed in an old movie directed by John Landis i think. And i flip rt back to GUILTY

[@cariann2220]

He was saying that the prosecutors are going to try to show that he couldn't careless.

[@l.t.8472]

It's true, he doesn't care about anyone but himself. He mistreats people because he thinks he is so much better than them.

[@juneharris2018]

What about that would be ridiculous, in your opinion? Put yourself in the perspective of a potential jury member: Is it appropriate timing for a defendant, such as Baldwin, to act like it's business as usual and go ahead with a REALITY TV SHOW about his life, of all things? And he's doing it with a smile on his face, to boot.

[@TheRange7]

He certainly comes off that way Christine. Who on earth can think about filming a reality TV series with this hanging over their head? Serious question. I'm going to just assume, he ain't doing for the money.

[@janesheridan7967]

Hannah was arrested at a dive bar in Santa Fe for showing up with a firearm.

[@patriotiac572]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. The gun did not "go off.". Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger and killed Halyna Hutchins.

[@janicestewart8291]

Who was in charge of loading those guns for the set??? The Armourer! Who was responsible for handing Alec "that gun?" Huh??? Someone put that bullet in that gun---then what? Just hand it off without looking in the chamber? The armorer IS the professional and is to keep everything safe. That's what they/her was hired to do!!!---good lord.

[@kindness12345]

Exactly!!!

[@kindness12345]

Alec is the guy that pointed, pulled the trigger on that gun. He had the obligation to ensure that gun was cold!

[@juneharris2018]

He also lied about it after the fact.

[@Sam4got]

@@janicestewart8291it doesn’t matter who loaded the weapon. AB had the opportunity to not point directly at a human. He chose poorly.

[@truecrimenut6696]

“ The idea she could stop Baldwin is ludicrous.” SPEAKS VOLUMES.

[@LisaD007]

I never saw Alec cry about what he had done.

[@Treviso100]

I’m sure there’s been a lot of that. Just not in front of a camera.

[@helen6191]

"if it was a suicide scene" Alec Baldwin would of slowed down to triple check the gun. That was a great example.

[@texanasimmons1761]

Im 45 yrs old and have been shooting guns since I was 6. My dad raised my 5 older bros and myself around guns and the very first time he handed me a gun, he handed it to me and told me, seconds later, asked me if it was loaded. I told him, I didnt know and he took it away from me and told me I couldnt shoot. As he turned away I asked him why I couldnt shoot. Id been looking forward to this moment in my life, I was finally going to get to shoot a real gun. My dad turned back to me and knelt down to look me directly in the eye. He said, "Any time, every time someone hands you a gun, ALWAYS assume its loaded!" He then told and showed me how to open a gun to see if it was loaded. It was a lesson he repeated, every time he took me shooting, until it was firmly in my memory to always check a gun.

[@didee86]

It was a prop gun handed to actor as a dead gun.

[@texanasimmons1761]

@@didee86 Well obviously even prop guns can shoot a projectile that can kill or maim. Im not saying Alex is guilty, but he still should have checked to see how it was loaded. I think it was a terrible, horrible accident and ultimately the armorer carried the blame. Shes the one who loaded it and it was her job to make damn sure it was truly safe.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

@@didee86 It was a real gun. I don't care if Jesus Christ came back in the flesh and handed me a gun and said it wasn't loaded I'm not pointing it at anybody because there's no such thing as a gun that isn't loaded.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

@@texanasimmons1761 The term "prop gun" only means that it was being used as a prop. It was a fully functional firearm and he was treating it like a toy. He's just as responsible for that woman's death as if he'd been driving drunk and run over her.

[@Treviso100]

The problem is this gun was supposed to be loaded. With dummy rounds.

[@LindaLlewellyn-yo1gf]

🌺 Justice4Hylana 🌸

[@melissadiaz2207]

If this is just the movie, why did they need real bullets and a real gun?

[@janiterinadrum1627]

Why was there a gun with real ammunition in it anywhere near the set why we live round anywhere near the set? No one has ever answered that question. It’s ridiculous that no one has an answer for that.

[@marlowops]

I hope Alec goes to jail for 10 years.

[@tomtom6319]

Hey, at least Alic made them all wear masks

[@DarkBayTB]

Alec has some culpability, but he didn’t cause this to happen solely. Who’s responsibility is it to properly de-arm weapons? Who’s responsible for keeping live ammunition off the set? Why was there live ammunition even present? If Alec looked at the bullets in that gun, he’d see dummy bullets, should he be expected to know the difference? That’s what an armorer does. If there were already safety concerns and ignored, who’s responsible for safety? The Halls man pleaded and is out of the picture, he also accepted responsibility and had genuine remorse. Has Alec shown genuine compassion? I didn’t see it his police interview. It was like him sitting on a talk show. I’m not a Baldwin fan, however it appears like he’s being made the face of a very tragic, horrible tragedy due to his fame and fortune.

[@Friendofstfrank]

No.

[@DarkBayTB]

@@Friendofstfrank No what?

[@Sam4got]

Everyone else is doing the time allowed by law- AB is the last one in line to be in court. He was offered a plea and refused hence we are here.

[@DarkBayTB]

@@Sam4got Oh I didn’t know he turned down a plea!

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

Gun Safety 101: Never point a gun at anybody you don't intend to kill. "There's no such thing as a gun that isn't loaded" is a saying for a reason. Pointing a gun at a person is as irresponsible as driving drunk.

[@KarlBergman-mi1tz]

They should play Alec's Hollywood video confession for the jury, complete with elevator music.

[@jeffbortz8782]

You don't trust anyone when it comes to a weapon, guns in your hand your responsibility is yours to check the weapon

[@jaygunny8402]

There shouldn't have been any live rounds anywhere near the set. Production should have been halted Immediately and removed those rounds.

[@Treviso100]

Production was halted immediately. The entire production was shut down.

[@michaelcarter3699]

Real cinematic thumbnail

[@Agaliki6]

Safety first, they're all accountable!

[@salsaslife362]

Why was live ammunition on set? Some one put the bullet in there and Alec pulled the trigger as per the set. But my question still stands out and bithers me, WHT WAS LIVE AMMUNITION ON SET???

[@Sam4got]

Not one human will admit they were shooting ‘plinking ‘ on set when they weren’t working. That particular bullet is interesting for sure and Hannah Reed was given a gun just like that for Christmas the year prior. Sooooo someone isn’t talking.

[@salsaslife362]

@@Sam4got exactly, a life lost to something that should of been avoided now hevwill pay the price. Sad.

[@Karl-Benny]

Why was she not fired before the incident if it was so obvious she was incompetent

[@suziq900]

Ugh.. asshole or not, the shot was rehearsed quite a few times and unless he left the room to reload, he cannot beheld accountable! It’s the way they worked, trusting chain of command. Imo

[@rouke3254]

This. It wasn't his responsibility to check if the ammo was live or not this is why they have an armorer for this very specific reason whose sole responsibility was to manage the firearms on set. Live ammunition should have never been introduced on the set in the first place. The person who should have provided oversight to the armorer was Dave Hall who took a plea deal while being able to tell multiple different versions of his story.

[@DarkBayTB]

@@suziq900 Totally agree. Everyone on set has a role to play. There was no intent for anyone to be harmed. Dave Halls has been slippery in his recollection, and he’s probably the most culpable on that set. He was supposed to watch HG check the gun and check himself. Aside, in all the gun movies George Clooney was in, did he stop, take bullets out of gun, check them all, then put them back in? Absolutely not. His stupid ass statement right after the tragedy really spun people up. Shame on him too.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

Gun Safety 101. If God Almighty tells you the gun isn't load you still treat it as if it is. You treat EVERY functional firearm as if it's lethal. Full stop. Pointing a gun at somebody is every bit as reckless and inexcusable as driving drunk.

[@sunrise1201]

@@thesisypheanjournal1271 1000%. Also you don't point it at anyone, unless you are reckless.

[@Treviso100]

However, he was never supposed to point the gun at people and pull the trigger, which he did.

[@TheRange7]

Of course this was 100% an accident, that's never even been in question in my mind. That said, Baldwin aimed the firearm at a person and pulled the trigger. Therefore, Baldwin is responsible for the death of Halyna, period. Scott Rasmussen in this program said it better than anyone else I've heard so far. (I'm totally paraphrasing here) >>>>>If Baldwin's scene in this movie was him committing su*c*de by firearm you can bet your last dollar that he himself would have double and triple checked that firearm before the scene went live, 100%

[@susanmasterson4036]

The gun had real bullets in it but he didn't fire the gun with that knowledge, similar to someone who purchases a stolen object without knowing that it was stolen. There is no criminal intent in either of these situations. You can't turn this into a circumstantial case, either. No criminal intent, criminal negligence, or involuntary manslaughter.

[@barbsanti10]

Hannah didn’t hand him the gun. He was supposed to check the gun himself as well so yes, he’s absolutely at fault.

[@j.s.3297]

The law doesn't change because you're on a set...if he handles a real firearm he is responsible as anyone else who handles one.

[@DollHousebeauty01]

Intention doesn't protect you criminally that's why people get charged for vehicular manslaughter. They didnt intend to kill someone with their car but if they did they could be charged criminally.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

A drunk driver doesn't get behind the wheel intending to kill somebody, but if he slams into another vehicle and kills somebody he's responsible. Gun Safety 101 is that you NEVER point a functioning firearm at anybody you don't intend to kill. He was on enough movie sets with guns that he got that training. They teach you "There's no such thing as a gun that isn't loaded." Even if you just took all the ammo out yourself, checked that there wasn't a round in the chamber -- you still treat that gun as if anybody you point it at might end up dead. He was playing Russian roulette with the lives of people on the set and unfortunately Halyna lost.

[@barbsanti10]

@@thesisypheanjournal1271 love this

[@sauceboss3101]

Lmao Alec acting all surprised that the lady he shot died

[@posticusmaximus1739]

Life in prison without parole AT A MINIMUM!

[@johnmunro4952]

Total acquittal!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

I dont care who you are. You go waving a gun around and pointing it at people as you talk. Im telling him to stop. Especially if im one of tbise people. Thats willingly. Knowingly. Recklessly. Elements of every crime.

[@blackcoffee.]

No surprise the cart was 'un-maned' ... the armourer position was a half time position along with props master. Not usual. Another sign this was a no budget squeeze. Again this is on Baldwin. But he didn't pull the trigger - sure!

[@rodgodx345]

are they seriously gonna let the person free who is responsible for putting a live round on a movie set? like what the hell.

[@Linusdmc]

Alex, go under a rock,you are to old and shaky to have a gun. You had your time and money.

[@asherhouseman6838]

He should have checked the gun.

[@Treviso100]

Checked it for what? It was supposed to be fully loaded for the close-up they were filming.

[@anacasco7765]

HOW CAN YOU TELL - looking at a bullet - that it is a live one? Baldwin's duty WAS to act... and he did that.

[@itayonplay352]

@@Treviso100 There should be a common-sense rule in the industry that every actor should check the gun before shooting it, It's not that hard to check and I don't understand why it wasn't acceptable in the industry until now.

[@Treviso100]

@@itayonplay352 Because most actors know anything about weapons or ammo. That's why they hire a professional armorer whose only job it is to make sure the weapons are safe and ready. But unfortunately this was a very low budegt movie, with a young and inexperienced armorer, live rounds inadvertantly made their way onto the set, she didn't notice, and then Baldwin pointed it two people and pulled the trigger, which should have never happened. A lot of things had to go wrong and line up for Hylena to be killed

[@Treviso100]

@@itayonplay352 what would he have checked the gun for? It was supposed to be fully loaded. He’s not going to recognize the difference between a dummy round and live round if the armorer couldn’t!

[@susieannei5641]

I liked the perspective of the firearm expert at the end: If Baldwin was doing a scene where he was to act out his own suicide he surely would’ve checked the gun and checked it twice. He didn’t respect the people around him as much.

[@j.s.3297]

I watched the part were the actors guild claims actors are not responsible for safety on sets .....I disagree...if an actor handles a real firearm they are absolutely responsible for handling that weapon, the law does not change because you're on a set.

[@sherezada121345]

He did it.

[@amymiller8964]

He absolutely is not responsible for in this. This is just about money.

[@TheRange7]

LOL, you're a lost soul and a clueless one too. The money part has already been handled.

[@gmimi2]

LMAO sure Alec.

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

Gun Safety 101: "There's no such thing as a gun that isn't loaded." You treat every operational firearm as if it's lethal. Full stop. There's never a legitimate reason to deviate from that. He was being just as irresponsible as if he was driving drunk.

[@Treviso100]

This is a criminal case, not a civil case. It has nothing to do with money.

[@TheFrogfeeder]

How does a show like The Walking Dead use real weapons and have hundreds of thousands if not millions of shots fired over the life of the series by dozens and dozens of different people, and never have such an accident?

[@rodgodx345]

You telling us there’s not footage of Baldwin pulling the gun out and shooting the photographer?

[@deenaweeks5837]

YES! YES! YES! Seth Kenny ! But Hannah has some responsibility being the armour

[@nixwestlake9196]

Idk how you can be an armorer and be so negligent but she was a 24 yr old messing around with drugs too. Her brain isn’t even completely grown by 24

[@wmonger]

Since this happened, Alec has only cared and worried about himself. A true monster.

[@dreambig1082]

The TLC new reality show he s doing proves it .

[@anacasco7765]

Can you understand that he was tricked... THAT IS A TERRIBLE FEELING. AND this lousy investigation did not find WHO PUT five LIVE BULLETS "mixed among the others"!! THIS INTENTIONAL CRIMINAL is still out there... and he/she might be laughing at what he/she did. 😥😥😥

[@cdcd4358]

Who else should he be Worrying about

[@Murgatroyd999]

What is truly shocking was the fact that both the ground paramedics & the RN/flight medic team both attempted to insert an endotracheal tube & did not recognize that it was not placed in the trachea but was misplaced in the esophagus. So instead of ventilating the lungs with oxygen, she was getting NO/ZERO oxygen. But for these mistakes Ms. Hutchins might have survived. It’s pretty unbelievable that in 2021 prehospital providers could make a fatal mistake like this.

[@Kay__Tee]

it's doubtful she would have survived. Do some research. This mistake is actually not that uncommon.

[@Murgatroyd999]

@@Kay__Tee 32 years of prehospital experience, hundreds of intubations, ground & helicopter and I’ve never taken a patient to the hospital with a tube in the esophagus. How many tubes have you dropped?

[@Kay__Tee]

@@Murgatroyd999 lol good for you. that's anecdotal. Just because you havent doent mean its not uncommon.

[@marnidamoulakis3827]

@@Murgatroyd999just out of curiosity, where do you work? Australia or the UK?

[@rebeccafrye5646]

More to this then we'll ever know!

[@l.t.8472]

Alec is a liar, a total jerk and don't give a darn about anyone but himself.

[@TheRange7]

None of that matters in this case, seriously. I'm no fan of his, but the way he is has no bearing in this trial. The only thing I see that matters is that he alone aimed a firearm at a person and pulled the trigger without safety checking that firearm. It was obviously a horrendous and tragic accident, but that doesn't change the facts as they are presented so far in the media. He's guilty

[@rule19org]

And you know him…how? Reality TV? 😂🤢

[@purplebutterfly5366]

Yes Alec Baldwin is known to be a jerk in the past. Whether Alec Baldwin is a lair or not, he is part responsible for the Rust Shooting because he was holding the gun and pulled or touched the trigger for it to go off and Hannah the Armourer was more responsible for the shooting too and in prison now.

[@rule19org]

@@l.t.8472 pullease! Don’t let MSM tell you what to believe. THINK

[@purplebutterfly5366]

@@rule19org If Alec Baldwin reality show is a go that would be stupid.

[@OanhSchlesinger]

The question- who put live bullets in the gun? Looks like it could have been a great movie.

[@judi6850]

I am hoping that the Family Of Halyna Hutchins Can Get Justice and will be able to rest in peace. Rest In Peace Halyna ❤❤❤

[@Practice_Kindness-1st]

So here's a thought: Manufacture prop guns to be made of some other type of material and oh, have them designed in such a way that there's absolutely NO WAY to enable live ammunition to fit them. In addition, for extra points, hire an awesome Sound Effects crew to make the bang-bangs sound really real. But what do I know...

[@johnnykeener3727]

Maybe his TDS will get him out of this mess!

[@carrollsanders9376]

How does Baldwin have Trump Dumb@ss Syndrome, I know it spreading 6 Supreme Court Justices just caught it.

[@vivelaresistance3239]

Nothing happened to Landis after the helicopter crash that killed two children. It won’t surprise me if no one is brought to book for this death.

[@archiemustachie3693]

Real guns and live ammunition on a movie set is ridiculous

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

A lot of shows and movies use fake guns now and add the effects in CGI.

[@xoneeleven]

Very good doc. Thank you for this.

[@ritayoung6040]

I m not the one to decide.

[@pommiebears]

Ok. How wonderful you are for not having any opinions at all.

[@TheFrogfeeder]

It’s crazy how court cases have commercials and trailers now…

[@WickedBiscuitOU812]

Now I can not make my words right 😂I’m a big man with a small phone but this channel refuses to let me comment or spell the words again

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

The guest on closing arguments spoke of Brandon Lee. Said a dummy in gun. But it was hunk of metal left behind from dummy. It was not cleaned and The nxt dummy pushed it out and into Brandon. Glad S/O else remembering him. 😢😢😢😢

[@emilyplacke6395]

You'd think after that something like this never should have happened 😢

[@yolandagofigure]

I just want to know who put the bullet in??. I pray the truth will be revealed. Praying 🙏🏻

[@Friendofstfrank]

Not sure but Sarah Zachary emptied the gun (on instructions from Seth Kenny) right after the shooting and discarded the bullets. She was granted total immunity and did not even get a tampering with evidence charge.

[@TheRange7]

@yolandagofigure, that's the 64 million dollar question right now. Even if they find out who it was, and I hope they will....Baldwin aimed a firearm at a human being and pulled the trigger. He's guilty

[@cariann2220]

@@yolandagofigure hannah gutierrez was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for loading the live round into the gun

[@cariann2220]

Hannah gutierrez reed

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

@@Friendofstfrank To be fair, that was Ackles' gun, not the Baldwin gun. Zachry is culpable but not for that.

[@nataliecassidy4298]

There never should have been any kind of live ammunition anywhere near this set they were working on! Why was it there to begin with!?from AKRON, OHIO

[@jrstrange123]

If there is a gun in your hand, you alone are responsible for that gun and the rounds in that gun. The armorer only assisted Baldwin in his responsibility.