COVID-19 New Variant XEC - Origin, Transmission, Symptoms, Severity (With COVID-19 Update)

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[@slackdee]

Moneypox is a more accurate explanation - in one word. 😀

[@anthonylucero6650]

Screw Your Liberal propaganda ya mooks😒

[@anthonychanchavac]

Update: I’m still alive without a shot. 😊

[@SlowBurn21]

Joe Biden said that the unvaccinated would all die during the winter of death. Very Mad Max of you to survive.

[@charlielamb4606]

Pureblood. make sure if you need blood, who you are getting it from. imo

[@bobthrasher8226]

It's a MIRACLE! (Me too...)

[@blinddog1212]

Amazingly, people who aren't alive can't post to let us know!

[@blinddog1212]

Survivorship bias at its finest.

[@veronicadavis9258]

It started a few days ago with sore throat, headache, and congested feeling with dry cough. Now it’s moved onto dizziness nausea and chills! Me and my hubby both got it. And we’re both completely exhausted. Which I felt as well when I first had Covid when it first came out.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thanks for sharing with the WBM community! We wish you both a speedy and full recovery!

[@TheCatFans]

Me too

[@TheCatFans]

I thought it was only me

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

Like a bad cold then

[@EleanorWeldon]

Hope you both feel better. Thank you for sharing your symptoms with us❤

[@steveholloway1963]

Thanks for the update but there really is no need i switched off my tv and it all went away

[@blinddog1212]

Not acknowledging reality is a great way to ensure it goes away (until it doesn't).

[@blinddog1212]

Also, LOL as if TV remotely talks about cvid these days.

[@josephdillon9698]

Last pandemic I just went to the beach and everyone there just acted like it was another day at the beach. The only difference was the girls were really happy to have a normal interaction like everything was ok and it was. I don’t like feeling sorry for myself so it’s pretty useless to get sick not much point in it

[@steveholloway1963]

I only started seeing people die after the pandemic was declared over and there still dropping like files

[@andremcamara3120]

I am from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I did receive 3 Pfizer shots because I wanted to travel and still caught Covid-19 during our trip to Mexico on Jan 2022. Just had runny nose. Girlfriend also caught Covid-19 but had sinuses and sore throat. Then last month Aug 2024, I tested positive, runny nose again only last 4 days. Girlfriend had Sinuses but tested negative. No more shots for me. Thanks for this video.

[@charlielamb4606]

goodbye sheep imo

[@andremcamara3120]

@@charlielamb4606 Charlie, Charlie, who is the lamb? charlielamb, your name says it all. If you cose follow the other non-vaxers, so be it but don't you dare try to tell others what to do or not do. Only way I could get out of Canada was to get vaccinated, but many decided to stay locked up. We all are free to do as we wish. Many of my friends over 60 years of age died of complication brought on by Covid-19. Some were vaccinated but the great majority were not. So what is your point?

[@blinddog1212]

See, I know several people who were all "covid is mild! I was fine after 1 or 2 infections", then they get infection 3+ and are not the same any more. Thinking about beyond the acute phase. This virus has a long tail and many long haulers from 2020 are trying to warn people (2003 sars survivors are in a similar position with long term complications)

[@christopherrobinson7541]

The vaccines do not prevent infection, but they do reduce the incidence of serious disease and death. The reason you had only mild disease was that you had been vaccinated. Having survived two bouts of COVID-19 will add to your acquired immunity. After being infected by the virus, there is an incubation period during which time the virus builds to components to make make more virus; during this period the host does not have symptoms. In parallel the adaptive arm of the immune system starts to be activated. The problem is that this process takes longer than the virus incubation period, so the host become ill. If the host has not been vaccinated (or had a previous infection) the time taken for the immune system to become fully activated is longer so the host has more serious disease or may die.

[@mdog6726]

Safe and effective 🤡

[@LexDiamonzz]

Thank you for the information and you might want to add the ADDITIONAL Severe Symptoms: - Light to Severe (Myocarditis) - Heart Soreness/Pain - Testicular Pain/Soreness or Warmth - Heartbeat Pausing/Skipped Beats/Long Pause with sudden hard heartbeat when pause re-starts (Spike Protein Interfering with Hearts Electrical Activity) - Sudden Loss of Balance while standing or walking - Severe Headache (Usually lasting 1 - 2 days) - Stomach discomfort (Gas etc) - Poorer Vision (Slight Blurriness) - Sleep Disorders (Insomnia) - Loss of Sexual Libido/weak erections/poor blood flow to penis - Inflammation of internal organs & heart, increased myocarditis with continuous heartbeat skipping tachycardia, when eating processed foods junk food etc. Remedies: - Vitamin C - Zinc - Ivermectin - Raw Juices (Green Juices) - Colloidal Silver - Black Seed Oil - NAC - Vitamin D3 (Sunlight or Injections) - Have low dose aspirin (81mg) always near you ** CAUTION** - DO NOT PERFORM CARDIO EXERCISE for 60 - 120 days post vaccination as you risk your chances of heart attack or heart pausing / irregular heart beats may occur. Careful with vaccinated children in school or any type of sports, they can suffer from cardiac arrest from C-Vax reactions. Good luck to all!

[@paulelkins425]

Great to see WBDR providing excellent C19 content again! Well, all your content is excellent but some of it's over my head. ;) Personally, I'm leaning only on wastewater data rather than test positivity, case counts or other measures for assessing the risk of infection. Hospitalization #'s can be leveraged in relation to WW to gauge if there might be an increase in severity. As for the XEC recombinant, I'm very skeptical that it will be able to outcompete the current variant champ, KP.3.1.1. I haven't seen XEC gain any significant ground on KP.3.1.1 in any population including Germany, France, or Italy. XEC hasn't even reached 1% prevalence in any of the states it's been identified in (CA, NJ, or VT). Currently it's looking like KP.3.1.1 or a close progeny will be the dominant variant this Winter. The question is how well does sera from the KP.2 vaccine neutralize the KP.3.1.1 variant? I haven't seen any studies or preprints showing this yet.

[@KBHeal]

If it was an mRna vaccine, protection will be bad and people will get infections easier due to an increase in IGG4 post mRna tech 😢😢😢

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Paul! Such a pleasure to hear from you! The channel has certainly transformed back to the original goal of general medical education with a side of public health content. But we are missing a bit of the public health content, so we are going to try and start re-integrating more videos on this stuff as things progress! As always, such a great contribution and we hope all is well!

[@christopherrobinson7541]

_"The question is how well does sera from the KP.2 vaccine neutralize the KP.3.1.1 variant?"_ Such studies are usually carried out in vitro and measure antibody titer. This can give a false impression as much of the protection is afforded by the T cells.

[@k2kam678]

Thanks for your dedication to educating!❤

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Always our pleasure! Thanks for checking out the video and for commenting!

[@spiritmiracle8032]

KZbin channel Archaix

[@ileanamurias922]

I know it doesn’t really matter but, how do you know which variant you have? They don’t tell you at hospital

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thanks for checking out the video and for commenting! There is no easy way for someone to know which variant they have. The sequencing to identify variants isn't done at normal hospitals and the tests for COVID don't typically sequence for variants.

[@kathybrady4033]

Basically it's a public health measure that is used to test a very small percentage of samples.

[@wingkeechan5329]

High probability that it's the variant that's causing the present infection wave

[@christopherrobinson7541]

@@kathybrady4033 At my large local teaching hospital everyone who is hospitalized with COVID-19 is tested and a sample is sent for sequencing. Fortunately this is done within the Edinburgh University Hospital Group. As the number hospitalized has fallen, all samples are sequenced.

[@mdog6726]

Election variant.

[@westfield90]

Everyone I know got Covid recently but everyone got over in within a few days. No intervention required unless of course you are elderly or immunosuppressed.

[@blinddog1212]

Covid suppresses immune systems. You need to think long term consequences, not the acute (typically mild) phase. Polio and HIV are quite mild in acute phase too. Look up sars1 survivors, as well; 20 years later from one infection, they have complications similar to long covid (and covid is sars2).

[@blinddog1212]

Ask everyone how they're doing in a few months.

[@Emmajaymusic]

What age is elderly?

[@BS-ge4ne]

​@blinddog1212 especially the chronically vaxxed

[@westfield90]

@@Emmajaymusic That is a very good question. I know my Dad who is exceptionally healthy at 95 and overcame Covid so easily, whereas other much younger people had severe issues. But I guess the medical community goes by "general" guidelines and they use the term "elderly" often without actually defining it.

[@kaiduponte4091]

I’ve missed your COVID updates sooooo much; mahalo for this update!

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We appreciate these kind words! We are going to aim for an update video a week. This may end up being that we miss a week here and there, but that is the goal! Either COVID or a different public health (news headlines covering) topic pending what is going on!

[@kaiduponte4091]

@@WhiteboardMedicine thank you so much! The way you explain things is so understandable.

[@sueyoung2115]

Since NIR ( near infrared), light from sunshine,is thought to influence the immunity, the peak of infection coincides with the fall season of shorter day length.

[@Xi_Pooh_Shill]

Just curious, how frequently does recombination happen in flu and cold viruses?

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

This is a good question and we actually don’t know the answer to it. We will have to do some research!

[@christopherrobinson7541]

The Flu virus changes by point mutation and by reassortment, and very rarely by recombination. The human coronaviruses that cause the common cold appear to mutate by point mutation and by recombination at the same rate as SARS-CoV-2. The other viruses that cause the common cold, change by point mutation and more frequently by recombination than SARS-CoV-2. Overall the the well established viruses have stabilized as most of the possible viable mutations have emerged and either been unsuccessful and disappeared, or have been incorporated into main clade of the virus.

[@chocojavachip]

How can it be that since the original omicron variant that each variant since has been even MORE contagious? If this continues, will it not be that if you are remotely near someone in passing that you would catch it? Then everyone would be sick all the time. Is this what the world is coming to?

[@JillKnapp]

Until we prioritize cleaner indoor air, yeah, probably.

[@BS-ge4ne]

​@@JillKnapplol scientific

[@safsult]

ppl has to stop testing ....

[@blinddog1212]

Yes.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

it's just propaganda, WAKE UP

[@JillKnapp]

Thanks for another great video. Sorry for the wackadoodles in the comments. (As an aside, I would love to see a video on how you create your videos! 😊)

[@blinddog1212]

You mean the people who are totally over it (despite being unable to stop themselves from commenting on cvd content)? Or the ones who collect infections like playing cards and keep telling everyone (and themselves) that they're totally fine and they totally don't seem to have cognitive issues? (PS. I see you replies and appreciate them -- much-needed reality checks!)

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Jill, great to hear from you! We hope all is well. Love that idea!

[@samuelbonacorsi2048]

“Everyone living their life and contributing to the sewage”, explains a lot about our species.

[@RUNDMC-555]

its not "more transmissible" but immune escape . what's worrying if mass vaccinations can effect the mutations, especially if it is worse for vaccinated

[@blinddog1212]

No, it's the ever-evolving virus itself that you need to worry about.

[@christopherrobinson7541]

The vaccines are not the driver for mutations. The driver is the the requirement for new subtypes to avoid the immunity acquired from pervious infections and to a small degree the vaccines. Essentially the virus is chasing its own tail.

[@Neil-Ren]

Can you please tell me which of the latest vaccines is likely to be most effective for the XEC variant? I know the new Pfizer and Moderna vaccines target the KP.2 strain, while the new Novavax targets the JN.1 variant. Would one of these vaccines be better than the other when it comes to XEC? (I'm sure they're all effective to some degree--I'm just wondering if Pfizer/Moderna or Novavax would have an advantage based on which strain they target.) Thanks!

[@mdog6726]

@@Neil-Ren wake up it’s all b.s.

[@SlowBurn21]

Ohio seems to be a pot luck of variants. I’m just happy they stopped sticking nicknames on all the variants.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Would have required to get real creative with names!

[@justincase3828]

That was good info. Thank you. My spouse & I are both in our 60's & I have several chronic illnesses that include COPD. My spouse is wheelchair bound with spina-befita. So, this is very helpful. Again, thank you. We use dial-a-ride so maybe it's mask time.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We are glad it was helpful information! Thanks for checking out the video and for commenting! We wish you both well!

[@k2kam678]

As a person diagnosed with celiac disease (asymptotic, if that makes a difference), am I considered immuno comprimised? I've had the original vaxs and a few boosters but none since Oct.'23. Got Covid over the summer, more symptoms that 1st time (Dec '22). Just don't want to end up on a vent! Your opinion regarding immune sensitivity with regard to celiac! Thanks in advance!

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We wish we could be helpful but we don’t offer medical advice and absolutely recommend you discussing this further with your physician. As an opinion that is absolutely not medical advice, celiac disease isn’t typically consider an immune compromising condition assuming a person doesn’t have severe disease that requires immunosuppressant medication

[@christopherrobinson7541]

I thought all recombinant subtypes began with X, such as XBB.1.1.

[@James-ke5sx]

Personally I just enjoy learning medicine. When I was young I remember going to the McGill University's bookstore and purchasing Harrison's principles of internal medicine, a CPS and a few other books to read. One thing that interested me was mind-altering drugs. Here in Montreal we had the Allen Memorial Institute where the did research on the effects of LSD plus other experiments. There was much rumor that this was funded by the CIA. And unfortunately the results were not always favorable.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thank you for sharing! We agree that medicine and science is a never ending field of interesting stuff!

[@LisaScher4u]

I'm here in the UK and my son and I currently have COVID.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thanks for checking out the video and for sharing. We wish you both quick and full recoveries!

[@freepluralism6652]

How long are you likely contagious with the current variations? My girlfriend tested positive today but was at work for 3 days already and her symptoms eased to the point of barely being existent.

[@blinddog1212]

People are staying positive way longer than the earlier variants; possibly having trouble clearing them. Unfortunate your g/f had to go to work positive. Was she able to wear a mask at least?

[@leonardofabbri7930]

stop testing please

[@leonardofabbri7930]

@@blinddog1212 have a diet, you are obese

[@freepluralism6652]

@@leonardofabbri7930 Yeah i guess you are right. Without the test she would have thought it was just a cold but now we got the trouble...

[@leonardofabbri7930]

@@freepluralism6652 the circus finished two years and half ago, wake up please

[@jasonhsu4711]

Possible winter surge? Is there ANY reason NOT to expect a big surge that peaks at the very end of December or the very beginning of January? As far as I can tell, it's 100% guaranteed to happen. (But this is one of the few times when I'd like to be proven wrong.)

[@blinddog1212]

There's going to be a definite winter surge, and the relief period from waves is getting shorter and shorter, with the summer 2024 surge being one of the worst ones yet.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

sure, like the summer surge for Barbie, Oppenheimer and Taylor Swift concerts 🤣

[@spiritmiracle8032]

KZbin channel Archaix

[@mamaslomba]

Please mention risk of Long CoVid next time to help spread awareness.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We appreciate that! For those interested, we do have a handful of Long COVID videos in our COVID-19 Playlist! kzbin.info/aero/PLf5bMa9_tvRjDwCpaD06b6fMOt1FEBki1&si=Awicjyq66xzs1wfg

[@janblackman6204]

Haven’t heard from you in a while

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We have been doing some focusing on general medical education but are going to start integrating more medical news and updates this fall/winter!

[@schmoab]

I contracted Covid the same day I got the Spikevax. In Kansas City, where it’s spreading rapidly.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thanks for sharing and we hope you’ve had a full recovery!

[@alexi2460]

First time for me mid Oct, It's awful. Lungs fill up on and off, body shivers and aches, swollen glands.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

Thanks for sharing and we wish you a full and speedy recovery!!

[@traianliviudanciu8665]

Can corelate increasing cryoglobuline IgM antibody level with Covid19 severity ?

[@bentheredonethat-lx6nh]

I walk around the house with a white lab coat, wearing my high heeled sneakers. I always wear my special head lamp gear, so I can inspect my wife up close and personal. I take my job seriously.

[@KBHeal]

Now, I had COVID 14 times, and a couple of times I had Influenza and COVID together, one time even Influenza A & B AND COVID - get heart issues every time a few days after symptoms, even when symptoms are mild, so it is fairly dangerous, making your statement wrong. You're missing the point of the Cytokine Storm following even a mild infection - please learn harder 🙏🙏🙏

[@dkhasel]

Geez, how many shots did you get?

[@blinddog1212]

@@dkhasel You ask that and discount the 14 infections from a sars virus? You're being disingenuous.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

take other 137 boosters and test it everyday to get the so called SUPER ULTRA MEGA LONG COVID and learn even more, bot

[@christopherrobinson7541]

There is significant variation in the individual response to infection with SARS-CoV-2. Some people are asymptomatic and have no symptoms, the majority with mild disease and some that suffer very badly and die. Not everyone who has COVID-19 suffers a Cytokine Storm and it is very unusual with those who only have mild disease.

[@micksaia2345]

I'm so bad sick 😫 not able to sleep almost 14 days and I'm positive

[@LisaScher4u]

Hard relate, wishing you a speedy recovery. It's a nasty one.

[@laurentmichel4006]

Magnesium and ashwagandha could help you sleep. That’s a very long time without some sleep.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

bot

[@PaulaManning-l1o]

Hope you feeling better I’m in uk 9 days and needed medical intervention due to underlying issues so know how you feel. And no above I’m no bot 🤣🤣 still struggling and receiving medication except not having dodgy jabs lol

[@KimKey09]

I think it's better to not call the symptoms "cold" symptoms. Even though they share symptoms, covid is worse than a cold. Many people will take that comment and run with it, even though you didn't fully equate it to a cold.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

That is absolutely reasonable. They definitely are distinctly different diseases with different risks. We appreciate that suggestion!

[@1Skorpia]

Cold symptoms are generally sinus related. It's easier to use a blanket statement than do a long list of everything related to sinus problems due to viruses.

[@Wales-forever]

Hubby went in hospital with diabetes complications, came home with COVID 😡

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We wish him a speedy and full recovery!

[@career5690]

I hope he gets better.

[@Wales-forever]

Thank you for your kind well wishes , things have settled down a bit now

[@career5690]

@@Wales-forever You’re welcome

[@pelicannurse7397]

What is the R not?

[@kathybrady4033]

R-naught is basically the idea that one sick person can give C19 to 1 healthy person. If it goes up then the infectivity is higher. That's my basic understanding.

[@pelicannurse7397]

@@kathybrady4033 thanks. I was looking for the r not of XEC.

[@christopherrobinson7541]

R0 is the replication number. It is the average number of people that are infected by one person. The series interval (or serial interval) is the time between generations. A combination of these factors gives an indication of how long it takes to the number infected to double. During the pandemic the doubling time was down to 3 days.

[@masterq2.033]

I have not seen a new variant video in a long time.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We are going to try to integrate more medical news videos each week or every other week to keep you all updated on things moving forward!

[@YoYoCoCo777]

Must be election coming 🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@slackdee]

@@WhiteboardMedicine Vari, vari, scaricants ! What's the flu called this year ?? 😀

[@blinddog1212]

@@slackdee You afraid of variants and pronouns?

[@blinddog1212]

@@YoYoCoCo777 lol, US politics doesn't even talk about cvd any more, but nice try.

[@lilithrising9713]

I am so sick with covid right now.

[@WhiteboardMedicine]

We wish you a full and speedy recovery!

[@jamesperez9810]

Let it go and move on, it is just like a flu, stop wasting your time

[@1Skorpia]

No. This is where where misinformation starts. Cold /flu and covid are all viruses that have different intensity. People don't die from a cold . But can from flu/covid. Athletes died from covid also healthcare workers that are exposed to alot of viruses and have a lil immunity.

[@marykincaid8348]

Not even worried about it at all

[@sueyoung2115]

The states indicated with the higher case numbers coincide with the places of higher numbers of new people.

[@UFC375]

They came up with a new covid 😅?

[@blinddog1212]

cvd brain rot. Can age the brain up to 20 years; seeing that a lot in the comments.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

@@blinddog1212 obese bot

[@mdog6726]

Dr. 🐀 Fauxy has been funded again!

[@JH-kd6hs]

Who really cares? Covid schmovid

[@qidla]

"who really cares?" Yikes, that's embarrassing

[@blinddog1212]

You cared enough to comment. cvd brain rot.

[@louiselincoln6557]

Yeah, that’s what DJT said.