The Times Crossword Friday Masterclass: Episode 24

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

Күн бұрын

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@benphelan88
@benphelan88 Жыл бұрын
“Including the famous ‘ngultrum’” Absolutely deadpan.
@apiyo_puzzles
@apiyo_puzzles Жыл бұрын
I think the deal with testator is: "one in box in case" = "the one in the coffin during a court case", that is, in a court case such as a disputed estate settlement the deceased would be referred to by the legal term testator. My time in philanthropic trust management has finally paid dividends on the crossword scene :)
@umchoyka
@umchoyka Жыл бұрын
I think it's simpler than that. You draw up a will "in case" you die. One in box would be the deceased
@apiyo_puzzles
@apiyo_puzzles Жыл бұрын
Hmm I dont think so. That doesn't really line up with how definition elements work.
@watchmakerful
@watchmakerful Жыл бұрын
Isn't this "above" clue from the Latin phrase "ab ovo" (literally "from the egg", i. e. from the very beginning) without the last letter?
@CrackingTheCryptic
@CrackingTheCryptic Жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Well done. Again my lack of a classical education lets me down :)
@watchmakerful
@watchmakerful Жыл бұрын
@@CrackingTheCryptic I even don't remember where I encountered this phrase...
@leppyr64
@leppyr64 Жыл бұрын
​@@CrackingTheCrypticShould pin this so it stays at the top.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Oh my - I looked it up - you’re right! Never heard of that! 🤔
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
@@CrackingTheCryptic your ability to solve these so quickly is amazing!!!
@KateFarr-c6x
@KateFarr-c6x Жыл бұрын
I found this really instructive to see how to approach a clue you can't do or can't explain. There are so many ways to reconsider it and I was really impressed with Simon's tenacity and different ways of thinking about it. This has given me more confidence to whittle away at a tricky clue rather than just giving up after an initial blank. It was just as valuable as having someone explain a quick solve.
@orzelgryf
@orzelgryf Жыл бұрын
I am proudly saying that after watching Simon I tried a crossword puzzle in my own language for the first time in my life - and I've got about half of the clues.
@archivist17
@archivist17 Жыл бұрын
Well done. What language is that?
@orzelgryf
@orzelgryf Жыл бұрын
@@archivist17 polish
@archivist17
@archivist17 Жыл бұрын
@@orzelgryf That must be a difficult language to compile or solve crosswords in!
@orzelgryf
@orzelgryf Жыл бұрын
@@archivist17 Well cryptic crosswords are totally different than in english. And of course I meant cryptic crossword, I solved some normal crosswords before 😅
@Alex_Meadows
@Alex_Meadows Жыл бұрын
Well done, Simon! On a related note, I was reading about The Listener crossword over the weekend, and it says that the current record-holder for the longest streak of correct solutions is one Simon Anthony, at 320. That's extraordinary.
@DJColdCutz_
@DJColdCutz_ Жыл бұрын
I sure hope the Novelist clue is “Hard Copy”. Maybe Hardy is the novelist and cop is the arresting incident. That would be my second ever clue solved by myself, and it’s only taken 24 episodes! Edit: I’m a genius!
@limegreenelevator
@limegreenelevator Жыл бұрын
Well done! You're firmly on your way to being engulfed in the world of cryptics. It's a joy to be part of!
@DrumsTheWord
@DrumsTheWord Жыл бұрын
This is was also the first one I ever worked out before Simon as well. I was very proud of myself! :)
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 Жыл бұрын
I have watched all of these Masterclass videos, and I think that this one was the hardest puzzle in a video. That 'above' was particularly odd, but there were several other very challenging ones. I don't solve these at all, so they are all impossible for me, of course! Don't be too hard on your brain, Simon! I am beyond impressed!!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Ditto to all of that!
@esotericVideos
@esotericVideos Жыл бұрын
You're not a very good lumberjack? Oh come on, Simon. We all know that you're a lumberjack and you're ok.
@johnciolfi5085
@johnciolfi5085 Жыл бұрын
This was an incredibly tricky puzzle. And boy, Simon's offhanded "I didn't study classical languages" was some brutal foreshadowing. I felt terrible watching him struggle with 6-Down (now, to be perfectly fair, the only reason I knew about the Latin phrase "ab ovo" is because it occasionally shows up in American crosswords, or sometimes just OVO). But if you've never heard the expression before, there's really no way you can glean it from the wordplay. Every once in a while, we'll all come across a puzzle where, even after we finish it, there's more a sense of frustration or bewilderment instead or joy or relief - it definitely seems like the former for Simon today (still, full marks for solving the puzzle despite all the hang-ups).
@PotmosHetoimos
@PotmosHetoimos Жыл бұрын
I think this is the hardest puzzle of the masterclass series so far. Loads of incredibly difficult and mind-warping wordplay. I got a couple before Simon (including alphabetical) but others I would have never gotten in a million years!
@spreekstem
@spreekstem Жыл бұрын
Love cryptic crossword-friday! Bought myself reading glasses yesterday and now I’m able to read the clues. Makes it even better. 😁
@archivist17
@archivist17 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your dogged perseverance and dedication! Quite a toughie this week.
@yummers2001
@yummers2001 Жыл бұрын
I'm only 10 minutes in. Hoping 4 down is ALPHABETICAL. I don't get many of these clues so it's a delight when I do
@limegreenelevator
@limegreenelevator Жыл бұрын
Great job!
@steveamsp
@steveamsp Жыл бұрын
I'm a day late, but I got that one just listening to him... had to pause the video for a moment to count the squares, but yeah, VERY fun to get a Cryptic clue on the first reading that eludes Simon for a while.
@janehewitt4157
@janehewitt4157 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another brilliant video - you are incredibly brave to do these live like this and show when you are struggling - I hope you know that this really helps us and certainly makes me feel better when I am finding clues difficult too!! Please don't stop making these videos - I am learning so much from you!
@DevilboyScooby
@DevilboyScooby Жыл бұрын
Lumberjack Simon...on Wednesdays do you go shopping, and have buttered scones for tea?
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful way to end July!! Thank you constantly Simon for this video! You are an amazing teacher.
@bryanroland9402
@bryanroland9402 Жыл бұрын
The Friday crossword video is always a treat. Not having the arcane knowledge needed to explain the "ab ovo" clue is entirely forgivable.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 Жыл бұрын
I don't mind your struggles Simon! These Friday 'cryptics' are wonderful.
@orosma868
@orosma868 Жыл бұрын
Favourite time of the week. I don't normally get to see this until much later but today I've got spare time to myself. An excellent way to spend a Friday afternoon! Thank you Simon and Mark for everything you do.
@Emmibean77
@Emmibean77 Жыл бұрын
I adore these videos! Look forward to them every Friday!
@cjcalogero69
@cjcalogero69 Жыл бұрын
Chuffed I got several answers before Simon for once! Hopes that I'm a teacher (re. singular and alphabetical) and French (re. "aphoriste" and "ouverture" = opening, giving me 6 down as "ab + ove(rture)" (as a piece of music).
@je_suis_le_canard
@je_suis_le_canard Жыл бұрын
Overture is possible, but I was thinking "overt".
@JohnLeeShaw
@JohnLeeShaw Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for doing this in such a complete and inspiring way! I really look forward to the next one 🙂 In the meantime, have a great weekend and all the best for next week!
@rockhopper_penguin
@rockhopper_penguin Жыл бұрын
Thanks once again Simon for a brilliant masterclass. That 6 Down was brutal. I did study Latin at school but had never heard of ab ovo.
@altreusplays
@altreusplays Жыл бұрын
When a clue is so clever it brings tears to your eyes when you solve it. More so when you get it before Simon! 😂
@Phog273
@Phog273 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching this shortly but I wonder: how many editions until this series is no longer a 'bonus' but promoted to a regular instalment! Always enjoy these, thank you
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Жыл бұрын
I love this Friday ritual. And I felt very clever when I figured out SPOOR almost at once. OK, that makes *one* clue, but it's a start. Simon did brilliantly as always -- c'mon, man, don't beat yourself up for being slow! 😺
@jamesmoriarty6782
@jamesmoriarty6782 Жыл бұрын
Well, I can barely solve the Guardian's Monday cryptic so i can't complain if Simon takes an hour over the week's hardest in The Times 😂. Great Video full of insight and hints. Thanks Simon.
@MultiNacnud
@MultiNacnud Жыл бұрын
Well solved (as usual), a good mix of clues today. Some as easy as ABC and some well above my head.
@vinyl1Earthlink
@vinyl1Earthlink Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I saw at once some of the ones that baffled Simon (hard copy, aphorist), but he saw some of the ones I really struggled with (aforesaid). This gave me a different set of crossing letters, and a totally different solving experience. I have found that if you leave the ones with all the checkers that you can't get, when you come back in a few minutes they will be obvious. If you want to know the parsing of above, I suggest you check Times for the Times.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 Жыл бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet, but perhaps the testator thing, could the "box" it is referring to be a coffin?
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what I was thinking.
@listey
@listey Жыл бұрын
🎶 That's D in the corner. That's D in the spotlight. Losing its religion. 🎶
@BigAsciiHappyStar
@BigAsciiHappyStar Жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting on the quadruple song (repeated letters don’t count)
@profregan6937
@profregan6937 Жыл бұрын
Despite having travelled by train from Turin at 7.36 am to Bath via Paris and London the first thing i did after pouring myself a glass of good pop was to watch in awe , again. Marvellous.
@TheFrogfather1
@TheFrogfather1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, a popcorn worthy crossword video! And Yay! I got 5 across straight away :)))
@davidotoole9328
@davidotoole9328 Жыл бұрын
What a tense finish. I'd looked up ab ovo about 15mins before.
@xavierkreiss8394
@xavierkreiss8394 Күн бұрын
Great stuff! Thank you. Could I as a favour? Once you've found a word, you make the clue almost invisible by colouring it in a kind of light yellow. Could you colour it in a way that could still be read?
@francesT5877
@francesT5877 Жыл бұрын
Amazed i got some of these before Simon but I couldn’t finish this on my own. I figured out “ab ovo” but only after I had given up. I know it from the Antrobus stories by Lawrence Durrell. Recommend them. I really appreciate these they are fun to watch even when I can’t do them.
@jammenjammenz4965
@jammenjammenz4965 Жыл бұрын
Simon, I thought that one across goats is a sports reference "Greatest Of All Time".
@jonhansen9622
@jonhansen9622 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos, even if I struggle mightily to solve the clues
@arthurcharest9061
@arthurcharest9061 Жыл бұрын
Still a great solve, thanks Simon!
@miriammartin175
@miriammartin175 Жыл бұрын
Watching this now from Ottawa, Canada's capital! :)
@jhonnyrock
@jhonnyrock Жыл бұрын
The "opening that's inconclusive" might be referring to the ov from overt which means open, but I'm not sure
@DaShikuXI
@DaShikuXI Жыл бұрын
I bet whoever made this puzzle felt like a genius coming up with that football clue.
@michaelobille5447
@michaelobille5447 Жыл бұрын
For testator, I was thinking just in case (in case) someone dies and is put in a coffin (one in box), there is a will for those they leave behind.
@arataya8706
@arataya8706 Жыл бұрын
Simon, you know how you enjoy the comments, especially when they’re kind? I hope you remember to make your comments kind to yourself too. You are an amazing solver and an amazing person. And you can have bad solving days and frustrations without changing the truth of those statements. Be kind to my para-social friend Simon, Simon!
@djcomidi
@djcomidi Жыл бұрын
for 6-down I was also thinking about "atone", equating the "superior position" with "at [position] one", but couldn't connect it with the "opening" clue.
@brenthoskisson6979
@brenthoskisson6979 Жыл бұрын
6 down - From the beginning = Ab ovo (a musical term) Take the o off and add the e = ABOVE.
@craftsmanwoodturner
@craftsmanwoodturner Жыл бұрын
I think there is another meaning of testator, being someone who gives testimony. Hence the reference to the (witness) box in (a court) case.
@pmclellan
@pmclellan Жыл бұрын
I have the Chambers dictionary on my phone, and if you look up ABOV? it gives just ABOVE and AB OVO. But apparently the one Simon has on his computer only has the first word.
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 Жыл бұрын
Will we ever get to see Maverick’s plane?
@robmcinroy480
@robmcinroy480 Жыл бұрын
I had five I couldn't do in this, and they were the last five that Simon put in, so I feel slightly vindicated! I got singular but couldn't work out why. I actually worked it out just before Simon.
@davidotoole9328
@davidotoole9328 Жыл бұрын
I biffed 8 down so just understanding it, really made me laugh.
@oldmoves
@oldmoves 11 ай бұрын
Old Latin: AB = Opening an typically Ova = egg, but with out the “a” on the end makes it inconclusive ; there is an “e” on the end, last letter of White. QED
@danielnapoleoni
@danielnapoleoni Жыл бұрын
Coming from the DA school I personally found this a bit too cheap to be rewarding, e.g. "body part" for foot from football (it's named after the body part), "mitre" for joint/cap (both named after the shape) ... Wondering what your thoughts are on this type of clue? Side note - i'm new to the channel, wondering if you're an Araucaria fan? Lots of absolutely fiendish puzzles in the back catalogue that would make for great content
@plusjeremy
@plusjeremy Жыл бұрын
At first I wanted “from opening” to be DA CAPO but that didn’t work. Fortunately when it came time, I remembered AB OVO from an earlier puzzle. I do think that those who excel at crosswords are those who excel at remembering random definitions and facts.
@DaShikuXI
@DaShikuXI Жыл бұрын
Looking at this puzzle, I came up with a clue: "one of a kind lust and greed for rupee" (8) I wonder if this would be valid in a puzzle.
@d4r4butler74
@d4r4butler74 Жыл бұрын
Ok, no I didn't get the Above and why (well, the Why anyway) but the Comments section is wonderful again. But I got Alphabetical right off the start, Spoor was not instant, but I got it before Simon. Really felt for Simon with "short" being anagramed... and that Above...
@michaelpdawson
@michaelpdawson Жыл бұрын
I thought the clue for SWINDLER was quite poor. The last four words of the clue didn't really do anything. I was pleased to get quite a few answers before Simon did, although I still could never have finished the whole puzzle on my own. This one did not require a lot of specifically British knowledge, which I often find a stumbling block.
@thezanycat
@thezanycat Жыл бұрын
Was the wordplay for KALEIDOSCOPE explained?
@richardclegg8027
@richardclegg8027 Жыл бұрын
It is not really wordplay just a cryptic definition. (I did not love that one.)
@sebastienlecoq3956
@sebastienlecoq3956 Жыл бұрын
4 down, or how a child of 10 could have been faster that a world champ... (where does autumn come before summer, death before life, and a fool before a king) I loved those tricky definition that abused 'common knowledge', especially as I wondered if it was allowed, or considered bad manner. Can we get to know the snitch of this one.
@yadt
@yadt Жыл бұрын
Strangely, I found "singular" the easiest to solve, with no checking letters. Probably because it's one of the least cryptic of the clues! Also hard copy.
@konchr86
@konchr86 Жыл бұрын
Singular is the only clue in the last years, that I found and couls explain before Simon. Possible the last one.
@williambarnes3868
@williambarnes3868 Жыл бұрын
Testator==witness in court. Aphorist= AP+ anagram. Ab OVO from latin for 'from the egg' meaning from the start or opening.
@damdamdamdumdidum
@damdamdamdumdidum Жыл бұрын
5:11 - Is the other exception the pope?
@lundhlundh
@lundhlundh Жыл бұрын
or the setter
@SomeRandomGuyOnYouTube
@SomeRandomGuyOnYouTube Жыл бұрын
Isn't the "box" in TESTATOR the coffin?
@QIElf
@QIElf Жыл бұрын
That was my reading too - a testator will be in a box (coffin) during the reading of the will (case).
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 Жыл бұрын
ah rip! you beat me to it
@Carpetf
@Carpetf Жыл бұрын
and the person checking the will would be an attestator
@richardclegg8027
@richardclegg8027 Жыл бұрын
Yes. This precisely. In the legal case of the settlement of the will the testator is in a box.
@charliejoseph6465
@charliejoseph6465 Жыл бұрын
why does 20d have the word "briefly" in it?
@VonBlade
@VonBlade 3 ай бұрын
5:14 Just interrupting to hope 4 down is Alphabetical. _edit_ 30:58 That's my Tuesday made and it's only 17 minutes past midnight.
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK Жыл бұрын
I don’t do well on these but I was screaming ”alphabetical” immediately
@michaelmatter1222
@michaelmatter1222 Жыл бұрын
I got the alphabetical answer almost immediately 🙂
@SudokuConCarabet
@SudokuConCarabet Жыл бұрын
Is testator = “someone who testifies”?
@sebastienlecoq3956
@sebastienlecoq3956 Жыл бұрын
1 hour+ video. Let's get comfy
@glum_hippo
@glum_hippo Жыл бұрын
The Latin phrase "ab ovo" maybe?
@glum_hippo
@glum_hippo Жыл бұрын
I see someone's already mentioned this. The whole phrase, though, is 'ab ovo usque ad malam' which literally means "from eggs to apples", a modern version of which is 'soup to nuts', meaning "covering every detail of something"
@michaelmarsh8237
@michaelmarsh8237 Жыл бұрын
@@glum_hippo Apparently, "ab ovo" and "ab ovo usque ad malam" have different origins. The former (according to Wikipedia) relates to the birth of Helen from an egg laid by Leda.
@nightwishlover8913
@nightwishlover8913 Жыл бұрын
Got 17 down from the French (as did someone else) fairly easily, but 1 across was a real doozy...didn't like that one.
@Raven-Creations
@Raven-Creations Жыл бұрын
I got 9A straight away. Spoor was easy, once I thought about what game trackers might use. I got aphorist from the checking letters before reading the clue, so parsing the clue was a doddle. The setter really got into your head on this one. When you had S, T, and O, why did you not consider that "short" also has those letters? You only have H and R to place. If it was Jason's puzzle, and he watched this, I bet he was laughing like a drain after your earlier conversation. I'd love to know if it is his, and his reaction to your solve. Please let us know in next Friday's crossword video if you find out. Football was a classy clue, as was goldfish bowl. Shipmates was a bit sneaky, but a nice clue - the question mark was certainly necessary. You really got fixated on smiths, even after working out you only had one I. You didn't seem to notice the question mark, which is usually an indicator of a questionable or quirky definition. Alphabetical was really nice misdirection, especially as the checking letters also hinted at an -ican ending which would fit nicely with a religious order. Narrow also was great misdirection. Singular was also a quality clue, sheep being both a singular and plural noun, but goats only being plural. It was fun use of the quirkiness of the English language. I got this as soon as the checking letters were in place. You'd have been better not thinking about the clue, and just finding a word to fit. Testator was brilliant, but cruelly fiendish. A to R for "every letter in answer" was hilarious word play. The definition of the legal term for someone in a coffin in an inheritance case was also wonderfully cryptic. I couldn't get the wordplay for above either. Some searching revealed "ab ovo" meaning from the beginning. I think anyone could be forgiven for not knowing that. Don't be too hard on yourself (not for that clue, at least). You can beat yourself up over not getting some of the other clues, but you were completely in the setter's thrall. There is indeed a mitre joint. It's the sort you get on picture frames.
@rickdavis7944
@rickdavis7944 Жыл бұрын
Ab ovo Latin for from opening or again, minus o inconclusive:-)
@Astervista
@Astervista Жыл бұрын
This crossword is evil, more than the usual ones. My “classic” crossword mind kept coming up with the correct answers way before Simon but I kept telling myself they couldn’t be right because there was no wordplay or cryptic definition I could see, just a straight up direct definition. Very very naughty… I now question how are these direct definitions allowed, I would have thought they were not
@vpr0
@vpr0 Жыл бұрын
I hope you don't mind if I don't agree that using a dictionary is cheating for me personally. I'm not a native speaker and I'm able to solve big portions of quick cryptics if I use everything I can. Too bad this is pretty much impossible in my language
@MoraleBattalion
@MoraleBattalion Жыл бұрын
I was sure that it was "afore": from opening (F, the opening of "from"), a word for inclusiveness (or), and e as the final letter of white
@maribelfarnsworth4565
@maribelfarnsworth4565 11 ай бұрын
Your lack of Latin struck again!
@bobstreet2491
@bobstreet2491 Жыл бұрын
4d is possibly the easiest clue ever.
@kurohone
@kurohone Жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder sometimes if the self-flaggelation that Simon puts himself through drives away more people from cryptics than they want to attract. The point of playing a game is to enjoy yourself; Simon puts such absurdly strict restrictions on himself that casual players think they're somehow 'doing it wrong'.
@erickehr4475
@erickehr4475 Жыл бұрын
It’s infuriating when you don’t follow your own advice. 15 down ends with a question mark. And as you keep saying, everything in a clue is there for a reason. If you’d asked yourself why that was there, you’d have realised it was a “tricky” definition and got it straight away.
@nelliekeating440
@nelliekeating440 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was "ALONE" as in, you are alone in a superior position, and it is from the inconclusive opening of a story "A long time ago..."
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