Familiar, yet completely different - Minisforum MS-A1 Mini Workstation

[@jothain]

Please add power consumption figures of tested hardware. I couldn't care less about manufacturer given figures, but what is actually pulled from wall on idle and load.

[@JokingChickenn]

Agreed!

[@mredizon00]

Absolutley

[@scytob]

Nice little workstation. I do wish vendors started marking USB-C ports with the right USB labeling to say what it does and doesn't support.

[@PaperReaper]

Thats the problem the USB forum caused with its very lax feature guidelines unfortunately

[@JasonCrosen]

8:18 that discord ding got me.

[@NexGen-3D]

Me too lol

[@Seriessify]

Me too, had to double check :D

[@pyroslev]

Made me look at my second screen and be VERY confused as Discord was not running.

[@TooLazyToFail]

Yep.

[@Spreadie]

My MS-A1 arrived last week. Unfortunately, the DEG1 Oculink dock that I ordered at the same time still hasn't shipped. Demand must be high, I guess. I went for the barebones kit because there was a killer deal on the 8700G in the UK at £230 shipped, I already had 32GB of DDR5 RAM and I have plenty of m.2 SSDs. One thing I've found so far is the TPM 2.0 chip isn't detected by the Windows 11 installer, despite it being enabled in the BIOS - a quick cast around the interwebs suggests I am not the only one to see this, although it does seem to be a quirk on the barebones unit only. Minisforum support have, so far, suggested I clean and re-seat the m.2 drive. Super helpful. I set it up on Win 10 for the moment and it's a pretty impressive little box - really looking forward to playing with the DEG1 dock.

[@Will-sc3hw]

Tpm req can be removed using tools

[@Spreadie]

@@Will-sc3hw Yes, I know, but you're missing the point.

[@bropella]

I love the content that Jeff brings to the table. Love his podcast as well! Great combination of beer and tech. Great work!

[@skipbreakfast]

Amazing that you uploaded this today. This morning I was looking at where to buy this thing and not finding it in stock.

[@DS-pk4eh]

18:05 Actually, you can "cram in" 16 cores chip in there, just run it at 65w (known as eco mode) or get the latest 9950x. With 2x32Gb of RAM and some nice SSD, this is a beast.

[@Will-sc3hw]

A bit inaccurate still 😉 a dual CCD chip will run at 100w while single CCD will run at only 65w as per their official specs. A 7900x 12c24t will run at 50w per CCD which is plenty. 7950x is a bit too much for 100w

[@jessegillett1305]

He is correct though, it does run a full 2 CCDs or 16 cores at 65 watts. It just doesn’t clock higher.

[@DS-pk4eh]

@@jessegillett1305 That is correct. Also, 1 thread or 1 core operation will run at full speed hitting 5+Ghz. Only multi-thread will clock lower. Some tech reviewers did run some tests to compare 7950x in 65w versus normal mode, and it is not that big of the loss. So...

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

8:18 that feels evil

[@ruojautuma1]

I had to pause and rewind to make sure..

[@FanaticalRK]

@@ruojautuma1 same

[@_Jonny_]

Just sent my MS-A1 back to Minisforum, as I've been running it as a proxmox host for 3 weeks but it's randomly restarting on me. Running it with Ryzen 7700, 96GB RAM, 2x SN850X NVMe. Not getting any logs or kernel panic errors, when it happens, so really hard to diagnose the actual fault. Support offered to replace it, so taken them up on the offer, if that doesn't fix it, could be my NVMe drives (never happened with those drives in a M920Q), or something that needs fixing with a BIOS update. I've seen the MS-01 has needed a few bios updates for people to get theirs stable, so could be the same case here. I collected it from my colocation and sent it back this weekend, will post back with an update if someones interested in the issue I'm getting. One thing I did notice, you said the second NVMe slot on the back wasn't PCIe 4.0 but PCIe 3.0. I'm pretty sure I saw the link speed of that slot showing as 4.0x4 when I did `lspci` and also the manual confirms my findings but the US store product page is misleading/incorrect, they've mixed up the bottom and top sides, but it does explicitly say the M.2/U.2 slot is 4.0x4. Wonder if we will ever see OCuLink to SFP+ adapters, rather than needing to convert it to a PCI-E slot, then put a SFP+ card in it. Currently don't need 10gbit with mine, but that would make for a nice upgrade in the distant future.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

The level of innovation of (relatively small company) chinese/taiwan mini PCs is mindblowing, no conventional OEM gives a flying about any of these features, they have been makign the same identical office SFF designs for a decade with minor changes

[@AzNcRzY85]

@6:30 Sorry to say this here aswell but you are also wrong. 2nd Tech KZbinr who says you have to remove more than 2 screws to access the system. You actually just need to remove the 2 screws closest to back and use the removal tool. This is also stated in the quick installation guide. I agree that the chassis button of the MS-01 is by far better. I have both systems.

[@LeoS-58]

I’ve contacted Minisforum because of conflicting information on the M.2 NVME SSD slots. On their website they provide a link (“More MS-A1 support”) showing the characteristics of the M.2 NVME slots depend on the CPU used. For Raphael CPUs (7000 series) and the Granite Ridge CPUs (9000 series) this is: one PCIe3.0x4 slot, one PCIe4.0x1 slot (single lane) and two PCIe4.0x4 slots (both four lanes). For Phoenix CPU’s (8000 series, including the Ryzen 7 8700G they supply) one slot is PCIe3.0x4, one slot is PCIe4.0x1 (single lane), one is PCIe4.0x2 (two lanes!) and only one is PCIe4.0x4 (four lanes). Please note that the information in the Manual is incorrect.

[@TechnoTim]

Great review! As soon as I saw the specs for this, I thought exactly the same - this is an actual workstation system vs the 01 which seemed to be more of a homelab-like system

[@JokingChickenn]

Techno Tim always a win! Are you also gonna test this one out?

[@TechnoTim]

@@JokingChickenn Jeff did such a great job I am not sure what I can add 😅

[@jeremybarber2837]

Please do test a handheld PC with the DIY e-GPU dock. Also, I would love to see if you can throw a R9-7900 into this mini-PC (12C/24T 65W) and if it would do any better in R23. That barebones is very very tempting.

[@nadtz]

I'm so sad they dropped the SFP+ ports from this unit and why no PCIE gen 4 for the U.2? This could have been a really awesome little machine for homelabbers who want 10GbE, I really hope they do another unit without the oculink and bring back the SFP+

[@zeighy]

if they added the SFP+ ports and the other stuff, they might as well just label it as another MS-01 variant. If the specs are too close, they might as well be the same product.

[@nadtz]

@@zeighy For use as a hypervisor (which is what a decent chunk of people use the MS-01 for) not having to deal with P and E cores removes various work arounds to get hybrid core CPU's working properly. When the MS-01 came out there were a fair number of people asking for an AM4/5 version so I just find it odd they took away what made the system so worth it for a lot of homelabbers. Long story short that's exactly what a fair number of people wanted, an MS-01 just with an AMD chip.

[@ryanseipp6944]

​@@nadtz Exactly this. All I wanted was to not have to deal with P/E core stuff and I'd have 3 by now running a little homelab cluster.

[@PaperReaper]

Pcie limitations i think? AMD gimps pcie lanes of their APU chips constantly and its really annoying

[@nadtz]

@@PaperReaper According to the minisforum webpage the 7950X/7900X are supported (at 100w though I'd want to test that) so limiting the PCIE for the mobile chips is kind of a fail. At least 1 10GbE SFP+ interface and Gen 4 PCIE U.2 is well within spec if you drop oculink which is a dead spec anyway. You would also have to drop a few of the NVME connectors to do so but dropping PCIE 4x 1 and 3 x4 probably isn't a hard choice for a lot of homelabbers who want 10GbE.

[@criostasis]

This trend of mini pc's with oculink and gpu docks is baffling. It makes more sense to me to just build a mini itx system that will take up the same, if not less space on your desk at around the same total volume, maybe a little more. When it comes to price you can build the mini itx system for around the same price or slightly higher and get better performance. What makes sense is more laptops need to come with oculink to add the external gfx power.

[@fujinshu]

Oculink 4i will be dead when TB5 comes out. Maybe oculink 8i could still survive?

[@Will-sc3hw]

No it will not be dead. Tb5 still has more overhead. If anything pcie gen 5 will make occulink 4i twice as fast

[@ewenchan1239]

It's a pity that the MS-A1 dropped the dual 10 GbE SFP+ ports and the internal PCIe 4.0 x8 slot otherwise that would've been a killer combo.

[@heybravo23]

I don't think it would be possible with that CPU/MB unless they reduced the m.2 slots.

[@Will-sc3hw]

I miss the pcie slot but tbh most people won't use sfp in a homelab.

[@AlfaPro1337]

@@heybravo23 It's possible if they used 7th gen or 9th gen Ryzen, instead of 8th gen Ryzen. 8th gen Ryzen uses PCIE 4.0, and lacks 4 PCIE lanes.

[@heybravo23]

@@AlfaPro1337 they would still need to change the motherboard too. But they could have done it for sure.

[@AlfaPro1337]

@@heybravo23 8th gen Ryzen is AM5? 7-9th are AM5? What mobo redesigned?

[@Will-sc3hw]

One thing you never mention . It's can run a dual CCD cpu at 100w TDP. I'm running a 7900x in mine with 96GB ram

[@Mephisto2022]

Actually in my unit I am able to adjust the TDP. Tried up to 125W but VRMs are getting above 100c

[@Will-sc3hw]

@@Mephisto2022 did you have to enable something to unlock 125w?

[@Mephisto2022]

​@@Will-sc3hw I used the following settings: MS-A1 BIOS 1.03 Setup - Advanced - AMD CBS - SMU Common Options - System Configuration: Auto TjMax: 80 SmartSift Control: Manual SmartSift Enable: Auto APU Only SPPT Limit: 125000 Sustained PowerLimit: 125000 Fast PPT Limit: 125000 Slow PPT Limit: 125000 the numbers represent mW that's why there are so huge.

[@Will-sc3hw]

@@Mephisto2022 thanks this helps. I know the psu is capable. If I can upgrade the vrm cooling it's possible to have 125w sustained be safe.

[@Spreadie]

@@Mephisto2022 Can I ask where you found a BIOS update? There's nothing listed on their site in the BIOS section. I wish they'd open things up a bit, like offering higher memory clocks.

[@denvera1g1]

I love this form factor, what i really want to see from AMD for AM5 is an EPYC 4965 32 core Zen5C, or like an EPYC version of Strix with increased cache and more PCIe lanes(so both are on par with the 9700x I know the APU is pie-in-the-sky thinking, but the 32 core is doable with parts available today.

[@gdropbox5844]

Bought one. Returning it. 7900X and 96GB. Love everything about it except obvious flaws like no 10 gig or video over USBC despite advertising that it can do video over USBC. Hoping that mine is just broken and the next one will work.

[@abrinsodhi6033]

Thank you for your always honest opinion on everything! Especially the beer and coffee.

[@rafaskonieczny7166]

Removing just 2 screws (the nearest to the rear) is enough to slide out the mobo. ;)

[@popcorny007]

This seems quite relevant, would love if Jeff could confirm

[@h4xor1701]

another great mini-server candidate for proxmox clusters

[@Workbench3]

I'm happy with my A1. At first I was skeptical because of the missing network connection, but thanks to Oculink I was able to "install" a Tesla and use it for AI tests. You can also use the Oculink for a network card with SFP+ etc.

[@Mike-xy4jz]

introducing the A1-a10-b9999 not to be confused with the older A1-a10-b998! why is every product manager like that??

[@pyroslev]

A deep, deep review needed on that dock. If we can find a way to use that through USB-C, they just dropped one of the most budget friendly eGPU enclosures to date.

[@ATGEnki]

I'd like to see NVME drives start dropping to x1 lanes and OCULink to pick up that slack. Most people don't need gigabytes of data transfer per second for most tasks, but allowing for faster bi-directional data transfer to a GPU would be killer.

[@Will-sc3hw]

Gen4x4 is 64 gbps. Plenty for almost any gpu. The only way up is 8i occulink or wait for gen5 gpus

[@ATGEnki]

@@Will-sc3hw And if you have all your monitors plugged into the mini pc instead of the gpu? I have a 7900XTX and the idle power is horrendous, so I'd rather not have it powered up unless I'm using it.

[@Will-sc3hw]

​@@ATGEnkiI truly don't understand what your are saying. What does occulink and pcie lanes have to do with display outs? As tested by other reviewers idle power draw is great on this

[@bjackman16502]

Would love to see the Oculink dock set up with an HBA and running as a NAS.

[@JokingChickenn]

Yes! Would be nice for a home nas!

[@TooLazyToFail]

I recently replaced a Razer Chroma X USB4 eGPU enclosure with that Minisforum GPU dock for my 2023 GPD Win Max 2. I couldn't be happier, it's awesome.

[@JordanEE]

You got the NVME link speeds there transposed. The two NVME's on the bottom are both PCI-E 4X4, then one on top is PCI-E Gen 3X4 and the other is PCI-E Gen 4X1

[@greenprotag]

I am sad that, with a limit of PCIEx4, we dont see more external GPU tests with the RX6400/6500. These GPUs are already limited to PCIE 4.0x4 and likely would not leave much if anything on the table.

[@b127_1]

There wouldn't really be a point. RX 6500xt is only slightly faster than the 8700g. RX 6400 would lose. They really are that slow.

[@TayschrennSedai]

Thanks for the review.

[@randomgc]

A deeper breakdown on your cold brew would be welcome. :)

[@TAGMedia7]

During the ad I was expecting the boss to hurl you out the window like that one meme.

[@CraftComputing]

That's a great idea for a future ad.

[@Owenzzz777]

No actual PCIe slot is a shame. If Arrow Lake can do better on power efficiency side, the successor of O1 can be a good option

[@DJSammy69.]

Nice! Nice! Minisforum rocks another winner package.

[@jttech44]

the GPU dock option is really, really cool honestly. They finally made one that makes sense. I do wonder if... maybe you could have *more* occulink ports and then aggregate them together so you'd be able to run a real 16x slot...

[@mordacain3293]

Just a note, you actually only need to remove the back two screws and use the included tool (looks like keyboard switch puller) to pull the chassis out. I've tested mine with an 8600G as well as a 7950X3D. With the DEG 1 it was a pretty capable machine. However, the noise is abhorrent IMO and the lack of any tuning options in the BIOS is just a killer. I think mine will eventually wind up as a replacement for my wife's desktop with a local storage spaces RAID pool of nvme storage.

[@luca73nat]

Hi i have the ms-a1 and the deg1 paired with my rx6900xt and i'm waiting the ryzen 7950x to change the 8700g. For me is a good combo and all work great, from gaming to normal usage. The only thing that the 8700g struggle to do is video eding, but was not made for this kind ok task and with thw 7950x the problem will be soved. gaming as i mention is not a problem with my combo, diablo 4 , BG3 and even black mith work great on 3440X1440 no scaling. One tips, to open the Ms-A1 you only need to screw out the 2 screw near the back of the mini pc the use the clip that minisforum give in the package to pull out the chassie. the only down side is , if you use raphael architecture insead of phoenix you loose usb4 capability wich become a standard usb-c 3.2

[@lsdowdle]

Depends on what you are encoding. That 780m iGPU is great for av1.

[@brianmorgan7207]

Only two screws on the bottom need to be removed, not eight.

[@CraftComputing]

Still more than 0.

[@pratikpramanik7782]

ASRock needs to release an AM5 DeskMeet!

[@DigitalJedi]

I still wish these would be tall enough for a dual-slot card. The selection of modern low-profile single-slot cards is rather limited, with just the RX6400, RTX A400, and ARC A310 being the only real choices right now.

[@vitoswat]

And the case is maybe convinient but completely unmodable. I'd like to see the revision with the possibility to add spacer for dual slot cards.

[@DigitalJedi]

@@vitoswat If somebody can get me the dimensions for how that top piece attaches, I'm willing to design something myself.

[@stephenwong9723]

You said can't install a 16-core CPU on a MS-A1, but no, I'm running a 7950X CPU on a MS-A1. Yes, there is still limit of 65W, but it still runs. And, with 96GB of RAM, I run Proxmox on it, it's a good home server for me.

[@TheChemisch]

Whats the power draw from the outlet at idle? I would be very interested to know.

[@awesomearizona-dino]

LOL - Did anyone notice the Microshaft Winblows box?

[@adampetkus]

Yes! Hilarious. I was browsing comments in hopes to find someone else noticed that as well. Glad I'm not alone. 😂😂😂

[@brianb6653]

I've looked at all the videos and posts i can find, what 1TB drive is actually installed if you buy it? Best i can find is that it's Kingston. But what model ?

[@whitebeartigtig]

I wonder how well this will do with a 9700X, from what I can tell it would work because that is a 65W CPU. Would be awesome with the eGPU dock. Overall, this really isn't a bad deal and I'll be picking one up for sure.

[@SynMediaCanada]

Using a large TV or projector to do the backgrounds for the ad rather than a green screen and croma key? Aside from the scrolling line it def gives a much better result.

[@oscarcharliezulu]

It’s amazing but i think a small SFF would be a bit neater as it will hold a gpu and the psu.

[@bokami3445]

10:28 -> At this point you should have noted the BIOS/UEFI version/date, so we can determine if the Intel patch has been applied.

[@acubley]

In the ad at the beginning, Blue Shirt Jeff be sounding like J. Jonah Jameson. (Hopefully Blue Shirt Jeff and Red Shirt Jeff never team up to rule the world).

[@SkillNuggets]

awesome as always

[@matasa7463]

I would like to see you attempt to mod the A1 to see if you could potentially outperform the stock build.

[@jamestiller]

I completely missed out on the axe brother, when could I expect any version to be back in stock?

[@CraftComputing]

We're working on designing the PoE version right now, and hope to have an announcement in the next couple months on availability. The units that sold were our Beta run, and won't be made again. There will be another WiFi version early next year though.

[@jamestiller]

@@CraftComputing 10-4, I appreciate the info. I would even be interested in a paid pre-release beta for the PoE version, not looking for a handout just love the idea you put together and would love to help in any way.

[@sourcilavise3788]

Mmmh, difficult on this one, aside from recent intel subjects, I think I might still prefer the intel one. Having the choice to put a little dedicated gpu (like an nvidia one for example) and the built-in SFP+ 10G adapters is a plus for me. Well, for the AMD one, if 8700G is enough for your loads it's ok but yeah the PCIE lanes distribution is weird... Couldn't they just remove the 4.0*1 ssd and put an SFP+ 10G port instead ? The point is to have a little portable system no ? So having an external full sized GPU is... counter productive ? No ? In my job I already see the USB-C ports suffering with the docking stations... I hope the occulink cable is more resilient.

[@mansharker8]

5:38 is a good point, I wish amd cards were more supported in programs that use encoding / transcoding..... Blue Iris "does" have gpu acceleration but its unstable when encoding the main streams or even sub streams of cameras, its best left on only for transcoding the bvr file format to mp4, or another codec in blue iris.

[@Psikeomega]

I have that same micro$haft winblows box on my shelf at home. I bought it at electronics boutique some odd 25 or 30 years ago.

[@CraftComputing]

Bought mine at Software Etc 😂

[@Psikeomega]

@@CraftComputing I saw that, and smiled as I walked down memory lane and then suddenly stopped as I threw my back out.

[@elliotthanford1328]

Casually rembers the 1u tyan server from a couple weeks ago has an occulink connector on it...

[@AV-th6kn]

Jeff, please do a Proxmox Ryzen igpu passthrough tutorial to VM or LXC for hw transcoding.

[@mortengreenhermansen4489]

Will this support ECC ram? So looking for small machines where the calculations can actually be trusted.

[@tmasaitis]

Love your videos!!!

[@richardnpaul_mob]

Gaming as it currently is will be affected by the limited bandwidth of Gen4 x4 oculink connections but I'm wondering how work graphs might impact this in the future

[@Will-sc3hw]

You can almost max out a 4070 super with gen 4x4 so no. Most gpus will be fine with 4i occulink as long as its gen4

[@romayojr]

16:21 yes, please.

[@techaddressed]

I'm wondering how well the 65W Ryzen 7900 non-X would work in this system.

[@franzpleurmann2585]

On the product page of the ms-a1 it says USB4 for the USB-C port. Is this correct?

[@erwilliams]

missed opportunity for the Epyc 4004?

[@UntouchedWagons]

Ethernet and USB ports are still upside down for some reason. It's not as big of a deal that the USB ports are upside down but unplugging network cables can be a pain.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

since it's not bolted to the desk it's not going to be a huge issue, just raise the whole pc a bit so you can reach the clip to disengage the network cable

[@Th3_Normie]

Outstanding. Been waiting for someone to compare these two head-to-head.

[@declanmcardle]

Do Optane U.2 fit inside the MS-A1? They don't in the MS-01.

[@EmperorTerran]

Can you test jellyfin amd igpu vs intel igpu perfromance, difficulty setup... I feel like we dont have data on this and jellyfin supports it, we just dunno how well. Maybe checking AV1 encoder on new ryzens in some way too.

[@frankwong9486]

One bad thing is amd overcharged their am5 apu , or mini oc with them just too cheap If using oculink egpu, it sounds great to pair with something like 7600/7800 or x3D thing 🤔

[@timheacox7565]

Any idea if the Oculink port can do external SSD array connectivity?

[@wisechan1904]

nice video! why not try a 7800x3d on it with an egpu like a 4090 a see how much limit can oculink introduce?

[@Will-sc3hw]

Realistically you don't want more than a 4070 super.

[@classifiedclassified9657]

Do we have any information if it supports the EPYC 4004 series CPUs?

[@94norbi94]

Isn't the iris Xe simply integrated arc alchemist GPU? Same as 780M is an RDNA 3 iGPU?

[@CraftComputing]

Iris Xe is not based on Alchemist

[@mattiaippolito1625]

Can I use the ocliink and the dock with and external sfp+ NIC?

[@bakakafka4428]

Would it have killed Minisforum to create a case instead of an open dock with all the cables flying around? It would have added little extra cost.

[@CraftComputing]

You underestimate just how expensive low-volume metal enclosures can be

[@bakakafka4428]

@@CraftComputing Maybe. But looking back at the old thunderbolt cases, this is way overpriced. Not even comes with a PSU.

[@phils744]

To everyone, I enjoy craft, I would like feedback on the best database to use, running on any os.

[@milescarter7803]

But, but. Lenovo Tiny, Dell Micro, HP Mini exist? I'm reaaally struggling to discern how this is better than a Lenovo with the dual M.2 slots, and the full x16 (electrical x8), and there is an aftermarket riser breaking out another m.2 slot. So it looks like parity on the M.2 front. But much much much much cheaper? Not to mention discrete GPU support?. I'd like to see this up against the P360(?) SFF system that can fit a Dual slot Discrete GPU (Ala 4060 LP). Maybe even a price/performance breakdown with a 3060 LP. This doesn't exist in a vacuum. I'll check the price and see how it is though. I can't fault them for cooling, dual fans is nice.

[@XiaOmegaX]

"you can't cram a 16 core cpu in this thing" hold my beer, 7950 non-X or 7950X eco mode

[@boombox8675]

you know it i know it why theres a full desktop socket: epyc 4004

[@albrio5749]

does it supports a 9950X? will can the power be adjusted from BIOS?

[@Will-sc3hw]

Up to 100w for dual CCD chips. You don't want to put a 16 core on this. Get a 12 core 7900x

[@armchannel4192]

Has anyone tried buying the barebone and install their own CPU? Specifically I want to see if it supports like 7800X3D or even 9000 series CPUs.

[@theopendoor3716]

no comment on memery bus speed? dual channel memory sticks?

[@CraftComputing]

I did mention it. 5200 Dual Channel.

[@theopendoor3716]

@@CraftComputing Thanks for clarification. Great vid btw thank you. :)

[@a.g8517]

please test vga on desktop too

[@TheKillerview]

Isn’t the usb c actually usb4?

[@mredizon00]

The only thing I hate about the Intel variant is its 13th gen CPU. That is a deal breaker for me.

[@aydngulgun8936]

what would be the best cpu to put here?

[@Will-sc3hw]

7900x

[@jessegillett1305]

“You can’t go cramming a 16 core chip inside this thing”. Actually you can. The board limits the power to 65 watts.

[@Will-sc3hw]

Correction: it limits dual CCD chip to 100W

[@heybravo23]

Seems like a lot of people would prefer to have AMD with 10gbe but less m.2 slots.

[@Space_Reptile]

Did reviewers forget that cinebench r24 exists?

[@kettusnuhveli]

R24 is just inferior to its older two siblings when comparing CPUs since your score differences will be in single digits.

[@inflatablemicrowave8187]

Why tf didn't they just plop a ryzen (desktop or mobile) chip into the ms 01? I don't understand. Even then, they absolutely should have made that oculink connector be the 8x variant... And no 2x 10gbe ports? What in the world were they thinking here???

[@hemisatellite6168]

I have been watching your videos and im going to be build a new pc in the future and my old pc I would like to make a sever out of. I would like to have a dayz server on it for me and a few friends to connect to to play on and some other games that can be connected to 24/7. I also like to generate AI images so any way to use the vr ram from the video card(s) for that? I have a 1950x cpu, mother board ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E GAMING , 112gb memory and a 3080ti card 12gb vr. thanks for the great videos.

[@DS-pk4eh]

For your server need, I would use Docker. There are probably already a docker images for the servers you want to use. For AI, there are several ready made desktop solution that could help like LM Studio pr similiar PS: We have very similar setup

[@spinkey4842]

why do companies take steps backwards?????

[@Will-sc3hw]

It's not a step backwards. Amd just never added enough pcie lanes to consumer AM5. I'd rather have 4 nvme slots than sfp. If you need sfp the MS-01 is your system. 13th gen is not bad

[@TheEditorify]

No engineer worked hard for this product should be ashamed of him/herself. There might be many reasons why they did not want to go for the same design on the chassis. Why would they be ashamed? That's very disrespectful.

[@bhgemini]

Could you please install AMD's version of AMUSE AI 2.0 and see if you also keep getting IPU driver not installed. It is on mine but even after reinstalls of the app it still thinks it isn't there from my 8700g.

[@bhgemini]

Also. So weird that you needed to take your MS-A1 completely apart. I just had to use the two closer screws on the bottom and use the included switch puller to pull the innards out of the shell.

[@elalemanpaisa]

Vultr.. I do, and so do my customers, live in Colombia.. Stop lying :P And @Minisforum unless you offer ECC do not call it Workstation.

[@flcnfghtr]

it's unfortunately the MS-01 minus everything that made the MS-01 interesting as a premium homelab. No SFP+, no dual USB4 40gbps, no PCIe4 U.2, etc.

[@Dankasaurus6]

again? *sigh*

[@CraftComputing]

You knew what this was when you subscribed 😉

[@keyem4504]

Microshaft Winblows?😂

[@CraftComputing]

It's a classic