Crafting a KTM Killer - Episode 3: Teething Troubles

[@ashsowman]

That didn’t go to plan 🙈 We’ll get the build back on track next episode! In the meantime though, anyone keen to see more Husky vs. WR content?

[@lachiechappell5833]

I’d be pleased to see husky vs wr that would be sick

[@Scotland29]

I was going to say that’s a weird sounding YZ 250

[@RorydriftmansxrsilviaWilkinson]

awesome new vids ash sowman films bro. love watching your youtube channel buddyy on dirt bikes. or dirt bike soo awesome too seeing your next vids on the next episode the lake station farm out off nelson nz new zealand is loveley bush an soo beautiful too anyone keen too see more husky vs wr content yuppp big time brother merry christmas buddy in the meantime i well been ripping around on my dirt bike over christmas an new years i still got too buying my new motocross gears off fox mx 22 gear an leatt mx 22 gears for my christmas list too me. etc.

[@aussiebikes7011]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@quinnwarman5139]

Up grade your starter to a 410 watt now save you all the trouble as you will eventually need want it and have spear bushes for the cases to hold crown wheel ect they wear fast and are crucial for good starting 😉

[@c2protect]

That's a perfect statement you made. "it's never funny when someone's bike breaks down; even if it is a KTM". I say that all the time when my friends bikes breaks down. But I am still the one that wants to fix it for them.

[@nicky3182]

Awesome can't wait to see how this turns out!

[@anthonys9754]

The company that produces Yamaha’s engines just put out a concept of a 300 two stroke YZ engine with electric start. Fingers crossed.

[@liamwilson1948]

Yeah hope they do because that would a nice touch or extra power and a electric start. Yamaha should start making wr300f's with some changes to the 250s

[@anthonys9754]

Oh, and it had fuel injection!

[@liamwilson1948]

@@anthonys9754 I don't get fuel injection,my dad says it's a big deal and sht but all it does is allow you to control the flow and mixture better and I doesn't flood when it's on its side.

[@anthonys9754]

@@liamwilson1948 it’s not always a big deal with day to day riding but it also keeps the bike running right when changing elevation and temperature. With a carb, you need to change your jetting to make up for it which can be a pain on the trail.

[@liamwilson1948]

@@anthonys9754 yeah but most the trail ride down In the south island don't get to high in elevation so it's not a problem lol

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

I had a 1999 WR 400 that I put about 3000 kms on over the last 4 years on very rocky gnarly trails including several competitive enduros, all without electric start. It has a compression release on the camshaft that makes kick starting very easy. The only dead bikes we come across on the trail all seem to be orange in colour for some reason. I now have a 2009 and a 2010 WR 450, and I will say I do like the magic button. A YZ 250X with a Rekluse clutch is on my acquisition list this coming spring but I’ll take a pass on the E start kit. Too much added weight and complexity. I have a couple of challenging enduros on my bucket list and at 63 I’m finding lugging the big girls through the woods all the time can be a bit of a pain in the arse. Great video! Thanks for the effort! And remember. Orange is just a colour, BLUE is a state of mind. Cheers, from North Eastern Ontario Canada.

[@chadrides914]

💯 “blue is a state of mind” lol I like that.

[@BigWiesell]

Was he using the starter motor to propel the bike through the last tree section?

[@TwistedTriggerEnduro]

Little log dead wood can make trails hundreds of times harder. Much respect to your effort and riding. Great video, thanks for posting. 😃👍

[@chadrides914]

Yooo glad to see the upload 🤘 you guys have huge sacks for crossing thst river! And fyi; my friends 2021 300 husky lost all compression at 58hrs.

[@ym3781]

probably he can't maintain 2 stroke

[@chadrides914]

He’s owned 4 different bikes over the years. It wasn’t his fault. Dealer said the new tpi 300 two strokes need top ends every 20 to 30 hours per ktm manual.

[@ym3781]

@@chadrides914 in poland on tpi we make 80-120 hrs without any sort of problems on that big engine like 300 is nothing, my cousin made 110 hrs on 85 and changed piston to new and it is still ripping. Personally i think it depends what type if oil are you using and how you ride

[@chadrides914]

@@ym3781 well he used Motorex. We believe the pump wasn’t delivering the proper amount of fuel since new. Trashed the piston and cylinder. Was not the owners fault. Ktm did nothing to help.

[@ym3781]

@@chadrides914 yea i heard about those pump issues but never had any contact with bike that had it broken

[@yo-mx9re]

Respect you stayed up working llate Ash. You have awesome content, you will succeed my friend!

[@tbgtbg6311]

Just buy a 2022 YZ250X, add a Smart Carb for elevation and call it a day. The New KYB suspension is unreal, and the cable clutch is smooth and very responsive. Other than electric start you don't need to do much else to compete with a KTM.

[@ZmanAdventurez88]

All I wanna do is watch your channel. Absolute amazing content. Just top quality stuff here

[@travismcgarry]

Just found your channel and been binge watching. Just bought a YZ250x after 20yrs of not riding. Feeling like a teenager again

[@MyNameIsYeet]

Big man pulled through for us!

[@CorkyStuntsTV]

Can't wait to see how this build ends up. I really appreciate the effort you put into these videos also, I'm hooked!

[@blakeboroughs329]

I’m so keen for this show it’s mad

[@tyvonnn1797]

i've been waiting for this.

[@alexpanciuk5126]

Same

[@Dom34007]

Always looking forward to videos from Ash

[@fernacticus]

That seems very odd to me. When you fitted the stator plate I did notice that it was fully wound. That means that it is intended to charge the battery. I think some parts were missing from the kit. An electric start kit without the ability to charge the battery would be useless unless the battery was huge!

[@SuperNomad14]

They make the that kit for the YZ125 exactly like this - with no charging feature. They say a good battery can start the bike up to 200 times. I do not believe that. But at the end of the day these kits are sold for bikes that have a kick start anyways. The E-start hence is more like a back-up feature for tricky situations or such where the rider is very exhausted.

[@WINGNUT]

love the professional "movie" feel in your videos

[@justinpeterson8754]

You’re a great storyteller. Keep up the good work.

[@aitosuomalainen7283]

It's gonna cost more to make a KTM killer than to buy a KTM at this point, but great series dude!

[@helderneves91]

I'm really enjoying this series!

[@Mac181]

Dose it interfere with bump starting it and can u still use the kick start ?

[@karlitosway4791]

Nice. Better bring a folding saw and tug straps on the next ride.

[@benhovenduro1385]

Stumbled across your channel couple days ago, love it. Got a husky 21 250, it takes some beating for me. Had alot of bikes, 250 tpi for me is a great bike. Merry Xmas from the UK

[@DirtZen]

Awesome content 👍✌

[@mtdvmedia7817]

Those new wr250f’s are some of the best enduro bikes on the market

[@liamwilson1948]

They've been some of the best enduro bikes on the market since like 2010 lol.

[@GILESY1973]

Love these videos 👍🏻

[@SpeedyDealer]

That WR is my dream bike

[@samuelford]

250 2 strokes are so easy to kick, i dunno why anyone would want to fuck about. The best mod for the Yam would be a hydraulic clutch!

[@craigdavies8099]

I'm getting older, my right knee is rooted and have a titanium spine. E.start just means I can ride longer.

[@rezkidgamingyt4725]

Lol the second half of the video is exactly the kind of riding we have in the bush where I am

[@charlespaterson6915]

it would be awesome if you could do a headlight kit for it

[@craigdavies8099]

It's very easy to do and not too expensive, just have to remember to put a correctly rated fuse inline. A Spal 100mm radiator fan makes everything better, I also have brake lights on my CR500, safety first!!! Merry Christmas

[@WujoCaZa]

Give her a yz250x governor springs and washers from 98yz. Bought for my wr250z back in the day and it was a game changer

[@endurohuntfish8865]

yo 300 kit and wr gearbox ????? i hear the wr gearbox goes into a yz250

[@mmaaddict78]

Those downed trees are why I never leave home without my folding saw.

[@wirth315]

A Rekluse clutch would solve all your stalling issues. Game changer for your level of skill. Prove me wrong. :-)

[@shadowlm315]

That WR sounds so choked up

[@wirth315]

A simple multi meter would tell volts at the battery when the bike is running to determine if it's charging, as well as measure the volts on the battery. A battery tender lead is a must have so that you don't have to remove the seat to charge. A maintainer will keep that battery 100% between rides. Lithium battery tender $40 US. :-)

[@nickbishop6174]

good vid mate

[@lewisevans4655]

Ur allowed to ride through those woods but I’m not even aloud on a forestry track

[@bryden_smith]

That’s because your electric start failed doesn’t mean the bike isn’t working properly I have a KTM my electric start hasn’t worked for two years I just literally need to fix it but I never got around to it because it starts first kick every time that doesn’t make it a KTM killer whatsoever it’s the transmission gearbox the 18 inch tire and the kickstand head l flywheels the way that it’s geared Suspension set up etc. etc.

[@muntedmason]

Im keen

[@Hart2HartAdventures]

Good vid 👍🏼

[@stoplogicmotorsports]

I'm really thinking about a YZ250X to add to my wr250r. Magic button is a huge plus.

[@barakcollins1506]

This will be a very nice bike when your done

[@corthir]

What do you use for editing your films?

[@monkeybarmonkeyman]

Still thinking for the type of riding you are doing nowadays, lower gearing would help. More time on the pegs too, maybe? Butt-planted trail riding never worked well for me. 🙂

[@yzrippin]

No that's where the 300 CC's and clutch control come into play you still need the wide ratio transmission for hair scrambling

[@motobrostv1761]

You should get on the gas s bit more when you ride because I’ve got a yz250 and I almost never stall it in the woods great video though and good luck with the build

[@highlandcycles]

I really hope that is the last problem you have man. Cheers

[@richarddobbs1986]

Would a radius X be better than electric start? After all it's about not stalling ??0

[@richarddobbs1986]

All you do is kick it once. Job done

[@jacobmcintyrefilms8982]

Merry Christmas to u

[@damolux3388]

When you alluded to the ktm having problems later in the vid........my money was on it breaking its poxy subframe on those logs 🤣

[@tomdoingfunstuff]

Elite videos

[@jackjohnston1019]

Hey mate where are these trails, are they in Nelson

[@CiLyXx]

Can we get a recap of the dr?

[@scottc4433]

Why would you stop riding the yz just because of electric start?

[@rhysgrant4390]

If you put a light bar on the yz it would go anywhere where 😂😂

[@elijahmacneil8422]

That shaft broke because he was using the starter with the bike in gear to get over trees and obstacles which is a big NO only use it to start the bike with the clutch in or in neutral

[@tbgtbg6311]

Nice to know..... Glad to not have electric start.

[@brysonroberts9075]

Why did you not let it warm up?

[@1991enduro]

Buzzing mate just jumped in tha bath scrolling through found something decent 👌 😀 change the flywheel weight mate I've seen others doing this to soften the power dowb

[@mattDBTNZ]

Does your ‘21 wr250 struggle to start in gear some times? I find mine needs neutral to start 90% of the time.

[@ashsowman]

It used to, I've got a way of fixing it that I'll share in my full review. Shouldn't be far away now

[@mattDBTNZ]

@@ashsowman assume it’s a little bit of clutch drag, or needs a stronger battery?

[@ashsowman]

It's a fueling issue not a cranking issue. You need your dealer to put some different settings in the ecu that you can't do yourself with the app

[@mattDBTNZ]

@@ashsowman nice, looking forward to the video & cheers for the reply

[@breconhorse3777]

How much would get me a good yz 250 as im looking to upgrade

[@villesoinine9634]

I dunno where you live but at least in finland they are like 3k at most for a decent bike

[@nils0n239]

i ride a ktm exc 250f and i love it i have been a yamaha guy my whole life

[@stevestuart-smith533]

Sorry to say but good luck with getting help from Panthera. Mine has given me nothing but hassle. My KTM’s have been way more reliable.

[@craigdavies8099]

What problems are you having? My CR500 starter has been reliable since I installed it in 2018, initial set up was a bit of a pain though.

[@stevestuart-smith533]

Two starters have failed, they don’t seem to like hard enduro when you get them hot. I suspect it’s something to do with clutch drag as it gets hotter. Also had the stator pick up small bits off the starter gears as they wear in and that courses ignition to miss fire. I covered the gears in grease to capture the fragments after it happened twice on long rides. I machined the sprag centre down to give it more clearance which helped. Waiting on a 3rd 2013 ktm starter now all which I have paid for because they don’t take any responsibility for anything. I want it to work so will keep persisting till I iron all the bugs out. Definitely not a KTM Killer. Fortunately for me I have a KTM to ride in between fixing my YZ.

[@michaelwendler5589]

@@stevestuart-smith533 I have the Panthera on my YZ325x, and the starter motor itself is absolute Chinese junk! Do yourself a favor and either buy an OEM 410w ktm starter, or an authentic Arrow 410w starter motor. DB electric starters will work for awhile, but they're junk as well.

[@craigdavies8099]

@@stevestuart-smith533 Sorry to hear that Steve. In a days trail riding I would only hit the starter button 6-10 times so nothing like hard enduro use. As far as I can tell my starter is just a generic chinese model. My 2018 kit only came with the mechanical bits, no wiring loom, relay, button, battery or battery box. Ash was spoilt with a full kit! I'm a sparky so the wiring was easy enough. From past experience I wanted a flush mount switch for the starter button so it couldn't be easily bumped while the engine is already running so brought cool switches from china, I made billet switch housings and they have been faultless!! Do you have a cooling fan? It's a must IMHO. I have a thermstat in the radiator and a manual overide switch on the bars for the fan so I can turn it on before I even get to the big muddy hill. I brought off ebay, oversized radiators NZ$150ish, a 100mm spal fan for about $100 it is the fan that KTM use, the t.stat also ebay $10, a chinese tap for the t.stat thread $25, weld a 6-10mm thick flat piece of aluminium to bottom tank of left radiator so can tap the thread for t.stat $40. I made mine big enough to also fit a temp sensor for the trailtech vapour gauge. Say goodbye to overheating. I don't like the in hose sensor things as it's just another potential leak. A constant breeze from a fan onto the starter must help along with lower engine temps. Good luck mate and Merry Christmas.

[@everynownthen4353]

thanks brett...i mean kynan. been watching FOTC lots sorry

[@andiehyde3714]

So, in essence, electric start two strokes suck balls. I have for some years trying to keep the system on my Husaberg TE300 going. Upgraded motor redesigned bendix more power battery Slavens conversion. The whole lot. Nothing works, it is just a crap solution to something that isn't really a problem. A well serviced 2 banger will be running before your foot even reaches the kickstarter stop.

[@garylandman3891]

First , love your Yamaha I have one to keep up the good work

[@marshalldunrud4522]

Can someone explain to me why 2 strokes are better for enduro? i am a motocross rider not an enduro rider and for mx 2 and 4 strokes are just based on preference. it seems a 4t would be better for enduro because they have a much lower powerband. idk tho.

[@Original_Major]

they are both equal to each their own

[@niklas7468]

2 strokes are best for technical enduro because they don’t stall as much, also they have a lot of low end.

[@marshalldunrud4522]

Ty both but my 85 has no power down low but my 250f does.🤨

[@marshalldunrud4522]

Ur right about the stalling thing tho

[@marshalldunrud4522]

@@niklas7468 hu

[@adamnorton9701]

You need to look up KTM 24 volt starter that system looks the same as the old KTM starter motor so if you put it to 24-volt it will work all the time not a problem

[@Shooter_Mcgavin93]

Yz250 was born better then a Ktm

[@b33mx78]

🤙🤙

[@lessshgooo6949]

Star wars is awesome 😎

[@minifireant2232]

And thats when you spent more money on the Yamaha, when you could of just bought the KTM and stopped the troubles. Although no matter what brand you get, they all have problems.

[@rezkidgamingyt4725]

I do not like crossing rivers a specially when you can’t see the bottom the Wr air box intake is right there in front where all that water can just be sucked in to the engine

[@nzmarkb8713]

If you want a KTM killer, just go and buy a Beta 😉 Told ya not to waste your money on an e start 🤔

[@mercuryforlife969]

big bore?

[@nicolafleitas]

15:04 tho

[@bjooppeg]

Thats why I'm driving a GAS GAS

[@timvanpopering370]

Get a Sherco !!!

[@claudioteixeira5917]

Yamaha + start+smart carb/electron= more than 10 k of the husky/ktm, still no digital computer,lights,license plates ,injection or smaller tank!

[@thedougster3998]

No matter how hard you try, in the end, it still wont be a KTM.

[@antoninovlogs2085]

Viva las 🏍 ktm

[@rimawihone]

Harry Potters WAND lol

[@kevingaraway6494]

Yamaha all ready made a ktm killer it's a wr

[@njmxjunkie3128]

YOU NEED A WEIGHTED FLYWHEEL

[@craigdavies8099]

The flywheel in my kit was considerably heavier than stock and I hated it. Went to aluminium clutch plates instead of steel, aluminium sprocket not steel, Titanium bolts for sprockets, disk and clutch. Also tubeless rear made a slight decrease in rotating mass. Got my snap back!! Best gains was the clutch plates being so close to the crank, steels pack was something like 476grams and the aluminium plates were 176grams. Sprocket also was noticable. But to each his own, merry xmas.

[@njmxjunkie3128]

@@craigdavies8099 I don’t ride on a track, I’m making my 1998 into a woods weapon. Some enduro riding, single track, pit riding and lots of sandy pine barren trails. I want a heavy flywheel possibly a steel clutch basket instead depending how the flywheel works. I don’t care so much about making the bike as fast as possible more so care about making a tough as nails reliable build that can handle the slow stuff and still rip those long fire roads

[@ericbrandt829]

@@njmxjunkie3128 .....Believe me the electric starter with the one way sprag made of steel and the steel starter gear add plenty of flywheel mass onto the 250X I think probably gearing is in need of changing.

[@markbaxter8188]

I don't think your the only one having issues with thatbe start kit.

[@tannerash5091]

This is messed up lmao

[@patrik2083]

Its not about the bike its about rider

[@howardwoods342]

Stick with my YZ250X.

[@antoninovlogs2085]

😃😀😃😀🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@jakegentle7853]

Yamaha is already a ktm killer they just dont show it

[@justinnewcombe1145]

KTM little sister

[@justinnewcombe1145]

What's going on

[@budindimitrov4047]

Няма такова нещо като КТМ убиец.

[@readytoracektm1071]

achete une ktm tu verra pas de panne comme sur ta yamaha

[@lukasventer4108]

Think you should rather buy a ktm

[@eventerry9093]

Sure.... and kids can pick there gender lol. Blues4boys.

[@readytoracektm1071]

yamaha bad dirbike