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[@user-cf9ng8li9d]

Thanks to all those who stopped and took care of my breakaway buddy and I. Thanks to all those who offered stronger pain meds than ibuprofen ;) We take care of each other here in the Bay. I was the only one with a broken clavicle (no surgery) and a 3" deep puncture in my side that took longer to heal than the bone. Really bummed about this freak accident, but glad my friend didn't break his bike nor his bones. Chain was fine, but it must have slipped on the worn-out chainring. Pack was racing for 4th, solo PenVelo off the front, the break was for 2nd&3rd (and they weren't gonna get us with 150m to go and a couple of seconds in hand muah)

[@m.ncycles]

Glad you're good. I've had Slipped Chain before and it's the scariest thing ever in a sprint. :( Before that, I never used to clean my bike. Now I clean the drivetrain twice a month. bruhhhh, hope to see you out there soon!

[@kidsafe]

Yeah Sergei, I don't think Timmy and Jeff had any chance of catching you. They had already been sprinting for 150 meters and you and Brian hadn't even started sprinting yet. See you back out there soon.

[@Timtimzi]

Timmy here. Glad you and Brian are ok. ... So was it the Roval wheels that exploded on you?

[@kidsafe]

@@Timtimzi Memory is hazy, but I think he was riding Zipps that day and I would tend to agree with his worn chainring assessment. e: nm, it was Brian H with the giant white Zipp logos.

[@user-cf9ng8li9d]

@@Timtimzi it was Roval clx32. Front has two breaks in the rim. We both heard a loud pop, but at this pt it’s just easier to go with the chain slip. I also think that this crash occurred in the last 150m and there were a few hard jumps prior to that crash where all was ok. 3 days earlier I raced San Ardo and all was also fine there with the chain slip and I sprinted there as well. Can’t prove nothing, so chain slip it is

[@h20s8804]

The race ready checklist is a good idea. There are some things I would go deeper on. I worked most of my younger life as a mechanic in shops and doing all kinds of different racing. Checking things for torque spec is great, but most of us don't have those tools (even though you can get little consumer models for pretty cheap now). You can simply stand in front of the bike with the wheel between your legs and grab the bars at the hoods. Give a firm push left and right, then downward, then push the levers themselves inward. If anything moves too easily, you know you've got an issue. Do this with your saddle too--this will often expose that 'tick' or 'creak' you were hearing but didn't know where it was coming from. Also, wheels should get more than a visual spin. Spin them and watch them go thru the caliper brake, or the fork and frame, to look for trueness, this will show you if something's really wrong--but to look deeper, do this: with both hands, go through the whole wheel and grab each pair of parallel spokes, on each side of the wheel, 1 pair in each hand and give a decent squeeze, and rotate on to the next pairs until you've gone around the whole wheel. Wheelbuiders do this as they assemble wheels to settle the spoke heads in the hub, nipples, and the nipples into the rims as they build up tension in the wheel. A healthy wheel will have no change when you do this, and remain the same when you're done. This little 'stress test' just done with your bare hands can tell you if the wheel is too soft, if there's too much tension, if there's an imbalance in the spoke tension, you'll immediately find a broken spoke, or expose a problem you didn't know about. 'Back in the day' a big race came to town and a racer in the women's pro field came in to the shop to have her bike looked at for something minor. When I did the wheel check and gave a little squeeze on the spokes of her rear wheel, things immediately pinged and popped and several of the the alloy nipples came apart, breaking at the top of the nipple. Spokes were too short. We fixed her bike up and she could race with confidence the next day. The other piece of note here (especially here in this crash in the video!) in the 'drivetrain' part is to also inspect the chain carefully--modern chains are so strong--each link is mechanically pressed/riveted/connected and they rarely come apart unless one of these connections is damaged, or if the connection with the specified pin or quick link is done incorrectly. Spin the crankset slowly backward and look carefully at each link and you might see one that looks different--that would be your culprit. Find the connector pin, or the quick link, and make sure it looks right. Lastly, in the drivetrain, this is a big one. With the bike in the repair stand, shift to the smallest cog on the bottom of the cluster, grasp the parallelogram of the rear derailleur so that you can actuate the derailleur by physically pushing the der with your hand as you spin the pedals. Pull it toward the bottom of the cluster to test the lower limit screw adjustment. It should not skip or shift off the cluster. Now push the parallelogram of the derailleur inward with your thumb to move the chain up the cluster to the top cog next to the spokes. Give it a decent push against the upper limit as you spin the crankset. It should not skip over the cog and the derailleur cage should not contact the spokes. Simply looking at the vertical alignment of the derailleur in the bike can reveal if a bump or crash has bent your rear hanger. If it's bent the limits may be ineffective. I can't tell you how many times this test has revealed problems with limit screw adjustments or screwed up hangers in bikes. I'm sure many of you have been in races where you get to that steepest climb and suddenly there's a rider who just ripped the rear derailleur off their bike when they shifted it right into the spokes of the rear wheel and powered forward with it stuck in there... Or heard another rider's bike going 'tink tink tink tink tink tink' as the spokes brushed by contacting the rear der cage in the top cog (it's about to happen!) As an old crit speicalist from the midwest, I love your content. Thanks much!

[@tomruth9487]

I used to race road and track back in the old days, I started when there were just 5 speed rear clusters and of course thicker chains. I never used a quick link until more recently. I also never broke a chain. Sure, there were maybe a couple training rides were someone broke a chain and we had to push them home but it was rare. It sort of makes me wonder about the new thinner chains and quick links when I hear of a broken chain in a race. It just seems funny.

[@h20s8804]

@@tomruth9487 I'm 50+ and only broke a chain 1x, and by 'broke' I mean a link plate came apart from the pin, bent away and things came apart. I think most 'broken' chains these days are from the connecting pin, or the quick link, not installed properly, or connected properly. If you push a factory set pin out of a modern chain, and simply push it back in, the chain is not properly connected there and will definitely come apart.

[@tomruth9487]

@@h20s8804 What you say makes sense and I didn't know you can't push a factory set pin back in on newer chains and expect it to work, thanks for the info.

[@kidsafe]

Luckily, the only chain I've ever snapped was during a sprint effort on the indoor trainer. It was a fairly new chain and it broke at a random link plate/pin joint. I'll chalk it up to a manufacturing defect. The chain was a YBN SLA-H11.

[@h20s8804]

@@tomruth9487 Most, but not all, new chains are put together like this. Think of them like a closed system, connected only at the two ends with a different pin (they have a guide that you snap off, and little raised shoulders that hold the side plates) or a 2 piece link that snaps in place. If you connect the old way.. that spot might get you home, but that's about it.

[@idosu2835]

You guys need to make stickers! I'd slap them on everything I own or don't

[@ralphmartinez9919]

Or don’t ?! 😂😂😂

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Fanboy alert!!🚨🚨🚨

[@EntropyOCD]

This is undoubtedly the most concise and to the point real world racing channel for beginners and those competing.

[@OliVer-oh6zv]

You know the list is complete when the Silca tire pressure calculator is included :D thank you Jeff!

[@donnazar]

you guys are awesome. such sportsmanship. ❤❤

[@gabeshutt8665]

I mean its like 20 people with no stakes in a weekly "race" of course nobody is going to try to "win" when there is a crash lol

[@kidsafe]

Dante's always got a smile on his face. Just happy to be riding bikes at noon on a Tuesday. And because it's Dante...riding TNR in Morgan Hill later that evening.

[@tylerf1674]

Whenever I see a bike crash at high speed it brings me back to something a guy I knew said: - It is like jumping out of a car in a school zone in nothing more than spandex and a helmet

[@westsidewheelmen]

I know a similar quote, about jumping out of a car at 35mph in your pajamas, but it doesn't reference a school zone. Can you expand on the school zone thing?

[@ItsSkyhawk]

@@westsidewheelmen I’m guessing school zone hints at the ‘limited’ speed the crashes happen at, although they can happen at higher than school zone speeds as they did in this video

[@tylerf1674]

@@westsidewheelmen school zones in Canada are 40 kmh (25mph).It was just something someone following his blog in 2010 could relate to

[@johnflynn4923]

Delighted to support the channel Jeff - just ordered Bear Banner navy tee - good luck with the merch 🙂

[@NorCalCycling]

Thanks buddy!!! That design is growing on me

[@ricardojuarez291]

Sportsmanship said it all... That was really bad crash thanks for sharing and turn around to see what happens to the other guys... Keep up the good work

[@blackcyclist]

I hate seeing these crashes, but I love your videos and the informative voiceover. Keep em coming 😁👍🏿

[@jbaillie]

1:04 Unmodded CRX?!?!

[@BigBrownMonke]

Thanks Jeff for the Checklist! I suggest everyone to take a look at it, really helpful. 💯🙏

[@johnyg8183]

"Today's video sponsored by...me!" So great to see you sponsor your own video! Planning to get the shoes.

[@kidsafe]

Winning move at 5:19. Dude in yellow/red and the sweet RIDE wristband sneaks off the front with 8.2km/5.1mi to go, never to be seen again.

[@Timtimzi]

lol das u.

[@brianheneghan8220]

Yeah. You pulled the Houdini move when you rolled off the front. I completely missed you riding out of sight.

[@kidsafe]

60% of the time the slow ramp, sneak attack from the front works every time.

[@khwang89466]

Checked out the merch and the design looks awesome. Hilarious Dwight Schrute reference btw LOL.

[@crb0n181]

Yeah NorCal stickers would be fire

[@maczone3953]

Hi ! Your fitness levels is excellent (given that you are in your mid 30s) and you are so confident with your sprints..! Great videos !

[@richardgarrett3188]

It seems dangerous to race on open public roads and blowing through traffic control devices. How are these hazards [of moving vehicles] mitigated in races like this?

[@kidsafe]

Ultimately the combination of traffic density and speed is what endangers cyclists more than any other factor. The Alviso group ride takes place at 12:00pm on a weekday in a sleepy corner of San Jose around an unoccupied office park. It's infinitely safer than riding solo just about anywhere else. We police ourselves pretty hard if we encounter traffic. You can actually see an instance of it at 5:18. The 5-man break only got caught because we neutralized ourselves behind that box truck. Eventually Alviso may become overrun with cars, at which point we will be forced to find a new course.

[@charlieruns7953]

@@kidsafe that might be the worst case of rationalization I've ever heard. What endangers cyclist more than any factor is the failure to follow traffic laws - regardless of speed and traffic density.

[@kidsafe]

​@@charlieruns7953 Utterly incorrect. Traffic volume is best predictor of cycling related collisions. It's why special laws like the Idaho / Safety Stop exist. It turns out bikes spending more time near intersections is more dangerous than less time, and a bike stopped at an intersection = more time.

[@rodster44]

holy crap you guys are fast

[@jwalk4491]

I watched your video early in the morning. Went into the forest for mtb ride and my chain snapped. What are the odds of that. Lucky for me another rider had a link and helped me fix it.

[@Ganbertuli]

nice merch but can you make also t-shirt that says "Alviso" I'd buy it

[@motivationcorporation.]

Your channel is a find! Thank you for your content, keep it up!

[@emperorgsx]

That red hook crit allez sprint 🥵🔥🔥

[@sirubenpo]

men..... maintaning 167bpm while going all out is so freaking amazing!

[@ClaudioMarquez]

Jeff!! What size hoodie do you wear? M or L? I love the bear design 💯

[@NorCalCycling]

Medium 👍 the clothes run a little on the small side so if you’re between size up

[@ClaudioMarquez]

@@NorCalCycling sweet - got the L for that comfy off-season fit!

[@eliotzbot]

Damn did they remove the RV?

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

Damn wish you guys came up here to Southern Ontario, the winds would be a serious challenge here cross chaining here is a fact of cycling, most actually bend their front derailleurs on purpose to get max cross chain to use the Big-Big combos on these ridiculous winds. 30 km cross winds mixed with 25 km head winds are a daily rite, using 60mm wheels is suicide here. You can have 5 kg road bike no way to reach those speeds, not with this weather here. Great video action there!

[@kidsafe]

It gets just as windy here in NorCal, buddy. We still ride deep wheels.

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

Was on 60 mm wheels, however the cross winds here near the great lakes are not that safe. Switched to 40 mm wheels and it has helped tremendously. Moved from Europe to here and never seen anything like these winds over there and I grew up in the mountains there ( 800 meter line). This weekend going to be 5 Celsius with 30 km winds, not many will go out cycling. Snow is about to show up next week so bikes have been put in storage already, we have a short cycling season here California with the drier air has a longer cycling season. When it gets -25 Celsius here not many ride their bikes just too damn cold.

[@ricardor890]

Hi great view of the race . The commentary provide an exciting aspect to it all how do you get those graphic on your screen thanks

[@glacifi7484]

Always a good day when NorCal uploads

[@geraldtone5914]

"There are no winners when someone crashes" Me: Doing 1900 watts pass the crash and across the finish line.

[@cornishcat11]

backwards hat dylan would be proud of you

[@cosmonott1]

Wondering if you're going to release jerseys for sale? Awesome video.

[@thirdlooprules]

One time in a major crit a dudes chain just fell off onto the ground while we were rolling from staging up to the start line 😂

[@DummyUrD]

The right move, in the end everybody rides together

[@SeraStaplz]

Hey, in addition to the meters to the end, could you put up either an overall time or distance traveled? That can give us a gauge of how much energy that's been expended already.

[@dmv4554]

So clickbaity. So dangerous to be having an unsanctioned race on an open street with traffic.

[@woofenzo]

💯 agree

[@Metal_Face_Doom]

Do the cars from the neighborhood ever get in the way? I'm amazed how a crit is being held in Alviso!

[@brianheneghan8220]

Cars rarely get in the way and if they do we just slow up until they turn or we can get by safely.

[@bikes7777]

Dude sweats the details in his t shirts, but walks around with a dorky groucho Marx goatee LOL

[@NorCalCycling]

😘

[@addormitus]

Any insights to using GoPro footage with VIRB Edit? I'm having all kinds of trouble using the videos from my GoPro 9. Thanks.

[@sidewinder4718]

🗣why not make cycling gear merch? at the very least socks✅

[@patoc2857]

Can’t seem to download the checklist on iPhone Safari. Page brings me back to the form when submitting. Works on chrome browser though. Thanks

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

damn i crashed my ebike only doing 20 mph on a downhill corner , lost the grip bike slid with me following , scraped my nose and teeth knee elbow and wrist on rough tarmac ,sprained my wrist and knee needed gluing

[@walterarama]

1:04 damn…. Such a rad crx

[@alexevrov8935]

Is there any way to find some crits near me? I have been trying to find some on the Internet, but there was none in my country.(I live in Bulgaria)

[@jamesferdinandfetter3522]

Trying and failing to stay in your draft... :(

[@notetrail3826]

The merch designs are so sick but living in socal i just cant wear something that says, "norcal cycling"

[@ClownPatroI]

Can someone please tell me how 'experienced breakaway riders' don't allow people to sit out the back and just get pulled along? I imagine they just threaten them with an attack (lol)?

[@kidsafe]

We conspire in "AERO LEGS" Slack/Discord and talk about how we're going to beat Jeff. Then we attack him relentlessly and sit-up if he makes it to us. Having teammates also helps. If I miss the break and Jeff also misses the break, I'm waiting for him to be out of position before I try to jump across. Also going for the Hail Mary with 2-3 laps to go, forcing a sprinter into a quick decision to follow a "desperation move" that has a high chance of failure or hope someone else covers. Coincidentally, Jeff and most of the others didn't even know I snuck away with 3.5 laps to go... in this very video. Those guys who crashed (Sergei and BrianH) were racing for second. I'm the speck off in the distance. I had a 40 second lead on the final lap and soft-pedaled to the finish once I got to Disk Drive. I won two weeks before with a similar move, though also finished DFL in between when the movie didn’t work. Just how it goes.

[@dustind9242]

Nice merch. What size did you have on at the beginning of the video? M or L?

[@NorCalCycling]

Medium

[@ItsSkyhawk]

Can someone explain to me how a chain slip can cause a crash?

[@NorCalCycling]

when you're putting down a lot of power like in this case the sprint, and suddenly the chain loses tension, it causes you to lunge forward and often times crash

[@ItsSkyhawk]

@@NorCalCycling Makes sense, thanks Jeff!

[@charnestours1948]

Why does a guy have a seat pack swinging under his seat? Is he going to stop and fix a flat?

[@kidsafe]

He has been known to ride 140mi on Tuesdays between Alviso and TNR, so the saddle bag is pretty important.

[@jsobev8036]

nice T-shirt

[@alex_smallet]

"Familiar face"😁

[@nealm6764]

Maybe they gave you the right (and shelter from wind) because they don't think a bragging rights race is worth the consequences of buzzing along parked cars and what would happen if a door suddenly opened? Just a thought.

[@haricharan245]

Is that a Hammerhead Karoo 2 that you’re using?

[@migjav8391]

I want a don’t chase your teammates shift lol

[@victorknubben5515]

Lol bro starts talking about huis safety checklist while there is someone completely ruined on screen

[@baddawqyt2912]

what size handle bars do you use

[@jirehsamson2732]

Jeff, do you deliver worldwide?

[@ian3893]

Such disorganised racing, huge gaps between riders causing so much energy to be lost. European racing is so different as we actually learn to ride closer to each other in chain gangs…..

[@kidsafe]

This is a group ride with people of all skill and fitness levels.

[@LoaforDie]

Can I meet you at Alviso to buy one? I’d buy a hoodie.

[@metkeltvmaykl8676]

how can I join the team?

[@mateagoston8145]

I am confused, we already saw plenty of crashes on this channel and mostly they didn't stop until the finish line.

[@ryanrichbourg563]

I think it's different when it's the end of the race (no time to stop at the pit and jump back in) when there is material consequence from a mechanical

[@kidsafe]

@@ryanrichbourg563 At the end of the day Alviso is a group ride, if someone crashes, we stop.

[@cyclingislif3]

nice merch🔥🔥

[@DanTuber]

So you all just stopped?

[@nathanielbrewster8457]

Do you race on an open road without race numbers?

[@brianheneghan8220]

So everyone knows this isn’t a race, though we may say race and in the videos we are obviously going all out. This has always been a noon ride where we meet , ride hard for bragging rights and socialize while riding back to work.

[@alexaubrecht6596]

I tried to download the checklist but it just kept throwing up an error. What should I do?

[@NorCalCycling]

We’re working on it right now

[@NorCalCycling]

Should be fixed, thanks for your patience!!

[@HamRadio200]

Wow!

[@KL-gc2hx]

I have never reached 60kph, 50 kph at most on the ground😂

[@Vehicles-And-Stuff]

imagine speeding…. ON A BIKE

[@ChiTownBrownie89]

Anyone else having trouble getting the checklist?

[@NorCalCycling]

It’s a known issue we’re getting to the bottom of it right now I’ll let u know

[@NorCalCycling]

Should be fixed, thanks for your patience!!

[@siriosstar4789]

ouch . that bike bounced like a basket ball.

[@brianheneghan8220]

Brand new Canyon Aeroad.

[@siriosstar4789]

knock it off you scum sucking spammer .

[@ryuujinusa]

Can't download list, says contact administrator

[@NorCalCycling]

Sorry working on a fix right now stay tuned

[@NorCalCycling]

Should be fixed, thanks for your patience!!

[@ryuujinusa]

@@NorCalCycling Cheers!

[@tristansmeets6086]

So did you win or not thats what i came to see

[@brendonmadden-smith]

why does Dante race with that awful wobbling saddle bag?

[@sckego]

Video from Brian’s bike: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXfFhpSMmchpeck

[@sckego]

There’s a pretty good view from Timmy’s bike too but I think it’s only on FB

[@brianheneghan8220]

@@sckego kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3_YfGtnjrKUj68

[@armadilllo]

Cracks me up, all the spandex panty boys yell at motorcyclists to wear all the gear putting around the neighborhood but it's ok for them not to.

[@ajnevitt]

Was that Brian H?

[@brianheneghan8220]

Yes. That was me flying through the air.

[@yovino4862]

Nice

[@notreally2406]

YOU were going 39 ...they were not

[@buzzman4860]

Does this event have insurance or permits?

[@tewaewae]

its not an event. It's just ppl riding in circles on an open street,

[@BigBrownMonke]

Your slow is my fast

[@geraldtone5914]

Facts. 18mph is the upper end i Of what I can hold for an hour. I guess he means slow for a group.

[@kartaispavarau]

I want such bycicle :(

[@milkatouteallure8602]

Nice vidéo as always ! Im a French cyclist, and i started training for running. I hope this will improve my fitness and doind so, my cycling skills !! Fell free to check the video of my first race.

[@coolboi6924]

Train me train me Pick me pick me

[@CG-99]

Racing with cars on the road…..not for me…is this even legal in the US??? Wouldn’t be here.

[@ReVoltaire]

@@IlPinnacolo remember, the race is not to the Zwiftest but to the Zafest

[@CG-99]

@@IlPinnacolo you are so brave, so macho I want to be like you one day 🤣🤣🤣

[@kidsafe]

Alviso takes place at 12pm on a weekday around an unoccupied tech campus. We might see 4-5 cars on any given day, all traveling predictably slow. If this sounds intimidating, then riding solo literally anywhere else should terrify you. I get buzzed by McLarens and H2Rs going 80km/h+ on a narrow winding road like 35/Skyline with no shoulder for me to ride on. I ride on wide urban boulevards like El Camino Real nearly every day. That's so much more likely to put me in the hospital than doing Alviso in an empty office park.

[@westsidewheelmen]

Yes; where are you?

[@K61r]

Racing on public roads and disobeying road signs. Y'all are like the tuner guys but on road bikes..

[@karlprescott2085]

So clearly you would of won.

[@korethoe262]

Where is the merch manufactured? America, I hope, not a country by slaves for pennies.

[@charliedillon1400]

Slaves don't work for pennies, they work for yen.

[@walterarama]

Exactly

[@emyantonionacionales6860]

First!

[@userBlackChingChangChong]

Omg..so sweet😍

[@keithquinn5624]

Whoa! 39mph! 😂😂😂🤣🤣 when ur balls drop and u stop drinking soy get a motorcycle.