*Crash* Black Horse L-39 90mm ARF

[@ashleyhamilton7902]

Definitely sad to see this one go, but way to be a good sport about it babe and not letting it stop you from getting back out there! You have a love for the hobby and this unfortunately comes with it. I love your sense of humor and good spirit! Keep being you and doing you’re thing. Never change! ♥️ Thanks everyone for all your support! We really appreciate it ✌🏻♥️

[@1983dmd]

He has a very good co-pilot !

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks babe!! I am super lucky to have you!

[@ShadowOppsRC]

@@1983dmd best copilot ever!

[@txkflier]

When you’re on the verge of a stall and you deflect the ailerons, the plane will usually snap roll in the opposite direction. The aileron that goes down to lift that side of the wing increases the angle of attack and drag, causing it to stall first and also pull the plane to that side. The plane was so small in the video that I couldn’t really tell what happened, but it didn’t seem to have much power or speed during the takeoff..

[@hamiltonshangar]

For sure man thank you!

[@jacksonrcaviation]

My friend you didn't hide it, we appreciate you my friend it's rc aviation nobody is hurt except the wallet. Take care and something😎

[@davidclark2702]

Che, I saw the thumbnail and my heart sank. I followed your build and maiden and admired all your hard work on this bird. Thanks for sharing the highs AND the lows of this great hobby of ours.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks David!

[@TheFrenchPug]

Dude! Only other thing would be a stall in the turn beside aileron failure. But it looked like you had plenty of speed compared to your first flight. I'm an older jet pilot but never had a crash of my jets. My prop planes, yes! I stalled 2 of them. So I can imagine the pain of losing that beautiful bird. You would love to fly where I flew, on the dry lake bed of El Mirage in Adelanto, CA. Tons of just runway everywhere. Now I live in Orange County with ZERO runway anywhere and don't fly :(

[@polyscient]

Based on the lower tone of EDF, visual speed, and what it did, he was definitely not flying fast enough for a plane with that high wing loading. 12 lbs in that little thing.

[@praisexul8821]

I am sorry that happened to you I have lost a couple drones myself and it feels like your ❤️ is getting ripped out your chest, I'm glad your gonna get back on the saddle again and not let this end a clear passion of yours, God bless you and your family and have great day

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you man I appreciate you watching as well! Cheers!

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Nooo 😭 Sorry man! I agree with @txkflier in his remarks below - it definitely was an accelerated stall. Next jet you get with a higher wing loading, we'd suggest taking it up nice and high and purposely loading up the wing in a high bank turn while slow. Let it snap over and work on recoveries. Too long to type out full thoughts on how to practice this here but practicing upset recoveries will help prevent it again. Unfortunate loss but a great learning experience, nonetheless. Keep on flyin'!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Exactly man! A learning experience and on to the next!

[@polyscient]

Agree. As he said in his maiden flight video, "it flies better at 75% throttle".. a 12 lb plane with a wing area that small needs to be moving fast to pull through turns.

[@feathersofflame]

Damn Bro. I felt that.... Steady vibes and clear skies brother..

[@1983dmd]

That's what I like about you...You share the bad and the good....But compare to the last crash, NOW you have a normal reaction !!!?%$#$?%&*? !!! BUT the best quote: The pilot did not have time to eject !!! Looking forward to your next video! Don't stop buliding and flying ! And keep your good sense of humor !

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@TheRCAirMarshall]

Sorry to see this Che. With any luck the bulk of the cost is still usable. The airframe itself is only a small portion of that $2000 cost. If the retracts, servos, ESC, fan unit, etc is still in working order then this isn’t as bad a loss as it seems at face value.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!! Lots of salvageable electronics!!

[@erinphillips7164]

Sorry Che. I felt that here. Save what you can and re build. Your the man showing us the good the bad and the ugly.

[@dandork20]

First time I'm seeing this as I'm new to the channel. Things happen, life goes on. Glad to see you stayed in the hobby.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks for checking us out! Couldn’t imagine leaving! Thank you for watching!

[@andreasderstamm]

Hi sorry for that loss... I was flying the black horse l-39 plane 1 year until I sold it... for me it was definitely an tipstall. the this model has to be flown in wide curves, caused from her span an weight. and when this occur you have only small chance to get the control back. that needs fast reaction close over the ground. as a Tipp the viperjet is much more stable. greetings

[@nicholasflyboymiller68]

I’ve watched this several times and it look identical to what happend with my b2 bomber. I have come to the conclusion I lost orientation and when I realized I was a step behind what the plane was doing and it went down. Sick for you brother but good attitude about it. Atleast the big money ( electronics/power) are reusable! Happy flying much love!! Your friend in flying ( FL7BO7)

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks for watching man!

[@payitfwdrcl6171]

Yeah Che’. You said it all. Tough loss. You got a lot of folks here uncluding myself that feel the pain. Take care, Brad. 👊👊

[@jerrywillfong5770]

So sorry to see this. It takes balls to share the video with us. Good luck with the next build. You will be back better!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@victorrcjets7660]

She went before her time you should have gotten a lot more love out of that beautiful jet!

[@ficosk8]

Thanks for sharing all of your videos, so maybe the one or other can learn from it!

[@smokeymcbongwater3561]

Sorry to see that you got a great attitude. You inspire me thanks for sharing

[@planes4dayz815]

Che it happens to everyone, thanks for having the guts to share. My BH L-39 blew the ESC on maiden and I had to deadstick land it. It stalled early and the nose shattered. If Motions gets a fuselage back in stock I’ll get it for $300 and get it back in the air eventually. But I know the feeling, I was sick about it! That thing takes so much time to build not to mention the price! Head up high and get back out there soon!

[@tughillrc6327]

Che sorry to see that . I agree with Pilot Jerry RC, Takes Balls to share this disaster with us. You will overcome this set back and servos lock up, hinges snap, wings implode, receivers brown out, linkages break ect... ect... the price of the model matters little because anything man made can and will fail at the worst possible time. We all know your a Good Pilot and do your preflight checks. Some of us respect what you do and those who do not are Haters. Good luck and may you see happier flying ahead.

[@michaelgeorgallis9350]

Sorry to see this che. Please don’t give up on it. Really appreciate your channel, the ups and the downs!

[@J.S.RCHobbies]

I am so sorry Che. I was shocked when I saw the thumbnail popup on my screen. Your attitude about the situation shows how classy you truly are. We all need a moment of silence to remember your L-39. Hope you are able to figure out what went wrong.

[@ricardopr54]

In sorry for your loss my friend! Definitely mechanical failure no pilot error at all! You are a very good pilot my friend!... I've learned a lot about jet flying following your channel... You are one of the best out there!... Have a great day! Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🌵🦠😷🇵🇷

[@duonesmith]

I’m sorry 😢 Hamilton. I know you spent so much time working on this beautiful bird. Keep flying 🛩 my friend.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you, I will

[@RCPlaneReviewer]

Fly,Crash,Build and Repeat...don't be deterred!💯💥🤟

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks man!

[@robistech3477]

Hi Hamilton I have the same plane with a KingTech K45-G2. Yesterday I had exactly the same happening but on a left turn. Frustrated like you I don’t know what the real cause was. I had 10 flights beautiful and without any problems. Did you research in the meantime what it could have been? Actually my crashed plane looks the same.

[@raglan0015]

Sad to see such a nice aircraft go in. I must admit it looked very underpowered on take off and throttling back after takeoff would have reduced the speed even more which makes me think its a simple stall. The speed didn't seem to be building that well, also when did you raise the flaps, that could have been the final straw in making the wing stall. It's always a bummer not knowing the exact cause of the crash.

[@ammo193]

Commiserations bro, believe me I also used to flip out over losing even cheaper rc planes because rc planes are so hard to come by where I live...

[@flyboywbl]

Guy on Reddit just had his elevator come apart in flight. I talked with him. The manual has you us CA glue to install the hinges. These hinges need 30 minute epoxy to hold.

[@RC_fidelio]

It's sad the loss of such a cool plane. I'm flying the L-39 AF with Turbine. Was it the range test, connector-, cable-, wing-fuselagconnector failer, radio antenna, Power breakdown.... ? But despite not a reason to cry into the camera :-)

[@DaveItYourselfChannel]

I shouldn't have watched this video in the morning. Ugh! SO SORRY TO SEE Che'! Damn bro....

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@Smallbus]

Sorry to see this happen to you, Che…much respect for sharing with us 🙏🏻

[@davidsnyder238]

Im shaking my head. First Im sorry for the loss of that beautiful plane. Second I tend to agree with your assessment of surface failure based on the slow spiral aileron role to the left. If your telemetry didnt show signal loss then clearly you had a surface failure causing the crash. Just realize its not a failure, it happens to all of us even with the big models. Still super proud of you for the build and successful first flight and I know you will have another one!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks David!

[@NeedSpeedRC]

I feel your pain. We’ve all felt it one way or another. I look fwd to your next project.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@thehanger3436]

Man that sucks but at least you have a good attitude about it. I just had a bunch of planes damaged in my move but even that’s part of the hobby. Can’t wait to see what you build next.

[@waynesrc1958]

Sorry man,I feel your pain, although my crashes haven’t been that expensive. You took it very well, I would be crying 😢

[@jetman899]

Sorry for your loss, I'm sharing your pain.RIP.

[@rcpd3157]

That's heartbreaking! I have acted worse over servo failures on my rc car😂. You have a great attitude about it. Keep enjoying the hobby guys.

[@JustEnoughRC]

Man that sux bro! Sorry for your loss! I just crashed my f5 last week. Nothing compared to the price of this but she was my favorite jet. At least you got a legit excuse for something new!!

[@reginaldwashington764]

Sorry to see this Che . As I said on the last one , learn from it , move on to the next one .Your a great pilot , keep doin you .

[@6SRC_YT]

OMG Che, so sorry about that... it was a sweet plane!

[@ltdorn]

i left a comment on your F100 crash.... since your using JETI, i think you might be getting interference. are you running 2.4 AND 900mhz rx's? i see that shool in the background... if they are running high power Wifi APs it could be interfering with your signal... have you checked your jeti logs? (i think jeti has logs)

[@ShadowOppsRC]

Oh snap buddy! That sucks buddy! Sorry to hear!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@RCINFORMER]

Che, glad the takeoff went smoothly 👌. A little flap on takeoff goes a long way for a smooth takeoff:) It does look like some sort if component failure... sorry that happened:(

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you man!! On to the next one!

[@halroofner4069]

You have a great attitude. Sorry to see such a beautiful plane go down. Keep your chin up. Best wishes.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you, I will

[@jimrichardson8575]

Sorry about your loss of your beautiful jet. I just lost someone very dear to me today from Covid19. I guess my loss isn't the same, but it hurt so much, and I just needed to share it. Thanks for listening.

[@hamiltonshangar]

I Am so sorry for your loss man! You are in our prayers

[@jimrichardson8575]

@@hamiltonshangar : Thank You So much. It hit me, and my wife really hard.

[@DronemanJoeRc]

Hey bud Coachd rc reommended you channel, i just had a recent crash myself and it wasnt pilot error. That looked really messed up. Thanks for sharing and look fwd to more

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks for checking it out man!! Sorry to hear about your recent crash!

[@DadsRCHangar]

Was really hard to see what happened Che’. I mean DAM, I feel for you buddy. You did well to take a deep breath and understand that S..t happens. You know you a good pilot so I am sure you will put this behind you 👍🏻

[@michaelcuthbert6956]

Really sorry that this happened. Followed the build videos and was looking forward to seeing more of this beautiful bird.

[@WildBillFlysRC]

Oh no! dang, that's tough to watch Che.

[@acw400]

Very sorry this happened. Looks like a stall to me although hard to tell. Right after takeoff you changed some trim. Did you add some up trim? One thing with these EDF is that thrust reduces rapidly during the first 30s so maybe you needed to fly it a little faster with a lower angle of attack. This hobby can bite hard. We have all lost many great planes!

[@hamiltonshangar]

This was a tough loss. Definitely a stall I would say due to lack of speed. Thank you for watching!

[@IJustGotHere]

So sorry about that! It always hurts a little more when you spend the time to do the extra details like the pilots and everything.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you Gary!!!!

[@2erc22]

Oh Noooooooo!!!! That is a lot of expensive kindling. Hope you can get a replacement soon.

[@DeclineofJehovah]

You got some balls flying at a public park with a jet that size haha Awesome plane man, sad to see her go down. It happens though, its apart of the hobby.

[@cooldisel]

good luck mate and i feel your pain.. but is it me or the 90 is too small for this size of L39, as i have smaller one (composite) and it requires either 120mm EDF or turbine so i shuved a K70 inside XD

[@JeffinLowerAlabama]

Sorry Che and Ashley, Sorry for the crash, darn, didn't ever want to see a thumb nail like this, Jeff in LA USA

[@Hoomi2]

Do you have your AMA "Fly Cycle" shirt yet? "The Fly Cycle: Build, Fly, Crash, Repeat." The only way we guarantee we'll never crash, is to never fly, and what fun would that be?

[@ricardopr54]

This is so true!😁 Awesome comment!...👍🏾Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍🏾🌵🦠😷🇵🇷

[@GBLynden]

I am soooo sorry Che! 😥

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@KB_RC]

NOOOOO HOW!!!!!!!😭😭😭😭😭 So sorry man that really stinks. That definitely was a big loss. looked like you had no aileron control.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks man!

[@ronnylayden966]

Dude, you took it well.I wish I had that attitude.

[@mrt1035]

Bro, dang! I just bought my first big L-39 like what rc informer has a few months ago. It’s a nice plane too. We size up not because we have to but because of the thrill for the next best thing. Best of luck to that next one!

[@gilbertruiz4959]

So sorry for your loss you handle it very well I think I would have laid down rolled over and cried LOL

[@AeroSmithyRC]

I feel your pain mate, I rolled my Savex L-39 (Wren 44i turbine) onto it's back after 5-flights. It was my first turbine jet. It was my fault, I turned upwind onto my landing leg and wind shear just took her out of the sky (too slow with the wind at my back). It wasn't unlike your L-39 crash. Anyway, 3-years later I have another Savex L-39 with the same turbine in it (airframe was a total write-off) and she has nearly 100 flights and around 10 hours of flight time on her now. Nothing good ever comes easy. Keep up the videos and the content, love it that you're in the hobby ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@halroofner4069]

Hey Shay, I just finished watching Tow the line and noticed you were thinking about your next possible jet. I know you love the L39, and I recently watched a unboxing video of the new Blackhorse L39 120. Your thoughts?

[@hamiltonshangar]

It looks good man! It really needed those upgrades!

[@CoachD386]

Dang bruh! I like your outlook on it though, definitely something we don’t like but stuff happens. Stay positive fam 👍🏾💯

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you bro!

[@NoonzAirborneRC]

Damn che! Sorry to see that thing go down. Bright side tho...you just need the kit the most of the money spent was in electronics which im hoping are still intact and good. Wondering what the telemtry flight log says...keep up the good work!!!

[@MrKenwillis]

Hamilton that was a stall, sorry to say. Keep building and flying

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks man! Keep on keeping on!

[@MrKenwillis]

@@hamiltonshangar you should try the Sebart avanti 90mm jet. These jet are hard to stall and fly very nice, try it you’ll like I promise

[@DeucesWildRC]

Oh man that one hurts 😞 stick with Foamies bro, hurts a little less ✌️👊

[@jeffwest5080]

Sorry for the crash, unfortunately it was a stall. The black horse L-39 really needs a 120mm it’s a big jet. Crashes happen

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@Tobywan79]

Damn, sorry for your loss man.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@ghoustanable]

Sorry to see that magnificent bird go down like that definitely went down before its time. What servos did you have on the ailerons?

[@hamiltonshangar]

I had some Hitec in there man

[@think2cre81]

My heart goes out to those two brave pilots. 💔 my son crashed 3 - $500 planes in one day , that was my biggest rc financial loss 📉 😢 .. he was only 10 years old at the time . He's almost 30 now lol and I don't miss the money 🤣 because those memories that surround those days last a lifetime. Successes and failures. It's all good 👍 you were right when you said , ( you knew the risks ) flying is so different from rc boats or trucks , they are operating in two dimensions. It's that 3rd dimension that is so risky . That's why we get that shake in our knees and our heart rate races and why we love it so much . Not everyone can do it . I'm teaching my grandkids now . My 9 year old is getting it now . He felt that rush yesterday. On the simulator 10 Successful challenge flights . He was so proud of himself. I believe he could fly my slow stick right now . But going to take him up on the buddy cord a few times first . Let the memories begin lol 😆...

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you for sharing that and thank you for watching!!

[@smidrcdopiva6061]

I am not pilot, but jets need speed. And if you start turning in low speed - its finish, your last chance is only big altitude for reclaiming control. Only single moment, when you can fly with jets in low speed is on center (+ flaps if extreme slow). Plane as L39 forgive you to much fails - thats why is training jet - i think oblivion flaps, but never time low speed turning. This applies to everyone jets. If drag plane construct to extreme speed (super fighters), they need to much speed to turning and they are much more susceptible low speed mistakes. I am from czech republic, live 30km next to Aero Vodochody, fabrication of L39. It hurts, when i see ours planes destroyed. Good luck bro. Here we say: You learn from mistakes, the main thing is to admit them.

[@hamiltonshangar]

She was going to slow in the turn I appreciate you taking the time comment!

[@flyingant2557]

Ché, at 0:43, what is the transmitter adjustment or sound being made? I don’t fly with a Jeti, so I’m unfamiliar with that sound other than when trims are being made. Man, I hated to watch this video. But it’s also part of the adventure in this hobby unfortunately.

[@hamiltonshangar]

That was me giving it up elevator trim sir because I felt her nose heaviness after shifting the batteries aft from the last flight a bit and taking the previous trim out. I really Appreciate you taking the time to watch this brutal crash. And I was out there flying again this afternoon after it happened this morning bro! Not giving up that easy. Take care man!

[@AirVexedRC]

Man...just...man....whew!!!

[@craigschray4486]

Such a bummer man. People can say crashing is part of the hobby, but it still hurts. Lost dollars, lost time building. It hurts your confidence... I don't fly jets, but I'm literally just starting to fly with an on-board camera pointing towards the back of the plane. I'm working on a better mounting system than just using velcro. Besides the cool factor of watching flights, my eventual hope is that I can use it as a troubleshooting tool if I lose a plane. Was it me or the plane...

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@jettechdonatkins]

Che', I watched many times.At 52 seconds,you can see something come off of the aircraft.Did you see that? I had to watch and stop a few times,but you can see a piece come loose,probably an aileron.A bummer,but Air Marshall along with others trying to help.Thanks for sharing this unpleasant event.

[@jasonmeadows7008]

Don Atkins, that was just a bird flying by. I thought the same at first but after many times watching the video this is a case of a stall. Read my other comment for the full assessment. Like others have said, it’s almost a relief knowing he stalled the plane, because that means his building skills are good, and his radio system is fine etc. Now he doesn’t have to wonder what will go wrong whenever he goes to fly something else. Just don’t get slow!

[@SquawkVFRC]

So sorry mate, that's absolutely terrible! I've been watching the build of this and was excited for you jumping into something big and your enthusiasm for it. It's never easy to have an aircraft go in especially if there was a gremlin within the components that you couldn't have foreseen. I don't know what to say man. Terribly sorry. Hope you can salvage the electrical components to use in another project.

[@markdavis7397]

Did you ever figure out what happened? Did you feel something change suddenly in the air? Anyway, the maiden flight was perfect, sorry this went down.

[@jasonmeadows7008]

Che, first off I’m sorry to see your bird you worked so hard on end up like this. It’s hard to know what happened exactly without being there, however as a full time-full scale flight instructor and avid RC guy I’ve watched the video back to back probably 100 times. Take it for what you want and it’s not meant to be a jabb at anyone but more so just a helpful, “this is what I see” assessment. We all learn from our mistakes and I’ve had my fair share of mistakes myself. Anyway, what I see in the video is a uncoordinated stall. Throughout the turn the plane looks to be climbing with the nose raised as it should. However near the completion of that turn, I hear the power come back but the nose never looks to be lowered. I can see the plane lose speed quite quickly and stall. Being that you were in a right turn, your left wing is creating more lift and therefore more drag than the right wing. Once it stalled it tried to roll over to the left and and dropped the nose hard. After impact I can hear you let go of the stick so I can assume you were probably commanding right roll and up elevator trying to recover, which creates even further drag on the left wing due to the aileron deflection and of course the elevator isn’t helping let the airplane recover from the critical angle of attack (AOA). We are all guilty of this even with real planes as I see students due it every day but the hard to fight human instinct to give more right roll command and up elevator only hurts the recovery efforts. Remember an airplane can stall at any speed and any attitude. Your a great sport and I can feel your pain. I once lost a $4000 comp arf on the 10th flight… and I just recently stepped into the world of turbines with a 2.2M T-one sport jet, and just completed the 6th flight on it and hoping to get many more. Again this is not meant to rial anyone up, it’s just what I see. And maybe it will help someone else avoid this. I Look forward to seeing more of your videos to come.

[@hangarfiftyone3527]

Jason I've been in this hobby 48 years and I saw and heard exactly the same thing; very well explained. I hope others well benefit from this loss so some good well come from it. great CRASH SEEN reporting Che !! "Pilots DOA unable to eject" LOL god I love you buddy such a great attitude !! you are a great asset to this hobby so clad you are here with us !!!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you sir, very well explained!!! I really appreciate it. It makes perfect sense!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Kenny, thank you sir! I am 100% transparent about what goes in this hobby on my end and I’ll keep it that way. My sense of humor really helps me keep that positivity!

[@rns888]

Very well said.

[@JoshWeaverRC]

Only those who dare big can fail big and you my friend, Che, failed big. Only those that dare big again can win big and this does not deter you. The painful part is that Dudeee when you accept your plane is in pieces. Although I'm not as experienced as Jason, I was looking to see the altitude acceleration before the flight. Not seeing it accelerate downward, loose altitude (potential energy for kinetic energy) for speed I can't rule out a stall. I'm not experienced as Kenny and his 48 years, hell, not even 8, but I know those turns increase drag and I like to cheat by loosing altitude. The Corsair is the bird that gets me. Maybe it is so beautiful that I just want to see it fly slowly and I pay. I'd say where we differ, and you may see my point and join me, is that I'm happier when it is my fault (pilot error), because then I can change and continue to fly. The uncontrolled kills me because what can I do but be scared next time it will happen again. Whatever it is, thanks for sharing.

[@paulhatcher9767]

I so hate to see this Che, it does come with the hobby, but always hard to swallow with. Good luck with the next one. Take Care my friend and way to go about being a good sport about it. I’m not sure I could of shared it.

[@Justaplanebuilder]

Possibly looks like a stall to me?

[@charlesrestivo870]

Truthfully looked underpowered in maiden also .So sorry for the loss of your aircraft .You have amazing restraint in your comments .

[@jcb6713]

What a shame. Hopefully you'll figure out what happened. Carry on ! ...

[@MPRasta104]

Unfortunate but it does happen. Paying close attention to the video AND what you said "roll in opposite direction" explains what happened. You're flying a dark blue airplane against a gray sky. If you notice, when you temporarily rolled out of the right turn, it was in silhouette mode. So when you when you thought you recovered and went to continue the right turn, it was actually banking to the left, which would explain why, when you pulled ELEV in the turn, it went down instead of up, because as you thought you were continuing a right bank, you were actually banking left, and by the time you thought you were level, you were actually almost inverted. So when you pulled up, you were pulling into the ground. If you watch closely you can see it end up in an away bank attitude. Plus, you can see when it's going down, the vertical stab is toward the ground. Inverted. Disorientation. It happens.

[@jettechdonatkins]

Oh no Che'! I am very sorry to see this.No pilot error here,you don't roll uncommanded like that unless something failed first.I hope to see you flying one of your other cool edfs very soon.Peace guys!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks Don!

[@elliothuh669]

What I have noticed is that most fatal problems stick their ugly head up in the first few flights. After, that it becomes less and less likely. In less a burnt out lipo is used or something. Even the cheapest servos last a pretty long time.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!!

[@D-Slowpass]

Ouch that was a nice bird too!

[@phillipmaher4456]

That was a real bummer man and I sure feel for you, I've been flying all sorts of aircraft for a lot of years and have had more than my share of those WTF moments/ total losses. I have the exact same jet in the same scheme (among many others including turbines big and small) and they all fly great in the right circumstances but in the wrong circumstances most jets will do just what yours did - a classic quick and without warning snap stall which are almost all impossible to recover in time, unless you are way up high. I'd put it down to a lack of speed in that turn, and the lower wing just let go, giving it quick opposite aileron just adds to the problem. You need to get more speed to recover from those stalls but the earth does come up fast doesn't it! I'm sure most of the electronics will be salvageable and will slot right in to the next model. I'd go for a more forgiving model, like the Blackhorse Viper and most of your components will slot right in. Good luck with your next build and flying.

[@OlivierHoornweg]

Good luck, So sorry for your crash

[@alpinerc1249]

Che, way to stay as positive about it as you could! It did look like it just started a slow roll in the opposite direction that was not able to be corrected, I feel like that's always the worst feeling. I'm sorry about this one buddy. She was a really nice bird. Stay up brotha!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Yes! Thank you!

[@williewideback]

DAM!!! 2K! I've lost a few and i know the feeling

[@mikessi]

Very sorry, but as Air Marshall said, if most of the guts are still good, you have most of the expensive parts ready to put in another one. Keep up the good work!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Great point!

[@JeffsCustomRC]

WOW!!! …..so sorry man!!! Words can’t express, hope you can figure out what went wrong when you get over the initial shock, we all know the feeling, however much the cost, but I know what you put into this and it makes it a lot worse than a 600.00 dollar plane😞

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you man I really appreciate it!!

[@boss2234]

We have all had this happen and one never knows it’s part of the thrill of aviation. For sure some thing failed.

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thank you!

[@trevor5290]

Sorry for you loss man.. but you were about 5 lbs overweight. All that bling looks good on the ground but nobody cares about it in the air.. and that's the important part.

[@irekim]

Hey. My opinion. Been flying 40 years. So I may be right, may be wrong. Looks like you were flying a huge pattern and lost track of which wing was up and which wing was down. Whatever it was you can hear your sticks on your radio twang back to center which may mean you had full throw right or left, and full throw up. It just my opinion but looks like it started with loss of right left position (visually) and ended in a heavy stall. Shes a pretty heavy jet as you can see when she took off. Truly sorry. In a way I'd rather it was your fault. Because you don't want to chase a radio problem. Then you'll always be shiting your pants when you fly. One thing I love to do is own my mistakes and learn from them. I'm really not trying to be a dick. Sorry again for the loss guy. :(

[@boss2234]

I have had the very thing your talking about happen to myself, I did not stall but ended up inverted and plowed in not knowing I was inverted.

[@cato12]

Damn. So much easier to see a 500$ bnf crash than a 1500 plus dollar arf crash. SMH.

[@ljhobbylife]

Dang bro!! I’m sorry bro I know how much work you out into it!

[@hamiltonshangar]

Thanks bro!!