The commentary from brindle at the end of the race "starting near the back of the grid Renault thought they would try something different. Didnt seem to work out so they pulled in Alonso and he drops back but amazingly the sister Renault brings out a safety car and their strategy worked out perfectly" Or something like that. You can hear the scepticism already in his voice
@johngancarcik56824 жыл бұрын
Yea I could hear it too like he could tell something didn't seem right about everything that happened that night
@565656gooner3 жыл бұрын
@@delusionalbaritone Mercedes have never deliberately crashed their car to win a race... nothing compares to outright cheating mate
@MisterBuffers2 жыл бұрын
@@delusionalbaritone When has Mercedes’ ever crashed on purpose?
@heliumtrophy Жыл бұрын
That's the thing with Brundle's commentary - his measured voice always has that "don't get too carried away folks, something could play up" which given it's F1 is always possible but it definitely seemed switched on there.
@RBenjo213 жыл бұрын
That Kravitz report at Monza is fascinating. Pat Symonds was unimpeachable until then; Piquet was just sacked, and potentially had an axe to grind. So it makes sense to say “of course he asked him to crash, yeah right”. For those who weren’t around at the time, Renault’s U-turn a week later was as stunning as it was astounding. I think all the evidence in the case is available online. It includes the radio conversations of the Renault team, which not only is guilty as sin but also shows Alonso had no idea of the plan, as he was told before the race he would be 3-stopping.
@robertturtle7 ай бұрын
Uhmm Was Alonso so naive that it didn't occur to him the race was basically fixed?
@RBenjo217 ай бұрын
@@robertturtle Yes. Alonso admitted immediately afterwards he was “lucky”, and as I say the radio traffic to Alonso indicates he was led to believe he had changed strategy.
@fionnmaccumhaillsmammy296Ай бұрын
The only one who appears guilty in the transcript is Symonds Briatore is furious unless he’s acting
@moshambles2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe they could have pulled this off without Alonso's knowing cooperation
@Mexxx652 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Alonso knew nothing, then again Alonso always knows nothing, other than himself. Their is absolutely NO WAY Renault of Piquet Jr. could have orchestrated all this to happen at that exact moment in the race.
@snake5305 Жыл бұрын
@Mac Sixtyfive well, they did and it's been proven.
@audreyperrin320 Жыл бұрын
That's Kelly's brother it ruined his time In f 1
@mrbenman974 жыл бұрын
Glad to see grosjean hasn't changed
@johngancarcik56824 жыл бұрын
Where there's a crash grosjean is sure to be in it, causing it or the cause of it
@johngancarcik56823 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@mrbenman973 жыл бұрын
@@johngancarcik5682 sure didn't
@johngancarcik56823 жыл бұрын
@@mrbenman97 I'm glad he's ok cause that wreck in Bahrain I was thinking the worst till I saw him climb out and be helped to the safety car
@TheJokerit19 Жыл бұрын
Felipe brought me back.
@sbruns90 Жыл бұрын
And to think that just one race later, Alonso and Renault got the victory they wanted, on merit (yes Massa and Hamilton came together on the opening lap and both got penalties) at Fuji, which shows just how unnecessary the fixing of this race was!
@motorsportfanboy7769 Жыл бұрын
If only Alonso's car didn't break down in Q2...
@OtakuLogan20172 жыл бұрын
Massa was fucked over that night. If it weren't for Piquet crashing, the SC would never have come out, and Massa's pit crew wouldn't have succumbed to the pressure...
@BillyRamirez8 ай бұрын
Nobody else’s crew succumbed to the pressure. Massa needs to stop whining about that.
@HaraiGoshi3458 ай бұрын
Ironic how no onboard footage was available
@Pertamax7-HD3 жыл бұрын
Scary gate
@moshambles2 жыл бұрын
6:53
@louielouie953 жыл бұрын
Briatore Was To Blame
@pianortd48003 жыл бұрын
Guys, what happened to massa in this race? He was slow or ferrari messed up the strategy?
@cbe40083 жыл бұрын
Google his pit stop Singapore 2008 you’ll see
@snake5305 Жыл бұрын
Team released him too early in the pits and the fuel fipp line went with him. He had to stop in the pits and wait for his team to get it off and it put him in the back of the pack.
@pianortd4800 Жыл бұрын
@@snake5305 oh i know, thank you still. i gained a lot more knowledge about the whole f1 history during these years.
@markc8956 Жыл бұрын
Moseley ALWAYS favoured certain teams and team principals. So you can guarantee if it had been McLaren,they'd have been thrown out..
@jenkszy368411 ай бұрын
why weren’t they kicked out after spygate then?
@tequila_baby Жыл бұрын
Justice for Massa.
@roquesanta9769 Жыл бұрын
And yet FIS and the temas keep manipulating results and we make the drivers, we now know it was the team decision
@francoevangelista94143 жыл бұрын
Ao'!! Ancora credemo all'orchi co'le fate, ma nu ve le fate di', certe stronzate!!! Alonso che non sepeva niente?? Briatore e l'uomo più falso che possiamo trovare in giro! Visto anche la sua "carriera" giudiziaria!!! Poi tutto il resto è noia!!!!!!!!
@julesgalicano4568 Жыл бұрын
I was there last 2008 singapore
@peternolan5632 Жыл бұрын
Ooh ahhh ooh ahahahah
@TheJokerit192 жыл бұрын
2021 Abu Dhabi GP brought me here.
@alangaming20032 жыл бұрын
No Mikey no no no that was so not right
@tombardsley30812 жыл бұрын
Difference was a team actually cheated to manipulate the results. No team cheated in Abu Dhabi 2021
@TheJokerit192 жыл бұрын
@@tombardsley3081 True, but manipulative behavior in both cases nevertheless.
@OtakuLogan20172 жыл бұрын
Adelaide 1994.
@JaydanPuriel3 күн бұрын
you can't compare this two races their not identical