Never forget the GUMPS checklist. G: Gear down U: Undercarriage(gear down) M: Make sure your gear’s down P: Put your gear down S: Seriously put your gear down
@fjbtube62783 ай бұрын
That “bump” he felt was the right prop striking the ground
@johnfisher71433 ай бұрын
He’s very lucky he didn’t get it back into the air after the initial prop strikes. There have been instances of gear up landings in twins where the pilot has added power after realizing their mistake only to get airborne again and crash further around the pattern.
@spring45223 ай бұрын
And another "pilot" takes a perfectly serviceable aeroplane to the scene of the crash.
@BrokenWrenches3 ай бұрын
sometimes ya just get in a hurry and forget to put down the little rolley things.
@davidbarnes45863 ай бұрын
With 400 hours in a 55 Baron I do not know how anyone would not know the gear was not down. The gear is like a speed break-without the gear down any Pilot would know the Aircraft speed would not be correct. Fly by numbers!
@smark11803 ай бұрын
Same with Bonanzas.
@sparky62003 ай бұрын
Same with just about every plane with retracts... The level of retardation isn't even shocking anymore - its commonplace.
@DrJohn4933 ай бұрын
This E-55 Baron pilot for 27 years seconds your comment.
@timduggan14613 ай бұрын
"brake". Speed brake. But, this pilot DID break a very nice airplane unnecessarily.
@craighermle77273 ай бұрын
Everyone makes mistakes; it's a question of severity. There was a world famous-14 pilot with 1,000s if not 10s of thousands of hours high-performance jets, who died not long ago because he took off in his private plane with the control lock in place
@hotrodray68023 ай бұрын
CP here. Im lost... He said it started a right roll so he pulled the right engine and stabbed right rudder. I think he meant LEFT. ??????? Sure looks like the prop strike put him into a VMC or aileron stall roll. It has ALWAYS been my habit that when I select gear down I ALWAYS stop and wait for the gear down and locked lights. ALWAYS. When flying checkrides with Flight Safety pilot a couple decades ago this drove him crazy, telling me NOT to do that. Ive never landed gear up in 50 years. I even have a checklist at my house door and in my car. Call me OCD.
@JamieCameron-Mackintosh-z7c3 ай бұрын
That's a pretty clear indication of the hazards of failing to complete the landing checklist properly... IF we can trust the pilot's statement.
@GodzillaSpeaks3 ай бұрын
Even if he was carrying 20" of MP (excessive for those conditions, especially without the drag of the gear being down) it's hard to believe the gear horn wasn't singing on his roundout. The gear came down after the gear handle was lowered and once the sight picture in the cockpit communicated the fact that the gear wasn't down. Too bad the tower didn't see the gear not extended.
@BlackRedsPlaneSpottingChannel3 ай бұрын
WOW. Poor Beechcraft Baron. And the pilot, too.
@rallyden3 ай бұрын
The pilot’s statement makes no sense with the right roll and right power adjustment. And the smoke after the right engine prop strike did not indicate any challenging winds. He added power, lowered gear and the sick engine(s) hovered him at about 7’ and then just stalled.
@bernieschiff59193 ай бұрын
He is probably trying to cover for the fact that he didn't do his checklist. In our flying club, one of the members, not me, tried to land our Mooney 201 with the gear up and almost succeeded. Similar to this, he slammed down the gear switch at the last moment, forcing the wheels to lift the plane up and preventing a prop strike. Someone noticed about 2 weeks later the gear was not sitting straight. The mechanic grounded it instantly and said it could have collapsed at any time. Bill for repairs was oxer 35K.
@hotrodray68023 ай бұрын
@@bernieschiff5919 I was in the rear seat of a Commanche 250 when a CP rated pilot stalled in from 6 ft, bounced high, grabbed gear UP during the bounce and crammed full throttle... I guess he thought he was in a Cessna 172 that could fly out of a bounce. 😳 NEVER, NEVER rode in the backseat of anything again for 20 years. And only 3 times If I ain't at the controls, I ain't going. Period.
@JohnVHRC3 ай бұрын
Nice use of checklists.
@alk6723 ай бұрын
Is it common to start messing with engine levers trying to introduce asymmetric thrust in a landing flare in order to compensate for "gusts"? That sounds completely wild to me.
@calvinnickel99953 ай бұрын
It is on the rollout. In the King Air we are often encouraged to use downwind beta in a cross wind as rudder loses effectiveness. In the air? Never. That’s what crabbing and slipping are for.
@edgarnewberry-cw4ld3 ай бұрын
What a well engineered plane. When the prop tips hit the runway its too late to react.
@chipsrafferty83623 ай бұрын
The runway light fixtures are supposed to be frangable,those were not,a report is in order
@Wileybird033 ай бұрын
Dam!! Nice Baron too😢
@faceoftexas39033 ай бұрын
How about air speed with gear up. Coming in way too hot. By the numbers as stated above
@andersschoen36133 ай бұрын
As an airline pilot I look back at my general aviation days. I survived 1500 hrs GA flying. Being a new pilot in General Aviation is some of the most dangerous times in a pilots career apart from being a military pilot. We are inexperienced with very little safety thinking and flying often complex pistons. No procedures, no flows, no gates to trigger necessary actions. It’s a very deadly combination.
@DrJohn4933 ай бұрын
It can be. But for those of us that spent our whole career flying GA, some like me tried to build regimentation into our procedures so we could die peacefully in bed one day.
@MikeBrown-ex9nh3 ай бұрын
I would think that someone accomplished enough to fly twins would remember the basics, or use a checklist.
@tungstenkid22713 ай бұрын
Why did he reduce thrust on the right engine?
@petepeterson53373 ай бұрын
This is a good place to keep the comments kind and constructive, and try to learn from the mistake. I haven't done a gear-up, but do know that sometimes good pilots make bad mistakes. I agree with the comment below about the gear being like speed breaks, that is my experience. Just like climbing out and not getting expected performance, when coming in and having trouble getting the speed down with some power, alarms should go off in our heads that we have a configuration problem; the plane isn't "just performing different today".
@gww52153 ай бұрын
As a professional pilot, 35 year instructor, and accident investigator; you get my vote for best comment. Well done!
@johnmajane37313 ай бұрын
Tried to land with the gear up. Clearly didn't perform his before landing checklist.
@uniquegiftpens3 ай бұрын
I am not a pilot, but if I were, i would install a little camera in the wheel well. I know that it would be one more thing to look at but a quick glance would tell the position of the wheels.
@thomaslembessis68033 ай бұрын
My Seneca has a convex mirror on the left engine cowling which shows the nose gear when it’s extended
@DrJohn4933 ай бұрын
Not really necessary, there are cockpit gear indicators ("three greens") that tell the pilot the gear is down, if he or she will only look.
@johnwyoder3 ай бұрын
Yeah, great idea, except that a pilot forgetting to check for 3 green indicators will also forget to check the wheel well camera.
@stuartmccoll01493 ай бұрын
Why would you even try to get airborne again?
@someonespadre3 ай бұрын
My Dad used to say there are retract pilots who have landed gear up and those who will.
@SI-lg2vp3 ай бұрын
Retractable gear airplanes have a noticeable profile with the gear down. Flying with the gear up for landing the power and pitch profile is vastly different. Most if not all retract gear planes have a warning horn when the flaps are not up and the power settings are too low to warn the pilot that the gear is not down. How any pilot could make a normal approach for landing with the gear up and ignore the warning horn is crazy. Ignore the warning horn and you will get your rewards of a gear up landing. This is why insurance rates are high for retractable airplanes. Every gear up landing impacts the insurance rates for all retract airplanes. Guess this is why they have a check list for landing. Some just can't read a check list.
@jeffpontius503 ай бұрын
Fly by the numbers! If your gear is not down and at 1800 RPM per engine, your airspeed will be way to high for landing
@rayhenderson57823 ай бұрын
Many years ago, when I first started flying complex aircraft, I looked introspectively and asked myself what I could do to avoid such situation. The answer, GUMPS. Every time. Overt the years, pilots tend to bypass the checklist. GUMPS is easy and will save you from this disaster.
@julesviolin3 ай бұрын
My Nav system announces "Check Gear" when getting low . Very simple software for as litte as £500. So far in 40 years I've always been ahead of that announcement ⚠️😎
@jameslipscomb58843 ай бұрын
Old saying: There are only two kinds of pilots, those who have landed gear up, and those who have not - yet - landed gear up.
@manifestgtr3 ай бұрын
I’m a dedicated fixed gear guy so god help us if I ever fall into the former category 🧐
@paulcantrell014513 ай бұрын
There was a funny "I learned about flying from that" where the guy made a good case that it's actually 3 kinds, those that have not, those that have, and those that have again ( he felt he had been feeling like it couldn't happen to him again, because he had already had his gear up landing ).
@jameslipscomb58843 ай бұрын
Advice to fixed-gear me from my instructor: I can see that retractable flying is in your future, so starting now do GUMPS checks in the pattern, so it is ingrained when you transition.
@ronaldluning40103 ай бұрын
Older saying; pilots that have ground looped and those that have not yet ground looped. ? how often that is true, what %?
@paulcantrell014513 ай бұрын
@@ronaldluning4010 what percentage fly taildraggers these days... Pretty low. I did see a video recently that said basically "if you fly a taildragger you WILL eventually ground loop". Not sure how true that is...
@JamieCameron-Mackintosh-z7c3 ай бұрын
And before anyone says it, no, that won't buff out... Not even with T-Cut...
@thunderbolt5133 ай бұрын
Well there goes one pilot regretting not having assured the "landing checklist complete". And I didnt state my GUMPS out loud! It`s gonna be a high bill at the end.🤐😬
@PeterStaniforth3 ай бұрын
"Is it ok if I leave it here?"
@nightwaves32033 ай бұрын
The pilots that don't make putting the gear down as a standard for slowing the aircraft down to land pay expensive repair bills.
@tangocharlie92913 ай бұрын
Facts
@johnmajane37313 ай бұрын
using the gear as a speed brake is poor form and practice.Though the Barron's gear speed is very high no need to use it like that. My Bonanza has a low gear speed of 125 mph, I have to manage my energy and plan my decent so I am slow enough to put the gear down.
@nightwaves32033 ай бұрын
@@johnmajane3731 The Baron D55 I can't recall any reason for not slowing down using the gear because you are waiting for the gear down speed after descending into the pattern or straight in. Not making it a habit is well watch the videos of gear up landings by mistake hehehe.
@johnmajane37313 ай бұрын
@@nightwaves3203 checklists avoid this issue. Using the gear to make up for poor planning is really not good form and rough on the doors.
@nightwaves32033 ай бұрын
@@johnmajane3731 Flying a twin the planning is to be slowing to gear down after slowing to gear down speeds. The gear down assures stepping down in altitude in the pattern you aren't increasing velocity much. You invote not having a stabile approach not having gear own till later in landing. Although let AI fly the plane figuring gear is only for touching down. You might of noticed faster planes deploy the gear for slow fight to be stabile which landing is or at least should be stabile during landing.
@JamieCameron-Mackintosh-z7c3 ай бұрын
"Defining event: Loss of control on ground..." Umm, well sorta on the ground AND in the air, though only by inches.
@jamesm5683 ай бұрын
Humans are not perfect and will always be prone to mistakes.
@jamesm5683 ай бұрын
@RetreadPhoto a checklist is written by humans and prone to mistakes.
@TheDAVE8583 ай бұрын
There can be alarms lights bells & whistles & rest assured someone will still fuck it up.
@paulcantrell014513 ай бұрын
I watched a guy land gear up, when the aircraft stopped sliding he jumped out and was cursing that he had meant to get the "gear not down" alarm fixed, but just hadn't gotten to it yet... 😢
@sanantonio8553 ай бұрын
There were no alarms because of his specific configuration, have you even read the text?
@shazam62743 ай бұрын
Interesting, undisciplined landing mistake. This is quite a bit more than "Hangar Rash", though. So does insurance pay the >$100k repairs in this case?
@bernieschiff59193 ай бұрын
I think insurance might total the plane and write it off. There appears to be spar damage from the wingtip strikes, as well as new engines and props and other damage we can't see. An experienced rebuild shop might buy and then re-certify the aircraft with a new N number, test fly, re-paint, and put it back on the market.
@shazam62743 ай бұрын
@@bernieschiff5919 I was more interested if they would provide coverage at all, since the pilot crashed it. If you drive a car into a concrete wall due to inattention, most insurance will not pay for the car (maybe damage to the wall due to liability, and medical bills for all, but not th car)
@dermick3 ай бұрын
@@shazam6274 Gear up landings are almost always pilot error, and yes, they do pay even if it's pilot error. Assuming you have hull damage insurance.
@shazam62743 ай бұрын
@@dermick Thanks.
@sqd37l3 ай бұрын
looks like the airframe is tweaked
@charlestoast40513 ай бұрын
Wow, what a schoolboy error. And then to bring God in, as his witness…..
@shazam62743 ай бұрын
The Almighty took the 5th on his behalf when questioned.
@shazam62743 ай бұрын
@RetreadPhoto Or asks "it depends on what the meaning of is, is"
@benparadude20283 ай бұрын
I think his coach waved him in to slide home plate……
@bernardanderson37583 ай бұрын
Sadly this has to happen to a nice B55 Baron
@donny5263 ай бұрын
That’s odd
@dobermanpac10643 ай бұрын
#1 CHECK THE CHECK LIST. #2 Read rule #1 #3 Follow the instructions on the List.
@evilload3 ай бұрын
Sir, you can't park there...
@MikeM2753 ай бұрын
Nothing to see here folks...just scraping the barnacles off the bottom....
@stealhty13 ай бұрын
Gents,,,Check list ............
@peterkinner16783 ай бұрын
Red, Blue, Green.
@gehlen523 ай бұрын
Insurance won't be covering this one.
@jamesm5683 ай бұрын
Insurance will cover it.
@cessna177flyer33 ай бұрын
Why not? They will cover it, but his rates will go up.
@michaelreilly64473 ай бұрын
...check wheels down..clear to land...wtf
@crnkin23 ай бұрын
lol insurance job written all over it
@cowboyvalley3 ай бұрын
Palm plant!
@giampierobarone82033 ай бұрын
😞
@quick65filly3 ай бұрын
So many GA accidents.
@cessna177flyer33 ай бұрын
It may seem that way, but the data says otherwise. The GA accident rate in the U.S. is at, or near, an all time low. Check out the McSpadden Report (Formally the Nall Report) for a look into the actual numbers.
@dermick3 ай бұрын
@@cessna177flyer3 Correct. The numbers are getting better every year. In the old days, very few crashes were covered, but now, every crash is covered by ten YT content creators, so it looks like there are more crashes. The good thing about all this coverage for pilots is it helps us learn another thing to avoid, and of course reminds us of things we know, like use your checklist. Humans make mistakes, and we are (mostly) all humans.
@quick65filly3 ай бұрын
@@cessna177flyer3 Love the Cardinal.
@cessna177flyer33 ай бұрын
@RetreadPhoto I recognize the irony, but the data is the data…
@StevenRichards-w2i3 ай бұрын
Bagram air field
@08turboSS3 ай бұрын
Doeant matter "how well" you know the plane, ALWAYS uae checklists and GUMPS about 3x nase to final if final is under 3 mi or on final. Juat tired of GA pilots using memory, that which should only be for emergancy checklists
@lykinsmotorsports3 ай бұрын
GUMPS
@rongreen89623 ай бұрын
Do taxpayers fund the NTSB investigations of these crashes?
@sanantonio8553 ай бұрын
Yes and?
@HTN33 ай бұрын
Did the children perish too?
@theresacaron42383 ай бұрын
I guess you didn't read the report, one person on board, the pilot, no injuries, you blind or can't you read? No passengers including children.