Crash That Had Me Questioning Mountain Biking

[@BigManBikingReconDMV-fm2pn]

5 days and over 400 comments, that's the sign of a great video. Thank you for sharing, and get well soon. I crashed in 2022 and took 6 months to heal (mostly). I didn't go to the doctor, I should have. But I wanted to keep going to work. I hope you keep riding, just risk less. I don't take to high risk anymore. I have hit trees, the gound and even hurt myself without coming off the bike. When I get to the end, I don't want to have missed things I could have done. Things I love to do. Get well soon.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks! This is simply down to all you viewers that chimed in and liked or disliked (yes KZbin - not everybody has to like everything they watched!), shared their stories, offered advice and generally contributed to the conversation in the comments. Some of these were very moving and motivating, some of them were quite harsh, some of them had absolutely horrific stories! It's definitely a great read. When it comes to risk vs reward - there will be changes when (not if) I come back to riding. This is probably a good topic for a future video 😅. Thanks for participating, thanks for the healing vibes and words of encouragement. Stay safe on the trails 👍.

[@rafaelalbertotorres8070]

I am 60+ years old and had broken ribs, a broken finger, a torn labrum, an A/C separation, stitches, and several lacerations throughout the body. Yet, I keep coming back to the trails, drops, and jumps, and have never questioned mountain biking. To me is therapy for the soul.

[@mike.thomas]

60+ gang :-)

[@BoAndHisBike]

It is indeed. And for the mind :)

[@ThisGuyRides]

Same, I didn't start doing jumps and drops until I was 55.

[@theokingshango]

thats a body painful soul therapy sir, I prefer the Herb😅

[@BoAndHisBike]

Lol

[@frankharradence5546]

I’m 77yrs, ride an Atherton AM.130, out several times a week, my bike is built to a light trail spec. Love riding my local trails, berms, rollers, rock gardens etc. know and stay within my risk limits, up my skills by being smoother, making better line choices, have great fun without the need to chase the speed or clear big jumps….its a lifestyle choice that I feel is very much worth the risk.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Frank that's really commendable. I wish I'm fit enough to do that kind of riding at that age. Respect.

[@frankharradence5546]

@@BoAndHisBike cheers, looking back I’ve had some serious injuries, 1968 at 21yrs fractured ankle jumping into Libya with 3 Para, requiring a replacement ankle joint many years later in 2014. In 2006 I was hit by a car on while on my road bike, lower leg fractures and other injuries. collar bone injury again on my road bike in 2013, my own daft fault, wet road and too fast around a mini roundabout. But had a great time in the Paras, love cycling, ride regularly off and on road (have 11 bikes including a recumbent) gives me so much pleasure along with my other love of sea kayaking. What you love doing is a part of the real you, for me not to do these thing even with the potential danger would leave a big gap in my life…anyway I’m too old to dwell on the risk….just get out on the bike(s) 😀🚵‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️

[@1brenmaster]

@@frankharradence5546 legend , proper MTB Daddy in the chat 👊

[@BoAndHisBike]

Agreed I can't think of giving it up!

[@haakonwibe9379]

Love this - hope I'm half as active as you in 30 years - really an inspiration to be sure!

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

As a 49 yr old man I have realized that whatever my skill level is now that’s the type of riding I do. I don’t push the bike to it’s limits anymore. It’s like a teenager in a fast car and a old dude like myself in a fast car. We drive differently even if our skill levels are the same. True what u say. I am a farmer and can’t afford to be injured. My animals can’t manage without me. And I have some big adventures coming up

[@BoAndHisBike]

Exactly why I gave up on jumps. Most big crashes happened to me on jumps gone wrong. Good analogy. I do feel like I adjust my riding to my age. Perhaps I need to ask one of my pals for a confirmation 😅.

[@CanItAlready]

I don't think a teenager's skill level in a car, fast or otherwise, is the same as an "old dude's", unless the old dude just learned to drive.

[@crooney82]

Yup. I ride to be fit and to ride again and to not get hurt. I don’t slide the bike around anymore or huck the bike off jumps like I did years ago

[@austinthornton3407]

Part of the "is it worth it" equation is ability. Practice matters, but some riders are just better than others, and if you start mtb in your 40's and spend all your days in an office, well your not 15 any more and the risks of downhill are going to be very high. Know yourself. Forget about impressing your mates or making up for a misspent youth. Your aim is to have fun and be able to ride the next weekend.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Well said. Fortunately I ride with people who don't care about impressing others, myself included. We ride for the pure joy of it. You've just described my lifestyle pretty well. 9-5 in front of the PC, then jump in the car and ride sketchy shit in the woods. Not even a stretch before riding (but I do karate and stretch is obviously crucial so that helps a lot). I always do a few warm up runs on the trails I know are well within my capability tho. But yeah the goal of riding the next weekend is something I will have to prioritise from now on. Thanks for the advice and leaving the comment 👍.

[@zizusaid]

@@BoAndHisBike If you do karate you should know, that if you want to "use your body" in an extreme environment for extreme stuff you should prepare it properly. Without training and extra effort as your body is getting older (weaker) you will continue to hurt/damage your self. Don't expect to be able to ride the same as before. Skill can help you over this growing gap, but eventually you will need to put in the work to be on the same level as you were. Or, you can always slow and back down :P

[@BoAndHisBike]

You are probably right. And yes having an athletic body means less injuries in case of a crash. That's just common sense. But with work, family, afterschool events, MTB and other hobbies when does one find time to do more. Maybe that's a subject for another video!🤣

[@ralphhebgen7067]

That is exactly right! Know yourself and shred within your abilities. Your shredding may be ‘tootling about’ to others, but if it is shredding to you, that all that matters.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Well said. I only compare myself to myself from a few days / weeks / years ago (main reason why this channel exists) otherwise you'll never be happy with yourself as there always be someone out there a lot better at it than you. As long as you're having fun is all that matters!

[@winnguyen443]

Heal fast bro! I’m 65 and don’t know what I’d do without mtbing, unlike other forms of exercise , when you challenge yourself skill wise on your bike , drops, jumps, turns ledge, climbing, you won’t be thinking about all the other crap that goes on in your life. It’s a mental therapy for me.

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's what mtb is for me to. An escape but also a great way to test myself. It gives me joy. I couldn't just give that up. Thanks for the healing vibes and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated 👍.

[@barraabus]

73 here, been riding bikes most of my life,and I'm still no expert. Presently riding a mountain bike on the roads..Works for me..😁

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha that's a bit of an overkill!😁 Hoping to follow suit and ride well into my seventies! 🥂

[@pchittum]

I had a tibial plateau fracture in 2022. I couldn’t walk on that leg for 3 months. Didn’t ride for 4 months. Took me a year to get back to walking without assistance. But even now I’m still building muscle mass back up after the atrophy of not using my leg for 3 months. At the time I was trying to progress to bigger and bigger drops to get to an 8-footer near by. But for a lot of the reasons you state, I am now pushing myself a lot less hard as far as progression and taking fewer risks. I know there is still a risk of injury, but I just can’t see giving up something that keeps me in shape, brings me so much joy and satisfaction, and gets me out into the fresh air. The difference is my goal has changed. Before it was progression. Now it is to still be riding when I’m 80. I would love to do a live conversation if you’re up for it.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Oh man sorry to hear that. Sounds awful. I can honestly say I'm nowhere near attacking 8 foot drops😅. Very good approach. My goal was definitely to progress to the next level until the crash. And I feel I've progressed a lot lately. But yeah perhaps thinking about longevity rather than achievement each time is the way to go. Thanks for sharing and your thoughts. Hit me up on my email address on the about page we can start a convo there 👍.

[@1brenmaster]

@@pchittum I've had similar issues. A lot of muscle atrophy after a broken tib and fib years ago. Just did the hospital physio. It wasn't enough. A couple of years later I got a good physio and a daily workout plan . 15-20 mins a day. Paid off in spades. Consistency is the key. As for healing the brain. I introduced a little skills session to every spin. Little things like picking a small berm. No brake it at a comfortable speed. Repeat endlessly. Then put a stick on the ground before it to bunny hop before no braking. Just make it fun keep it simple again it's just consistency. Trying to ride safe doesn't always work out to being safe. Some features are safer being attacked with commitment and that comes from confidence in your abilities. Return to top

[@BoAndHisBike]

Yeah some training drills during rides are great. I have been practising bunny hops while on bridleways. Does definitely help on trails.

[@pjmbrider4099]

I came off my bike, can't remember what happed, knocked myself out, came around, found my right hand pointing in the wrong direction, pulverised all the bones in my hand, my wrist was split from the hand, hand a bone graft from my hip to replace the bones in my hand, I have two titanium plates in my wrist. Sixteen stitches in my leg. Back on the bike after three months. No mental issues. I just need to get out. I was 60 when that happened, now 64 still riding.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Wow kudos to you. Must have been very painful. Hoping I can go back to some light riding to begin with in about 3 weeks time. Time will tell. Thanks for sharing your story👍.

[@danton1982]

Legend.

[@GrdenGnome]

Damn, your braver than me, kudos.

[@BoAndHisBike]

@@GrdenGnome Unfortunately a good example here when bravery doesn't always pay off 😥.

[@GrdenGnome]

​@BoAndHisBike if he's still happy riding I support that, but If it was me, I'd stick to bike touring and never go near a trail again. Braver than me for sure 👌

[@peterokeeffe8307]

I am 62 yrs old and love my mountain biking. I am not a speed demon though and don't look for the features to jump or drop over. I like just riding and enjoying being out there in the natural enviroment. Treat it as a leisure activity and not waiting for that next challenge and you will still get a hell of a lot out of it. Great times!!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Being with nature is definitely a part of riding that I really enjoy. Thanks for sharing!

[@uffejohansen4315]

47 here and only 4 years on my mtb. I enjoy solitude and ride alone. I don't want to risk crashing and lying alone in the forrest for god knows how long. I challenge myself going uphill and downhill I use my brakes.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Yeah, riding on your own adds another level of risk to the game. I got to say I rarely ride on my won these days. This was one of those rides where I was off the bike for a couple of weeks because of being away so I was eager to go a for a quick ride. Probably should have stayed at home that day 😢.

[@patrickh4540]

Same here. I am 60, riding alone, enjoying the outdoors. I don't take risks. No drops or jumps for me. Just riding at my own pace and abilities. But hey, everyone as he/she likes.

[@BoAndHisBike]

You still take some risks even by jumping on that bike tho. Quite a few comments here from people injuring themselves badly on the climbs 😉.

[@hallstewart]

That balance between enthusiasm and realism… that’s the true mastery. I get it wrong on some times too. I think one of the biggest issues with fast bikes is worse injuries. I try to ride more gently and on less gnarly trails as I get older.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Very nice way of putting it! It's definitely a skill😅. My problem is that I am finally realising I'm not a spring chicken anymore 😢. Taking it a bit more cautiously is the way to go going forward.👍

[@Cartsp70]

💯 right 👍🏾if I go bike park wales I really want to hit the ▪️▪️ trails but I did Pork Belly 🟥 and I actually found it a bit tricky so I went back on the blue trails and still had a great time, I think that’s the most important bit , not taking huge risks

[@SebastianDaniec]

46 here, 2 years of MTB. Most of my serious injuries happen when riding with other people. When riding alone i tend to be more careful. I broke my collar bone and questioned biking for a long time. But it brings me so much joy i don't know how to leave it. Instead i try to make sure to learn more, watch tutorials and talk to others. Thanks for this video, it made me aware i'm not the only one thinking about this topic.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I got to say I felt almost invincible up to this day. Unfortunately life has a tendency to punish you for being overconfident. For me it is a risk mitigation at utter importance going forward. I've ordered the long sleeve version of my padded vest and some moto shoulder inserts to upgrade these areas to level 2 of protection. Same here I don't know how I could give it up.

[@440_MTB]

I started riding pretty gnarly stuff around a year and a half ago (been riding a lot for around 3 years), and it was all fine, had a whole bunch of crashes without serious injury, road rash, scrapes, bumps and bruises... until this year. January I slid out in a berm and fractured my ribs on my left side. Was off the bike for 5 weeks and continued where I left off, even riding local enduro races, then just under 6 months after my first crash, I crashed again and slammed hard into the ground with my right shoulder, also fracturing 2 ribs on the right side, and it's now been 12 weeks, and my rotator cuff is still clicking, popping and grinding. I'm now 39 years old, with a wife and small child, I've decided to build up a hardtail (Nukeproof Scout), and am selling my Enduro bike, as the risk isn't worth it for me anymore, the pain and discomfort is one thing, but the inconvenience and time I can't spend doing my other duties as a father and husband is where the issue comes in.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I'm with you. I think this hobby consumes us and we forget about the whole world when riding. At least I do. Sounds like you thought hard before you made your decision. Hope all goes well for you. Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment 👍.

[@440_MTB]

@@BoAndHisBike For sure, when you're out there doing your thing, you forget that you have a life outside of MTB'ing, and even so, it does take a lot of time outside of riding to (as I build and work on my own bikes), constantly looking for gear and bikes, etc. Then when you crash, and have significant injuries, you quickly realize how bad the ripple effect is, and as a "weekend warrior", it's not always worth it, as I don't get anything other than enjoyment for putting my body at risk. If I started doing this 10 years ago and got some form of sponsorships, etc, it would've been a different story.

[@BoAndHisBike]

For sure. I also record and edit the footage from my rides and that takes a lot of hours for, as you described, enjoyment but nothing more than that. I'd lie if I said that this hobby hasn't affected my family life.

[@darryldavies8302]

Exactly this. I stopped about 8 years ago because I was scaring myself with near misses and the steep tech of the trails I was riding. I'm curious as to what riding you are now going to do just xc is it?. I just got a 29er hardtail myself. Am tempted to get a scout in a few months time too.

[@jamessher6956]

78 and riding Mtn bikes for 40 years with too many crashes and injuries to count. After my last crash in July I decided the end of the trail has come. Converted my bike to a gravel bike, still dangerous but much better odds.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Respectable. I think it's everyone's own decision based on their own circumstances. Glad you can still enjoy biking even if it's in a slightly different form.

[@tihomirlovric4832]

Recently I fell. It was not a bad crash but I got a scratch that gave me problems for two weeks with my family on the shore. What I got out from this: 1. I’ll buy one and elbow protection. 2. With time I’ll buy more protection if I’ll hit harder trails 3. I’ll ride trails with more gravely terrain without root and rock gardens 4. I’ll WALK through the trail if it doesn’t feel right to ride 5. I’ll enjoy the ride with less adrenaline cause I still love being in nature and in woods with or without my bike and I hope I’ll transfer that passion to kids I’m a grown up man. Family man. Cannot afford to be hospitalized for “chasing fun”

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's a good approach man. I always ride in pads however on this occasion I decided to ride without wearing my body armour🙄. Completely stupid it was. The thing is this trail isn't really that technical (it's not easy either) but in this sport you can hurt yourself on any trail and on any terrain. We have a great bike park here in Wales called Bike Park Wales and the most horrendous crashes happen on blue trails because people think it's a blue they go too fast for their abilities and have massive crashes. But reducing the risk level for a bit more safety is not a bad idea 👍.

[@musclelessfitness2045]

Just buy a gravel bike and have fun with much less risk. You can also buy a road bike, but you have to deal with a little bit of stress related to few stupid car owners.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Don't think that gravel is for me and the road is definitely not. Hate it with a passion when on my bike and have to use a bit of road to get to trails.

[@musclelessfitness2045]

@@BoAndHisBike I'm not trying to convince you, but you'll never know until you try. One day, take your mountain bike to a gravel path and give it a chance :)

[@BoAndHisBike]

I do that when I ride from home occasionally due to time constraints. There aren't any MTB trials in close proximity to where I live so ride on paths and bridleways so similar. It's ok for fitness but not much thrill in it😅.

[@giorgoszamanis6654]

I broke my left collar bone about 15 months ago, after landing on my shoulder while doing a pretty normal jump, nothing extreme there. Oh... And 4 ribs and a mild concussion.. Got into a surgery, after my ribs got healed, with a fix plate. As soon as I got my strength back and all healed I got back on my bike, but didn't had the guts to do any of this shit anymore.. Nature, woods, forests, mountains are the things that I can't live without, so I almost immediately took up the closest and safest hobby to MTB.. Trail Running..! I haven't given up on mtb yet. It's just that I have a tendency to push my self to the limit and I fear that if I do that, next surgery is on its way..

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha I feel like you described myself. I am the same. I can't let it go. But I think these crashes put us right back into our place so we learn some humility. Wishing you a full recovery so you can get back on that bike!

[@JohnMalcolm-g3h]

66 years old and I’ve been riding mountain bikes for 35 years and have had plenty of high speed lay downs. Worst was about 14 years ago and resulted in a surgical shoulder reconstruction, which had I listened to the doctor would have been the end of my riding days, instead it was six months off the bike and then slowly challenging myself with more risky things. Two things I have learned, don’t be afraid to not ride a feature if you’re not comfortable and a long travel slack angle bike makes thins a lot easier when descending. Writing this lying in bed recovering from prostate surgery but looking forward to being out in the bush soon, by the way Sydney is all sandstone so it always hurts when you go down.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sorry to hear that. Wishing you a speedy recovery. Heh crashes on that must be painful indeed! I'm going to start slow (a mellow XC ride with no so distant woods that I know like the back of my hand) and increase the challenges gradually like you suggested. Take care out there when you get back on that horse! Thanks for sharing your story 👍.

[@lkj974]

It's a serious question and deserves a serious answer. I am older than you and a rider, but not a mountain biker. I take different kinds of risks riding next to cars, navigating traffic. I have found myself being very judgmental about mountain bike riders and the risks they take, but lately have found myself reflecting on the risks I take riding in and around traffic. There are common elements: A need to make split second decisions, heavy consequences for bad decisions, a lack of total control of the risks we are taking. I can't control the car drivers who could end my life or cripple me in an instant. You can't control trail conditions. I would say there are some additional elements of risk in mountain biking, but the ones I have listed are enough to get on with. I recent developed an inner ear problem that may end my ability to ride at all. Or perhaps I will only be able to ride in very controlled conditions. This is a huge loss to me. But if I can't hold a straight line, if unexpected movement in my peripheral field of view makes me startle and lose my balance obviously I can't ride next to traffic. I don't know yet what my outcome is going to be but I am very concerned about it. If I can't ride anymore it will be a great loss for my mental and physical health. I will have to try substitutes, but it won't be what I really want to do. Your situation maybe isn't as dire. I will say that I have had to have both shoulders rebuilt and I know from experience that shoulders heal slowly. But you could damage any part of your body irreversibly. Worst case you could die or become paralyzed. I mean, you are whizzing along at 20+ miles per hour and you are surrounded by trees on either side waiting to catch you if you go flying. Human bodies weren't designed for that. And what would your family do without you or what if you were still there, but unable to provide? Is it worth it? Because that really is a possible outcome. Anyway, just a thought. Hope you stay safe, whatever you decide.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for posting your really well thought through comment. You raise some great points. I'm not sure now whether I'm doing a disservice to myself by engaging with this great community in the comments! The more I digest the comments, the more risk I see and the more outcomes that you describe I picture. It's a hard one for sure. From the other hand I don't see what I can substitute mountain biking with. Nothing comes close for me (maybe except snowboarding but that's even more injury prone 😅). Sitting on a sofa isn't a solution either. I've been doing karate, swimming and even started to kick a ball about but I just don't get the same level of satisfaction. Thanks for taking the time to share and I hope your health will allow you to continue to ride 👍.

[@schlinkodonkofink]

I’m 50 years old, and learning the hard way my body is not what it used to be. But it’s good to be out on a bike, and I do it for the enjoyment though I’ve had to get back to that space. On the afternoon of New Years Eve (2023/24) I went for an “easy” MTB ride on a local service trail (“fire trail” here in Australia) I’d never done. I’d had my MTB for two months. I slowed at the top of a very step descent with berms, told myself to take it controlled and easy, then my brain must have stopped, cuz the next thing I remember is going way too fast and way OTB. Spent five days in hospital. Fractured pelvis, fractured scapula, broken wrist, collapsed lung. Three weeks later, my thumb tendon ruptured. Sucks. Now have a titanium plate permanently in my left wrist. And just four weeks ago had tendon repaired (re-routed a tendon from index finger to thumb). I got back on the bike ~six weeks after my NYE OTB. Easy trail, easy roads. Not far. Took a good while for confidence to build. There were a couple of weeks in there that I felt pretty down. Tried to get out to do some slow walks instead. I have to be content to ride genuinely for my own enjoyment, within my own skill limitations. If that means walking my bike over/around something, so be it. I’ll also be doing a couple of MTB skills courses in the next couple of months. Because I might have limitations, but not too proud to try and get better ;-)

[@BoAndHisBike]

Oh dear God. Must have been traumatic for you. Hope you fully recovered? Yes taking it easy is sensible after such serious injuries. I'll see what my mental state will be when I hit the trails again. Thanks for sharing your story and taking the time to post this comment! Much appreciated 👍.

[@cyclyst]

Make sure that your bike has the best brakes. It's an amazing thing how well the bike handles downhill when your brakes always work (unless your on super steeps but you still want the best brakes). Only 4 pot brakes if you have any real hills..even then, some brakes don't work well. I'm Shimano 100% but there are lots of great choices.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I ride hope tech 4 v4 and the difference between these and the stock brakes (SRAM guide re) is night and day!

[@oakfordjoinery9487]

Hi Bo , yes good video and good question . I’m 60 and been on mtb for 10 years . I’ve had lots of crashes but nothing bad yet . The most painful one was doing 5 mph and hit my head and shoulder hard . So no you don’t need to be going fast to hurt yourself . I’m also self employed so if I injure myself I have no income . For me the buzz of riding downhill is still worth the risk .

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi John. Yours is another example where the crash doesn't have to be specular to suffer a bad injury. In circumstances as yours is prudent to be extra careful and do a proper risk assessment of the trails / features you're attempting. The enjoyment is definitely linked to exposing yourself to a certain amount of risk and nothing else really come close in terms of satisfaction, at least for me, however I will definitely be changing my approach to riding going forward. Thanks for sharing and taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@BobbayJ]

Over the last four years I’ve moved my riding style from “trail” to freeride and downhill, mostly out of boredom. I’ve been asking myself the same question after my latest injury. I’ve blown my knee apart (ACL and anteriolateral ligament surgery), smashed my chin off of a tree (stitches), dislocated my shoulder (torn bicep tendon sheathe but quick recovery) and about a month ago went OTB and broke my nose, gashed between my eyes (stitches) and broke my neck (stable c5 compression fracture, no neurological involvement). I don’t plan on quitting MTB.. I’ve been in it too long and love it too much, but I’ll be wearing more protective gear and taking less risks going forward. The neck woke me up, especially because it happened on a feature that I’ve done a bunch of times… but that’s what gets you. Good luck with your recovery.. it goes by fast!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks man. That's very encouraging! After what sounds like a very traumatic experience not quitting mtb is commendable. Yeah when you get too cocky on the familiar trails you get punished. Lesson learned. Thanks for the healing vibes and appreciate you leaving a comment 👍.

[@shawnhowland8633]

I have been thinking the same about risk/reward with mtb. Had only a Wrist fracture thus far over my few seasons riding. No other major injuries, but tons of bad falls, endos. Tons of rock where I ride in MA. Most of my falls are onto rocks as thats where the drop offs, steeps, etc. always seem to be. but i wear a helmut, knee, hip, and wrist pads, padded backpack that somehow keep me safe enough. The pads do give me a bit of a false sense of security though. Definitely progressing. But at age 57, i cross train, mainly lift alot of free weights and run 5 days a week. That training has hugely decreased fatigue and shortness of breath on the trails which gives me way more focus and attention when riding to decrease mistakes and foolish attempts at hard lines when fatigued or winded which is a recipe for injury

[@BoAndHisBike]

Good stuff. I do karate as well and the stretching required does help with riding a lot I found. A lot more manoeuvrability on the bike since I started training.

[@shawnhowland8633]

@@BoAndHisBike yea I started stretching 3 months ago and man it feels great the more I do. Cannot tell yet if it is helping with athletic stuff but I assume it is

[@BoAndHisBike]

It definitely helps. Maybe not right away but I can tell the difference after doing it regularly for a longer period of time.

[@Dj_Akey]

Im 50 years old and got my first trail bike ever, i ll never risk heavy crashes, first, i go for exploring nature, driving only as fast as i can control it. But thats fun too, and the skills will grow... ❤Greetings from Germany / looking - watching-maintaining that beautiful bikes of nowerdays is the next i enjoy, never had this in the 90's/80's and before, so i enjoy every look and drive😊

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's never too late to start 😉. I've only started riding since covid. Bikes these days are an amazing bit of kit, especially ebikes that have progressed a lot in the last couple of years. Great you can enjoy this wonderful sport and minimise the risk! Thanks for leaving a comment 👍.

[@stevehague3836]

I've had a few crashes that took me off the bike for awhile, but I have never given up on mtb ing . It's one of those things that defines you and makes you a better more determined person who never throws in the towel. Heal quickly my friend and ride on !

[@BoAndHisBike]

Couldn't agree more. Already feeling not myself after being only 3 weeks off the bike 😢. Thanks for the healing vibes, the words of encouragement and for taking the time to leave a comme!👍

[@HrvojeMihajlic]

I had the exact same situation last fall. I dislocated my shoulder and had to have surgery. I recovered 100% in less than six months and during that time people asked me if I was afraid of mountain biking now? I replied to all of the exact same thing: "It's not news to me that I can fall off my bike and injure myself pretty badly. I feel a slight fear every time I sit on a bike. But my only real fear is to not ride a bike again.". Hope you recover soon!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great point. Fear is partly what makes MTB fun😅. Sounds like you've been determined to get on the bike asap! I think that helps recovery tremendously! Thanks for the healing vibes and taking the time to share your story 👍.

[@Tosterrrr]

I am around 40. This spring I got back on my bikes after a break of almost 10 years. The first few days were rather tough, but it reminded me of what I loved so much about MTB and riding in general. By the end of the first month, I felt a bit more confident. I rode more and more, faster, chose more difficult routes, and there were times when, after getting off the trail, I wondered what was wrong with me that I was doing things that at my age are no longer as safe as they were 20 years ago ;) And then an accident happened.... On my way home, on a level, straight bike lane between the forest I ride in and my house (which is unparalleled safer than the trails I frequent in the woods) Pure coincidence and a stupid situation -sand on the asphalt and an uneven curb sent me to the ER for several hours and took me out of any cycling activity for almost 2 months. I now have a few more scars and sometimes my wrist hurts, but in mid-July I got back on the bike, although I try not to do stupid things in the woods and I've let go of breaking records on Strava when I switch to the road bike ;) I try to ride at least 2-3 times a week as long as the weather is right and I have the time, and I'm slowly looking around for a new and better trail bike for next season. Regardless of where you ride - accidents are unavoidable. You have to pick yourself up, put yourself together if necessary, learn from them and get back on the bike while you can still ride and enjoy it. This is the way :)

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great comment! Love your view on riding and couldn't agree more. Can't see my life without riding in it! I've now arranged a mellow ride with a friend this Sunday so we'll see how it goes! Thanks for sharing your views and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated 👍.

[@valtteritoivonen7804]

I'm 28 years old and started mountainbiking 6 years ago. I have a special condition where my C2 and C3 vertebrae have been surgically operated, basically bolted together. This was done when I was 13 years old and all extreme sports were off the list for me because of the high risk of hurting my neck. I still decided to take the risk to start mountainbiking, but my progression style has been taking the smallest possible steps at a time. You progress faster by taking bigger risks but you can also progress very far with a slower style. I have now raced in enduro races with even a top 10 finish. Out of 6 years of riding I've only had 2-3 incidents that I can call crashes. As others have said, the risk you take is only up to you. Take less risks and progress slower, I'd say that's the only way to go for me. It's not worth it otherwise.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Very sensible and risk calculated approach. I like it! I'd say if in 6 years of riding you had 2-3 incidents then you are doing very well. Even the very good and skillful riders I ride with crash a lot more often that this. Like you said it all depends on ones approach to risk and how aggressive their riding style is. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@neciologico3449]

I started biking when I was 5. I'm now 51 and still riding. I've broken about 10 bones (including 2 vertebrae), had a concussion, a separated shoulder, and countless scrapes, bruises and sprains. After a wreck, I lose confidence. Eventually I gain it back until, inevitably, I have another wreck. That said, I don't do the things I used to do when I was younger. However, I still enjoy it immensely. The sense of freedom and independence, and the thrill of speed, all of which were there from day one, have never gone away. Some day they may disappear. Until then, I'll keep getting back on. I hope you have a speedy recovery.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I know exactly what you are talking about! All of those things is really something I don't think I can give up! Sounds like you have a huge number of injuries and still really into it as when you started out. Really inspiring to hear! Thanks for the healing vibes and cheers for taking the time to share your story 👍.

[@djmacedonas]

Had a very similar fall in 2020. I couldn’t lift my arm and walked the steeps and rode the flats about a mile out from my car. I couldn’t understand what happened. I recovered a lot with rest and PT and continued to ride, but with occasional pain. Last Fall (2023) the pain came back big time. I couldn’t sleep on my right side and would often wake up in intense pain. I went to an orthopedist and was diagnosed with a large tear of my rotator cuff (supraspinatus). I had surgery and 6 months of painful recovery and PT. Now I feel like my shoulder is almost 100% but my body and mind isn’t. I ride, but not nearly at the level I ride previously. Interestingly, I had some of my best rides and most challenging features between 2020 and 2023.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great stuff! Mental side of things is something that is the unknown for me. I am thinking of going back to riding a mellow XC next weekend and avoid temptations of 'sending it'. I've been putting a lot of effort into training with resistance bands as suggested in the comments here and that made a big improvement! Thanks for sharing your story and taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@martinshires6907]

Thanks for putting this up, and good effort for sticking the bike on the rack with one good arm. I.m 56, dislocated mine about 7 weeks back and still repairing ligament damage, but eagerly await the end of week 8 where I'm resuming downhill no matter what. Like some of the respondents on here and yourself, there's been several injuries and there is doubt when it occurs, but a few weeks later when the body starts repairing - it's a distant memory. Rest up, get fit and get back on before the summer ends - good luck.😀

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's the towbar mounted one otherwise I would have been screwed 😅. Yes I start to feel the itch now as the shoulder starts to feel like it's part of my body again. Hopefully I won't get a mental block because of this episode. Thanks for the kind words and for sharing your story 👍.

[@chickenclips]

I snapped my ACL, MCL and Meniscus JAN this year (believe it or not, going up a very steep switchback). I am only now back on the bike 9 months later. 44 years old. I ride pretty much most things like DH tracks, Reds and blacks. That being said my worst injury came from climbing at near snail pace lol. When it's your time, it's your time. Ride at 70% is my new mantra, focus on the basics and CONCENTRATE. What happens is that we get too comfy and take the sport for granted. Never ever be certain of your abilities. Take it easy and have fun.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Another example you don't need the gnar to hurt yourself. Also some great points. Concentration is a thing where I need to do some work on. Doing videos and talking to the camera while riding is great in some places but perhaps not the best idea on demanding tracks. Thanks for sharing!

[@_Rol_]

I'm 59 now, and I took part on XC races until 40. Actually I'm riding my MTB for fun, and don't push it to the limits. Additionally, I'm riding a racing bike since 3 years, with whom I want to participate on races again. I never had a serious crash with a bike.

[@mikej.3429]

47 years old. I had lot of crashes. Dislocated my shoulder three times, had a snapped sinew in my left hand. Had a crash I can't remember because of a memory loss. I went and will get back on the bikes as long as I am able to. Riding with my mates is therapy for my soul after a hard week of work!

[@BoAndHisBike]

I know the feeling. MTB has been an escape for me from grey reality for close to 5 years now and can't imagine my life without it. I used to ride alone, even at night sometimes (yes, I know 🙄😂), but now ride with friends 99% of the time. It's been therapeutic for me for sure. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@tonylulof5502]

I'm 62 and unlike my youth, I don't have 40 years left of riding. I only have 10 to 15 years left, so following several injuries and increasing recovery times, I'm taking it a bit easy and with less risk. In addition, I've got other things to enjoy like windsurfing, kayaking and going bush with my fourby.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Less risk is key. This is something I am going to pay a lot more attention to going forward: risk assessment and risk mitigation. Like you said when you injured it also affects your other hobbies (not even mentioning the normal everyday duties) so it's a double bummer. I had to have a break from practising karate for 6 weeks as I didn't want to risk contact when sparing and/or any sudden movements involving the shoulder.

[@peterborchers410]

I'm 61 and still pretty fit. I work out regularly at the gym, know how to roll properly in a fall thanks to a lifetime of sports like football and I'm a pretty good skier. I started mountain biking relatively late. Of course I'm trying to get better at it too, but I'm not as good at biking as I was at the aforementioned sports. And that's why I'm not ashamed to push my bike in places where I no longer feel comfortable or to avoid trails that are too steep. A healthy self-assessment is half the battle. I no longer have to prove anything to anyone and still have fun.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Falling skills is something I lack. It's really hard in a split second to work against your instinct like trying to extend your arms towards the ground rather than curl into a ball. I always wondered how one practices that? I've done plenty of walking away from features and still do regularly. Thanks for taking the time to share and comment 👍.

[@shwndh]

At 51 I try to ride more conservative, but a crash like that can happen at anytime. Most of the time my crashes happen when I’m tired or I’ve been off the bike for a while and jump back on. You really have to know your limits and be alert. It’s a dangerous sport

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sensible. And you are absolutely right. It is a dangerous sport! I don't understand how people can claim that it isn't. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍.

[@thomaswayout9081]

48 here, just racing a hard and technical enduro race in the alps. No signs of slowing down yet. I still work on my skills and body every day. Risk management is a factor... but the better you are, the more in the "extremes" is the actual risk zone. I do not hit everything. A few years ago i hit massive drops in the 10m+ range with my snowboard. I'm just not willing to take that risk anymore. Same on the bike. I hit nasty jumps, but if i do not "feel" something, i skip it. I don't think i have to prove anything... besides beeing and angry old man on a bike. :)

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sounds sensible. I've never hit features that size. You're right the risk of a really nasty injury when things don't go to plan on those is something to consider. I feel fulfilled with my riding and the progression level at the moment and don't feel the need to expose myself to such risks. Unfortunately at this occasion it was a small crash with big consequences (relative to my other crashes). Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the conversation 👍.

[@alfagtv100]

Like you, I'm an old fart and have suffered a similar injury which required more (too many) months of recovery. It is more than ok because we are lucky enough to keep biking, and being a man.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi there. Yes, I agree. I feel privileged to be able to ride as much as I do. It gives me a great pleasure. After 4 weeks off now unfortunately it doesn't feel like 2 months will be enough to fully recover. I get shooting pains by wearing a backpack when hiking so not sure how it's going to feel wearing a full body armour 😅. We'll see. Might give it at least another week before doing some light xc to begin with. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@Chubzic.]

I am relatively new to mountainbiking. After riding city on a cheap hardtail, I bought myself a trail full-suspension bike and started riding our local trails. But I also spent a lot of time watching Friday Fails on Pinbike and some other crash compilations. On one hand, it helps to analyze others' mistakes so you don't have to analyze them on your own. At the same time... these videos gave me some sense of fear. I am kind of scared of speed, I am scared of jumps. I don't have skills to pull them of yet, and I am a bit afraid to try any jumpy feature on our trails because none of them are for beginners. Then I realized that I am riding mostly for fun. And I usually stick to those trails that are not pushing me too hard and do not have the features I am afraid of (because of that my favourite trail of the spot is the local mini-enduro trail that has quite a variety of challenges, but none of them are jumps, and the whole trail can be ridden slow except for a few step-ups). So I just decided for myself that it does not worth risk at all if you want to have fun riding. The exception would be if I ever to become a professional and participate any serious competition (which is unlikely to happen). Don't push yourself, ride for fun.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Good stuff. Nothing wrong with that. Thanks for sharing 👍.

[@powskier]

I did the same thing last Saturday . Shoulder injury. Couldn't lift my arm and much pain. Went OTB of loose, super steep alpine terrain at Grand Targhee bike park . Body armor saved me from the worst, especially the spine protector. But I did get a headache. At 60, I thought it would take longer to heal but I'll be riding again in 3 days.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Kicking myself a lot for not wearing the body armor that day. It would have been a different story I think!

[@guylevesque5401]

A question with a different answer for everyone and perhaps the answer will change over time I broke my right arm in 3 places near my wrist about 20 month ago. A gap jump I had done about 40 times or so. Because of my past chronic pain issues my recovery was lengthy and very difficult and only after almost 18 months had I recovered completely (arm will never be 100%) During my recovery I didn’t think I was going to hit the jumps and drops that hard again but time has a way of helping you forget the pain. Especially at my age of 61. lol I am back at it and loving it but am probably wiser and more patient with my progress. All I can say is keep doing what you love because it is the best therapy available. Cheers to sending it.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Kudos to you. Yeah the way I feel after reading all your comments is 'mtb for life' baby 🤘😅. Thanks for taking the time to share your story. 👍

[@solidmactm]

Never broke a bone in my live before, mountainbiking is my live since over 20 years… and 2 years ago I experienced also my first crash with a broken shoulder in the age of 50… it had to heal by itself, just some therapy and I tried already a month later first cycling tests… there was never the question about is it worth. I still love it and I‘m still doing it, as well being alone on trails in the mountains. I know where my limit is, if I’m not feeling save, I will walk instead of risking a crash.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Good approach. Sometimes it's tricky tho as the trail conditions can make a familiar trail into a difficult one. I fell victim of this to some degree. As we rarely have such bone dry trails here in the UK I was definitely a bit too enthusiastic on the down that day. Obviously there is no excuse for not wearing the body armour at the time. Paid the price for my stupidity. Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment 👍.

[@solidmactm]

@@BoAndHisBike the funny side - I‘m a German guy living in the north of Poland now - everything is flat, just two areas here in the north of and south of Szczecin having huge elevations… in the north I had a crash with a stupid misread of our leading guy, what was leading to my crash. Already 3 crashes in total in the north here and nothing in the south part of Szczecin… but my second home is the Lake Garda, going every year many times there, like I wrote also alone and out of season… really, nothing serious happened there in the last 15 years. I saw a lot of helicopters in all those years… in this alpine areas you have to know your limit!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha I'm Polish living in the UK. I have an aunt in Szczecin but never knew there were trails there as I also thought it was pretty flat. Just before the crash I've been on holiday in Switzerland and rode a couple of times in Laax (Runca and Nagens trails). Yeah it definitely opened my eyes. These weren't particularly difficult but if you come off and fall to the side on some sections you're done for. I was taking it VERY easy as I was on a borrowed bike and on my own (not very clever I know).

[@jeromep4148]

I am 68 yrs old. I had 2 bad motorcycle accidents and 1 bad MTB accident in my 20’s and 30’s. I went a long time unscathed (because I was a bit more conservative) but three weeks ago, I cracked 3 ribs. I am generally fairly good at wearing protective gear, and my recent crash is making me step it up. I also just signed up with a skills coach, so I am looking to up my game from a skill perspective as well. In your video it’s is hard to tell how steep the terrain is, or how fast you were going, but each time you hit a jump there was a lot of time before your tires landed, so I am guessing you are really cooking. My only suggestion is consider wearing more protective armor and keep doing what you are doing!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi there. Yeah GoPro never does the trails justice unfortunately. They're not the steepest and gnarliest of trails bit they're far from mellow either. I think it's mainly the very loose conditions that surprised me. And yes, on this occasion I wasn't wearing my protective vest which was a stupid mistake 🤡. Really good points and yeah time to look at the gear again however I feel if I had my vest on the shoulder pad would have taken most of the impact. Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment 👍.

[@simonfunwithtrains1572]

As a lifelong cyclist I did try mountain biking in the late1970s after spending all my time on road bikes I've never been scared descending on a road bike only on a mountain bike, so it didn't last very long before I stopped or an accident made the discission for me.. Maybe that's the answer, I still love my cycling and never intend to stop riding, but only ever on the tarmac.

[@BoAndHisBike]

The road is not for me but as long as it makes you happy it's all that matters!

[@davetbassbos]

Progressing is part of the sport, but so is just flowing along and enjoying the trails, I've definitely switched to the later as I got older!

[@BoAndHisBike]

There is definitely nothing wrong with that!

[@richardwolf6269]

71 and mostly mountain bike. Hardly crash and mostly ride alone. Did tour divide, AZT and lots of other bikepacking. Don’t ride faster than my comfort level. Might crash out tomorrow but it’s a game of calculated risks. For those who crash a lot time to rethink your priorities. My goal is to always be able to ride tomorrow!

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's a good goal!

[@dude770725]

I've been freeriding and diwnhilling in parks until short after my 2nd child was born when I was 38. I've broken and shattered my right hand and had an external metal construction for more than 3 months. I'm self-employed and if don't go to work, I not earn money - not any money. So, I've stopped since then driving bike parks and I miss it desperately! Started this year again with a bit more than just driving on bike lanes with my family. But I won't push it anywhere again!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Makes sense to be sensible in your situation dude. I'll be taking caution when I eventually get back to it. I started swimming and felt quite a bit of resistance in the shoulder so I will need to be careful getting back to it. Thanks for sharing your story and taking the time to leave your comment 👍.

[@rudolfviljoen5188]

I’ve broken both wrists, femur, AC, joint and some other injuries in between over various crashes. Also in my 40’s and can’t live without mountain biking. If riding doesn’t kill me, I’ll die because of not riding.

[@BoAndHisBike]

💪

[@davidross8709]

Broken ribs, collar bone, toes, etc. Never thought about stopping, at 47 I still enjoy it. I ride with some guys who have had worse injuries than me and they still ride regularly. Get back on the bike, stay cautious, after 3 months of riding your confidence will return and it would seem your injury was years ago. Heal up man, stay safe, good vid 🚴👌

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi David. I'd appreciate you reaching out with the words of encouragement. Thanks a lot 👍.

[@peterweldon1952]

I’m 57,an average mtb’r with a broken leg in Morzine, an impact hernia at Hamsterley, many bloodied body parts in pretty much every place I’ve ever been, but never once did I ever think about giving up. Keep the faith dude 🤕

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for the words of encouragement and taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate it👍.

[@cyclyst]

After readi g lots of comments, im sure glad i got into mtb when i was a bit younger. The time it takes to get real good is an issue with older folks. There will be injuries in that time period, especially if you have the desire to shred. Good luck to you all, the key is to ride a ton and not just the tough stuff. Tons of easy miles builds muscle memory. Bit you have to practice the skills parts alot if you want to stay uninjured. Keep riding, just keep it within your capabilities and do enjoy!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Yes I wish I started riding earlier but in my case better late than never! Definitely the case here to take it down a notch and go easier on progression. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the conversation 👍.

[@raisingachampion8693]

Sometimes bad injuries happen with seemingly nothing. I once broke both bones on my lower arm by simply sticking a ski pole to the ground while going downhill at around 30kmph. I didn't even crash or fall. Took 4 months to fully recover.

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's an interesting scenario. Must have been very annoying considering you haven't even crashed! Glad you fully recovered from that injury. Thanks for leaving a comment 👍.

[@raisingachampion8693]

@@BoAndHisBike Yeah, it was a surreal experience. No idea why it happened. Perhaps a combination of speed, recoil and a bad angle. Luckily this was my one and only broken bones accident in 40 years. How you are doing? Recovering well I hope.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I've been doing resistance bands training and that in a space of a few days has had great effect. Pain is slowly going away and getting to full strength slowly. Thinking of doing a mild XC ride this coming weekend.

[@ohcrikey-bd6dr]

The older you get the more it hurts. Im 60. When out running in the woods i tripped on a tree root. I hit the dirt. I was just lying there unable to comprehend just how much it hurt. Shit my body was hurting like helll for a minute.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Exactly. Your example just tells us that you don't really need to participate in what is considered a "dangerous" sport to hurt yourself. Hope you're ok.

[@solaris8118]

I understand that it hurts physically and mentally when you crash but riding is a rush and a challenge you don't get with many other activities. I am over 60 and have broken several bones and torn lots of ligaments and muscles but I keep going back. You might consider wearing more padding and learning how to roll tho as you will most likely keep crashing if you keep challenging yourself. I don't ride as hard as I used to but I will never give up! Never give up!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha I admire your attitude! Gear review is definitely in order for me. That's a subject for another video! 😅 Thanks for leaving a comment 👍.

[@BucketOfCrust]

I've done both shoulders in the space of 2 years. Second one had me in the same position, just getting up from the fall and knowing the next few months I'd be in pain and slowly rehabing. Truth was, I'm the same as yourself. Being in the woods and shredding is the only exercise I enjoy. Love especially long rides out into the bushland. Just nothing like it. Make sure you stick to the stretches they give you and my main tip: get some resistance bands. Only started really feeling good then, even after a year with also starting to lift weights again in that time. The bands made it all feel together again. Rest up!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for the tips. Somebody else here also suggested resistance bands so I'll get some. Can't wait to get on the bike already!😢. Thanks for encouragement and taking the time to comment 👍.

[@ijathomson1462]

I can fully relate to the bit about getting the bike in the car and getting home on adrenalin. After crashing on a misjudged jump I fractured colar bone, shoulder blade and ribs but still managed to get the bike I'm the car and drove home . Couldn't move my arm at all later that day my wife took me in taxi to hospital. NHS dealt with it well and 10 weeks later back on the bike

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's amazing what the human body is capable of in these circumstances isn't it. Glad you've recovered and you're back on the bike! 👍.

[@Matty-B-on-an-MTB]

Great video! Watching this after having a crash myself and although not braking anything, definitely hobbled away with some good grazes and bruises, a testament to wearing good pads! Still need a week or two to recover. It won't stop me riding though once fit again, i was just unlucky and caught a drainage channel which took me down. I feel as long as you're riding within your ability, or pushing outside of your ability respectfully, all is okay. You won't learn by not pushing, but there's no harm in keeping something in reserve. Remembering when I was a motorcycle rider, someone said to me there was still 5mm of barely used tyre at the edge of my rear tyre, known as a chicken strip! I said its not a chicken strip - its my reserve! its always good to have 5mm, or 5% left in the bank for the "oh no" moment! Speedy recovery to you! And am i right in saying that was one of the OP's at Cannock? Looks familiar!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks Matty. I agree with the sentiment completely. It's best not to ride at the very limit of your ability as this is when the big crashes happen. This was not the case though (or at least I thought it wasn't 😅). I am actually looking at buying a different body armour now. I am working on a 'safety gear review' video and whether it's up to the job (not sure my body armour is up to the job now to be fair). Thanks for the healing vibes! And yes, the crash happened on one of the OP trails at Cannock. This one is called 'Run away Monkey' on Strava I believe. Appreciate you leaving a comment with your feedback 👍.

[@Matty-B-on-an-MTB]

@@BoAndHisBike I absolutely agree this didn't look like a big crash, but that jolt when you hit the water drain, or whatever it was, was enough to put all your bodyweight through your shoulder with a hell of a lot of force! I almost felt it pop myself! You were just unlucky on this occasion. I don't think a different body armour would actually help for this kind of injury, it was impact at a funny angle? My body armour served me well in my fall, although my main injury is a graze on my thigh where armour doesn't cover and a twisted leg, which armour wouldn't have stopped. We play these games and we know the risks! Personally, if I know I'm heading for a crash (and I know you don't always get warning!) I try and aim for the softest landing, rather than fight the crash, relax and simply let go. Again from motorbike experience if you fight it, you're stiff when you eventually hit the floor, which is worse. If you can relax and keep your arms tucked, or at least try to slide off the bike, it jolts you around less. This has worked on Stile Cop a couple of times, once on Ridge Run when I got stuck in a rut and couldn't get out, saw some grass and just "went for a lie down"!😂 When I fell this time though, I had no idea why until I watched the GoPro footage back, which goes to show sometimes it just happens so fast! Catch you on the trails, and look forward to your armour review, I've just ordered new elbow pads after my FOX pads did their job!🚑

[@BoAndHisBike]

You are probably right although the shoulder pad would have taken the majority of impact I feel. Where I hit the ground is the centre of the shoulder pad on my light troy lee design padded shirt (I wasn't wearing it when I i crashed🙄). I just want to check that these pads are actually something that is strong enough as looking at some newer gear it seems the technology has moved on a bit since I got it. I am looking at the light Leat body armour currently. Probably a bit hotter but the padding looks decent. After the crash I think I rather be hot and sweaty. And you are right. You can't protect yourself from every crash but I'm looking at minimizing the risk of a major injury. Thanks again for the convo and see you on the trails!

[@Matty-B-on-an-MTB]

@@BoAndHisBike ah I see, I thought it was the shock up your arm from the initial impact when you were still holding the bars, not when you actually touched down! I was just looking at a body armour set with shoulders included, I don't have shoulder pads ATM, but now I've seen this! Like the look of the one peace sets, chest back arms and shoulders, almost like Motocross kit!

[@BoAndHisBike]

I'm looking at Leatt 3DF AirFit Lite Evo currently. It seems to have a lot of good reviews and a lot better shoulder pads than troy lee shirt.

[@thomascoppo1217]

I just came across your video and I think you brought up something that all of us as active older adults need to deal with. I’m in my late 50’s and pride myself on my fitness level and take great offense to the term “dad bod”. I started mountain biking, primarily trail riding and some downhill about 10 years ago-my injuries have been limited because I have realized , as you have, that I will create a burden for my family if I become seriously injured. The fitness gains of mountain biking outweigh the risks -- to an extent - know your limitations and “ stay in your lane” and both of us will be mountain biking into our 80’s

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi there. Thanks for the words of encouragement! Definitely something I needed. And, yes I'll be taking a slightly different approach to riding: ride to live another day. There's a some tweaks I want to do going forward to like you said make you sure I ride well into my 70s or perhaps even 80s. Thinking about the next video idea and some of your comments gave me some really great insights. Thanks for taking the time to give your advice and leave a comment 👍.

[@2011DJA]

I'm 55 and did ta very similar thing. Silly crash, landed on my shoulder. Like you I felt it was dislocated. Turned out to be a ruptured AC Joint. Had to walk out and like you the adrenaline helped me get the bike in the car and drive home. Was out of action on the bike for 2 months. Couldn't wait to get back on and then I did it was soooo good. But I dial it back a bit now. You have push yourself just be careful how far. Gotta anjoy life.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sounds very similar to my experience. I go from 'can't wait to get back' to overthinking it! I will definitely start (or rather restart) small and see how I get on. The whole idea of pushing myself and achieving new levels whether it being a new bigger drop, clearing a new jump or simply moving up on Strava's segments was something that motivated me a lot and gave me a lot of pleasure. Can't see giving it up after reading all of the encouraging comments on here! Thanks for feedback, thanks for sharing and ride safe (well, as safe as possible) 😁 👍.

[@stephenbrown3760]

I think the benefits of riding greatly outweigh the negatives or risk, as we age we need to keep moving, also if you gave up riding what would you replace it with? You need the cardio, the solitude, and the mental health benefits that you gain from riding, sense of wellness after a ride and the little bit of adrenaline. I separated my shoulder four years ago and it got better, took some time but I never thought of giving it up. I’m 52 now

[@BoAndHisBike]

Well said. I'm sure you are right. I have always been a sporty active person so the idea of just wasting in front of the telly is alien to me. To be fair I don't think I could replace MTB with anything else. The only thing that was anywhere close in terms of enjoyment and thrill factor was snowboarding but I gave that up in order to be able to ride as it was killing my knees. Thanks for the advice and leaving your feedback 👍.

[@peteypops]

Makes sense…after a few crashes, travelling solo, knocked myself out on a small jump and not being able to remember what mistake I had made, I decided to stop mtb, at the age of 76. However…..I did go again with my grandson…ooops…I soon realised I shouldn’t have gone down the usual trails with the young riders…reactions, sight and recovery were not good…I’ll stick to kayaking, but will forgo the whitewater!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha kudos for being so active regardless. I've done some kayaking on my holiday last year and enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing and leaving the comment 👍.

[@RichardWagenknecht]

I've injured ribs so many times I've lost count. Lost skin, bruises are just part of it. Did have a crash that put me in the hospital for 4 days and took 8 weeks off work to heal up. But I did get some permanent metal in my body! Still riding. I love it.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Inspiring stuff. It's great to hear from like minded people about their experiences and listen to their advice. It's been a great experience with this video and all the interactions that came off it! These are the kind of people I made friends with riding sketchy stuff in the woods (maybe with a few exceptions😅)! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍. Much appreciated.

[@Astro_Shed]

This happened to me recently too, the silliest simple crash I ever had, and the worst injuries, badly bruised ribs, numerous bad bruises and shattered confidence, it’s really slowed me down, I am 59 years old too…👍🏻

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah those silly ones are the really frustrating ones aren't they. Hope you fully recovered and working on building your confidence back 👍.

[@elgatodh_engineering7712]

we all have these bad times, getting old make injuries more difficult to deal with. Quit is not a question for others, it is something to yourself: I'm able to deal my life without riding bikes? Should i change the way I'm riding? What else I'm going to do instead of riding bikes? I'm just tired of get hurt? You always could return. But you can't recover the lost time out of the bike, life it is about experiences and suffering is part of. Suffering it is part of biking. Good luck and be strong.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Yes, definitely an individual choice. I'm sure I'll be back. Just focusing on recovery for the time being. Thanks for the motivation and your thoughts on the subject 👍.

[@pickup000]

Whatever decision makes you happy. After all the riding ive done i broke my ankle severly falling down some stairs! Ive been out on my bike today after 5 month's its much needed therapy. I can still take it steady.i have also known riders to give in after injury(collarbone)and never ridden again.

[@BoAndHisBike]

You are correct here. Very individual decision. And yes injuries can happen walking down the road!

[@przygodyzmtb]

First of all its crucial to work out whole body in the gym. Secondly I ride mostly downhill tracks and dont crash at all. Just ride in your comfort zone thats it. Also I had torn ACL in my knee and I didint have 2 months break but 1 year or rehab and still I believe this sport is a life adventure.

[@BoAndHisBike]

I'm not going to say that it's not going to help but I'm not a gym type. Been there, done that - not for me. I rather do workouts by practising other sports. But yeah it's very individual. I'm far away from an athletic body and I'm not denying it would definitely help in the crash. I do ride within my abilities or slightly outside my comfort zone as imo that's the way to progress in any sport. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@MinskUK]

At 55, I broke my clavicle when I rotated into the ground on what was a straightforward left hander, even though I was pushing. What I missed was the rut that gave me air during the turn rag dolling me into the ground. It was 6 months before I could ride again. What did I learn? Bike helmets that perch on your head are rubbish in these situations. If you are ‘properly’ mountain biking ( which at this point I’d been doing since my twenties), wear a full face. It only takes a few sessions to get use to it. After the impact, my challenge as I skidded across the ground was to stop my face rotating into to dirt, root, stones and gravel. Wear under top armour. I might have got away with bruising. Despite assurances, being able to stretch your arm above your head is not an indicator that you haven’t broken something. That cracking noise, extreme pain and adrenaline release suggested I did. I’m 60 now and it still occasionally hurts, usually when I think about it. Did it stop me riding? No, mountain biking is way too much fun, but I did up the protective gear. 😊

[@BoAndHisBike]

Since coming up short on a gap jump and landing face first into brambles I now always wear a full face helmet. I was lucky to only cut up my face a bit. They are so light and have good ventilation these days that there is no point in compromising on the head protection imo. On top of that you are preventing a potentially very expensive trip to the dentist 😅. Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment 👍.

[@kimbogreen69]

Im 57, sent it without a track check now nearly 8 weeks into 3 busted ribs and sternum , healed up now, can’t wait to get back on it but going to wait another month before riding. Don’t want to jeopardise getting back on it😜

[@BoAndHisBike]

Hi Kim. Sorry to hear that. I'm in the same boat. 4 weeks off and it still doesn't feel right. Don't think I can put all the gear on and ride with confidence just yet. Might give it another week at least. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@cdrbrnr]

I crashed hard at a resort. Frozen shoulder as a result. Physiotherapy got me going in the right direction. After that, I went back to the gym with the strategy of getting back to the weight I was years ago. I accept that I want to ride like an athlete, so I have to train like one. My body fat is now as low as it has ever been. The muscle mass is back. My flexibility is also back. Most importantly, I can fall like I once did also. As a result, my riding progression is also increasing. Then it happened. Full send on a jump line, OTB. The full-face helmet did everything as designed to save me from injury. I was able to ride off the mountain and drive home. Battered and bruised. I purchased new kit that week and added a neck brace. I rode a week later, but it was too soon. I should be back this week, only 3 weeks after the crash. In comparison, the shoulder hit took me out for 8 months. Now that I am strong again I bounce back much quicker. I have no intent of quitting the sport and I am also heading for my 50's. Good luck in your journey!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks pal. Ouch, sounds painful! That's very sensible what you are saying. I gotta say my body is far from the athlete's body! And I hate bloody gyms! MTB is the main source of the exercise I do so any fitness I gain is from it. I guess I'd be a lot better off if I've had any muscles in my upper body 😅. Thanks for the support and sharing your story!👍.

[@bikestuff2207]

At 61 I broke my collarbone, jaw, and received a torn retina on a double black which I had no business riding. I didn't ride for 2 years and because I was scared of getting hurt again. I just recently got back on the bike and I'm loving it. This time I took "send it' out of my vocabulary and I purchased a electric bike to make climbs I can't do anymore possible. If mountain biking is in your blood like mine, you'll be back on that bike. Get well!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great motivation there. Thanks for the words of encouragement and for sharing and leaving a comment 👍. 'Just send it' often leads to unwanted outcomes 😅.

[@markf4968]

A healthy heart is most important. Take the rest and deal with it. Keep riding!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Cheers buddy. I'm sure I'll be back at it in no time 👍.

[@neilt4617]

Im a 54 year old farmer who has been riding for about 5 years. I go out with my son quite often who is clearing decent jumps and pushing his abilitys. I quite often think "I should be able to do that, don't be a chicken" Then my sensible brain steps in and tells me that pain sucks and injuries take a lot longer to heal these days. Basically I can't afford to be laid up recovering and would prefer a fairly safe ride whilst still having a great time. Same goes for my dirt bike riding, nowadays it's more about the exercise and the magnificent country I ride in. I put self preservation fairly high on my list.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Very sensible approach. I will need to be a lot more disciplined going forward to resist the "just send it" mentality. It really sucks being off the bike for so long!😢. It's been 5 weeks. Looking forward to coming back to riding eagerly. Thanks for taking the time to share your story 👍.

[@winjinsinjon]

I lost a lung to cancer 12 years ago i still ride but i dont do anything that could cause me to crash anymore i have tried but i can not get over the fear of you come off and crack a rib or something your screwed, riding isnt as much fun as it was but i still enjoy it.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sorry to hear about your illness. Great that you can still have some fun while on the bike. But definitely makes sense in this situation to be very cautious and adjust the riding to minimize the risk of a crash / injury. Thanks for sharing your story and leaving a comment 👍.

[@phineas44]

You're right, it didn't look that bad, but I know from experience that sometimes the seemingly small crashes can be quite serious. I had to be medivaced (helicopter) out after crashing doing a relatively small drop. And yes, I've also separated my shoulder, but that was on a bigger drop. Me and drops don't do well - my two worst crashes by far. I'm still riding, but am a bit more cautious with drops. Glad to see you're still riding.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Ouch. I consider myself lucky as I've managed to ride back to the car and drove home. Yours definitely sounds a lot worse! I'm still off the bike at the moment. Wouldn't entertain the idea of going back on it just yet😅. Thanks for sharing 👍.

[@amoore2165]

I’m 53 and a pretty solid mountain biker in skill, speed and stamina. I also regularly do motocross…imagine the question mark with that sport. I don’t even think about mountain biking but motocross on the other hand…. With both I do the best I can to say safe and healthy while still doing it at a decently high level. I think both help keep me young in fitness, reaction time, mental focus, etc. Yes I have had very major injuries in motocross. None so far in mountain biking. Luckily I work a job where I mostly just need my mind.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Same here. I'm in tech so the injury hasn't impacted me work wise. I can imagine the injuries in motocross. I do watch vids with jumps and tricks these guys are doing. Bonkers. Thanks for leaving your comment 👍.

[@robmcdermott72]

Sorry for your injuries guys. 53 yr old motocross rider here too. Mountain biking only a few times. The main observation I have is that with mountain biking, the bike is light and the rider is heavy, so when it goes wrong the rider's momentum is more likely to take them over the bars. With MX the bike weighs maybe 110kg, so it's the other way around. Then to make things worse with mountain biking, add in the trees or rocks directly in your path which means the track itself is dangerous... In my opinion MX is safer.

[@robmcdermott72]

Forgot to say, hang in there and let your body heal. Rehab is a journey. I had a 5-month recovery from PCL/MCL a couple of years ago. Hope it goes well for you.

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's an interesting observation. One thing I found since riding an ebike is the weight helps a lot with stability so what you are saying makes total sense👍.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for the healing vibes 👍

[@gaborfeher741]

Last year I had to get off the MTB bike due to a broken collarbone and two broken ribs. But I couldn't wait to get back on the bike. The recovery and strengthening of the upper body happened slowly for me, I recovered slowly. 10 months after the accident, I'm still scared on steep forest slopes, I've become much more cautious. My pace also slowed down on the slopes, because it's better to get home safely than to get down the slope quickly. The accident is the accident because anything can happen, even at low speed, but I'm careful now. Build yourself up and ride your bike, don't give up. (53 years old)

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Much appreciated. I'm sure I'll get back to it! Stay safe👍.

[@kitchencarvings4621]

I have decided that it is not worth it. I need to be able to use both hands and stand for long periods in my work. I'd lose my business if I got injured and couldn't work and then I'd have a bunch of medical bills and no income.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Understandable under your circumstances. Don't need much to break limbs in this sport!

[@shawnhowland8633]

By the way I love this topic as its top of mind every ride for me lately

[@acelectricalsecurity]

As Clint Eastwood once said, a man's got to know his limitations 🤣🤣

[@BoAndHisBike]

Love it! 🤣👌

[@michelleevans9869]

Cameras never show how bad it is. Keep going. I’m almost your age and riding e-bikes and surrons now. Add we so say THERapy 😢

[@BoAndHisBike]

They don't do they. Thanks 👍.

[@cutleo1961]

I broke one rib on each side in two different crashes. The first was a case of the front tire washing out causing me to land hard on my back when I tried to bail out. The second was in a wet rock garden when I went over the bars. The last one definitely has made me cautious in rocky terrain to the point of getting off the bike if not confident. At almost 68, avoiding injury has become a higher priority as both crashes meant months off the bike.

[@dirtyforksmtb]

Mountain biking is worth it. If you’re a mountain biker then it’s inevitable to want to conquer the next feature whatever it may be. Last season I thought, I’m good with just riding the local trails and not trying to send bigger stuff. I just love being out on the trails and it great therapy. Then this season came along and I’m right back to pushing my limits and riding tech which is my favourite riding. Mtb gets me every time. I am totally addicted to it. However, I take very calculated risks and if I don’t feel it I don’t do it period. But then in your case, it was just a matter of taking the wrong line which we’ve all been there before. I always say to my son, who rides with me, it’s always the slower techy stuff that’ll get yah. Anyway, I’ve had those thoughts of is this worth it, then I go look at my bike or look at past video footage and think, oh yeah it’s worth it!

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great stuff, really motivating! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!👍

[@daverack]

I went through a similar thing a few years back... hit a large jump with poor experience and body position and ended up OTB with a concussion. After that, I took things steady, built up my experience a lot more and i'm now tackling smaller gaps and a lot more tech with a decent amount of confidence. I don't think i'll ever properly stop MTB'ing despite the risks it comes with

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for your views and good luck with your progress. It's a great feeling conquering the features and looking back at yourself from a week / month / year ago and getting that sense of achievement.

[@bill3483]

I hear ya, I'm 66 and had a good fall last year, my shoulder took the blunt of the fall. I still don't have all my strength back and I'm not sure I ever will. I enjoy mountain biking to much to give it up, but I'm not pushing as hard anymore. If I feel uncomfortable on something, I'm passing on it.

[@BoAndHisBike]

To be fair that's exactly what I do. Some here think I "just send" everything without considering the risk for some reason 😅. Not sure how I gave that impression. What you say is a sensible thing to do and definitely my approach. However I have to admit on a few occasions my buddies talked me out of doing features they felt I wasn't ready for. Great to have friends you can ride with to give you another perspective! Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment. Hope you recover to full strength 👍.

[@Mark_Page_MTB]

I'd rather die doing something I love than live and regret never doing it. Yes, it's worth the risk. See you soon 😉

[@BoAndHisBike]

Fair play my man. 🤞

[@Franklinguy759]

Respectfully disagree. I have rode plenty hard with bikes and enduro dirt bike events. After I got banged up enough it’s was wise for me to park the bikes and do something else. Now I shoot a rifle at the international level and do very well. I actually wish i would have quit riding sooner based on my results as a marksman.

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's a personal choice. Some continue riding exposing themselves to danger again. Some quit. There is no right or wrong here imo.

[@geothelameule]

Dying is something living your life injured is an other thing. Extreme skiing is done by a lot more of old dudes than enduro for this reason. You most probably wont die riding mtb but you probably will get injured and maybe end up injured your whole life

[@Mark_Page_MTB]

@@geothelameule Thanks for such a cheery message!

[@Random.Camden]

I'm 52 and having exactly the same thoughts. Can still ride pretty hard and haven't had any major crashes/injuries. The few I have had have resulted in a few weeks off the bike (and not doing family walks and other fun stuff) and that's when I question the risk vs reward. The frustrating thing is even if you dial it back (I've stopped with the big jumps and drops now), it can be a small off like yours that does the damage. You weren't pushing too hard, or taking big risks, but you still had an off that resulted in an injury. It's tough. I'm not ready for XC/gravel biking yet, so just trying to de-risk where I can.

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's exactly it. I almost feel disappointed to have hurt myself like I did on this particular trail, in that particular style. I've had a very painful off on a blue trail at the same trail centre. I don't think there is a rule. You can hurt yourself badly on a low difficulty trail as much as you can on a fully blown gnarly black. Obviously chances of doing that are a lot higher on gnarly trails but still. I've replied somewhere on here that XC can still be fun, I still do XC rides on occasion but just sticking to XC would not work for me I don't think. I'd always be tempted to do more and without wearing appropriate gear probably hurt myself even more. Thanks for your thoughts and sharing your story 👍.

[@evilrslade]

I've been lucky with crashes over the years, i've walked away from crashes that looked terrible with nothing but a bruised ego. However, I crashed last year, it was an OTB but not at any speed really on my local loop. 4 broken ribs and shoulder ligament damage (like Bo) I couldn't sleep lying down for 2 weeks (ribs) and was in a fair bit of pain for a while too. Full recovery was nearly 3 months. It has made me re-evaluate the risks I take and at 53 now, i know i'm not going to recover quickly either. I just retain a bit more control and dial down the speed a bit.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Yeah speed was not appropriate to the conditions on that day. Too loose to be going as fast as I did, especially that section which is really cut up now. Definitely some lessons learned after this. Will have to start riding slow again to begin with so as not to risk falling on that side once I am actually able to ride again. Thanks for sharing and for leaving a comment 👍. Much appreciated.

[@daveallsop2476]

I had a crash one New Year’s Day about 4 years ago, 6 mile from home, slowest crash ever but landed on my shoulder, ended up tearing my rotator cuff and broke my humerus, took me 6 months before I could ride again, shoulder still isn’t 100% now, but I still ride and like to push myself

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's dedication Dave. I can't see myself 'taking it easy' either once I eventually get back to 100%. It's just not me. But what can be changed is the risk assessment / management aspect which sometimes is neglected I hate to admit. Thanks for sharing your story and taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@contrastprinciple4389]

Best rule of thumb, always, always, always, treat the trail as music that your learning on your guitar, then gradually ramp the difficulty. Buying into bro culture or single track sampler "looking for redemption" culture will get you hurt. Falls are part of the game, but they do not have to be massive.

[@chunkyantmtb]

Had a really stupid crash after about 6 months of riding a few years ago and had a frozen shoulder! A few months of physio and I was back to the point I could ride! For me the risk to my mental and physical health if I didn’t do MTB is worse than the possibility of crashing. Heal up dude 👍

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's a very good point you raised. I haven't really thought about it from that perspective. Would NOT riding had a more detrimental effect on my life, mental health, etc. Like I said I can't imagine quitting but when I've seen the look on my wife's s and son's face when I got back home after the crash it didn't make me feel good. It was more horrible than the pain itself. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the support 👍.

[@MTB_Trekker]

It was funny though!

[@BoAndHisBike]

I'm trying to laugh about it to be fair but then I move my shoulder... 😅

[@chunkyantmtb]

@@BoAndHisBike its amazing how much a dodgy shoulder hurts! Esp when trying to sleep at night!

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's a first for me too. I can't sleep on my back but kinda didn't have a choice. The first few nights I got up with a horrendous back pain so on top of your injury you then put more strain on other parts of your body. Nightmare.

[@benlukkie]

Had a wee scare last year when I nearly took my pinky off doing a local DH comp.. Had to come back when healed. First 2 rides were a bit skiddish, but not thinking about it anymore. Still have a tendency to check peoples hands when watching friday fails tho

[@BoAndHisBike]

lol. I am going to be looking at people's shoulders when watching those now 😅. I am very interested to see how confident I am going to be when I get back to it. Have been doing quite a bit of other activities and been training with resistance bands recently so we'll see how the constant roughness of the ground will affect the shoulder. Thinking of doing a mellow XC ride next weekend.

[@mark_hammer_simpson]

I Clumsily Came Off My Bike A Couple Of Years Ago & Broke My Wrist.. Now I'm Over Half A Century Old 😂 So Recovery Was Long & I Was Off The Bike 4/5 Months.. Couldn't Even Drive For Nearly 3 Months.. So In That Time I Did Contemplate Giving Up Riding.. My Injury Impacted My Life Away From MTBing More Than I Thought It Would.. So Imagining A More Serious Injury Really Effected Me Mentally.. But Strangely The Thought Of Not Riding Again Would Mean Giving Up What Makes Me Me.. If That Makes Sense.. I Do Ride Differently Now.. I Ride For Enjoyment & Take Each Ride As It Comes.. I'm A Subscriber On Here & Follow You On Strava.. Your Rides & Videos Personally Keep Me Motivated To Keep Riding.. Swift Recovery Lad 🙏🏼

[@BoAndHisBike]

Great to hear from you Mark! You have no idea how much it means. I do these videos mainly for myself, my family and my riding buddies as a hobby but it also allows me to check my progression which is a big part of it. I also watch when I can't go for an actual ride as it's the closest thing I can get to riding. Knowing that somebody else watches and enjoys them definitely gives me the motivation to continue. I've met a few subscribers at Cannock and Dimmo who recognised me and we've had a good chat which was great. Thanks for the kind words and if you ever want to ride Cannock give me a shout and we can meet up for a ride 👍.

[@jamisonr]

I'm another one of the newly turned 50, and wondering if all the huge slams are worth it. My last big one was May 2023, broken ribs via high side on that one. In 2024 I've only been to the trail two times, but I'm on my mountain bike every day. For most of the past year I only work on balance and maneuverability. I also do pushups and other body weight exercises at night. I can track stand for minutes now, either foot forward. My balance on the bike is better than it's ever been. It's about time for the trails again, I hope that my concentration on building my skills better will equate to less slams. I'm only interested in fast downhill, if I can't do that I'll do something else.

[@BoAndHisBike]

That's the problem with riding that even the small slams can lead to nasty injuries. I've read all the comments and some of these stories are horrendous in terms of consequences. I can definitely consider myself lucky as it could have been a lot worse! Exercise and doing other sprots helps a lot , completely agree with you. I also do karate and stretching we do as part of the training made me so much more flexible so that some of the silly little crashes I had would have been a lot more consequential if I wasn't. My track stand skills are non existent tho 😅. Still a lot of mtb skills to learn. Started really putting more effort into bunny hopping whilst on bridleways. Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment 👍. Much appreciated.

[@Craig-x6u]

Iam 60 I had the same thoughts as you similar kind of crash but I Broke my collarbone and damaged tendons,4 months later still not got full movement really frustrating only can do about 6 flat miles and it hurts like hell.iam still going to continue to mtb but knock it down a notch, reactions are just not the same .keep going but a little safer and slower, concentrate on faster climbing . Hopefully you will get better soon 👍

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sorry to hear about your injuries. Thanks for advice and kind words. I will definitely be making some adjustments after this. I am planning to start with the safety gear review, perhaps I'll make a video out of it which sounds like another interesting topic. Is the gear am wearing actually up to the job? I don't really want to be crash testing it 😅. Thanks for the healing vibes and taking the time to comment! 👍

[@andrewrivera4029]

You said it, it’s not a matter if, but when you’ll crash on an MTB. I’m 58 years young and continuously evaluate where my head is and so far there is nothing like the riding for me. I have a ranch I work on all summer living in the western US with great riding so I believe I have at least 7 good years of riding but will always make sure my passion is in what I’m doing. Once you lose the passion it’ll be time pick up basket weaving.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Haha in my initial channel intro I used the knitting reference 😂. Yes, I got to terms with that fact fairly quickly in my riding 'career' however only when you really hurt yourself you really start analysing and thinking about the potential impact of these injuries on you and those around you. But, yeah I think I can safely say I came to the conclusion that the risk is worth it. There are also ways to somewhat mitigate the risk of severe injuries and this is something I am looking at now (more protective gear, other exercise, risk / reward of attempting certain features). Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Much appreciated 👍.

[@ItsMeHammie]

I crashed on a jump. Messed up my shoulder and took me out for 3 months. I've got too many responsibilities right now so I've decided to keep riding, but I'm no longer going to pursue jump progression. Not worth it

[@BoAndHisBike]

Wise decision. I gave up on bigger jumps. I spent hours practising (a good few videos on this channel of me casing jumps 20 times in a row😅) and still not consistently behaving on the take off. And I agree that jumps have the worst risk profile in this sport.

[@Nunyaknow22]

55yr old rider here…I feel your pain my friend..I just came back from 6months off the bike for rotator cuff surgery. I was determined to comeback to ride at the level I was at prior to my surgery. Everything was going well until I was on a solo ride. I was about 3 miles away from my car when I took a small bump…it was such a slow crash that unfortunately gave me time to over compensate which caused my injury. I knew I immediately that I was hurt…I ended up fracturing my tibia plateau…so my short comeback was squashed…I am about 8 weeks out from my crash…luckily for me surgery was not needed, but I have to be off the leg for another month. Is this going to deter me from riding? I don’t think so, I feel that this has made me more aware of what can happen. I feel sometimes I get to comfortable in my riding that I forget that there is a potential of injury and I sometime get careless. I hope you heal up quickly….don’t question if you will MTB again…I always say to myself, crashes and falls happen it’s a part of the sport. We live to ride.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Yeah definitely some lessons learned out of this crash and many comments here. Current state of mind: now the main pain has gone away I start to feel the itch. Currently away camping trying to do hiking as not in a position to do anything requiring putting weight on the left side of my body. Hopefully the time away will be beneficial mentally as well. Thanks for sharing your story and taking the time to leave a comment 👍.

[@garygilbert1127]

done my shoulder twice, first time was catapulted off the bike and my outstreched arm stopped me going head first into a tree but dislocated my shoulder and tore my rotator cuff in the process, took 18 months to be 100% pain free but back on the bike after a couple of months albeit taking it easy for a bit, second time was last week, caught a large root I normally miss and had an uncontrolled high speed slide, I'm still unsure what really happened but at some point going down my hand made impact with the ground dislocating my shoulder, I didn't even feel it at first until I tried to get up, I stood up and popped it back in, tried to rotate my arm and it locked when raising my arm popping again, put it back in and rode gingerly home where it popped again reaching up to lock the gate........both the bike and myself are having a little rest but soon as I'm up for it I'll be back on the trails, for the record I'm 53.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sorry to hear that. I've done something similar with my knee snowboarding in the past but on this occasion I've been sensible and went to A&E to get it checked as it looked serious and nothing like injuries I've suffered in the past. Wishing you a speedy recovery!

[@ianx-cast6289]

I'm 44, my philosophy is ride by taking small risks. Eventually I will get good enough to ride features I wouldn't take on today. And, in the meantime, I will enjoy riding.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Sensible 👍

[@karlj711]

I see so many people flying around the forests now on E-bikes & going way faster than their abilities can manage. I'm 56 & more than happy to keep my skill levels under control with peddle power.

[@BoAndHisBike]

Downhill it doesn't really matter whether you are on an ebike or a manual bike. Still the similar speed and the same level of risk.

[@karlj711]

@@BoAndHisBike That wasn't really a steep downhill section though? I also question the capabilities of the brakes on some of these E-bikes. I understand their benefits particularly for the older generation but people are jumping straight onto them now before honing their abilities on a peddle powered bike. Each to their own I guess & I wish you a speedy recovery.

[@BoAndHisBike]

It's steep and loose enough I'd say. Yes, I agree in terms of stopping there is a difference but not to any significant extent. Unless you are saying all ebikers are fat compared to manual mountain bikers 😂. I definitely agree that there are a lot more 'casual bikers' on ebikes these days as they opened a lot of doors for people who otherwise wouldn't be out on a bike but from what I'm seeing and where I am riding it's a minority. I know quite a few of really good riders in their late 20s / early 30s on ebikes because it's simply more fun for them and they can ride for a lot longer. Thanks for sharing your views and thank you for the healing vibes👍.