Reminds me of how we still apply the great artist myth to collaborative mediums like movies and television. Often the director or show runner is solely credited as the genius behind them despite hundreds of people being involved in the making and production of them.
@funkymunky8 ай бұрын
This. I make a point of adding "and crew" after every director's name I drop in casual conversation. It's delicate. But potent.
@kedartondare8 ай бұрын
Allow me to elaborate why directors and TV runners get credited for what they do, No doubt it's a collaborative medium nevertheless you cannot call the essence of the films and TV concepts as collaborative, sure the involvement could be present of others but it's only limited to the understanding of its idea. Not necessarily the cast and crew should take part, besides playing the mere part that they have been attributed with. It's as if asking the construction workers should also be given credit for developing the idea of a beautiful architecture, no it's the architect and the engineer who solely reserves the right of credit for developing that idea, surely the construction workers will earn credit for their exceptional work attribution. 😊
@ilikestuff82188 ай бұрын
I mean same thing with scientists.
@locksmith60968 ай бұрын
Same thing with pop artists and CEOs of big companies
@johnhagan-zr4pm8 ай бұрын
In times past, the director or producer was the driving force behind the film e.g Francis Ford Coppola remortgaged his house to produce Apocalypse Now Selznick had a huge input in producing films that faithfully copied classic books e.g. Gone With The Wind Ken Russell films Ingmar Bergman films Jean Luc Goddard films Woody Allen films The list goes on and on Of course untalented people like to think that they can do the same as these people But why don't they ? Nowadays films are made by Committees or Bankers or Political Groups Hollywood is dying and being replaced by new media.
@Beryllahawk8 ай бұрын
All through this I kept recalling something I saw over on the Art Assignment, a video clip where a woman was saying "Art must be beautiful, Artist must be beautiful." That moment really stuck with me as a kind of condensation of this myth of the great artist. Especially because it REALLY hammers home the need to question the truth and usefulness of that myth. Which, not so incidentally, is why I started taking my fiction writing a hell of a lot more seriously.
@Surax8 ай бұрын
7:15, the AGO in Toronto currently has an exhibit of women artists in Europe from 1400-1800. On till July 1, 2024, it showcases all the ways women made their mark in the art world at the time.
@justforplaylists8 ай бұрын
Oh, thanks, I'll be in town before then, I'll have to check it out.
@lhfirex8 ай бұрын
What I find pretty interesting is, I saw plenty of great artists in museums when I lived in Japan. That's a culture that doesn't really praise individuals compared to collectives, and yet they still treat their art history/criticism the same way a lot of Europeans do. I don't know if that's because Japan adopted a lot of the Western (for lack of a better term) approaches to education and intellectual pursuits, so they decided to present things that way, or if they thought Hokusai and others were great individual artists back in their time as well.
@EayuProuxm8 ай бұрын
4:17 Tangential, but those babies are hella buff. They need to drop the workout routine.
@melodyplatz31598 ай бұрын
I am loving this Crashcourse series! Thank you!
@andybearchan8 ай бұрын
I was watching another yt video about the invention of the guitar. There wasn't one person who made a guitar one day. There were ouds, lutes, mandors, and gitterns. But this was NOT a march of progress change. The style of music changed, who made music change, and the cost and types of materials changed. We have the guitar the way it is now because it suits our current musical tastes and is an affordable approachable instrument. Maybe the future popular artists will be a type of art that computers can't copy.
@DomyTheMad4208 ай бұрын
all this info and i'm just jiddy i learned the etymological source of "masterwork"
@juliusjoosteofficial8 ай бұрын
I'd like to learn more about the narrative they mention at 08:09 about the Greek myth of the potter's daughter and her charcoal drawing of her lover's shadow. Where can I read more about it? I can't seem to find any reference in the Sources document.
@jn2618 ай бұрын
there's a little background info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butades
@isacami258 ай бұрын
this is such an interesting take on how "great" artists are made
@kts89007 ай бұрын
Sarah I love the educational content you make. You walk the line of content, joke, and relatability. I missed you since the Art Assignment.
@Gabe123306 ай бұрын
This is the best art history video I've ever seen 7:44
@monicareid88588 ай бұрын
Loving this series. I took Art History many years ago. This is a VERY different take!
@maldaror70978 ай бұрын
What makes an artist great is the artist, what makes an artist significant is being noticed.
@MohammadAhmad-fi3pt8 ай бұрын
that's just it!
@michaelbuelow92758 ай бұрын
"... Chicken nugget of genius ..." made me laugh!
@Megalesios8 ай бұрын
Hoping to hear about Picasso, Dali and Warhol in the next episode!
@Allovimo8 ай бұрын
I am so enjoying this!
@pongop2 ай бұрын
Interesting! The Great Artist myth reminds me of Great Man history that John Green discusses and critiques. I see it all developing alongside and as part of the rise of individualism with the scientific revolution, the enlightenment, colonialism, etc. And with both history and art, the more perspectives and stories we encounter and highlight, the more complete picture of history and art history we'll have.
@fugithegreat8 ай бұрын
I love this so much! Break those old myths and bring the artists that got written out or written off to the forefront. I was recently flipping through an encyclopedia of Great Artists (printed in like 1977) and I had to look hard to find anyone who wasn't a European male. The ratio of men to women was probably 500 to 1, and it made my blood boil.
@AdrianBruninga8 ай бұрын
I can smell the “certain austrian painter” memes coming from a mile away
@EayuProuxm8 ай бұрын
It'd be nice to see a covering of the ideas of how art history was created and recorded on non-European cultures.
@Davlavi8 ай бұрын
Very cool thanks.
@Ashsarwono3 ай бұрын
Why can't I watch your videos, take a thorough test and write an essay, and pay you for a degree? I've learned more here than in an entire class on this topic.
@kathrien8 ай бұрын
Hi ❤ l'm from Syria and study biology from here (Crash Course)
@sunilrana838 ай бұрын
Than you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ for helping a 5 class kid
@willmendoza84988 ай бұрын
Wonderful series
@TSwiftie13-ts138 ай бұрын
thank you👏👏
@RangdhonuTime-cm1ow8 ай бұрын
Knowledge sharing.❤
@DuranmanX8 ай бұрын
Im curious how this translates to East Asian artists like Hokusai, who is prominent despite the lack of European influence
@guest_informant8 ай бұрын
This is a really great point. Smart History covers them occasionally. Unkei, Josetsu, Kanō Sansetsu, Hokusai and many others all seem to have gained individual prominence without any help from Vasari 🙂
@reddenver8 ай бұрын
I missed you so much!!
@6a10u8 ай бұрын
Im curious how art was thought about during this time period in different cultures and locations. Asian art specifically but other of course. What made a capital G great artist in China/Zhongguo or Ayutthaya/Thailand etc. ?
@ShinDMitsuki8 ай бұрын
Artist are not geniuses. Often times they aren't smart at all. I work as an artist so this isn't shade, but an obvious derivation from dealing with artist in an industry that mixes art and math. Artist being able to interface is always the bottleneck. Furthermore, many artist of the past people consider great made art in "secrecy." They did it to protect the sauce. Art is not that hard. Anyone can do it with dedication to the craft, and many times to get the super high quality paintings people always laud as "real" art or whatever, it just involves a lot of time and techniques like tracing. Even sculpting is a super advanced form of tracing generally. I think people just put magic to artist and then mix that with celebrity. It happens always. A mechanic might work as a mechanic a long time and have similar skills relatively speaking to an artist, it's just no one cares because you don't show fixing cars in history books.
@auntyshakira7478 ай бұрын
Da Vinci was certainly a genius for sure
@Tranitaur8 ай бұрын
Great episode, thanks for sharing.
@PhilipMurphy8Extra8 ай бұрын
Artists are far better then most celebrities these days in reality
@randomdancer7588 ай бұрын
i´m so happy
@GaasubaMeskhenet8 ай бұрын
Guild to commission shift reminds me a lot of the AI shift that's happening now
@krizzay958 ай бұрын
Did she just call me a screen? 😂
@DevonThornton8 ай бұрын
Just like great musicians, great artists are decided by the fans
@Cherry_with_science8 ай бұрын
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@HuggieBear398 ай бұрын
Bob Ross was a MASTER.
@Francisqolito8 ай бұрын
So what makes an artist great?
@shoutinglove8 ай бұрын
This series is 1000x better and more informative then the art history course I had to take and pay nearly $2k for 🙃
@1neurotic8 ай бұрын
They used to be DaVinci era but past say 1881 they are just tallented. Taking a pic of a soup can isnt genius painting starry night isnt either they didnt give the world anything else like Gallego or DaVinci
@Genny-Zee8 ай бұрын
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@SK28th8 ай бұрын
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@samwill72598 ай бұрын
I'm going to say "No" in that in general I don't believe genius...exists, at least not as a separate force in people. All humans are good at something and no one is born predestined to do something greater than another Genius and mastery is something you pursue, not something you simply are.
@zeropoint25948 ай бұрын
I would put in another way: Genius exists in everyone at all times it´s just that many people don´t realize that and because of that they never found "their" genius like you said all humans have something they are good at and I think that everyone has a vision only they have so they can do things only they can do at least that´s what I think
@foodball_studio8 ай бұрын
I am trying to understand art
@maldaror70978 ай бұрын
you already do, just love the art you love
@alanarmstrong31868 ай бұрын
So what makes a great artist is made up by arbitrary societal standards? Cool take but it doesn't help me understand what makes an artist great... Was Pablo Picasso not great? Andy Warhol? Michelangelo?
@prtrainor8 ай бұрын
Yes, Frieda is a great of Art History.
@fugithegreat8 ай бұрын
She's definitely capital-G Great, but it sucks that she's also usually just the token woman artist that people throw in to be "inclusive".
@wolfgangdarkly8 ай бұрын
Maybe a Frida Kahlo?
@zachhoff98768 ай бұрын
Easy.. they're not. Just got on the right side of the hype machine.
@djjoe88998 ай бұрын
I don't know if I add Warhol into the great category.
@williamcarter79776 ай бұрын
Great artists is a myth but great art is a reality? What makes a work of great? Ambiguity and Complexity!
@PopescuAlexandruCristian8 ай бұрын
It's true that there are no great artists.... anymore
@silikei18108 ай бұрын
Unforgiving authenticity
@Andy618808 ай бұрын
I thought you would talk about about what makes and artist great and then you divert us by talking about women artist and discrimination faced by them. I agree about the discrimination part but make a separate video about.
@Moondog666028 ай бұрын
I bet money it's actually a woman behind alot of these artists, who end up getting no credit
@b00nz0r8 ай бұрын
In today’s world? How well they can simp for the rich