Crashing Inverted Into the Pacific Ocean Just After Takeoff | Flying Blind [With Real Audio]

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3 жыл бұрын

Find out why the Boeing 757 operating Aeroperú Flight 603 crashed into the Pacific Ocean shortly after taking off from Lima, Peru.
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@tr5398
@tr5398 3 жыл бұрын
As a frequent flyer for more than 20 years, when my flight gets cancelled or delayed for 'mechanical' reasons, I try to remember videos like these.
@exxtortggs757
@exxtortggs757 3 жыл бұрын
Why that would just freak me out
@herrbonk3635
@herrbonk3635 3 жыл бұрын
@@exxtortggs757 Sarcasm, I guess.
@donaldzuramp4404
@donaldzuramp4404 3 жыл бұрын
And passengers act like sht when delays like this happens
@jadensummer
@jadensummer 3 жыл бұрын
I have been on 1000's a flights... I think 35% of those have been delayed for 'mechanical' reasons. At some point i got so paranoid i didn't get on some of those flights. a while later i just quit my job cause i got a fear of flying that was just too big to handle anymore. Crazy cause i loved flying for soo long
@theoriginaltroll388
@theoriginaltroll388 3 жыл бұрын
The airport is the only place i can wait a day if necessary and not complain one bit
@Morpheen999
@Morpheen999 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest piloting mistake is noticing that instruments are incorrect, and then flying into the black away from any visual reference....
@trulygrateful1117
@trulygrateful1117 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. 1st thing I thought about was that I’d have immediately radioed in an emergency and started turning back to the lights while they can still be seen during the process of turning the flight around. It @ least gives you something to go off of instead of just the blackest of night.
@nitroburner1838
@nitroburner1838 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...radio atc and tell them you need to make an emergency landing...circle back around the airport, land, deplane, investigate
@MI1T
@MI1T 3 жыл бұрын
@@trulygrateful1117 Correct, but not by instructions. Premature actions can cause alot of problems. And if those actions will lead to damage or even deaths, pilots will be to blame. In any abnormal situation, most emergency procedures starts with leveling flight and opening Airplane Flying Handbook with corresponding chapter. If they are not trained on simulator 100 times. Level flight was in question. Circumstances were not in favor of this flight.
@MonkeyBuRps
@MonkeyBuRps 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn't use the stars that disappeared over the horizon as a visual reference, in addition to the full moOn.
@trulygrateful1117
@trulygrateful1117 3 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyBuRps They did...they tried to turn the plane ✈️ upside down to find it [ the moon ] . 😄 😉
@haitechan6183
@haitechan6183 2 жыл бұрын
My classmate's dad died in that flight. Classmate was around 10 yo and his little sister (my younger sister's classmate) was 6. Decades later, I met the pilot's younger brother, he was my mom's car mechanic. The world is truly really small.
@LV2UJC-FM
@LV2UJC-FM 3 жыл бұрын
The F/O said, "We're impacting water, trying to pull it up, The captain responds saying, "I have it, I have it!" All because of a piece of adhesive tape! This is inconceivable! I'm so very sorry to all the family members who lost loved ones aboard this flight! What a tragedy!!!
@Vonononie
@Vonononie 3 жыл бұрын
The F/O was giving clear information and working out a plan for the captain. Better crew management could have resulted in a different outcome.
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
Or if the seats were switched.
@macioluko9484
@macioluko9484 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the guidance request was submitted 10 minutes earlier...
@cookiebitesdust
@cookiebitesdust 3 жыл бұрын
Man, that first officer was trying. RIP.
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 3 жыл бұрын
He was fighting until the vary end. RIP
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienter7517 Fighting the idiot captain.
@timmy841212
@timmy841212 3 жыл бұрын
@@dtz1000 The captain got on my nerves. He reminded me of the captain on Saudi Flight 163.
@mr_movieguru
@mr_movieguru 3 жыл бұрын
That first officer tried too save the situation. The Captain still believing his instruments to much.
@byoshizaki1025
@byoshizaki1025 3 жыл бұрын
First officer should have strongly challenged the idiot captain who was clueless until the very end.
@lastone3498
@lastone3498 2 жыл бұрын
This accident has always been discussed over the years at my Aircraft Maintenance training institute in order to remind everyone what a simple mistake could lead to in aviation…rip to those on board the flight
@rjv-rw2ef
@rjv-rw2ef Жыл бұрын
That's one wild mistake. Half way into the video and the Capitan is STILL wondering why the meters aren't working. And now he is out in the sea. Half way in and in already triggered.
@Jay-vr9ir
@Jay-vr9ir Жыл бұрын
That is the reason , I never fly, not enough safety nets and a crashes happen way too fast , to be able to save yourself .
@seditiouswalrus
@seditiouswalrus Жыл бұрын
@@Jay-vr9ir you can die walking outside.
@kdphotos4691
@kdphotos4691 Жыл бұрын
@@rjv-rw2ef - What was "already triggered?"
@johndez9398
@johndez9398 Жыл бұрын
What can a pilot do in a situation like this if instrumentation is down or giving erroneous readings and the pilot isn’t furnished with visual references?
@blondkarol
@blondkarol 2 жыл бұрын
This is just unbelievable that after noticing that the airspeed indicator is still going up after setting the engines to idle and extending the speedbrakes the captain was still trusting the readings from flight instruments. Not to mention he shouldn't even have left limits of the city with obvious instruments failure during a pitch black night.
@Jay-vr9ir
@Jay-vr9ir Жыл бұрын
I never fly , the last time I crossed the Atlantic a few years ago , it was on The Queen Mary 2 .
@jamesoncurry5224
@jamesoncurry5224 Жыл бұрын
thinking the same thing, otherwise you have no points of reference and you are in deep trouble.
@wojciech5177
@wojciech5177 Жыл бұрын
I was watching another video from this series, where the Captain did NOT trust the instruments and that caused the crash 🤷
@gregorcutt1199
@gregorcutt1199 Жыл бұрын
It's difficult. Lots of crashes have happened because the pilots did not trust their instruments. But certainly in this case they should not have left sight of the city!
@bbs5400
@bbs5400 Жыл бұрын
Pilots are trained to forget their intuition and to trust their instruments, as loss of situational awareness and not trusting your instruments causes a lot of accidents. Also, my first thought when they said to go right over the water was, "good, they'll get away from all of these buildings they could crash into and kill more people", until I remembered they didn't have altitude, that alone meant they should stay within VFR
@kimberlymiller1396
@kimberlymiller1396 3 жыл бұрын
The F/O sounds so scared when he says, "we are impacting water." This is utterly terrifying.
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 3 жыл бұрын
The sound in the background too of the water impact
@ravenleader5618
@ravenleader5618 3 жыл бұрын
At that speed, it's the same as concrete..!
@kyle1m
@kyle1m 3 жыл бұрын
he realized the mistake right then and there, the instrument was very wrong
@nofurtherwest3474
@nofurtherwest3474 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienter7517 if they had landed on the belly (right side up) could they have survived?
@cocotaveras8975
@cocotaveras8975 3 жыл бұрын
@@nofurtherwest3474 Not at that speed into rough seas, plus, even if they had survived the initial impact, they could have easily drowned or died of hypothermia well before any help could have arrived.
@katiemii3234
@katiemii3234 3 жыл бұрын
the fear in the first officers voice when he says they were hitting the water is so heartbreaking
@raypitts4880
@raypitts4880 3 жыл бұрын
MY THOUGHTS THAT PILOT WAS A SO AND SO F/O FIGHTING HIM ALL THE TIME.
@foilhattiest1
@foilhattiest1 2 жыл бұрын
I think if I was hearing "TOO LOW TERRAIN" as a pilot, I'd always want to go UP regardless of what anybody or anything else says. The potential risks involved with incorrectly going up at that point seem a lot more benign than the risks involved with incorrectly going down.
@clouds53
@clouds53 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@pierre-xr4bp
@pierre-xr4bp 2 жыл бұрын
The point is there was so many alarms that they couldn't figure out which one was true
@Holland1994D
@Holland1994D 2 жыл бұрын
And what if the too low terrain was also faulty? Yes it was the correct one, but I do think that you are talking in hindsight, as these pilots had no idea what was happening and were not trained for this.
@foilhattiest1
@foilhattiest1 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Holland1994D Well sure, but, if that warning was also faulty, then so what? It wouldn't matter much because there's rarely any danger in climbing higher (unless you go up past the altitude the aircraft can physically handle but these pilots already knew they were much lower than that). The terrain warning has the most guaranteed lethal consequences if not responded to immediately and the consequences of responding to it incorrectly are virtual non existant (unless you hit another plane flying above you, but what are the odds of that) so I still maintain that if in any doubt whatsoever, it's always better to go up than down if your plane is telling you you should.
@gerrywhelan5761
@gerrywhelan5761 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, take the far less risky option, but different people react differently to high stress situations, I have see people do silly things in high stress situations, couldn't get their thinking straight till they were corrected.
@richardmacdonald2842
@richardmacdonald2842 2 жыл бұрын
This is why the captain’s walk around and final walk around done by technician before blocking aircraft is so critical.
@RaineStudio
@RaineStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Our most important flight instruments have all gone crazy. Okay, let's just fly out over the dark ocean then.
@jesuswasjewish5289
@jesuswasjewish5289 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what a dodo the captain was
@aldenunion
@aldenunion 3 жыл бұрын
When losing power possibility and the city population below,he should of left possiblity of going down in populated area while still keeping city horizon as visual reference..... Never should of decreased below 20\15,000 ft until visual reference was attained because other aircraft were on the way.. Easy to say when career is on the line. He got angry when F\O ASKED for reference aircraft guidance rescue but Responsible for lives Ego must be secondary...They sure needed to buy time for guiding aircraft.. Sad mishap... They cover ports for insect nesting or cleaning,would be first on my checklist as a pilot and F\O should perform redundant SOP as well for his checklist..As a Passenger I would examine such before boarding with my loved ones...True Story flight 101..
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldenunion Aren't Pitot tubes normally checked before flight to begin with?
@33moneyball
@33moneyball 3 жыл бұрын
And both were responding the entire time to obviously bogus information. Idling the engine cause of the “overspeed” warning. You don’t know what the speed is...neither does the plane.
@ChickenJoe788
@ChickenJoe788 3 жыл бұрын
You brain dead internet people need to remember that the animation that this video is probably looked nothing like the real situation.
@irfansheen5362
@irfansheen5362 3 жыл бұрын
Flying into pitch dark with faulty instruments was a fatal mistake. They should have returned before leaving the lights of Lima and entering into the deadly darkness.
@williamsimmons152
@williamsimmons152 3 жыл бұрын
Just because a driver has 22 thousand hours, doesn’t mean he’s smart.
@VaporheadATC
@VaporheadATC 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamsimmons152 He's not dumb either. A pilot that has accumulated that many flight hours has the experience, but just goes to prove that it doesn't matter how many hours you have, you are still human and humans make mistakes.
@samuraifugitivo
@samuraifugitivo 3 жыл бұрын
Lima is a very cloudy city, in a winter night you wont see a shit even 2 minutes aftet take off.
@j.walker6845
@j.walker6845 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuraifugitivo In this case the best thing would be to climb above the clouds and then radio for help
@samuraifugitivo
@samuraifugitivo 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.walker6845 do you understand “you cant see nothing”?, man, have you ever been in an airliner cockpit in a dark night (cloudy, no moon)?, man, you cant see a shit!, all you have is your instruments! Go above the clouds! Hahahaha, something like “next exit ahead” in your highway trip?, man, understand, in cities like lima just a very few minutes from take off there is literally nothing to see!, specially at night and during winter time. No clouds to see, no stars, no moon. How can you go above something you cant see?. Pilots knew they could reach altitude limit and the engines will shut down. They could reach speed limit and the aircraft frame will break. Understand , without instruments and no visual reference, you are done!
@chrisgwynne1586
@chrisgwynne1586 2 жыл бұрын
Most people can see that the captain panicked and lost all rational thought. He'd agree with the instruments one moment but change his mind the next, completely lost situational awareness, or any logical thread. Reminds me a lot of Air France Flight 447.
@elsingon7464
@elsingon7464 Жыл бұрын
That captain had Ego problem also
@kurtstark9966
@kurtstark9966 Жыл бұрын
@@elsingon7464 i think the same, he tried to overcall his FO decision or opinions, and thought he would figure out the problem all by himself...
@RatPfink66
@RatPfink66 Жыл бұрын
@@elsingon7464 which in itself kept him from a) listening to his f/o or b) declaring emergency until the last possible moment _or later_
@wikkidfury
@wikkidfury Жыл бұрын
@ Chris Gwynne Flight 447 was F/O Bonin TRYING to be a hero but getting EVERYONE killed (with his own wife Isabelle, she was on the flight with him) when the pitot tubes froze up at 35,000 ft from bad turbulence. He turned off the auto-pilot and took control of the Airbus himself, pitching the nose up with his side stick and causing a stall. His co-pilot F/O Robert was trying to help him and he was pushing his side stick up--but on an A-330, those two actions done simultaneously cancel each other out. Had Bonin NOT turned off the auto-pilot and just let the plane continue on it's flight path, this crash would have never happened. The pitot tubes would have de-iced and read correctly after little more than a minute. This whole crash was caused by him, and happened solely bcuz of HIS actions!!!😢 As a result, the A-330 slammed into the ocean belly first dropping 10,000 ft/min at 300 mph. Everyone on board perished instantly from being pancaked and the Airbus was obliterated. It took them over 2 years to find the CVR and FDR, as well as recover what they could of the wreckage. R.I.P.🙏🇫🇷
@Samir-dy6le
@Samir-dy6le 5 ай бұрын
Well it is a tragedy, but panicking already ten seconds into a "situation" as a pilot should not even be a thing. The first officer should have been the one flying. From the cvr at least, one lost his mind completely and one was still able to keep the plane flying at least.
@_RickySpanish_
@_RickySpanish_ 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wrap my head around the fact that they all thought they was at 9-10,000 ft when they where only like what 100ft from the water? And then they actually hit the water 😢 That must have been absolutely terrifying 😩
@a_rissa.baybee8299
@a_rissa.baybee8299 3 жыл бұрын
Aw man.. there were so many issues .. so many issues. That poor FO who couldn’t get a word in edgewise , he tried , he really did. RIP to everyone lost in this tragedy
@shmuelman
@shmuelman Жыл бұрын
The Captain seemed to be a very stubborn man.
@greg77389
@greg77389 Жыл бұрын
@@shmuelman There's one thing all stubborn people should know: You'll never win an argument with death.
@jjm8224
@jjm8224 3 жыл бұрын
This was just horrible to watch, I was feeling stressed. RIP all passengers and pilots.
@latashahoward3943
@latashahoward3943 3 жыл бұрын
I know! I truly get so worked up watching these crash simulations to the point where I'm sweating and my heart is beating out of my chest. I guess it's because I imagine myself being a passenger and I know what I'm imagining is not even close to what these poor people actually went through. For me the worst ways to die are in a plane crash, burning alive and being at the top of the World Trade Center having to jump.
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 3 жыл бұрын
@@latashahoward3943. Yah 9/11 was horrible not only people died even people lost their jobs when some airlines went bankrupt. RIP to all the people that died those days
@nurse7559
@nurse7559 3 жыл бұрын
Just fucking horrifying.
@terryschnereger8531
@terryschnereger8531 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget RIP autopilot
@mariebernier3076
@mariebernier3076 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigballz4u Yes that was Hisashi Ouchi, a Japanese worker at the Tokaimura plant. He received a dose of radiation incompatible with life.
@KrK007
@KrK007 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard the "Too low--- Terrain!" warning sound for this length of time. Usually on these air accident videos, when you hear that, there's only seconds left. It's stressful just to watch.... I can't imagine what it would be like to be in that cockpit....
@Robert_N
@Robert_N Жыл бұрын
The aircraft must've been on a shallow descent.
@Injudiciously
@Injudiciously Жыл бұрын
It's times like that you wished you took a baseball bat to deal with the thickos.
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande Жыл бұрын
PULL UP (or 💀 )
@garden0fstone736
@garden0fstone736 Ай бұрын
Imagine being out there and watching a huge commercial plane just like 10 feet above the water for miles
@germyw
@germyw 3 жыл бұрын
Man! This one was especially sad because of what little it took to down a whole plane AND the f/o was trying SO hard.
@matthewmasuka4390
@matthewmasuka4390 Жыл бұрын
The Captain's arrogance annoyed me
@aicerg
@aicerg Жыл бұрын
@@matthewmasuka4390 my jaw dropped when he yelled "don't tell him any of that!" when the FO was trying to rely information about the faulty instruments on the controller.
@britneygervais1192
@britneygervais1192 3 жыл бұрын
"Terrain" Scariest words I'll ever hear
@SouthwesternEagle
@SouthwesternEagle 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! I never thought I'd be traumatized by the word "terrain".
@meedah3500
@meedah3500 3 жыл бұрын
Yea... i
@meedah3500
@meedah3500 3 жыл бұрын
I’m scared to fly on planes now... maybe I’ll just stay home
@SouthwesternEagle
@SouthwesternEagle 3 жыл бұрын
@@meedah3500 With COVID-19, it's best you stay home anyway.
@meedah3500
@meedah3500 3 жыл бұрын
And the way the F/O was saying “HAWA!!!/ WATER!!” Made me even more scared. He sounded like he was genuinely struggling
@drakesavory2019
@drakesavory2019 3 жыл бұрын
That F/O was the real pilot. The Captain was too worried about his career.
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
Well, how did his career end up after this crash?
@kimberlymiller1396
@kimberlymiller1396 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@THYB737
@THYB737 3 жыл бұрын
And about the autopilot.
@tgruzs8015
@tgruzs8015 3 жыл бұрын
Lemme tell you something Why did they crash: when they took off they had a problem that the plane was so fast that it crash but here is the problem ptfs when you stalled then made it to long to stall the speed will go up stalling fast that was is happening but it will destroy then power on the plane making it lose contact and autopilot disable
@doom-generation4109
@doom-generation4109 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgruzs8015 Impossible to read.
@istrumguitars
@istrumguitars 2 жыл бұрын
It's really a shame the public can't access more of these cockpit recordings. It reveals a LOT more about the nature and tension of these situations, and gives a level of understanding you just won't get from reading transcripts.
@Reggie-The-Dog
@Reggie-The-Dog Жыл бұрын
In other words you want to hear them as they die. Nice.
@brandonadams6574
@brandonadams6574 Жыл бұрын
Watching this gave me chills…flying over water at night, can’t tell if you are too close to the water until it’s too late. RIP to all on board
@leslieslovelies6268
@leslieslovelies6268 3 жыл бұрын
I believe pilot error was also a factor. After takeoff and before tower signed off, they didn’t communicate the problem, nor immediately declare an emergency, nor keep their cool, including captain shouting at first officer to not tell ATC about stick shaker, captain not realizing he didn’t decrease speed he increased himself, etc. etc. etc. I think the captain’s ego got in the way of his professionalism.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Not just that, but whoever was assigned to do the preflight "walk around" did not do a proper job!! Although many pilots have a cavalier attitude towards this procedure, it is an EXTREMELY important part of the pre-flight prep work! If they had done a proper and thorough job, the tape, left over on the static port, would have been discovered, saving them from this terrible tragedy!
@leslieslovelies6268
@leslieslovelies6268 3 жыл бұрын
747-pilot That’s a moot point. The aftermath could’ve been prevented had the pilots done their due diligence when maintenance man failed to do his.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 3 жыл бұрын
@@leslieslovelies6268 That's exactly what I'm saying! The pilots did not do their jobs during the preflight walk around, and also when things escalated in the cockpit. Aviation accidents are always a "chain of events". And the "chain" failed at every stage in this case!
@thorgarbinwessel-kjenner7736
@thorgarbinwessel-kjenner7736 3 жыл бұрын
@@747-pilot The tape was almost invisible, this accident is the reason why all taping of pitots and sensors must be marked with big orange markers, clearly visible. From beneath the wings in darkness they were impossible to see. Even using flashlight. Saying that, I don't understand why they didn't turn around as soon as the problems rose.
@jetblast5902
@jetblast5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@leslieslovelies6268 I believe their main mistake was to lose visual ground references with city's lights. I don't understand why they headed to the ocean whereas they had any instruments providing correct information...
@theaveragesimmer4780
@theaveragesimmer4780 3 жыл бұрын
"mayday mayday mayday, this is flight 603, none of our instruments are working properly, we are returning to the airport. I may have to land this manually. turn left back to the airport." Why didnt the pilots do this within 5 minutes of takeoff?
@terrenceholt44
@terrenceholt44 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why a lot of these after take offs never just turn around. I would rather lose my license than to wait on ATC and save my life
@mickmeadows
@mickmeadows 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I never understand it. My only comment from my own experience working in a toxic culture is sometimes the pressure to meet deadlines can be intense. But that is no excuse especially with lived at stake, just something I’ve experienced before (toxic work culture). RIP.
@kimberlymiller1396
@kimberlymiller1396 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. TURN AROUND NOW! Don't fly over the black sea to trouble shoot!
@nicholasbutler153
@nicholasbutler153 3 жыл бұрын
I agonised over this for years. Eventually, I found a part in the transcript where the first officer requests vectors for the runway and the Captain interjects with "Not yet, let's stabilise". He apparently thought they'd be better staying away from the airport, working out what was wrong, fixing the problem and then landing. He was sadly terribly mistaken.
@kennethwarburton177
@kennethwarburton177 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same, while they still had visual contact with the ground.
@AV4Life
@AV4Life 2 жыл бұрын
The fact all of the initial survivors drowned in the freezing ocean all because of covered static ports is absolutely horrifying.
@jamesb1988
@jamesb1988 2 жыл бұрын
I say "fortunately" here relatively, but fortunately there would have been no surviving the initial force of the impact. And if by some miracle someone did survive, they would have been unconscious.
@cynthiadavid5282
@cynthiadavid5282 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to all the passengers crew and pilots that fly these big airliner jets
@Pllm30
@Pllm30 2 жыл бұрын
Once impact their bodies break apart, amputations everywhere, no one is conscious.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 2 жыл бұрын
No one was conscious on impact. No way
@peterjones9317
@peterjones9317 2 жыл бұрын
If they would of used their oxygen and breathed underwater they would of been fine. These passengers didnt pay attention to the safety briefing
@Aki-to
@Aki-to 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the "TERRAIN" alarm was the scariest thing I could hear from the recordings. Until I heard the plane literally touching the ocean floor. Holy shit. Usually, in case of crashes, the sound immediately cuts off. But to hear not only the crash itself, but a dip into the water, without immediately crashing is extremely terrifying. Ho. Lee. Shit.
@zubibuubi7359
@zubibuubi7359 2 жыл бұрын
Its Better Not... To Fly... Or Abort Takeoff...
@isabellind1292
@isabellind1292 2 жыл бұрын
It appeared they hit the water and then got airborne again, enough to flip over before it hit the water again. Hearing the poor co-pilot asking how could they not be flying too low if they were experiencing sticker-shake is so sad. I also wonder if people in 1st class/business class can hear all those bells & whistles going off in the cockpit. They sound really loud. Those poor people, RIP all lost souls.❤🌹
@dannyr333
@dannyr333 2 жыл бұрын
Capt. Som ting Wong Ho li fuk Wi tu lo Bang ding ow
@noahtek1101
@noahtek1101 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t hear it
@noahtek1101
@noahtek1101 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that last sound is from the actual recording, it’s a sound they put in all of the videos where it ends in an impact.
@jwilson5328
@jwilson5328 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather get thrown off a cliff than die like this. This is one of my primal fears flying over the ocean at night. imagine being the mateninace guy who forgot the tape on the sensors........pure negligence and manslaughter charges.
@RunPJs
@RunPJs 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine any punishment he receives would never compare to the guilt he will have for the rest of his life.
@jwilson5328
@jwilson5328 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPJs you are very correct 👏
@TheRatlord74
@TheRatlord74 3 жыл бұрын
The passengers probably knew little about it until the last few seconds. They wouldn't have been able to see anything through the windows and the plane wasn't performing any aggressive manoeuvres until it inverted at the end.
@jwilson5328
@jwilson5328 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRatlord74 once that wing tip hit the water I'm pretty sure everyone was awake because that noise was loud enough to get picked up by the recorder. I could NOT even imagine the fear then immediate drowning.
@lenny108
@lenny108 3 жыл бұрын
Problem was before take-off the captain forgot to walk around the plane with a torchlight and check all the sensors
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 3 жыл бұрын
Wow many of their instruments gave wrong inputs, alarm sounds keep coming in every corners at short time, no visual reference, and worse of all they had to fly at night, what a nightmare fuel, i know they sound panicking because one problem after one problem keep coming before they can react properly, but still i feel really sorry for them to experience that, they still tried their best, rest in peace for all people onboard..
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 3 жыл бұрын
I just wonder why when they put actual inputs into the plane by slowing the engines a light did not come on even with all the chaos. There is a problem when automation takes away the common sense of doing without.
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 3 жыл бұрын
@Martin Svensson They were flying to ocean because they thought the problem isn't serious and probably "planned" to continue the flight, since this was before most alarms ringing because the problem, notice even how the captain told FO not to notify atc for landing because they had to stabilize the plane first, all and all that was the fatal mistake they had done.. For idling maybe because they thought they were still overspeed since captain was confused after speedbreaker was already deployed but the speed for some reason was still really high, even tho they should realize the speed indicator always faulty..
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 3 жыл бұрын
@Martin Svensson Yeah lost focus is one hell of killer, this crash might be prevented if one of the chains who led to disaster is cut away, but none of them succeeded..
@pineappleroad
@pineappleroad 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure, but I recall from somewhere that when they reach 80 knots during takeoff they are supposed to check that the captains and first officers airspeed indicators show the same reading, and if the readings don't match, they are supposed to abort takeoff (this check should always be done when it is still safe to abort takeoff)
@irvancrocs1753
@irvancrocs1753 3 жыл бұрын
@@pineappleroad Maybe the regulation to do that happen in modern days but not back then, but i could be wrong..
@derp8575
@derp8575 Жыл бұрын
The captain said "we're going to invert" in such a chillingly calm manner.
@Vicki1058
@Vicki1058 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you make these videos so realistic. I feel bad for the people who’s family died in these crashes, yet, what you do, the research and the taking the time to help us understand what happened in these aircraft crashes, is commendable. Thank you.
@AirportPlaneSpotting
@AirportPlaneSpotting 2 жыл бұрын
And goodnight
@javianjohnson8746
@javianjohnson8746 3 жыл бұрын
The entire video using real life audio recordings made this special. Try to do this more often if you can please
@Lee-eu6wf
@Lee-eu6wf 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use special when 70 people died but certainly more intense
@ayoutuber2011
@ayoutuber2011 2 жыл бұрын
He does. On all his videos on this channel.
@czernykins
@czernykins 3 жыл бұрын
- Emergency, we got no altimeter - Your altitude? * faints, falls down stairs *
@dwiyono6385
@dwiyono6385 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That was fool i think
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 3 жыл бұрын
That ATC was a dumb idiot.
@briansimpson8116
@briansimpson8116 3 жыл бұрын
Because they may have still known their altitude prior to the malfunction. If you close your eyes you still have an idea where you are. Planes usually stay at a certain altitude when not taking off or landing.
@bigyankee2006
@bigyankee2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@dtz1000 What a disrespectful to the dumbest... they are more intelligent that that assh0l3 xD
@Mikinct
@Mikinct 3 жыл бұрын
Majority of ATC aren’t pilots. They aren’t required to have a basic pilots license.
@cynthiasnyder4202
@cynthiasnyder4202 Жыл бұрын
I used to be afraid of flying until I started watching all these videos comforted me a little
@victoranthony9037
@victoranthony9037 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this tragedy. I will never understand why the pilots didn't elevate while heading back to Lima, where they could get a visual reference of where they are and could land the plane safely. The first officer tried to save them but it wasn't enough. They buckled under the pressure of not having their instruments and those annoying alerts scared them. RIP.
@billyd5749
@billyd5749 2 жыл бұрын
They thought they were at 10,000 feet
@jimcreasser8520
@jimcreasser8520 2 жыл бұрын
@@billyd5749 9
@thunderstorm4074
@thunderstorm4074 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, they couldn't have done fuk about this one, they were doomed all the way
@billyd5749
@billyd5749 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderstorm4074 exactly. So many contradictory readings from the plane. They had no chance unfortunately.
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 Жыл бұрын
My thought too
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 3 жыл бұрын
The fear in the pilot's voice saying they're impacting water 😳😣😣.. Damn
@galbeeri8360
@galbeeri8360 2 жыл бұрын
And that sound! Ffffhhhhhhhh 😳
@claudiomc781
@claudiomc781 2 жыл бұрын
But he sounds calm when he said we are gonna invert .
@21753117
@21753117 3 жыл бұрын
A classic accident. The captain was absolutely crazy to go to open sea in the dark with no instruments. He should have declared an emergency a minute after checking he had no reliable instruments, and use the city lights as reference to land back at the airport.
@robinray692
@robinray692 2 жыл бұрын
What I was thinking as well, and I'm just a regular joe with zero pilot experience.
@pillowbugg
@pillowbugg 2 жыл бұрын
But he would have been late, and time is money...just ask Alaska Airlines...
@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats
@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Captain hindsight to the rescue
@robinray692
@robinray692 2 жыл бұрын
@@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats lieutenant 20/20 here at your service
@CraigBMM
@CraigBMM 2 жыл бұрын
indeed
@jeffhale522
@jeffhale522 Жыл бұрын
I'm lucky that I have never flown on a plane that had so many mechanical problems maybe I have and was lucky enough not to hear about it I am truly sorry for all the lost souls on these flights
@wolfeeee
@wolfeeee Жыл бұрын
You'd get trained or fail trying
@carolinacolmenaresvaldivia9014
@carolinacolmenaresvaldivia9014 3 жыл бұрын
It's so sad to imagine the horror that pilots, crew and passengers could've felt that night. This accident also determined the end of the most emblematic and memorable airline of my country, to the point that we don't have a national airline anymore. On the other hand, as much as I know, the guy who covered the sensors with tape got away with it and now he's working for a very known international airline as a flight instructor... So unfair. 😒
@zubibuubi7359
@zubibuubi7359 2 жыл бұрын
😿😭
@WallstreetHussle
@WallstreetHussle 2 жыл бұрын
Not true . He was charged and jailed
@carolinacolmenaresvaldivia9014
@carolinacolmenaresvaldivia9014 2 жыл бұрын
@@WallstreetHussle Yes he was but when released he became a flight instructor and works for an international airline.
@maria-melek
@maria-melek 2 жыл бұрын
@@carolinacolmenaresvaldivia9014 Can we know his name? I’m Mexican but even though I am it still hurts. That man doesn’t deserve to work for any airline. I also wonder how does he sleep at night knowing that his mistake caused the death of so many innocent people.
@Asia-sk8lc
@Asia-sk8lc 3 жыл бұрын
This really hurts, cause of some Damn tape!!?!
@chelsea431
@chelsea431 3 жыл бұрын
cant believe it
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 3 жыл бұрын
And Captain error. First officer tried to get help
@toddhurley5629
@toddhurley5629 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the guy who forgot to remove the tape.
@Lordisking242
@Lordisking242 3 жыл бұрын
He prob killed himself
@briansmyla8696
@briansmyla8696 3 жыл бұрын
Or the pilots who are supposed to visually check the pitot tubes and static ports before flight.
@BritanniaPacific
@BritanniaPacific 3 жыл бұрын
He was found and charged with negligent homicide
@Zach-td5mb
@Zach-td5mb 2 жыл бұрын
@@briansmyla8696 let me know when you see a 3 inch piece of plane colored tape 20 feet off the ground at night with a 90s flashlight.
@razorwire3056
@razorwire3056 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zach-td5mb but it was their job. If they can't do the job right, they shouldn't fly the airplane. A pilot is the command authority. If he can't see that something is working properly, he should assume it isn't working. You're right.... maybe he can't see with a 90s flashlight (Maglight would beg to differ) from 20 feet, but its his responsibility to say something. He's got the left seat because his is in command of the airplane.
@b.t.356
@b.t.356 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what it was like for the crew and passengers to realize in those last seconds that that was going to be their last night on earth 💔💔💔
@naomimartis9148
@naomimartis9148 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion ( only if you prefer it): Maybe you could also make more video's on the pilot or the crew's quick thinking that helped saved a avoidable disaster. That way we get to see some more positive endings.
@standoughope
@standoughope 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I knew they'd crash I was on the edge of my seat throughout that disturbing audio. Just layer upon layer of confusion, what a nightmare... all caused by some tape. RIP Aeroperú Flight 603
@shortsightedness8371
@shortsightedness8371 3 жыл бұрын
"Is the autopilot on?" "Yes, but it's off."
@razorwire3056
@razorwire3056 2 жыл бұрын
yeah admission is free so you pay at the door.
@ceyhunkd
@ceyhunkd 2 жыл бұрын
maybe he meant button is open but system is off just my guessing idk about planes .d
@trulygrateful1117
@trulygrateful1117 2 жыл бұрын
@Неороманист Pshh On Point Bro
@avova
@avova 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that they even considered turning it on (and did) with all the instruments showing bs. Pilots nowadays have no common sense and cannot fly by themselves.
@zorls
@zorls 2 жыл бұрын
This comment had me dying 🤣🤣
@abdusshakoorsaafir3985
@abdusshakoorsaafir3985 2 жыл бұрын
Even with faulty instruments he's still aware of his inputs and he could've flown on that alone and climbed until he could make visual contact with land.
@terrykolanitch4180
@terrykolanitch4180 Жыл бұрын
Between the subtle audio details and the crystal video, itZ ALWAYS a first-class visit! 👍
@badass1g
@badass1g 3 жыл бұрын
Man can you imagine the panic with all that going on? That video gave me anxiety and I’m laying in a comfortable bed. Sad :-/
@111highgh
@111highgh 3 жыл бұрын
Whoop whoop, pull up.
@shuilynmua8584
@shuilynmua8584 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@232K7
@232K7 2 жыл бұрын
Mood.
@trulygrateful1117
@trulygrateful1117 2 жыл бұрын
😬😳🙄😳😬
@oliverrch5370
@oliverrch5370 2 жыл бұрын
dont watch this shit in bed then, watch indian guys making swimming pools instead lmao
@mirkomiccinilli5899
@mirkomiccinilli5899 3 жыл бұрын
When instruments gone wild,there's only one thing to do: come back.
@harmansidhu9171
@harmansidhu9171 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly man. They would’ve been alive
@mirkomiccinilli5899
@mirkomiccinilli5899 3 жыл бұрын
@@harmansidhu9171 Fly was in the night,and difficult to see around you? Ok got it,but the runaway have lights!
@mirkomiccinilli5899
@mirkomiccinilli5899 3 жыл бұрын
@David Sumner this happened when people haven't some training!
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 3 жыл бұрын
Yah that was pilot error. Well they tried until the end. RIP. But it was dark so you can’t put all the Blame on them
@mirkomiccinilli5899
@mirkomiccinilli5899 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienter7517 Of course,but city and airport don't
@jeka07
@jeka07 2 жыл бұрын
"Estamos impactando en el agua" This case is very scary, darkness and confusion ... It's the worst. Poor pilots, they flew to the heaven.
@carolinehoward180
@carolinehoward180 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been putting off watching this because the Air Crash Investigation episode was just horrifying. I had to take a break in the middle once the alarms started. Great video TFC. 👍
@lm7582
@lm7582 3 жыл бұрын
I could literally feel my blood pressure going up and my heart pounding. So heartbreaking, but masterfully recreated. As always, thank you, Flight Channel.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why, having picked up on their somewhat serious & confusing instrument fault after T/O, they didn't just declare an emergency & fly a visual hold/return pattern while they still had a big & well lit city for reference?
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Multiple instrument failure and they still have visual reference over the city. The pilots failed to act in a timely manner, and it resulted in disaster.
@TheGreenCouncil
@TheGreenCouncil 3 жыл бұрын
Or another plane to give them some redundancy in their altitude. If they have conflicting altitude from a plane that actually sees them, they’d notice ATC is also wrong with their indications. Trying to fly a plane with no redundancy is a recipe for failure.
@TheGreenCouncil
@TheGreenCouncil 3 жыл бұрын
@DetectiveRJ they chose to descend before coming up with the idea to use another plane for reference. Hey look our indicators may be off so why should we descend blindly?
@SvPVids
@SvPVids 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about saving face, The pilot community at least in Peru is extremely competitive and any mistake will ruin your career. Unfortunately, this happened in this case also. The pilots were highly criticized in Peru because they didn't wait for a guide plane before they started landing procedures. The airline took the mechanic that taped over the sensors as the fall guy and is now serving jail time.
@SvPVids
@SvPVids 3 жыл бұрын
@DetectiveRJ Not true, the airport is located in Callao that is almost the center of the capital that has the same strong lighting as it did in the 1960's. The places that he is talking about are the outskirts of lima that are really far away. The pilot's mistake was not to go parallel to the coast. Instead, he initially followed the waypoints to the sea thinking the instruments would correct themselves. Even if it were true that lima wasn't that brightly lit, The pilots were still looking at the black sea and its horizon for guidance, not Lima.
@soumyadeepm719
@soumyadeepm719 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of videos on this channel has improved so much. I bet after 10 years we would be watching his videos in VR and experience the feeling of the pilots and the passengers.
@greensombrero3641
@greensombrero3641 3 жыл бұрын
These are GREAT videos. thank you for sharing such awesome work.
@tedreynolds6363
@tedreynolds6363 3 жыл бұрын
I DON'T CARE WHAT POLICY IS, the first sign of trouble, turn that thing around and get back to the airport. I can get another job and save lives in the process. Sheer stupidity, and they all do it.
@wtficantgetausername
@wtficantgetausername 3 жыл бұрын
All these KZbin experts trumping YEARS of experience - things are always clear when I'm retrospect and presented like this. There are protocols for any given situation its just unfortunate that it wasn't properly diagnosed by the captain
@ChessArmyCommander
@ChessArmyCommander 3 жыл бұрын
Right. Into the airport pattern asap and land. Flaps and gear immediately and land in the grass if necessary.
@ericadender4069
@ericadender4069 3 жыл бұрын
@@wtficantgetausername yeah I agree. I think people forget that the pilots don't have all the information we do. I believe he couldn't even think about landing and was putting all his energy in keeping the plane airborne. His instruments were telling him that he was about to crash even though he wasn't and didn't know they were false for awhile. I do question why he went over water with no lights for reference I can only assume he didn't know his altitude was not effected or he thought atc could give him correct readings on it. They asked repeatedly for there altitude so I assumed he thought it was incorrect and he went there to circle back around to land and then everything went to hell. Did he handle it correctly? No. There's a startle factor too. We weren't up there so who knows. It's just very hard to see what's happening when your overwhelmed with warnings and alarms telling you conflicting information
@ChessArmyCommander
@ChessArmyCommander 3 жыл бұрын
@@malek4485 If they would have stopped proceeding at the initial indication of trouble, they would have still been able to see the airport after an attempt to return. Do you deny that proposition? And a pilot can fly airport patterns off of visual contact with the airport. That's easy due to all their airport pattern flying that they do.
@ChessArmyCommander
@ChessArmyCommander 3 жыл бұрын
@@malek4485 *of course they could have* And that's all I alluded to. I simply agreed with the part of the initial post (not the entire post), regarding how that if the pilot would have turned around ASAP, the plane may been saved. *but if every aircraft had to land the moment the smallest issue appeared the aviation industry would be a mess* You're making a fallacy of assumption about my position, that I advocated that, and nothing in my comment indicates that. All I said was, that if they would have turned around, then the whole problem could have been avoided. I never said that turning around was necessary or not from a pilot's perspective in these situations. *You have to consider what’s feasible and what isn’t* You're committing a straw man fallacy. I didn't make any claims about ought's. That pilots necessarily should do this or that, in an emergency, or due to an irregularity. *No pilot would immediately associate a faulty airspeed indicator with “we’re going to crash”* I didn't claim that the pilot should have understood the situation he was in, that way. So you have again, committed a strawman fallacy with regards to my position. Again, I merely said, that if the pilot would have done X rather than Y, then things would have turned out better, probably. *so there was no good reason to turn back so early* I can agree with that, and I will not be contradicting myself. Which shows that your response was a straw man fallacy, of my position.
@jamesrobert3167
@jamesrobert3167 3 жыл бұрын
"We are impacting water"..... Man... that was absolutely TERRIFYING...Still Thinking about that visual...
@slugcult-10_years_and
@slugcult-10_years_and 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I HATE the ocean, and this left me feeling uneasy. I'm not so much frightened by the ocean, there's just way too little control over any situations either swimming in it, sailing or flying over it, as well as having no clue what the hell is in it. I'd rather steer clear of it as much as I can. I've been on small boats, so far out in the ocean, that no land was visible and I was fine. And I have flown over it. But if I start overthinking about it while dealing with it, it freaks me out a little. This video did a good job of capturing that feeling. Great video, thanks. Cheers.
@scottscott232
@scottscott232 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for the crew and passengers. My heart goes out to all the relatives of those that died. The crew and passengers didn't stand a chance. The captain and First Officer tried so hard, but there was nothing that they could do. The odds were stacked against them from the very start. It was a doomed flight.
@vs-cw1wc
@vs-cw1wc 3 жыл бұрын
So, the captian was actually correct in cursing the ground crew. Damn. He's got the right intuition
@beva901
@beva901 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah well he was incorrect in just about everything else he did....
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 3 жыл бұрын
When does he say anything about the ground crew? Time stamp 👀🤔
@hugheskailey
@hugheskailey 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayluis189 8:21 they both say something about the ground crew. “they move everything” and “what have they done”
@MrZorro3250
@MrZorro3250 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn"t inspect his plane before taking off
@scottsilva2186
@scottsilva2186 3 жыл бұрын
@EvaMarieHamilton What did he do wrong? You do realize that this video is completely inaccurate, it's only clear in the video so you don't have to watch 20 minutes of a dense fog. There were no lights visible to the pilots, and runway 15 heads directly out to the ocean so they were probably over the water within the first 2 minutes of the flight.
@jamc666
@jamc666 3 жыл бұрын
captain : "we dont have altimeter" Control tower: "whats your altitude"
@raypitts4880
@raypitts4880 3 жыл бұрын
SOUNDED ALL ALONG TOWER AND PILOT NOT HEARING OR UNDERSTANDING THE OTHERS ACTION/PROBLEM
@wastews6985
@wastews6985 3 жыл бұрын
-What's you altitude? -Hold on a minute I'll throw something from a window and measure for how long would it take to hit the ground
@twikirobot6897
@twikirobot6897 3 жыл бұрын
-Do you have any vision? -Si -Si? -SEA !!!
@the_rover1
@the_rover1 3 жыл бұрын
our altitude is approx......three times pitch darkness FFS!!! 😁
@maniok1977
@maniok1977 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@necessaryJustice_4all
@necessaryJustice_4all 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of air disasters. I find flight simultaneously fascinating and terrifying. I always say a prayer for the souls lost on these planes. Almost all of these pilots have every bit of the skill and experience they need, it’s almost always equipment failure. This particular disaster is especially sad bc these brave men were flying blind in the night sky. I wish they would have listened to their instinct when the plane was stalling, but...when the tower is telling you that you’re altitude and speed are more than you need-who are they to know. The plane was telling them they were low, and needed to pull up, which is terrifying, bc they were so confused. May God watch over you now. May you sore with the angels now ladies and gentlemen. 🙏🏻
@Mibonitodesinaloa
@Mibonitodesinaloa 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle died in this flight. He was going to Chile to meet his wife and son.
@GoldenMushroom64
@GoldenMushroom64 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace
@Mibonitodesinaloa
@Mibonitodesinaloa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bigyankee2006
@bigyankee2006 3 жыл бұрын
7:43 F/O: "No basic instruments, no altimeter, no speedometer, declare emergency" 7:47 Tower: "Roger, Altitude?" A-R-E-Y-O-U-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-K-I-D-D-I-N-G-M-E-?
@vanessaruiz4705
@vanessaruiz4705 3 жыл бұрын
yeah... and also... I see nobody is blaming the ATC... Shouldnt the ATC know that the information he was receiving was coming from the plane's transponder, and therefore could be wrong as well??? shouldnt he know this?
@bigyankee2006
@bigyankee2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanessaruiz4705 You have all the reason
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 2 жыл бұрын
@@vanessaruiz4705 I'm not entirely certain ATC has that much of an intimate knowledge of a plane's inner workings.
@lauradalia9802
@lauradalia9802 2 жыл бұрын
The atc person is a dumb.. He should be fired, and the worker should have spent the rest of his life in prison
@hillaryhayman1
@hillaryhayman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@lauradalia9802 Hmmm..the idiot atc person should be jailed? Not the company who employed him, right? Your IQ ain’t much higher than mister ATC guy.
@TheAirplaneDriver
@TheAirplaneDriver 3 жыл бұрын
Every student pilot learns that when the airspeed indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator are not working it is almost certainly because of plugged static ports. Pitch plus power equals performance. Set the pitch attitude and power then fly the plane. How does a competent pilot pull the power, engage the speed brakes, and think that the airplane can possibly fly? Might as well just shut down the engines and hope for the best. Yikes.
@ShwetankT
@ShwetankT 3 жыл бұрын
they know it after this accident, no? hindsight is always 20/20.
@TheAirplaneDriver
@TheAirplaneDriver 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShwetankT - Nope. This is not a hindsight thing. Competent pilots sort stuff like this out before crashing. It is the incompetent pilots that figure it out only after slamming into the ground. Static port failure and its effect is Aviation 101. There were two pilots in the cockpit and they had plenty of time to figure it out. Less time arguing between themselves and calling ATC, and more time flying would have gotten them safely back down.
@ShwetankT
@ShwetankT 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAirplaneDriver What I meant was that usually after a major accident happens it is taught as a case study and only then the obvious stuff becomes obvious. May be I am wrong in this case. Cheers.
@TheAirplaneDriver
@TheAirplaneDriver 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShwetankT - got it. Sorry....I misunderstood.
@dimitrikemitsky
@dimitrikemitsky 3 жыл бұрын
This was not necessarily the case 20 years ago, and you are looking with the hindsight knowledge that it was the instruments that were all bad and controls that were all good. Pilots had no way of immediately knowing if the airbrake was properly engaged or the engines were giving the thrust they were set to. For all they knew, the airspeed was right and the engine power was wrong. Airspeed after all was being confirmed by the tower.
@FatCat823
@FatCat823 Жыл бұрын
Out of all of the videos that I've watched on this channel, this one so far is one that really gives me the chills. This video actually came to mind when I was driving at night recently, and I had just left a city and headed out into the dark on a country highway. At one point the gps took me onto an isolated country road that I was not familiar with, and for me that is not a good feeling at night! Just a very small taste of what these pilots were probably feeling when leaving the comfort of city lights and flying into pitch black without knowing what was happening to the plane.
@suspense_comix3237
@suspense_comix3237 Жыл бұрын
I like how simple these videos are to make yet how detailed they are. Someone could pull off these types of things with Blender or Autodesk Maya, but using MS Flight Simulator along with some clever camera angles and such, and masterpieces can be made.
@mrmustangman
@mrmustangman Жыл бұрын
i seriously doubt they are simple to make....
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 3 жыл бұрын
I continue to be shocked by the lack of basic flight knowledge in some pilots, they are entirely too dependent upon instruments. If the video is any indicator, the captain had some visual references early in the event, and given the nature of the problem , should have immediately called an emergency and asked for vectors back to Lima. In that instruments were failing, it seems absurd that either pilot would want to rely on them, yet the captain is constantly trying to reconcile instrument readings to the actual circumstances. A real lack of cockpit resource coordination.
@aeomaster32
@aeomaster32 3 жыл бұрын
That is because training is now focused on flying the computer. The result is a psychological disconnect from the actual airplane.
@ilsavv
@ilsavv 3 жыл бұрын
@@aeomaster32 So true!
@jeffchristie9561
@jeffchristie9561 3 жыл бұрын
I've FO'd for a few highly-regarded Capt's that were good w/the glass & etc but panicked when it failed & become highly agitated at everyone & everything, worsening the matter. Not all have, though; one in particular was cool as a cucumber & flew the plane manually w/no-gyro 'til he recycled it all. They're focusing inside even when taxiing, correcting in jolts all along the way when they actually look outside the windows. They, conversely, take issue w/my answer of "fly the plane" when asked what I'd do in particular situations. That's better than crashing the plane, ain't it?!
@fgkpev
@fgkpev 3 жыл бұрын
@@aeomaster32 when the airplanes fly themselves the main job of the pilot is to understand all the systems and troubleshoot them when they are not working as intended. In this case both pilots were incompetent, especially the idiot Captain.
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 3 жыл бұрын
It generally is bad to follow your natural sense instead of the instruments, but in situations like these you have no other choice, plus in spatial disorientation only motion and acceleration is affected, the sense of gravity pulling you down generally remains intact
@aeomaster32
@aeomaster32 3 жыл бұрын
When all else fails, go back to basics. You have three working attitude (note: attitude, not altitude) instruments which will allow you to to control the attitude (pitch or bank) of the plane. If you level the plane, and you set cruise power, it will fly normally. Now that you know the plane is under control, you can decide to ignore or cancel false warnings. Then you can look to see if any other instruments are operational. For example, ground speed from GPS or INS, is independent from computer air data information. The basic issue here was they were trying to fly a faulty computer rather than bypassing it and getting back to flying the real airplane.
@Trevor-gu8bb
@Trevor-gu8bb 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, this is basic instrument rating knowledge.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 жыл бұрын
As the aircraft didn’t have GPS wouldn’t you need true airspeed to calculate ground speed using the INS?
@CristianCarvajalC
@CristianCarvajalC 3 жыл бұрын
it must be easy to say it watching a youtube video... :/
@aeomaster32
@aeomaster32 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomstravels520 INS is an independent system and calculates position and ground speed based on inertial acceleration. You would infer airspeed from groundspeed and have a pretty good idea of what it was, and avoid the catastrophic conclusions the crew came to.
@aeomaster32
@aeomaster32 3 жыл бұрын
@@CristianCarvajalC I flew airliners for 30 years with airlines that had excellent training standards. Air France also lost control and crashed (stalled) into the Atlantic because they failed basic flying skills - once the autopilot failed them.
@camarossdriver
@camarossdriver 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just spent almost EIGHT HOURS of my day watching these videos. (I had pretty major arm surgery,so I guess I can use that as an excuse.) ✈️
@sculter8
@sculter8 3 жыл бұрын
So it looks like maybe some of the continuation school graduates may have "forgotten" to remove the critical sensors access holes, adhesive tape coverings, after the plane maintenance cleaning was done. Perhaps a preflight inspection of them should have been included in the flight preparation check-off list, then this whole situation could have been avoided.
@littlebitlost
@littlebitlost 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched a documentary on this flight last night (AGAIN). Just can't wrap my mind around a piece of duct tape bringing down a plane. RIP to all onboard. And, thank you for the upload! Hearing all of what the Captain and FO went through really drives it home.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 3 жыл бұрын
Put duct tape on the eyes of the pilot and get the same effect, which is essentially what happened to the plane's eyes.
@littlebitlost
@littlebitlost 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeonVisual I guess that's why they call it "flying blind" in all the docs made of this flight, huh.
@vipahman
@vipahman 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Krohn Not sure if they actually had a visual reference that night. This is just a simulation.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlebitlost Today a pilot could pull out their smartphone and find out exactly where they are, where they are going, what their altitude is and what their speed is.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Krohn Yeah not very clever is it. If my car headlights stopped working I wouldn't decide to take a road with no street lighting
@brainwaiver1
@brainwaiver1 3 жыл бұрын
What a terrific memorial to the pilots who could do little to avoid this disaster. Respect.
@jay_321
@jay_321 3 жыл бұрын
The pilots had spectacularly poor troubleshooting skills and that was at least half the problem.
@GLAviation
@GLAviation 3 жыл бұрын
@@jay_321 Indeed
@grandtheftavocado
@grandtheftavocado 3 жыл бұрын
The pilots could have been smarter.... they saw the altimeter wasn’t working properly and then just assumed it was working after it came up with the wrong data. They idled the engines and put air brakes on when they knew the air speed was broken but then trusted it later.
@gessl1940
@gessl1940 3 жыл бұрын
I hope to God you are not a pilot David. Because else the people in the fuselage of your plane are just as screwed. What a useless pilot. " I have no instruments", so let me turn over black ocean in the dead of night to confuse myself even more. Do me a favour dude...
@jay_321
@jay_321 3 жыл бұрын
@@grandtheftavocado But even if we overlook that these two "pilots" couldn't troubleshoot their way out of a wet paper bag; if they had had just a tiny bit of common sense they wouldn't have flown out over open water in the dark. Lets see... the altimeter and airspeed don't seem to be working and we can't figure out why, lets leave the lights of the city behind and fly completely blind. Unbelievably bad judgement.
@georgefarmer7196
@georgefarmer7196 2 жыл бұрын
Love how well all these videos are put together. I will also no longer fly ever again.
@Kareena1988
@Kareena1988 3 ай бұрын
Not even for love? 😂
@gaztastic
@gaztastic 3 жыл бұрын
The same exact thing happened to another 757 of another airline, the same year, a few months ago, Birgenair Flight 301. What's also a coincidence is that they both crashed while inverted, and into water, with pilots of the same culture.
@mortenguld3076
@mortenguld3076 3 жыл бұрын
Birgenair very different. Only one pitot failed, which should have been easily manageable. Here all three pitot/static systems were disabled.
@hcnagaveni8120
@hcnagaveni8120 3 жыл бұрын
It is always remarkable and outstanding quality content from TFC. Actually I have seen many more channels who try to give out more or less on the same topic as this but TFC just stands out unique and marvellous amongst all others
@silentios7336
@silentios7336 3 жыл бұрын
TFC is my favorite flight channel to watch. The rest are just mediocre at best compared to TFC!
@HellcatMad
@HellcatMad 3 жыл бұрын
None can top his
@johncandide
@johncandide 3 жыл бұрын
TFC and Allec Joshua Ibay
@readingsteiner1966
@readingsteiner1966 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncandide bro, Allec is really good too
@heystevo82
@heystevo82 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this on an episode of Air Crash Investigations and being flabbergasted that a piece of tape could bring down an aircraft. How terrifying for the pilots, realising they're flying blind. Could they have turned back earlier though, the moment they realised the instruments were malfunctioning, whilst they still had the lights of the city to guide them?
@breakbad9753
@breakbad9753 2 жыл бұрын
The graphics of this flight simulator is freaking beautiful
@brooklyn8376
@brooklyn8376 2 жыл бұрын
These simulations are cool but scary as hell. Good job flight channel for creating these
@malek4485
@malek4485 3 жыл бұрын
I felt so anxious watching this it was like I was one of the pilots...
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 3 жыл бұрын
Agree I was panicking in my head . But they tried until the end RIP
@qinachan4733
@qinachan4733 3 жыл бұрын
Me too😭😭😭
@Jsaiis
@Jsaiis 3 жыл бұрын
Me too 😳
@Myfellonmebadgirls
@Myfellonmebadgirls 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Myfellonmebadgirls
@Myfellonmebadgirls 3 жыл бұрын
Tell me something then
@gonavy1
@gonavy1 3 жыл бұрын
I was staining my pants just listening to the conversation in the cockpit. Can't even imagine what it was really like. What a shame just because of tape.
@calwilliams1506
@calwilliams1506 3 жыл бұрын
Why are males so base.
@gonavy1
@gonavy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@calwilliams1506 I try having a little couth while making a public comment. I know they're other words I could have used.
@twilightpurpleglow
@twilightpurpleglow 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me cry at the end. R.I.P. The Pilot, Co Pilot and crew and all passengers whose life were cut short. That was the end for the airline Aereoperu. Sad.
@davevalens9918
@davevalens9918 Жыл бұрын
I remember this same flight. I was working in Miami International airport as the baggage handler for this flight that night where it originated from before going to Santiago, Chile via Lima. Such a sad tragedy. God bless them all.
@aimeemarie8098
@aimeemarie8098 3 жыл бұрын
As terrifying as the real audio is, it’s interesting to hear. I’m always curious about why some flights have only transcripts of the recordings and some have real audio. Thanks for your hard work and quality video, as usual!
@jamesb1988
@jamesb1988 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess that it probably has something to do with respect/wishes of the people who perished. I totally get it, I'm not sure if I would want my loved ones last words before their death being available to the public.
@annemary9680
@annemary9680 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesb1988 I think it has more to do with being able to get the information intact.
@FatiFleur-jn7ky
@FatiFleur-jn7ky 2 жыл бұрын
Laws have changed. The demand to keep the voice recordings private came from pilots themselves after the crash of Delta Airlines flight 1141 and the release of the cvr: [...] where the crew - in extremely cruel irony - were bantering on the flight deck about what to say that would get captured on the CVR in case of a crash. That irony was then squared in that the bantering was a directly contributing cause of the crash, in that they forgot to deploy flaps and slats [...]
@diegus012
@diegus012 2 жыл бұрын
The CVR audio is the property of the airline, and you’ll probably notice that most leaked audio is from accidents involving now defunct airlines. An ex employee usually will leak the audio and since the airline no longer exists, there is no one to fight it.
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis
@MrMiD.Life.Crisis Жыл бұрын
@@FatiFleur-jn7ky is it true that in the delta 1141 cvr, they're bantering about a Continental Airlines crash and how the crew were discussing the dating habits of the flight attendants? I think that they release audio if something can be learnt from it. Or someone with access just can't help themselves.
@onebridge7231
@onebridge7231 3 жыл бұрын
Captain just seemed way out of his element and was in panic disbelief confused mode, while the First Officer seemed to actually trying to work through the problem. Emergency should have been called sooner.
@lukamilas8648
@lukamilas8648 3 жыл бұрын
I would’ve advised abort water landing immediately, taking no chances trying to fly that thing with all the readings screwed up. They were flying that thing completely blind, amazed they lasted as long as they did. The sound in their voices of sheer terror and panic was hard to listen to.
@dimitrikemitsky
@dimitrikemitsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukamilas8648 water landings in an airliner are basically death sentences, especially at night with no instruments. There is no such thing as an "abort water landing." That plane on the Hudson is famous because it's the exception. If they had managed to return to sight of land and visual reference, landing the plane would have been very possible even with no instruments, and much of their confusion would have been resolved visually.
@lukamilas8648
@lukamilas8648 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrikemitsky ok but their way ended up killing all of them. Obviously the best option would’ve been to turn around and land but some people who are pilots said that was impossible for them to do.
@poutinedream5066
@poutinedream5066 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute nightmare. It always amazes me how the crews always remain poised and professional right till the end. I would have lost. my. shit.
@clarsach29
@clarsach29 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of sheer horror this is likely one of the worst ever crashes. Aeroperu had to pay huge amounts in compensation to the families of the victims because investigators determined that many/most passengers would have survived the crash and been conscious, trying to escape an inverted aircraft, in the dark, as it slowly sank, with no way to get out....the mental anguish and fear they experienced meant the payments to their families were huge. I cannot imagine anything worse than this.
@lukabeast1150
@lukabeast1150 3 жыл бұрын
Got to love all these KZbin “pilots” in the comments that blames the pilots for their actions. Let’s get real this flight was absolutely doomed. All because a piece of tape. RIP everyone on the flight. Great work on the video again sir.
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 жыл бұрын
Even the report put blame on the pilots for failing to use other sources to determine estimated airspeed and altitude www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1719.pdf
@jonyjoe8464
@jonyjoe8464 3 жыл бұрын
we have years of expierence as youtube pilots, we know what we are doing.
@beva901
@beva901 3 жыл бұрын
I know plenty of real pilots who all agree this could have been mitigated had the pilots acted correctly
@lukabeast1150
@lukabeast1150 3 жыл бұрын
@@beva901 yea ok you troll
@beva901
@beva901 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukabeast1150 I’m not trolling lol I literally work for an airline. But ok
@OnARampageMogus
@OnARampageMogus 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! TheFlightChannel (TFC) is the BEST Plane-related channel on KZbin EVER!
@extremelyfast3727
@extremelyfast3727 3 жыл бұрын
I Agree
@nothingnothing3124
@nothingnothing3124 3 жыл бұрын
He is the worst channel on KZbin he even copied allec Joshna ibay
@nothingnothing3124
@nothingnothing3124 3 жыл бұрын
@Gabriel Godina agreed
@nothingnothing3124
@nothingnothing3124 3 жыл бұрын
@DavoPlayz no he sucks and sometimes copies vids from allec Joshna ibay
@nothingnothing3124
@nothingnothing3124 3 жыл бұрын
@DavoPlayz allec is a billion times better this channel sucks
@Randaddy25
@Randaddy25 2 жыл бұрын
Man, these are so well done. But, so damn sad. R.I.P. to those who've lost their lives to tragic circumstances like these.
@Randaddy25
@Randaddy25 Жыл бұрын
@@steverobinson1334 wtf are you on about?
@robanicich2878
@robanicich2878 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the flight channel videos I've watched this one hit me the hardest. I think it was probably due to hearing the pilots throughout the entire video and the utter confusion.
@shikhrrr6275
@shikhrrr6275 3 жыл бұрын
It's been multiple times and I am seeing that always the First Officer is right, but unfortunately the captain's supremacy has to pay...
@moons4363
@moons4363 3 жыл бұрын
Yep😏
@garym6206
@garym6206 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t really blame the captain for this one. The man was being told by ATC he was at 9,000ft, there was countless false warnings shouting at him in the cockpit and he couldn’t see a thing. RIP to everyone on board what a tragedy
@Prototyp3m1nd
@Prototyp3m1nd 3 жыл бұрын
@@garym6206 You can blame him for a lot, starting with not declaring an emergency and turning back around as soon as they had zero instrumentation at takeoff while they were still over the city. You'd have to be arrogant as can be to think you're in control with no instruments heading off towards a pitch black ocean. There are a number of crashes on this channel that were 100% preventable if the flight crew had acted rationally and this is one of them. At least the F/O kept his head. The captain was on a different level.
@hivram
@hivram 3 жыл бұрын
Now it’s different
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 3 жыл бұрын
The way some people will risk it while being thousands of feet in the air is beyond me, poor first officer at least he tried
@Bstn02152
@Bstn02152 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely heartbreaking god bless these pilots & passengers 😔🙏❤️
@StarFyre
@StarFyre Жыл бұрын
The thing that got me is that both the pilots and ATC didn't seem to realise that transponder Mode C showing the height of the airliner (to ATC radar) is actually provided by the aircraft itself. That's why both ATC and flight crew assumed they were at 9000 ft.
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
If the two pilots had their seats switched, maybe those passengers would have had a chance. Captain is an idiot, and First Officer is too nice.
@akitohatakeyama4533
@akitohatakeyama4533 3 жыл бұрын
dick head captain tried to save the plane.
@Tori-di2cf
@Tori-di2cf 2 жыл бұрын
F/O could have said "I have control."
@SAL-9000
@SAL-9000 2 жыл бұрын
That captain with his "Eh?" and "Eh!?". The thickness was evident in his voice.
@kait2972
@kait2972 2 жыл бұрын
@Umb O his problem was his over confidence in being able to solve the issue himself in the air and then his confirmation bias when he saw an instrument reading that matched what he believed or wanted to believe. For example, he believed the speed at times it made sense to him but not the stall warnings. He believed the altitude at times it made sense to him but not the tpws. The f/o seemed to understand that he couldn't trust any instruments, that with the engines idling the stall warnings were probably accurate and that they needed more help from the ground to resolve their situation. He didn't cause the instrument failures but he did a lot wrong after that.
@oaccc7822
@oaccc7822 2 жыл бұрын
you have airbrakes up&engines idle for some time and you think you're accelerating while maintaining altitude... the cap said "can't be possible" multiple times, yet still acted like it was, and then ignoring the stall warning, which could, instead, be possible... cApTaIn
@seiZ88
@seiZ88 3 жыл бұрын
when i saw the planes reflection on the water my anxiety and fear just went 📈📈📈 RIP to all those that have lost their lives and loved ones because of this accident
@cyndisbranti1594
@cyndisbranti1594 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine flying upside down. RIP
@Brendan-Black
@Brendan-Black 3 жыл бұрын
This one broke me more than all the other videos. I'm guessing it's because of the copious black box audio. But I admit to bursting into tears when the plane rolled into the water. R.I.P.
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