Crashing Inverted Into the Pacific Ocean Just After Takeoff | Flying Blind [With Real Audio]

[@tr5398]

As a frequent flyer for more than 20 years, when my flight gets cancelled or delayed for 'mechanical' reasons, I try to remember videos like these.

[@exxtortggs757]

Why that would just freak me out

[@herrbonk3635]

@@exxtortggs757 Sarcasm, I guess.

[@donaldzuramp4404]

And passengers act like sht when delays like this happens

[@TheoriginalMach2000]

I have been on 1000's a flights... I think 35% of those have been delayed for 'mechanical' reasons. At some point i got so paranoid i didn't get on some of those flights. a while later i just quit my job cause i got a fear of flying that was just too big to handle anymore. Crazy cause i loved flying for soo long

[@theoriginaltroll388]

The airport is the only place i can wait a day if necessary and not complain one bit

[@Vonononie]

The F/O was giving clear information and working out a plan for the captain. Better crew management could have resulted in a different outcome.

[@B3Band]

Or if the seats were switched.

[@macioluko9484]

Imagine if the guidance request was submitted 10 minutes earlier...

[@cookiebitesdust]

Man, that first officer was trying. RIP.

[@alienter7517]

He was fighting until the vary end. RIP

[@dtz1000]

@@alienter7517 Fighting the idiot captain.

[@timmy841212]

@@dtz1000 The captain got on my nerves. He reminded me of the captain on Saudi Flight 163.

[@mr_movieguru]

That first officer tried too save the situation. The Captain still believing his instruments to much.

[@byoshizaki1025]

First officer should have strongly challenged the idiot captain who was clueless until the very end.

[@haitechan6183]

My classmate's dad died in that flight. Classmate was around 10 yo and his little sister (my younger sister's classmate) was 6. Decades later, I met the pilot's younger brother, he was my mom's car mechanic. The world is truly really small.

[@Morpheen999]

I think the biggest piloting mistake is noticing that instruments are incorrect, and then flying into the black away from any visual reference....

[@trulygrateful1117]

Seriously. 1st thing I thought about was that I’d have immediately radioed in an emergency and started turning back to the lights while they can still be seen during the process of turning the flight around. It @ least gives you something to go off of instead of just the blackest of night.

[@nitroburner1838]

Yeah...radio atc and tell them you need to make an emergency landing...circle back around the airport, land, deplane, investigate

[@MI1T]

@@trulygrateful1117 Correct, but not by instructions. Premature actions can cause alot of problems. And if those actions will lead to damage or even deaths, pilots will be to blame. In any abnormal situation, most emergency procedures starts with leveling flight and opening Airplane Flying Handbook with corresponding chapter. If they are not trained on simulator 100 times. Level flight was in question. Circumstances were not in favor of this flight.

[@MonkeyBuRps]

Surprised they didn't use the stars that disappeared over the horizon as a visual reference, in addition to the full moOn.

[@trulygrateful1117]

@@MonkeyBuRps They did...they tried to turn the plane ✈️ upside down to find it [ the moon ] . 😄 😉

[@katiemii3234]

the fear in the first officers voice when he says they were hitting the water is so heartbreaking

[@raypitts4880]

MY THOUGHTS THAT PILOT WAS A SO AND SO F/O FIGHTING HIM ALL THE TIME.

[@kimberlymiller1396]

The F/O sounds so scared when he says, "we are impacting water." This is utterly terrifying.

[@alienter7517]

The sound in the background too of the water impact

[@ravenleader5618]

At that speed, it's the same as concrete..!

[@kyle1m]

he realized the mistake right then and there, the instrument was very wrong

[@nofurtherwest3474]

@@alienter7517 if they had landed on the belly (right side up) could they have survived?

[@CocoTaveras8975]

@@nofurtherwest3474 Not at that speed into rough seas, plus, even if they had survived the initial impact, they could have easily drowned or died of hypothermia well before any help could have arrived.

[@lastone3498]

This accident has always been discussed over the years at my Aircraft Maintenance training institute in order to remind everyone what a simple mistake could lead to in aviation…rip to those on board the flight

[@rjv-rw2ef]

That's one wild mistake. Half way into the video and the Capitan is STILL wondering why the meters aren't working. And now he is out in the sea. Half way in and in already triggered.

[@Jay-vr9ir]

That is the reason , I never fly, not enough safety nets and a crashes happen way too fast , to be able to save yourself .

[@seditiouswalrus]

@@Jay-vr9ir you can die walking outside.

[@rtphotos4691]

@@rjv-rw2ef - What was "already triggered?"

[@johndez9398]

What can a pilot do in a situation like this if instrumentation is down or giving erroneous readings and the pilot isn’t furnished with visual references?

[@jjm8224]

This was just horrible to watch, I was feeling stressed. RIP all passengers and pilots.

[@latashahoward3943]

I know! I truly get so worked up watching these crash simulations to the point where I'm sweating and my heart is beating out of my chest. I guess it's because I imagine myself being a passenger and I know what I'm imagining is not even close to what these poor people actually went through. For me the worst ways to die are in a plane crash, burning alive and being at the top of the World Trade Center having to jump.

[@alienter7517]

@@latashahoward3943. Yah 9/11 was horrible not only people died even people lost their jobs when some airlines went bankrupt. RIP to all the people that died those days

[@nurse7559]

Just fucking horrifying.

[@terryschnereger8531]

Don't forget RIP autopilot

[@mariebernier3076]

@@bigballz4u Yes that was Hisashi Ouchi, a Japanese worker at the Tokaimura plant. He received a dose of radiation incompatible with life.

[@a_rissa.baybee8299]

Aw man.. there were so many issues .. so many issues. That poor FO who couldn’t get a word in edgewise , he tried , he really did. RIP to everyone lost in this tragedy

[@shmuelman]

The Captain seemed to be a very stubborn man.

[@greg77389]

@@shmuelman There's one thing all stubborn people should know: You'll never win an argument with death.

[@irfansheen5362]

Flying into pitch dark with faulty instruments was a fatal mistake. They should have returned before leaving the lights of Lima and entering into the deadly darkness.

[@williamsimmons152]

Just because a driver has 22 thousand hours, doesn’t mean he’s smart.

[@VaporheadATC]

@@williamsimmons152 He's not dumb either. A pilot that has accumulated that many flight hours has the experience, but just goes to prove that it doesn't matter how many hours you have, you are still human and humans make mistakes.

[@samuraifugitivo]

Lima is a very cloudy city, in a winter night you wont see a shit even 2 minutes aftet take off.

[@j.walker6845]

@@samuraifugitivo In this case the best thing would be to climb above the clouds and then radio for help

[@samuraifugitivo]

@@j.walker6845 do you understand “you cant see nothing”?, man, have you ever been in an airliner cockpit in a dark night (cloudy, no moon)?, man, you cant see a shit!, all you have is your instruments! Go above the clouds! Hahahaha, something like “next exit ahead” in your highway trip?, man, understand, in cities like lima just a very few minutes from take off there is literally nothing to see!, specially at night and during winter time. No clouds to see, no stars, no moon. How can you go above something you cant see?. Pilots knew they could reach altitude limit and the engines will shut down. They could reach speed limit and the aircraft frame will break. Understand , without instruments and no visual reference, you are done!

[@blondkarol]

This is just unbelievable that after noticing that the airspeed indicator is still going up after setting the engines to idle and extending the speedbrakes the captain was still trusting the readings from flight instruments. Not to mention he shouldn't even have left limits of the city with obvious instruments failure during a pitch black night.

[@Jay-vr9ir]

I never fly , the last time I crossed the Atlantic a few years ago , it was on The Queen Mary 2 .

[@jamesoncurry5224]

thinking the same thing, otherwise you have no points of reference and you are in deep trouble.

[@wojciech5177]

I was watching another video from this series, where the Captain did NOT trust the instruments and that caused the crash 🤷

[@gregorcutt1199]

It's difficult. Lots of crashes have happened because the pilots did not trust their instruments. But certainly in this case they should not have left sight of the city!

[@bbs5400]

Pilots are trained to forget their intuition and to trust their instruments, as loss of situational awareness and not trusting your instruments causes a lot of accidents. Also, my first thought when they said to go right over the water was, "good, they'll get away from all of these buildings they could crash into and kill more people", until I remembered they didn't have altitude, that alone meant they should stay within VFR

[@foilhattiest1]

I think if I was hearing "TOO LOW TERRAIN" as a pilot, I'd always want to go UP regardless of what anybody or anything else says. The potential risks involved with incorrectly going up at that point seem a lot more benign than the risks involved with incorrectly going down.

[@clouds53]

💯

[@pierre-xr4bp]

The point is there was so many alarms that they couldn't figure out which one was true

[@Holland1994D]

And what if the too low terrain was also faulty? Yes it was the correct one, but I do think that you are talking in hindsight, as these pilots had no idea what was happening and were not trained for this.

[@foilhattiest1]

​@@Holland1994D Well sure, but, if that warning was also faulty, then so what? It wouldn't matter much because there's rarely any danger in climbing higher (unless you go up past the altitude the aircraft can physically handle but these pilots already knew they were much lower than that). The terrain warning has the most guaranteed lethal consequences if not responded to immediately and the consequences of responding to it incorrectly are virtual non existant (unless you hit another plane flying above you, but what are the odds of that) so I still maintain that if in any doubt whatsoever, it's always better to go up than down if your plane is telling you you should.

[@gerrywhelan5761]

Yes, take the far less risky option, but different people react differently to high stress situations, I have see people do silly things in high stress situations, couldn't get their thinking straight till they were corrected.

[@LV2UXO77]

The F/O said, "We're impacting water, trying to pull it up, The captain responds saying, "I have it, I have it!" All because of a piece of adhesive tape! This is inconceivable! I'm so very sorry to all the family members who lost loved ones aboard this flight! What a tragedy!!!

[@leslieslovelies6268]

I believe pilot error was also a factor. After takeoff and before tower signed off, they didn’t communicate the problem, nor immediately declare an emergency, nor keep their cool, including captain shouting at first officer to not tell ATC about stick shaker, captain not realizing he didn’t decrease speed he increased himself, etc. etc. etc. I think the captain’s ego got in the way of his professionalism.

[@747-pilot]

Not just that, but whoever was assigned to do the preflight "walk around" did not do a proper job!! Although many pilots have a cavalier attitude towards this procedure, it is an EXTREMELY important part of the pre-flight prep work! If they had done a proper and thorough job, the tape, left over on the static port, would have been discovered, saving them from this terrible tragedy!

[@leslieslovelies6268]

747-pilot That’s a moot point. The aftermath could’ve been prevented had the pilots done their due diligence when maintenance man failed to do his.

[@747-pilot]

@@leslieslovelies6268 That's exactly what I'm saying! The pilots did not do their jobs during the preflight walk around, and also when things escalated in the cockpit. Aviation accidents are always a "chain of events". And the "chain" failed at every stage in this case!

[@thorgarbinwessel-kjenner7736]

@@747-pilot The tape was almost invisible, this accident is the reason why all taping of pitots and sensors must be marked with big orange markers, clearly visible. From beneath the wings in darkness they were impossible to see. Even using flashlight. Saying that, I don't understand why they didn't turn around as soon as the problems rose.

[@jetblast5902]

@@leslieslovelies6268 I believe their main mistake was to lose visual ground references with city's lights. I don't understand why they headed to the ocean whereas they had any instruments providing correct information...

[@germyw]

Man! This one was especially sad because of what little it took to down a whole plane AND the f/o was trying SO hard.

[@matthewmasuka4390]

The Captain's arrogance annoyed me

[@aicerg]

@@matthewmasuka4390 my jaw dropped when he yelled "don't tell him any of that!" when the FO was trying to rely information about the faulty instruments on the controller.

[@irvancrocs1753]

Wow many of their instruments gave wrong inputs, alarm sounds keep coming in every corners at short time, no visual reference, and worse of all they had to fly at night, what a nightmare fuel, i know they sound panicking because one problem after one problem keep coming before they can react properly, but still i feel really sorry for them to experience that, they still tried their best, rest in peace for all people onboard..

[@larrybe2900]

I just wonder why when they put actual inputs into the plane by slowing the engines a light did not come on even with all the chaos. There is a problem when automation takes away the common sense of doing without.

[@irvancrocs1753]

@Martin Svensson They were flying to ocean because they thought the problem isn't serious and probably "planned" to continue the flight, since this was before most alarms ringing because the problem, notice even how the captain told FO not to notify atc for landing because they had to stabilize the plane first, all and all that was the fatal mistake they had done.. For idling maybe because they thought they were still overspeed since captain was confused after speedbreaker was already deployed but the speed for some reason was still really high, even tho they should realize the speed indicator always faulty..

[@irvancrocs1753]

@Martin Svensson Yeah lost focus is one hell of killer, this crash might be prevented if one of the chains who led to disaster is cut away, but none of them succeeded..

[@pineappleroad]

I'm not 100% sure, but I recall from somewhere that when they reach 80 knots during takeoff they are supposed to check that the captains and first officers airspeed indicators show the same reading, and if the readings don't match, they are supposed to abort takeoff (this check should always be done when it is still safe to abort takeoff)

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@pineappleroad Maybe the regulation to do that happen in modern days but not back then, but i could be wrong..

[@jwilson5328]

I would rather get thrown off a cliff than die like this. This is one of my primal fears flying over the ocean at night. imagine being the mateninace guy who forgot the tape on the sensors........pure negligence and manslaughter charges.

[@RunPJs]

I would imagine any punishment he receives would never compare to the guilt he will have for the rest of his life.

[@jwilson5328]

@@RunPJs you are very correct 👏

[@TheRatlord74]

The passengers probably knew little about it until the last few seconds. They wouldn't have been able to see anything through the windows and the plane wasn't performing any aggressive manoeuvres until it inverted at the end.

[@jwilson5328]

@@TheRatlord74 once that wing tip hit the water I'm pretty sure everyone was awake because that noise was loud enough to get picked up by the recorder. I could NOT even imagine the fear then immediate drowning.

[@lenny108]

Problem was before take-off the captain forgot to walk around the plane with a torchlight and check all the sensors

[@RaineStudio]

Our most important flight instruments have all gone crazy. Okay, let's just fly out over the dark ocean then.

[@jesuswasjewish5289]

Yeah what a dodo the captain was

[@aldenunion]

When losing power possibility and the city population below,he should of left possiblity of going down in populated area while still keeping city horizon as visual reference..... Never should of decreased below 20\15,000 ft until visual reference was attained because other aircraft were on the way.. Easy to say when career is on the line. He got angry when F\O ASKED for reference aircraft guidance rescue but Responsible for lives Ego must be secondary...They sure needed to buy time for guiding aircraft.. Sad mishap... They cover ports for insect nesting or cleaning,would be first on my checklist as a pilot and F\O should perform redundant SOP as well for his checklist..As a Passenger I would examine such before boarding with my loved ones...True Story flight 101..

[@twistedyogert]

@@aldenunion Aren't Pitot tubes normally checked before flight to begin with?

[@33moneyball]

And both were responding the entire time to obviously bogus information. Idling the engine cause of the “overspeed” warning. You don’t know what the speed is...neither does the plane.

[@ChickenJoe788]

You brain dead internet people need to remember that the animation that this video is probably looked nothing like the real situation.

[@chrisgwynne1586]

Most people can see that the captain panicked and lost all rational thought. He'd agree with the instruments one moment but change his mind the next, completely lost situational awareness, or any logical thread. Reminds me a lot of Air France Flight 447.

[@elsingon7464]

That captain had Ego problem also

[@kurtstark9966]

@@elsingon7464 i think the same, he tried to overcall his FO decision or opinions, and thought he would figure out the problem all by himself...

[@RatPfink66]

@@elsingon7464 which in itself kept him from a) listening to his f/o or b) declaring emergency until the last possible moment _or later_

[@wikkidfury]

@ Chris Gwynne Flight 447 was F/O Bonin TRYING to be a hero but getting EVERYONE killed (with his own wife Isabelle, she was on the flight with him) when the pitot tubes froze up at 35,000 ft from bad turbulence. He turned off the auto-pilot and took control of the Airbus himself, pitching the nose up with his side stick and causing a stall. His co-pilot F/O Robert was trying to help him and he was pushing his side stick up--but on an A-330, those two actions done simultaneously cancel each other out. Had Bonin NOT turned off the auto-pilot and just let the plane continue on it's flight path, this crash would have never happened. The pitot tubes would have de-iced and read correctly after little more than a minute. This whole crash was caused by him, and happened solely bcuz of HIS actions!!!😢 As a result, the A-330 slammed into the ocean belly first dropping 10,000 ft/min at 300 mph. Everyone on board perished instantly from being pancaked and the Airbus was obliterated. It took them over 2 years to find the CVR and FDR, as well as recover what they could of the wreckage. R.I.P.🙏🇫🇷

[@Samir-dy6le]

Well it is a tragedy, but panicking already ten seconds into a "situation" as a pilot should not even be a thing. The first officer should have been the one flying. From the cvr at least, one lost his mind completely and one was still able to keep the plane flying at least.

[@lm7582]

I could literally feel my blood pressure going up and my heart pounding. So heartbreaking, but masterfully recreated. As always, thank you, Flight Channel.

[@tedreynolds6363]

I DON'T CARE WHAT POLICY IS, the first sign of trouble, turn that thing around and get back to the airport. I can get another job and save lives in the process. Sheer stupidity, and they all do it.

[@wtficantgetausername]

All these KZbin experts trumping YEARS of experience - things are always clear when I'm retrospect and presented like this. There are protocols for any given situation its just unfortunate that it wasn't properly diagnosed by the captain

[@ChessArmyCommander]

Right. Into the airport pattern asap and land. Flaps and gear immediately and land in the grass if necessary.

[@ericadender4069]

@@wtficantgetausername yeah I agree. I think people forget that the pilots don't have all the information we do. I believe he couldn't even think about landing and was putting all his energy in keeping the plane airborne. His instruments were telling him that he was about to crash even though he wasn't and didn't know they were false for awhile. I do question why he went over water with no lights for reference I can only assume he didn't know his altitude was not effected or he thought atc could give him correct readings on it. They asked repeatedly for there altitude so I assumed he thought it was incorrect and he went there to circle back around to land and then everything went to hell. Did he handle it correctly? No. There's a startle factor too. We weren't up there so who knows. It's just very hard to see what's happening when your overwhelmed with warnings and alarms telling you conflicting information

[@ChessArmyCommander]

@@malek4485 If they would have stopped proceeding at the initial indication of trouble, they would have still been able to see the airport after an attempt to return. Do you deny that proposition? And a pilot can fly airport patterns off of visual contact with the airport. That's easy due to all their airport pattern flying that they do.

[@ChessArmyCommander]

@@malek4485 *of course they could have* And that's all I alluded to. I simply agreed with the part of the initial post (not the entire post), regarding how that if the pilot would have turned around ASAP, the plane may been saved. *but if every aircraft had to land the moment the smallest issue appeared the aviation industry would be a mess* You're making a fallacy of assumption about my position, that I advocated that, and nothing in my comment indicates that. All I said was, that if they would have turned around, then the whole problem could have been avoided. I never said that turning around was necessary or not from a pilot's perspective in these situations. *You have to consider what’s feasible and what isn’t* You're committing a straw man fallacy. I didn't make any claims about ought's. That pilots necessarily should do this or that, in an emergency, or due to an irregularity. *No pilot would immediately associate a faulty airspeed indicator with “we’re going to crash”* I didn't claim that the pilot should have understood the situation he was in, that way. So you have again, committed a strawman fallacy with regards to my position. Again, I merely said, that if the pilot would have done X rather than Y, then things would have turned out better, probably. *so there was no good reason to turn back so early* I can agree with that, and I will not be contradicting myself. Which shows that your response was a straw man fallacy, of my position.

[@Asia-sk8lc]

This really hurts, cause of some Damn tape!!?!

[@chelsea431]

cant believe it

[@lonerebeI]

And Captain error. First officer tried to get help

[@_RickySpanish_]

I can’t wrap my head around the fact that they all thought they was at 9-10,000 ft when they where only like what 100ft from the water? And then they actually hit the water 😢 That must have been absolutely terrifying 😩

[@bigyankee2006]

7:43 F/O: "No basic instruments, no altimeter, no speedometer, declare emergency" 7:47 Tower: "Roger, Altitude?" A-R-E-Y-O-U-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-K-I-D-D-I-N-G-M-E-?

[@vanessaruiz4705]

yeah... and also... I see nobody is blaming the ATC... Shouldnt the ATC know that the information he was receiving was coming from the plane's transponder, and therefore could be wrong as well??? shouldnt he know this?

[@bigyankee2006]

@@vanessaruiz4705 You have all the reason

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@vanessaruiz4705 I'm not entirely certain ATC has that much of an intimate knowledge of a plane's inner workings.

[@lauradalia9802]

The atc person is a dumb.. He should be fired, and the worker should have spent the rest of his life in prison

[@hillarybillary21]

@@lauradalia9802 Hmmm..the idiot atc person should be jailed? Not the company who employed him, right? Your IQ ain’t much higher than mister ATC guy.

[@loddude5706]

I don't understand why, having picked up on their somewhat serious & confusing instrument fault after T/O, they didn't just declare an emergency & fly a visual hold/return pattern while they still had a big & well lit city for reference?

[@flyoverkid55]

My thoughts exactly. Multiple instrument failure and they still have visual reference over the city. The pilots failed to act in a timely manner, and it resulted in disaster.

[@TheGreenCouncil]

Or another plane to give them some redundancy in their altitude. If they have conflicting altitude from a plane that actually sees them, they’d notice ATC is also wrong with their indications. Trying to fly a plane with no redundancy is a recipe for failure.

[@TheGreenCouncil]

@DetectiveRJ they chose to descend before coming up with the idea to use another plane for reference. Hey look our indicators may be off so why should we descend blindly?

[@SvPVids]

It's all about saving face, The pilot community at least in Peru is extremely competitive and any mistake will ruin your career. Unfortunately, this happened in this case also. The pilots were highly criticized in Peru because they didn't wait for a guide plane before they started landing procedures. The airline took the mechanic that taped over the sensors as the fall guy and is now serving jail time.

[@SvPVids]

@DetectiveRJ Not true, the airport is located in Callao that is almost the center of the capital that has the same strong lighting as it did in the 1960's. The places that he is talking about are the outskirts of lima that are really far away. The pilot's mistake was not to go parallel to the coast. Instead, he initially followed the waypoints to the sea thinking the instruments would correct themselves. Even if it were true that lima wasn't that brightly lit, The pilots were still looking at the black sea and its horizon for guidance, not Lima.

[@britneygervais1192]

"Terrain" Scariest words I'll ever hear

[@SouthwesternEagle]

Definitely! I never thought I'd be traumatized by the word "terrain".

[@meedah3500]

Yea... i

[@meedah3500]

I’m scared to fly on planes now... maybe I’ll just stay home

[@SouthwesternEagle]

@@meedah3500 With COVID-19, it's best you stay home anyway.

[@meedah3500]

And the way the F/O was saying “HAWA!!!/ WATER!!” Made me even more scared. He sounded like he was genuinely struggling

[@KrK007]

I've never heard the "Too low--- Terrain!" warning sound for this length of time. Usually on these air accident videos, when you hear that, there's only seconds left. It's stressful just to watch.... I can't imagine what it would be like to be in that cockpit....

[@Robert_N]

The aircraft must've been on a shallow descent.

[@Injudiciously]

It's times like that you wished you took a baseball bat to deal with the thickos.

[@fra93ilgrande]

PULL UP (or 💀 )

[@garden0fstone736]

Imagine being out there and watching a huge commercial plane just like 10 feet above the water for miles

[@standoughope]

Even though I knew they'd crash I was on the edge of my seat throughout that disturbing audio. Just layer upon layer of confusion, what a nightmare... all caused by some tape. RIP Aeroperú Flight 603

[@javianjohnson8746]

The entire video using real life audio recordings made this special. Try to do this more often if you can please

[@Lee-eu6wf]

I wouldn't use special when 70 people died but certainly more intense

[@ayoutuber2011]

He does. On all his videos on this channel.

[@brandonadams6574]

Watching this gave me chills…flying over water at night, can’t tell if you are too close to the water until it’s too late. RIP to all on board

[@istrumguitars]

It's really a shame the public can't access more of these cockpit recordings. It reveals a LOT more about the nature and tension of these situations, and gives a level of understanding you just won't get from reading transcripts.

[@Reggie-The-Dog]

In other words you want to hear them as they die. Nice.

[@badass1g]

Man can you imagine the panic with all that going on? That video gave me anxiety and I’m laying in a comfortable bed. Sad :-/

[@111highgh]

Whoop whoop, pull up.

[@shuilynmua8584]

Same.

[@232K7]

Mood.

[@trulygrateful1117]

😬😳🙄😳😬

[@oliverrch5370]

dont watch this shit in bed then, watch indian guys making swimming pools instead lmao

[@hcnagaveni8120]

It is always remarkable and outstanding quality content from TFC. Actually I have seen many more channels who try to give out more or less on the same topic as this but TFC just stands out unique and marvellous amongst all others

[@silentios7336]

TFC is my favorite flight channel to watch. The rest are just mediocre at best compared to TFC!

[@HellcatMad]

None can top his

[@thasboy]

TFC and Allec Joshua Ibay

[@readingsteiner1966]

@@thasboy bro, Allec is really good too

[@jayluis189]

The fear in the pilot's voice saying they're impacting water 😳😣😣.. Damn

[@galbeeri8360]

And that sound! Ffffhhhhhhhh 😳

[@claudiomc781]

But he sounds calm when he said we are gonna invert .

[@richardmacdonald2842]

This is why the captain’s walk around and final walk around done by technician before blocking aircraft is so critical.

[@shikhrrr6275]

It's been multiple times and I am seeing that always the First Officer is right, but unfortunately the captain's supremacy has to pay...

[@moons4363]

Yep😏

[@garym6206]

You can’t really blame the captain for this one. The man was being told by ATC he was at 9,000ft, there was countless false warnings shouting at him in the cockpit and he couldn’t see a thing. RIP to everyone on board what a tragedy

[@Prototyp3m1nd]

@@garym6206 You can blame him for a lot, starting with not declaring an emergency and turning back around as soon as they had zero instrumentation at takeoff while they were still over the city. You'd have to be arrogant as can be to think you're in control with no instruments heading off towards a pitch black ocean. There are a number of crashes on this channel that were 100% preventable if the flight crew had acted rationally and this is one of them. At least the F/O kept his head. The captain was on a different level.

[@hivram]

Now it’s different

[@B3Band]

If the two pilots had their seats switched, maybe those passengers would have had a chance. Captain is an idiot, and First Officer is too nice.

[@akitohatakeyama4533]

dick head captain tried to save the plane.

[@Tori-di2cf]

F/O could have said "I have control."

[@SAL-9000]

That captain with his "Eh?" and "Eh!?". The thickness was evident in his voice.

[@kait2972]

@Umb O his problem was his over confidence in being able to solve the issue himself in the air and then his confirmation bias when he saw an instrument reading that matched what he believed or wanted to believe. For example, he believed the speed at times it made sense to him but not the stall warnings. He believed the altitude at times it made sense to him but not the tpws. The f/o seemed to understand that he couldn't trust any instruments, that with the engines idling the stall warnings were probably accurate and that they needed more help from the ground to resolve their situation. He didn't cause the instrument failures but he did a lot wrong after that.

[@oaccc7822]

you have airbrakes up&engines idle for some time and you think you're accelerating while maintaining altitude... the cap said "can't be possible" multiple times, yet still acted like it was, and then ignoring the stall warning, which could, instead, be possible... cApTaIn

[@drakesavory2019]

That F/O was the real pilot. The Captain was too worried about his career.

[@B3Band]

Well, how did his career end up after this crash?

[@kimberlymiller1396]

Totally agree

[@THYB737]

And about the autopilot.

[@tgruzs8015]

Lemme tell you something Why did they crash: when they took off they had a problem that the plane was so fast that it crash but here is the problem ptfs when you stalled then made it to long to stall the speed will go up stalling fast that was is happening but it will destroy then power on the plane making it lose contact and autopilot disable

[@doom-generation4109]

@@tgruzs8015 Impossible to read.

[@Vicki1058]

I love how you make these videos so realistic. I feel bad for the people who’s family died in these crashes, yet, what you do, the research and the taking the time to help us understand what happened in these aircraft crashes, is commendable. Thank you.

[@AirportPlaneSpotting]

And goodnight

[@heystevo82]

I remember seeing this on an episode of Air Crash Investigations and being flabbergasted that a piece of tape could bring down an aircraft. How terrifying for the pilots, realising they're flying blind. Could they have turned back earlier though, the moment they realised the instruments were malfunctioning, whilst they still had the lights of the city to guide them?

[@jamesrobert3167]

"We are impacting water"..... Man... that was absolutely TERRIFYING...Still Thinking about that visual...

[@theaveragesimmer4780]

"mayday mayday mayday, this is flight 603, none of our instruments are working properly, we are returning to the airport. I may have to land this manually. turn left back to the airport." Why didnt the pilots do this within 5 minutes of takeoff?

[@terrenceholt44]

I don’t get why a lot of these after take offs never just turn around. I would rather lose my license than to wait on ATC and save my life

[@mickmeadows]

Agree. I never understand it. My only comment from my own experience working in a toxic culture is sometimes the pressure to meet deadlines can be intense. But that is no excuse especially with lived at stake, just something I’ve experienced before (toxic work culture). RIP.

[@kimberlymiller1396]

I thought the same thing. TURN AROUND NOW! Don't fly over the black sea to trouble shoot!

[@nicholasbutler153]

I agonised over this for years. Eventually, I found a part in the transcript where the first officer requests vectors for the runway and the Captain interjects with "Not yet, let's stabilise". He apparently thought they'd be better staying away from the airport, working out what was wrong, fixing the problem and then landing. He was sadly terribly mistaken.

[@kennethwarburton177]

Was thinking the same, while they still had visual contact with the ground.

[@Aki-to]

I thought the "TERRAIN" alarm was the scariest thing I could hear from the recordings. Until I heard the plane literally touching the ocean floor. Holy shit. Usually, in case of crashes, the sound immediately cuts off. But to hear not only the crash itself, but a dip into the water, without immediately crashing is extremely terrifying. Ho. Lee. Shit.

[@zubibuubi7359]

Its Better Not... To Fly... Or Abort Takeoff...

[@isabellind1292]

It appeared they hit the water and then got airborne again, enough to flip over before it hit the water again. Hearing the poor co-pilot asking how could they not be flying too low if they were experiencing sticker-shake is so sad. I also wonder if people in 1st class/business class can hear all those bells & whistles going off in the cockpit. They sound really loud. Those poor people, RIP all lost souls.❤🌹

[@dannyr333]

Capt. Som ting Wong Ho li fuk Wi tu lo Bang ding ow

[@noahtek1101]

I didn’t hear it

[@noahtek1101]

I don’t think that last sound is from the actual recording, it’s a sound they put in all of the videos where it ends in an impact.

[@littlebitlost]

Just watched a documentary on this flight last night (AGAIN). Just can't wrap my mind around a piece of duct tape bringing down a plane. RIP to all onboard. And, thank you for the upload! Hearing all of what the Captain and FO went through really drives it home.

[@NeonVisual]

Put duct tape on the eyes of the pilot and get the same effect, which is essentially what happened to the plane's eyes.

[@littlebitlost]

@@NeonVisual I guess that's why they call it "flying blind" in all the docs made of this flight, huh.

[@vipahman]

@Dan Krohn Not sure if they actually had a visual reference that night. This is just a simulation.

[@NeonVisual]

@@littlebitlost Today a pilot could pull out their smartphone and find out exactly where they are, where they are going, what their altitude is and what their speed is.

[@NeonVisual]

@Dan Krohn Yeah not very clever is it. If my car headlights stopped working I wouldn't decide to take a road with no street lighting

[@TheAirplaneDriver]

Every student pilot learns that when the airspeed indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator are not working it is almost certainly because of plugged static ports. Pitch plus power equals performance. Set the pitch attitude and power then fly the plane. How does a competent pilot pull the power, engage the speed brakes, and think that the airplane can possibly fly? Might as well just shut down the engines and hope for the best. Yikes.

[@ShwetankT]

they know it after this accident, no? hindsight is always 20/20.

[@TheAirplaneDriver]

@@ShwetankT - Nope. This is not a hindsight thing. Competent pilots sort stuff like this out before crashing. It is the incompetent pilots that figure it out only after slamming into the ground. Static port failure and its effect is Aviation 101. There were two pilots in the cockpit and they had plenty of time to figure it out. Less time arguing between themselves and calling ATC, and more time flying would have gotten them safely back down.

[@ShwetankT]

@@TheAirplaneDriver What I meant was that usually after a major accident happens it is taught as a case study and only then the obvious stuff becomes obvious. May be I am wrong in this case. Cheers.

[@TheAirplaneDriver]

@@ShwetankT - got it. Sorry....I misunderstood.

[@dimitrikemitsky]

This was not necessarily the case 20 years ago, and you are looking with the hindsight knowledge that it was the instruments that were all bad and controls that were all good. Pilots had no way of immediately knowing if the airbrake was properly engaged or the engines were giving the thrust they were set to. For all they knew, the airspeed was right and the engine power was wrong. Airspeed after all was being confirmed by the tower.

[@jamc666]

captain : "we dont have altimeter" Control tower: "whats your altitude"

[@raypitts4880]

SOUNDED ALL ALONG TOWER AND PILOT NOT HEARING OR UNDERSTANDING THE OTHERS ACTION/PROBLEM

[@wastews6985]

-What's you altitude? -Hold on a minute I'll throw something from a window and measure for how long would it take to hit the ground

[@twikirobot6897]

-Do you have any vision? -Si -Si? -SEA !!!

[@the_rover1]

our altitude is approx......three times pitch darkness FFS!!! 😁

[@maniok1977]

🤣🤣🤣

[@victoranthony9037]

I remember this tragedy. I will never understand why the pilots didn't elevate while heading back to Lima, where they could get a visual reference of where they are and could land the plane safely. The first officer tried to save them but it wasn't enough. They buckled under the pressure of not having their instruments and those annoying alerts scared them. RIP.

[@billyd5749]

They thought they were at 10,000 feet

[@jimcreasser8520]

@@billyd5749 9

[@thunderstorm4074]

Bruh, they couldn't have done fuk about this one, they were doomed all the way

[@billyd5749]

@@thunderstorm4074 exactly. So many contradictory readings from the plane. They had no chance unfortunately.

[@juliemanarin4127]

My thought too

[@mirkomiccinilli5899]

When instruments gone wild,there's only one thing to do: come back.

[@kaurage]

Exactly man. They would’ve been alive

[@mirkomiccinilli5899]

@@kaurage Fly was in the night,and difficult to see around you? Ok got it,but the runaway have lights!

[@mirkomiccinilli5899]

@David Sumner this happened when people haven't some training!

[@alienter7517]

Yah that was pilot error. Well they tried until the end. RIP. But it was dark so you can’t put all the Blame on them

[@mirkomiccinilli5899]

@@alienter7517 Of course,but city and airport don't

[@2ndAveScents]

As a military aviation maintainer, we are trained very well on the consequences of leaving pitot static tubes covered before flight. These indicators are a clear and obvious scenario that all pilots should be aware of. It’s mind boggling the shit that can happen especially at night when these pilots that rely so heavily on FD lose instrumentation.

[@dougmacmillan1712]

Agreed. I wonder if they used clear tape that made it hard to spot at night. The pilots normally do a walk around. I guess they couldn't see the tape. With military maintenance, QA should catch stuff like that.

[@Kait-tee]

On the mayday ep it said they used duct tape instead of orange (?) tape.

[@robertmitchell2575]

They used grey tape believe it or not.@@Kait-tee

[@OnARampageMogus]

Wow! TheFlightChannel (TFC) is the BEST Plane-related channel on KZbin EVER!

[@extremelyfast3727]

I Agree

[@nothingnothing3124]

He is the worst channel on KZbin he even copied allec Joshna ibay

[@nothingnothing3124]

@Gabriel Godina agreed

[@nothingnothing3124]

@DavoPlayz no he sucks and sometimes copies vids from allec Joshna ibay

[@nothingnothing3124]

@DavoPlayz allec is a billion times better this channel sucks

[@AV4Life]

The fact all of the initial survivors drowned in the freezing ocean all because of covered static ports is absolutely horrifying.

[@jamesb1988]

I say "fortunately" here relatively, but fortunately there would have been no surviving the initial force of the impact. And if by some miracle someone did survive, they would have been unconscious.

[@cynthiadavid5282]

My heart goes out to all the passengers crew and pilots that fly these big airliner jets

[@Pllm30]

Once impact their bodies break apart, amputations everywhere, no one is conscious.

[@el34glo59]

No one was conscious on impact. No way

[@peterjones9317]

If they would of used their oxygen and breathed underwater they would of been fine. These passengers didnt pay attention to the safety briefing

[@aeomaster32]

When all else fails, go back to basics. You have three working attitude (note: attitude, not altitude) instruments which will allow you to to control the attitude (pitch or bank) of the plane. If you level the plane, and you set cruise power, it will fly normally. Now that you know the plane is under control, you can decide to ignore or cancel false warnings. Then you can look to see if any other instruments are operational. For example, ground speed from GPS or INS, is independent from computer air data information. The basic issue here was they were trying to fly a faulty computer rather than bypassing it and getting back to flying the real airplane.

[@Trevor-gu8bb]

Totally agree, this is basic instrument rating knowledge.

[@tomstravels520]

As the aircraft didn’t have GPS wouldn’t you need true airspeed to calculate ground speed using the INS?

[@CristianCarvajalC]

it must be easy to say it watching a youtube video... :/

[@aeomaster32]

@@tomstravels520 INS is an independent system and calculates position and ground speed based on inertial acceleration. You would infer airspeed from groundspeed and have a pretty good idea of what it was, and avoid the catastrophic conclusions the crew came to.

[@aeomaster32]

@@CristianCarvajalC I flew airliners for 30 years with airlines that had excellent training standards. Air France also lost control and crashed (stalled) into the Atlantic because they failed basic flying skills - once the autopilot failed them.

[@aimeemarie8098]

As terrifying as the real audio is, it’s interesting to hear. I’m always curious about why some flights have only transcripts of the recordings and some have real audio. Thanks for your hard work and quality video, as usual!

[@jamesb1988]

I would guess that it probably has something to do with respect/wishes of the people who perished. I totally get it, I'm not sure if I would want my loved ones last words before their death being available to the public.

[@annemary9680]

@@jamesb1988 I think it has more to do with being able to get the information intact.

[@FatiFleur-jn7ky]

Laws have changed. The demand to keep the voice recordings private came from pilots themselves after the crash of Delta Airlines flight 1141 and the release of the cvr: [...] where the crew - in extremely cruel irony - were bantering on the flight deck about what to say that would get captured on the CVR in case of a crash. That irony was then squared in that the bantering was a directly contributing cause of the crash, in that they forgot to deploy flaps and slats [...]

[@diegus012]

The CVR audio is the property of the airline, and you’ll probably notice that most leaked audio is from accidents involving now defunct airlines. An ex employee usually will leak the audio and since the airline no longer exists, there is no one to fight it.

[@MrMiD.Life.Crisis]

@@FatiFleur-jn7ky is it true that in the delta 1141 cvr, they're bantering about a Continental Airlines crash and how the crew were discussing the dating habits of the flight attendants? I think that they release audio if something can be learnt from it. Or someone with access just can't help themselves.

[@jc6367]

I felt a lurch in my stomach when I read of the adhesive tape. How utterly terrifying that something so I seemingly small can have such a disastrous impact. I also wonder what impact departing at 00:30 had as well as everything else.

[@mickydee7502]

totally

[@soumyadeepm719]

The quality of videos on this channel has improved so much. I bet after 10 years we would be watching his videos in VR and experience the feeling of the pilots and the passengers.

[@diegoriverospineda3338]

I remember this awful accident like it was yesterday. It was a sad day for us in Chile. Thanks for sharing this video

[@tomleadbitter7165]

Yes. Sorry for your loss Chile. Love your country and hope to return one day.

[@Mitzi-chan224]

Evidence

[@ignacioarredondosalvo109]

1996 was a catastrophic year for Chileans, two flights accidents in less than a year coincidentally both in Peru, a lot of chileans lives lost.

[@seiZ88]

when i saw the planes reflection on the water my anxiety and fear just went 📈📈📈 RIP to all those that have lost their lives and loved ones because of this accident

[@21753117]

A classic accident. The captain was absolutely crazy to go to open sea in the dark with no instruments. He should have declared an emergency a minute after checking he had no reliable instruments, and use the city lights as reference to land back at the airport.

[@robinray692]

What I was thinking as well, and I'm just a regular joe with zero pilot experience.

[@pillowbugg]

But he would have been late, and time is money...just ask Alaska Airlines...

[@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats]

Captain hindsight to the rescue

[@robinray692]

@@iLLBiLLsRoastBeats lieutenant 20/20 here at your service

[@CraigBMM]

indeed

[@cynthiasnyder4202]

I used to be afraid of flying until I started watching all these videos comforted me a little

[@toddhurley5629]

Imagine being the guy who forgot to remove the tape.

[@Lordisking242]

He prob killed himself

[@briansmyla8696]

Or the pilots who are supposed to visually check the pitot tubes and static ports before flight.

[@BritanniaPacific]

He was found and charged with negligent homicide

[@Zach-td5mb]

@@briansmyla8696 let me know when you see a 3 inch piece of plane colored tape 20 feet off the ground at night with a 90s flashlight.

[@thebeagles2025]

@@Zach-td5mb but it was their job. If they can't do the job right, they shouldn't fly the airplane. A pilot is the command authority. If he can't see that something is working properly, he should assume it isn't working. You're right.... maybe he can't see with a 90s flashlight (Maglight would beg to differ) from 20 feet, but its his responsibility to say something. He's got the left seat because his is in command of the airplane.

[@shortsightedness8371]

"Is the autopilot on?" "Yes, but it's off."

[@thebeagles2025]

yeah admission is free so you pay at the door.

[@ceyhunkd]

maybe he meant button is open but system is off just my guessing idk about planes .d

[@trulygrateful1117]

@Неороманист Pshh On Point Bro

[@avova]

It is amazing that they even considered turning it on (and did) with all the instruments showing bs. Pilots nowadays have no common sense and cannot fly by themselves.

[@zorls]

This comment had me dying 🤣🤣

[@flyoverkid55]

I continue to be shocked by the lack of basic flight knowledge in some pilots, they are entirely too dependent upon instruments. If the video is any indicator, the captain had some visual references early in the event, and given the nature of the problem , should have immediately called an emergency and asked for vectors back to Lima. In that instruments were failing, it seems absurd that either pilot would want to rely on them, yet the captain is constantly trying to reconcile instrument readings to the actual circumstances. A real lack of cockpit resource coordination.

[@aeomaster32]

That is because training is now focused on flying the computer. The result is a psychological disconnect from the actual airplane.

[@ilsavv]

@@aeomaster32 So true!

[@jeffchristie9561]

I've FO'd for a few highly-regarded Capt's that were good w/the glass & etc but panicked when it failed & become highly agitated at everyone & everything, worsening the matter. Not all have, though; one in particular was cool as a cucumber & flew the plane manually w/no-gyro 'til he recycled it all. They're focusing inside even when taxiing, correcting in jolts all along the way when they actually look outside the windows. They, conversely, take issue w/my answer of "fly the plane" when asked what I'd do in particular situations. That's better than crashing the plane, ain't it?!

[@fgkpev]

@@aeomaster32 when the airplanes fly themselves the main job of the pilot is to understand all the systems and troubleshoot them when they are not working as intended. In this case both pilots were incompetent, especially the idiot Captain.

[@theshermantanker7043]

It generally is bad to follow your natural sense instead of the instruments, but in situations like these you have no other choice, plus in spatial disorientation only motion and acceleration is affected, the sense of gravity pulling you down generally remains intact

[@jeffhale522]

I'm lucky that I have never flown on a plane that had so many mechanical problems maybe I have and was lucky enough not to hear about it I am truly sorry for all the lost souls on these flights

[@wolfeeee]

You'd get trained or fail trying

[@chillfin]

An excellent presentation of a terrible tragedy, I admire particularly your choice of the closing scene of a moonlit ocean as a lovely tribute to the victims. Superb.

[@BigGamingBossMan]

Who says the moon is a tribute..?? The moon is the moon it doesn’t give a fuck

[@malek4485]

I felt so anxious watching this it was like I was one of the pilots...

[@alienter7517]

Agree I was panicking in my head . But they tried until the end RIP

[@qinachan4733]

Me too😭😭😭

[@Jsaiis]

Me too 😳

[@Myfellonmebadgirls]

Ok

[@Myfellonmebadgirls]

Tell me something then

[@lonerebeI]

The way some people will risk it while being thousands of feet in the air is beyond me, poor first officer at least he tried

[@Paul4180-n1h]

Between the subtle audio details and the crystal video, itZ ALWAYS a first-class visit! 👍

[@vannylee]

OMG It's pure caos inside that cockpit! No CRM at all! So sad to hear their last moments... May all the souls on board Aeroperu flight 603 Rest in Peace.

[@vika_festu]

this is a real nightmare for pilots.. when trying to figure out real speed and attitude but many warnings come up and talking to atc at the same time..

[@thefrunze.198]

Dam haven't watch this guy in a long time now

[@fittywrap588]

same😂

[@martinc.720]

And?

[@naomimartis9148]

Suggestion ( only if you prefer it): Maybe you could also make more video's on the pilot or the crew's quick thinking that helped saved a avoidable disaster. That way we get to see some more positive endings.

[@gonavy1]

I was staining my pants just listening to the conversation in the cockpit. Can't even imagine what it was really like. What a shame just because of tape.

[@calwilliams1506]

Why are males so base.

[@gonavy1]

@@calwilliams1506 I try having a little couth while making a public comment. I know they're other words I could have used.

[@lucchesi87]

I find it funny how the pilot reacted to every false alarm and indication despite how improbable it was, yet he ignored the stall and terrain warning after sitting for 5 minutes on speed brakes...

[@Edax_Royeaux]

It's because ATC kept feeding back to them "radar" information that they were still at a medium altitude. If ATC was telling you you were at 9700ft on radar, than the terrain warning would appear to be bogus given some of the alarms have to be bogus.

[@Carlos-ui5dx]

You find it funny? sicko

[@mohdadib7040]

The pilots shd hv relied on the tower vectoring with speed n height...and shd ignored all flight instruments..

[@mohammadazka31]

they ignored all of it because of so much confusion going on the cockpit.

[@TopDogRL]

@@Edax_Royeaux If you are sitting at idle with speedbrakes on then for several minutes then yeah I'd probably not believe my altitude was raising and figure out the ATC is also wrong..

[@sboazable]

I can't imagine what the passengers felt in those last few moments.

[@sukiiriinaa]

Probably pain, sadly. No seatbelt sign? When they dragged on the water the flipped. I can't imagine

[@balajidasar396]

Losing life in waters is one of the worst nightmares anyone could have..🥲

[@brizzchizz7302]

@@balajidasar396 ....and at night!

[@MXedits_1]

@@balajidasar396 until you learn about losing your life in a fire. I'd prefer the dark ocean.

[@marcello7941]

@@brizzchizz7302 The scariest thing is that this kind of crash has a very high chance to not kill all the passengers instantly. Just imagine you survive the initial impact just to be trapped in the wreckage in ice cold water at night and in the middle of nowhere slowly waiting for your unavoidable death, thats just horrifying.

[@abdusshakoorsaafir3985]

Even with faulty instruments he's still aware of his inputs and he could've flown on that alone and climbed until he could make visual contact with land.

[@ciplaqcipluq9856]

This one really felt like a movie... and probably the scariest air crash scenario i’ve ever known yet all of this just because of one damn tape😢 RIP to the pilots, crews, and all the passengers❤️

[@camt9967]

Great channel. Heartbreaking to know what's going happen, and that you're hearing the last words of real people.

[@Interdictiondeltawing]

all of this is due to tape also the pilots shouldn't be forgotten because they tried saving the plane from crashing

[@inytan]

Potatoes

[@ivebeenmemed]

Like the pilots from Alaska Airlines flight 261, they tried so hard but eventually faulty maintenance overtook them.

[@Interdictiondeltawing]

@@ivebeenmemed yeah and others like JAL 123

[@SvPVids]

They were highly criticized here in Peru because they rushed the landing instead of waiting for a guide plane, The airline got the mechanic that put the tapes on as the fall guy and is now serving jail time.

[@HardenedByFears]

​@@SvPVids I heard that they could use a radar altimeter which was alright having the true altitude data but they forgot about it.

[@jeka07]

"Estamos impactando en el agua" This case is very scary, darkness and confusion ... It's the worst. Poor pilots, they flew to the heaven.

[@onebridge7231]

Captain just seemed way out of his element and was in panic disbelief confused mode, while the First Officer seemed to actually trying to work through the problem. Emergency should have been called sooner.

[@Luka23567]

I would’ve advised abort water landing immediately, taking no chances trying to fly that thing with all the readings screwed up. They were flying that thing completely blind, amazed they lasted as long as they did. The sound in their voices of sheer terror and panic was hard to listen to.

[@dimitrikemitsky]

@@Luka23567 water landings in an airliner are basically death sentences, especially at night with no instruments. There is no such thing as an "abort water landing." That plane on the Hudson is famous because it's the exception. If they had managed to return to sight of land and visual reference, landing the plane would have been very possible even with no instruments, and much of their confusion would have been resolved visually.

[@Luka23567]

@@dimitrikemitsky ok but their way ended up killing all of them. Obviously the best option would’ve been to turn around and land but some people who are pilots said that was impossible for them to do.

[@yerunski]

And again the quality of this channel improved. Thumbs up for the many hours of hard work the creator puts in making this video. The hard work is paying off bigtime!

[@alienter7517]

Agreeee! The Chanel is even bigger now. But RIP to all the passengers and crew on the day of their final flight

[@weekenderfam7965]

shouldn’t they make a turn and head back to the airport while still over land? Especially the warnings started right after take off. If they have lights from the ground that should give them visual references, at least direction and height. Continuing into pitch black darkness just not be the best choice. Plus with all the warning sounds just made the situation worse. I can’t even stand them while watching the video on the phone sitting down, imagine the pilots have to figure out how to resolve the problems.

[@jefftheriault7260]

yes. at the first indication that important flight instruments are not working or are contradicting each other, they should have declared an emergency and started a turn for the airport, keeping the city lights in sight at all times.

[@Kupp_Kakez3]

Thank you. That’s the same exact thing I was thinking.

[@peteconrad2077]

@@jefftheriault7260 maybe, but we don’t know the crew could see the town and airport clearly.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

Absolutely correct! They should never head out over the water when there were indications that something was definitely wrong with the plane. At least with visual references they might have had a chance.

[@TomGamingg]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@b.t.356]

I can't imagine what it was like for the crew and passengers to realize in those last seconds that that was going to be their last night on earth 💔💔💔

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

This always makes me consider how the Hell bomber crews operated in world war two, flying at night with basic instruments. Then people randomly shooting at you at the same time.

[@ADOLFOSANDOVAL]

well, at least your have a reference as to where the bullets coming in from the ground :X

[@spartaceshipper8767]

back then there were no fancy equipments to confuse them..they had to rely mainly on their skills and expertise..i am not saying pilots nowadays are not skilled, i am just saying there are lots of external factors along with the advanced tech they are using that need to be evaluated more..

[@hachimaru295]

@@ADOLFOSANDOVAL not really everything was in black out and flak isnt tracer

[@indianapolisbankruptcy]

Well, the sad fact is that they lost a lot of bombers. They might have had some visuals, but with mandatory blackouts and cloud cover, good luck.

[@matsetizar65]

It makes a lot of difference if those basic instruments were working or not

[@AITullball3333]

The moment I heard that captain speaking I knew this was not going to end well.

[@brainwaiver1]

What a terrific memorial to the pilots who could do little to avoid this disaster. Respect.

[@jay_321]

The pilots had spectacularly poor troubleshooting skills and that was at least half the problem.

[@GLAviation]

@@jay_321 Indeed

[@grandtheftavocado]

The pilots could have been smarter.... they saw the altimeter wasn’t working properly and then just assumed it was working after it came up with the wrong data. They idled the engines and put air brakes on when they knew the air speed was broken but then trusted it later.

[@gessl1940]

I hope to God you are not a pilot David. Because else the people in the fuselage of your plane are just as screwed. What a useless pilot. " I have no instruments", so let me turn over black ocean in the dead of night to confuse myself even more. Do me a favour dude...

[@jay_321]

@@grandtheftavocado But even if we overlook that these two "pilots" couldn't troubleshoot their way out of a wet paper bag; if they had had just a tiny bit of common sense they wouldn't have flown out over open water in the dark. Lets see... the altimeter and airspeed don't seem to be working and we can't figure out why, lets leave the lights of the city behind and fly completely blind. Unbelievably bad judgement.

[@derp8575]

The captain said "we're going to invert" in such a chillingly calm manner.

[@vs-cw1wc]

So, the captian was actually correct in cursing the ground crew. Damn. He's got the right intuition

[@beva901]

Yeah well he was incorrect in just about everything else he did....

[@jayluis189]

When does he say anything about the ground crew? Time stamp 👀🤔

[@kaileyellow]

@@jayluis189 8:21 they both say something about the ground crew. “they move everything” and “what have they done”

[@MrZorro3250]

Too bad he didn"t inspect his plane before taking off

[@scottsilva2186]

@EvaMarieHamilton What did he do wrong? You do realize that this video is completely inaccurate, it's only clear in the video so you don't have to watch 20 minutes of a dense fog. There were no lights visible to the pilots, and runway 15 heads directly out to the ocean so they were probably over the water within the first 2 minutes of the flight.

[@lukabeast1150]

Got to love all these KZbin “pilots” in the comments that blames the pilots for their actions. Let’s get real this flight was absolutely doomed. All because a piece of tape. RIP everyone on the flight. Great work on the video again sir.

[@tomstravels520]

Even the report put blame on the pilots for failing to use other sources to determine estimated airspeed and altitude www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1719.pdf

[@jonyjoe8464]

we have years of expierence as youtube pilots, we know what we are doing.

[@beva901]

I know plenty of real pilots who all agree this could have been mitigated had the pilots acted correctly

[@lukabeast1150]

@@beva901 yea ok you troll

[@beva901]

@@lukabeast1150 I’m not trolling lol I literally work for an airline. But ok

[@scottyjohnson3120]

They should have turned around and gone back immediately while they were still over land..They at least would have had a visual reference point and maybe could have gotten help from the tower to get down safely.

[@sculter8]

So it looks like maybe some of the continuation school graduates may have "forgotten" to remove the critical sensors access holes, adhesive tape coverings, after the plane maintenance cleaning was done. Perhaps a preflight inspection of them should have been included in the flight preparation check-off list, then this whole situation could have been avoided.

[@toadster20000]

The pilots should have returned while they were over the city when they had faulty instruments especially at night

[@stevelaminack1516]

The old rule, if all else fails for Pete sake fly the airplane. Being experienced pilots and with their standby compass one of them should have been able to fly by hand back to the city while the other worked on the problem instead of freaking out and yelling at each other. Of course I wasn't there, just thinking out loud.

[@koreainsincere]

And they should have realised when the autopilot told them to piss off that it was back to absolute basics.

[@chesterwang3070]

It must've been so damn scary and confusing to hear an overspeed warning, a stick shaker and stall warning, a terrain warning, all of these contradicting each other. The captain was smart to try and get on the ILS, it would of definitely helped as the ILS doesn't take data from the plane's instruments. RIP everybody on board

[@cheesestick9100]

Imagine thinking your going to fast and then think you are stalling it must have been terrifying

[@chesterwang3070]

​@Martin Svensson Well, not really. Planes are pretty good gliders too you know. They are able to glide well, just they will always be descending. Not impressive at all actually. Planes actually fly with the engines like idle all the time, like during the descent.

[@chesterwang3070]

@Martin Svensson I NEVER SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED THEM. OMG ARE YOU THAT LITERAL? USE SOME COMMON SENSE I'M NOT A STUPID A-HOLE. JEEZ

[@chesterwang3070]

@Martin Svensson Ya. I gotta watch the video again to see if they eventually increased power after the speed reached like 350 knots IAS with the engines still at idle. I know I would do that because at that point, it would've became apparent that the instruments were dead wrong.

[@jay75rv]

Huh?...if the captain was in fact smart he would of taken action immediately he realised they had an inkling of trouble...heading back whilst having city lights orientation for instance.

[@carolinehoward180]

I’ve been putting off watching this because the Air Crash Investigation episode was just horrifying. I had to take a break in the middle once the alarms started. Great video TFC. 👍

[@bartonslan9842]

been watching this channel for some time now and never made a comment before. i think this video was the best one i have seen. real audio gave me goosebumps ..

[@2snowgirl520]

Omg, that was terrifying! I hardly took a breath during this. From now on I may do my own observation of those tubes to make sure there is nothing covering them

[@shanayagrant2622]

Wow! That must have been a huge pill to swallow. When you are in such a position where you realize that what you thought was right, was actually wrong and its too late to correct it. My heart goes out to anyone related in any way to them. That is a real disaster alright😕The fact that it was in the night alone...🕊This is simply a warning that we should take the time out to double check(even triple) especially when the safety of the people is in our hands. Great video as usual legend!!

[@necessaryJustice_4all]

I watch a lot of air disasters. I find flight simultaneously fascinating and terrifying. I always say a prayer for the souls lost on these planes. Almost all of these pilots have every bit of the skill and experience they need, it’s almost always equipment failure. This particular disaster is especially sad bc these brave men were flying blind in the night sky. I wish they would have listened to their instinct when the plane was stalling, but...when the tower is telling you that you’re altitude and speed are more than you need-who are they to know. The plane was telling them they were low, and needed to pull up, which is terrifying, bc they were so confused. May God watch over you now. May you sore with the angels now ladies and gentlemen. 🙏🏻