Crawford, Ranieri and Roper Try to Learn Each Others' Accents

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Simon Roper

Simon Roper

11 ай бұрын

Jackson's channel: @JacksonCrawford
One of Luke's various channels: @polyMATHY_Luke

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@Anonymous-376
@Anonymous-376 11 ай бұрын
Crawford, Ranieri and Roper, the Holy Trinity of KZbin linguistics
@stevenmontoya9950
@stevenmontoya9950 11 ай бұрын
If they practiced law, it'd make a badass firm name 😂
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget Ranieri's mustache!
@bhami
@bhami 11 ай бұрын
Hey, you can't forget Dr. Geoff Lindsey!
@redpillsatori3020
@redpillsatori3020 11 ай бұрын
Old Norse, Classical Latin, and Old English ftw!
@Cephlin
@Cephlin 11 ай бұрын
Aye, Dr Geoff Lindsey would be the cherry on top
@the_miracle_aligner
@the_miracle_aligner 11 ай бұрын
The holy trinity all in one video. What a time to be alive
@samfann1768
@samfann1768 11 ай бұрын
Ayy the miracle aligner, didn't expect to find you here, but I guess it makes sense.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking of you and singing "salue, salue, salue, parue" just 5 minutes ago :D how are you doing? Did the unrest in your area end?
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf 11 ай бұрын
For this particular video (accents/dialects) they would have benefitted from having Erik Singer as a fourth guest.
@prototropo
@prototropo 11 ай бұрын
We need the Anzacs, Irish, Canadians, Scottish and South Africans represented.
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
​@@prototropolet's get Spoon the Aristocratic Utensil in here.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 11 ай бұрын
This was such a great time! Thanks again to you both.
@nate-otero
@nate-otero 4 ай бұрын
Luke struggling with Simons accent makes me want to see him try and learn an Australian accent.
@zak3744
@zak3744 11 ай бұрын
It's very interesting to hear both of the American fellows adamant that Simon is the most posh-sounding of the three of them. If you asked me, I'd say Simon is the least posh-sounding of them! Jackson's speech, to my British ear, evokes a kind of olden days Southern US vibe that is very much the idea of posh Southern gentlefolk, while Luke's accent definitely sounds very careful and well-spoken, even if I'm not familiar enough to know what the specific idea of "posh" would sound like in his particular variety of American English. With Simon on the other hand, as a fellow Brit the non-posh elements of his speech jump out immediately, particularly a lot of 'estuarised' sounds. I'd say the class inferences of his speech to me would be something like "well-educated individual, with middling-to-slightly-lower-than-middling prestige accent". I presume we naturally pick up on the nuances of that which we are familiar with, and the foreign tends to sound fancy! Much as in an intra-English context some Northerners can quite often classify any Southern accent (i.e. anyone with a trap-bath split) as automatically "posh", even if the particular Southern accent is one that other Southerners might say sounds like a chavvy yokel in class terms!
@cerdic6305
@cerdic6305 11 ай бұрын
Completely agree, Simon doesn’t sound posh at all to me whereas Luke sounds almost transatlantic at times
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, yes I have occasionally heard what "posh" British sounds like, and Simon has a different accent to them, but I didn't really attach "prestige" to it... I think of it as "city" VS "rural" . My own accent is rural southern Louisiana.
@SouthPark333Gaming
@SouthPark333Gaming 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@sean668
@sean668 11 ай бұрын
American chiming in. Luke does sound incredibly refined to me. He has a sort of polished accent that sounds very close to the neutral American English used on train announcements for clarity. The only other place I've heard it is at universities. I don't think Jackson sounds posh at all, though. His accent is Joe Shmo Texas.
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 11 ай бұрын
The British accent was in principle "invented" in the 1770s to sound different from the rebellious Americans' accent. So while many US accents can sound refined, the British accent is kind of "inorganic", and in that respect it's the most posh of all.
@omikhlephonon
@omikhlephonon 11 ай бұрын
I like how Jackson just calmly sits in confusion and repeats "no one in this world" Thats ytp material!
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
I found his pronunciation of "useless" to be noticeably different from Simon's.
@that_flnger
@that_flnger 11 ай бұрын
​@@violenceislife1987yes i think Jackson pronounces the u sound too softly
@marcelagarcia3925
@marcelagarcia3925 7 ай бұрын
@@violenceislife1987 Yes! I was surprised that none of them caught it.
@herghamoo3242
@herghamoo3242 11 ай бұрын
I think it's amazing how at 37:15, Roper tries pronouncing "possible" and I can't help hearing it as an Englishman saying "passable", even though the words coming before and after sounded perfectly American to me. It really speaks to how fine-tuned all the vowels in your native tongue really are, and how hard it is to adjust them to the right place when imitating an accent, especially if (like in this case) one of your own vowels is closer (but not identical). Even for Roper, who has made a KZbin career out of being very good at pronouncing English in different ways.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 10 ай бұрын
akdabooss
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 5 ай бұрын
Interesting
@gabbytriestomakethings
@gabbytriestomakethings 11 ай бұрын
As a vocalist it’s very interesting to watch this and think not only of the mouth and tongue placement but also the difference in where the voice resonates from. This is something we think a lot in singing and it seems like a big difference in Jackson doing Simon’s accent is actually where his voice is placed because Simon has such a soft and more breathy placement that sounds more towards the head than deep in the chest where Jackson naturally sits.
@gabbytriestomakethings
@gabbytriestomakethings 11 ай бұрын
It was also interesting to note that you did the timbre and general voice quality after the ipa when usually if I’m mimicking a person I start with where it’s felt and then do the ipa because something about where it’s felt informs for me the mouth and tongue so it’s more intuitive than just learning by wrote. But that’s from a singer actor perspective not a linguist. It seems like the two approaches are different.
@totlyepic
@totlyepic 11 ай бұрын
This was my perspective as well. I would also say that Jackson's voice is tonally darker as well, although Simon's isn't not dark.
@philoaviaticus
@philoaviaticus 11 ай бұрын
Facial nasal maybe sinus structure for Luke predisposes to nasal trends and higher register speaking?
@Galenus1234
@Galenus1234 11 ай бұрын
To me, Jackson's voice quality changes quite a bit when he switches from speaking English to reading Old Norse. I'd like to hear the opinion of a professional on this...
@MuriKakari
@MuriKakari 5 ай бұрын
@@Galenus1234 Languages flat out have different pitches. For example, a cheater way to do an approximate (good enough to get the point across) Russian accent is to start with a Scottish accent and then dip your head, which lowers your voice. Many Russians have high voices, but the entire language sounds lower than English.
@AgmaSchwa
@AgmaSchwa 11 ай бұрын
We have these discussions all the time in my conlang discord, this is beautiful, haha
@JackWabbitTV
@JackWabbitTV 11 ай бұрын
Is that an open discord?
@stevenmontoya9950
@stevenmontoya9950 11 ай бұрын
Drinking game: take a shot every time Simon says "reckon" 😅
@TheWeezyOfOz
@TheWeezyOfOz 11 ай бұрын
This video is like watching 3 magicians develop a magic trick from scratch. I have no idea how you're doing it but it's fascinating to watch. Also I wonder if after recording you felt like you'd said the same word so many times it stops making sense but for your whole accent.
@afischer8327
@afischer8327 11 ай бұрын
I signed up to all of your channels (Jackson, then Simon, then Luke), without realising that you could all get together. This is magic, and relaxing.
@greganthony4426
@greganthony4426 10 ай бұрын
Three of the coolest people on KZbin collaborating. I'm American, but from the south east US. We say "I reckon" here, but we get poked fun at over it, but it sounds quite proper from a Brit.
@grimble4564
@grimble4564 11 ай бұрын
Having three linguists break down the finest details of their language really reminds me how strange and magical it is that we have these language systems in the first place. The way we use extremely nuanced small mouth noises to convey complex ideas is a true every day miracle.
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 5 ай бұрын
The word was god
@frenchfriar
@frenchfriar 11 ай бұрын
Me, a Tennessean listening to each of these accents, and thinking "yall have no idea how extended a diphthong can be" (Just teasing!). I think all of you did extremely well. What really impressed me, was that each of you did a great job (with fits and starts) of replicating each other's accents, but without it turning to mimicry. I would have immediately been trying to mimic each voice, without really trying to. So, while none of you really sounded like the other person, you all nailed their speach patters. Simon and Dr Crawford sounded the most alike, I think, because each have deeper, more resonant voices, but when Luke wasn't tripping over his vowels (he was presented with some difficult ones) he did great. Watching Simon get so amused was so much fun, I could tell all of you were enjoying the exercises, but Simon's joy stood out. This was a very short couple of hours, listening to three of my favorite linguists. I think you're all posh gents, and would love to see you do something similar again. Sorry for such a long response, but thanks to all three of you, and thank you, Simon, for hosting this.
@finbear
@finbear 11 ай бұрын
I was born in the US South and I laughed out loud at your first comment because it is *so* accurate! I'm reminded of a Dr Phil episode from the 1990s where a guest from... Arkansas, I think?... said his name, and he just blinked at her and said, "Did you just put five different vowels in the word Phil?" 🤣
@robinrehlinghaus1944
@robinrehlinghaus1944 9 ай бұрын
​@@finbearPhıíeæeìl
@MedK001
@MedK001 7 ай бұрын
@@finbear Now I'm curious about that episode lol. It seems hilarious!
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 5 ай бұрын
Lol 😂 howdy neighbor (Chattanooga)
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 5 ай бұрын
@@finbear I didn't see it but if I might take a guess: [Ph I ay ul]
@berbold
@berbold 11 ай бұрын
It was after 15 minutes of me rewinding and imitating all three of you and actually discussing out loud what I was discovering but finally realising that I wasn't online with you that I think this might just be my personal jam 🤣
@purple_purpur7379
@purple_purpur7379 11 ай бұрын
yess!! exactly! i love this kind of thing so much
@kylebroberg7852
@kylebroberg7852 11 ай бұрын
Jackson sounds like Christopher Lee when he does his Simon impression. Could we get a Saruman impression next time??
@montyyy08
@montyyy08 11 ай бұрын
Out of the three, I felt that Luke had the widest range in his ability to imitate sounds. He can even do impressions! Perhaps it’s because of the number of languages he speaks.
@SuperDaveP270
@SuperDaveP270 11 ай бұрын
OK so at first, to me, this just seemed like a strange, perhaps silly and fun thing to try, but then watching the video---you guys are all great at turning this into a very interesting and educational experience! Loved it
@paiwanhan
@paiwanhan 11 ай бұрын
Dr. Crawford was very very quick in picking up Simon's accent. Pretty amazing. I honestly thought Simon's reading of that line sounds not all that different from typical American accent.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 10 ай бұрын
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@ericraymond3734
@ericraymond3734 11 ай бұрын
Simon, you are a really *excellent* accent mimic. I say this as someone who has a knack for accents myself, but you're better than me. I have a native General American accent (Educated East Coast variant of Midlands). The one tiny error I hear in your imitation of Jackson is that you tend to slightly overdo the nasalization on some of his nasalized consonents. To an American ear the result sounds just a touch parodic. The "transatlantic" softened rhoticity Luke noticed is a class marker - it's characteristic of upper-class dialects, especially on the East Coast. Fifty years ago that stratum of accents was much less rhotic, more resembling BRP of the time. Rhoticity has been infiltrating them from the Middle American dialect over my lifetime. In general Luke's accent has a rather upper-crust sound, which is something that tends to happen with people who have self-reconstructed their idiolect a lot. It's interesting that Jackson brought up fake accents on country radio. He's right - it's really obvious to an American with any dialect ear and it's *incredibly irritating*. I figured out years ago that it activates the evolved cheater-detection module in my head.
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 11 ай бұрын
FDR sounded almost British to me, who is a Swede having English as my second language. But already JFK sounded much more US American.
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 11 ай бұрын
​@@francisdec1615yes there is a definite section of upper class East coast accents or newsreaders, where it can be hard to tell if they are American or British, sometimes it's only on the stress patterns you can hear the difference.
@finbear
@finbear 11 ай бұрын
@@francisdec1615 FDR and JFK were from different places. Honestly I suspect that accounts for their different accents a lot more than the 20-ish years separating their times in office. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, regional accents in the US were much more distinct from one another.
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 5 ай бұрын
I agree, when on radio or tv someone from Cali is trying to do a southern accent, it's irritating
@tmann986
@tmann986 9 ай бұрын
I remember in the military there was me (from Southern California) a buddy from the mountains of Tennessee, another buddy from New Hampshire. These areas have very distinct American accents because its from different corners of the United States. We were drinking of course but we tried to imitate each other and it was so funny!
@jpilegaaard1278
@jpilegaaard1278 11 ай бұрын
This is great and amazing how hard it can be to imitate an accent. You should do something on the Shetland accents.
@squirrel435
@squirrel435 11 ай бұрын
Nobody else in the world can use vocal fry in their voice because Jackson Crawford possesses all of it 💀
@evenaskeladden
@evenaskeladden 11 ай бұрын
Love seeing these three guys just hanging out!
@matthewduggan8780
@matthewduggan8780 11 ай бұрын
Luke imitating Simon's "no one" is my spirit animal.
@yellowflowerorangeflower5706
@yellowflowerorangeflower5706 6 ай бұрын
I just like listening to y'all talk.
@MenelmacarLG
@MenelmacarLG Ай бұрын
This is so much fun. I would watch this kind of exercise every week.
@davidlericain
@davidlericain 11 ай бұрын
Always great to see you guys collaborating. This was fun. Honestly you could just talk about whatever and I'm down to watch for hours.
@sione_etc
@sione_etc 11 ай бұрын
Just to join in on the phonetic hair-splitting, I think Jackson is making the /ou/ in 'no one' and the /ju/ in 'useless' too back and too rounded. Simon is saying something like [nəʏwʌn] and [jɨsləs]. Also that 'dn' sound in 'burden' - idk if there's a name for it but there's no tap, the tongue just holds against the alveolar ridge and transitions from /d/ to /n/ without releasing. The stop and release is actually coming from the back of the tongue on the back of the soft palate while the front of the tongue stays pressed against the alveolar position
@purple_purpur7379
@purple_purpur7379 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you! And the term is _pre-occluded nasal_
@caboose202ful
@caboose202ful 11 ай бұрын
As purple_purpur says pre-occluded nasal is one term for it. Another term is "nasal release". Usually transcribed as consonant with no release followed by nasal. [d̚n̩], but 'technically' should be transcribed [dⁿn̩]
@sione_etc
@sione_etc 11 ай бұрын
@@purple_purpur7379 @caboose202ful thanks!
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
Indeed
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
I find that Jackson's "useless" has more force on the ending [ss] than Simon's.
@annemcleod8505
@annemcleod8505 11 ай бұрын
Who would have thought this could be so entertaining?! Thanks so much.
@noneimportant5951
@noneimportant5951 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Luke looks amazing with that stache.
@martinmills135
@martinmills135 11 ай бұрын
1:25:39 Simon would make a… novel kind of Bond
@TomRNZ
@TomRNZ 11 ай бұрын
I love this collaboration. You all make great content individually, but it's cool seeing you make content together. Keep it up!
@alistaircotton7840
@alistaircotton7840 5 ай бұрын
I could watch this all day, fantastic! Muscle (tongue) memory is the hardest thing to alter!
@buckbell7784
@buckbell7784 11 ай бұрын
Saw this notification and instantly grinned like a madman
@Kalobi
@Kalobi Ай бұрын
In addition to the main topic of this video being super interesting, I was fascinated as a German speaker by how well Luke could make the single syllable "so" sound German.
@mfaizsyahmi
@mfaizsyahmi 11 ай бұрын
Damn Luke has turned full Mr Pringle!
@joebarrera334
@joebarrera334 11 ай бұрын
Two hours in and I still want more haha. I think you guys nailed it!
@pierreabbat6157
@pierreabbat6157 11 ай бұрын
"I've heard dogs sounding lots of ways" - I was expecting you to bark in different accents.
@Ssarevok
@Ssarevok 11 ай бұрын
Native Dutch speaker here: I's super interesting to me when Luke and Simon discuss "small", Luke says Simon's last attempt it's pretty much the same as his, whereas to me, even though it's close, I hear Luke saying 'smoll' and Simon saying 'small'. On the other hand, I can't even hear the differencein the T pronounciations in "safety".
@prototropo
@prototropo 11 ай бұрын
My three favorite language mavericks! I discovered you all independently, which makes me more self-regarding than fluent in any tongue, dialect, theory or literature, but oh well.
@etepeteseat7424
@etepeteseat7424 11 ай бұрын
One thing with Jackson that I think is playing into his resonance idea is that he seems to speak with a fair amount of vocal fry, and perhaps just a bit of twang, and I think that those aspects of his actual vocal production were influencing how he and the others were hearing his articulation.
@emilyireland4857
@emilyireland4857 11 ай бұрын
Thanks I loved this whole thing.
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 11 ай бұрын
so I think Jackson is suffering from being stereotyped as a cowboy. Because both Luke and Simon make them sound like a Texan. Whereas a rocky Mountain accent has a bit of a drawl and it’s kind of low in pitch but it’s generally it’s much more like general American.
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 11 ай бұрын
I respect Luke so much for doing the Sisko monologue.
@josiahmedin2216
@josiahmedin2216 11 ай бұрын
I love the fact that my three favourite youtubers are friends
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 11 ай бұрын
Luke’s voice is so much higher in pitch than Jackson’s that I feel like that is the main challenge The two of them are having. They are tuned into those vowel sounds, but it is actually the pitch and speed that distinguishes them.
@MuriKakari
@MuriKakari 5 ай бұрын
And Simon has a grit that the other two don't which was the main challenge throwing off theirs for him I think.
@darrengreen6341
@darrengreen6341 3 ай бұрын
Amazing deep voice.❤❤❤
@maureenhallahan9336
@maureenhallahan9336 9 ай бұрын
Simon, wonderful stuff as always. Can you give me your opinion as to why the accent in DORSET seems to have almost gone? My family all had wonderful Dorset accents, bur now when I’m there I only hear an accent from South east, London area. Yet when one is in Liverpool, or further North, everyone still has the relevant accent? Such a pity to lose Dorset’s wonderful sounds.
@theloafabread4341
@theloafabread4341 11 ай бұрын
Love these uploads so much I watched all 2 hours in 3 mins
@thogameskanaal
@thogameskanaal 11 ай бұрын
Imagine Danny DeVito: “I've heard dogs sounding lots a ways!”
@user-wy1mx9wy9f
@user-wy1mx9wy9f 9 ай бұрын
There’s a bit of Liverpool in Simon’s speech NW England anyway But quite “Estuarised”
@Rakkeyal
@Rakkeyal 11 ай бұрын
Gosh this was so cool to listen to.
@Scriptor13
@Scriptor13 11 ай бұрын
Simon, you have an amazing ear for phonetic imitation.
@Cephlin
@Cephlin 11 ай бұрын
You have to remember how much a British ear is exposed to American accents compared to the other way round
@iwannabeyourdog4195
@iwannabeyourdog4195 11 ай бұрын
Legends meet each other
@spooderman9122
@spooderman9122 11 ай бұрын
That moment when you click on the video so early that the sound doesn't play so you just sit there trying to figure put what's wrong
@Christina_Paz
@Christina_Paz 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating!
@Schizopantheist
@Schizopantheist 11 ай бұрын
I realized from watching this video that Simon does have a bit of a Cumbrian accent (I'm assuming that's what it is) that I had never really noticed before. If I as a roughly southern UK RP speaker try to copy his accent I can get there by doing something like a mild Leeds accent (or I guess cumbrian accent) and then slide it all towards RP until there's only a tiny trace left. I sound like Simon, weird! (and also some of the younger people I met when travelling in the Lake District)... And now I'm listening to Simon near the end of the video and doubting myself. I think it's only certain words this is true for. This stuff can get so specific!
@ericraymond3734
@ericraymond3734 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, Roper's not a standard Southern RP. I'm American and even I can tell that. Interesting that you identify the other element as Combrian - I could tell it was northern, but coul;dn't nail it closer than that.
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
So some of it is east midlands, some say.
@grahamh.4230
@grahamh.4230 11 ай бұрын
@@ericraymond3734They may have noted Cumbria only because he talks so much about Cumbrian in his videos.
@grahamh.4230
@grahamh.4230 11 ай бұрын
@@ericraymond3734I’m also American. I haven’t heard much of a Northern accent from Simon except for in one video where he used [ʊ] in the third syllable of “anybody” - that really stuck out.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 10 ай бұрын
@@ericraymond3734 RP is not what you think. In th south of th UK thy speak SSB. RP is a wird accnt from th 40s
@caboose202ful
@caboose202ful 11 ай бұрын
1:56:00 on the topic of [ʊː] in Geordie, I'm Australian and I noticed that in my accent and a few other (non-broad) Australian speakers I've tested, the CURE vowel is realised as [ʊː] when followed by a consonant. I always assumed the change was driven by analogy to other vowel length contrasts in AusE, but I don't really have any evidence for that.
@inkognito8400
@inkognito8400 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the interesting content.
@baerlauchstal
@baerlauchstal 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating.
@davissae
@davissae 5 ай бұрын
Jackson has a Brokeback Mountain-y western flavor to his speech. Simple and direct. Luke just sounds like urbane American.
@patrickharris5903
@patrickharris5903 4 ай бұрын
so interesting, thanks
@gegemec
@gegemec 11 ай бұрын
Interesting for me, I am Australian and when I hear the blokes with American accents drop their Accent and move into a British/Simon accent I feel relief in my head, a stress is relaxed. I am probably seeing it in these terms because I have a background in movement and singing.
@DoctorDeSotoTheBand
@DoctorDeSotoTheBand 10 ай бұрын
Off-topic I guess - but I had a thought today, and then thought of you, Simon. ‘Slang’ - as an Australian, slang is part of the daily lived experience here. And of course the British are equally famed for the use of slang. What do we know about the use of slang in Old English? Was it a thing? When did it become so prevalent in the English language (and by extension, I suppose, Australian and other colonial dialects with British roots)? Here it probably emerged as a way to be anti-establishment, to bond with others, for fun. I imagine it played a similar role in England when it emerged also? Regards, Mike Green. Oh, and I enjoy your channel immensely. Thank you!
@LauraAgustinNA
@LauraAgustinNA 11 ай бұрын
I liked this as you did it and also think it would be interesting to do it as another commenter suggests below: quickly, intuitively and without worrying about producing stereotypes and thus offending.
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 11 ай бұрын
Two hours! I’m going to have to wait to watch this, but it looks great.
@j.s.c.4355
@j.s.c.4355 11 ай бұрын
2:14: Yer overthinkin’ it, mate. Just go for it!
@daniellekiey-thomas1327
@daniellekiey-thomas1327 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating
@morvil73
@morvil73 11 ай бұрын
The dr cluster in “quadrant” is different for Luke and Symon respectively. In symon’s dr there is a little bit of affrication of d in the transition to the retroflex r.
@manno_ut_nitherlanda
@manno_ut_nitherlanda 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could consider making a video about the origin of the germanic strong/weak verb model for the past tense.
@HermesNinja
@HermesNinja 4 ай бұрын
The American pronunciation of the word “anything” trips up most English actors. That’s always the tell of a Brit in an American role. 😁 Just discovered this video - so much fun!
@tenminutespanish
@tenminutespanish 11 ай бұрын
I'm from the Rocky Mountains in Utah, and I pronounce "wh" like Jackson Crawford. I've been teased for it as an adult, living outside the Rocky Mountains.
@SouthPark333Gaming
@SouthPark333Gaming 11 ай бұрын
This feels like one of those Doctor Who anniversary specials
@crusatyr1452
@crusatyr1452 11 ай бұрын
I need to see these three make a weekly podcast. I'd love to see how high the average number of Star Trek references would be!
@Cephlin
@Cephlin 11 ай бұрын
A thought for next time, it would have been interesting to listen to Luke trying to imitate Simon as well as Jackson, taking it in turns to try and bounce off each other’s attempts. I’m 26 minutes in and I’m hoping that later I’ll get to hear Luke try it and also hear it contrasted against Jackson’s attempts. A side note, as an East Midlander, I have noticed that Simon has a very East Midlands accent in places but then it is swallowed by the southerner in him.
@biscuit715
@biscuit715 5 ай бұрын
I'm enjoying the sun setting in real time on Simons end
@VulcanTrekkie45
@VulcanTrekkie45 11 ай бұрын
This is fascinating. If ever you wanna try and learn a New England accent like this let me know
@elissafanzo1124
@elissafanzo1124 11 ай бұрын
This was so much fun. I don’t know why I was so tickled to hear Simon doing American accents. I too am a Yankee, and was surprised to hear how close Luke’s accent is to my New York accent. I think some of those things like the dark L come from older immigrant groups, I’m thinking of Yiddish, German, maybe Eastern European accents.
@clippedwings225
@clippedwings225 11 ай бұрын
24:24 he sounds kinda Thorin Oakenshield to me which is funny cause Richard Armitage is English, but (as a total layperson to linguistic whatevers) I feel like the Dwarves from The Hobbit films have a bit of an American-ish flavor despite seeming more English, or sometimes I feel Scottish or Irish in their accents.
@HoosacValleyAhavah
@HoosacValleyAhavah 11 ай бұрын
If you watch the movie about the search for the Boston bombers and at the point of the firefight with Tamerlane Tzarnaev and once the suspect is down you hear on the radio "hald ya fi'ah ,hald ya fi'ah" in subtitles is of coarse "hold your fire" ,great insight into real Boston English
@Alex-zs7gw
@Alex-zs7gw 11 ай бұрын
This is how distinct and numerous our accents are in the UK - so like to me Simon has both such a neutral accent and yet completely different to my own. (In "world" for e..g my 'rl' would just be rounded it'd be almost voiceless) We must harbour so many hangovers from the heptarchy languages that impact all our intonations, cadences and nuances - and that's before even one word of my northern slang enters the chat. Loved the level of anaylsis guys 👌
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
I found that Jackson's "anything" is different from Simon's, in that the [þ] is dental-hissy before it is voiced
@ibrahimal-qatami741
@ibrahimal-qatami741 11 ай бұрын
Why dose Luke have that 1800s early 1900s amadeus moustache 😂😂😅
@aepfeln
@aepfeln 11 ай бұрын
I watched this the other day, and I found myself sort of "playing along". Foreign accents and different dialects were the first linguistics-related area I remember being interested in. I like to think I could hold my own among you three, but until I'm tested, I can't be sure. I'm sure I would end up imitating the voice as well as the accent, which on the one hand might veer a bit too close to parody, but on the other would bring in some of the suprasegmental features that Jackson kept mentioning. Maybe I'll start a channel of my own and invite you all onto a call for a rematch ;)
@crimsonhawk52
@crimsonhawk52 11 ай бұрын
reminds me of that movie from some years ago "It Might Get Loud" lol
@JMRolf1
@JMRolf1 11 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@IntelVoid
@IntelVoid 3 ай бұрын
It's interesting seeing what ruts they each get stuck in the most. I guess the goat vowel is hard to copy across accents.
@msclrhd
@msclrhd 11 ай бұрын
When Luke was imitating the word "noone" it also sounds posh/old fashioned to me. A video on vowel changes from Early Modern English to Modern English, that put the GOAT vowel as /əʊ/ (starting at the schwa). There was another video that classified Prince William's GOAT vowel as /ɒʊ/. I would classify my GOAT vowel (from middle England, which to me sounds close to Simon's GOAT vowel) as something like /ɒɯ/ -- my onset is close to the LOT vowel, and the target is similar to my GOOSE vowel (/u/) but unrounded or similar to a /w/. Also, for me the FOOT vowel (I have the FOOT-STRUT merger, or at the very least cannot hear the difference when I speak them) sounds different to the target for the GOAT vowel, so I wouldn't transcribe my GOAT vowel using the FOOT vowel (/ʊ/). I would also say that the target is similar to Jackson's PRICE vowel where the target is a lot shorter than the onset. Regarding Geoff Lindsay's British English accent, I'd say that that has a London perspective to it. With me, I think with regard to FOOT-STRUT (short), NORTH-FORCE-THOUGHT (long), and CURE (long, with a /j/ onset) they all share the same vowel, which to me definitely sounds like /ʌ/~/ɔ/ -- with FOOT, because it is short, it does not have chance to take on some of the sound qualities that the long form has (it's hard to describe). I think I detect rounding in my FOOT-STRUT vowel compared to my THOUGHT vowel, so it may be closer to /ʌː/ for NORTH-THOUGHT, /jʌː/ for PURE, and /ɔ/ for FOOT-STRUT. My LOT vowel is lower than my FOOT vowel, hence me describing it as /ɒ/.
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 11 ай бұрын
I wonder whether Fourier graphs would help in classifying vowel sounds.
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund 11 ай бұрын
There is a program called Praat that can do that (and much more).
@stevenklinden
@stevenklinden 11 ай бұрын
Interesting discussion about the "wh" sound. I have a distinction between "w" and "wh", which is a bit strange since I grew up in New Jersey, but it's something I've been doing as long as I can remember. For me, the "wh" feels almost as if I'm producing a "w" and an "h" simultaneously. Also, good choice by Luke on the DS9 quote.
@jacobparry177
@jacobparry177 11 ай бұрын
The avengers of historical linguistics KZbinrs reunites😳
@RichardDCook
@RichardDCook 3 ай бұрын
At 23:25 so interesting to ponder the relationship between an actor capturing the speech of a known person and how caricature drawings function. Caricature drawings are successful if the artist has correctly identified what proportions of the subject's face deviate from average. Let's say the subject's eyes are a tiny bit closer together than average. Everyone who knows that person subconsciously knows it. Thus the artist can draw the eyes a tad closer together than average, or keep pushing them closer until they're actually touching! It doesn't matter; everyone who knows that person will say the drawing looks like the subject as long as the eyes are closer than average. I don't think this can work with accent and voice quality- the actor can't push things too far. This, then, is more like realistic portraiture, I reckon.
@louisrobertbrown
@louisrobertbrown 11 ай бұрын
Around 32:25, maybe Luke was thinking of the scots word for hand (which is indeed 'haun') (spelling correction)
@cerdic6305
@cerdic6305 11 ай бұрын
Fairly sure he was talking about the old Norse word hönd
@evolagenda
@evolagenda 11 ай бұрын
Loved it
@mriamright1740
@mriamright1740 10 ай бұрын
Watching this straight through is enough to get an invitation to a Nuthouse. Both the American speakers, exaggerated a bit the Noooone, the posher accents have that round sound but a standard south east accent, it is flatter.
@DashDrones
@DashDrones 11 ай бұрын
Was born in Hertfordshire, moved to Ireland thirty years ago when I was a child. I still have a strong English accent and also terrible at attempting any accents. What's wrong with me? 😢😊
@violenceislife1987
@violenceislife1987 11 ай бұрын
You need to meditate.
@theangryginger7582
@theangryginger7582 11 ай бұрын
Goated friend group
@friiq0
@friiq0 11 ай бұрын
Given the reference to the DS9 episode “In the Pale Moonlight”, I can’t help but exclaim “It’s a fake!!!”
@jfields414
@jfields414 11 ай бұрын
I love this so much
@MM-jm6do
@MM-jm6do 5 ай бұрын
1:01:50 Made me think of “purdy” in place of pretty. So price, comes out slightly sounding of “purice”
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