Craziest Full Slotting CNC Machining Video You’ve Ever Seen! | Kennametal Harvi 1 TE

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CRAZY KENNAMETAL “HARVI 1 TE” TEST - Full Horse Power - 45 Degree Full Diameter Ramp Straight Down into 1018 Steel - Into a Full Slot...
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@pendago8484
@pendago8484 4 жыл бұрын
1:04 Titan says: " Let's go break a tool " ==> 1:47 Kennametal goes like: " Let's go break a spindle "
@tibseflups6674
@tibseflups6674 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it was only trochidal milling😉😉
@AATopFuel
@AATopFuel 4 жыл бұрын
LoL
@OArchivesX
@OArchivesX 4 жыл бұрын
It's not that kennametal is great.. theyre good but not the best.
@m18y43
@m18y43 4 жыл бұрын
This was my 1st time to see heavy cut without tool break, 👏🏻 Awesome
@dimasroy5040
@dimasroy5040 4 жыл бұрын
That not normal EndMills....😂 45° and going+ fast
@whealman142
@whealman142 4 жыл бұрын
That milling head is gonna break before the tool 😂
@markreardon3472
@markreardon3472 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it appeared the holder was almost gyrating in the machine a smidge and did show some tool marks to back it up some. The kennemetal tool line is obviously some of the best their is by demos like this and others with the Harvi 3 so just imagine even with a smaller machine with lower HP how long the end mills will last.
@thrownchance
@thrownchance 4 жыл бұрын
crazy how the stiffness of such a machine is the limiting factor and not the mill
@xdygmnyrdf
@xdygmnyrdf 4 жыл бұрын
lol i can break my 1000dollar router by pushing the spindle with my bare hands
@xtiz
@xtiz 3 жыл бұрын
Its not the machine. Its the wrong holder in the spindle.. not a dual contact.
@TheElectr0nicus
@TheElectr0nicus Жыл бұрын
@@xtiz You mean that the Holder is rotating in the Cone of the Spindle. That would be bad news, because then the Cone is trashed when literally metal is rubbing on metal. It will work but will have a huge runout. Had that case with my hobby CNC, which is really powerful and sturdy for what it is. But also doing a heavy cut in aluminium 1,5- 2xD deep, but i didn't obiously pay enough attention to my workholding. So the workpiece shifted just a little bit and the 10mm Endmill jammed for just a second. But the spindle was rotating at it's programmed speed while the toolholder slowed down for one second (because of the jammed Endmill). The Tool didn't break surprisingly, but the Spindle cone had deep groves in it after that. Getting that replaced and everything up and running again was a major headache.
@danl.4743
@danl.4743 4 жыл бұрын
1:50 Tool to Titan: I'm gonna do trochoidal. OK? Titan: BOOM!
@EwieEnde
@EwieEnde 4 жыл бұрын
The chuck was too weak not stable enough
@prezesszaletu
@prezesszaletu 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding metric values. You are going global! Keep up the good work!
@niels-173
@niels-173 4 жыл бұрын
jeez, you're gonna break the machine before the tool !
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything 3 жыл бұрын
Dang that was impressive.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 4 жыл бұрын
Titan, I got to hear you speak 5 years ago and you had me convinced that I could climb Everest with Tennis shoes, Glad you are doing well.
@thedraggon2010
@thedraggon2010 4 жыл бұрын
I'm usually not impressed by videos of testing cutting tools, but I am very impressed by this one. I might have to see about getting some of these for our shop.
@RedBeard32190
@RedBeard32190 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a few people in my shop that will break that endmill........ by starting to mill with the spindle off.....
@chaddanylak8706
@chaddanylak8706 4 жыл бұрын
or m4 instead of m3
@Coolarj10
@Coolarj10 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I just watched a 3.5 minute video of a single end mill...but your enthusiasm made it oh so entertaining to watch!!
@andrewgiles6192
@andrewgiles6192 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play for proving what can be done, doubt the spindle bearings and drawbar enjoyed the experience, but as a one off it was pretty incredible!
@TRRGuns
@TRRGuns 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a couple of these for my shop. Definitely not gonna put them through as much as you have but I'm still looking forward to seeing how well they perform for me
@michadzidek6174
@michadzidek6174 4 жыл бұрын
During the 2nd pass, the milling cutter performs trochoidal movement or the spindle has been damaged?
@GeorgiMirov
@GeorgiMirov 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Titan , this was impressive cut also it was really interesting to see that flex from toolholder ! Please comment on this wobble of the tool on your next video !
@shonaoneill5151
@shonaoneill5151 4 жыл бұрын
That is an incredible tool! I would like to see further tests. What HP is your cnc working with? Looks like a small machine. I though your spindle was going to buckle, (suprised the tool didn't break) when I saw the wobble!
@stefanhammerle2356
@stefanhammerle2356 4 жыл бұрын
the tool holder was like yep i am gonna dance to that sexy tool machine: let s do it together
@TanerUNER91
@TanerUNER91 4 жыл бұрын
Machine: you cant survive Tool: hold my beer...
@rhinhorns8026
@rhinhorns8026 4 жыл бұрын
wow impressive , even if i had pain for the spindle that seems to flex during the second slotting at a moment ! crazy tool well done kenna!
@Kevin-tf4fl
@Kevin-tf4fl 4 жыл бұрын
RHINHORNS its the Toolholder not the Spindel
@rhinhorns8026
@rhinhorns8026 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-tf4fl yeah better for the machine integrity :D
@euclidmachineanddesignllc704
@euclidmachineanddesignllc704 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-tf4fl what in the tool holder is allowing that movement? When I first watched the video I thought the table was moving but after seeing your comment I agree that it looks like the movement is in the tool holder.
@xXSquankyXx
@xXSquankyXx 4 жыл бұрын
Blew my mind when that tool handled that metal like a champ! Very impressive! You guys hiring at all.
@nickp701
@nickp701 4 жыл бұрын
Very professional video. Excellent demo.
@tj9382
@tj9382 3 жыл бұрын
A well deserved plug for Kennametal Tools, and quite right too. They don’t only talk the talk, they walk the walk. You’ve got the zombie mill, I wonder what this should be called. Perhaps “the spindle reaper”, or “the Rambo”, (“don’t push me to far”).
@willywgb
@willywgb 4 жыл бұрын
OMG. That is amazing. What was the Spindle HP during this cut? Cheers Willy
@socercrze
@socercrze 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Titan!!!! What tool holder are you using???? I'm going to try exactly what you did but with 40 taper dual contact and see how well that slot handles as well. I will also be using a DMG Mori.
@FlightRecorder1
@FlightRecorder1 2 жыл бұрын
Loving that enthusiasm!!
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez, I've never seen a machine flex like that before, that can't be good for it.
@Kevin-tf4fl
@Kevin-tf4fl 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Krueger this isn’t the Maschine is it the Toolholder
@bluustreak6578
@bluustreak6578 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-tf4fl Even at 1:50? You can see the spindle itself there, and it does *appear* to move quite a lot, but I dunno :)
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-tf4fl the tool holder is flexing a lot more but the machine is definitely flexing too
@nonjb3811
@nonjb3811 4 жыл бұрын
@@85CEKR i think that is not spindle or tool flex - but servo's hunting and struggling
@NateAIM
@NateAIM 4 жыл бұрын
@@nonjb3811 yeah that's what I thought at first too. Go back and look at it again, I think that tool holder and spindle are flexing
@peterpocock9062
@peterpocock9062 4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, it looks like I might have to buy a new endmill!! Nice one Titan
@fryer05maverick31
@fryer05maverick31 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see go thru some D2 like that.
@PatrickFarrell_KJV
@PatrickFarrell_KJV 4 жыл бұрын
That was very impressive. Here’s a man who loves his work.
@christiannunez8031
@christiannunez8031 4 жыл бұрын
The stress that the machine feels in the second slot was insane.
@cpufixer1
@cpufixer1 4 жыл бұрын
this is so good I got it on Loop...this is priceless..
@territoryboyproductions5999
@territoryboyproductions5999 4 жыл бұрын
Never known a holder to walk around in a spindle like that
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just because of the full slot and amount of pressure I put on it.
@JDFuchs
@JDFuchs 4 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC Oh man I thought you were doing an adaptive slot at first. Man that tool is amazing to hold up beyond what your machine is happy with! Well done.
@AbbeyRoad69147
@AbbeyRoad69147 4 жыл бұрын
@@JDFuchs Yikes. (I also thought that.)
@euclidmachineanddesignllc704
@euclidmachineanddesignllc704 4 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC so the tool holder was being sucked out of the spindle and allowed it walk around? We were thinking it was the axis's moving due to the force.
@xtiz
@xtiz 3 жыл бұрын
@@euclidmachineanddesignllc704 wrong holder, not a dual contact holder in a dual contact spindle..
@joostpoos5014
@joostpoos5014 4 жыл бұрын
you should try our "Diver" cutter from Gühring !!
@Roetz40
@Roetz40 4 жыл бұрын
I'm backing this ;)
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker 4 жыл бұрын
I tried a couple guhring divers the other day doing some slotting of steel plates, they chatter and it eventually exploded doing a straight plunge as advertised. These were the small diameter ones 3/16" of an inch, I also tried a Niagara that was chatter city and a Kennametal Harvi 1 HPHV that ended up being dead silent and lasting. I'm still using the kennametal tools on the current job. Good tools empower you to make more money faster. Maybe the diver is better in the larger sizes or with better machines, I don't know.
@flozo98
@flozo98 4 жыл бұрын
@@multiHappyHacker I did my final exam with the Diver and it did better than the kennametal in this video. With a 11,5mm endmill I milled 1xD slots with 290m/min (ca. 8000rpm) and fz=0,75mm/t (ca 2400mm/min) into 16MnCr5 (5115 in America). Nothing broke and in the evening the mill looked like it was new.
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker 4 жыл бұрын
@@flozo98 The TE is fairly recent, in what way did it do better?
@Honzishek
@Honzishek 4 жыл бұрын
oh Titan when you talking about our trade . Its just more awesome . Boom right on the money ! crazy video crazy tool crazy man ;) . And that chip comming out . a lot of volume on that Tool . cool keep it up from EU !
@ehamann2309
@ehamann2309 4 жыл бұрын
Im impressed
@Patchworkdaddy007
@Patchworkdaddy007 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!👍
@Sicktrickintuner
@Sicktrickintuner 4 жыл бұрын
💥 boom! Insane. That spindle flex
@Hendreh1
@Hendreh1 4 жыл бұрын
1:49 i can See the Spindle wigle 🤠😆😆. Poor DMG machine 😧🇩🇪
@bdude92
@bdude92 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow.
@EliAngwin
@EliAngwin 4 жыл бұрын
It's insanely epic!!
@Donkusdelux
@Donkusdelux 4 жыл бұрын
Time for some cat50! At first I thought you where doing a little arch milling until I realized it was flexing xD
@Rhino90_au
@Rhino90_au 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, I think I saw the spindle flexing at 1:49. That tool is amazing.
@pakman422
@pakman422 4 жыл бұрын
That's the toolholder. DMG Moris spindles ain't flexing LOL
@Ztalin
@Ztalin 4 жыл бұрын
@@pakman422 If you look again you see the whole spindle flexing.
@331982chris
@331982chris 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a test with Iscar ECR 15 years ago. 16mm 2xd full radial 15 degree ramp. No problem at all but getting the hook like chips away... I've never felt such uncomfortable on a machine as in this situation.
@tomte47
@tomte47 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are hitting the limit of the hsk 63 connection, might do better if you can get a shorter gaugelength holder. But really cuts like that are for hsk 100 or 50 taper machines with box guideways.
@automan1223
@automan1223 4 жыл бұрын
good lord !! just look at the stick out but it did chatter in Y axis mid point, still terribly impressive and NO coolant. amazing !!
@bigmike7239
@bigmike7239 4 жыл бұрын
i Wonder what was the spindle load, still insane milling
@game_Tank
@game_Tank 4 жыл бұрын
Yes cool to see from your heavy machinery To high speed🥳 👍🏻
@jamesm3268
@jamesm3268 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously impressive.
@CNCLearningAndEngineeringTech
@CNCLearningAndEngineeringTech 4 жыл бұрын
This is unbelivable . incredible metal cutting.
@stephenhosier8302
@stephenhosier8302 4 жыл бұрын
This goes to prove what ive been saying for a while. Tooling is surpassing our machines. Our machines and work/tool holding will give before the tool with top of the line tools.
@JSAFIXIT
@JSAFIXIT 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know the temperature that tool reached doing this.
@florian821
@florian821 4 жыл бұрын
At the edge its accually a few 1000C.
@Dyna78
@Dyna78 2 жыл бұрын
Ideally, the heat produced in the cut is passed through the chips as they are cut away, hence the dark blue color. I bet that tool was still a little too hot to touch though!
@ReiniGrauer
@ReiniGrauer 4 жыл бұрын
Was it pulling the tool holder out of the drawbar?
@hudat4846
@hudat4846 4 жыл бұрын
WOW. Could we see this test again in 4340 or H13 in the neighborhood of 45 HRC? That would certainly convert the skeptics!
@petrpolak7293
@petrpolak7293 4 жыл бұрын
Is the cooling off intentionally or just for filming purposes? Lots of heat going out in those chips judging by the colorization. Would coolant introduce sudden thermal stresses?
@violeman
@violeman 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what this "Harvi 1 TE" is made out of? And does anyone know what type of metal that is very hard, almost indestructible that could be used on punch tips? Thanks.
@jimnolimit
@jimnolimit 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, very impressive!
@rodneyeamon6567
@rodneyeamon6567 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm just curious but does Milling like that throw your machine out of spec?
@markottv_9065
@markottv_9065 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god ! I never test kennametal tool juste drills. But if i make this with jongen or fraisa tool they break instantly during the entry ! Can i have the tool ref?
@Jenzzzii
@Jenzzzii 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome footage and tool. Never thought that a holder could flex like this. But thats why you don't use crappy little DMG machines and bad toolholding for hardcore roughing. Cheers titan keep it going.
@daerrickjohnson1349
@daerrickjohnson1349 4 жыл бұрын
Jenzzzii crappy little DMG? That’s a Cat50 spindle...
@Jenzzzii
@Jenzzzii 4 жыл бұрын
@@daerrickjohnson1349 No it's not. It has HSK63.
@TheDayzman
@TheDayzman 4 жыл бұрын
This IS KENNAMETALLL !!!!! Sparta style
@jackpicton6979
@jackpicton6979 4 жыл бұрын
jaw dropped! i wouldnt take that cut in ali, fair play to you guys!
@AlexLancashirePersonalView
@AlexLancashirePersonalView 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive Titan.
@alexbarnett8541
@alexbarnett8541 4 жыл бұрын
Annihilated that steel! I want to see more! 💥Sparks and rooter tails of blue chips💥
@alfonsocanales7210
@alfonsocanales7210 4 жыл бұрын
well, that's steel 1018 I'd like to know what that tool can do with a harder steel o even stainless steel, of course the tool wil break but I'll like to see some machining on that
@sachie123
@sachie123 4 жыл бұрын
That is insane...
@user-sw3qx5jg7k
@user-sw3qx5jg7k 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, and how z guides and spindle bearings feeling like after that torture?
@ipadize
@ipadize 4 жыл бұрын
Bearings: I dont feel so good
@FPV-wi8fw
@FPV-wi8fw 4 жыл бұрын
@@ipadize did you do it? *yes...* What did it cost? *Everything*
@TronVila
@TronVila 4 жыл бұрын
They didn’t notice a thing. It’s a DMG MORI, not a 97 Haas.
@1Corinthians151-4
@1Corinthians151-4 4 жыл бұрын
They feel good
@AATopFuel
@AATopFuel 4 жыл бұрын
That was insane! You blued in the plunge, but, you didn't blue at all for the rest of the cut. What an end mill, WoW!
@Blown460
@Blown460 4 жыл бұрын
They were blue before they hit the floor though!
@AATopFuel
@AATopFuel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blown460 They were blue as it came off the tips of the end mill. During the plunge. Notice the rest was slightly tinged through the rest of the cut. Imagine what it would cut like with flood irrigation.
@amrsvn-uf2jk
@amrsvn-uf2jk Жыл бұрын
How much NM(newton force) / Kw of a spindle power as minimum required for steel milling process ?
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 3 жыл бұрын
You were driving that so hard you were getting visible flex in the column. That's just nuts.
@HtownP
@HtownP 4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to see some1 actually push it to the limit! Ur videos amazes me that’s a fellow shop owner. Thx for ur videos!!
@WIPEYOURLENZ
@WIPEYOURLENZ 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a car the colour of the blue chips.
@danhernandez5703
@danhernandez5703 4 жыл бұрын
What is the spindle load at durning this? 180% ??
@mftmachining
@mftmachining 4 жыл бұрын
Holy Hell.....that was insane....spindle nearly breakin....
@kevbot5.0keller66
@kevbot5.0keller66 4 жыл бұрын
U think that hydraulic holder would would do better than a heat shrink holder? I've had .75 tools pull out of shrink fits.
@brandonowings4268
@brandonowings4268 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the new mori controls.
@roxyfox95
@roxyfox95 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know, if it is the most advanced tool? Anything to compare it to? Because I know some European brands that are ready to compete 😁
@daveringer9535
@daveringer9535 4 жыл бұрын
How many parts before it brakes!
@yannickwalter1
@yannickwalter1 2 жыл бұрын
are there endmills from kennametal in metric sizes?
@stevemill7783
@stevemill7783 2 жыл бұрын
Insane 😵
@theghost90
@theghost90 4 жыл бұрын
Cried for that poor DMU50, hard slot machining at HSK63 5axis machine... Make that cut at any OKUMA and BOOM, zero wobble . Also try that on HAAS please, guaranteed Estop at slot lol . Respect to Kenna btw
@173roberto
@173roberto 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized some deflection was induced to the spindle, probably a shorter lenght tool holder would have eliminated it
@TacticalChris
@TacticalChris 4 жыл бұрын
Remarkable tool
@Speeder84XL
@Speeder84XL 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - that was the most crazy thing I have seen! Really impressive tool that's still intact after that kind of abuse
@harrybarry4158
@harrybarry4158 4 жыл бұрын
That's one badass tool
@cryptojunkie5875
@cryptojunkie5875 4 жыл бұрын
What a beast
@theworkshopmechanicchannel3296
@theworkshopmechanicchannel3296 4 жыл бұрын
It beats the hell out of my Bridgeport 🤭
@marcmuller3359
@marcmuller3359 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy !
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker 4 жыл бұрын
hoooly crap. I just bought a bunch of kennametal harvi 1s for slotting some steel plates too, absolutely silent, amazing.
@therambler0001
@therambler0001 4 жыл бұрын
Lets roll them dice and "Send It."
@DuBB900
@DuBB900 3 жыл бұрын
Your awesome, such a great teacher. Wish I had a mentor like you to teach me the trade of CNC it’s so interesting to me.
@Reknein
@Reknein 2 жыл бұрын
What I see: An Endmill What Titan seems to see: A Weapon of metal massdestruction... Thanks for sharing!
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 2 жыл бұрын
Mario, I absolutely love this stuff… Like a Big Kid. Murdering Metal and taking cuts that others think are impossible… Have a great day! Titan
@Reknein
@Reknein 2 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC Exactly my thoughts when I saw one of you videos the first time... :D "Nah, that dude is nuts..." A couple of videos later "Uhm... maybe my former supervisors are nuts or just a bit inexperienced..." (I am a operator of a 5-axis milling machine, formal "industrial mechanic specified in milling") keep that energy!
@PICKLECREW
@PICKLECREW 4 жыл бұрын
Booms all around Hip hip, BOOM
@ThreadTracerforGibbsCAM
@ThreadTracerforGibbsCAM 4 жыл бұрын
"we are gonna go 45 degrees straight down" :) ...but awesome video
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly... straight down in a linear direction of 45 degrees... going from high to lower...
@jackhannah7201
@jackhannah7201 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! was thinking the tool would break. In shock at that!
@ryankulcavage3349
@ryankulcavage3349 2 жыл бұрын
That spindle floats like boat! 🤣
@arpadsomogyi4986
@arpadsomogyi4986 4 жыл бұрын
i want to see on the haas, boom goes the cnc
@HeadTester
@HeadTester 4 жыл бұрын
Which will break first this bit or his XS shirt
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪 XXL Brother...
@jayding123
@jayding123 4 жыл бұрын
This is the third time I've watched this video today.
@ephremtsegaye6
@ephremtsegaye6 3 жыл бұрын
how much cost for this tool ?
@hench_wrench_repairs
@hench_wrench_repairs 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I’ll have some of them shavings please, they look sick..
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