CRAZY ANGRY INLET EATS MIDNIGHT EXPRESS! | ROUGH SEAS | Boats at Jupiter Inlet

[@Mankick]

That boat boat stuffed! Best fail yet

[@RoughInlets]

Did you see the Cobia in my latest video?

[@Mankick]

@@RoughInletsI didn't, but now i need to check it out

[@Metal0sopher]

Those ugly Cat's, like that Freeman, slice through these waves like they're nothing. They're ugly but if I got a boat that's what I'd get. They are so stable and so smooth in all types of water, and probably more fuel efficient. Now I'm not a boater, but that's the impression I got from all your vids I've binged over the last few days.

[@darkprose]

Usually the stuffing happens so fast it’s over before anything can be done, into the wave and out again, but that bow wouldn’t come up. It looked almost like the boat synced with a standing wave. Do you get standing waves at the mouths of these inlets? Is that even plausible? Still-extraordinary footage!

[@Mankick]

@@Metal0sopher Ugly Cat! you bite your tongue. Mortal me like us can only dream about every owning such a godly vessel.

[@joelmcmahan7386]

He did better than me, he is on a boat in Florida, and I’m in the cold mountains of N.C. thanks guys 👍🇺🇸

[@noooooooooooooooooo240]

shit man, what I would trade to move back to pisgah! all of these "conveniences" ain't worth it when you consider what we're losing every day to get there.

[@matthewsmith8063]

What I would give to be in western North Carolina instead of Baltimore

[@mattcartwright8272]

@@matthewsmith8063 Having visited both (as a Brit) I feel your pain. A friend worked in Firehouse 51 in SE Baltimore. It was by far the ROUGHEST place we visited on our trip. How we managed to not get car-jacked I will never know. NC State on the other hand is an absolute gem.

[@matthewsmith8063]

@@mattcartwright8272My Father is from Cherokee N.C. I used to spend summers on the Reservation

[@PureBlood42]

I'm an ignoramus when it comes to boating, but I'm oddly addicted to these videos. However, we're all familiar with "small craft advisories" and it's makes sense that a small boat and big waves can be a recipe for disaster. But, what I find interesting is in some of these videos, it seems the larger (or funky-shaped) boats are actually more prone to going Gilligan's Island than are the much smaller sport boats. Obviously, I know nothing of watercraft, but I love anything nautical. Heck, I just modded my entire bedroom into a total nautical theme! ⛵

[@jamesfolger264]

As with most of these "weekend captains", this guy just can't figure out when to add or back off on the throttle. For those learning here's a tip: if you're on top of a big breaking wave add enough power to raise the bow before you plow into the next which will prevent submarining. Also, if you find the seas passing you you could lose control (you should try to outpace the following seas). If you are going over breaking waves too fast though you could hurt your passengers (or worse, the boat!) so back off on the throttles. The key is to stay slightly ahead of the seas and you'll know when to add power (avoid submarining) or throttle back to prevent the following wave from lifting the stern up potentially causing a broach (when the boat ends up beam to on the waves) as this is the most dangerous place to be for that's how rollovers happen!

[@dapocho]

Dude you wrong

[@benkilgour4996]

When running with the waves, trim the engines up, increase throttle as the boat heads down a wave to lift bow and don't run straight down the race of the wave, turn 20 degrees to increase the relative length of the boat in relation to the wave period. Also don't buy a boat with a turned down bow, you don't see any of these in Northern Europe, you'd sink 10ft from the dock!

[@djyul]

Yes! Trim tabs up keep the bow high and cross the swell as you say! East coast UK,Shallow,sand bars when the wind blows,its worse,much worse than this!

[@NytronX]

Nailed it.

[@leeperryman1108]

Better yet, STAY OFF ANGERY OCEANS!!! one day not fishing will not hurt you

[@rogrambo]

Man that's the truth. Look at how well that little 27 ft Robalo with its hydro lift hull comes out of there.

[@dapocho]

@@leeperryman1108angry

[@cameronjuzda7246]

Are these midnight Express boats a poor design with the upside down bow I'm no engineer but they all seem to struggle.

[@brihosk]

Agreed! Not sure if it was done for styling or visibility but it does not work!

[@sdvten]

They are designed to be run fast in water that is not very rough. The down turn is supposed to help with visibility. An overrated boat IMO, especially for fishing purposes.

[@JamesP29]

Reminds me of a scarab...

[@josea5949]

Needed to trim all the way up and more speed to keep that bow up prior to hitting that series of waves

[@kaykat4469]

Not necessarily, the boat wasn’t traveling on plane so it would’ve taken a second to get to plane speeds and it’s also probably a no wake zone because it’s an inlet so that’s just not possible really. If he was in a tirranna maybe he could pull it off but a midnight express is not capable of safely thrusting hard enough to trim up in a no wake, it’s way to heavy. And he could’ve easily sunk his stern with the height of those waves. He did nothing wrong as a boater, sometimes the ocean is just bigger and badder then boats lol

[@fooballyou]

@@kaykat4469 " it’s also probably a no wake zone because it’s an inlet". Are you serious?

[@arrested-bedevilments876]

He failed to properly inflate his balls prior to heading in

[@kaykat4469]

@phil YoU rEaLlY dOnT HaVe A ClUe WhAt YoUr TaLkInG aBoUt . I’m a deck hand, my dads a captain, I have a bachelors in marine science and am working towards a masters in Marine biology, I own 2 boats and I am a certified ocean rescue responder, lifeguard and diver.

[@kaykat4469]

@@fooballyou yeah y’all are talking about how this man needed to go balls to the fucking walls through the inlet like?

[@cosanostra247]

Here we go all the KZbin Captains 🙄😂🤣.

[@unoefxz]

Guilty as charged, but I try not to dog anyone. Even the newbies on bowriders full of people stuffing every wave. You have to learn one way or another... Unfortunately it is the hardest way that usually teaches the best lesson. I used to intentionally stuff my jet boat for the wet t-shirts lol.

[@hikerhobby1204]

That’s funny! We’re so good in our arm chairs! Not!

[@Americangrifter]

Lmfaoo

[@terryfonz4603]

These outlets should have a warning sign that says on rough days clear the bow of your boat of passengers to avoid injury!! 😂

[@walcott423]

I've lived on the coast in FL my entire life. See those clouds? Those are "dock the boat and drink beer" clouds. Where are these fools going?

[@hikerhobby1204]

Some folks aren’t as smart as you! They don’t respect the power of Mother Nature!

[@angelsunawares....1877]

@@hikerhobby1204 can't fool with Mother Nature or father time...

[@RAMelancon50]

To KZbin!

[@potatolew4495]

The guy running the midnight express was a bit late powering down when the bow started nosediving but he did recover well.

[@f.j.h.4194]

He was lucky.....shipped a good amt of water.

[@chiphill4856]

Should have had his engines trimmed more up to keep the bow up.

[@waylonswaycraps]

@@chiphill4856 them boats sit low in the front anyway! Bad design hunk of expensive junk

[@bobjuniel8683]

I am not an experienced boat man but I believe the helmsman should ride on the back of the wave. If the boat speed is faster than the wave it will surf down the front of the wave into the trough. Because of boat the length of the cigarette it appears to have had a following wave catch it and push it from behind. When the water in front of the boat resists the boat and the boat is pushed forward powerfully by the following sea, the boat will tend to release the energy by self steering, bow up and planing, turning sideways to port or starboard or worse still pushing the bow down. If you slow motion or pause the video, you can see the boat had a wave catch up and drive the boat forward and down into the wave in front. It went under because the wave behind lifted the aft end . Some helmsmen say go faster than the waves at all times with a following sea (waves coming hard and fast from behind.) I read another comment explaining to trim up first, that makes sense. We sometimes see that speed doesn’t always work at Haulover Inlet where the shallow water creates steep waves, what we call steep chop. It is simply the power of the water in a dangerous sea. Waves catching up with waves in front have a lot more energy. We call the rogue waves.

[@timpannella9795]

If people doubted freeman’s ever, just watch all of these videos with a freeman in it. Unreal.

[@cardio10101]

[Mark: 6:11] By the time "Arethusa" figured out what was wrong it was too late. Can't depend on trim tabs alone to get you through that and vessel needed engines to be trimmed which you can see captain did seconds later.

[@henryharrison3988]

He was going too slow

[@AUClay]

Throttle is your friend! Stay under power always

[@Nativewarrior1433]

You got to keep your bowl up. Trim your motors up to keep the bowl up and you can use your trim tabs also to keep the bowl up

[@Freeflorida123]

So true

[@ccnoble1415]

This just enforces my limit of 3 feet or less, those boats are getting thrown all over, the sea always wins..lol

[@ICP_NATION]

Needed to power up a little coming in..get that bow up..

[@20thcenturyrelic]

That Phoenix got tossed around pretty good. The Dorado boat driver did a good job considering how small the boat is.

[@salbossfisheroutdoors7932]

Is it just me or are midnight express captains always the most stupid 😂

[@RoughInlets]

That boats designed to run, not sit down in the waves.

[@erichammond9308]

Both the boat and the driver - shallow deadrise and no bow flare - not a good combo with an idiot at the helm. Takes a real bonehead to almost broach to in a four to five foot chop.

[@maryreed4534]

The Arethusa cut through that like butter.

[@williamkertesz9071]

I was taught to get on the back of a wave and ride it in if you go over the wave that’s called broch . But I can certainly see when a wave is standing and not hardly moving forward that’s when you need to bow up and get going. But that’s where the danger lies so if you’re making forward progress on the back of a wave just be patient you’ll make it.

[@rileyhampton5349]

Following a midnight express stuffed is a freeman lol

[@BenGrilling]

Easy answer what he did wrong....It’s. His motor and boat trim. That could of easily been avoided by adjusting.

[@dougdavis8986]

You didn't actually say anything

[@MegaSuperbug]

@@dougdavis8986 he didn't say he said anything

[@MYTOYMAKERZ]

@@dougdavis8986 - He said a lot more that made sense than your useless comment because you obsoletely said nothing.

[@RoughInlets]

This was a great day of Filming - More on the way!

[@whatthe6532]

Dude you have great footage but the Click Bait titles really grind my gears.

[@st-dm5mr]

I don't know what it is but Midnight Express models seem to bury the front end more than others.

[@bermieboy1]

It's not the boat.

[@mudchair16]

It's not the most ideal hull design but there's no reason to have any significant issues in these conditions. Probably just a lack of experience.

[@ittypomeranc1743]

Have the same boat. If he would’ve came in 10-12 faster and trimmed up he would’ve been through there no issues

[@badmoonrising209]

Exactly let it do what its meant to do

[@kandtr3363]

Poor guy in the back looks like his first trip out on a rough day and probably his last

[@joeymuhleisen1759]

I think people only buy that boat for the name. Midnight express is a junk boat. You want to get out that inlet with no problems get a freeman

[@byronharano2391]

Ocean Master or Al Dhaen

[@chadwilliamparker]

Invincible ftw

[@Gibson_Nutt]

Freeman is the best riding center console on the market and I have a Seavee

[@doriangray2020]

@@Gibson_Nutt pfft...Seavee

[@arielcampanioni4162]

My opinion on the midnight express the nose is pointing down on rough waters they are not good my brother have one he's selling the boat to get something else

[@bishop9598]

You're correct about the speed under these conditions. One needs to think of it that you're more or less surfing the waves - esp when you are not on plane. When the height of the peaks and valleys of waves is enough, you don't get the speed right, and you do not have the bow high enough, you can "stuff" the bow very easily. Esp on a boat like the M Express that bow that actually goes down at the bow. Fountains have the same situation, so it is important to keep the bow up. Done correctly (like the Ocean 1 Yacht), it really is easy peasy. Experience = confidence, I suspect. At least he got it up on plane, once he felt confident to do so, so the it self-bailed out the stern.

[@stewartknight7464]

Bow riders are a bit prone in these conditions, more trim to keep bow up and steady speed, try not to surf the wave, not always possible, got lucky this time. Great video thanks. Stewart ex Navy

[@larryslemp9698]

What the heck?! A 'bit' prone?? Try 'absolutely' prone!!

[@4406bbldb]

Looks like someone convinced him to accelerate that Midnight express.

[@amascia8327]

I don't think I'd go out with less than two engines...

[@cunever]

Avoiding stuffing when running against the wave is a function of wave length vs. boat length: when identical, then stuffed. Going diagonally “increases” wave length: no more stuffing.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

People of Florida, let's welcome the submarine Arethusa to Jupiter Inlet! 🤣

[@ernieclonts7773]

We must remember when in rough seas. Trim motor up give a little throttle till she rides with nose up in the air. Dont get on a plane

[@ogk9678]

Boating education courses should be mandatory

[@sheara13]

Midnight express does not look like a Bluewater boat. In fact most of the boats in these videos are not Bluewater boats. Crossing this inlet is a lot like a bar crossing and many of these boaters would get killed crossing a real bar. Being in a big boat does not offer unlimited safety and from what I've seen - this is the major problem. A lot of these guys would be lucky to handle a 12' tinnie.

[@simonbaj334]

The worldcat make it look like it was calm as a bath

[@darkprose]

“Prepare to dive.” “Dive? We’re not a submarine!” “Oh yeah. Oh no.”

[@markpey5317]

Boat's bow slopes downward, terrible sheer line. Looks cool but is stupid

[@jamesjenkins1737]

I am no expert n used to own a boat, I see lot of these captions with the motors not trimmed properly for the conditions as to keep the bow up. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@billjamison2877]

Keep up the SPEED Numbnuts!

[@davidschnall4788]

Wrong. He didn’t need to run faster. It was a trim issue- not a speed issue.

[@Fv_wake_n_bait]

@@davidschnall4788 ..... without speed the trims won’t work.... you’re wrong

[@Fv_wake_n_bait]

@@davidschnall4788 speed and trim will get that boat through that inlet just fine

[@davidschnall4788]

@@Fv_wake_n_bait no you’re wrong. You can trim up motors on my boat (and almost any other boat) and bring the bow way up at 10mph. I’ve run boats from 10’ to 90’ over the last 40 years.

[@mr1asvegas784]

I don't think this was a matter of trim but a mistake in last minute speed adjustment. If you watch closely, a few secs before goes under, the bow is trimmed up just fine. He's riding the back of the wave and then speeds up causing the boat to roll off the front down into the trough and smacks into the wave in front. Because of the wave crowding and length of the boat, the stern is now being pushed by the wave in the back and making the bow plow into the back of the next set. Good thing is he kept his cool and backed off allowing the bow to get out and not trying to power through. I seriously doubt this captain doesn't know that he needs to trim up or control his speed at Haulover or Jupiter Inlet. It was just a small mistake anyone could have made.

[@eddie72bx99]

Wow that freeman eats up the inlet for lunch;inlet didn’t have a chance with freeman boat 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@hikerhobby1204]

Every time!

[@PureBlood42]

It seems the Coast Guard would just set-up a permanent substation here.

[@docbailey3265]

I’m pretty sure they already have one.

[@kevinwilliams855]

He made it through safely so all is well

[@Shornandkenny]

That's the spirit

[@driftless1870]

Kudos to em all. I’d have been looking out the window of the cantina with my boat still on the trailer.

[@hikerhobby1204]

You’re the smart one!

[@blackrose6055]

1:25 you can see how the boat nearly sink, many people lost there lifes with that same fail but how I see is that kind brand of boat is only good for fine weather I think because because we use different kind of boat to travel with when fine and rough weather 🙂🙂

[@michiganengineer8621]

First thing the driver of the M.E. did wrong was misjudging the speed of the waves on his way back in. He needed to either back off the throttle just a touch or (a better option) speed up quite a bit. He also needed to trim that bow up more.

[@raeanker3078]

Midnight express aren't a very seaworthy boat ,and people that buy midnight express boats usually have no clue how to drive a boat ,so it's a match made in heaven really.

[@RoughInlets]

I think they are seaworthy, it is just a matter of running them right. Not ment for BIG days offshore.

[@DanTheManIOM]

once you are free of the inlet, was the rest of it that bad ? weather looks a bit crappy too, thinking these might be the better captains going out.....

[@roger9453]

He should have bought a Bertram!

[@matthewbarymow4402]

At 3:10 this guy did really well for the size and hp of the boat!

[@AndyCan]

been watching these for a while - looks like the ME boats are prone to this with the dipped-down bow. still it looks like a rough day!

[@larrydowling5213]

Coming in, timing only has a little bit to do with it. You gotta know how to ride the wave by working the throttle and trimming the nose up. 🤙😷🇺🇲

[@mrad1981]

You ever catch any downeast style boats or keel boats coming in and out? Would love to see how they do.

[@ethanchandler5582]

I noticed through haulover channels that 125% of the captains don't trim up for plane!!!

[@davidharris8797]

This inlet is amazing

[@garadiablo1]

Captain’s technique aside, boat design also has a significant impact on this situation. Although center consoles keep growing to impressive proportions, their bow height is limited by the captain’s viewing angle. Any higher and it would create a blind spot forwards. Not a desirable situation, especially for the majority of cc buyers who are pleasure boaters. This leads to big boats with a “downwards”-looking bow. Designers can make them look cool and bullet-like, but it can lend itself to situations like this one. One solution is to design for a flybridge-driven vessel, where visibility at the first level of the boat is of secondary concern and the bow can be raised up to a competent height. Another solution can be seen in the more utilitarian panga style boats, where the bow is raised to a more sea-worthy degree. However, this pang type of design is deemed ugly to the average pleasure boater and can indeed cut off front visibility. They are usually relegated to commercial applications with profesional- level drivers that are not as heavily dependent on a perfect front view.

[@byronharano2391]

That midnight express has the length and power to plough through the waves. Needed more power than to slow down.

[@jafo4u508]

I can't believe he slowed down either! He should've trimmed those engines to the moon and gave it the beans when he was coming down. Everyone is a Captain behind the keyboard, but his boat is made for those conditions.

[@adrianugalde5633]

Ok this guy #1 with that type of boat should have never had a problem he was going too slow and he was very lucky he had a cabin that pushed most of the water to the side or this would have been a salvage job for sure

[@rogrambo]

How bad ass was that 27ft Robalo just eating that stuff like candy? That hydro lift hull is amazing. You sure pay for it though.

[@richarda.valdes1197]

Allowed the bow to submerge. Must maintain hand on the throttle and watch the waves

[@arkdiver4824]

I missed the sinking boat

[@Georgie12248]

The first mistake was buying a Midnight Express.

[@omarrivera4892]

Yep

[@gkvogt]

No, the mistake was taking it out.

[@user-ww1tf3ed1b]

Trim the bow up and increase speed. The express is a planing hull not a displacement hull.

[@unoefxz]

He just got unlucky with his angle of attack. It happens to the best of the best. Everyone knows, never let a wave catch you in following seas. When the swells are closer together than the length of your boat you plot a diagonal line... Not really possible once inside the inlet though so, if all else fails, trim up and go to max wake to get the bow up.

[@mini14kid]

what's with all the boat bows with that downward slope, boats used to have a upwards bow slope and for good cause! is it to look cool or something , don't look like it works very well

[@circomnia9984]

I wonder what that blue boat went to pick up out there? Because it sure looks a heck of a lot heavier coming back!! Either some bricks, or maybe they caught a whale? Who knows.

[@racinjayson76h98]

When in doubt plane it out!!!!

[@michaeld5888]

Nibbles at rather than eats I would say. These planing externally powered designer bath tubs seem to owe more to style and kudos in playing to the camera rather than utility and do seem to struggle getting out of the harbour, even in these mild conditions. As pointed out below it seems wise to steer well clear of them on the other side of the Atlantic where the term seaworthy bites a touch harder.

[@troyezell5841]

The Contender backed off the throttle too much and did not trim the engines up enough to bring the bow up higher, the bow got dragged under. Also, that turned down bow is a no go.

[@bobseitz2727]

Trim up & work the throttles.

[@marvintyson]

Ah, the classic water shovel

[@dougsprojects6431]

Not really been in a boat in the ocean, let alone with waves like this. However, here as of late I have been watching several other channels featuring haulover inlet. Based on what I have seen and heard on them, Power, get the boat going just fast enough to be on plain and keep the bow up, that seems to keep you from submarining.

[@gradybrowning3976]

The Ocean 1 Yacht looks like a giant flats boat.

[@rainblank283]

I would so much like to try this!!!

[@swflfishing2902]

He bought a midnight express. They have the opposite of bow flare, cool name though.

[@gregorydiggs9227]

This inlet is no joke.

[@taberzak7587]

As an inland Canadian in Northern Ontario, I think he went about 5 knots too slow. Instead of pushing through the waves, the waves were pushing him. But I’m kinda stoned, and what the puck do I know about boats?

[@NytronX]

The downward slope of the gunwhales of the bow on the Midnight Express is a terrible design. Not suitable for rough water.

[@tonyburton4963]

Have seen more midnight express boats dip the nose than any type in this type of video. They are either crap boats compared to others in same size or they are perceived to be fashionable so lots of cashed up people buy them that have no real idea what they are doing so they inevitably dip the nose. With their droopy nose design they will do that quite easily anyway.

[@rockymilano2071]

It's all about trim and making sure your bilge pump is on 24/7

[@terryfonz4603]

Deck water doesn’t go to the bilge if it does you have a very shitty design! Deck water drains overboard out of thru hulls above water line. Deck level is above water level so when waves come over the water drains overboard the bilge stays dry. This way you keep air in the bilge sealed from the upper level and never sink because of rough weather or rain!

[@rockymilano2071]

@@terryfonz4603 anything above 25' maybe. But the boats that are sinking on videos aren't water tight. That's why they have a bilge pump . imagine being stuck in a heavy rain without one .

[@rockymilano2071]

I just watched one of these video where boat get swamped and almost sinks. A bilge pump with a few people bailing water could save your ass

[@rockymilano2071]

@@terryfonz4603 listen, any I/O boat under 25' is going to have a bilge pump that pumps water out of engine compartment. If you don't your a dumb dick

[@aaronr1328]

Rocky you about to whip it out and measure ?

[@axeman6560]

Give the Midnight Express a break. Difficult sea state wind and tide working against him and a short gap between waves. That boat is for high speed, look at the bow, he's always gonna cop a bit over the front in those conditions. He did fine.

[@Captain-f7i]

In the situation of the first boat, speed does not help you, just the contrary. You have to control the speed in order to stay between the two waves, but more towards the front one. And, never let the boat t surf. Using full power and speed is not the solution

[@surfstarcc1]

I've seen more than one boat capsize at Sebastian inlet doing the same thing that midnight Express did.

[@RoughInlets]

Yeah, I think that closed bow kept this from being a lot worse.

[@surfstarcc1]

@@RoughInlets nothing like knee deep water in the cockpit to make traversing an inlet more interesting.

[@TheSaltyExplorer]

@@surfstarcc1 rinse the fish blood of the deck a little

[@surfstarcc1]

@@TheSaltyExplorer Good point, less clean up when you get back to the dock. 🤣

[@seanburns5937]

Uhhh first of all the boat didn't sink so......what's up this videos title?

[@NewWaveSports229]

When going against the waves try to trim the front end up and go faster.. on way back ride the wave just right

[@qafmbr]

I think I'd have a vest and a handheld radio with beacon attached to it.

[@MysteryMycology]

Ever seen a Freeman stufed?

[@angelsunawares....1877]

Coming back in... A little bit too much throttle, causing dabao to go forward and drop into the back of that wave ahead of them... while the following sea raises and pushes the transom forward, shoving the bow into the back of the wave ahead... having gone slower that would not have happened

[@johnfryman4428]

Nice job Ace

[@rayadams5926]

Needed for speed

[@mikemangeney8001]

Freeman boats r sick Joey.

[@RoughInlets]

Yes they are

[@johnnymichaelangelo9264]

Damn !!!how big are those swells comin in there holy shit....

[@stephencoachalone2575]

As the captain of the boat he should know his boat and what it can handle and don't be scared of the boat. Alot of mistakes happen because they get scared. A good captain always keeps his head on straight for the most part. Im a crazy captain heads on straight when family in the boat. But me by myself whole different story. Me personally full throttle all the way. My boat sinks its gonna float. So that fear is not ther. I know my boat literlly in and out. I rebuilt the boat. But anyway full throttle baby. Also Delaware has a nasty inlet too. One wave just sites ther do to cure t wave reachs 12 foot sometimes. Thanks all I know I got screws loose. Lol injoy

[@andybrand6156]

I do NOT have experience in waves so close together. I can't see where trimming the boat helps much at the slow speed to get the bow up. I'm a Southern Californian. I might have swamped it being to timid to throttle up. I do like reading everybody's solutions.

[@rcl3514]

With outboards like that,by trimming the outboards up, it forces the stern down and bow up, even at lower speeds. This way when he hit that second wave, the bow lands on top of it, instead of plowing thru it. Even 2 or 3 degrees would have made a huge difference.

[@hv9356]

I agree, you have to trim up a bit and slow down a bit. Plow the road !!! I'm not a Mid-Night express fan, their bow dip design sucks.

[@Freeflorida123]

Can someone explain to me why none of these guys trim the bow up when they go through heavy surf??? I have many years of experience running a 175 Bayliner IO through the st. Lucie Inlet and seas 3 to 5 all you have to do is trim the Bow... take a boating class