Crazy.!! Has the Bottom Dropped Out of the Motorcycle Market? | Live Auction Walkthrough

Crazy.!! Has The Bottom Dropped Out Of The Motorcycle Market? | Live Auction Walkthrough at Shuttleworth
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Welcome to our latest adventure! In this video, we head to Shuttleworth, an old airfield rich with history, for a massive motorcycle auction hosted by Iconic Auctions. We're here to investigate whether the bottom has truly dropped out of the motorcycle market. With 167 bikes up for grabs, we take a detailed walk around to check out the incredible variety on offer. From vintage classics to modern speedsters, there's something for everyone.
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[@elchaconaso]

flippers pushed the price of everything up,now that they are trying to unload their "investments" they finding out that there's no more flippers out there.Just because is old and rare does not mean is valuable,you have to have someone that wants what you are selling.

[@garywheeley5108]

Same as cars ....

[@GT380man]

It’s a predictable effect as buyers reduce in number, the quantity of beautifully restored motorcycles grows and in due course, their owners age out & their vehicles come up for sale. Not every bike will crash in short order, but I expect the mass market bike, currently fetching £20K, will in due course be almost unsaleable. It’s made much more likely because todays youth and those of the last generation or so rode bikes in ever smaller numbers. The peak was probably the late 1960s to the late 1970s. If you were a teenager then & rode bikes, and later took it up again, you’ll now be mid 60s to mid 70s. There aren’t enough behind us to want them. Enjoy them now and don’t concern yourself with illusory “investment value”. That was a real thing, but my hunch is it’s crested and will never recover.

[@thatbikersimon]

Your perspective is quite insightful and highlights some important trends in the market for classic motorcycles. As the demographic that cherishes these bikes ages, the demand inevitably shifts. The peak interest period you mentioned, from the late 1960s to the late 1970s, is indeed a crucial factor in understanding current market dynamics. With fewer young enthusiasts to take their place, the market for these beautifully restored bikes will likely face significant challenges. Enjoying these motorcycles for their intrinsic value rather than viewing them as long-term investments seems like a wise approach. The market dynamics are changing, and while some bikes may retain their allure, many might struggle to find new homes at current prices.

[@MichaelSmith-mc8bd]

Totally agree, my friends and myself have all come to the exact same conclusion’s.

[@user-io2et5bv2s]

Absolutely spot on analysis. But applicable to ALL nostalgic collectibles, not just bikes. I am of the 60/70’s biking era and indeed, my generation are all dying off or no longer able to ride. I would give it an another 2 or 3 years and then prices will fall off quite substantially. The stuff to collect today, in my opinion, is old electronic gaming machines or similar from the 90’s onwards. That’s the generation that will soon be replacing us old farts and will have the money to pay stupid prices to relive their Sonic the Hedgehog youthful experiences. Life! It’s a funny ole game… Good luck youngsters!

[@jerzywoking1699]

How many of those bikes sold will actually get ridden by their new owners?

[@MichaelSmith-mc8bd]

@@jerzywoking1699 Very few I suspect.

[@mikeatcora]

It didn't look like a bidding room full of bikers wanting a piece of their youth, it looked like it was mostly dealers wanting to make easy money, most vehicle auctions are heading that way nowadays.

[@thatbikersimon]

If your a dealer,surely it’s the best time to buy 💴

[@muckergee2113]

@@thatbikersimon its a great time for them to take a long walk off a short pier mate !

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Games up for the grifters😊

[@jerzywoking1699]

​@@muckergee2113So where do you buy your bikes?

[@muckergee2113]

@@jerzywoking1699 Not off some grifting dealer .... thats for sure Mr Turpin !

[@keithlongley362]

I'm 71, we old gits still ride bikes. My 1993 vfr 750 Honda still hanging on, just like its owner.

[@peterk2455]

As a rider I'm glad prices are dropping. Unfortunately the 'investors' and Arthur Daley flippers, dealers and auction houses are trying to push them up. The car world has all manner of old tat being sold for stupid money, because of the 'investors'. Worse is that it also means the stupidly high price of parts. Who wants to pay $930 for a piece of abs plastic? or $250 for a set of oem piston rings?

[@nigel274]

I'm 72....proud owner of a VFR1200F ....rode this afternoon ..love it. Mind you bought a monkey bike last month if can't get on the vfr😅

[@whitecrane3714]

The younger generation has enough to make a living ,costs are staggering let alone ride a bike for 3 months of the year.

[@bonnie6501]

I was with the new owner of the Henderson yesterday and looked at the bike , he has the knowledge and parts to restore it ,and its gone to a good home

[@thatbikersimon]

That’s great news. Congratulations to the owner and it would be fantastic to see it running

[@petrichor649]

We're all getting old and the young don't get motorbikes, it takes too long to get skilled on them in the TikTok world.

[@thatbikersimon]

There will be a generation loss of motorcycles. Most of the kids are riding on electric scooters now

[@andypicken7848]

petrichor649 Thats right. Just take a look at the age of the men looking at the bikes, almost none seemingly under 50. Owning bikes like these is an old mans hobby

[@guffmam6995]

The younger generation are a lot poorer than previous generations which means they can't afford a collection of bikes and a garage to work on them. For the young who do ride why would they buy a classic bike when they can get a modern retro with reliability, warranty and finance.

[@jayabacromby675]

Try to find someone who can sharpen the blade of a lawn mower, let alone repair one.

[@gerrywhelan5761]

​​​​@@andypicken7848Of course it's older guys that are in to those bikes and can effort them, see its mainly nostalgie, good past memories and the like that attract them to those machines , same with the guys into classic cars, young guys wouldn't understand or get that, and wouldn't have the wealth of someone working for 40 years, also a lot of the time they are buying in to a social scene, with activities all year round, meeting people and belonging to something.

[@VisorView]

As someone in the car world pointed out, prices are determined by nostalgia. Each generation remembers the bikes of their youth, and that prompts them to buy one. As each new generation comes through the desire changes. 1950-1960 cars are now out of favour, being replaced by Capri's and Escorts etc. It makes a lot of sense. An awful lot 'classic' 70's bikes were regarded as rubbish when they were new, yet the dealers describe them as desirable.

[@rupertbollywood1190]

To be fair you have to look at the whole picture. Mowed lawn and weedkiller - gone. Younger generations prefer meadows, rewilding, forests, etc. "Who dies with the most toys wins" - remember that? Look up what happened to the biggest limo in the world. You have a vast number of registered bikes in the UK, in the hands of a very few people who wrongly think we will buy them (and set up their kids' and grandkids' annuities). Demand will continue to exist but it will be much less.

[@agnosticevolutionist3567]

Nostalgia is an emotion of expectation.

[@martinhambleton5076]

That's exactly how it works. BSA Goldstars were off the scale a few years ago. Now that the owners are much older or passing away, the bikes are becoming available, and the latter day enthusiasts are not in the least interested in that generation of motorcycles.

[@rupertbollywood1190]

@@agnosticevolutionist3567 I sort of agree, but only in the very general sense. Nostalgia is a desire to return "home" - it's homesickness. You expect to return home. Therefore, whatever characterises "home" is desirable, to a nostalgic. However, I think it's more complex than that. The story of Pinocchio: Pinocchio tries to go home to find his creator/father, but he fails, as "the past is a foreign country". To some extent (i.e. with money and mechanical skills), it is in fact possible to recreate the environment that existed in the late 20th century, thanks to bikes. It's still the same experience as it was in the past, with old bikes. Therefore, it isn't a Pinocchio scenario. Great Expectations is a Dickens novel. I don't think middle aged and older guys are seriously trying to recreate the potential that was sold to them in their youth. You want to be a fireman and they tell you to become a lawyer. That's an example of expectations, but it has no relevance to the expectations of a middle aged or older person who's buying these bikes.

[@kickstartedwards6916]

In the next 10 years the majority of the bidders at that auction will be more concerned about care home fees than motorbikes - if only I was 21 again...

[@thatbikersimon]

very true that did make me chuckle 😂

[@chrisc9376]

That will empty there bank accounts.

[@marksimpson5218]

Totally agree, most of the bikers are 60+ now me included. The petrol heads are a dying breed.

[@queenslander954]

You mean people can’t afford $30,000 for a motorbike these days ? That’s crazy

[@thatbikersimon]

lol it’s an expensive toy

[@-DC-]

House prices have gone from 20k average in 1980 to over 250k today a over 1100 percent increase, At the same time as 100 quid in 1980 now having the buying power of 19 quid lol , Slowly but surely the people have been milked dry doesn't leave alot for buying Motorcycles god help the young in this Country 🇬🇧

[@Banditmanuk]

We found a similar experience at the Stafford auction. Lots of these classics are not fetching what owners think they are worth. The RD250LC. I know it only had a couple of miles on it but no way was it worth the upper estimate. Everyone really wanted the 350 anyway. I bought a brand new one back in 81 for £1300 and rode it like a lunatic 😅 Nice job with the vid, good to hear Amy 👍

[@thatbikersimon]

Certainly an interesting experience Richard. I guess some of these bike have already hit the appreciation. I noticed a lot of oversea buyers having a bid with good exchange rates in their favour. It’s always nice to have a walk around and reminisce over what we use to own. 👍

[@roderernst9990]

These were learner ok, Aussie first law 250 or less.I remember one guy lasting 2weeks before writing it off in main street of Katherine.

[@Banditmanuk]

@@roderernst9990 Same here. You could have the 250LC on learner plates. So many of my fellow riders crashed these bikes. Way too fast for inexperienced people. Government changed the law the year after to a max of 125 on Ls

[@gairnmclennan5876]

They also made a 500 but not often seen even back then.

[@richy69ify]

Several hundred have been imported into the UK from countries like Germany where they were also very popular but much better looked after. The LCs will see the biggest depreciation in the future. May enthusiasts own more than one.

[@johnmaltby8241]

I had a 250 yamaha LC ,I payed £600, then 350 £650, both 82 model's should have put them in a garage 😅 now have a 1982 Honda cb250 super dream in nice condition 38,000 miles.. just keeps going & going, good old Honda 😊

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes you can’t beat the old Honda’s built to last 🏍️💨💨💨💨

[@maljohn1414]

I live in NZ and started riding in 1972 and currently own a 1999 Yamaha XJR1300SP in mint condition but the latest generation of kids just arent interested in Motorbikes and as a result prices are falling off a cliff.

[@thatbikersimon]

There to busy on their electric scooter 🛴

[@poulkjeldgaard2641]

Maybe it comes down to style? The xjr is a retro of 70ties bike, if you didn't live in 70ties why you fancy one? The popular Bikes are adventure and naked e.g. Tenere 700 or MT07, all the kids runs those. Many, including me, goes for all the electronics for safety e.g. curve-abs, traction-control etc.... Don't think the xjr ticks any of these boxes!

[@bearcatracing007]

Yet young riders are our biggest customers, mostly new riders as well!

[@PhilipBurton-dn3ce]

I own 6 bikes due to suffering a severe case of "motorcycle acquisition disorder"....I'm hoping my 7th or 8th will be '99 XJR...beautiful bike my friend

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

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[@TommyTucker0]

the Kawasaki Z1000 you feature is actually a Z1000H, I had one in 1980 ultra rare, it was a Mk2 with fuel injection, being quickly replaced by the GPZ1100

[@thatbikersimon]

I know I messed up a bit on that I realised afterwards. Thanks for the update 👍

[@angledangle1]

I knew someone with the H version only sold in Black with gold stripe . Beautiful.

[@peterhughes4767]

The market will bounce back, mortgage prices are high, and wages have stagnated since 2008 crash, slow prices are reflected right across the board , not just motorcycles .

[@daystatesniper01]

Enjoyed this a lot , these prices remind me of what i used to collect , railwayania stuff , back in the late 90s early 2000s stratoshperic money , now in 24 apart from a few examples stuff is going for a quarter of what it was back then

[@thatbikersimon]

Glad you enjoyed it, I shall be covering some more in the near future 👍

[@FlyingFun.]

bikes should not be an investment imho they should be ridden and enjoyed. obviously there are exceptions and some bikes should be in a museum. I would love an older well looked after bike but I'd want the price to reflect the fact that it is old and likely to be trouble keeping it working. I did look at getting an old bike as an investment a while ago just out of interest but decided the prices were ridiculous ( though not as bad as car lol ), I figured the chances are that the prices will simply come down a LOT once it becomes clear that old bikers are going to be unable to ride soon and youngers just don't care about bikes. The prices at this auction seemed high to me still, I think there is room for them to fall quite a bit more apart from very rare nice bikes of course.

[@GT380man]

I agree with you completely and for the same reasons. These factors leaning on valuations cannot be resisted or ignored, not unless you enjoy capital losses. Or riding a great deal on old, somewhat wonkey machinery!

[@thatbikersimon]

I totally agree I couldn’t own a bike I can’t ride but I’m worried about depression. Life is to short.

[@jerzywoking1699]

How many of these bikes will ever get ridden, no matter the age of the buyer?

[@robertcooke1774]

I'm 74 and have bought a 1959 triumph Thunderbird love it.

[@lisa-azrabroad4137]

The market has certainly fallen out of the vintage/classic bikes a 750 Norton Commander for 5K, what a steal for a wonderful bike

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s a buyers market for sure 👍

[@lisa-azrabroad4137]

@@thatbikersimon It is also like the classic car market, the middle age person who are the main buyers want vehicles of their childhood, 70's, 80's and even 90's and they are fetching good prices. Pre that era unless they are iconic like the Vincent, prices are dropping out because the demand is not there

[@nickmarshall9192]

Do you mean a Norton "commando" the commander had the rotary engine

[@lisa-azrabroad4137]

@@nickmarshall9192 yes commando

[@fuglbird]

I'm 66 and recently returned to motorcycling after being sensible for several decades. I found some of the motorcycles I owned in the seventies and eighties. The owners expected a lot more than I was willing to pay. I expect to ride 10,000 km every year and do not want to pay extra for high fuel consumption and need for frequent carburetor adjustments. I opted for an SV650 model 2017. Lower price, lower fuel consumption and fuel injection. I don't find the prices on the auction low at all.

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s great to get back in the saddle and yes bikes at auctions will continue to rise. I think you’ve made the right choice. Enjoy 🏍️💨💨💨

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

Excellent work you both did, noticed during bidding that seating on the average was half full. Can just guess that some punters from that era have joined the great bike race in the sky. Greets from Düsseldorf 😉

[@thatbikersimon]

Hi buddy, over the day it was full but a lot of people was in and out because it was so hot in the hanger. Thanks for the comment

[@jerzywoking1699]

Look at any auction-many seats are empty, as loads will stand at the back.

[@thatbikersimon]

@@jerzywoking1699 I’ve never bought a bike a auction but I’ve bought a house. Standing at the back means you can read the room better 👍

[@andypicken7848]

SherKhan And did you notice the amount of silver tops. Not an under 40 year old in sight

[@keithm6117]

Dreadful dynamics or lack of it from the auctioneer, they may as well have been selling timeshare. Overall a good presentation Vid and your assistant was exceptional..

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks Keith I was under the assumption that I could use there video footage which afterwards I found out wasn’t available otherwise it would of been improved slightly better

[@raymondo162]

12:01: laverda jotter ...................... lol

[@kaydeem5257]

@@raymondo162 I'm thinking more icronic than iconic....

[@thatpointinlife]

When rich people aren't willing to shell out a few grand for collectible toys, it's not a good sign for the economy.

[@thatbikersimon]

You would think it’s the best time to buy

[@mbingham10]

What you need to remember is like most things they go in cycles at the moment they are low but once interest rates drop people start investing there spare cash on other things classic or collectible bikes are one of these things like classic cars just wait people panic and sell they need to hang on to them

[@thatbikersimon]

Buy buy buy sell sell sell it’s not different to houses or gold 👍

[@marksimpson5218]

I’m not so sure, most of the motorcyclist that had them bikes are getting old themselves.

[@rogerthedodger5788]

Also dont forget to add 18% to the hammer price for (buyers premium / VAT)

[@thatbikersimon]

15% plus vat

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

@@thatbikersimon 15% x 1.2 = 18% @rogerthedodger5788 is correct, just stated the overall percentage on top of the hammer price.

[@davidrochow9382]

All vehicle prices worldwide went through the roof due to the virus and chip shortage as people had to wait a long time for the new ones. I think they are just going back to what they should be.

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes this is true, people had money to burn and everything went up

[@Paul-lc4io]

It is more than that, prices peaked around 2018 for classics then came back, some activity in 20/21 but the general trend is downwards from 2018. My classic Brit thumpers are now worth rather less than I paid in 2016 and I paid average cost for the condition back then. Wasn't intending to sell but knackered knees means I am now struggling to kickstart.

[@ohwell2790]

Put a pan under that HD. Back when I rode HD in the 1980's you could tell if they were out of oil if they didn't leak on the ground or on your foot or leg or exhaust pipes or out the breather. My road bike was a Moto Guzzi SP 1000 European model. Just made 80 in this July and still ride, but a 2023 Honda Monkey.

[@joeking4206]

15-18 for a 250 LC? Bloody hell. I can get a brand new Z900RS for less than that. Dream on baby 😳

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s a lots of Pennies. What would you think is a fair price for it? 12K

[@joeking4206]

@@thatbikersimon I’d give maybe 5K for it. Tbh I’d rather have the 350. Boomers like me are being asked a lot of money to indulge their nostalgia.

[@julianmorris9951]

@@joeking4206in ten years those bikes won’t be worth anything because all the people making nostalgia purchases won’t be riding, I’m 56 and a nostalgia purchase for me would be something like a mk1 escort, they’re a pile of junk so that wouldn’t happen, youngsters driving now will want something different in the future, all vehicles have a small window for a nostalgia purchase.

[@graantmnz]

@@thatbikersimon half that in NZ - I sold a nice RZ350 for NZ 16k (8k pds) a while back ...its currently for sale and only 9k NZ will buy it ie 4500 pds ..the prices have crashed.

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

The 250 LC was an iconic and beautiful bike but I remember having a go on one when they were new and not really liking it. Not saying there was anything wrong with it, just wasn't my thing. I'd be more inclined to buy one with miles on it to ride and maybe develop an affection than an unused one that I would just be devaluing by reminding myself why I didn't like it first time around.

[@christophervan6966]

I'm 62 and the desire to relive my youth on a motorcycle is receding rapidly

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s never to late, my mate is 72 and he’s flying out on bikes all the time

[@nickhillman7092]

I am 62 and just finished a 1110 trip on theMABDR

Just change to a bike that suits the aching bones. 🇬🇧

[@michaelreid5307]

How on earth could you ignore lot 525? The Vincent Series C is very rare.

[@thatbikersimon]

I don’t know enough on these bikes but next time il keep a better eye out

[@Bumblingbimbler]

I put a low ball in on a transalp 650, it still went for under £500. Needed recommissioning but would have been a bargain for someone.

[@Al_is_XXX]

yes, and no, depends on how much the recomissioning costs...although the TA is one of the best bikes ever made

[@thatpointinlife]

That TZ 250 was absolutely gorgeous! I can't believe it didn't sell.

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s a lot of money they were asking for it. Beautiful bike in fantastic condition

[@jerzywoking1699]

If it had racing provinence, such as winning chamionships, or having a famous former rider, it would have faired better. Just being a restored race bike that has no race history limits its appeal, even to current racers

[@BigMbiker.]

What fantastic bikes it’s brings back so many memories

[@thatbikersimon]

The older I get the more of a classic I’ve become lol

[@Bikegirl2022]

How exciting! I’ve never been to an auction but would be way to tempted to buy something 💵

[@thatbikersimon]

It really is! You should buy something

[@Pompomgrenade]

In that game😂 Amy beats a pair of Norton's❤

[@ohwell2790]

At 12:50 we can see the age group bidding on these bikes by all the balding heads. LOL

[@thatbikersimon]

lol

[@brummil]

Hy mate Gina is running in the end. Saved 400 Bucks for rebuilt carbs. I told u. 25y old, Orgi 5000km on clock. Carbs were not completely blocked. So i run 2 tanks with Liguy Moly Carb cleaner. Runs good but not perfect. My local dealers says, it has to run more fat. I should screw 180 degrees on fat. So i did. Gina is running smooth now and i can start customizing yet.

[@thatbikersimon]

Fantastic news. Sounds like your back up and running. Congratulations 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨💨

[@brummil]

@@thatbikersimon Yes. The livingroom is full of parts, which i reasonable can buy used or bargains on the Internet. Last Hit was an brandnew exhaust with street legal paper for the EU for 235€ incl. Shipping from Italy(GPR fabrication from Macca Sport). But if i Start the Bikebuild, i have make to run Gina smooth. I think, Job is almost done.

[@davidoram3423]

Could you translate please?

[@Fractal379]

Thanks Simon, but my wife's gonna hate you for this.

[@thatbikersimon]

lol why did you see something you liked or did you buy on the day

[@Fractal379]

@@thatbikersimon Absoolutely! MAking me rethink my plan & approach. She says you're always chucking more fuel on my the fire 😂 Huge thanks for this video!

[@thatbikersimon]

@@Fractal379lol thanks buddy

[@cp4512]

I’m looking for a couple of older bikes but I think I’ll wait for the market to drop further yet. Some great bikes shown in the video.

[@thatbikersimon]

I think there next one is at the NEC but check the iconic auctions website. It’s worth checking if your after something special

[@cp4512]

@@thatbikersimon thanks 👍

[@GT380man]

I could see the really old bikes and up to the 1960s retaining high value. The huge number of wonderful early Japanese super bikes are available in large numbers and lovely though I think they are, I no longer want one, even if it was free. I’ve two 1977 Suzuki GTs and don’t have time and energy to use them properly or even enjoy them as it is. I’m growing older.

[@jonesthesteam7206]

Hi Mike. Love your work.

[@bonditltd5346]

It looked like a lovely day for the auction. Some great bikes there selling for low prices imo.

[@thatbikersimon]

Absolutely.. a great day out even if your just going to have a look around

[@bucephulus4600]

I remember pranging my 250LC back in '86 beside Wahroonga Station. Driver came through a stop sign in his LC Torana. Clash of the LC's. Needless to say, I went arse over and that was the end of the bike.

[@thatbikersimon]

Sad story, but you lived to tell the tale. My buddy had just got his back on the road after 15 years of storage

[@bucephulus4600]

@@thatbikersimon I don't remember black ones here in Australia, they were all white with either the red or blue stripes. Used to ride it to school. Can't believe my father allowed me, my mother was horrified. A howler of a bike.

[@cfish64]

Nice work Bro and Lady..... appreciate it

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks buddy 👍

[@kevinpotts-to5nm]

TRY buying a bike on face-book market place..they are mental, [above dealer prices]

[@thatbikersimon]

Oh really I’ve not checked. But are they selling

[@zachwrench]

Those prices seem high to me I was using a currency converter to USD . I see why a lot of the old bikes in the US go back to the Uk. Much better deals to be had here thanks for posting this video.

[@thatbikersimon]

There was a fair amount of bike bought over the day from Oz and US buyers, I was thinking the exchange rate must be good for you guys.

[@kass9722]

the prices are high to 95% of the buying public, most watching/making comments have no idea there is another 18% of fees to pay

[@thatbikersimon]

@@kass9722 15% plus vat for auctions fees

[@zachwrench]

@@kass9722 that’s a steep fee the last auction I bought at it was 5 or 7 % . I think mecum is 20% here in the states which is a deal killer for myself not sure what barret is the small auction houses or private sales is where the deals are

[@andytalbot6719]

H & H sale at NMM recently, had plenty selling and a bunch of Vincentd selling well...

[@thatbikersimon]

Interesting to know 👍

[@stufrost4583]

I can't believe the Rothmans sp nsr didn't sell I've seen them advertised for a shed load more than £8 - £10, a rare bike indeed.

[@savagehamzter8850]

Wish i still had mine dry clutch magnesium wheels great bikes

[@thatbikersimon]

I thought that one would go

[@savagehamzter8850]

@@thatbikersimon So did I. Somebody got a bargain with the R1

[@thatbikersimon]

@@savagehamzter8850 I think the R1 was £5,750 including the 15% plus VAT auction fees.

[@marklohmann6267]

Recreational vehicles prices have risen disproportionately out of many peoples price range. General aviation has been greatly impacted also in the States due to huge price increases. Young people would rather stare at their screens in a controlled climate whilst sitting on a couch.

[@timothybrockbank7474]

Some cracking bikes there

[@thatbikersimon]

Some amazing bikes for sure

[@chillax498]

Good stuff mate, i think had the LC been a 350. Price wuda been much higher

[@thatbikersimon]

I totally agree

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Katana 1100 & CB1100r would Smoke that Laverda!

[@thatbikersimon]

The Katana is one ugly bike though 😂👍

[@mr.145]

Riding a Jota is an experience every biker should try.

[@maxflight777]

You two make a good -looking couple ! Best wishes !!

[@GrandadTinkerer]

Ha ha ha ha..

[@GT380man]

It’s a predictable effect as buyers reduce in number, the quantity of beautifully restored motorcycles grows and in due course, their owners age out & their vehicles come up for sale. Not every bike will crash in short order, but I expect the mass market bike, currently fetching £20K, will in due course be almost unsaleable. It’s made much more likely because todays youth and those of the last generation or so rode bikes in ever smaller numbers. The peak was probably the late 1960s to the late 1970s. If you were a teenager then & rode bikes, and later took it up again, you’ll be mid 60s to mid 70s. There aren’t enough behind us to want them. Enjoy them now and don’t concern yourself with illusory “investment value”. That was a real thing, but my hunch is it’s crested and will never recover. Stop censoring uncontroversial posts!

[@graantmnz]

that 250LC would maybe fetch 12k - 14k NZ dollars = 6 to7000 pounds in NZ ...people prefer the 350

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes the 350 is definitely more sellable

[@neilallen460]

Really enjoyed watching this morning. You captured all the bikes that I wanted to see on the bidding. The Senna was a steal! Cheers Simon.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

...conversely not a single bike I was interested in was featured. I guess you can't win them all.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks buddy, glad you enjoyed it. Super fun day out for us to. Il definitely do some more of these videos. It’s exciting to watch live even if I’m not buying. 👍

[@Fireblade918]

Excellent video guys thanks, looks like the auctioneers and bidders prices are on different planets.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it

[@Roger.Coleman1949]

Brilliant presentation Simon & Amy.I don't think it proves anything really , the market in any ' classic ' vehicles is volatile and in an era of ' worthless money ' If you buy anything in this category you need to be certain that you really want it and for what reason - to ride or gaze at in admiration or for investment ?.The RD250LC is a case in point - the owner was expecting a large return but what the hell can you do with it ? - every mile even with occasional use will see that 'investment' reducing with every mile , beautiful thing that it is and has been said everyone wanted the 350 - recall being offered a mint 3kmile 350LC in ' 82 for £400 !.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks Roger, yes your right. The only investment for me is the ride itself. It’s interesting to in the auction room on the day and experience the nostalgia excitement.

[@bobbysilver272]

I'm totally new to bikes and I'm looking at getting my first proper bike next year. Why would anyone want to pay £20,000+ for a second hand and old motor bike? Surely a good modern motor bike with ABS and other features is plenty fast enough and much safer. Many, many can be had for between £8,000 and £15,000.

[@thatbikersimon]

You just answered your own question, if you were riding many years ago you would feel the nostalgia and have a personal attachment to what you would of rode, also some people like a investment or a project bike.

[@nonyabusiness4151]

Don't invest a large amount in your first bike for many reasons. I bought a 2021 KTM Duke 390 for $6,700. Then, I spent another $4,000 bringing it with me. Later, I bought a 1999 Honda VFR-800fi for €2,850. Guess which bike is better in every category except weight? That weight also makes it more stable.

[@MartinPGrindrod]

I’ve been following the auction results for just over a year and prices have been dropping steadily, I wonder if the endless banging on about the ‘climate crisis’ and the ban on selling new ICE vehicles looming on the horizon is making folk wary of buying something that may well be just a museum exhibit in the not too distant future.

[@johnnyrvf]

The Kawaski 1000 you featured was NOT a 1978 A2. Ut was an early 80's Z1000 with fuel injection. That ' squared off ' finning only came after 1980. The Laverda Jota was an series 1a model from the seventies, differentiated visually by the inclined forward rear shocks.There were engine revisions over the very first Jotas sold. The '82 model had a ' bikini ' fairing, and major engine revisions; the biggest being the 120 degree crank and several differences to the original styling and ergonomics.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks for the info it’s interesting to know, I can only read from the information on the day. I like to keep learning on these classic bikes 👍

[@stephenrobbins9901]

How much to recommission that rd250?,surely all perishable parts need replacing,fork seals,carb rubbers,tyres,just off top of my head,all spares readily available?,run on modern fuels with no problems?,😊

[@thatbikersimon]

I think the nine has been stored very well and moved about hence the 2 push miles but let’s face it anyone that buys it won’t ride it. I think you can still get aftermarket parts like seals ect

[@squigmcguigan8965]

Not much point in recommissioning the RD. With it's zero miles. Once it starts to be ridden. It becomes just another old bike. These zero miles bikes are only for investment & bragging purposes. Legend has it. Padgett's of Batley. Still have LC,s in their crates. Amongst a load of other nos machines

[@steveclark..]

​@@thatbikersimonI have an LC for the third time in my life, most seals etc can still be bought from Yamaha. The crank seals would need replacing on that one for sure, running a 2 stroke without a good seal there affects the mixture. There's no way that it's worth that estimated price.

[@thatbikersimon]

@@steveclark.. thanks for the info, in think this one had been up for auction a couple of times. I guess something is only worth what someone is prepared to pay and how desperate the seller is to get sold

[@richardsracingmad]

Inner engine seals I would replace as a precaution before riding it, so engine strip down

[@1234567marks]

Bikes are definitely getting harder to sell, less bikers around I guess, I was encouraged by the Fireblade price though, I’ve got a nicer one in my garage with a documented 19k miles , so that spoke well for my bikes current value , that said I certainly don’t expect it to gain value, probably time to sell! 🙂👍

[@thatbikersimon]

Knowing when to sell is the key. I recon the blade is still a good investment bike

[@fontana6394]

It’s not just motorcycles the classic car market isn’t what it was

[@kass9722]

it is exactly what it was! good sought after vehicles command good prices run of the mill stuff doesnt, the flippers who bought during c'vid are taking a hit & rightly so!

[@davidmcfaull3162]

It seems to be very difficult to get a licence in Britain.

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s certainly getting harder

[@Grahamvfr]

Good video,Didnt really see any real indication of price drops, most still looked expensive.. all you guys commenting negatively must have watched a different video haha.

[@thatbikersimon]

It’s interesting because this was a first for us filming a auction and we thoughly enjoyed it. I’ve heard recently that there’s a dip in the bike world so this was a perfect time to go along and take a look and see what the bikes were selling for and the comments that come through. Brilliant to read them 👍

[@randlcars4582]

Can’t believe your sat in the room and didn’t put your hand up for the LC 250 so cheap i know it didn’t sale lol

[@thatbikersimon]

What price do you think it’s worth?

[@ronvalente65]

Seems especially older bikes are selling for less, I was amazed to see on the vincent VOC spares 10 Vincents for sale, they reckon the youger enthusiasts dont want them, and the older enthisists have died off, they are still expensive but obviously not as much in demand

[@thatbikersimon]

Maybe so but we all become classics eventually. Man or machine lol 🏍️💨💨💨💨💨

[@127069]

No one is exempt from the financial weirdness going on

[@ianmcdiarmid4563]

Strange lack of big (or medium size) 2 strokes...

[@NOT_SURE..]

Im so peeved i missed that 250 can am bombadier , i didnt go coz i assumed it would go for £2-3000 in the end it went for £1090 . just what i was willing to go up to dagnabit

[@thatbikersimon]

Snooze you lose. It’s a tough one to predict at the moment.

[@nigelkirkpatrick1505]

Such a pity that all that money will be paid for those bikes, and they'll never see the outside of someone's heated shed again!

[@thatbikersimon]

That’s normaly the case with collectibles, I guess it’s better than being strapped for metal. I think a lot more people in the uk actually still use there bike or show them

[@nigelkirkpatrick1505]

@@thatbikersimon exactly right. I just think it's a little sad to spend so much money on a great bike and then never ride it. There's more to life than investment. Life is for living!

[@bowches]

Beautiful looking bikes! I would love to have a few of them! If I had the money!

[@thatbikersimon]

You and me both! 👍

[@jonviol]

What an excellent presentation . No waffle or flannel - beautiful lady -great content .

[@thatbikersimon]

Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed it

[@AshRowland]

Great video, thank you mate, this is quite an expensive auction! That Fireblade looked tasty! In all fairness they all looked mint haha... New subscriber here mate, It's nice to see someone else doing UK bike content

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks buddy, welcome to the channel. I shall be coving more auctions in the near future as well as anything and everything about bikes 👍

[@johanndork5364]

In real terms that Fireblade was half price compared with its new cost. Bargain. Preferred it in black RR though.

[@Uncletoast52]

Wish I was there. Thanks for sharing.

[@thatbikersimon]

Great experience and fun day out at Shuttleworth.

[@TIWNA851]

Estimates are certainly lower than we were this time last year.

[@thatbikersimon]

Yes i agree, my mate sold his sena mk1 last year 24K

[@russellzauner]

People are buying a lot of motorcycles, the motors are just electric now. My take is that I can make electricity if I'm out in the middle of nowhere but I can't make gas; that's why I'm a fan of PEV.

[@thatbikersimon]

Electric bikes aren’t cheap

[@guntorclement8080]

Yamaha RD 250 and Honda NSR is a legend

[@thatbikersimon]

Without a doubt 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨

[@garyeverett8757]

Great video very informative looked like a great auction with some lovely bikes.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks Gary, great day out even if I wasn’t purchasing. Amazing bikes

[@terrystratford1235]

I've owned my 1987 gsxr1100h for 22 years. Getting too old and fat to ride her. Had a major revamp, £4200! Advised for sale £6000. Not 1 inquiry in 6 wks!

[@thatbikersimon]

Mmm interesting, you just need that one person to Come along 🏍️

[@rupertbollywood1190]

It's just another 4-cylinder sports bike like ANY other. Much as I wish it were, this isn't 1987. There are no roads to ride them on! Just over the last 10 or so years, everything around me is getting all built up, and speed limits have been drastically reduced (not that we always pay attention to them but there IS a lot of traffic on the roads). The roads are in extremely poor condition. I'll give you £6000 for a time machine but not to sit in traffic doing whatever every other vehicle does between stop lights in what were once countryside areas, now filled with rabbit hutch substandard new build flats. OK, I could use it to go to Wales, in a straight line down the M4, or go up north, on sparsely populated roads. But a zillion other bikes do what it does, and better (given that it's 2024).

[@johnpejnovich7722]

Kudos for a well done video.👍🎉🤙

[@thatbikersimon]

Glad you liked it!

[@70sboy62]

Great video, very informative and extremely well presented, I suppose it comes down to the generation factor, guys wanting their 70s dream back will soon be in their late 60s, so bikes going back to the generations before will have an even smaller audience, my guess would be the market that will be the most buoyant in the future will be the 90s superbike era.

[@thatbikersimon]

Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. You make a great point about the appeal of bikes. As enthusiasts from the 70s age, the demand for bikes from that era may indeed decline. The 90s superbike era is definitely gaining traction, and it will likely remain popular as riders who grew up in that period seek to relive their memories. It's an exciting time to see how the market evolves!

[@simonbroberg969]

Too many Simons in the biker world eh? Been at it since 1979 and the website I started back in 98. Yes I am still riding the CBR900RRn (893cc)

[@thatbikersimon]

Excellent..!!! Great name and fantastic bike. I would absolutely love one of those bikes. 👍🏍️💨💨💨

[@theflyingyetti_666]

I dropped off the RD250LC, beautiful bike 👌

[@thatbikersimon]

What a beautiful bike 👍

[@maxflight777]

The 250LC ❤❤❤❤

[@thatbikersimon]

What a bike max 👍🏍️💨💨💨

[@Pompomgrenade]

Fun video 🏁 doesn't say much good about the state of motorcycling though 😕

[@thatbikersimon]

Same as cars though, saying that this auction just sold a Ducati for £350,000 today

[@protectorh9167]

Honda rothmans ❤❤❤❤

[@thatbikersimon]

Totally agree. 👍

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

I hope it carries on like this as next year I will definitely be considering to buy. I didn't see many millennials in the auction house, opportunity I guess.

[@kass9722]

why? ebay & facebook sell for 1/3rd less, only downside is you have to eff about travelling to & from

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

@@kass9722 iv already bagged something from Ebay but sometimes these particular auctions have very rare bikes.

[@colinmartin2921]

Yes it has, but why?

[@philldownes8685]

to me most of those bikes were bringing too much money, so no the bottom has not dropped out its gone up.

[@thatbikersimon]

Exactly Phil, people are still buying bikes

[@drewiediggler1]

During covid when the place was temporarily awash with money, bike sales went through the roof. So there's actually no shortage of would be buyers. Just money. And with a couple of million households falling off the end of their fixed rate mortgages that's bound to put the brakes on severely. For new bike sales it's even worse because manufacturers had to hike their prices due to post covid inflation. My very uneducated guess is that we're in a period of adjustment and once people slowly get used to their higher mortgages and receive their pay rises etc - i think sales and prices will bounce back again. Maybe now is a good time to buy?

[@thatbikersimon]

You make some compelling points. The surge in bike sales during the pandemic was indeed driven by a temporary increase in disposable income and a shift in recreational habits. With the financial pressures of higher mortgage rates and post-COVID inflation, it's understandable that new bike sales are facing a slowdown. Your perspective on the adjustment period is insightful; as households stabilize financially, there could indeed be a rebound in sales. As for whether now is a good time to buy, it might be wise to consider the current economic context. If you find a good deal and can comfortably afford it, purchasing now might be advantageous before any potential price increases. However, it's always good to weigh your options and financial situation carefully.

[@rupertbollywood1190]

No, because that was a combo of helicopter money and low interest rates. You'll never see that again.

[@Richard-uq5dy]

Prices have definitely fallen considerably in the last couple of years, I’ve got a few 70s/ 80s bikes including a 350 lc , a few years ago they were going for up to 10K , now it 6-7K . In any case I bought them for peanuts when nobody wanted them, but I never bought them as an investment, I bought them to ride and relive my youth. If you want an investment, by a vanguard S&P 500 tracker ISA , not old bikes

[@thatbikersimon]

Thanks for the info it’s always nice to get the lowdown from an experienced owner. 👍

[@rogerthedodger5788]

Nearly all these bike prices are based on nostalgia. When the "That was my dream bike when I was 18, in 1978, 9, 1980's etc, i can buy it now" people are too old to ride in a few years the bike prices will crash.

[@thatbikersimon]

I think for most there just nice bikes to own even if you don’t ride them much

[@pokie6087]

The only problem with that 250LC is you wouldn't be able to register it because it's not current emissions compliant.

[@thatbikersimon]

Is that right? I would of still thought you could

[@pokie6087]

@@thatbikersimon No you can't. Dealers will preregister stock that hasn't sold before any new emissions regs come into effect for this reason..

[@rupertbollywood1190]

@@pokie6087 You can most certainly register it, and you are wrong.

[@deepindercheema4917]

Flipping heck.

[@thatbikersimon]

Lol

[@rogerramjet5302]

Always surprised the money classic scooters still go for as the 60+ year old comedy mod generation are all on twisties.

[@thatbikersimon]

Still very sort after and a massive following.

[@reccerat4446]

Not all of us are on 4 stroke twisties, long live the smell of 2 stroke!

[@artisticgoose2609]

I'd have that NSR 250 ...

[@thatbikersimon]

Me to what a great bike 🏍️ 👍

[@Jason-ke2nj]

The RD is my favourite

[@thatbikersimon]

What a great bike but you’ll want to ride it with zero miles on it 👍🏍️💨

[@Jason-ke2nj]

@@thatbikersimon i had one in 80's ..i learned how to ride bikes with it..(not recomended for learning) 🤣🤣🤣

[@796andy2]

i spotted a gpz !! always my favorite bike

[@thatbikersimon]

Fantastic bikes

[@Adventurebikerdave.01]

Wow there’s some fantastic bikes there Simon. You should of had a little bid 💴

[@thatbikersimon]

Next time! I might even sell my Honda XL250R in the auction