Crazy Wildcard Endings, Sideline Conspiracies & The Waffle House Debate | New Heights | Ep 23

On the twenty-third episode of New Heights, Jason and Travis respond to some of your reactions to our very special Gronk episode and try to figure out who to bring on next, we go through some of the absolutely insane fan art submissions that all involved shaving the big yeti, and we answer the not dumb question, “Could the average person rush for 1 yard in the NFL?”
We also recap all the incredible games from Super Wildcard Weekend including the Jaguars historic comeback over the Chargers, the Ravens fumbling it away at the goal line, Tom Brady possibly playing his last snap in Tampa, and we go deep on why Mike McDaniel’s and the Dolphins play calling went up in smoke.
There’s also some non-playoff NFL news to talk about with Aaron Donald possibly announcing his retirement via his Twitter bio, Kliff Kingsbury booking a one-way ticket to Thailand, and someone at the Athletic finally doing the official math on the QB sneak.
Finally, we wrap with a look ahead to the Divisional round of the playoffs with the Eagles playing the Giants for the third time this season, the Chiefs at home against the Jags, but more importantly, we go way off script with a discussion about Waffle House and where it ranks in the world of breakfast chain restaurants.
Feel like every good sports podcast eventually lands on a Waffle House discussion so we let this one run long for you guys. Make sure you hit us in the comments below with how you think the guys rankings hold up.
As always, watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce every Wednesday during the NFL season & check us out on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - Your reactions Gronk episode
13:30 - insane big yeti fan
17:20 - “Could the average person rush for 1 yard?”
28:45 - Jaguars comeback over Chargers
39:00 - Ravens fumbling it away
49:11 - Where does Brady go next?
54:20 - Did Mike McDaniel’s vape?
01:00:30 - Aaron Donald possibly retired via Twitter bio
01:02:50 - Kliff Kingsbury’s one-way ticket to Thailand
01:08:10 - Official QB sneak Math
01:12:40 - Eagles/Giants Preview
01:17:41 - Chiefs/Jags Preview
01:20:45 - Waffle House Debate
01:29:11 - Stamp of the Week
#nfl #newheights #chiefs #eagles

[@maddening15]

I want Andy Reid as next guest. Drafted both of you. That'd be amazing

[@teter9900]

I bet they would have to get some serious team clearances for that or at least has to be in the offseason

[@deezapenuts4498]

Playoffs. Might be hard

[@rachealwood7840]

I hope at the end of the season!

[@wadeboggs5163]

Duggie P. would be great too. After next weekend it might be a few months before he answers any calls from Travis though

[@brandcack4117]

So true I bet they’d do it too, that would be quality content

[@kossler]

Tom Brady definitely knows who you are Jason. He seems like the kind of guy to keep a list of every person who has beaten him in a superbowl as reminder.

[@theinfernoburns]

That's such a significant honor that really makes me proud. At the end of the day we can say we beat the greatest QB of all time at his peak and he personally holds that against every single player of that team who beat him, man I love Philadelphia.

[@faveology]

Heck, Brady probably watched film of the Eagles in the past and saw how good Kelce was and probably said 'How can I get him on my team?' Imagine Brady invited him out to take snaps. Like he tried with Tony G and playing catch😂

[@teddypabian7858]

jason-“do we even know what we are” travis-“aamerricaan?“ 😂

[@iloveoldpeople29]

🤣🤣

[@tj6930]

😂😂❤

[@uzi978]

I think it's funny how Jason really went out of his way to basically say "Gronk is smarter than I thought he would be" 😂😂

[@Betty-Boop809]

AND then he appeared on the FOX analyst show on Sunday 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@chiefmac88]

This podcast is gonna be off the charts if the Chiefs and Eagles actually meet in the Super Bowl

[@MarxAviano]

That was the plan!

[@natecox5191]

Yeah I already started it check my comment last two podcast!!!

[@underachiever8532]

Already off the Charts

[@joycestewart7227]

That’s be my dream! And esp if the Chiefs Win because we all know what Chiefs did to eagles 200 years ago! But either way MR and MRS Kelce win!!

[@paramidea6812]

travis and jasons podcast the week before the superbowl against eachother jason: so.... travis: so.........

[@rocketwolves4509]

My favorite parts of these eps are the childhood stories. Get Mama and Papa Kelce on the show!!!

[@ShedzGuy]

Yes, we want Mama and Papa Kelce!

[@camerongeorge9591]

Great idea!

[@Noelleyandfifi]

Yes but give them each their own episode.

[@deshunwilks1125]

Right‼️ It'll be perfect for EAGLES vs CHIEFS SUPER BOWL episode!! 🦅🦅🦅

[@rachealwood7840]

All the Kelce women

[@joeyking6309]

Doug P: “offense get your heads out of your asses!” Jason: “and I’m like, that’s a good point” I’m cracking up😂

[@thevoiceofreason3653]

Jason just described Popeyes perfect "I want the guy serving me the food mad I came there for food" 😂

[@kavawonmusic8074]

Marshawn Lynch would be an amazing guest! I think he'd gel w/ the New Heights convo vibe/style

[@excalfn]

this ideas amazing

[@Hunnisloot]

Marshawn and TK would be comedy

[@MrThetit]

I literally was just about to post that

[@hasimpekkoc]

they should come with explicit content viewer discretion advised sign for that show man. Such dope guest.

[@MrRichie12321]

I second this

[@willroberts3185]

The Gronk episode was so good. You both were able to bring out some really interesting thoughts from him and show us all a different side of him. Great job!

[@troycollins7446]

Marshawn Lynch would be an amazing future guest, also, we don't have them anymore here, but the Sauce Gardner wings were pretty good, kind of a hot sauce/bbq combo...love the content, fellas 😎✌️⚜️🏈

[@aliciamauro6390]

This show must not end. Every week it gets better and better! It is so refreshing hearing about football in this way! Killing it!!

[@faveology]

It would be fine if they take a month or two break. Maybe start backup as the draft gets closer. Bring on some upcoming potential top picks, for example. Talk about all the offseason drama

[@sushi3444]

The Waffle House talk about the “diner” or “fast food” has got to be one of my favourite debates on the show 😂

[@APBancha]

Mcdaniels is clearly a man of the people. Vape gate is the best scandal we could of ever had.

[@coreyperdue1966]

Mcdaniel**** there is a difference

[@excalfn]

@@coreyperdue1966 ones a moron the others a occasional moron

[@ii_melton_ii29]

​@@coreyperdue1966agreed. Coming from a raider fan there is a BIG difference lmao 🏴‍☠️

[@coreyperdue1966]

@@ii_melton_ii29 coming from a patriots fan there are sooooo many differences. your welcome for jacoby meyers de-evolution btw

[@RonniePTexan]

McDaniel* If you want to be a spelling Hall Monitor, please do it right.

[@Betty-Boop809]

I think Chris Long would make a great guest, maybe bring Kyle along.

[@faveology]

Bring Lawrence Taylor on.

[@linshannon4480]

I'd love to see you interview JJ Watt. Not only did he have an inspiring career, he''s also a great humanitarian. I remember him rescuing people from their homes after one disaster. It was when I first paid attention to his career. Also, congratulations to you both for pro bowling this year.

[@MovilleHawkeye]

George Kittle would make for a great episode!

[@danieltruax7005]

Yessirreebob!

[@nataliemanis203]

Please please please someone make this happen

[@XxYellowJacketxX]

Gotta get Shannon Sharpe and Tony Gonzalez

[@sapasui]

That weed story had me falling off my forklift. Funny and entertaining as always. Love from New Zealand.

[@notangel8328]

36:19 “I threw a towel at the ref” That shit killed me lmao; i love this podcast lol

[@faveology]

Broo, he used to get so damn mad at the refs 😂😂. I remember watching some games like 'Dude, just chill out. Football is a 60 minute game.' Nope. He'd be jawing at them like 'what are you going to do, kick me out?' 😂😂

[@dax_megathor479]

“he’d say ‘we gotta get our heads out of our asses!’ and i was like… that’s a good point” 😂

[@BenHaskellFF]

Love the part where Trav tries to call out Jason as a Faux-Avalanche fan and Jason hits him with the knowledge 😂

[@AEXiTOnE]

Love that Travis is repping the NVP! The most distinguished NFL award.

[@jeffschirk3654]

Let’s roll to the Kelce bowl

[@JNB0723]

You mean the Kelice Bowl... lol. 🦅

[@rachealwood7840]

#Kelcebowl

[@loish1914]

These guys are naturals. It's entertaining and I love how they can touch on a football topic and expand to a long discussion from that and it's not just football anymore. So effortless and really nice to see how brothers can be together. I'm sure they are loving the way they can bond over this endeavor.

[@christinasampson9531]

Trav throwing the towel at the ref was classic😂

[@lokstatre2738]

Hold up am I tripping or did the Kelce bros just bless us with 2 episodes for 1 week😭..the gronk episode was a great one like always (Jason's voice) and I know this finna be a great one also keep it up fellas🙏🏾 #NewNewwwss

[@lokstatre2738]

@johatsu232 that's dope and hope it keeps up even if and when they meet in the super bowl fr

[@kennethvalera9384]

What I really "LOVE" about this podcast is the chemistry between 2 brothers which keeps giving us a rare glimpse into a reality that can "NOT" be recreated. The Kelce brothers are a prime example for why brotherhood is soooo important !!! Blessings always !!!

[@ashleyjenkins7697]

You two are rockstars! Love your personalities. That's what makes people keep coming back.

[@ang19027]

Darius Slay is always entertaining, would love to hear you guys have a conversation with him.

[@brandonriggsbee3367]

Lets keep it rolling with the tight end interviews. Go get Zach and Julie Ertz! Would love to have them both on the show. They would totally do it.

[@davesmith3640]

Never stop! Absolutely love you both and the energy between u2! Magic

[@kmj106]

Travis's face when Jason threw down the Cracker Barrel slander. Yes! They do a damn good breakfast.

[@brasick90]

I swear these just getting better and Better. Feels like your hanging with the boys, but I’m actually getting strange looks while I’m laughing out loud on the train to and from work 😂

[@STiROCKET06]

I love that Travis was a Flyers fan as kid. Respect! lol

[@calebosborne1853]

I don't know if you guys see these comments but thank you for the laughs. My dad passed away on Christmas eve, happy bday to me #christmasbaby, and he absolutely adored you guys and loved watching you two. Brings comfort laughing as i know he did ♥️♥️ keep killin it yall. Love from a bengals fan lll

[@peartist2]

Hey, condolences about your Dad from a member of Chiefs Kingdom. Hang in there

[@princeoftech7473]

As a member of Ravens Flock, I am sorry for your loss. Best wishes to you and your kin man 🙏

[@seba-re2fq]

Love the content and love to see that athletes get to have a their own space to speak about their lives. Many people forget that these are just normal dudes living their lives! Love y’all!

[@rj2344]

When your both in the Super Bowl. We expect a 10 min video at least. Love y’all great job

[@AntonioMedina-dz5gu]

This Podcast is so good because of the love between the 2, I love when they say something funny seeing the others face light up, it's just good wholesome fun between brothers. They are also so humble and show so much love to their peers even though they are such great players. If they were to see this comment I would like to ask them, what do they feel seeing how great their brother is for the game, there is no doubt they will both be first ballot hall of famers, can they believe its their brother they are watching. Would love to hear their perspective on this. Love the humility though will be a huge fan for life with everything they do.

[@adamlittle5576]

I just wanted to say hi from Australia. I'm the biggest Kansas city supporter in Australia. I never miss a game. Travis, you're amazing to watch and hands down my favourite player in the whole NFL. Jason, you come a close second. I just want to say I love your podcast you guy's are some funny to listen to. Good luck in the play off's. I will be cheering for both of you guys. Keep being awesome.

[@kaceycruz3870]

What channel do they show nfl in Australia? I’ve got foxtel

[@quantumxfluxmd6821]

FRICKIN LOVE THESE GUYS. CONGRATS ON THE PLAYOFF WINS BOYS

[@joyceguiniven4587]

I really appreciate , enjoy your show. Also I like your analysis of all of the Games, sense of humor is great 👍 Thanks, Joyce Guiniven

[@jaimeshell1994]

Now we're gonna need a video of Ed and Momma Kelce saying "New Knees", but they gotta say it how Travis and Jason say "New News". 😂😂😂

[@aidanlandis6366]

The Big Yeti segment got me dying 😂 Love the podcast

[@lmoorekc]

Love this podcast. You guys are so genuine. Keep on keeping it real.

[@msagapolu0820]

“I don’t think that’s the right nipples”😂😂😂 I look forward to this show every week! Keep it coming!!!

[@treyspaulding46]

This show is SLAPPIN! To use the Big Yetis verbage lol Much love Jason and Travis Kelce. Mad respect for you both imma big fan. That Gronk episode was top 3 with Patrick & Jalen in my opinion those three episodes was Awesome a little bit more than normal because all 23 episodes have been really good fellas so thank you guys. And from all my family and friends from Logan Wv Good luck to you both this week. Stay Safe and healthy but most importantly BALL OUT! #NewHeights #Chiefs #Eagles #NFL

[@Moosewoodworks]

Hurricane WV over here, those episodes are my favorite as well👋

[@treyspaulding46]

@@Moosewoodworks👍

[@NickVacca1]

Next guest(s): The Manning brothers! Need an episode with the most entertaining duo of brothers in sports 😎

[@michaeldonovan9600]

A Gronk interview show and Normal Wednesday episode. You guys are killing it!!

[@michaelmcdonald1620]

I lost it when Jason said "they shoulda slimed you.. you shoulda got slimed" 🤣🤣

[@jeffperez9470]

Would love to see Jordan Mailata and Landon Dickerson on this

[@rajinkajun-2576]

I wish I got a nickel everytime Travis says “baby” or “dawg”. I could buy all of their subscribers Super Bowl tickets. 😂

[@barbara82589]

One thousand percent.

[@dannyquilter8366]

Aw'rite now

[@alexanderjohansson6928]

Damn love this vid/podcast keep it going guys!

[@richardcampbell9892]

Love how Jason reads the messages with Laugh out loud spoken as Loll. Whether on purpose or not just classic. Long brothers is a great show comparing growing up together would also set up a recipricol appearnce on Green light.

[@joshsonsiadek9951]

Omg😂 “I want to go to the place that is mad that I even came into the store to get food to begin with.” I thought I was the only person that felt this way

[@KomAxToasT]

Jason Kelce you beast! played like a animal against that NY d-line. and you Travis never fail to show why you r the greatest TE !!! #NewHeights

[@SFI24]

Best podcast right now. Thanks for another episode fellas. Good luck in the playoffs.

[@Nqwilliams]

1:04:07 Travis immediately responding “you can finesse that” with the most incredulous look was fucking hilarious for me

[@chrismaddieourfil-amjourne3720]

Cliff won’t be back anytime soon. “Jungle Fever” is legit! Single millionaire bouncing around Phuket, Bangkok…watch out for the ladyboys Cliff!!!

[@kristentitus4946]

Travis saying "American" 🤷🏼‍♀️ was so good LOL. Do a 23 and me! 😉

[@andrearomero3274]

“Never know when I’m ganna return”🤘🏽 love the traveling spirit Trav!

[@user-uf9bq9rd6p]

Omg when he said "it has no breakfast materials" I lost it......HILARIOUS MAN!!!

[@justinstokes9498]

"I picked up a fumble and thought I was going to stiff arm a CB and he hit me before I could extend my arm" 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@joesorenson9927]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I love this show it makes me feel like I’m sitting around with the guys telling stories and having fun that’s what makes this show so good it gives the fans insight on what the Kelce bros are like in real life. I feel like we could go play golf togather after the show lol

[@custosdesign1053]

Thanks Jason! Now I gotta clean my floor. I just spit out an entire mouthful of coffee laughing when & how you said about IHOP “that’s a loose term for a restaurant.” That look on your face, OMFG feckin priceless!!! Shit like that is why people love this podcast so much! How lucky I am to be from Philly! Love you dude! … oh sorry Trav or should I say Big Yeti😊 You’re pretty funny too👍

[@GoDawgz90]

Greatest podcast ever. Listen to you guys all the time.

[@ChefboiRed]

I need two merch ideas made from y’all, Ed Kelce’s “new knees” and Travis face and hand when he said “pure” during the nerdwallet promotion 😂😂💯

[@Johnysimus]

I laughed so hard, when Travis said Ed has "new knees" in the same way he says "new news" normally ... had to go look for a comment mentioning it! :)

[@snortweed]

tom brady and his insight from 20+ years in the league would be an INSANE episode.

[@esdietsch]

impossible to dislike these guys. i don't even like/follow football, but totally charmed by their personalities and sibling dynamic.

[@joshpalmer987]

I thought the towel throw was hilarious, absolutely hilarious, and well-timed I might add!

[@mattstakeontheancients7594]

I’m a Cowboys fan but congrats to Jason and Sauce for being all-pros.

[@pabloestaban761]

Travis also i believe

[@brianbradley6220]

Time to bring moms or pops in for some insight into the Kelce boys childhood….. 😂

[@turkeysandwich421]

I grew up a massive Red wings fan so it's funny that you guys are both avalanche fan there was some crazy ass rivalry games between our teams Total bench clearing fights even the goalies that shit was crazy I'll never forget that a wild time in hockey

[@zacharyhoude9980]

Didn’t know you guys knew hockey like that!, respect from quebec🔥🙏🏻

[@johnnychiinggas]

Andy Reid would definitely be a great interview! Sure theres great stories considering he drafted and coached both of you!!…… George Kittle seems like another good option

[@geoffw24]

Are you guys gonna continue this epic show after the season?

[@ericaburner7917]

Jason is a tremendous story teller. The monkey story here and the concussion story from college were both great and well told.

[@jacksonjohnson854]

Hoping to see these gentlemen play each other in the Super Bowl! Great episode

[@northernboy7272]

Would love to hear Foles talking about his run in the Superbowl

[@cookieman]

Travis’ ejection was absolutely epic

[@deborahflores3427]

Chief fan here in Illinois you guys are great only podcast I hear great job guys

[@joetaylor7398]

Best Podcast ever. Love these guys.

[@heatherc2059]

Love the KZbin with Henry winkler and Travis and Mahomes. Now the video that can top that would include Jason with Travis!!

[@beaulah_califa9867]

I don't understand. You mean you want Henry Winkler to be the guest?

[@heatherc2059]

No, it was just a compliment to Travis but I mentioned Jason because i enjoy their podcast and assume winkler would be a humorous sideshow.

[@eddiecardwell]

Travis has one of the best 1000 yard stares. lol.

[@andrearomero3274]

Lmao “that’s within the standard deviation” love that ❤🤓

[@brandongoldberg4639]

Literally the best podcast in sports! I look forward to it every week. GO BIRDS

[@dasteezyust4717]

The average height of a human man is 5' 9" but it used to be 5'8"..... literally NEW HEIGHTS BABY. Go Birds 🦅

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

It used to be a helluva lot less than 197#. That blew my mind. I thought I was fat. Apparently I’m average. That is not good.

[@Mr.Potato420]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 yeah i could def make a 1 yard run. i might not beable to get back up after getting hit but id make at least a yard but I'm also 5'11 and 220lbs so

[@ilovemydad1416]

@@Mr.Potato420 but can u run? Is you FAST enough to hit the hole? Or is you getting smoked behind the line? Me myself I know I can just use my weight 256# 6'1 to push and fall a yard, but not FAST ENOUGH to hit the hole

[@Mr.Potato420]

@@ilovemydad1416 I used to play DE and would get a like 2 sacks a game as a freshman in hs but i got knocked out and woke up in the hospital so i stopped lol

[@phillyfan3074]

Are you guys gonna do this all year or just during the season? I’m sure the plan wasn’t all year but the show has really grown

[@iGRyner]

Andy Ried, Nick Siriani, Dougie P should be the 3 coaches that yall should bring on

[@b89atchison]

I would absolutely love to see videos of these two as kids/teens. They are hilarious!

[@stacieremigio5046]

Had a great TE for a guest now let’s have a great center with Jason on the podcast.😍😍😍

[@faveology]

Bring on Jeff Saturday

[@jamesb5764]

Doug Peterson would be a great interview, imo.

[@MayorBrownn]

Yes

[@dasteezyust4717]

Love Dougie P

[@ElenasDad]

They'll have to interview him after he wins the super bowl

[@CDKDOWNSOUTH]

Love the show!

[@dannyjohn5175]

I love ending my days with you bros

[@kathymullanney4501]

Sauce is one smart dude definitely needs to come on the show

[@MCPrimetime]

Can you imagine those episodes prior to a Kelce vs Kelce superbowl. AKA the Andy Reid bowl.

[@nessahelu]

Not the naming 10 O-linemen😂😂 good one.

[@justinsunderland5749]

gday boys from australia love the show

[@traceygoldblatt9398]

Gosh, I bet your parents are so proud of you. Two boys in professional football! You guys get along so well, who is the one that got in trouble a lot when you were boys?

[@dylanhaile6984]

Travis without a doubt.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@dylanhaile6984 No question🤣

[@jammons70]

As a Cowboys fan and former Center Jason is definitely my favorite Eagle of all time. Reggie White a close second. Keep being awesome!

[@richeygahagen]

I just love Jason sounds out 'lol' 😄

[@marajohnson6018]

jason knowing about the avs makes me so happy ❤

[@cameronjones2968]

Pros vs. Joes was the average person going against different sport pros. They need to bring that back!

[@scruffd0g193]

Yeah no way can the average person run for 1 yard against a NFL Defense. They would get killed