Creality Sonic Pad installation on the Ender 3 s1 and in depth thoughts

[@professorquack]

Great real installation experience video without many edits to show the real steps and small glitches along the way

[@aim6mac]

thank you,

[@baloghdave123]

Great video, thanks! I just got mine today, and starting to tinker with it. I hope you'll upload more content regarding to the sonic pad! :)

[@aim6mac]

yes as it's a new product, i'm still testing the stability of it, i'm full on printing with it, so u will get updates for sure!

[@john_jacob_jingleheimerschmidt]

Thought about ordering one last week, went on youtube to watch reviews and when I went to make my purchase they were sold out! Also, thanks for documenting your issues with the sprite water cooling kit, saved me the headache of buying and installing it only for it to fail.

[@aim6mac]

if you are new to Klipper and don't know how to install it , then the sonic pad is great, It works for now , but i'll have to print longer with it, it is chunky which i dont like.

[@iamdmc]

i decided against water cooling for this reason noctua fans are quiet enough for me

[@aim6mac]

@@iamdmc i'm here to test this stuff for you guys so that u can see wether u want to buy it or not :)

[@iamdmc]

@@aim6mac it's really appreciated! Hi from the UK :)

[@nikolaydudinov9029]

A new firmware Sonik Pad has been released for, the accelerometer is now transferred to the Hot bed after a pause

[@aim6mac]

yes , thanks for lettings me known

[@klein333333]

Where did you get the brackets for the heat dissipation kit? I've been looking for nice ones and can't find anything and yours look great?

[@aim6mac]

you really need to be clearer then that :)

[@huntersanders6856]

So I’m using the ender 3 pro with sprite extruder and cr touch and I cannot get it figured out it runs into the bed and it’s not centered I’m looking for help please

[@rhhassell]

Thank you for the tip, to disconnect the screen it worked Immediately!

[@oxainn]

I have an Ender 3 S1 and I haven't gotten it to work. First there were temperature alarms, which I got rid of when I loosened the screw of the sensor. After that, the connection always broke in the middle of printing, which still happens a little less often when I changed webui USB 1 -> 3. Now it starts every print in the air, despite countless probe and mesh level calibrations. Really frustrated with the whole device. I expected it to work with the same 100% certainty as before, but much easier than without the pad. Is there a solution to the problems with Ender 3 S1 or should I return the device?

[@aim6mac]

hi there are you sure u flashed your printer with the right Klipper FW ? double check if your motherboard is the right one in the list.

[@Keyan9]

hey man, just discovered your channel. I have an Ender 3 S1 Pro and I bought the water cooling kit. Can you please share what little baby radiator you have there hooked up to the one water kit? I am worried about the fluid getting too hot after super long prints.

[@Keyan9]

I'm also really interested in the water hose clips you printed!!

[@aim6mac]

Hi there, i'll share the amazon links in the description :)

[@aim6mac]

after checking , i did share all the links on this video already kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHnOlpapja1_otk

[@Tropical_Bread]

Hello, some help would be greatly appreciated. I seem to be in no way able to make my sonic pad recognize and connect to my Ender 3 s1 Pro. I'm 99% sure I got the 401-Board variant, but I also tried the other one during the flashing process (indeed the old screen freezes as it should only when I try to flash the 401-Firmware). I also rolled back to the original firmware between tests. As I said the original screen is frozen, so the Firmware should have flashed correctly. I also tried unplugging the original display as you said in the video, but nothing changes. I tried a lot of times through the USB-1 Port on top left side, tried with every other port aswell with not success. Every time I reach the "Please connect the printer to the screen terminal USB1 port" I turn on the printer, click next (tried also in the other order) and after a couple of minutes I receive the infamous "Printer is not ready. The host is trying to connect... " message. This thing is driving me mad since I honestly don't want to send it back, but just make it work. Do you know what I could do to resolve this problem??? Thanks in advance.

[@aim6mac]

Hi, a several stuff could be happening, try a different usb cable, and make sure u are using the correct usb ports on the sonic pad aswell, and to flash the firmware, make sure there is nothing on the sd card other then the firmware . U can also try using a 4gb SD card. Let me know how it goes.

[@Tropical_Bread]

@@aim6mac In the end the micro usb to usb-c adapter was broken out of the box and I managed to make it work with a straight usb c cable I had laying around... Lost about 4/5 hours for this xD Going through input shaping now! Thanks nontheless.

[@aim6mac]

@@Tropical_Bread Glad it worked out for you 👌

[@jamesarundel9899]

there are two choices for S1, F401and F103 how can i tell which one I need? I can understand the rest of the installation but cant find anything on the main board.

[@aim6mac]

it's written on the chip of the motherboard, so i'm afraid u will have to take the back cover off

[@jamesarundel9899]

Got it. Look forward to more of your videos. Thanks!

[@aim6mac]

@@jamesarundel9899 awesome!

[@jamesharris9894]

or can just look at current firmware on printer in info will say 1.0 something and other be f401 no need open case

[@jahjahneverfail1095]

@@jamesharris9894 my firmware says 2.0.8 15F4. Which s1 pro do I have? I'm so confused

[@samwallwork8416]

Hi I have my sonic pad configured just without sounding like a noob is your ip adress your pad working when you type in the browser ? Mine says it carnt be found :(

[@aim6mac]

yes all i have to do is type in the ip adress and it connect to the sonic pad, yours doesn't?

[@cdaitch]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I've only been printing about 2 months. I installed the Sonic Pad on my Ender 3 S1 Pro today, had a bit of trouble with the leveling (they have changed the process with the newest firmware, and it was causing my springs to be way too tight), after finishing installation and printing a test print it did print it about 2x as fast as usual but the quality suffered. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed and discouraged, I did flash it back to standard firmware and am trying to decide if it's worth keeping for me. Would you say I could print with it at my lower comfortable settings for now while I try to learn more about klipper so I can improve my quality to match faster speeds? I don't care so much about speed, I was hoping the Sonic Pad would give me better quality as well but I think this might have a very large learning curve over just learning different settings in Cura as I've been doing.

[@aim6mac]

Hi there, sorry to hear about your bad experience with the sonic pad, to be honest, at the initial setup of the sonic pad i do not use the 'knob' leveling procedure as it is not relieable in my opinion, i skip that and level only th z height. Sonic pad could get rid of the ringing issue on some prints but dont expect it to do miracles for the print quality, it's mostly used to KEEP the quality the original firmware has but at higher speeds

[@djipreview]

Sensor for the bed or head?

[@abdulbakimetin6600]

İ find your videos very usefull and love your humor

[@johnmcdonald3231]

Did you try on your E3v2? I also upgraded to the Sprite Pro hot end and was wondering how it would handle the probe being on a different location then stock and run at higher temperatures

[@aim6mac]

no i haven't tried it with the sonic pad yet...

[@johnmcdonald3231]

@@aim6mac if you do please post it. I really enjoy your easy to follow videos. I used yours to begin with to set up my spite with Professional firmware

[@aim6mac]

@@johnmcdonald3231 glad to hear that, i have another project comming, I have a spare stock e3v2 which i'm going to turn into a sprite and sonicpad

[@neilbartlett3018]

Can you use the beagle camera with the Sonic Pad?

[@aim6mac]

Hi there Neil, I dont own a beagle camera, but if that camera can work with windows standard drivers then the chances are great for it to work with the sonic pad. If u need to install 'dedicated' drivers for the beagle camera to work in a windows envoirement then it might not work with the sonic pad, but i might be wrong.

[@Sysshad]

isnt watercooling the hotend a bad idea? it will add more weight to move and also more vibrations?

[@aim6mac]

it kinda is give and take really... It makes the printer silent, also looks good (imo) , less clogs, but yes it does add weight to the hotend but if you use klipper and do input shaping u can get rid of the extra vibration problem.

[@Daban980]

so for the resonance test, i see you have other printers on the same table, doesnt that interfere with the resonance test when each printer working!?! or you have to turn them off and do the test!?

[@aim6mac]

Very good question, if they are both working it will most likely interfere with eachothers input shaper however, when u have two or more printers on the same table that always happens with or without input shaper.

[@jaceedwards937]

Hey aim I recently started having an issue with my sonic pad I’m continually getting the key error KEY_298 MCU LOST COMMUNICATION I have tried and tried and tried to figure it out myself contacted creality which didn’t even answer the phone as they don’t have any English speaking operators every time I have called and even explored the dark Anals of Klipper’s discord which they only told me to return the product and download their software with an extremely lengthy coding process instead. My back is up against the wall I really hope you can help me I’d be forever grateful. Oh to clarify the issue is during prints my printer and the sonic pad COMPLETELY shutdown making it to where I have to fully reset everything and the nozzle digging into the print so deep it literally picks it up from off the bed when homing….. I’m pretty upset after spending so much for this thing to upgrade my Ender S1 pro to not even be able to have customer support on the product. Very disappointed and the worst part is I bought 3 more for my other 3 printers before this issue came up and nobody I have found has resolved this issue yet as I was SCOURING Reddit last night to no avail.

[@jaceedwards937]

I have my Klippy logs but I’m not a coder I’m an engineer for gods sake I have no idea Wth I’m even looking at honestly like I get a little bit of it but trying to diagnose what’s actually making it malfunctions beats me.

[@aim6mac]

please try using another USB cable

[@CraigDaters1]

Have you tried setting up the Sonic Pad on a E3 V2 with the Sprite Extruder with CR Touch? Upon set up, I chose the E3 V2 ABL for the 4.2.7 board and after setting my z-offset, then adjusting the bed nuts for manual leveling, it proceeds to go to the 5x5 auto leveling and the first row is offset to far forward and to the right, so the probe has no surface to communicate back to the firmware that it encountered a bed. My nozzle crashed into the bed. I also don't know where to set the e-steps or the probe offsets. Is this do-able before setting up the sonic pad? It is all very confusing. I am coming from mrIscoc professional firmware...Klipper is very new to me.

[@aim6mac]

hi there, I know what the issue is.. officially Creality doesn't support the Cr Touch along with the sprite extruder pro kit. So in order to make this work u need to manually input the X and the Y axis min / max values. Otherwise it wont be able to probe normally.

[@alexdahms5182]

@@aim6mac I plan to add sort of the same set up to my ender 3 v2 neo with sprite pro extruder and cr touch. I might even add dual z motors and filmaent runout. With all these upgrades I'm unsure that things will work properly. Changing your x and y min and max values may solve leveling issues but does this interface have e-step settings since I will be changing from bowden to direct extrusion.

[@aim6mac]

@@alexdahms5182 yes the e steps can be changed in the configuration file

[@ninjaofslo]

So they added the bed vibration stop point to a new firmware update

[@TheGhinish]

Mine is still saying klippy hasn’t connected I can’t get it to work

[@aim6mac]

try changing your usb cable, if that doesn't help change the usb adaptor that it comes with (tiny adaptor)

[@tonka8080]

Uhh are those watercooled ender 3 s1??

[@aim6mac]

sure

[@adrianfrach2339]

Great video! Could you please share your start and end code for the slicer using the sonic pad?

[@aim6mac]

hi there, i'm just using the standard Gcode but there are ppl on the discord channel that use modified start gcodes. come and have a look on my discord channel :) discord.gg/2Bsxvzrr

[@Chuckthunder1]

@aim6mac how do i make it online

[@aim6mac]

hi there, can u be more specific?

[@Chuckthunder1]

Nothing

[@gruposinaidallas]

How do you mount the accelerometer to the hot bed?

[@aim6mac]

u can use clips, or strong double sided tape

[@JDHitchman]

Unfortunately you skipped over what you did to get the printet to be recognized. That is the point I have not been able to get past.

[@aim6mac]

if you listen carefully i do say what i've done :) if you still can't figure it out , you are free to join my discord channel where i can provide you some help.

[@iamdmc]

great very indepth video! Could you do a guide video on how to do the input shaping on the Y-axis bed using the computer? Please let us know if creality gets back to you about this issue. Don't really want to buy the sonic pad with this kind of glaring fault also any way of adding a generic webcam to the klipper screen which is viewable through the ip interface? if so does it allow timelapses like octolapse?

[@aim6mac]

sure i can do a video on how to do the input shaping through your pc.. stay tuned! It's not easy to contact creality as they dont really speak English well, i will try it tonight ... , i haven't tried to put a webcam on my sonic pad, but i'm sure it works fine and the timelapse it can do should be better then octolapse.

[@adamrosser4868]

@@aim6mac Question: are you sure it is a bug that the Y-axis resonance test happens with the accelerometer on the print head. To me it is logical that the resonance be measured at the point of printing. Why should we care what the resonance is at the corner of the bed -- surely it still gets the relevant information to measure it at the print head? Seems unlikely that Creality just forgot this entirely when they went so far as to provide printable mounts for the accelerometer. Have you seen or heard anything else about this?

[@aim6mac]

@@adamrosser4868 Hello Adam, thats a good question ... but i've had contact with Creality support and they immediatly suggested to start trying different Firmwares of the Sonic pad to see if the 'problem' is resolved. So they did actually see it as a problem, but so far no luck.

[@adamrosser4868]

@@aim6mac Thanks for the feedback. I will keep an eye out for the answer.

[@aim6mac]

@@adamrosser4868 there is a new video out of mine kzbin.info/www/bejne/npzXlpqdmpKmfZI which solves the problem of input shaper

[@MooreAnalytical]

For your resonance test why would you be concerned about moving the sensor to the bed? You should only be concerned with how moving the bed in x and y directions causes movement in the print head itself this that is where the accelerometer should be located. Moving the sensor to the print bed provides no useful information about how print bed movement affects the x or y deviation of the print head.

[@aim6mac]

Hi there, because thats how it's done , before typing such a comment please do some research yourself about input shaper. Documentation can be found here www.klipper3d.org/Resonance_Compensation.html

[@jclosed2516]

Probably you got connection problems with the printer first time around, because you did not use the dedicated USB port designated to be used by the printer as was pointed out in the manual, and the software was waiting for a response on that particular port. That port seems to be a v3.0 port, while the ports on the side are for future upgrades and (as far as I understood) v2.0 ports. After not getting the response I guess the stofware starts scanning the other ports (I'm just guessing here). Removing the display does not make a difference, because it's not longer used. I get it that people want all gadgets to be self explanatory and all, but sometimes reading a manual at least once (if only for the starters part) makes life a lot less complicated... 🙂 Anyway - This device seems to be very interesting. Especially because Raspberry Pi's are very difficult to get at this moment, so a "traditionally" klipper setup is not doable. I certainly going to buy one, once it will become available in my country (that should be around mid December this year).

[@aim6mac]

Probably.... probably u are not watching the video carefully, i didn't change the usb port connection at all... i explain what i've done to fix the issue... kind of funny that u point out to stuff but don't watch the video :)

[@jclosed2516]

@@aim6mac I did watch it from start to end. As you probably noticed, I was talking about the initial connection problem. Of course you got it up and running later on as expected (and I give a plausible explanation why). I was in no way criticizing you, but was looking for answers. Anyway - I hope Creality will indeed upgrade their software to correct that faulty acceleration test. I think a lot of inexperienced users will get the impression that all is fine, while they only got a one-axis result. It's a PITA you have to do that second axis test manually, but until that problem is solved there is no other way. Lucky enough it does not have to be done often (only when changing the bed surface to something else).

[@aim6mac]

@@jclosed2516 sorry my bad i misunderstood you, The input shaping problem has been solved on the last update, u can find a video on my channel about thats aswell :)

[@jclosed2516]

@@aim6mac No Problems... Good to know that shaping problem is solved. This device is on my "to buy" list, so every piece of information is welcome. I will take a look at that. Keep up the good work!

[@aim6mac]

@@jclosed2516 thank you!

[@winrun1]

Impossible flash firmware for me. "USB stick was not detected and the operation could not be performed". Does anyone have an idea? And yes, I have tried several cards.

[@aim6mac]

did you try to use another adapter for your sd card aswell?

[@aim6mac]

also make sure your sd card is fat32 not NTFS

[@winrun1]

@@aim6mac problem solved. I used a 4Gb sdcard.

[@aim6mac]

@@winrun1 i'm glad :)

[@iamdmc]

@@winrun1 ah so probably just needed to be fat32

[@jonyovanno4145]

How can you rollback to the original config file?

[@aim6mac]

by just downloading the OEM firmware here www.creality3dofficial.com/pages/firmware-download putting it onto an sd card and flashing it... that simple

[@aim6mac]

sorry now that i read it again... u mean the config file and not the firmware ..?

[@jonyovanno4145]

@@aim6mac Yes the firmware. Like if I want to remove the sonic pad setup.

[@jonyovanno4145]

@@aim6mac I have the ender S1 pro.

[@aim6mac]

@@jonyovanno4145 well then u must download the firmware from the link i send you

[@joel4729]

I AM LEARNING HOW TO MAKE 3D DESIGNS HOW DID YOU MAKE THE COOLANT LINE CLAMPS?

[@aim6mac]

i remixed it from another model

[@joel4729]

@@aim6mac could you send me a copy? mine is not coming out very well.

[@aim6mac]

@@joel4729 sure, can u come to my discord?

[@joel4729]

Yes envenum#1465

[@aim6mac]

@@joel4729 discord.gg/ky7FBQMH

[@Mersuharrastaja]

What that flow-setup does?

[@aim6mac]

it gives better quality prints for faster printing

[@Mersuharrastaja]

@@aim6mac But that does not tell anything what that setup does

[@aim6mac]

@@Mersuharrastaja no it's not included in the video but basically if you change your flow u either get more filament push through your nozzle or less (increase or decrease)

[@ptalbany]

will this work on the S1 Plus ?????

[@aim6mac]

yes it will work, but on the setup you must choose ander 3 s1 and then after installation you have to change the X axis and Y axis min max values , i can help you with that :)

[@ptalbany]

@@aim6mac Thanks for the info and setting the X & Y is something I know how to do but thank you so much for the offer that kindness is not seen often well now to break the news to the wife on spending some more money on printer gear lol

[@aim6mac]

@@ptalbany hahah my pleasure , ps dont tell your wife i'm causing u to spend money :)

[@aim6mac]

@@ptalbany i can even give you the correct values for your X axis position_max: 316 and Y Axis position_max: 312 ... i got this info from a friend who has a ender 3 s1 plus. it works for him but maybe double check it because i didn't check those values myself. Good luck!

[@aim6mac]

@@ptalbany oh yes the Z axis position_max is 300 :)

[@Reindeer-ry2lf]

How do you connect pc to the pad?

[@aim6mac]

By your browser … check the ip adress that the sonic pad has

[@Reindeer-ry2lf]

@@aim6mac thank you 👍

[@Reindeer-ry2lf]

Holy moly that interface moonracer is awesome. Thanks for sharing this with us. ✌️ 💪 🇺🇸

[@IanDDalton]

I love the Klipper Sonic pad, had mine a few weeks now, only weird thing is I have found is if I manually enter something in the Printer.cfg file, then after that every time I restart the Somic pad I get an error about BL Touch, which for some reason I have to remove # from an entry in the Printer.cfg, but i have to do that every time I restart :(, I have tested some CHEP cubes at 500% speeds as well and they came out very nicely :)

[@aim6mac]

did you update to the latest version of the Software?

[@IanDDalton]

@@aim6mac I havent manually updated the software on the Sonic pad, but it did do an over the air update about 2 weeks ago, I will check to see if there is a later version, thanks. Your video was great as I didnt realise about the other tuning capabilities in the advanced menu, I have tried input shapping but seems to error with something about wiring, so may have a faulty cable :(

[@aim6mac]

@@IanDDalton you might indeed have a faulty cable or faulty sensor, either way u should double check it all, if no resolve contact creality they must replace it for you !

[@almulder10]

I would watch but camera movement is way to bad, please print a camera mount and use that and redo video.

[@aim6mac]

Sorry to hear that, will try to do better next time

[@jimhein9689]

Hello and thank you for sharing this important information. I ordered my Creality Sonic Pad last week and expecting it to arrive soon. I agree with Albert Mulder that the camera movement was a little much for me to be able to watch the entire video in one setting .... I kind of experienced some vertigo about half way through. Since your information is so important, I hope that you are able to do the video again using a camera tripod or have someone else hold the camera while you do the explanations. All in all .... thanks again for sharing.