Create a BIG Symphonic Sound in 7 Minutes (Easy to Follow)

[@niels.brouwer]

'A bass trombone blasting it out'. As a bass trombonist that's the type of passage I'm looking forward to the most, and that the celli in front of me dread the most.

[@harrisfrankou2368]

Needs a series be a great character study a great Comedy/Drama..I can relate to Spinal Tap only.

[@KarlRKaiser]

...but then they get to play in almost every movement, throughout, while the blasty instruments count a lot of rests ;-)

[@hoangkimviet8545]

The man: "Sorry, Gustav." Mahler: "Don't worry, my music has appeared in many films."

[@homard6174]

my man Mahler is actually the god father of film music

[@GUPRPEET-Singh]

Hahahahaha.... 👍 Nice observation

[@FreakieFan]

@@homard6174 You can say that about virtually all romantic composers, and far more so about composers that actually wrote a lot of incidental or programmatic music, which Mahler, besides Das Lied von der Erde, didn't really do.

[@homard6174]

@@FreakieFan there is a programmatic nature in Mahler's symphonies especially 1,2, 3, 6, and 8. By the meaning of the godfather of film music, I mean Maher's usage of brass, post-romantic orchestral, and the excessive component of the choir. I also must admit that Mahler is the most popular one among this genre. Wagner and Berlioz, symphonically and musical influentially, have contributed to the style of film music the most

[@FreakieFan]

@@homard6174 Again, virtually all late-Romantic composers wrote reams of music that was programmatic in nature. So that's not a selling point. I absolutely love Mahler, but singling him out as the "godfather of film music" just because he wrote "epic" symphonies, seems a bit ridiculous to me, and dismissive of so, so many other composers.

[@PopeLOLEK]

I took an orchestration course in college and this was what I wanted. This video was more concise and specific with how to actually use each instrument.

[@Az-jt2zp]

brilliant video, i had to hit the like button when those trumpets came in

[@trance_im_wald2907]

2:43 Well, but, in a traditional symphony orchestra, there usually is a set of Timpanis. So, the "timpanist" could play the bassline easily (notice that many modern timpanis have a kind of "tuning paddle")

[@richirare]

In deed but don't forget that the timpanist will mute the timpani between notes to avoid a glissando effect, so it is important to keep that in mind if that if you have a thinner texture there will be a slight detached sound in quick passages that rely on one single tympanum. So overall, yes tuning pedals are the standard nowadays and should be taken for granted the same as low B on a double bass.

[@DaveDexterMusic]

There'd be four, 99% of the time. I used to write timpani parts that followed the bassline, but it's simply not practical or really possible unless you know you have a really specialist timpanist in your session or performance. This bass part has seven notes, and that's unrealistic. Good idiomatic timpani writing has the timps set to four note, ideally in the centre of their range for best timbre, and then gives time for retuning. Off the top of my head, this bassline would be better tuned as: Root (G#), root (A#), 3rd (G#), 3rd (A#), root (F), 5th (A#), root (C) (my enharmonics might be incorrect) So four notes on four drums that encompass the entire bassline, emphasising roots at the start, the move to F minor, and the resolve to C where those are most important. An easy part that doesn't require extremely fast retuning but retains the power.

[@youngmathematician9154]

Or what you can do is you can write it for two sets of 4 timpani. One set plays four notes and the other plays three. Holst used this in Jupiter, when the two timpanists play the theme together.

[@swessels]

Inspirational composition. Your enthusiasm is great. Thank you for this.

[@thomasdavis8117]

This is really good though I will offer one point as an experienced low brass writer and that is that in real orchestras bass trombone and tuba will always be more powerful in octaves, funnily enough it doesn't matter which one is on top as long as they are in octaves.

[@KarlRKaiser]

Octaves are used at both ends of the pitch spectrum for bigger sound. Celli and Basses are often in octaves on the low end and a common use of violins in peak passages is doubling between the first and second sections at an octave. ...and piccolos doubling flutes when the drama heats up.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

do you mean they behave similar like cello and ctb?

[@thomasdavis8117]

@@emanuel_soundtrack They don't have to be in octaves in all situations and they certainly don't have to play the same parts but if they are going to play the same line then they sound more powerful in octaves.

[@christiaandemarezoyens4720]

I heartily agree. Found the example in this video a bit too bombastic and that using octaves would have been a better choice.

[@AynenMakino]

What sample libraries are you using for this? Anything else of note? (Reverb, mixing and mastering notes, EQ, etc...)

[@FreakieFan]

He says he only used a little bit of reverb and nothing else. Just the bare sample libraries.

[@samueljett7807]

@@FreakieFan sample libraries on what?

[@cant_handle_deeznuts]

I would like to know as well

[@Alexdengmusic]

Sounds like Cinesamples

[@wrAIth-AI]

You can get a free download from BBC Orchestra, my fave sound set.🤟😁

[@basiimwavitoe2608]

Wow wow wow. My novice in musical composition has been lifted. What a video!

[@jareda.hawkins649]

This video was amazing and informative!!! You deserve more subscribers, but I'm more than sure that will definitely happen.

[@KarlRKaiser]

These Hollywood sounds were "borrowed" from classical orchestrators. Want to learn how to do it? Listen to Berlioz, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, and Richard Strauss (considered the best of them all). For color and character - not just "big sound" - include Rimsky-Korsakov and Debussy.

[@FreakieFan]

Not to forget Ravel! The king of the colorful orchestra as far as I'm concerned.

[@KarlRKaiser]

@@FreakieFan Yeah, Mother Goose suite and orchestrating Pictures at an Exhibition (originally for piano). Other composers dabbled in orchestrating it, but after Ravel's version it was Game Over.

[@FreakieFan]

@@KarlRKaiser Exactly! Daphne & Chloe: What a spectrum of orchestral colours!

[@kloakovalimonada]

Well the whole modern soundtrack genre is basically lifted from Gustav Holst's Planets

[@RobTi]

@@kloakovalimonada came here to say this. While it is true that one could argue romantic composers were the first to really shell out the foundation of sound used in film scores, it wasn’t fully solidified until Gustav Holst planets series came out. He has every movie genre in that suite.

[@sveinungnygaard1505]

Man, i want to hear the entire piece!

[@orfious]

Your excitement is infectious. And it's nice to see you breaking down one of your own compositions. 👌

[@marcel_schweder-composer]

Your enthusiasm is very refreshing and inspiring. Thanks for that!

[@nightshockplayz5894]

As a person who loves to make music sound like this, thanks a lot for the tips, I will be using them more!

[@sicarius9156]

Yes!! Great Video id love for you to make more videos about how to write for the different instruments!

[@kenrichard5]

What a great video! Thank you very much!!!

[@beejaybertelsen]

Oh yes, please more about composing and orchestration!

[@TheJara123]

Thats what I call a wonderful presentation!!

[@GUPRPEET-Singh]

I want more videos like that... Explaining everything step by step👍👍

[@auldthymer]

Such a joy to learn!

[@GUPRPEET-Singh]

@@auldthymer hi alan what daw you use? Do you compose orchestral music??

[@auldthymer]

@@GUPRPEET-Singh I'm using Finale with some VSTs. And I just scored my 3rd short movie for a buddy of mine.

[@GUPRPEET-Singh]

@@auldthymer never heard of finale...i use fl studio. anyway plz share the link of your scores... how long you been composing orchestral music?

[@ActorFlautista]

Why was this video too short!? 😰 I wanted to see what you did with the rest of it. 😭 Can you make this a series? A "How to Compose..." series? I loved every second of this! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@valentina7193]

I was so needing this right now for a school work. God bless you man!!!

[@marialock007]

Love your enthusiasm! Your face literally lights up :)

Great video!! I love the enthusiastic mood in the whole piece (which would be nice to listen to at the end ;)

[@Dklampanis]

This is brilliant Oscar! Please do more orchestration videos like this!

[@xmarcosnavigator]

I loveeeeeed this

[@samueljett7807]

Haha, just when I needed this, you uploaded!

[@mohig7273]

Excellent sir.... After a long time, something very practical.... Love and respect from India 🙏🇮🇳🙏🇮🇳🙏🇮🇳🙏

[@pablovasquez2166]

more videos about orchestration please.....this is great.

[@nicketaevani-fzukunf007]

Also , how do we compose for synths .I mean not like a music box replacing the orchestra but something like Vangelis , Klaus Schulze , Jean Michel Jarre.

[@JenksAnro]

I don't know how much more of this piece there is, but I'd love to hear the whole thing, and in sure others would too.

[@samueljett7807]

What software are you using to get these sounds?

[@minhquang3126]

also curious about this

[@SuperAmazingPower]

I also need the answer

[@Alexdengmusic]

There's a variety of libraries. Look into Cinesamples, Spitfire Audio or Orchestral Tools. But those libraries are indeed pricey.

[@TiagoNugentComposer]

he's using definitely cinematic studio strings and brass, not sure what he's using for the winds and percussion.

[@gabrielamaro6156]

Amazing mate ! Thanks for sharing this !

[@ObsessiveCostumingDude]

That was a fun excerpt, and it sounded great! Thanks for sharing and discussing it with us. :)

[@Sammy71ful]

Amazing sound....I really got chills when the trumpets were added!

[@stefanul]

i'd love more videos like this. very practical and straightfoward. We all want to compose like Williams and Powell but nobody seems to actually understand that

[@YannisManesis]

as an amateur orchestral/symphonic composer, I have to say this is a very good little informational video!

[@kbh5401]

Thanks for this! I like that it's a short piece which built from the ground up into a very effective sound. I get too bogged down when trying to produce longer pieces, so just playing with a simple 8 bar piece and trying to orchestrate it in multiple ways lets me try out a lot of ideas really fast. It also helps me to build up my palette of textures/colours. So the exercise in this video is very worthwhile if starting out, or if you're stuck for inspiration.

[@limonscore]

This is a really good video

[@ImpsMusic]

Good information. I'm looking forward to applying your techniques to my next album release.

[@Sannahmusic]

There is so much great information in these basics, thank you so much! I have been wondering the last months whether I would ever be able to write something for a standard orchestra, and I kept thinking that I had to give each instrument a separate voice. Funny! Now I understand what the purpose of that all is. I am still experimenting with unusual chamber music, but I think, after a bit more of growing, one day I will be ready for a greater challenge. Thank you again!

[@charlesmcu9294]

this is amazing! very inspiring!!

[@melaD333]

@8:10 Me: oh I kinda got chills You: it’s a bit silly 😂

[@dankanovotna4055]

That's AMAZING! ❤️❤️❤️

[@iAmNovaFilms]

Beautiful!! Great great tricks and tips for this kind of sound. And I love the way that you present these ideas!

[@sihplak]

What VSTs/Sample Libraries are you using in this video?

[@SAZIZMUSIC]

Answer to some of the questions in the comments: To make this music alone (without an orchestra) you need a computer program called 'DAW' (Digital audio workstation). There are many DAWs (e.g. Pro tools, Logic, Cubase, FL Studio, Reaper, Cakewalk, Studio one etc.) Now, The DAW is the software where you program the music. But to get the actual sound you need another thing called 'Virtual sound library' which is basically pre recorded sound of these instruments that you can play with something called 'Midi keyboard'. So you need to buy these libraries too. A Daw costs on avg 500$ and a Good orchestral library around 500$ . So you need around 1000$ to get started. (However there are some free options but the quality of sound may not impress you)

[@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus]

You can get the trial of FL studio for free and use the full functionality of it, plus get free Kontakt player and the Free Orchestra from ProjectSAM which is very good quality despite lacking intricacy but it's free

[@SolarMumuns]

Great video! Very informative and uplifting as well. Thank you!

[@nemanjabogunovic]

I really enjoyed this video! I am a new fan of your channel :)

[@12ghostsII]

That kinda stuff I expected to see in Danny Elfman’s master class. Great job and very useful! Cheers from Kazakhstan ;)

[@wisemank9904]

What a Great lecture!

[@SabertoothStudios1]

I honestly can’t thank you enough for these videos.

[@PierreGenaudeau]

Great video ! Thank you for your advice.

[@shell1951]

I really loved what you made!

[@kennyteeology3526]

Nice! Reminds me of Jerry Goldsmith who liked his fanfares with percussion and bass.

[@apalomba]

This was an awesome video, thanks for posting it! I love the step by step orchestration guide. It really helps me understand how more complex sound textures are created. I would love to see a video where you take a piano sketch and orchestrate it.

[@Scriabin_fan]

Great video, love your content!

[@drums4metal]

Thanks man! Very inspiring

[@Mezilesialan]

Absolutely fascinating. Your creation came step by step. Super rich orchestral sound. Thank you.

[@James_Bowie]

Fantastic! Excellent explanation. 👍👍👍

[@panoslazidis576]

Great job.! Ok a few minutes of watching here the video,to have an idea how to begin a basic idea.I suppose it takes hours or days to have this incredible music .

[@RedCaio]

Amazing. Bravo. Can we hear more / full piece?

[@saldana7395]

Amazing!!!

[@michaellaumusic]

Brilliant. Let us hear the rest of the piece and your approach. You should write a book.

[@RorenMovies]

So much lost time before I got here. Thank you very much, I learned exactly what I needed. 👌👌😀😀

[@theoe354]

Best channel on youtube. (Also, if you ever want to make a musical analysis of Beethoven's emperor concerto, I would be very happy :) )

[@brendaboykin3281]

Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹🔥

[@jackhadeed1884]

Incredible video. Are the instrument sounds that you used in the video real instruments or do you use software that imitates real sounds?

[@iAmNovaFilms]

Sounds like a virtual instrument library, which is real instruments, recorded in a way that allows you to play them on a keyboard

[@FreakieFan]

He uses sample libraries of course.

[@Cancoillotteman]

Sorry i gotta French-in XD "Cuivre" actually means copper, however since most brassy intruments are made of copper it may still be logical

[@TimothyReeves]

Well, brass is an alloy of mostly copper, and the rest zinc.

[@kyungshin5855]

This is GREAT!

[@mehrdad13741]

Brilliant. I especially loved the part that everything settles after the climax!

[@reziahamed6654]

Hi.. this is a wonderful step by step elevation with an excellent hollywood mojo... could you pls let us know the libraries/vsts you often reach out to... especially in this video... many many thanks... cheers...👍🏅🎆

[@idraote]

I don't know whether people have already asked: what software do you use to compose?

[@henryopitz3254]

^^^^

[@rugtea7993]

prob sibelius but it doesnt matter

[@henryopitz3254]

@@rugtea7993 it does matter.

[@Alexdengmusic]

Definitely a DAW to be able to use those libraries

[@poplarboydavid]

Thanks! What hardware and software would you suggest to be able to compose, as you do?

[@lasselukas9724]

Please make a video about your Music collection in the Shelf in the background.

[@ephjaymusic]

Excellent video!

[@Muzisoccer253]

Great, thank you

[@marcparella]

Forgive me for offering a dissenting point of view but doubling at the unison or octave does not fully take advantage of parallel (or harmonic) doubling. Add 3rds, 6ths, 5ths and even 2nds/4ths to thicken the harmonic structure. Ravel used parellel doubling to add not only body but color. A cool technique is to add a minor 7th two octaves in the winds above the bass line and played at a lower dynamic to accentuate the upper-partial harmonic. The harmonic is there but the doubling accentuates it.

[@gabrielkolim]

Niiice!! Your vibe is the best

[@jeremiahlyleseditor437]

Great Example. Did you ever finish the piece?

[@StarshipTrooper4231]

Awesome channel. Discovered you today! I would do some simple staccato patterns with the trumpets and let them play the last 2 or 3 chords with the trombones. It gets too muddy with them doing sustain chords. Just my 2 cents.

[@barthum]

Once again, it's awesome ! 🎇🎶✨

[@wrAIth-AI]

Of course make more of these🤷‍♀️🎶🤟

[@sergechorny9916]

Beautiful and brief! Thanks a looooot for the tips!

[@kirbyspencer]

The trumpets were a good lesson for me I think. Sometimes I think of them as over bearing as they cut through everything, so in this case I might not have included them in the harmony as they might begin to take attention away from the melody. But this goes to show that maybe that brassy sheen on top adds some sizzle and excitement. Maybe having just 2 trumpets playing chords, adding to the upper harmony of the trombones while one adds to the horn melody gives the best of both worlds. Thanks. 🙂

[@joobastudio]

Thanks for sharing ! Subcribed.

[@BluegillGreg]

Nice video, thanks. For all the beginners in the comment section, though, I'd recommend starting with just a five part string orchestra. You should be able to get a good performance with something as small as 4-3-3-2-1, led by the concertmaster, or if in a school, by the string teacher. If you double the cello with the bass it'll even be playable by string quartet.

[@sotirisgeorgiou]

this is so cool

[@yadinmichaeli12]

Love your references with bass and bad😂

[@thomask1714]

Can we hear your piece when it's finished

[@fixyjohnfixyjohn1735]

Excellent tutorial...

[@crismatheson6187]

Fantastic...sounds grand

[@allthingsguitar9219]

Very Inspirational

[@robioptic]

Brilliant!

[@yojesse89]

More videos like this please!!!

[@gabrield.cstoica1832]

Nice and so cool this video tutorial.

[@TheAlaskansandman]

Wish you showed the chords you used and the music staff to see what octaves you're using. Helps give a better understanding of how to air out the music so each instrument is able to breath and not overwhelm each other. Would love to see more, great work

[@ClaudeYoung]

This was brilliant!!!!! Would love to see more of this! Very informative!!!! Thanks!!!!!

[@vorathiel12345]

You didn't make film orchestra. You just made great jrpg game soundtrack :D

[@thedekuseed4965]

This was great! Easy step by step vid to try out for my own😊