Orchestration Hacks (5 Quick Tips)

5 orchestration secrets you may or may not know about!
0:00 Intro
0:59 #1 Melody
4:47 #2 Dovetailing
7:37 #3 It Takes Three
9:30 #4 Overwriting Percussion
11:13 #5 Three Trumpets
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[@JPDC624]

"I can make more of these" - yes, please, if you have time! That clattering noise is me frantically typing notes as I watched this video, this is EXCELLENT insight/info. Thank you! Also, you've definitely trimmed down, congrats and looks great. 👍🏼 Now I need to step up!

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

Haha, okay okay, I’ll record some more. Thank you for watching!

[@musicallyroy]

@@AnneKathrinDernComposer I have always struggled with the intellectual stubbornness that tells me not to be too literal/forward with the melody. My brain is like ‘seriously, that’s all you can think of. Nearly everyone playing the melody. How creative is that’ It makes me feel like I am not paying effort in my piece. Hearing your suggestion and reassurance really helps!

[@AudioArtsAssociates]

Learned more from you than study. Thanks so much!

[@ValkyRiver]

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[@OrzoMondo]

KZbin has transformed our lives - for people like me, knowledgeable enough about music to understand the challenges, but from whom music is a hobby far from our professional sphere, having a master like you sharing their experience is a godsend, and an infinite source of discovery and inspiration. I cannot thank you enough for this.

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

I'm so glad to hear that! This is exactly why I do this. I'm not sure I'd say I'm a master at anything but certainly decent enough to teach a thing or two. ;-P

[@kevinjunior_kid]

Heaven offers great music!! ❤️😇 I wish you could see that

[@dannuttle9005]

I remember the very earliest of music cmposition software, in the 80s, and I was fascinated by it, but had no idea what I was doing. Now I have, well, at least some idea, thanks to brilliant people like Anne-Kathrin, and I'm torn between regret that it came so late in life, and happiness that it came at all.

[@kpflugshaupt]

I love your style of speaking. It’s very easy to listen to! There are too many people on the Tube trying to Make Everything Interesting By Talking In This Excited Manner… Listening to you, I feel treated like the adult I wish I was 🙂

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

So happy to hear that! I’m generally a fairly chill person so I don’t think I could match those energy levels even if I tried. 😅

[@mattkirk100]

Totally agree..!

[@redel37]

When the content is so good you need not to say to like and subscribe... it happens naturally well before the video ends.

[@TheChillGuy000]

Listening a symphony is like eating your favorite food. Just as different ingredients mix to make a dish yummy, different sounds in the music mix to make your ears happy.

[@morayonkeys]

Fantastic video, I'm so glad this popped up in my recommendations! As a now (mostly) former trumpet player, I can give a little bit of insight in #5. Basically for most trumpet players it's much easier to pitch off another trumpet particularly in the higher register, and most players in an ensemble will instinctively adjust their pitch minutely so that all the overtones from each note in the chord line up nicely. This is why a good funk/big band trumpet section sounds so damn good playing big stacked chords! When they're all playing in unison, and particularly when your root note is in the higher overtones (C5 and above - which as you say counts as "high" but is normally fine for all but beginners) this becomes more and more difficult as there's only one overtone series to lock on to. So, if one player hears that they're slightly off pitch relative to the others and moves, but another player does the same thing, they're all trying to hit a moving target! Dropping the 3rd trumpet down an octave means that the higher players now have a rock solid 1st overtone note to reference from, as you spotted. Thanks so much, would love to hear any more tips you have!

[@diegorhoenisch62]

Fucking brilliant! That makes great sense. I played bass trombone and doubling an octave(or two) down stabilized everything. It's got to be that there's a solid overtone to reference to. Cheers, Alan Tomlinson P.S. Ms. Dunn(I was going to write Frau), that was a perfect video. Concise, great examples, well-explained. Thanks!

[@blackkeys00]

Interesting, this is very useful information thanks for sharing!

[@jonaslind9505]

Fascinating insight!

[@pavkey88]

Hey thanks for taking the time to explain this. Makes sense and I was trying to figure it out. Cheers

[@soundtreks]

Best part is when you mention in quasi ASMR soothing tones “don’t be afraid to put a shit ton of instruments on a melody”. I almost fell off my couch laughing so hard. Not at the notion just the delivery.

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

Hahaha, that's what I get for sitting so close to the mic!

[@seanemmettfullerton]

Thank you, Anne-Kathrin! Ha! Great trumpet story... love those quick fixes :) You are such a valuable ambassador to the world. Blessings...

[@bothellintegratedhealthmed8894]

Loved the crickets😄at "young composers over compensate by over writing percussion". Thank you for this video.

[@TheSoundConnoisseur]

It’s funny how you said, in the beginning that it wouldn’t work for mock ups. And this is the perfect advice for my mock ups. lol great video!

[@christopherravelbell8899]

I can't believe you stopped the Moldau RIGHT BEFORE the main theme came in. I just about died right there.

[@brodymclaughlin]

The first piece of advise needs to be said more often. I always feel like I'm doing to many instruments in unison when I'm really not

[@OneShortMoment]

Those were some very helpful tips - well explained, with great examples / anecdotes from your life as a working composer. I definitely wouldn’t mind having more of those…

[@usinganear]

I love the natural and total acceptance of different types of music in your mind--just saying something like "traditional scores 'with melodies and stuff'.." so non-chalantly is hilarious to me. But it's so true!

[@marclarcher7908]

Very nice tips! About the violin sounding twice as loud… 2 violins : +3dB 4 violins : +6dB 8 violins : +9 dB The doubling of the perceived volume is +10dB. So probably 8 or 9 violins should be enough to get the feeling. But ten will do, for sure! Congrats! I wish you a happy new year!

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

Happy new year to you too!

[@matthiasheymann]

Awesome!!

[@xenasloan6859]

You so so SO inspire me to put pen to manuscript and start ( again) all that orchestration waiting to be done. Big problem: I'm pissin' useless......

[@ramonmff5158]

This is still amazing, for it is not only applicable for live orchestras, but also for digital orchestration! This will definitely help me, so thank you!

[@Softdattel]

Great!

[@eleezemckenna6787]

The part about the 3 Trumpets is one of those treasured gems that will be remembered for a life time by me. Additionally the information about 2/3 violins is yet another precious gem of knowledge.

[@DrJoePeters]

Brilliant!

[@wong4728]

This is so very very very most excellent Great. Thank you Anne-Kathrin Dern. You are simply the best. This is pure education-Thanks Thanks Thanks.

[@boreasstudio6561]

Your use of my favourite measurement, the "shit ton" or "shitton" as I like to type it, It is used it in perfect context about all the instruments playing the melody. lol

[@johnhill762]

This is gold

[@ROBRESETAR]

LOVE it !!!!! & you.

[@ruudjansen2412]

Great tutorial, thanks for all the time you put in this!

[@tuzemec9005]

Oh wow,it,s just so helpful. Why this video recommended just two years later?( . Youare like an angel to me now. Thank you so much❤❤❤. I am a your new subscriber

[@1slowstar]

This girl have VERY NICE, effective, clear and short tips for orchestration, BRAVO!

[@elreyabeja4539]

Thank you!!!!

[@ludovicbourgeois9486]

Thanks ! 🙏🏻

[@nordicmandolinbyjarmorompp7801]

Wow, thank you for this!!

[@ZachHeyde]

Clear, concise, and fantastic as always Anne. The trumpet tip was new to me as well! 🎺🎺🎺

[@Evangelionism]

Thank you!

[@DPiano]

Really appreciate what you doing out there! Thank you so much!

[@georgeadel]

Very useful. To the point. Thanks Anne

[@ricgus3]

Amazing tips! Thanks a ton! :)

[@WilliamThomas2040]

Really wonderful, thank you 🙏

[@KBMars]

Great, thank you.

[@grantmoon689]

This is incredibly insightful and useful. Thank you so much Ann-Kathrin - please do make more of these if you can!

[@mjackson2004]

Love it, so practical…thank you!

[@gonzalozubillaga9341]

This is Brilliant!!! Thank you Anne!!!

[@finnfransen_official279]

Great tips!! Thank you so much.

[@filipjonathan]

This was extremely helpful! Yes please to more of these!

[@RenePretschner]

Thank you for your great Tips!

[@tutubeos]

Thank you 🙏

[@myroadtothemusic3479]

Great Tips! I definitely learned a lot. Thanks! 😊

[@Ernie_Centofanti]

Yes, make more of these. ❤️

[@sanjayr.a8502]

Thanks for the great tips 🙏

[@jayducharme]

Excellent suggestions. Thank you!

[@Just_DonovanJ]

That was amazing!! Thank you very much!!!

[@steph1918]

Absolutely makes sense! Thanks for these useful tips Anne-Kathrin.

[@D20Music]

Thanks Anne-Kathrin - Really useful tips and interesting to hear what you've learned from live players and orchestrators.

[@Ztiredeul]

Thanks a lot!

[@LightNSoundStudiosTamil]

Thank you! It's very useful.

[@sebastiandudek4016]

Great tips, extremely useful! Thanks 👍

[@StefanoRean_FilmMusicComposer]

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!

[@dfizzbom]

Fantastic! This stands above all the myriad of videos I view on the subject, as being the most succinctly constructed to avoid yada yada yada yada...coma. I can easily fall victim to over complicating my mockups. It's a byproduct of actually having the ears but being unschooled- my schooling being listening to the greats, absorbing a shit ton of learning material, watching every video you put out, and writing a shit ton of compositions. With every new piece I start by saying ok, I'm gonna do myself a favor and simplify. This video goes a long way as a reminder to that end, and how to better accomplish it. Thank you so much, Anne. I'm a shit ton pleased with this video. (Yes, you're speaking my shit ton language!)

[@jloiben12]

“I can make more of these.” The world would be much better off if you did

[@AnneKathrinDernComposer]

Okay fine. :-)

[@potowatax]

Thank! Very interesting and useful!

[@AlmaLibreStudios]

Super insightful! Thank you so much and keep these videos coming!

[@Bass-dude]

Just fantastic. So helpful. Thank you!

[@jingleskhanaudioproductions]

thanks Anne!

[@jrileycain6220]

I'm totally digging all your advice. Thanks!

[@Equinerhael]

Thank you for this. Has been a huge help!

[@eylam9690]

I'd love to see more of these, thanks! Great stuff.

[@lorenzocarota6933]

Awesome video!!

[@jeffreycomposer]

Great work Anne!

[@mjm5081]

Thank you for sharing. ✌ ❤ 🎶

[@willydeangelis699]

Great video!! Keep em coming, you're amazing! Thanks so much for sharing the knowledge 🙏❤

[@sampowellmusic]

i am not an orchestral composer but i find your videos very interesting and enjoyable.

[@iluvshuze333]

Very helpful! Thanks for sharing!!!!

[@hanley2765]

Thank you so much for this, Anne-Kathrin! Your insight is much appreciated and I hope you do more. BOOM! I love it :)

[@ToroneMusic]

Thank youuuuu so much for those tips. It’s so useful !

[@jamiereed5210]

Respect 💣 🙏🏼🖤

[@MegaRecRoom]

Thank you for that! Exactly what I needed.

[@GunterBrenner]

Having someone play an octave lower for support is so so so helpful, lead singers tend to benefit a lot from that as well! Another workaround is to send them a clean piano through their hp mix.

[@edwardgrantmusicnyc]

Thanks so much for the video! Very helpful!

[@ericsbluesjams429]

Clearly & simply explained. Well done. Very pretty Eyes too. :)

[@kevinafflack]

Great tips that I can immediately apply to my work! Short and to the point. Please keep them coming and have a great 2022!

[@jesus-of-cheeses]

Thank you so much for this! Please make more orchestration videos! You’re amazing!

[@fabianweisenberger]

Great 👌🏻 Thank you so much 🙏

[@charleshuguley9903]

Very helpful suggestions. Thank-you!

[@sylvaind9086]

Wow! That was really useful info. Thanks!

[@wavewatchermedia]

Bedankt voor deze tips!

[@ShaharHarshuv]

Thanks! That was very useful. I'll love to see more videos like this

[@composercode]

So helpful!!! Thank you

[@moseskalai5452]

Thankyou!

[@zeufg7]

Thank you Anne. 💐🎶🎹🎼📝

[@Chaton68]

Very instructive ! Thank you for this video !

[@jeremiahlyleseditor437]

Wonderful tutorial Anne. Yes please do make more in this style. You were very helpful. Thank you

[@davidsinclair699]

Thanks! Very useful, would love see more quick tips.

[@thomasjorennielsen]

Amazing straight to the point!!!! Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge super helpful

[@fabianbourgeais5784]

Merci pour ton partage et tes retours d"expériences. 👏👏👏👏👏👏!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@daniellanz1769]

Thank you so much for sharing this - absolutely practical information, keep on!

[@user-ql6zf8ek7n]

Thank u ❤️

[@xapmic6961]

Vor kurzem habe ich deinen Kanal per Zufall entdeckt und sehr schnell abboniert. Mir gefiel die Art und Weise der Erklärungen. Nach einem der letzten Videos die ich von Dir gesehen hatte, habe ich mich gefragt, wie sich zum Beispiel Lautstärken verschiedener Instrumente unterscheiden, welche Tonhöhen werden üblicherweise von einzelnen Instrumenten gespielt usw. Dieses Video deckt genau solche Fragen ab, von denen ich noch gar nicht wusste, dass ich sie stellen könnte. Sehr hilfreich, unaufgeregt und ruhig erklärt, wirkt es sehr kompetent. Lieben Dank fürs Teilen!

[@AndyDePooter_Composer]

Excellent tips! Will keep them all in mind, especially the trumpet one.

[@anthonystahl]

I've watched a dozen or so of your videos, and honestly I've learned more in that time than months of watching others. Love your honest, straightforward and calm delivery as well. Can't wait to see what's next!

[@Joel-Monterra]

Top notch quality content and some really great tips! Danke dir Anne-Kathrin!

[@poncharellocr]

I loved video, thank you..