Creating MIDI Beat Slices from Loops in REAPER

[@KudjoTwum]

This takes REAPER to yet another level. Thanks Kenny.

[@studiognd]

In other DAWs this is a one click task. Reaper is really behind in this area. There are some scripts that speed up the process, but still it is behind other DAWs in this specific area.

[@TheDeathknight23]

It will be like that for at least 5 years until they start to realize that something is wrong with their sampler.

[@BertiVox]

Yes I'm agree , it would be good if the information can go up to dev. team. It is automatical in Logic Pro since 2009

[@paaao]

I use a free VST in reaper called short circuit, and it displays a midi keyboard, you can then cut/slice and drag drop pieces, or entire wav samples straight from the media explorer to whatever key you want them to be triggered by. You only need one instance of short circuit on a track to cover your entire keyboard. So... in reality, reaper already has easier ways to do this, but it’s great that Kenny is showing how to do it without any added VSTs. Once you start thinking outside the box, reaper smokes any other DAW. I have friends who use pro tools, and abelton, and I always find reaper to have equal to/better than/or same as abilities to do anything that they can do. It’s just a matter of knowing how.

[@paaao]

BIG DUMMY, I’m sure there is a way to do propper sampling in reaper, and yes I use an old VST because I myself am old, and cheap. However, %99 of the people I see doing sampling in any DAW, you name one... do it with a 3rd party VST.

[@ARE_YOU_SICK_OF_YT_CENSORSHIP]

Cockos is almost a 1 man company, Frankel openly admits to reluctance of hiring more staff and growing, so that's part of the reason

[@miggychan]

Oh hell yeah, im gonna try to make some breakcore drums now

[@vutib]

I was just here for the same, ahah

[@miggychan]

@@vutib Bruh, send me anything you make. The world needs more breakcore artist and I will support you.

[@andrescoca983]

I was literally here for the same haha

[@andrescoca983]

Also this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqO8aph4fd5nqbM

[@aloha4522]

such a wonderful tutorial ! thanks a lot Kenny

[@Eugene-Braack]

Great tutorial Kenny - keep 'em coming please!

[@marceloribeirosimoes8959]

The real issue starts with the impossibility to drag the slicer start point lines that will become MIDI "marks". All we need at this stage is to be able to drag them and adjust them correctly. There is another very important point on this. Those MIDI points are placed by transients found on the Reaper slicer. They are really good on do that. But slicing waves is a different thing. And, almost all the time, we should start the sliced portion about 3 milliseconds before, giving more room for the SNAP of that snare, hi-hat, kick, or whatever. So, the MIDI point is one thing and the slice start point is another... So, we need a way to assign them separately and an offset set up to compensate them. Because, if I get the generated MIDI file, generated by de dynamic slicer on Reaper, after have sliced the drum loop, it will work fine in almost all cases with drum sounds replacement. Because, generally, it works really well with transients to do that. BUT talking about those sliced pieces, you'll probably get almost all snaps off, lost, wasted... And look, I am not even close to talking about the "building a drum loop sampler routine" yet. If you have a 2 bars 16/4 drum loop, full of syncopated hits, etc., how many ReaSamplOmatic5000 you'll need to set up??? Yes, that's a really great thing we can do that on Reaper. But, definitively, Reaper was NOT made for BEAT makers, RAP producers, and this kind of musical approach... You can use it, of course. That's a GREAT DAW, no doubt about it. But now I know that Reaper is a better tool for those that love to record their guitars or maybe those that are garage band members and stuff like that... Reaper is a better tool for rock, pop, country, styles, etc. than for Hip-Hop, RAP, styles... As far as I can see, the workflow for a RAP producer on Reaper needs to be crafted and adapted. Many other musical styles can open Reaper and feel at home... BTW, I bought Reaper and I LOVE it. But I really miss those tools that make me don't need to pook over the fence to other DAWs... ...like Image-Line SliceX, Phatmatik Pro, Shortcircuit, Poise (which allows drag/drop samples from Reaper arrange window to its interface, and it is very handy !), tx16w v2, LiveSlice, Geist 2, Arcdev H4xxor, Transfuser, ReCycle, Renoise Redux, Freecycle (almost impossible to find it), Looperator, Inicial Slice (My PICK, so far), HY-Slicer, Momentum, Egoist, Vice... PLEASE, REAPER lovers, at least we should have a discount to pay for some of those great slicers... ...what about that?

[@E_-_-]

Amen (This reply was made possible by 14 instances of Samplomatic)

[@E_-_-]

uh... no pun intended!

[@marceloribeirosimoes8959]

@@E_-_- Hi, E ! In fact, I was so tired to try slice and save my drum loops properly that I've been using plugins like Momentum and a really cool sound explorer called Resonic Pro (trial). Really cool. Of course, they are not the perfect solution like a real deal sound slicer, but they can get the job done...

[@mikenzich]

Thank you - your instructional videos are most useful.

[@asiullopes]

there could be a way of importing multiple items to multiple samplers all at once, so at least we could import our already chopped and midi-ed samples all at once by selecting everything, or just the chops we want, but still with just one action and not one by one. i know there are scripts for this but right now i can't really find an uptaded one and i very often have a lot of chops to work with. i already have a shortcut for chopping, another for creating chromatic midi and an fx chain full of samplers ready to play, but then having to import the chops one by one everytime is really time consuming and a bit frustrating

[@Wayne_Robinson]

That looks fun! I know at least one Bernard Purdie beat I want to slice and play with.

[@vegardyrnes1793]

Thanks. One of the things that I am a bit rusty on in Reaper. Your videos are really good and informative, and my Reaper folder has quite a few now :-) Have a nice weekend

[@ArielTavori]

Great video, and I adore Reaper, but this workflow is absolutely horrendous, and I think to find a comparable one you'd have to go back 15 years... This is a one click, or a simple drag and drop task in most other top DAWs. Has been for like a decade. In most cases it's so simple it can be discovered by accident, or figured out within moments of trial and error. Unlike this, which has to be memorized, and if you don't do it every day you'll probably have to look up this video again next time. At least Sitala is free and has a quick midi learn. Speedrum could be another great cheap option for many workflows. Good luck friends, and happy creating! 🙏

[@chezchezchezchez]

Very nice Kenny!

[@marceloribeirosimoes8959]

PLEASE... Is that possible to engage the audio slice start point to the note start point and change their position in time together? Because the default slicer usually can't find all drum loops transients perfectly, so I need to move some... ...but if the MIDI doesn't moves with the audio at same time, I'll change the transients time position on audio and not on MIDI. And it will become a little mess, for sure...

[@haroldpalmer3245]

Very helpful thanks Kenny,

[@materialistadialectico4884]

I am not able to slice each sound precisely so some of the samples contain two or more sounds. Also when I drag them in the midi screen they tend to align to the grid... what am I doing wrong? great video btw. Thanks!

[@EckertAndras]

In other DAWs, this function is 1 keypress. Why not upgrade this to REAPER? Based on Propellerheads Recycle.

[@ARE_YOU_SICK_OF_YT_CENSORSHIP]

is it 100% accurate there?

[@janosgrausza8790]

I use slice to new sampler track funcion in Logic Pro X. It is really one click.

[@kamkamkamkamkamkamkamkam]

you could probably set REAPER up so this task would be accomplished in one keypress

[@--..__]

this is crazy... you have to do it by hand!??

[@evandroferreira2868]

thx so much, Kenny

[@shawhinlayeghi3384]

Thank you bro. Golden.

[@stray_cloud]

That was really useful. Thanks a lot!

[@marceloribeirosimoes8959]

I can't do that here Reaper 6.34 I can't understand but I've imported audio from a video and selected and sliced a snare. Then copied the snare to a different empty track. Then opened Reasamplomatic5000 and all it can import is the original full music file. Have no idea why is that. Oh, and BTW, where did you got those kick and snare sounds? Man, those ones are really beautiful...

[@ryanpeplinski1884]

Just finished watching the video and haven’t tried this yet. Can you adjust the velocity of the MIDI and it will affect the output of the sample slice?

[@youngmould]

This guy knows his stuff..

[@narayanraikar3028]

How to embed beat slice information to the wave file and how to export this

[@oscarolivas5920]

Reaper should get something like abletons “simpler”. It’s way faster and easier

[@gilgermano]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqO8aph4fd5nqbM

[@ageshero]

Is there a drag and drop pad thing like ableton has?

[@CarlosVazquez-em1ih]

Amazing bro!!! thnx!!!!

[@ulfsvensson9710]

Wonderful!!

[@MonkeyBars1]

Your loop has a nice swing to it Kenny. Is there a way to grab the groove from it automatically and apply that quantize to the midi?

[@Byronic19134]

Gabriel Vine Just label and save that midi clip

[@MonkeyBars1]

but it's audio

[@ARE_YOU_SICK_OF_YT_CENSORSHIP]

no, but you can do what he's shown, that is convert audio to MIDI, then save the groove template using SWS extensions Groove tool and apply it wherever you wish SWS extensions need to be installed separately as an add-on

[@Pennyroyal9]

Is there a better way to do this yet?

[@haelmichdabro3302]

how to make samples cut eachother this way? that would be awesome!

[@lazyskull7949]

thanks brother

[@teetev]

there has to be a faster way to do this without all the copy and pasting. reaper is great but super time consuming

[@DontreadPimpBoy]

Have you found the way?

[@eoghanw1]

That's what I was thinking too but at the end he pointed out that you can save the effect chain, which means the only thing you need to do is chop the audio. Don't doubt Kenny

[@espertempo]

Smooth!

[@Karpo1]

Cool that you're able to do this, but frankly it's ridiculous you need to put that much effort for such a simple task. I bet i would've done that faster with my old mpc2kxl, and it was released in the 90's.

[@aaronjohnson9062]

Reaper can do it all. Yeah Kenny!

[@haelmichdabro3302]

Aaron Johnson Nah, Reaper can do a lot, but for sure not all. You need a real sampler to make classic beats

[@dbo514]

@@haelmichdabro3302 nah you don't. Reaper can do everything with samples. Sure it may not be as natural as Ableton, but once you create your templates, it gets dead easy and you surely don't need a ''real'' sampler to do classic beats.

[@haelmichdabro3302]

dbo514 If so, please tell me: "how to make samples cut eachother this way? that would be awesome!" Anyway, Reaper is my DAW of first choice with some third party plugins :-)

[@dbo514]

@@haelmichdabro3302 You just need to open Reasamplomatic as an FX and then copy and duplicate it as many times as you need sample pads. Then you assign keyboard notes for each, you can click obey note off if you like, and reduce the min vol to -inf so they become velocity sensitive. Then you right-click and save as track template, call it ''Sample Pads'' or whatever you want. Then you can insert the track template whenever you need a sampler. Record a loop that you want to sample into Reaper and then in reasamplomatic click ''Import item from arrange'' and you can edit the start and end point of the loop to isolate hits, or melody notes just like on a Maschine or an Akai Sampler. When you're happy with your choice for each pad, you can close the FX window and turn on the click track (metronome) and record a performance live with your pads or keyboard, exactly like with old school samplers.

[@haelmichdabro3302]

@@dbo514 TU, I'll try it tonight, couldn't find obey note off option, it may be a game changer for my workflow, but Reaper v.6 should have rebuild ReaSamplomatic to make it more comfortobale to use anyway. Peace bro :-)

[@jazzbeats8168]

thanks for this.... any way to make the process faster?

[@chezchezchezchez]

HaHa....wow...

[@MarkBragg]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqO8aph4fd5nqbM

[@Xtianu]

Can you make a video about REX files?

[@brb8407]

woulda been really great if you explained what to do if its not working. When I click the button, it doesnt make any sound and when I play it back, it sounds all fucked up. I have no idea how to fix this. But thanks for the tutorial, wouldn’t even know how to do any of this in the first place without it.

[@ether5431]

How do you mix them one by one individually?

[@descorchafairys]

you cant., Reaper is a piece of shit.

[@thehypnotist9750]

This is so much more work than in other DAWs. I love reaper but dont really use it anymore because it makes sampling too cumbersome. We cant easily chop samples and flip them into beats.

[@dbo514]

naw it's easy you just have to set up templates and you can easily chop samples.

[@descorchafairys]

@@dbo514 you can't route per-sampler output in this channel, this is useless

[@Kodeb8]

Yes, thank you! Now I can make Dnb!

[@andreyklochok]

Thanks!

[@elya5593]

The script "mk slice" does this with almost one click and a lot more.

[@TimelessGamingSoftware]

Dope

[@maxmaxed2887]

Eat THAT Ableton

[@brooktewolde5775]

MVP

[@tentilol]

fnf fans eating good tonight

[@MarkBragg]

Excellent video. Good to know how this works. For the people asking for the quicker version, here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqO8aph4fd5nqbM

[@gilgermano]

very good thanks!!

[@descorchafairys]

Reasamplomatic is a piece of shit. You can't route this configuration to different output channels to modify effects on them.