CREATING THE RULES FOR THE LAKE I BUILT

[@mintysgt]

you should of tested the bed run with someone whos actually a sleep, not waiting in ready inbroad day light, i feel 17 seconds will be more like 60 seconds when in the dark and dazed

[@RcaHellemons1972]

and a close door not a open one !!!!

[@mintysgt]

@@RcaHellemons1972 that’s it, so many things that make that 17 seconds unrealistic. Not that I’m saying being at the furtherest point on the pond to your swim is ok. But I’d wager most anglers could get back long before they could do it when fully asleep in that chalet in the middle of the night.

[@jaadmaan8156]

It’s not like there’s any snags in the lake. You could turn the alarms off and wake up in the morning on a lake like that…

[@dannyhudson7941]

Crocs and a bivvy light connected to alarms 🎉

[@mintysgt]

@@jaadmaan8156 that’s semi true if you was fishing 1 rod. But then anyone thinking that’s ok shouldn’t be fishing at night in the 1st place.

[@mattscfc849]

I’d say a carp care kit is absolutely essential.

[@benedictfowler]

We provide them! 😅

[@flavaofthemonth7910]

Was about to say the same and then seen the reply. Amazing that you provide it Ben👏👏

[@dubvibes731]

Be surprised the amount of nods that don’t use it even when it’s provided

[@zzTUCKERzz]

you really should consider barbeless hooks. if you have a break there alot more chance of the hook falling out where ive pulled out many fish with the line and hook still attached when there is a barbed hook .

[@Blabalablabaljdmd]

Cant wait till your Open.....I definitely want to catch Kev Carp❤

[@muvvacrusher4137]

Wise choice on the barbed rule 👌

[@fish4fun84]

You forgot to do the test of tethering two fish up, one barbless and one barbed and see which one dies or has the least chance of ever getting off. I agree the barbed should move less, but sacrifice a cut for a hugely higher escape or hook ridding chance?

[@dragonelite4394]

it will rust out if the rig is safe the lead should be gone and unless its trailing 70ft of line it ent gonna die in that lake nothing for it to get tangle and die from

[@STESTESTEEFC]

Just got up to the Ali hamidi part holding the twig 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 please tell me it’s banned 🤣 if it is that part is gold! 😭

[@STESTESTEEFC]

Ha ha ha ha no thank you. Hope your lake goes well, but no more watching your videos after that decision, it stops at that point

[@RacinRitchieyt]

barbless all day long, just go to thorpe fisheries in egham and see the state of the carps mouths, theres very little left, gary insists on barbed hooks to the detriment of the fish, barless make a puncture wound, barbed rip chunks out, over time theres no meat left around the mouth

[@johnnyd9441]

Spot on ..

[@DomFishingUK]

Don’t know the pros and cons of each hook but if you got to my local commercial with a max hook size of 12 and barbless only and all the carp have a mouth the size of a piece of sweetcorn 😬

[@ASMRFishingBuddy]

Simple as that ! Counts for all fish. I have seen so many perch as well with ripped of mouths.

[@robbrownfield7677]

Go to Drayton, been a barbless venue since day one. The state of some of those fish is horrendous.

[@cfc1277]

Totally agree, if you have tight line and good contact with the fish a barbless hook will not move in the fishes mouth. Its a shame that Ben has gone done this route as would of liked to visit Kev's pool. But don't want to use barbed hooked which is a shame.

[@davidmills8451]

Def need to add must use a carp care kit👍👍👍

[@asbonova]

Good choice with the hooks now I'll defo be booking when it's open 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@steventhompson3486]

Hi Benedict, I enjoy your series on how you built your own lake from scratch and the challenges you have faced and overcome. I have a couple of suggestions for you:- Did you consider Gripz hooks from Pallatrax in your deliberations. Super sharp, strong hook holds that don't move around whilst the tension is on. Super sharp which stay sharp, fish after fish - no need to sharpen. Hooks come out easily once the fish is landed often leaving no sign in the mouth of where the hook was located i.e. minimal mouth damage! Would also suggest that you consider making the use of fish antiseptic and wound treatment mandatory, either as a rule or provided with net, mat and sling.

[@davidhearn1290]

Looking forward to when you open. Enjoyed watching all your progress and be great to fish here with my boys.

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

Test the magic twig out yourself, mimic a break off , like you've just lost a fish and you'll see the damage it causes. It's not the rig hooking mechanism that's the issue, it's more the danger of the arms that spring out once the twig is activated , they will be getting caught in weeds in the event of a break off or when the fish bolts and takes line. Attach it to your line, activate the magic twig, and then grab the end of your line, the end that would be in the fishes mouth if you had a fish on, and pull it through weeds. The arms that have activated on the magic twig stick out and latch onto everything in its path. The magic twig's then act as a grapple, and it WILL kill fish.

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

Imagine an anchor attached to a boat with rope whilst it's sailing, the arms of the anchor are getting caught on rocks, snags, wood, weeds etc. That's the equivalent of the magic twig (the anchor) attached to the fish (the boat) , getting caught whilst it's swimming. Really not good.

[@bradleyd1967]

Never had my hands on one, probably never will tbh buuuut if they are as tough as you seem to think when the arms are out, it will probably cut through weed. If you get hung up on a stick, then surely the plastic which is pliable enough to flex in the first place will move... if it gets hung up. You probably would have anyway & rock part... well it should never really be in the situation to snag up on rocks.... its not a marker lead, its not to be bounce along the bottom. If a fish takes the whole thing we are trying to do is keep it up off the bottom... & if you want to say a what about a ledge then i say... what about the lead?? Lead clip... dropped lead. Line could still rub the shelf.... end of the day things happen. Fish die.. we shouldnt really care about fish dying so much if all that we try & do is pull them out the water & try to suffocate them for a bit them go naaaah jokess back you go pal 😂😂 so yeah... who cares that much at the end of the day things happen 😊

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

It won't cut through weed because it's a flat arm, there's videos online of them bringing thick weed back in. In the event of a break off, the magic twig would be the heaviest part of the rig that's still attached to the fish, causing it to scrape along the bottom and snag, whilst still attached to the fish. The lead on a clip set up will drop off in the event of a line break , the magic twig won't, it's fixed on the line. You clearly have no idea how the magic twig works, so I'm not sure how you have strong opinions on it. We can still fish and have a standard of fish safety. Not to mention Ben is a fishery owner, I'm sure he'd want to protect his investments that cost thousands ££ even if he hypothetically didn't care about fish safety.

[@dragonelite4394]

not his lake tho will it theres only reeds which can easily break and be swam through

[@bradleyd1967]

@CymruCelt01 yeah cut through weeds.... hence why he's saying it brings a lot of weed in.... if it didn't cut through it, it wouldn't be brought in you tool 🤣🤣 you think weed just floats in the water?? No it grows.. I.e attached... to some where & to release that it need to be cut in some form. Simple

[@livinglife8565]

Definitely need a light of some sort absolutely loved the video's it looks absolutely quality

[@JordanHuntAngling]

Love to see uncle gurt getting involved!! Making me hungry!! Give me some chicken!! 🍗

[@ronniemoysey8854]

You should have used the Benny Hill theme for the run around the p̶o̶n̶d̶ lake ! xD xD

[@razrclan8232]

Can’t wait for the lake live in Gloucester so can make that journey most days

[@gcarpmad]

Fair rules. I look forward to the time I can book up a midweek fish. I will look but no doubt most prob going to be a long list trying to got on it. Good luck and tight lines to whom ever gets to fish it before I do.

[@NigelHarrhy]

Yes, fish in in small commercial fisheries do often have damaged mouths, and that's because they are caught so often, barbed or barbless will cause damage, but barbless does cause less damage. You stick a barbed in your finger, ill stick a barbless in mine, and lets see who's going to hospital. You have done a fantastic job, well done, if you wish to see mine, and if you ever fancy a walk round please do, your most welcome anytime, Nigel Harrhy, Barston Lakes.

[@markghawitt7135]

At least 20 seconds to register the bite alarms and wake up before getting out of bed 😂

[@LeonEdwards-wh6tp]

Great rules and not to many strict rules a lot of fisheries scare away anglers with never ending rules 🤣 I love what you’ve done man followed the whole story proper proud 💙 always dreamed of having my own lake and to see someone else dream come true makes it that much sweeter

[@ianhaworth4588]

Rule 2 was an unfair test as he was ready to get out the bed as was awake. Gotta add a few more seconds to the 1st time lol probs closer to 25 seconds from bed to rod from a sleeping start

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

Needs some trees

[@benedictfowler]

Got a whole load coming soon

[@Countrylifewithchasser]

You should have fishing pegs for places people can fish

[@theabandonedhunter3604]

Looking forward to visiting! 🎣 ….Smithy

[@leehartley1667]

Brill mate 👍

[@danielfairless6124]

How can you control or check the BS of line?

[@twincamspit]

Measure the diameter. Don't even need to reel in, can be done on the pod / bank sticks.

[@parkourcentral7194]

2:35 not in Scotland

[@stevehackett3576]

barbed & barbless hooks have a place if you think not just try fishing for tiny fish on small hook a see how many you catch and how many bump off with no pressure on the line

[@shaunbanyard6521]

Fair set of rules for your fishery, as everybody uses KZbin, other fisheries should do a video on their rules like you have, would save any misunderstanding 🤦‍♂️ love your content and watching the progression

[@keithbeddoe305]

Would it not cut the time if you set the rods up nearer the accomodation door?also wouldn't need to put on trainers if not going down onto gravel😊

[@benedictfowler]

Might limit the ability to be able to position the lines for the angler fishing to the right. However great idea! :)

[@jayskilton]

I could run back from the far bank faster then he got out of bed 😂

[@docgreen27]

Check out gripz hooks. A nice compromise between barbed and barbless.

[@legacybaits1827]

Grips are utter toot they do no better than barbless having tested them

[@twincamspit]

A lot of fisheries don't allow them. I've tried them at a "barbed or barbless" venue, and also tested on the kitchen table but not sure they make a massive difference over barbless. The pallatrax hooks came out of a piece of test cork a lot easier than a microbarbed, but not much different than a barbless. Their stone weights though are class!

[@DanS360]

Ben. As in experienced angler have you ever needed a "self hooking device" to aid you in catching all the carp you caught. ?? If an experienced carp angler like yourself doesn't need it, it begs the question what type of angler does and would you let them on your fishery ??

[@justingreen693]

What about push hike or electric scooter to bait up the far bank when your rods are out? I take they’ll be more rules or is that it? Leaders/leadcore ? Carp care kit? Will there be house pellet? I see a few lakes are now limiting the amount of bait going in? Is alcohol be aloud on site? I’m not picking holes just wondering!

[@ArdyR1]

Ben I’m in need of some new reels. Make a signature ones. It’s got have all the features. I’ll be waiting 👊 🎣 .

[@Mrchipsv2]

@1:22 that's not how you say reservoirs 😂😂👍🏻

[@ashlleyy1990]

barbless 100%. only use barbed when river fishing

[@seanhall6265]

Just to correct you , we don't need a rod licence to fish in Scotland. I'm only commenting as you said anywhere in the UK.

[@JamesHughes-cl9ky]

Also only freshwater fishing needs a licence

[@andyb8231]

setting a time may mean you need a defibrillator - few of the lads i know cant run that far. --- oxygen tank back at the peg at least :) good luck tho

[@peterthornton8520]

I think you have a possible issue with policing the Hooks rule. As a Commercial Angler we only use barbless hooks unless we fish reservoirs or large naturals including Rivers where barbed hooks are allowed (Dependant on owners decision). I think the issue of fish shedding a Barbless hook as opposed to a Barbed hook is in favour of Barbless especially when it comes to Fish being tethered. Also the majority of Fisheries wont allow for any Lead/Feeder/Bomb to be fixed. i.e. The Bomb/Feeder/Lead has to be free running as this allows for the weight to fall of in the event of a break off. The twig is definitely a big No No as is the case of Rods left unattended. Other wise not to many issues. Good luck with your Fishery. Cheers

[@CFSMoto]

Hi Ben quick question mate I’m looking at coming down soon with my fishing mate , would you allow baiting from the opposite side only providing there is someone else that is with the rods in the swim at all times ? Would that be allowed as then someone will be able to strike it if it does go off ? If not then no worries , don’t know until you ask I suppose , thanks👌🤷‍♂️

[@andrew1bradley]

Have u got some fast groing trees roundthe lake ,or maybe intoduce some more features real or imitation?

[@colinlandess2735]

Surely you need to account the fact anglers will be asleep when the first few beeps hit the alarm so defo add 30 more seconds to the bed test

[@WillParish]

Always had a rod license but I’d love to see someone try and take my fishing gear 😂😂

[@SD-oi9gr]

Did I get it wrong but you only have 1 swim in the entire lake?

[@ashsanglingadventures]

Pond

[@NathanLloyd-nn6jv]

Puddle

[@wordswithmeaning4417]

Drop 💧 in mud

[@darrenrsmith7119]

Yup... Gonna take many years to see any profits... And, pond 😋

[@1gpman]

@@darrenrsmith7119 He won't see any profit back from this unless he charges silly money per night as a fishing/glamping experience.

[@mictaylor9531]

I always say the fisherman argue about Barbed hooks over barbless - I tell you what, you stick a barbless hook through your lip and pull it out and then you stick a barbed hook through your lip and pull it out. I guarantee they’ll enjoy the barbed one less 😂 no brainier

[@Not-Today-Pal]

@@sharkeyes a lot of fisheries actually request barbed hooks so the hook doesn’t come out an end up elsewhere in the fish I,e eye or fins

[@steveneveritt4871]

I've personally seen many horrific carp mouth injuries because barbless hooks have sawn there way out, think ripping an earring out! Never sweet that happen with barbed hooks!

[@2smokepoke]

I fish one venue with a barbless only rule and it’s only when using barbless hooks at said venue have I seen what damage they can cause

[@adamevo6]

I’ve never used barbed hooks in 30 years, and I’ve never ruined a fishies mouth

[@TheTwoFingeredBullDog]

​@@adamevo6It's not the fish's mouth that can get damaged, we've all had a fish on with barbless for it to come out and hook the fish elsewhere, if the fins get damaged it could be game over.

[@matthewfoster6620]

What's your opinion on carp sacks? Just like the barbed hooks, some venues are dead against them.

[@MasterBlue7225]

I would say no rods in at night because let’s say you shut the door and you can’t or haven’t heard the alarm the fish is down on the line

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

That's what receivers are for

[@leec9435]

You can run the wires from your early 90’s sounder box through a slightly ajar window nowadays.

[@martinharries6149]

Good old Lennie Weller!

[@Hikerboy_adventures]

Are you going to be upgrading more banks or ?? Cus that bank you cant get more then 4 rods out and sure more banks mean more income ?? No ones going to cast far right to other side when you can put more banks in amd o correct ??

[@Thanetian577]

Will people be allowed to smoke while fishing on your pond ?

[@chizzle6237]

No sorry mate non smoking venue

[@macoustra1]

@@chizzle6237 Keir Starmer will support that too!

[@Canockcarpfisher]

What size reels would u want us to use and what test curv rods

[@ragnorremix8426]

No heavy petting 😊

[@markneedham2287]

Are you allowing braid

[@AzzaP13]

Barbed hook all day, dont want hooks pulling out and getting caught in side of fish damaging then or in their eyes. Which happens alot with barbless especially when in the net. What about slinging fish through the night?

[@Crystalpal1978]

How is the water leaking going, has it settled?

[@tinystiddlers8170]

No lifting the fish in the net with a rig in its mouth should be a rule either cut the line or de attach the rig

[@BrotherJallan]

NRA bailiffs are also very hot on people being too far away from their rods. I know that some carp anglers have fallen foul of the rule "It is illegal to leave a rod and line unattended with its bait or hook in the water. You must be in control of your rod and line at all times".

[@MrAndyS]

the barbed hook debate is not over lip damage it over the fish being able to shake the hook if it gets snagged and could die

[@samsonoldenglishbulldog7409]

How do i book cant wait to try my luck on here

[@tugerz1992]

No drones good luck pal when someones not on the property ands its still over your land 😅

[@MarkGardiner-g2y]

Been following your endeavour from the start and I have learned a good few things along the way. I think your approach on your rules is sound for starting off, and you can always adjust as your experience in running your venue increases. Thanks for sharing your adventure,Ive enjoyed sharing your journey and truly wish you well for the future.👍

[@xix94]

Please show the new stuff inside the cabin ben

[@jimmyjimmy-k5c]

in theory the person should know weather they can get back from the far bank fast enough, i know i could get back quicker than he got out the cabin to be honest. all depends where the fish are though so you might not even need to get to the far bank

[@GKJ-FISHING]

Brilliant mate I’d have defo come out bare foot to save a few seconds haha… Would love to fish your lake one day, got plenty of fishing vids on my channel if you want to check them out, would love to film a vid there…… All the best - John

[@vincegibson6834]

its your fishery son, you make the rules, 99% of those that moaned will never be a customer of yours, good luck for the future ,hope its a roaring success for you, but peaceful too .👍

[@romeobalog8230]

Are u going to allow surface fishing with bread or dog biscuits

[@DANNY_01.]

can you do float fishing or carp fishing only

[@fuzzywasere]

What happens if they snap off, will they shed the hook??

[@prime1971]

perhaps I've gone blind but the gurtwings website doesn't actually list the locations ! other than just Swindon/Bristol etc postcodes or adresses would be handy!! would love to visit when I go see my sister in Swindon

[@benedictfowler]

Hi it definitely does! Hit the location page or alternatively check out gurt wings on instagram where we add the pitches to the story highlights! 😃

[@darrengill4765]

I've seen the damage a barbed hook can do. A chap on a local canal caught a Pike on barbed trebles. You wouldnt believe how much blood coming out of this fish.

[@twincamspit]

We fish for trout, pike and perch using lures (and occasionally deadbait in winter too) but EVERY treble book has been swapped for a needle-sharp barbless single hook on all our lures. Yes, we probably do lose more fish due to head-shakes and barbless single hooks than if we used barbed trebles but we 100% cause a hell of a lot less damage unhooking them, especially when they are deep hooked due to greed! Fish priority and them having a sporting chance takes priority here.

[@robbrownfield7677]

Presumably deep hooked. Exceptionally unlikely for a carp to be hooked in the throat.

[@twincamspit]

@@robbrownfield7677 Yes, carp tend to suck in and blow back out whereas the predators gulp things down. Saying that, I've unhooked a swallowed rusty hook from a carp as I commented elsewhere on this page. It is unusual though for a carp. There was no bait present so I don't know if it was a small bait and/or bread/spam that passed the initial suck & blow test so it swallowed it

[@darrengill4765]

@@robbrownfield7677 Yes, it was deep hooked. He was tugging at the treble a lot, which I assume is where the damage was done.

[@paulhayles]

Really should put some graphics on the patio doors, I can see someone running full on into a closed door!

[@benedictfowler]

Not a bad idea that Paul!

[@legacybaits1827]

Need a must have carp care rule. Need to ban the twig it’s bloody dangerous. Breaking strain only needs to be 12lb min. Take all rubbish home. Drinking kept to moderation No drugs to be used in the venue. Other than that good rules fella

[@citygentuk]

can you walk the bank with one rod and net ect to try stalk out a fish not bivvy up,,???

[@robgood719]

I guess that was the main rules then but good ones all the same nice to see you not hang Ali right away too 👏🏻👏🏻

[@xix94]

What happens if someone wees in the lake ?

[@ryandoherty6174]

No excessive, ott camouflage gear.....

[@darrenparker8359]

It's like a Mcdonalds advert. It's "A" pond not a lake.

[@grahamw6503]

Ya may wanna google what (the maximum distance is) is classed as leaving rods unattemded, the bed is probably further than it. Pretty sure its a law.

[@benjaminbreakell1552]

That's a by-law I came across last year, l don't think it's UK wide, bailiff told me no more than a rod's length away in his stab vest lol

[@KennyGillespie-tv9rn]

No fishing license required in Scotland at all can fish public water all you want

[@chrisisaacs7273]

how much are you charging per 24hr. wife and i would enjoy a relaxed session there with sensible rules. ps are you allowing baitboats to reach far banks for baiting as exclusive bookings.

[@lukedrew2043]

So have u only got 1 swim for the lake

[@xjordzx94s47]

Ben are adding other fish in the lake

[@dylansheridan4610]

2:58 I think it’s only England you need to have a rod license I live in Scotland and I have never heard of it here and if I did I’d snap it in front of them before they take it 😂😂

[@robbrownfield7677]

We don’t have a rod licence in Scotland. Instead, the Salmon boards take a levy from the salmon beats.

[@MrAndyS]

as it’s just a square with no features it don’t matter that it’s done 5 laps of the pond before you make you way out of bed to the swim 😂

[@theworkshopboxshop]

No swimming 😅 no drugs

[@Deekm69]

Not in Scotland I'm sure

[@theangryscotsman6423]

No rod license in Scotland

[@thomasward8498]

Think the rod licence is only england, dont need a rod licence in northern ireland unless its ea can fish the ocean complete licence free and private lakes etc etc

[@Mrchipsv2]

Will you add a few pegs as one peg ain't getting your money back any time soon

[@SelfMadeManiac]

We don't need a Rod License in Scotland bud. Unless fishing the Esk...which flows into England.

[@docgreen27]

Well, seeing as this lake isn't in Scotland yours is a moot point.

[@t3zza12345]

Peanut allergy, any other dietary requirements 😅

[@nickgoode8579]

You should state a line diameter in the rules rather than a breaking strain as they are pretty much meaningless. Also barbed or barbless hooks cause no more damage than each other in the fight. The issue is when you get tethered fish. It’s either a death sentence or horiffic mouth damage with a barbed hook then. It’s a common myth that barbless hooks cause damage stemming from the mouth damage match waters have.. fish that are caught daily on fine lines and hooks. All of the big fish barbless waters like gigantica etc have fish with perfect mouths

[@mrtidy]

No rod license required in Scotland mate.

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

Good job his lake isn't in Scotland then

[@stewartmercer19]

This lake is for local people.....isn't it Tubbs?

[@andyb8231]

fully paid up for a 3 rod license -- i paid online and never received a credit card license -- there will be many like me as well -- hmm -- this may be a deterrent if no checks can be done remotely... just a thought

[@shaunnewell1971]

They can check on the side of the bank with your details.

[@philapps3805]

Excellent set of rules

[@benedictfowler]

Glad you think so!

[@halfheard1]

just on the dogs rule, will you allow service dogs, as some of us need them for day to day life

[@stevehansler9014]

What about carp care kitts