Creationist DESTROYS BBC Interview!

[@terrydonegan1622]

Imagine creation having a creator? Incredible how blind the so called intelligent are

[@terrydonegan1622]

Animals are called 'Creatures' because they have a creator

[@sidarthur8706]

dawn is called 'sunrise' because the sun literally rises

[@garymoore2535]

I think you will find the Sun "appears" to rise soley due to the rotation of Earth........the term "Sun Rise" is another example of creationist error 😂😂😂 Devolution is proven however, the speaker has devolved from a Scotsman into an Australian ! 😂😂😂

[@1dionysos606]

In one language.

[@erichendriks2807]

That is about as much evidence there is in favour for a creation

[@mountkeen8701]

A certain fruit is called a pineapple but that doesn't mean to say it comes from a pine tree, or that it's an apple. Try again

[@CBess]

That old man is sharp as a knife, puts Biden to shame :p John Mackay is a great encouragement to me. May God bless him for not compromising on Genesis in the public square! Soli Deo gloria

[@mountkeen8701]

He engages in what is known as a "Gish Gallop" in which he attempts to overwhelm the interviewer by abandoning answering the question he's been asked and instead providing an excessive number of completely different arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments or their relevance to the question he's been asked. This technique is also known as Brandolini's law and frequently is referred to as "the bullshit asymmetry principle". That element of the technique also is referred to as spewing a firehose of falsehoods. So he's "sharp as a knife" only insofar as rather than providing honest and relevant answers he chooses to spew that firehose of falsehoods

[@liamamber87]

Amen. He's fantastic. God bless him.

[@vikingskuld]

He does a great job answering these questions. I'm amazed at his knowledge. Great video guys just wanted to say thanks

[@veronicabuxton1368]

Great interview

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

Time to replace the mythology of darwinism with the truth of creation through God.

[@mountkeen8701]

Which god would that be? There are lots to choose from.

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@mountkeen8701 it is logical that whoever created the world would also give the commandments that would produce the best results for his creation. We see the results produced by izlum, Hyndewizm has produced the cast system which allows for the violation of all kinds of human rights. Christ commands us to love God and love our neighbor as ourselves which has resulted in the most humane, most prosperous, most desirable places in the world. People actually flee from non-Christian nations and seek refuge in regions where the teachings of Christ are widely embraced for a reason: Christ makes life better for everyone. Please accept the best results; declare Jesus as your Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from death and you will be saved (Romans 10:9).

[@mountkeen8701]

@@refuse2bdcvd324 A Hindu would say that you're wrong. How would you demonstrate that your particular god "created the world" and not his?

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@mountkeen8701 I would say, logically speaking, it stands to reason that whichever God is intelligent and powerful enough to create a planet, and then populate that planet with human life would not doom certain humans to a life of abject poverty while others are lifted to a life of apathetic wealth as we see in the cast system. He would encourage us to love our neighbors as ourselves, to help the less fortunate so we can all experience the best existence possible. The true creator of a particular invention doesn't want his workmanship destroyed and decimated; he wants his workmanship to thrive and be the greatest benefit as possible. The cast system is the invention of a person who wants children in this world to suffer needlessly without hope of escape, not a wise creator.

[@mountkeen8701]

@@refuse2bdcvd324 I asked you how you would demonstrate that your particular god “created the world” and not Hindu god, but instead you’ve made additional claims about your god. Let me ask you once again in simpler language. If your god “created the world”, what empirical ( that means based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic) evidence would you provide that would clearly show the existence or truth of that claim through that evidence. So, try again.

[@opindras.bangerh129]

Thank you for the post Creation Research, this was excellent! Dr Mackay you answered the questions with the knowledge and grace, God has given you for the glory of his name. The reason why the opposing side does not want to answer the question, "if creation was true what would the evidence be?" is because they would have to admit, Design, DNA, etc points to special creation and not random chance.

[@jackthebassman1]

Where did “Dr” McKay obtain his doctorate and what is it in?

[@SillyDeity]

@@jackthebassman1 Good question and one that I note has not been answered by @opindras.bangerh129. Would it possibly be the case that "Dr" Mackay's isn't actually a doctor of anything?

[@DK-ss1vu]

The interviewer didn’t stand a chance. Creation is obvious and scientific.

[@jackthebassman1]

Oh really, on what do you base your claim?

[@DK-ss1vu]

@@jackthebassman1 science

[@jackthebassman1]

@DK-ss1vu Your qualifications? Better still submit your thesis for appraisal to the scientific community and await your summons from the Nobel committee to attend your award ceremony. Wait for the acclaim, fame and wealth to arrive.

[@SillyDeity]

Science has to be falsifiable. How would you falsify creation by a supernatural being?

[@TheUndiesrules]

It's not a debate, it's an interview

[@theinsectmanofwv]

“Evolution is more impossible than the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Headless Horseman.” Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo

[@mountkeen8701]

Mastropaolo was an example of an untalented, unqualified hack who wanted to ride the coattails of other people's reputations, and flailed wildly for attention before doing everyone a favour and popping his clogs.

[@terrydonegan1622]

Gavin throws the kitchen sink at John Mackay but spends this fight with his back on the ropes😮😮

[@COASTER-o2h]

Great interview to share in UK as many more people will give it a try as its on the TV [bbc].

[@TheJonnyzeus]

This Aussie has gone “beyond the black bush” a few times to many.

[@spalding1968]

That was a fantastic interview !! Best one I have seen yet .

[@zofe]

Darwin wrote in his book that he didN'T know where the species came from.

[@jimbothesailor4217]

So what? He also wrote that women were intellectually inferior. He wasn't right about everything, he didn't know everything and didn't claim to. He was a clever man that realised that all species are connected.

[@ThePhilosophiser]

Great answers

[@tomroncarelli6922]

For those with an ear to hear, this was an excellent "ear opener" of Biblical truth very well presented. Thank you.....😊

[@Weissguys6]

This was so great!!!

[@Loading....99.99]

I'm stunned by his wisdom!

[@jackthebassman1]

I’m stunned by his stupidity.

[@Loading....99.99]

@@jackthebassman1 i wouldn't go so far as to think the interviewer is stupid.

[@jackthebassman1]

@@Loading....99.99 Nor would I, the creationist either has no idea of how evolution works, or is deliberately misconstruing the science, modern man did not come from Neanderthal man, we are cousins, split from an earlier branch of ape. He keeps quoting “carbon dating”, that’s very misleading and he should know that there are several types of scientific dating methods if he really understands science as he claims. He obviously makes a living from the gullible and doesn’t want that to end.

[@jackthebassman1]

@@Loading....99.99 He clearly isn’t, to any rational person, he asks reasonable questions.

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

There are ways of picking holes in Darwin’s Theory. News to me! But Evolution is no longer merely Darwin’s theory, it is the theory that underpins modern biology. We know an awful lot more than Science did in Darwin’s day and evidence for evolution has been gathered at an ever increasing rate. So far no evidence has seriously challenged it, though in theory a single fossil could bring it down.

[@creationresearch]

Glad to hear we can be of help, bringing new revelation to you. Would you be able to give an example of the type of fossils you would accept that would ‘bring down evolution’?

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

@creationresearch There are so many, off the top of my head, how about a pre-Cambrian mammalian fossil.

[@mountkeen8701]

@@psychologicalprojectionist Funny that @creationresearch has gone all quiet on providing a pre-Cambrian mammalian fossil eh? 😎

[@mmaimmortals]

What an incredible opportunity. God is good.

[@MountKeen]

Except that he apparently condones slavery, genocide, infanticide, selling your daughters, etc. etc. That's "good"??

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

So his argument is 1:25 It hasn't been observed whilst it's been happening. Let me see, can anyone think of a reason why modern scientists haven't been able to directly observe a 4 billion year process that happened across a planet? Meanwhile I want him and his logic in the jury if I am ever in the dock for murder.😂

[@jackthebassman1]

Like all these bible literalists the religious person is very selective when quoting his silly, Bronze Age book; he mentions the Canaanites being very bad people for not believing in “god” so “god” wiped them out - even the innocent babies and toddlers I presume. In my experience as a once church goer the scriptures were read to us very selectively, leaving out the unpleasant stuff. And as for his claim that more and more scientists are accepting creationism is pure bullshit, these religious bigots make up their own “alternative facts”, you know, they LIE.

[@Loading....99.99]

@@jackthebassman1 are you an evolutionist?

[@jackthebassman1]

@@Loading....99.99 I'm a realist

[@AP-di6gu]

Legend.

[@johansteyn59]

Brilliant!

[@mountkeen8701]

Firstly you haven't been "banned by the BBC" Secondly, you didn't "destroy" the interviewer Thirdly, MacKay made a number of demonstrable falsehoods in the first few minutes. You guys are really hopeless.

[@coffeeandbytes9854]

They're professional liars, and they're allowed to get away with it.

[@77WATERSTONE]

This guy is the classic proponents of "we don't know so god did it. Typical user of god of the gaps excuse.

[@beetsar]

Not sure what he destroyed but he gave a tour de force of soupy nonsense with a soupcon of the usual misinformed theist drivel.

[@jayleyland7912]

Great Video

[@jackthebassman1]

This character either has no idea of how evolution works or intentionally denies science.

[@Loading....99.99]

@@jackthebassman1 he doesn't have enough imagination.

[@wholiddleolme476]

If evolution is change, and change is good, as being suggested by Gavin Esler in this interview. Maybe he'd like to explain how going from the cradle to the grave is good? That is certainly change as anyone knows it is, but the only thing the change evolves into is DUST.

[@mountkeen8701]

You've never heard of passing your DNA on via children? Oh dear, I guess you skipped sex education.

[@MountKeen]

You mean to say that your life hasn't been good and you've never heard of passing your genes on through your children? How odd!

[@wholiddleolme476]

@@MountKeen Is that what I wrote? Obviously not! What you are attempting to do, quite unsuccessfully I'll add, is suggest that the current generation is more evolved than it's previous generations. But, let's look at a few facts about this so called more evolved generation shall we: Men who think they are women, men who want to copulate with other men, politicians who'll lie right to your face, women killing their babies because it's fashionable to do so. That's just a handful of EVOLUTIONARY traits which can only result in destruction, I could go on all day throwing things at you but if you're so ignorant as to not understand just how dumb Darwin's theory is, then I'm wasting my time anyway.

[@sidarthur8706]

what does 'devolution' mean? a reduction in complexity? he's talking about evolution and implying natural selection

[@ThePhilosophiser]

Yes devolution means a decline in the functional complexity of DNA. Natural selection like deliberate selection is a process of eliminating poor characteristics in DNA. Evolution is a term that has various meanings but at its core simply means change over time. When relating to the belief system of evolutionism it means defects in the DNA replication process that result in beneficial changes. So natural selection is about survival of the fittest but has nothing to do with explaining the arrival of the fittest.

[@Pyr0Ben]

It makes sense. For example, I've heard that rattlesnakes in my area might lose their rattles. I don't know if that's true, probably not, but even if they did, that's not evolution. They wouldn't have miraculously gained a new structure, they've lost one. To take such an example and claim that it somehow demonstrates Darwinian bottom-up evolution is nonsense. No one debates whether natural selection exists, but the fact is, random mutations can't do what you need them to do to write terabytes upon terabytes of intelligible informational code.

[@sidarthur8706]

@Pyr0Ben you don't inherit your physical characteristics, you inherit genes and it's those that gain information when something evolves. i don't know about rattlesnakes losing their tails. but when dinosaurs became birds they lost their teeth. this seems like a loss of information but it's actually due to more information having been added. birds still have the genes for growing teeth which is why birds sometimes grow teeth. they also have new genes that inactivate their tooth growing genes, more information resulted in the loss of a physical trait

[@P.H.888]

No, you are redefining the word meaning! Evolution ~ upwards Devolution ~ downwards Complete opposites! Q how can anything develop upwards from chaos to order!? No, all the evidence is from order to chaos From life to death Life doesn’t come from nonlife

[@ToothbrushMan]

He doesn't gove a straight answer to any questipn, but constantly appeals to the "Bible is the truth" canard.

[@Acontinuist]

Another atheists bites the dust!

[@P.H.888]

Q example of life from nonlife God is The Eternal Spirit.

[@MarcoH72]

🤦‍♂️

[@douglasmilton2805]

No need to use all those letters writing out the word ‘creationist’. Just take out the a, the o, and the ist. There you go.

[@mickwful]

Is this meant to be serious ?

[@04Redeemed]

that the best you can do?

[@chriswinchell1570]

He’s a farce. Friend of snelling who’s the biggest phony ever.

[@jayleyland7912]

The question of someone who has nothing to say.

[@chriswinchell1570]

@@jayleyland7912 it’s quite clear to me. Mackay is not a serious scientist and is instead a shill for fundamentalist nincompoopery. Take any claim and in 5 minutes you can educate yourself about why that claim is nonsensical. On the other hand, there is no scholarship supporting mackay’s malarkey. Zippo. He’s a carnival barker.

[@1dionysos606]

Creationist and creationism should not get any public space. Creationism is proofed wrong so many times but not single time correct.

[@creationresearch]

And your spelling needs proofing, yet you seem to be ok using a public space to voice incoherent comments…🤔

[@1dionysos606]

@@creationresearch I'm sorry that I have dyslexia and English is not my first language. However it doesn't change the fact that creationism is false truth.

[@creationresearch]

@@1dionysos606 So, do you have any actual objections to what was presented by John, or are you just going to be making un-based absolute statements?

[@1dionysos606]

@@creationresearch as I said every creationist should be silenced. Creationism is not an opinion or scientific it's religious nonsense without any actual proof. This video doesn't change that fact and that reporter was bad just letting him to speak about this subject.

[@creationresearch]

@@1dionysos606 So, no then. Seems as you simply have an emotional response to the evidence for creation, not any actual objections. Thanks for your input though.

[@luisdeleon9819]

He almost sounds intelligent. I admire the interviewer.

[@MaximilianonMars]

The interviewer sounds like a typical loser atheist while on camera but changes his tune once he's off the air. Interesting. Atheists cannot have the truth enter their minds because they are weak and afraid. When you search for the Truth diligently with all your heart, then you can mock. Until you have the guts to do that your opinion is worthless.

[@richardlouistownson769]

Sorry, this guy hardly DESTROYS the interviewer. He's a snake-oil salesman. Doesn't answer the questions. Brings up questionable biblical references and is actually quite aggressive. What else is he going to bring out of his pockets? God?

[@04Redeemed]

How is he aggressive? did he say things that offended you? lmao

[@PortmanRd]

Offensive? As opposed to comically deluded?

[@04Redeemed]

what would you know? not much going by your comment anyway.@@PortmanRd

[@PortmanRd]

Enough to know that Creationism will never influence modern thinking or even be a worldwide belief. It's an archaic, antiquated religion than belongs in the Dark Ages.

[@CBess]

What interview were you watching? He answered every question asked, even added details for some too 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@terrydonegan1622]

A man and a banana share 50% dna!!

[@1000whispering]

It's actually about 1% of our DNA but about 50% of our genes.

[@Pyr0Ben]

And people and bananas need to produce many of the same proteins and complete many of the same functions to live.

[@rialobran]

Flat Earth society makes this dude seem reasonable. Baby dinosaurs were on Noah's boat...OMFG! Lol

[@KevinB-pd3me]

Perfectly sensible and safe way to transport dinosaurs.

[@svarog63]

@@KevinB-pd3me LOL

[@garymoore2535]

I can just see Moses now herding a male and female T Rex up the gang plank......"come by, come by" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@lorel51]

​@@garymoore2535 You astound me with your biblical knowledge sir

[@garymoore2535]

I know what you are thinking......why wasn't it Noah herding the T Rex's up the gang plank ? Noah was out searching for catnip, a tricky task in the middle east, in order to make the Sabre Tooth Tigers more compliant for loading. Have you ever tried herding cats without catnip ? No I thought not........😂😂😂

[@PortmanRd]

Destroys BBC interview? 😂😅

[@PortmanRd]

@@heralduk5839 I must've been watching a different video.

[@PortmanRd]

@@heralduk5839 Yeah! I remember now it was 'Noah's Ark Debunked'

[@stephenking4170]

THe idea that creation originally had only herbivorous animals. This is a weak deduction from a couple of Genesis verses. However the obvious design of carnivorous animals and the ecological concept of population control, ecology and trophic levels all state the obvious. One does need to check what is written in the scriptures against what is written in God's nature to verify what is true. Earlier fathers had to do this after the telescope was invented and the movement of the earth around the sun established.

[@lieslceleste3395]

Anyone who knows any science can see that neither the interviewer nor the interviewee are educated in any field of science. The questions make little sense because he did no research and the answers are nonsense.

[@MyNameMeansGiftFromGod]

Evotardism is not science. If you knew the scientific method, you would know this.

[@aaronclark8877]

John Mackay has is studied in geology (which is a science), and knows this field very well. To say he is uneducated is notbaccurate. The conversation did not lead to that being questioned.

[@lieslceleste3395]

@@aaronclark8877 He did not know what he was talking about for much of the interview. He is certainly welcome to publish his thinky thoughts in a peer reviewed journal though. Do you think we’ll see that any time soon?

[@mmaimmortals]

I suppose we will have to reject this opinion (the OP) since it does not appear in a peer reviewed science journal.

[@lieslceleste3395]

@@mmaimmortals Opinions are like a……everyone has one. Write a peer reviewed paper. That’s how it’s done. If you want to know about Mackey, you should look up snelling. The two wrote a few papers together in the early 80s. After that Mackay wasn’t that important because his credentials aren’t impressive but snelling went on to lead a double life of publishing real science that completely contradicted his YEC schtick. That’s essentially mackay’s MO: He knows better but can’t make a living as a geologist. Neither of those two guys believe much of what their saying. It’s merely a paycheck. And , as far as anything outside of geology, mackay is completely ignorant.

[@sidarthur8706]

straight away he's lying. when did dawkins claim that 'evolution has never been observed happening'? if dawkins did really say that then he's wrong, he's not the authority, the facts are

[@mountkeen8701]

Dawkins actually stated, "Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening." in a 2004 TV interview with journalist Bill Moyers, but of course his statement was taken out of context by dishonest creationists like Mackay, and of course in the intervening 20 years science has moved on (unlike creationism). Evolution *HAS* been observed both in the wild and in laboratories (the long-running Lenski experiments with e-coli for example).

[@bengreen171]

this man is talking nonsense.

[@Loading....99.99]

@@bengreen171 i agree, for someone who seem so intelligent believing in evolution.

[@bengreen171]

@@Loading....99.99 evolution is the best attested biological fact we have,

[@DrWrapperband]

Great you creationalists telling God how she did it. Sure she'll love it.

[@creationresearch]

Paganism will get you nowhere.

[@jayleyland7912]

And all because you have nothing to say...........

[@Pyr0Ben]

respect God's preferred pronouns