Creator of 2000AD & Judge Dredd Talks Catholic Church Sexual Abuse | IICSA: AEM #76 Patrick Mills

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

🌱🌏💚 KiaOra from New Zealand. Creator of 2000AD. Oh wow. 😮 This is going to be a VERY interesting discussion! I'm looking forward to it! See you then!

[@richardrickford3028]

What isn't talked about with the catholic church and some other churches is that forcing or emotionally blackmailing an adult into being celibate is as much sexual abuse as forcing them to take part in a sexual relationship they do not want. If an adult chooses to be celibate and has a good and healthy mechanism for rediverting the sex drive then that is something different. But enforced celibacy - which happened to so many priests and monks and nuns throughout the ages and very probably still happens sometimes is sexual abuse.

[@lemsip207]

Yes, one leads to the other, but recently, it has been found to have been happening in the Church of England too where there is less enforced celibacy, though. Gay men and unmarried heterosexual men are required to be celibate, though. Also, there is the grooming of the victims from an early age as they are taught not to have personal boundaries and to be assertive towards older people and people in authority.

[@richardrickford3028]

This is a point that is so obvious I think some people miss it. But a responsible adult needs to monitor what nick-names schoolchildren give their teachers and other adults in responsible positions. Sometimes these can have sexual allusions and this should ring an alarm bell for action. Either the teacher could be up to something in which case there needs to be a sane and rational enquiry - or the children perhaps because the teacher is eccentric are indulging in untrue inuendo when they are not an abuser - which is a situation that needs to be sorted out in itself before the reputation of the teacher is tarnished. I think sometimes some teachers are too wary to act in such a situation or they are just desperately hoping someone else is going to do something. Or they feel if their whistle blowing fails they could be the ones in trouble.

[@lemsip207]

We had private nicknames for teachers that were based on music rather than sexual. There was Mr Gedersky, pronounced with a hard G, the chemistry teacher. Children of 11 to 13 couldn't remember how to pronounce his name so referred to him as Ged with a soft G. Then my brother told me that some in his class had privately called him Ged Zeppelin after Led Zeppelin. There was also Alan Print who was nicknamed the Alan Print Set after the Alan Price Set. Also Ern the Lip who had a habit of moving his lower lip over his upper lip when in concentration.

[@lemsip207]

"No such thing as a free lunch" says it all. We get taught not to look a gift horse in the mouth and also to beware of Greeks bearing gifts. These two sayings contradict each other. I read in a book by Dorothy Rowe not to accept a present unless you feel absolutely sure that you won't accept the strings attached with them. You owe them nothing in return especially if badgered into accepting the present, refreshments, party invite or favour on offer that you either didnt want or were wary of.