Creed - With Arms Wide Open (REACTION/REVIEW!) (HATED BANDS MARATHON!) Ep: #2

[@analogblues]

The line that says, "If I have just one wish, only one demand, I hope he's not like me," kills me everytime. This is a beautiful song. Forget the haters. This song is amazing.

[@johnabbottphotography]

It destroys me, every time. Had tears in my eyes this time, even though I knew it was coming up.

[@mudcast]

Is that about a father speaking about a son?

[@sesh517]

@@mudcast yes the song is from the point of view of a father speaking to his newly born son.

[@wilm567]

@5:05 is my all time best youtube reation. Thanks fells😂

[@chinruiz4113]

This song was hated because it was 1- overplayed, 2- all the yarling, 3- the topic of the song: People at the time weren't open to a rockstar being vulnerable and insecure of being a father. Personally, this song gives me goosebumps every time. I grew up with these "hated" bands, and they opened up the doors for heavier music for me.

[@jametowne]

MY MAN COULDN'T MAKE IT 4 WORDS 😭😭😭

[@montefuller1]

🤣

[@lambro3001]

How in the world is your, and a few other comments, 1 month old on a video that dropped today?? What sort of black magic is this

[@olivergoodwin1348]

@@lambro3001 it comes out on patreon first

[@lambro3001]

@@olivergoodwin1348 Ohhhh that makes sense, thanks

[@riffhousestudios96]

Broooo 😂😂😂

[@alexharo6872]

My brother lost his first son years ago weeks before his birth, at the funeral he was calm, all day he was calmed, stoic and focused, the next week i went to his home, didn't saw him anywhere, i heard noise coming from a room in the backyard, i walked, opened the door but he never knew i was there because of the loud music, he was listening to THIS song. My big brother, strong and big as an oak, crying, broken and on his knees. I didnt said anything, didnt called him, nothing, i just closed the door and let him be and went back home pretty shocked and sad. Since that day on i couldnt listen to this song anymore. Hell, i even had to skip this video because of the memories it brings to me. Anyways, nice video guys, see you in the next one 🤘

[@NativeNewMexican]

My ex miscarried at a very late stage too and this song kills me.

[@alexharo6872]

@@NativeNewMexican Damn, sorry to hear that, man. I know what you mean.

[@greglamm5986]

I get it. My youngest daughter was born just a few months before this song came out. Last year, I became a grandfather for the first time. As soon as this song started, tears filled my eyes. The lyrics, man, wow.

[@paulfederal1217]

Thanks for sharing that, it was deep. Yes this song plays an important part on people’s lives.

[@lucaswallo8127]

That's so sad

[@daddynuggz8994]

Thank you George for sticking up for Creed. The world forgets that Mark Tremonti created music they hate.

[@lougallucci86]

It's noticable that a lot of these 'hated' bands came around in the late 90s / early 00s. It was mostly due to the merging of all the radio stations into top 40 crapshows and MTV blasting TRL and shit. This song and others like it were just inescapable. Imagine if Spotify automatically put this into all your playlists twice for every hour of music you listened to and didn't let you skip it. You'd start to hate it real quick too.

[@lougallucci86]

I agree with you, 22 years later this sounds great. Kinda generic, but definitely listenable.

[@SpicyTrifongo]

Telecom act of 1996 ruined everything from pop music to news reporting.

[@joeg1709]

100% agree

[@bradwine228]

Well, that combined with the bandwagon effect is what caused the hate to begin with really. Everyone got tired of hearing it, so the people that complained from the start were 'vilified' and it became "oh he hates this band, and I'm getting tired of them, maybe he's right and they actually do suck". Then it snowballed because "If this many people hate the band/song then they must be right, it must be awful."

[@livingroomsuperstar]

damn what a good point. I remember hearing an Alicia Keys song played so much I was tired of it - and Alicia Keys is fire

[@TheGrooby3]

I grew up listening to Rock and Metal and still to this day don't understand the Creed hate. I think they made a lot of really good music.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

I understand the hate for Creed, I just don't agree with it. It's like when you've got a good friend with a punchable face. Like yeah, you like him, and you're not gonna hit him, but when someone else wants you, it's not like ya don't GET it....

[@regor5150]

Blame the radio. They played them SO MUCH that everyone got sick of them.

[@photobombchamp]

Same same… I guess I can see some people disliking the singers personal views and what not but the band was solid

[@ryanwillis338]

i love rock and grunge. i absolutely am shocked at the hate for this band. its irrational. i wonder if it is the religious undertones. thats the only thing i can think of. my own prison is one of my fave albums period. so 90s and not emulating anybody.

[@DarkReaper898]

It's generic radio trash. Scott's voice is absolutely terrible.

[@jacoblatora235]

Love this song, as far as lyrics and delivery “My Own Prison” is my favorite song of theirs

[@maphyous228]

That entire album is great.

[@gst013]

Good lord...seek professional help 😅

[@ChrissieHill]

Me too...love 'My Own Prison' 'One' song def didn't care for.

[@donnamignemi]

My Own Prison is INCREDIBLE!

[@chrisgomez860]

This song reminds me so much of when I found out I was pregnant. I was 16 years old and my family hated me because I wouldn't get rid of the baby. 26 years later and I don't regret the fight I put up. She was and still is worth it.

[@Supermylo0]

I don't know you but Im proud of you. In my religion , there is a verse that says ... Whoever save a human life is like he saved the all humans on earth. You saved a life ! God bless you darling

[@kingmcarter]

I actually enjoy this song. The entire album is actually fire. The lead singer of Creed can really sing.

[@ItaiFranklin]

If I can give my 2 cents on why people hate Creed, and Nickelback for the same matter - I think they represent the edge-less, sterile, superficial, "safe" and no-surprises kind of rock that stayed in the charts while rock music as a whole started losing it's grip on mainstream music. For my taste, these bands aren't bad, they're just boring and predictable. They never challenge the listner's ear neither musically nor lyrically. The production is very polished, never taking you places you didn't think they'll go. No risks... no danger... no... rock.

[@mattj6244]

To me, this song is adult contemporary rock-like Michael Bolton with guitars; same brand of contrived, heavy-handed melodrama, repackaged for the post-grunge market. It feels like it's trying too hard to elicit my emotions without giving me anything artistically interesting or creative to inspire a sincere feeling in me. It's just kind of... Fine. Inoffensive. It's well produced, sure ("sounds good"), but something something lipstick on a pig.

[@justjeff600]

You hit it right on the head.

[@Fawkes318]

I will argue for Nickelback... in that they have alot of heavy songs that are pretty damn good. But I have to agree in that they are formulaic. I don't know what point I'm trying to get across other than that they're a good band. That's it. I like them.

[@JJRON]

Nobody hates creed

[@stewartdowouis9218]

Yep. The radio was focusing on this sterile genetic grunge-less post-grunge devoid of genuine artistry all the while the next wave of exciting cutting-edge rock they should have been focusing on was getting no attention.

[@guitarwizard987]

"what if" and "my own prison" are very much more "metal" that whole first creed album is really good

[@betsdakreator]

What if was good

[@BigWillyStyles13]

Vouching for My Own Prison

[@mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028]

@@betsdakreator except for the glam video lol. But yeah the song is good.

[@esmechanics8691]

One is good or torn

[@boydmullins6709]

Do more creed! I always loved them despite catching shit for it! 😂

[@MsAlliwannadoisdance]

Besides Scott Stapp's antics, people were just SICK of this sound by the end of the 90s. There were a million "Pearl Jam Clone" bands blasted on the radio ad nauseum. Musically, Creed may have aged better than the rest.

[@billymuellerTikTok]

Yeah but Pearl Jam is a clone of stuff that came out before them too.

[@jek4837]

Except they weren't a Pearl Jam clone at all. Vedder and Stapp both have baritone voices and the yarl. That's where the similarities end. Unless you want to say they both used electric guitars and drums.

[@billhicks8]

@@jek4837 The hammered-on circular style playing of the notes, the tendency of the "yarl" matched with balladic anthemic choruses ("Black" by Pearl Jam seems to be the father of all these post grunge radio ballads). The tendency of the heavier songs on an album to having McCready-style wah pedalling. I think there are plenty more similarities tbh.

[@snakedoctor5397]

If Stapp was trying to mimic anyone i believe it would have been Jim Morrison, Stapp's idol.

[@AndDeathForAll82]

That’s because musically, they’re Alter Bridge… god tier musicians.

[@caley1995]

People started to hate Creed because it became popular to hate Creed. They are actually an amazing band with not one bad song, in my opinion. People also seem to forget they used to be the biggest band in the world. Especially with times like now, more people are coming around and realizing that their music is in fact, really fucking good 👍 Their numbers don’t lie 😊

[@rafx2014]

Man, I used to hate this song in my teenage years... but now, as I've recently become a father of a beautiful baby girl, this takes a whole new meaning for me. Thanks guys for showing me the way, hahah

[@rocker966627]

Yeah I’m right with ya. I haven’t heard this song in years, maybe since way back when Creed had reunited and tried to be a band again. But now having a 3 year old daughter and just really taking in the lyrics, this spoke to me in a whole new way. It’s actually a beautiful song with beautiful lyrics.

[@lucaswallo8127]

oh thats cool

[@B-Ran_the_Man]

Now that you have been introduced to their biggest mainstream song, you have to go back to hear anything from their first album My Own Prison. Nearly every song on that album is a banger! 6+ million album sales for a debut album can back that up

[@Smithr1989]

My Own Prison is my favorite song by Creed.

[@ThePaJomaster]

I'm glad Mark Tremonti found his musical 'soulmate' in Myles Kennedy, one of the best songwriting duos out there. Alter Bridge is such an amazing band. Once again I'm requesting the song Words Darker Than Their Wings (Live at the Royal Albert Hall), showing that Myles is one of the few singers that is better live than on the album!

[@ThomasTallant]

Let me say... I was stunned at how good Alter Bridge are. BUT. I'm a snob... It sounds like the best 80's metal band I've ever heard. NOT hating. Love them. But I don't reach to put it on. Skill for miles. One song I'm too lazy to look up floored me. Proggy.

[@dheezknutz]

Great song but do study version, not live.

[@Killerofdemons666]

metalingus is a epic song!

[@ajs8873]

@@Killerofdemons666 Edge!!

[@Killerofdemons666]

@@ajs8873 yup even his new song THE OTHER SIDE is by Altar Bridge and is a banger

[@davidmatheny1993]

I think the one similarity you could find in Limp Bizkit and Creed is that I don't think many hate the purely instrumental side of the music. Mark Tremonti and Wes Borland are both great guitar players. The main issue people have with each is the persona and lyrics of the lead singers. Fred Durst is a clown, and Scott had serious demons to face while lyrically acting as a Bono-esque figure. Alter Bridge does not get enough credit for making an even stronger band from what was Creed.

[@keefriff99]

Yup, you 100% nailed it. Durst and Stapp were both INSUFFERABLE back in the day. I remember so many people in the late '90s/early '00s saying, "If only the instrumental sections of those bands would ditch Fred and Scott, I'd listen to their music."

[@ericatheredhead3344]

and right on with Alter Bridge. Such great chemistry between the band and the songs are amazing

[@michaeldoyle189]

This comment needs to get pinned. Nailed it. I'm not a fan of Alter Bridge either. But that's just a matter of my musical taste. Not hate. Mark Tremonti is an underrated guitar player though.

[@baciu14]

@@michaeldoyle189 im so glad tremonti formed his own band also. They have a really good sound

[@DownUFO]

Let’s not forget Limp Bizkit’s bassist. Rearranged’s bassline has no business being so smooth

[@jspencer3088]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you a million times. I will never apologize for LOVING Creed. This song is beautiful. All 3 of their albums are solid rock albums. The band absolutely does NOT deserve the hate.

[@jasondoolin6476]

*4 🤘🏻

[@KristheAbyss]

I've been watching you guys since you were first listening to metal. And its so fucking cool to see you guys start talking shop about rock history and other bands. I fucking love this channel.

[@davidwarnock236]

Like you both have said, it's good!!! Now imagine hearing it 75 times per day on just about every radio station... Torn, My Own Prison, One, Are You Ready are all bangers. 🤘

[@Fuhrdaddy]

Wrong way... beautiful... they had a lot of bangers lol

[@N0mrcy4U]

Bingo! It's not that we hated/hate Creed, it's the fact that the radio stations played them every 5 minutes.

[@bobc538]

I love Creed. But this song suffers from over exposure. "One" is a favorite.

[@Briceh700]

Torn has a crazy sound that I love

[@MadMattAllen]

dont forget "what if?"

[@HugoMechE]

Hey now. Creed was great. "What If" was my jam when they debuted. I'm glad the guys even found success forming Alter Bridge.

[@danielkelley9861]

"What if" came on a few weeks back and I was rocking with it. I was like, "Okay Creed, you got me with this one."

[@angelone1839]

Also Creed- Bullets. Badass jam!

[@Jonathan-gj1rl]

Creed is your standard for greatness?

[@rcadventuresoffical]

What if is great!

[@DahliaOlive]

Oh man. I love “What If”.

[@Corndog642]

The first song I heard by Creed was My Own Prison. One of my favorites, which is a total banger, is Bullets.

[@regor5150]

My Own Prison was a great album. Everything that came after was so-so.

[@danieljantz913]

Bullets is sick

[@verse8833]

Bullets is 🔥

[@atbender89]

Yes Bullets was on my workout playlist for so long. Such energy.

[@Hawksandlagers]

Bullets doesn’t have business being as hard as it is

[@barryvercueil2346]

I freaking love this song. Heard it in the early 2000s. And here is South Africa there was never a hate for this band. Surprised to hear about it now.

[@TheeTSC]

Hi. I'm South African too, born in 2004 and discovered Creed in 2020(After ALTER BRIDGE)...was Creed ever a thing in SA, in a way that they played it ok radio stations?

[@anthonyanselmi6518]

It's mostly because people really hated post-grunge, IMO. Grunge was dark, raw, and down.... Post grunge flipped it, and made it "sappy", and "corny" (at times). Grunge lovers couldn't relate to lyrics all too much. I actually like this song, and makes me think of when my first born arrived in this world.

[@__-bc4bs]

Grunge scene wasn’t very healthy crowd, bunch of sarcastic, edgy cunts that competed over who could be most hipster, ended up in heroine abuse and suicides, so when Creed came around with a healthy positive outlook the scene fealt threatened.

[@troysuza2065]

Creeds first album is a damn near masterpiece of rock, y'all need to check it out. Ode, My Own Prison, Torn, One, it's all good

[@prelude1218]

This.

[@Swollen_Goat]

agreed. My Own Prison is one of my favorite 90s albums.

[@TheRedWaltz24]

I was thinking the same thing. It is an album I can listen to on repeat and it is the best of their work.

[@inframundo1919]

Human clay is a really good album

[@AtomicSteve7]

That first album rocked hard

[@Soonopen1979]

Creed was loved when they came out. Somewhere along the line it became hip to hate on them and rock bands with mainstream success. Scott Stapp had a reputation of being a douche that may have factored in as well. Nu Metal also came in around this time and took over the airways from the post-grunge crowd. Creed, 3 Doors Down, Puddle of Mudd, and bands like that faded away within five years of hitting it big.

[@_bats_]

Don't forget Staind!

[@lez0n]

Creed and Staind were pretty much hated in the music community from day one. They just sounded formulaic and overly sentimental. Just very meh. Kind of like Nickelback.

[@gawura]

@@_bats_ Staind became formulaic quickly, but that first album had some really heavy songs. Most of the pushback against bands like Staind and Creed (and even Nickeback) was the oversaturation of their power ballad songs. Compare Mudshovel to It's Been Awhile or What If to With Arms Wide Open. The typical Creed or Staind songs are far closer to the former than the later.

[@andysalter7192]

It was mocked even back then for the voice .

[@rodpasichnyk9140]

100%

[@jametowne]

Another big reason for the hate on Creed is there's a lot of resentment for Christian Rock not "staying in its lane"

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

Can you please give some examples of your claims? I was there too at this time in the Rock world, and I remember what you're talking about, but I don't remember Creed being involved at all.

[@mikemcguire3041]

There was definitely some resentment due to them being very religious. I recall it well.

[@jametowne]

@@djjazzyjeff1232 just that people knew they were a band heavy on faith themes, called Creed, with wholesome lyrics topping the charts, and those of us (I was a kid) who thought that was BS and were into more "dangerous" bands were mad about it

[@APAL880]

Creed was before my time but that's gotta be a huge part of the hate. Unfortunately, musicians lose all credibility as artists the moment they stop spewing degenerate nihilism and/or leftist anarchy. I'm Christian and I'm guilty of dismissing this type of music myself.

[@RunsLikeMays]

I don't think it's as much about the Christian Themes as much as Scott Stapp was exposed as a fraud. He preached a "holier than thou" existence, and with the sex tape, drug use affecting live shows and fighting other bands, his facade was exposed.

[@ugomarsolais]

This song still gives me goosebumps and teary-eyed every time. I couldn't stop listening to it when my first son was born. When he hit 18 years-old, me and my wife made a video collage of him since the very beginning and this song featured right from the start of this video.

[@richtigersoan]

I didn't get the hate 🤷🏼‍♂️ The song was beautifully done

[@mattiefee]

Once again, just like limp bizkit, I believe this band suffers mainly because of their front man. The message of their music mainly along the lines of Christianity , which there is nothing wrong with that. However lifestyle, hypocrisy and personality of the front man plays into the hatred for this band.

[@BoredAndSarcastic]

I agree completely. Scott Stapp personality and hypocrisy was the issue for me. Alter Bridge is my favorite band, lol, huge upgrade from Stapp to Myles Kennedy. Thr other reason is the mainstream success and how often you had to hear the song. When a song is overplayed it usually brings haters

[@jamesallen5250]

I was just getting ready to say the same thing, his drug use and other antics played a huge role in how Creed was perceived.

[@wakaman94]

I grew up listening to creed. Haven’t listened to them in years but man this song always puts a smile on my face. I’ll never understand the hate for them and other bands. Good music is good music at the end of the day and that’s all I care about

[@DimiusG]

For a 'hated' band, Creed had some of the most success as a band during their time, and in my opinion their music has aged really well. Definitely listen to "What If", "Torn", and "Bullets" by Creed. Also, glad the bandmates were able to link up with Myles Kennedy and form the legendary Alter Bridge. Mark Tremonti's solo project is also kickass 🤘

[@Retrorevelations]

Don't forget "Ode" and "My Own Prison".

[@paulfederal1217]

To me this is such a beautiful song , so heartfelt . Such beautiful lyrics and the guitar playing is amazing by Tremonti. For those that hate on it there are so much more music to hate on go find it there. And ok I must admit I bought this CD the day it was released and loved it even when I was going to hardcore and metal shows . To this day still love the first album and What If.

[@jboles588]

Never knew creed got hate... I mean yeah they had songs that were definitely overplayed, but they also have songs that are really good that I never heard on the radio. Good music, just too much air time. I can still listen to them today, but not constantly. Definitely enjoy having them in my 90s/2000s playlist

[@ajconvert]

I listened to this with my sons who were in their late teens and early twenties when this song came out They were very much in this scene. They never got to the point that they hated Creed but understand why others did. They believe that the big issue was Stapp's alcohol abuse and domestic issues. This was compounded by being based originally on the periphery of Christian music and the perception of hypocrisy regarding Stapp's behavior. Finally, they were post grunge and accused of taking the elements of grunge and sanitizing it. My sons had never seen you guys. They liked what you did and the idea behind it. They are going to find more from you and watch you some more. Great video!

[@tomtanaka841]

this is a great comment!

[@greghicks5960]

Excellent analysis.

[@andersekman8378]

I’m a hater, and you forced me to question why. I’m gonna give this a shot: First of all, this was pushed so hard on rock radio, so if you don’t like it you’re gonna end up hating it. And why didn’t I like it? They took the grunge sound, polished up the production, took the dark/rebellious aspects out and made it wholesome. I guess that just rubbed me the wrong way. And this is the first I’ve ever posted about it. I don’t like to spend time and energy on negativity either. But you asked!

[@juggydizzle911]

You could have just said they suck!

[@PadreMortalis]

@@juggydizzle911 yeah, but that's an opinion with no explanation. This dude explained why.

[@DaveDuncanMusic]

Solid input, makes sense.

[@clivemerritt]

@ghost mall bands have been ripping off other bands styles for generations and it will literally never stop, it should be looked at as a mark of respect, Creed came out whilst grunge was absolutely massive, they weren’t going to come out sounding like Motley Crue were they.

[@mothpig]

Post-grunge was just grunge with all the good bits removed. Limp, soulless middle of the road garbage. You were right the first time.

[@VGKDean]

I’ve always liked this song. I liked Creed but I haven’t listened to them in years. So thank you. The lyrics are beautiful too.

[@jonbauman457]

If you have a critical ear you can immediately recognize good music in any genre and this band immediately sparked my ear for quality sound writing and atmosphere. This is their biggest hit but my favorite song is Higher. But every song on this album has some touch and uniqueness to it and it gets very heavy.

[@shellyvine44]

Creed (for ME at least) was a... perfect storm. In my city (Central FL, where they are ALSO from) they were eeeverywhere. Then, they were everywhere on the radio...every radio, every station. It would come on one station, flip the channel- then it was JUST beginning on THAT station. Then, because the lead singer was a mess, he would preach to you about needing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior, then cheat on his wife...or THEN get totally hammered and start fights, or pass out, or what have you. It was this odd mixture of an inescapable song, with a VERY narcissistic front man who was the epitome of do as I say not as I do. It really altered the entire trajectory of the entire band. For me. This is all my own perspective. Many people here shunned him, his wife left, and the band was collateral damage. He kind of self imploded. Just, all around yucky. I don't get warm and fuzziness or think it's beautiful, although I can Understand that. He really came to be known as a hypocrite (here, at least) and just kind of an all around dick, who also though he was god himself. The Eddie Vedder rip off sound comparison came later...after, or right around the time Icarus started headed towards the sun

[@Tzunamii777]

Love Creed. Creed's lyrics have a Christian spin, and as such are default punching bags. Ignore the drama queens. Great vid guys.

[@mikekirby2085]

Their first album just blasted. It was like they recorded it, and 2 or 3 people turned up the drum and bass volumes but didnt know other people did. It was just thunderous and sounded so different than most other bands.

[@AtomicSteve7]

I’ve always liked Creed. I remember this song playing at dances when I was in high school. Now I have a daughter and can appreciate this song even more.

[@animeheavenx2362]

I love creed and own every album, ill always defend them . I also own Scott Stapps solo album, which is very good as well. Scott stapp is what made creed , creed for me.

[@Giltr0y]

Higher is awesome. The whole album was pretty good back in a day.

[@markmaioli4]

"why do you feel the need to go out of your way to say hateful sh*t just because you don't like it?" This sentence encapsulates the main problem with social media today. Get involved with what you like and ignore the rest! btw - I don't think it's a bad song, it was just SO overplayed I can do without hearing it. BUT I also feel the same about Stairway to Heaven ...

[@jessicaavery1080]

superman by 3 doors down edged out this song for me. I think I've only been able to stand hearing it again in the past few years. in the classic rock realm, as much as I love Rush (2nd fave band), if I never hear spirit of radio again it will be to soon

[@brezmania]

I don't remember there being a lot of mainstream hatred for Creed when they were at the height of their popularity. The one knock I always heard was how they acted in their music videos as if it was some thrash metal when their music was closer to christian rock.

[@brismithejedi]

I never hated Creed and listened to them a lot back in the day. I imagine that most of the hate came from their popularity, songs being overplayed, and some of their Christian lyrics.

[@mikemcguire3041]

This album in particular had a lot of power ballads which drew some additional hate as well.

[@lorireynolds3540]

I guess I'm not cool because I like Creed, lol.

[@tinkler4]

I was totally oblivious to the hatred towards them. Found out years later and I too never understood why? Their music lyrically I found relatable and genius production. ‘Higher’ got my attention about the band.

[@chuckz28]

Same. I had no idea they were hated. I've always enjoyed their music but never enough to consider seeing them in concert or anything. They became a forgotten band for me mostly.

[@ErdricksArmor]

I always liked Creed while growing up because of their sound. Now, as a father with a young daughter, this song made me cry. That makes them great in my book.

[@randysfaw]

Keep in mind that Limp Bizkit and Creed came at the tail end of the grunge era, which was a bit of a rock revival. After the 80's, which had a lot of cheese, grunge was a breath of fresh air. (Not to mention metal, with Metallica blowing up) I think the big reason that bands like Limp Bizkit and Creed were hated was because they were kind of the antithesis of the music that people were loving at the time.

[@billhicks8]

Indeed, though I think Creed are far and away better than Limp Bizkit. Being a bit cliched and unoriginal isn't the same as being outright shit.

[@randysfaw]

@@billhicks8 lol...no doubt!

[@andysalter7192]

Or it could be they just were not that good ! Creed had talent but most of there material was boring outside of the " hits " , Limp Bizkit was at least something original, but it became" Bro rock" and was embraced by the meat heads and the Juggalo type music fans . I saw LP live back then and it was awesome, but I get the hate . But there still touring and doing well , and Alter Bridge have built a great career so they win in the end . The acts who were topping the charts back then have faded away to nothing so .......

[@andysalter7192]

@@billhicks8 Limp Bizkit at least we're original sounding! No one sounded like them back then , though many tried . Great live band too Creed were like going to a " Hip Church " where the pastor calls you " Bro " and Creed were the band who would play the service. Just awful ......

[@Mickey_Man80]

I don’t care what anyone says, Creed’s first album was fire. I bought when it first came out and still listen to some of it to this day.

[@karloz2722]

Honestly, I've always thought the Creed hate is more a meme than genuine hate. I might be wrong, I probably am, but I've never got why they're hated the way they are. And I've always liked this song well enough, I don't think it deserves the hate.

[@rat9199]

People were already sick of grunge by the end of the 90s, now imagine what the reaction would be to these post grunge bands that stripped all the punk factor in favor of the blandest radio friendly rock lol. Grunge could only exist in the late 80s to mid 90s, thats why the genre has been dead.

[@karloz2722]

@@rat9199 I guess that's fair. I might just see it differently because I can tolerate Creed more than most of the Nu Metal bands of the time.

[@andysalter7192]

No it was due to how cheesy and preachy it sounded even back then. I knew people who would get literally angry if Creed came on . The hate was VERY real back in 2000.

[@karloz2722]

@@andysalter7192 well, thanks for clarifying that, I wasn't aware of that and always felt like more people hated for the meme than for real. I can see the cheesy and preachy thing being annoying.

[@CrissyK1]

I didn't know Creed was a hated band. I loved Creed found it soul touching. News to me.

[@lisaannbarriner9633]

I loved this song at first but after hearing it forty times a day, it got old at the time. But hate is a mighty strong word. It still holds up today.

[@RunsLikeMays]

I'll give you the reasons why I dislike Creed: 1. Musically uninspiring - If you listen to a good amount of their songs, you can hear Mark Tremonti being held back. You hear the talent, but it's being suffocated. By simply removing Scott Stapp and replacing him with Myles Kennedy (and shedding the name Creed), it gave him room to breathe for once. 2. Scott Stapp. He once said in an interview that "There's more to life than sex, drugs and rock n roll". Within a year, a sex tape leaked with him saying "It's good to be the king". Around the same time, at their peak, he was visibly drunk at shows, to the point that fans sued him. Then, he would fight anyone who would make Pearl Jam jabs, including 311 in a hotel restaurant on Thanksgiving. He had all of these religious themes in his lyrics, which is fine, but time showed him to be a fraud. Essentially, Scott Stapp is the Fred Durst of the Post Grunge Movement...except that while Limp Bizkit is experiencing a benefit of revisionist history thanks to the Woodstock 99 Documentary, Creed is continuing to age like vinegar.

[@kevincase2473]

Not only did Stapp hold back Tremonti on guitar but he got pissed and fired Brain Marshall, the bassist after their second album. As a bassist myself I loved Brian’s playing on My Own Prison and Human Clay albums. Apparently Stapp did not. I love the fact that Mark got Brian back for Alter Bridge.

[@sebbach3747]

Well you know that just your opinion man.

[@bigol9223]

Was he a fraud or was he just human? Saying there's more to life doesn't mean that's not part of his life. Also hilarious that 311 had the balls to make fun of any band.

[@jerredwayne8401]

Everyone makes mistakes. And it's a good thing opinions are like assholes. Mine included

[@LuisHernandez001]

Another one?! You guys are spoiling us. Also... Woods of Ypres - I Was Buried In Mount Pleasant Cemetary

[@thelaststage]

Yes! Or Wet Leather, or even Lightning and Snow 🖤🤘🏻

[@TheLegendarySuperSaiyanBroly]

I've always Loved Creed. Grew up listening to them. Still listen to them to this very day. Every single one of those musicians are talented. Scott Stapp's voice is incredible. They get hate because it's trendy. The majority of metalheads are very trendy individuals. Especially the " underground bands only " types.

[@alexanderjamieson7971]

I haven't heard this song since I was a teen. Now that I'm pushing 40 and have kids, this song actually takes on more meaning. A father not wanting their children to make the same mistakes he made, talk about relatable.

[@Dannyvan14]

Creed was my gateway into rock, so while I have moved on coz I listened to them to death, I will always have a love for the music.

[@Rosario_Verano]

My main exposure to Creed have been My Sacrifice and My Own Prison, although I've heard a couple of others here and there. I'll agree with it being ''edge-less'' and ''safe'' rock as I saw it written in another comment. However, it doesn't go as far as its existence offending me. Under the right set of circumstances, I'll enjoy them.

[@RizzotheRat94]

Their first two albums from start to finish are masterpieces. I can’t think of a single bad song off either of those albums. I’ve never really understood why people hated them.

[@dontletherspeak7575]

Pearl jam marks.

[@keefriff99]

For me, it was never about ripping off grunge's sound or sounding like Vedder. Creed's music always had a bloated, melodramatic sound, and Scott Stapp came off as a pious, overly-earnest, self-important nimrod who did endless Jesus-on-the-cross poses onstage and in videos. I was in college when they hit big, and you just could not get away from their songs...the band itself is talented as hell, but it was definitely Stapp who was responsible for most of the hate and ridicule. And then when his life fell apart, most people took it as vindication that he was a complete phony.

[@ericwhite2830]

^^^This^^^

[@kimmychan1967]

Spot on.

[@mauriciovas]

Spot on dude.

[@555nm6]

so what is wrong with pointing people to Christianity? Would you rather point people to drugs etc like all the other band do, come on man

[@stevenpuckitt212]

Same issue with Bizket really. His band was also stellar, but the hate is mostly aimed at his drama and his corny lyricism.

[@Zak0805]

Oh man. Glad to see yall do this one. I grew up with Creed and will always love them! Looking forward to yalls takes on this

[@transformersrule09]

I liked this whole album when it came out, but when I became a Dad, this song meant so much more to me. It brought tears to my eyes when I'd hold my son. With arms wide open.

[@RKGrizz]

Im glad I am not alone thinking Creed is good while loving Pearl Jam.

[@JoeVideoed]

Hear, hear.

[@melonrain6862]

In all seriousness though, I appreciate what y’all are doing. Music is awesome and means many different things to many different people from many different cultures. But the fact remains that we are all human beings regardless of where we are from or what race we are….in my case more than one….music like this can bring us all together. We just have to want it.

[@bringthedarth]

This song was HUGE, but that's also why I got so sick of it. It ended up being on every radio station, with alternate versions that had extra strings and treatments that would help it be more appealing to old folks. Sometimes it's not so much that some of these bands sucked as much as their music just got so watered down and we all got so sick and tired of hearing them. Even now, this is a hard song to stomach even 20+ years later. It's not a horrible song, I just heard it WAY too much!

[@galerios1]

Every time I hear this song I remember the day I held my daughter for the first time. I cried then, and I cry now when I hear this song and remember that moment. My baby is 5 now. Still crying every time I hear this.

[@SardonicWrath]

Only needed to hear 10 seconds of this song for this to be the funniest Lost in Vegas video ever lol

[@pagameserum1698]

Creed was good, they had talent, creating music is not easy, they deserve respect for what they gave us, imo

[@vicedm1145]

You automatically got the Vedder comparison, they even had a celebrity death match about that because of how close they sound

[@amcmartin]

Ryan laughing as soon as the lyrics kicked in was hilarious. I'm right there with you, pal.

[@NativeSkeleton]

*A beautiful clean guitar tone playing* *Scott Stapp sings randomly*: Well, I just heard the news today Lol

[@KyleSoutar]

Grew up when Creed was huge and I was a fan then and still a fan. JUST BANGERS

[@RyMicTheKing]

I went to sleep one night when creed was one of the best bands ever. When I woke up the next day, society was like "it's douchey to like creed" and nobody knows for sure why. Everyone just ran with it.

[@user-wl2md5kz7k]

If you guys have some personal time I recommend listening to “faceless man” from creed. The lyricism is dope and the way they present the instrumentation is phenomenal. They have so many good songs. To many to name at the moment

[@brandonthompson13]

i listened to this song when i found out we were going to have my daughter. i knew exactly which song i wanted to hear when i got the same news. i never understood the hate because their first album had so many great songs coming from scott's life. i can see how they got played maybe a bit too much on the radio but i still listen to them. so far, limp bizkit and now creed are not part of my hate list. keep up the great videos and reviews!!!

[@NilZed1]

I've always loved this song because it covers a moment you rarely hear men honoring publicly. Many, I hope most men feel the news of a coming child this deeply. but it's not a thing many speak aloud.

[@JoeVideoed]

Some songs you just never get tired of, no matter if it gets played to death. This is 1 of them for me. I offer no apologies.

[@scottflock1370]

One of my favorite bands of all time!

[@Cm42TV]

I got into Creed when I was very very young and have loved them all my life. When I got older and heard all the hate for them, I couldn't BELIEVE it. Still to this day it baffles me. Just great tunes, great lyrics, great guitar/vocals. My Sacrifice is an absolute banger as well, and when they came back in 2009 with a return album they revamped their sound and was great too. I didn't grow up with 80s/90s metal, so I can understand some of the hate that this was getting more press than people's favourite bands, but the idea that Creed are bad is simply not true haha!

[@babylonkid]

I'm not a fan, but I don't dislike them. I hear a lot of good stuff in their songs. Never dare try and take Vedder away from us. He is the GOAT! Love you guys. ✌️ Side note: "What If", "My Sacrifice" and "What's This Life For" are 3 dope Creed songs

[@MrISabier]

Creed, Nickelback, Limp Bizkit and all these “hated” bands were hugely popular in college in India. Haven’t met anyone who actually despises them. Some rock fans find it easy to criticise these guys against more popular rock names. Don’t fall for it. Listen to Creed’s first album. It’s a masterpiece. 👍🏽

[@andysalter7192]

Putting Creed and the word " masterpiece" in the same sentence is just wrong ! And Bollywood movies are huge in India so there is no accounting for taste ! Ha Ha 😜 I am just stirring really, I don't care what people like but when I think of " masterpiece" I think Sgt Peppers or Night at the Opera by Queen or Master of puppets by Metallica......not the first Creed album!! No offence .......

[@MrISabier]

@@andysalter7192 The college grad in me 20yrs ago is saying it's a "masterpiece". Hehe. Now I wouldn't play it at all except the songs I like....including Bollywood💃 As for true masterpieces, no arguments with your choices. I like to add Tool's 10000 Days & AIC's Dirt to it 🎶

[@nagaManu6485]

@@MrISabier pleasant to see another brother from India here. Greetings from Nagaland.

[@MrISabier]

@@nagaManu6485 Same here Bro. Greetings from the south.

[@jimmccoys5778]

It just seems to show that when a band gets overplayed on the radio, people tire of it! Nickelback is the same situation! They played the hell out of them! They were huge and then people despised them!! Just seems to be the pattern!! Great reaction fellas, as always honest good hard work!! Much appreciated!! I love it

[@powellpatterson4928]

I for one love creed. Brilliant musicianship meets profound message/lyrics. For me they represent the best of an otherwise weak era of music.

[@BrettJ_Online]

I love this band and I love this song. The old saying 'music is a soundtrack to your life' holds true. When my son was born soon to be 18 years ago, this was one of the first two song he ever heard when I played it for him in the hospital. And Creed's music, along with several other songs from other artists, got me through my best friend's suicide in 2001. Songs touch people in many different ways. And this song and this band will always have a special meaning to me as their music has been there for me in my good times and in the bad times.

[@yasserjamilq8]

What's interesting is I started exploring Creed for fun a few months ago as a guy who now listens to extreme metal. And if you put all the drama of Scott stapp aside, the music itself is actually pretty good for what it is. In fact I'd say this song has one of the best solo's when compared to all the other commercial rock bands at the time. It's objectively good, is singing cheesy? Sometimes, but the guy had good vocal chops. I think they are far better than Nickelback too.

[@mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028]

I also listen to hard ass metal, but still love grunge and stuff like Creed’s first album. But Nickelback also had one good album (The State). But I agree, after that Nickelback became cringeworthy white-knight crap.

[@georgesuarez1949]

I grew up in metal and rock and sometimes the community loves a band until They become successful The greater the success the greater the hate. the truth is most metal heads I know never picked up an actual guitar and have zero perspective on how talented the band was….they did become alter bridge after all I get some of the Stapp pushback but the guy could sing and wrote strong Melodie’s

[@MorghynLeFae]

This is almost universally true; re: the success breeding hate. ...However, there's a whole hell of a lot of exceptions, too. System of a Down being among one of the biggest acts that's also nigh universally acclaimed. It's truly an odd thing to see, with certain bands going against what is "the usual" when it comes to Rock and Metal and their subgenres.

[@jacquesdemaille8653]

Many tried to copy Vedder’s style back then. This guy was so overly trying that you couldn’t ignore it. I agree that their songs sound great… almost perfect…. Which is probably why many hated them… they sounded fabricated by corp executives.

[@AndDeathForAll82]

They did sound like that, but they weren’t. Mark, Scott, and Brian are just that damn good, legitimately.

[@JoeVideoed]

@@AndDeathForAll82 Ironically, they were signed by a then small indie label (allegedly the cost of making "My Own Prison" was $5k). Wind Up Records seemed to explode after Creed 1st album.

[@pane36]

Sounds like a similar situation to Greta Van Fleet. They've received monumental amounts of shit for sounding like Led Zeppelin.

[@jc5144]

I love this song. My daughter was born around the release of this song so it has always resonated with me.

[@MandyZor-El]

Higher and Pity for a Dime are my favorite Creed songs.

[@SgtBaker27]

I don’t like this song…… but “higher” and “one last breath” I still listen to from time to time, they have pretty solid hits…but I wouldn’t be able to go back and listen to full albums

[@tattoofun31548]

Having grown up in rock and metal and being in my teens during the grunge thing, this just felt so tired by the time it came out. I'll agree that it was musically great it just hit the world at the wrong time. A similar thing happened after Kurt Cobain died. I loved Nirvana but they were so heavily played after his death I had to take a break from them for a long time. Creed and similar bands of the time were just coming out at a time when we had been saturated with that style so long it hit me wrong. Still does honestly. Like I said, well made music, it just suffered from bad timing for me.

[@PaullyPorkchopsVids]

Great reaction, guys! Please check out "No Place for Disgrace" by the band Flotsam and Jetsam! It's the title track from their 2nd album released in 1988, and it's about Japanese Samurai warriors. Jason Newsted formed this band before joining Metallica in 1986 after Cliff Burton (bassist) died in a bus accident. Flotsam and Jetsam are still going strong. They released their 14th album last June. Thanks!

[@TraciMedlin-w2v]

The background of learning that he wrote this for his daughter makes this song even better to me ❤️

[@TomFury3310]

I hope you all do an episode where you share some of the most notable comments from this marathon, you guys are so hyped about the comments to come it would be awesome to here some of your favorites

[@owellie]

100% honest right here, listening to songs with YOU guys helps me dissect songs and pay very close attention. I never would have thought to listen closely and hear that GREAT bass! The drum work is great and really adds depth to the music. Now, for the reason why I generally dislike this song: unfortunately my local rock radio station (shout-out 99.5 KISS, you guys effing suck), LITERALLY plays this song 4-5 times a day. Growing up with only the radio to bump with in the car has made me dislike Creed and most of all grunge. How unfortunate, I know. Either way, this review was great, like always, and it helped me experience this song in a completely different way!

[@Chris1975Dec]

In San Antonio? Yeah you’re right, KISS is and has been garbage for a long time. This city has no good rock radio stations.

[@mauriciovas]

If you liked the bass on this song, you should listen to their first album.. is a bass masterpiece.

[@Jamesharris-lo9nn]

Creed came out shortly after the wave of Grunge bands that sang about depression, drug addiction and life's struggles. Creed had messages of joy, hope and faith in their music. A huge segment of Metal and Hard Rock fans don't want a positive message. They desire the darker side of things.

[@Retrorevelations]

They definitely had positive messages in some of their songs, but there were also many that were quite dark. "My Own Prison" was about creating your own hell. "Ode" was about people who use and hurt you. "What If" was about liars and phonies. Wash Away Those Years was about a girl who was raped. "Bullets" again about people taking shots at you, trying to tear you down. "One Last Breath" is about depression and pain and considering killing yourself. "Weather" similarly about being broken and beaten down by life. But you get the idea.

[@RandytheRedneck]

After almost 70 years of rock it is almost impossible for someone to make something that doesn't sound similar to something from the past. Maybe if a person was from a totally isolated place maybe they would make something that sounds totally new. 🤔

[@TheBrokenShelf]

That would be interesting, though it would have to be some kind of tribal or basic instrumentation for the to be from an isolated place in this day and age. Maybe there's some person who was born and raised in the woods and happened to have a guitar or something.

[@andysalter7192]

Thing about Creed was Pearl jam and all those copycat bands had already had its time by 1999 and this band just sounded like a cheesy Christian rock version of those copycat bands . Eddie Vedder was the original and could get away with the " mouth full of balls " voice but after that it just sounded lame .

[@jadaspratt3315]

my dad would play this for me and my sisters when i was growing up. he has only daughters so this is a special song for me. he loves creed haha

[@garyjarrett3850]

I haven't looked through all the comments of course but here is the reason for most of the hate(besides overplaying which doesn't change the fact of the musical ability of the group) They were religious. I will admit this song is very emotional for me and will always be my song for my son as it just encompasses how you feel(most) when you have a child. Buuut I liked them before this song. One My Own Prison Are You Ready and Bullets rock. But it was the lyrics connected to religion that many(who probably wouldn't admit it) that many said they hated them. I am the opposite of religious yet I know a good inspirational song when I hear it and can ignore the fact they were "religious" and expressed it in their lyrics. This song is perfect.