Creepy Creations - Wiper Motor Control

In this latest video, we show you how to completely control a wiper motor for use in a haunt prop. This include a demo if the AWESOME power of a wiper motor, plus the use of my soon-to-be-famous wiper motor demo board. Plus, at the end, I provide the complete schematic diagram for a controller that will let you control a wiper motor in both a forward and reverse direction, complete with limit switches for detecting the end of travel in both directions too! How can you NOT love wiper motors?!?!?!

[@tigerseye73]

Journeyman steel mill electrician here; Thumbs up for creating a very well illustrated explanation of controlling DC motors direction, including dynamic braking. This is a huge help when explaining this to an apprentice. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheJoeFletch]

I just implemented the brake on one of my wiper motors. Works perfectly! Wiper motor stops instantly.

[@werties9098]

is it possible to get a parts list for this project , I understand the concepts but need some help getting the right parts

[@ishsiriram8286]

Awesome. I am thinking...this can be used to make a push button shifter for a transmission. brilliant.

[@davidjohnson1883]

Please lose the music. It's too loud and distracting. Your wonderful voice is just fine. Thank you!

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

Why not just use two SPDT relays and be done with it? Breaking, polarity reversal, and power on and off are all taken care of. Far less convoluted. I have diagrams but youtub is not letting me post links to it.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_WPiIfpKxQy2zFrMA43-P7rPMsVReubj?usp=sharing

[@andrejisp]

Dear, I drive a Mitsubishi outlander phev 2015, I have a problem, as soon as I start the car, the wipers come on and I can't turn them off. Can you help me?

[@retrojimmyx]

Thanks for the video. What is the name for the type of relay that supports both NO and NC please?

[@rifleman7313]

Could a wiper motor be used as a linear actuator with defined stops at fully extended and fully retracted. How could this be done and how much weight could consistently pushed, pulled, lifted, or lowered? Thanks

[@johnwalsh1879]

Do you know any examples of wiper motors that are all ready ground isolated

[@moonolyth]

WOW, SO MANY USES. QUESTION? CAN A SPEAD CONTROL WORK WITH THIS AND THEN WHERE WOULD IT BE CONNECTED IN THE SYSTEM?? I THINK THIS WOULD WORK VERY WELL WITH AN OLD SEWING MACHINE GREAT TUTORIAL!!!

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

First, WHY ARE YOU YELLING? Second, Sewing machine? Sewing machines run on AC and are reversed by gears.

[@moonolyth]

@@AztecWarrior69_69 Hah I hit the capitals and just didn't switch off... think I got my answer earlier.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@moonolyth What about the sewing machine?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@moonolyth Where I get hazy is when you say " I THINK THIS WOULD WORK VERY WELL WITH AN OLD SEWING MACHINE". As I have three Baby Locks, for Singers Pros, two Singers Light industrial and a heavy duty leather and upholstery monster and a few others and not one of the can be controlled with DC. I was scratching my head. Until I remembered we had DC powered sewing machines in the Army. Anyway back to the point. How are/would you use something that is meant for DC on an AC Machine (Assuming the your machine is AC)? Well assuming that you machine is AC, then the answer to the question, "CAN A SPEAD (speed?) CONTROL WORK WITH THIS, yes. Most machines use a pedal that is very simple to replace with a potentiometer. Placement will be determined by the machine itself. However most machines have them inline with the wall power. FYI I don't really like the way he does the polarity reversal or the power on and off, seems to convoluted. It does work tho so I took the time to clean up the diagram. drive.google.com/file/d/1x5Rbv6vX1mc2iVJJRk3j-7x_6W6srPWH/view?usp=sharing However I have a better easier solution. This type of two Single Pole Double Throw relay setup has been used for as long as there has been cars, and power windows & locks. It has all the features his has, Power "lock" motor, ON & OFF, and Polarity reversal. drive.google.com/file/d/18p7zlUtN7J6UH5hnGtQqhVBXldcOfCAC/view?usp=sharing

[@moonolyth]

@@AztecWarrior69_69 tried replying twice for some reason hasn't taken. I have a hand crank that does not take a motor. Most setups for this machine take a very large pulley at the main shaft. With an AC motor. Large pulley wheel is for compensating on the higher speed. This wiper motor would run much slower with torque. Making it more controllable. Using smaller chain and gear with some sort of slipping key would allow better usage plus release for reverse hand cranking. I am a tinker with needle and thread. Far from perfect. A nice controllable motor would probably run 300 bucks. This setup would be small and Light... on the pocket too.

[@irankundanoel2807]

I don't see very well how relay 2 is connected can you please zoom in. Thanks

[@muddyudders]

Are all wiper motors the same? Will this work on all or just specific ones?

[@kifadofamilyshow2466]

can the speed be increased more than that high speed?

[@Peanutbutter326]

Can you do a full start to finish assembly of a creation please. Your explanations of the electronic workings are great

[@Clearadvantagepoolservice]

Could you suggest how I would take the two direction setup and make it on a timer? Such as 8 seconds one direction and 8 seconds reverse direction. Then a timer to space that cycle out every 45 seconds or so?

[@red1246]

you could probably use a condensator-resistor timer to control the relay

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

I believe the DC/AC Motor Reversible controller Module Timing Delay Cycle Limit Relay can do that for you. Do a search for video. I tried posting it for you and the link to where to buy but youtub deleted the comment.

[@nickpalise2448]

I'm looking for a schematic for a 1976 ford Gran Torino Elite windshield wiper, washer and be able to park. Can you help. anxiously waiting your reply.

[@colten1d]

Really like the video. but the background music is anoying. maybe turn it down 2/3 of the way. I like the way you teach. I like the relay hookups. Thankyou for the video.

[@technosiveinnovations3476]

I m using this motor for a project , and when I have rotated motor its max speed by 12 v 9 amp battery ,a motor becoming a hot..what should be do for keeping motor normal temperature.

[@gelatinskeleton8745]

Do you have a video for the build of your Skelton or just the arm mechanism????

[@garudakurt5166]

how to control rotation into 180 degre only ?

[@jerinjohnkumarakom]

can you say which battery is best for a wiper motor roatate for 1 or 2 hr.12 v wiper motor.

[@sanjaybhatikar]

Outstanding! But what if you need to control speed? Can you do pulse-width modulation without a microcontroller or chip? Hats off to you, sir!

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

Yes just us a module before the switching of polarity. Also jut use two SPDT relays and one switch. Much easier.

[@sanjaybhatikar]

@@AztecWarrior69_69 Thank you.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@sanjaybhatikar NP. I actually had written a detailed comment on how to do it but KZbin keeps deleting my comments randomly. Or at least the ones I post link in or are very long. (I hate typing). So I will post this then the links. Let me know if the diagrams make sense to you.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@sanjaybhatikar Again youtube delete the comment with the links.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@sanjaybhatikar Well I tried.

[@rockyrodriguez2351]

Good explanation, thank you.

[@clarkso65]

Great video!! Thanks a lot.

[@19Edurne]

How to instantly improve any tutorial? Answer: By not putting background "music" when there's vocal explaning going on. It's distracting, repetitive and 9 times out of 10, way too loud. Usually, it makes me go search for another tutorial, preferably with just the voice.

[@jackspratt4343]

May I ask, does the 'breaking' of the motor uses this method cause undue wear on the motor. Would it burn the motor out quickly or is it just routine wear and tear ? Many thanks. This is excellent.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

No.

[@GSGameplayTV]

Sir relay how many pine.

[@deoblo85]

Thats awesome thanks for Sharing ..... Love using relays !! HFL!!

[@adaikamohamed7445]

great job

[@rodciferri9626]

Great video - is it possible to add a timer so that the motor goes in one direction to a switch and then reverses direction after a set amount of time?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

Yes

[@cuterobyn83]

Are you still around you haven't posted in a long time

[@AnimationGoneWrong]

Still around. Just not many new props these days (no room and little time).

[@jackspratt4343]

When the motor shorts back to itself and stops, how long will it hold this position ?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

The motor is off, so until it gets turn back on it will remain like that since there is no power.

[@jackspratt4343]

@@AztecWarrior69_69 Would it hold this position without power, if under load ? Basically, would it hold a load when turned off ?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@jackspratt4343 Wiper motors are a funny thing. They are strong and withstand high winds and rain and still move. Yet when you pick up the blade you can move the motor. Some you can't. It really depends on the motor, the load, how it is installed and purpose. BTW Just to make sure you understand, when people talk about this "Shorting" or "power lock/stopping", the energy that forces the motor to stop, dissipates very fast and is no longer there. This is mainly used to stop the motor quickly and not let it keep rotating with the momentum. If there is a load applied and the motor starts to turn, the motor becomes a generator. When that happens the motor starts putting OUT power, but locks again because of the short. This is not a true lock tho. If the motor is parallel to the ground and a lever is attached to the shaft (like a clock) and on the end of the lever you attach a weight. The weight will eventually rotate all the way down. Power off , lock, energy dissipates, weight makes lever rotate the shaft, power is produced and motor "locks" again. Cycle begins again until weight is all the way down. If you put the lever rotating level and parallel with the ground , then most likely the motor will say in that position. Again, It really depends on the motor, the load, how it is installed and purpose. If you need a motor that will hold position then you should look into getting a worm geared motor.

[@jackspratt4343]

@@AztecWarrior69_69 That is an excellent description. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I appreciate it.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@jackspratt4343 I am glad I could help. Thank you.

[@OakLaneCemetery]

Great info!

[@ddrusa]

Will try at home now

[@caduceus33]

Annoying and unnecessary music accompanies this video. While I would like to have the info, I couldn't take the awful noise!

[@mrafb7224]

Hi ,PSE advice how can I reduce wiper motor speed to 5 rpm?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

Use a PWM motor speed controller.

[@ayatullhapamiry1655]

nice

[@goodig9014]

Hello Creepy Creations, I just wired you circuit for this motor control from your circuit diagram I would like to say it does not work it has a dead short on it when relay 2 switches from NO to NC I was very disapointed but with a little re -wireing I got it to work and it works as it should, if you are going to share a circuit diagram make sure you go over it first.

[@jmerilo]

Hi goodi g! Can you please share the fix. Thank you!

[@johnmoore3859]

Funny how "goodie "g offers no insight or explanation as to the problem. In fact based upon the fact that they can't even punctuate their own posting, I suspect they simply misunderstood the wiring diagram. Also no content on their own site. People like this are all talk and no action. Armchair warriors !!

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@jmerilo There is no fix. The circuit works just fine. I wouldn't use it but it does work.

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

​@@johnmoore3859 I agree on all that you said however it may not be all his own fault. The schematic is correct but it is a but difficult to see what is going on the second relay (top to bottom). The dashes that connect the contacts are cluttering up the positive wire that is being connected to the NO n NC. The Schematic is also all over the place. The wires are going up the back down and crossing other wires back down to where it goes instead of going straight to it. The Poster of this video need to learn NOT to go THROUGH the components with the wire. He also has components facing in one direction but the connection are in the other direction. Honestly this is a piss poor diagram. It is in fact correct tho. Either way I would not use it anyway. I reworked his diagram and made my own. Mine (in My opinion)(mine I mean diagram and working knowledge of, the idea has been in use in motor reversal for ages) is a much better way of getting this done. It gets everything accomplished that the video does but so much simpler and easier to do. drive.google.com/file/d/1NrQcrScxus-xfB_zWZGszqmqyCq2NNzn/view?usp=sharing drive.google.com/file/d/1E_s3D4rqx2HzyRXCXLZ_8FuZyQihFkFS/view?usp=sharing

[@gortnewton4765]

Nice video and explanation but we don't need that repetitive music, please.

[@jamesbarratt593]

What a mess. You are trying to pay attention but you have that crappy music blaring aware. You are talking too loud to be heard over it and need lessons on instruction too.

[@harrykuheim6107]

Poor Baby...STFU..

[@seatburners9089]

I am a french speaking canadian. I find your video very, very useful and even if I have to listen to them a couple of times to fully understand, I'm very glad you take the time... Thanks! Even with the music ;-) To mr Barratt: You don't know how to talk to people. Unfortunately, It's an art you don't master!