CRIGGLESTONE: Wakefield Parish #25 of 30

[@TheVillageIdiot]

CRGGLESTONE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: - The house opposite what is now Durkar Fisheries used to be called The Poplars due to the massive poplar trees which framed the front garden. The back garden was huge, and incorporated a large orchard and a shrubbery, although sadly all this has now gone. At that time there were two pubs next door - The New Inn, which is still there, and The Foresters. - Calder Grove has a well known disused railway viaduct - Crigglestone Viaduct - which has 21 arches. It seems that the viaduct, with 21 arches, is the same former railway line that crosses the road in Middlestown in the Sitlington episode - There are in fact TWO bridges that cross the road in Calder Grove, the second being a "metal" bridge a little further South. This second line is also disused and is a former spur off an existing line into Wakefield Kirkgate, branching off just to the South of Horbury. - These two lines formerly crossed each other, which on the map appears to be in the middle of nowhere to the West of Calder Grove/East of Netherton. Add to that, the Hallam Line also runs under the viaduct here too. That's the Barnsley-Wakefield line that got a mention in the Woolley Episode. Running South, the line passes under Crigglestone Viaduct before entering a tunnel that goes under Woolley Edge Services!

[@MrJasdog107]

Know that area well we visit freinds there you certainly get around Andy.

[@TheVillageIdiot]

I try 😁

[@nialldafoe2221]

that mound is Sandal Castle I walked to Sandal Castle a lot😄 also I went Kettethorpe high school also i walked around Kettethorpe as well

[@emilduncanbrown8571]

Although the place names ending "-thorpe" or "-thorp" are indeed from the Norse (Viking) in parts of England the lineage is actually wider than that: Norse is one of several Teutonic lineages. In some parts of England those same endings come from Anglo-Saxon roots the "th" is a substitute for the "thor" which is derived from the Runic writing. To get an idea of the Teutonic lineages consider -thorpe (English), -þorrfe (Icelandic), -dorpp (Dutch), -dorp (Low German and Frisian) and -Dorf (High and Standard German). But yes in the former "Danelaw" the derivation is Viking.

[@TheVillageIdiot]

This is why lots of places in Lincolnshire have "-thorpe". Viking settlers were of course met with the East Coast when they sailed across the North Sea. I am aware of the "thor" letter for th too. This was originally part of, but subsequently dropped over time, from what we know now as the alphabet. There was a fabulous video about that right here on YT. If I can find it i'll link it, well worth a watch!

[@TheVillageIdiot]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKfWnIltepWaZrM Found it!

[@emilduncanbrown8571]

@@TheVillageIdiot yup lol and there's more: one can pair up a lot of the consonants across European languages too. English f-ather and French p-ère, English b-rother and French f-rère; English d-oor and German T-ür, English d-aughter and German T-ochter; and if you dive into the spoken languages there's even more: in German final b takes the sound of p and final d takes the sound of t. You'll also notice it extends beyond the Teutonic ones. In fact it extends across the various alphabets used for the IndoEuropean primary linguistic branch hence the Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi (Persian), Urdu/Hindi and even Sanskrit alphabets amongst many others. Plus of course the International Phonetic Alphabet an embellished Latin one facilitated the giving of both writing to languages that had been only spoken until then and to render ideographic tonal languages such as Chinese a standardised transcript so that ANYBODY could speak them with just the knowledge of IPA pronunciation alone! It's a whole subject in itself!

[@Hellhoundcorpos]

My great grandfather James Hancock worked in the coal mine at crigglestone he was killed in the 1941 disaster

[@rachelwalker7091]

Calder Grove has a well known disused railway viaduct, crigglestone viaduct which has 21 arches.

[@TheVillageIdiot]

Am I right in thinking that'll be the same old railway line that crosses over Middlestown (Sitlington episode)?

[@rachelwalker7091]

@@TheVillageIdiot Not sure. There are actually two disused lines that cross the main road in Calder Grove. One on the viaduct and one on a metal bridge.

[@TheVillageIdiot]

@@rachelwalker7091 just had a quick look on the map. Found both bridges. It would appear the viaduct carried the same line as I thought. The other one looks like a former spur off the existing line between Ossett and Wakefield Kirkgate, and it looks like at one tkme they crossed each other. This is pretty fascinating! I'll make a little map to show it and put it on my Facebook page!

[@rachelwalker7091]

@@TheVillageIdiot Interesting. I believe that a current railway line also passes under part of the viaduct. Lots of railways used and disused in this part of Yorkshire!

[@TheVillageIdiot]

@@rachelwalker7091 You're right, a third line does indeed! Its the Hallam Line that was seen in the Woolley episode. It disappears off into a tunnel that goes under Woolley Edge Services after the viaduct