Crighton CR700W : What makes this bike so special?

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The Race Bay

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@dragonskinstudio
@dragonskinstudio Жыл бұрын
The world needs more of these bikes ❤
@davidpalk5010
@davidpalk5010 Жыл бұрын
The world needs more Brummie metal bashers!
@benchasinghorizons9428
@benchasinghorizons9428 Жыл бұрын
Just needs more custom bikes."what bike you got".... Custom honda.
@adamncurry6818
@adamncurry6818 Жыл бұрын
A rotary won the bsb championship in 1994 , they later banned it because it was faster than than the rest of the grid!
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
A bike that was engineered by Brian Crighton and the spiritual ancestor of this machine
@richardchen1267
@richardchen1267 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it wasn’t banned, the development of the rotary engine for motorbikes would increase and prices of the bikes would reduce
@BillyBorm
@BillyBorm Жыл бұрын
@@richardchen1267We probably could be owning rotary road bikes by now if it wasn’t banned 🥲
@iNFiN3
@iNFiN3 Жыл бұрын
@@richardchen1267 you do realise how much fuel and oil it consumes? could never make it into street use because it couldnt meet emission requirements and the range would be awful, its nothing other then a nieche product, thats why he only sells a handfull of those.
@richardchen1267
@richardchen1267 Жыл бұрын
@@iNFiN3 wasn’t really talking about only him developing it.
@JoeWolsing
@JoeWolsing Жыл бұрын
The specs are insane, just as the sound is! Love it! ❤
@NodbodRS
@NodbodRS Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful sounding bike... Love them.
@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 Жыл бұрын
Seeing and hearing riders such as Steve Spray, Robert Dunlop, Ron Haslam cane the Norton Rotarys around the TT course was imprinted on my mind for ever, 22 years of looking later I get my own Rotary! OK its no where near the highly refined machines from the genius Mr Crighton but for a fact it gave birth to the 588 Nortons. I got myself a Hercules W2000, paint and chrome was shot but it was all there and 1,400 genuine miles with a pristine rotor housing it was brought back to A1 condition without the need for rare engine parts. What does it go like? A Bantam on steroids! Pop bang wirrr bloody hilarious to ride, rubbish hunting on the overrun but I love it. DKW who sold under the Hercules name in USA committed to selling 2000 in 2 years, fell short of the target so sold the rights and production equipment to Norton. My single rotor 294 is half a Norton. Mr Crighton could you tweak my Herc please 27HP not enough!
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
May you enjoy many more miles on your Hercules, however much power it makes!
@mej6519
@mej6519 Жыл бұрын
crighton solved the inherant rotary heating problem by feeding coolant through the e-shaft, keeping the center of the engine cool.
@blipman17
@blipman17 Жыл бұрын
Reduicing weight in the process. But as far as I understand, the cooling problem is at the outer wall plate near the sparkplugs, the sandwich plates at that location, and the rotor tips. Is that not so?
@Shadow0fd3ath24
@Shadow0fd3ath24 Жыл бұрын
@@blipman17 yes it can be, but its exascerbated by the rotors expanding outward "pinching" the apex seals tighter and tighter
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
The exhaust ejector cooling system,as it is known. Super simple but very effective innovation.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 2 ай бұрын
@@howardosborne8647 How about about an aircooled rotor mazda 13B this can be done by cutting excess metal out and more air ports on billet Al side plates. its been done for some airplane applications.
@scottw.thaggard-ul6rw
@scottw.thaggard-ul6rw Жыл бұрын
I've always loved rotary engines, motorcycle rotary, automotive rotary, Suzuki RE-5 was one I'm familiar with we sold them at the Suzuki Shop I worked at in the 76,77,78,79. I turbocharged many Mazda RX-7'S, those engines rev higher and thrive on turbo's & nitrous oxide,light, compact,lots of power too. That bike of yours is really something
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
If only it *was* ours!
@mikejohnson5900
@mikejohnson5900 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, one of the issues with rotary engines - I'm thinking of the Mazdas, was the seals at the ends of the rotors would wear and fail which was a weakness that I don't has ever been resolved. I had an RX-2 and it was pretty powerful for a small lump, and when it got to a certain RPM it was like a VTEC engine, suddenly there'd be just gobs of power and it would take off like a scalded cat.
@snalva
@snalva Жыл бұрын
If maintained properly those seals will actually last a pretty decent amount of mileage, the key is keeping a good tune and maintaining good oil at all times.
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 Жыл бұрын
Mazda managed to resolve the issues with the apex seals and so long as they were properly maintained, the seals would last more than 100k mls. What killed the rotary engine was not the seal issue although. many people thought it was an endemic problem, but the pollution as they couldn't get it clean enough for modern legislation. Another point was that they were thirst although Mazda eventually got acceptable fuel consumption out of them. The RX7 which was discontinued in 2002 is a modern classic and a big farorite with the retro horse power brigade. I hear that no normal garage will touch an RX7 because of the fears with the rotary engine so its left to the specialists
@stillededge
@stillededge Жыл бұрын
Yeah, seals and emissions issues. But for a RACE BIKE...as we've seen, "they'll" rule it out because they can't beat it.
@StanleyKubick1
@StanleyKubick1 Жыл бұрын
so you had a rotary powered car but you don't know what apex seals are? curious
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 Жыл бұрын
@@StanleyKubick1You expect too much from the average car owner. I wonder how many car owners actually know how a petrol engine works, let alone a Wankel rotary. Most owners are dumb as to the workings of their vehicle, which is the excuse why the manufacturers and legislators have ladled our car with gimmicks.
@ruselq211
@ruselq211 Жыл бұрын
Great video and commentary. Finally someone who actually showed what we wanted to see,,, the guts of the engine😊. 👍
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Glad that you enjoyed it. We're hoping to do the same for other racing machines soon.
@halcyon_studio
@halcyon_studio Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I can't believe I'm one of the first 500 subscribers to this channel.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Great to have you on board!
@businessvideo_pro
@businessvideo_pro Жыл бұрын
Fantastic insights! Brilliant video guys. Looking forward so seeing more. Subscribed!
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@nicolasetherton2534
@nicolasetherton2534 Жыл бұрын
I had a Norton interpol 2, seized the engine and spent £1200 having the engine rebuilt in Shenstone by Richard Negus. Worth every penny.
@monikacognomen1096
@monikacognomen1096 Жыл бұрын
Could've bought a honda for that....
@monikacognomen1096
@monikacognomen1096 Жыл бұрын
@@ianvcurtisfineartsculptor.3709 Maybe. They both have an interest in old relics.
@AAs-vb7pv
@AAs-vb7pv Жыл бұрын
Wish thay would make a modern 750 2 stroke bike or bigger 😂 i love anything 2 stroke or rotery
@paul8161
@paul8161 Жыл бұрын
100% with you on that comment.
@bradwilliams5242
@bradwilliams5242 Жыл бұрын
Somewhere saw a video of 2 kx 500 cylinders on a motorcycle
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
Have there been any rotary two-stroke bikes?
@AAs-vb7pv
@AAs-vb7pv Жыл бұрын
@@bradwilliams5242 yep iv seen a twin cr500 motor
@AAs-vb7pv
@AAs-vb7pv Жыл бұрын
@@Fee.1 not sure the f1 was great tho
@supertedogpriken
@supertedogpriken Жыл бұрын
Now all we need is a singel rotary dirt bike. Now that would be something AMAZING.
@dp8685
@dp8685 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Mazda rotary rx8 and it lacked hugely in torque, was a gas guzzler and even with top quality oil regular wore out fast. Think it’s great that people keep trying but the blue smoke when he revved it I wonder if it would ever comply to latest emissions.
@MrKdr500
@MrKdr500 Жыл бұрын
it's a track only bike.
@TonyK3130
@TonyK3130 Жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 The environment doesn't care where it runs. The exhaust doesn't stay within the fences.
@daveseemerollin6357
@daveseemerollin6357 Жыл бұрын
And I don't care about the environment ❤
@TonyK3130
@TonyK3130 Жыл бұрын
@@daveseemerollin6357 If that is not the most asinine comment ever made by anyone anywhere.
@nesbittracing1081
@nesbittracing1081 Жыл бұрын
​@TonyK3130 most track bikes don't have emissions regulations to abide by, they arent registered for road use and often remove emissions equipment to cut weight and increase performance.
@jimmydcricket5893
@jimmydcricket5893 Жыл бұрын
I need this to get to work, early.
@lices
@lices Жыл бұрын
Wish them the best❤❤
@BossaNossa1
@BossaNossa1 Жыл бұрын
Okay...I'm sold! When will the road street legal version be available!!!!
@pamanthanos9742
@pamanthanos9742 Жыл бұрын
did crigthon sale the engine individually or full bike?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Crighton sell the complete bike, but the engine itself is made by sister company Rotron. Unknown if the latter will sell you the engine by itself. rotronpower.com
@randydewees7338
@randydewees7338 Жыл бұрын
I had trouble following Mr Crighton's fast speech, the auto subtitle helped a lot.
@jonathanmagee9967
@jonathanmagee9967 Жыл бұрын
Superb design ideas
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
It really is very clever. My favourite detail is the chassis doubling as the oil tank!
@htothejay
@htothejay Жыл бұрын
same size motor as a rd350 - work of art! I want one
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 6 ай бұрын
Fascinated By rotarys. Understand that once running, they will continue to run, even after losing coolant & lubricant. Seems a natural for light single engine aircraft.
@bernardslabberts1240
@bernardslabberts1240 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see sponsership for one of the top 10 IOM TT 2023 competitors put this beautiful bike through it's paces at TT 2024 🙏😎🏍️❤️
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be something?!
@deantheboatguy1437
@deantheboatguy1437 Жыл бұрын
i believe guy martin has tested someones rotary saw a video a few months ago@@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
That would be this one.
@davenorman8251
@davenorman8251 Жыл бұрын
Guy Martins test ride on one of these was awesome.
@manoo422
@manoo422 Жыл бұрын
What race class would you put a 2.1L bike in...??
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
How did you get to that figure? Valid question, though. I wonder if there's a Formula Libre for bikes?
@manoo422
@manoo422 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRaceBay Every revolution of the rotor the motor sucks in and burns 2.1L of air and fuel but produces no more power than an RSV of half that capacity...There are no race classes for that size of engine.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 Жыл бұрын
I think the end sce e w the bike stumbling and amoking oretty well sums up rotarys.
@richardtapken7378
@richardtapken7378 2 ай бұрын
that is just fantastic
@535832
@535832 Жыл бұрын
What is the wear on the rotor lobes like .
@patch33
@patch33 Жыл бұрын
APEXseal
@Mystipaoniz
@Mystipaoniz Жыл бұрын
I love this bike! Amazing craftmanship.
@chrisbraid2907
@chrisbraid2907 Жыл бұрын
The twin rotor has the firing of a Six cylinder two stroke in a smaller package for the power output, incredible for Torque and power … I’d love one …. Gotta be smoother than my 1981 GSX1100 …
@hamishjohnson2351
@hamishjohnson2351 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. A 2 rotor is the same as a 4 cyclinder 4 stroke - 2 firing cycles per output shaft revolution. The thing is the eccentric shaft spins 3 times per rotor revolution so each rotor has one firing cycle per revolution of the eccentric shaft
@ClwnJuNkY
@ClwnJuNkY Жыл бұрын
The greatest bike ever ! I wish they sold this engine by its self. Stock standard PP !!!!
@ianhoyle8459
@ianhoyle8459 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s mega, I would love to ride one 👍
@jpmorgen5726
@jpmorgen5726 Жыл бұрын
I like it, but no shock linkage...?
@deanmsimpson
@deanmsimpson Жыл бұрын
Possibly to keep the wheelbase short?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Brian mentioned about the links (or lack thereof) in the recording but it was cut for time. Maybe we'll do a short on the suspension? Update: we did! kzbin.infoqrDu7Lqd6dw?feature=share
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 Жыл бұрын
Smooth running as they come too.
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Until it shits out an apex seal
@L0wcash
@L0wcash Жыл бұрын
Very nicely made! But why does it smoke like a 2-stroke?
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
Because it uses a little oil in the combustion chamber like a 2 stroke does. It only produces visible smoke when the engine is cold...once up to working temp there is no visible exhaust smoke.
@L0wcash
@L0wcash Жыл бұрын
Does it mix the oil in with the fuel? (like a 2 stroke) Or does the oil leak into the combustion chamber?
@stanleydenning
@stanleydenning Жыл бұрын
I notice the Parajet posters on the wall. When is this man going to design a rotary Powered Paraglider engine?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Parajet, Rotron and Crighton are all part of the same group of companies. Have a watch of this: Crighton CR700W Backstory: Brian Crighton & Gilo Cardozo interviews kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaS6eGqBg6qHlbs
@KHIJAPAN
@KHIJAPAN Жыл бұрын
What is the torque of the engine and at what rpm is the peak power and torque? Can you show a power graph
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Max. Peak 220HP Max. Peak RPM 10500RPM Max. Torque 105 FT/LBS Max. Torque RPM 9500RPM Full engine information: rotronpower.com/rt690xe-rotary-engine/
@99.9percent9
@99.9percent9 Жыл бұрын
Why does it smoke so much on start up?
@patch33
@patch33 Жыл бұрын
ロータリーはオイルを燃焼して潤滑してるから
@streddaz
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
It’s similar to a two stroke engine as it has a small amount of oil injected into the rotor housing for lubrication.
@99.9percent9
@99.9percent9 Жыл бұрын
@@streddaz Oh okay, so it's a two stroke rotary
@streddaz
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
@@99.9percent9 only that it needs oil injection (or an oil premix) other than that they are very different. I’ve had a few rotary engine cars. A lot of power from a very small engine.
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Жыл бұрын
@@99.9percent9 No, it’s a rotary.
@darkknight17
@darkknight17 Жыл бұрын
Stunning bike. Does it have electronics? How did it keep the front down at such a rediculous power to weight ratio?
@user-ii1iy8fz1d
@user-ii1iy8fz1d Жыл бұрын
Rider skill/respect.
@darkknight17
@darkknight17 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ii1iy8fz1d I would be disappointed if it was a wheelie machine and didn't have an aftermarket sophisticated electronics package to keep it in line
@woodpeckerdrums6254
@woodpeckerdrums6254 Жыл бұрын
Would love to learn more about this ..any work going ???
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
We have a few other videos and shorts on this channel about the bike. For everything else I suggest you try giloindustries.com
@nickmail7604
@nickmail7604 Жыл бұрын
Will go on sale?
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
No, Creighton is a notorious vaporware investment scam
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
Is there a aftermarket transmission of that type available for bikes?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Possibly - this transmission was made by Nova who can be found at novaracing.co.uk If there's enough interest we may do some videos just focusing on gearboxes and other components of cars and bikes, as well as complete vehicles
@driverjamescopeland
@driverjamescopeland 9 ай бұрын
What most people fail to realize... 700cc rotary = 1400cc piston equivalent... not because rotaries are better.... just that they displace their volume every revolution, instead of every other revolution.
@davefarmery8180
@davefarmery8180 Жыл бұрын
When will i be able to buy one
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Never, Creighton is a notorious vaporware scam
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Why so Negative, Wilhelm? 19 comments, none of them remotely complimentary about rotaries or those that develop them?
@markalan4026
@markalan4026 Жыл бұрын
Interesting bike, and good video!
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@sicks6six
@sicks6six Жыл бұрын
the exhaust sucking air through the engine to cool it is something you will eventually see used on other bikes, maybe not rotary but air-cooled 4T engines need all the help they can get, air-cooled 4T engines are simple and easily maintained but tend to run hot so extra cooling with no moving parts is an obvious progression, it could pull hot air from the barrels & head with a shroud or casing and reworking of the fins, I'm thinking Suzuki ram-air system used on the 1970s 2T GT's hooked up to an exhaust system like this bike has ! anyone up for the challenge, get in the shed,
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
The air-cooling system is very clever!
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
It's a failed design that has never been successfully demonstrated
@arielatom300heps
@arielatom300heps Жыл бұрын
Please put one of these engines in a super kart 🤠 Would be nuts having 20-30 karts racing on a full size circuit with 200hp at the wheels 🤙
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Utter madness… can we watch?
@booger65man
@booger65man Жыл бұрын
Cool toy but what is the point? Will we ever get to ride it? Will it ever be available?
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Жыл бұрын
For a 100,000 you can own one.
@NSGca
@NSGca Жыл бұрын
That's shear genius! 💯
@philipjosephbarker7737
@philipjosephbarker7737 8 ай бұрын
brilliant engine!
@pomplardpanam8591
@pomplardpanam8591 Жыл бұрын
interesting i think the big brands are watching because in 2027 in Motogp the engines will be with less CC
@Captain-Mayday
@Captain-Mayday Жыл бұрын
If some body wants a track bike that is lightweight, plenty of horsepower and only for the track, then perhaps the Suter MMX 500 could be a better option. That will at least finish a few laps at any track before needing to stop for fuel. Having a rotary bike will mean you get 15 mins of track action before needing to come in to refuel. Great conceptually, but will be terrible to live with. I wished the host would ask questions that will add value rather than prompting the Crighton representative to say things on the pamphlet
@streddaz
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
How do you know that you can only get 15min of track time? The Rotary Norton NRV588 with a similar rotary engine won the British Superbike Championship, so it can’t be that bad.💁🏼‍♂️
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Жыл бұрын
@@streddaz And the Isle of Man in 91 or 92.
@streddaz
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 yes, you are correct! The rotary isn’t so good on the street, as fuel consumption at lower RPMs is poor, but at higher RPM, it’s actually quite efficient. One of the reasons the Mazda 787B won LeMans was that they need less fuel stops than the opposition.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
What a great car that was. Would you be interested in an in-depth tech review of older cars and bikes too? We're only just getting started with this channel and suggestions are welcome
@otagogold2236
@otagogold2236 Жыл бұрын
​@@streddazyes very true, a fantastic engine for racing thats where the rotary engine really shines
@foesfly3047
@foesfly3047 Жыл бұрын
This overall design was brilliant when introduced by Mazda many years ago, and it’s still brilliant for several important reasons. But Mazda was never able to develop rotor seals, capable of holding up to the heat, friction and pressure loads they are subject to. Has this engineer worked that out? If so, I want one for my airplane.
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Introduced by Mazda??? WtF! Sachs was the first NSU-Wankel licensee to Introduced the Wankel KKM57. Unfortunately the Wankel engine offers no advantages over reciprocating engine and has several major disadvantages. This 1990s vintage Norton engine was originally designed by Sachs as the KC-60 developed for aircraft applications but abandoned due to reliability issues. No aircraft manufacturers use Wankel engines No Wankel engines have ever managed to pass a FAA or EASA airworthiness certification test. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and their MTBF is extremely low, unpredictable.
@NaughtyDude-q1e
@NaughtyDude-q1e 2 ай бұрын
If the Cars have the Mazda 787B Motorcycles have Crighton CR700W. What a monster
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay 2 ай бұрын
The 787B would make a great video. Does anyone know where they are? One is in the Mazda HQ in Japan but the other 2?
@1MADZ
@1MADZ Жыл бұрын
More beautiful than anything from the big boys
@DMRH69
@DMRH69 Жыл бұрын
Many "keyboard" experts on here...........LOL What an amazing machine & one of passion..... Full credit to Brian for all the effort in making this a reality
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Goes with the territory unfortunately. Glad you appreciate the efforts
@mike569112
@mike569112 Жыл бұрын
that bike is crazy.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
... but in a good way?
@aydinvideo
@aydinvideo Жыл бұрын
Fucking awesome. I want one.
@superliegebeest544
@superliegebeest544 Жыл бұрын
I can't find it back but I saw a video about rotery whereby they turned the working" inside" out wich solved most problems a rotery is know for like the seals ect. When I saw it I was like amazed how simple the solution was just turn the workings around. Mazda chefs must have had a burn the day they see that video.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
So the rotor becomes a stator and the housing spins???
@superliegebeest544
@superliegebeest544 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRaceBay no the rotor still spins haha. But the seals are in the housing not in the rotor, and the intake and exhaust ports are in the rotor.
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Wankel engines are obsolete technology and no long r mass produced in any legitimate applications
@quartusbuys6831
@quartusbuys6831 11 ай бұрын
This machine is a masterpiece. A Wankel freak myself. Same class as that 575 2T built in Switzerland. Just can't get on the guys name. Builds schassis for moto 2.
@MrSmegfish
@MrSmegfish Жыл бұрын
Totaries have slways shown promise.They had a problem with the rotor rings which wore away qiickly and the pettol consumption. Both curable.
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Wankel engines are inherently inferior and a colossal failure, they reached the logical conclusion of their development potential decades ago.
@leoa4c
@leoa4c Жыл бұрын
Why does the rotor only fire once per revolution? Wouldn't it be more efficient and more powerful to fire on every "stroke"?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
If I've understood it correctly (and I'm nowhere near as clever as Scarbs and Brian) each of the 3 faces of the rotor is the equivalent of an individual piston in a reciprocating engine. A revolution is therefore a complete rotation of one of those faces, which in doing so passes through 4 quadrants of the rotor housing providing the 4 strokes. For a single face of the rotor then, it is not possible to fire more than once per revolution as there is nothing to ignite until the next one. If you take the rotor as a whole, it is always in 3 of the 4 Stokes at any one point during a revolution - much like a 3 cylinder inline engine would be, I suppose. I really hope someone more knowledgeable than me turns up here soon to make more sense of this!
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 Жыл бұрын
I believe they were intially sold for around 95000 GBP. And that is not a ridiculous price for a motorcycle? From a manufacturer no one had ever heard from? Who is kidding who? This world has gone completely mad!
@streddaz
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 you try and buy any new race bike and see how much it costs.
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Жыл бұрын
People said that about Lamborghini at one point. He’s probably still losing money.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 11 ай бұрын
Crichton is an engineering legend...if I had a spare £95k,I would throw it on his table for one of those...only the clueless haven't heard of him...he deserves a MBE for services to engineering!
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept and execution… poor application considering the excessive oil consumption and the near complete lack of low/mid range torque that plague all Rotary engines ….that is unless you rev the snot out of it which you never see in any videos concerning this motorcycle…hmmmmm???
@Dzinbhudist
@Dzinbhudist Жыл бұрын
Well you can put turbo on rotor engine to get some torque but this will be much more complicated application.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
These rotary motors of the Crighton design have never suffered from poor low or mid range torque. It is a fallacy that these Rotron or the previous Chrighton Norton bikes were gutless or peaky. Also the 'excess oil consumption' you refer to is really quite minimal in reality.
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 Жыл бұрын
I once rode one of the original Norton rotary bikes. The torque delivery was amazing, just like a huge electric motor.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
@philhawley1219 Was that a Norton F1?
@bartreid8233
@bartreid8233 Жыл бұрын
Well you have obviously never ridden a rotary engine. The power is linear all the way through the rev range. I've only rode a Norton Rotary water cooled engine and that had no engine oil usage couldn't comment on the car engines. It does use 2-stroke engine oil in the fuel by design.
@fetB
@fetB 7 ай бұрын
so why is it not in gp or sbk, i mean why havent manufacturers adopted it
@Cxwl9
@Cxwl9 Ай бұрын
What a belter of a bike 🏍️💨💯💯👌🏻
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 Жыл бұрын
Why is that shock not tucked low and inside with a rising rate linkage on it? Bloody daft to use that configuration.
@paulbarker5915
@paulbarker5915 Жыл бұрын
Because BC don't do linkages, and weight reduction.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
Because all the vast experiments that Chrighton and his team did from the early days showed the rising rate linkage system to be far worse for rear end control than a conventional twin or single shock directly attached to the swingarm. The championship winning Duckhams bikes all had twin shock suspension.
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 Жыл бұрын
@@howardosborne8647 Sorry but that is bad research. The rising rate gives you more appropriate control throughout the shock's stroke. If you add a complex multi-stage spring and valving setup (which adds bulk and weight) then you don't need rising rate. Otherwise you do.
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Жыл бұрын
No such thing as bad research just because it doesn’t line up with your theory.
@oikkuoek
@oikkuoek Жыл бұрын
I so wish I could afford that bike..
@pauliewalnuts240
@pauliewalnuts240 Жыл бұрын
The world thinks were advanced and that consumers can buy the best cutting edge tech/machinery/vehicles. But we have what we have because of regulations, not because its the best. Rotarys and 2 strokes are 2 engine configurations that are far superior for performance applications but have been written off by major manufacturers.
@Erwt64
@Erwt64 Жыл бұрын
@4:12: More vacuum, more power, more cooling, and then the sound of more methane.
@steveh748
@steveh748 Жыл бұрын
Steve spray and Trevor nation brilliant watching them on the JPS nortons
@brittenv1000
@brittenv1000 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for a triple rotor turbo 🤘
@mrcleanisin
@mrcleanisin 19 күн бұрын
Do you have to mix oil with the gas? If so, forget it.
@rustie61
@rustie61 Жыл бұрын
Ok... you've got my attention. What's the cost???
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Believe it's £95,000 but don't hold me to that. Only interested in the engineering
@bangkokstallion
@bangkokstallion Жыл бұрын
What makes it special is Guy Martin rode it and loves it!
@MaciusSzwed
@MaciusSzwed Жыл бұрын
I would most likely buy one if it cost like a BMW S1krr or a Ducati V4 around 20k Euros! But not 120k Euros.....
@Albebacck
@Albebacck Жыл бұрын
Apples to oranges
@Ian-bq7gp
@Ian-bq7gp 2 ай бұрын
Its a bargain compared to MV Agustas and top of the range GP bikes.
@creedpowell
@creedpowell Жыл бұрын
Spondon Rotory, Yess please
@sukorcheembi1349
@sukorcheembi1349 Жыл бұрын
will this bike start a revolution?
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
10500 of them, every minute!
@kurtkaster5666
@kurtkaster5666 Жыл бұрын
I guess most people don't care, but the cloud of smoke would annoy me. Does it go away? A shot of it running without the cloud would have been awesome.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Apparently It does dissipate once the engine has warmed up, but we didn't have time to do that.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
they only smoke a little when cold just after initial start up.
@hueyvan2007
@hueyvan2007 Жыл бұрын
Why so much smoke though?
@VitaliyKhomich
@VitaliyKhomich Жыл бұрын
It burns fuel/oil mixture
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 Жыл бұрын
Only 96 subscribers??? ..... having watched THIS, I'm really not surprised! You neglected to ask him why the wheels are round?
@schraddel6571
@schraddel6571 Жыл бұрын
Most of Respect. Every time i think, the Rotary or Wankel engines are History, there are some new ones. Also Mazda surprises some weeks ago with a new fascinating Wankel.
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the range extender system?
@schraddel6571
@schraddel6571 Жыл бұрын
Yes. An intellegent system. Very interesting to me . . . . . !
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Mazda canceled the range extender
@schraddel6571
@schraddel6571 Жыл бұрын
The 35 kW/h battery with the range extender and I go to the dealer and buy one.
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
@@schraddel6571 The MX-30 was a huge flop... Mazda has announced that it will discontinue the model
@99gpandy28
@99gpandy28 Жыл бұрын
I want 1 ,I reckon it's got potential too kik arse.
@josephpsmithe
@josephpsmithe Жыл бұрын
I want one of those motors for my shifter kart….
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
If you do that, let us know because that would be something to see! If we did some videos on karts would you be interested?
@boontjes5528
@boontjes5528 Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that be a nice ad: CR700W, ‘its f-ing fast!’ 😂😂😂
@ahmadazis3593
@ahmadazis3593 Жыл бұрын
MotoGP only for Italian. They won't let this beast enter their playground. CHICKEN
@DiegoMartinezCoria
@DiegoMartinezCoria Жыл бұрын
Here I've been throwing about the idea of making a single rotor version of this with half a Renesis or 13B,..
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
Let us know how you get on
@mudpuddle8805
@mudpuddle8805 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the 600 bhp turbo version.
@ticspin4191
@ticspin4191 Жыл бұрын
Why did it generate so much white smoke? Must be suffering from oil burn 🔥, like all rotary motors.
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Жыл бұрын
Because that’s what rotary’s do. If own doesn’t do it it’s fucked.
@Team-fabulous
@Team-fabulous Жыл бұрын
When I win the lottery I'm buying 9 of these...
@denislemelin7653
@denislemelin7653 Жыл бұрын
220 HP ?!!!!! I’ll take two please !
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
One for each foot?
@ClaudeSac
@ClaudeSac Жыл бұрын
​@@TheRaceBayno dude, one for each humongous BALL! Obviously... 😂
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic design, but I don't believe reliability and emissions wise they'll be able to make it work?
@WilhelmKarsten
@WilhelmKarsten Жыл бұрын
Obsolete technology, Brian is attempting to get rich selling off his supplies of old stock Norton parts...
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Жыл бұрын
And your point is?
@posniknelb6114
@posniknelb6114 26 күн бұрын
Don't know of any 5 cylinder production bikes ??
@markwiggins4914
@markwiggins4914 8 ай бұрын
Torque curve on the wankel is wild.
@jimi1943
@jimi1943 5 ай бұрын
Where can i see it
@clivejmellis1232
@clivejmellis1232 Жыл бұрын
Great but chain driven.......so I understand the Dunlop F1 was shaft driven but was subject to failure as the only weakness - surely worth a second look ??
@TheRaceBay
@TheRaceBay Жыл бұрын
As far as I can find, all the Norton rotary race bikes, and the F1 road bike, were chain drive, or are you thinking about something else?
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRaceBay They were indeed all chain driven.
@reclez100
@reclez100 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a single rotor dirtbike
@wheressteve
@wheressteve Жыл бұрын
Rotaries make the most glorious sounds.
@jimmysparks315
@jimmysparks315 Жыл бұрын
Make a 3 rotor version...
@patch33
@patch33 Жыл бұрын
peripheral port にしては音量が低い。
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