Crimewatch Redux+ - The Murders of Lynda Mann & Dawn Ashworth

[@civilpanda9422]

So very, very sad. Two lovely young girls lost and gone forever at the hands of a piece of shite. At 15 years old they were just children. My deepest sympathy to their families and loved ones for their loss. May these young souls rest in peace.

[@elkehassell171]

Not enough credit is given to the Geniuses Scientists we have in this world. Like the DNA , what a tool to capture the real killers now.

[@Stu-SB]

Sir Alec Jefferys and his team who were just down the road from here at the University of Leicester..amazing !

[@terryyakamoto3488]

you can guarantee that if not for Sir Alec Jeffreys and DNA profiling, Richard Buckland would have done 20 years for that murder after the police bullied him into confessing

[@sophiejameson4064]

Colin Pitchfork was arrested and recalled to prison in November last year. He was caught breaching the terms of his licence, apparently by speaking to young girls. I was comforted that the authorities were clearly keeping a very close eye on the bastard. I expect he'll find parole hard to get from now on.

[@sodapop83]

raab's new criminal reform will make even harder for these mf-ers to come out

[@cynthiatolman326]

Yes, I'm grateful they were too. I agree I don't believe he'll get another chance. If the rules obligate us to release these men (mostly) they must be ready to do the same excellent job these people did, and make sure they aren't able to harm someone again. We've learned they aren't reformable.

[@ajs41]

How many millions did they spend keeping him under surveillance?

[@cynthiatolman326]

@@ajs41 They actually have people whose job is to watch these guys when they get out, so I don't believe there was a big added cost just for him. Maybe a little overtime if anything. I think the sentencing guidelines are a joke, men like this should never be free. If life actually meant life, I'd bet the violent crime rate would drop.

[@valuetraveler2026]

oh yes lets me thankful for that

[@kevinbernard9791]

Used to love watching crime watch as a teen in the 80s and couldn't wait to see the follow up 1 hour later to see what leads they had .crimewatch was just incredible

[@rayboish]

Thank heavens the woman who worked with him came forward.

[@cynthiatolman326]

If she had not more girls or young women would have died, there's no doubt.

[@cynthiatolman326]

I will second that.

[@mm3nrx]

I was held at Charles street police station on a murder charge because of this :/ 3 days held till someone told them where I was. And no I was not the one charged as in this story. Theresa big thanks for remembering where I was that night!

[@banquorebuechett9914]

He’s now in an open prison and out and about. He has murdered 2 young girls. I suspect if they were the daughters of the parole board he would still be locked up. What a joke.

[@Maz-zb9uf]

Do you know if he got release from ??

[@zagozago9893]

Unbelievable isn't it?

[@guesswho175]

He was released June 7, 2021

[@cynthiatolman326]

His staff in the open prison were paying attention and believed he was being dishonest and pulled his licence only 2 months after he got out.He has another parole hearing coming up in April 2023. I've read he had quite a bit of support. With? Only took him two months to show his lack of ability to follow the rules after decades in prison. Has anyone considered he might think the gratification he'd get raping andi murdering a girl worth going back to prison?

[@jameswells-green9476]

Seems ludicrous to parole a double murderer and rapist.

[@simondavies4834]

And now , Pitchfork has been released from prison. How can that be justified?!

[@sophiejameson4064]

He's been sent back for breaching his licence. Glad to see they kept a very close eye on him.

[@theunspokentruth5987]

Never right . Should never be out

[@traciemarsh1611]

he was took back to prison

[@hariowen3840]

'We were forced to release him.' - 'We were back to square one.' - What a fkng frightening train of thought!

[@valuetraveler2026]

the village idiot?

[@hariowen3840]

@@valuetraveler2026 Village idiot or not, he was innocent, and if it wasn't for DNA he'd have gone down for it and the real killer would have probably gone on to kill more girls.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Rest in peace Lynda and Dawn my thoughts are with your loved ones Colin is evil his poor wife Xx 😢😢

[@crossfarts1]

For anyone interested in this case and the first use of genetic fingerprinting. There is a two part mini series called The code of the killer. It's on youtube..

[@mitchbuchanan6658]

Aw brilliant thank you! I’ve just watched it! I never knew a drama was made about this case.

[@everygrainofsand]

Thank you, Mike - am about to check that out!

[@cynthiatolman326]

I found the one part, but cannot find the second. I know this comment is a year old, but perhaps you can help. Thank you

[@jeanettehinds2605]

He's a fiend. Imagine doing something so egregious, so deplorable with your baby in the back seat.

[@TheWizardOfTheFens]

He’s out now. Shocking that these people are released into the population, often with a new identity and completely unknown by the community they are settled in.

[@Del11k]

Pitchfork's new parole hearing took place on 2 and 3 October 2023. Their decision has yet to be released to the public.

[@Suzyfromtheblock]

If he’s out god help society, he will not change, Should be kept inside, and he knows it, he’s cunning and fooling them that he’s changed, like previous comments have stated, if the victims Had been one of theirs, would be a different story

[@Gubalicious]

The guy playing Colin Pitchfork did a great job. Very scary 👀

[@AlanFleming7499]

That was John Duttine who has appeared in many different shows since the 1970s possibly best known for playing Sergeant George Miller in Heartbeat. I remember him from a 1980s sitcom called Lame Ducks which I can't find anywhere but would love to see again!

[@samjoseph420]

John Duttine who plays Colin Pitchfork, is the uncle of Joe Duttine who plays Tim Metcalfe in Coronation Street.

[@Gubalicious]

Sam Joseph my cousin's aunty's next door neighbour used to be his dog walker

[@anthonymcken6050]

He's a good actor.

[@alistairbartlett6569]

​@@AlanFleming7499I remember John Duttine from "Day of the Triffids" ( don't know if it's spelt right) , and various other dramas. He wasn't in "Code of a killer" though. He did play Colin Pitchfork, but it was in a docudrama in the early naughties. His wife, Carol was played by Julie T Wallace, ( "Last of the summer wine" , "The living daylights" amongst others) . The guy who played Pitchfork in "Code of a killer" was Nathan Wright who had previously been in "Doctors" .

[@pattskatoey3139]

That silly fool taking the blood test for Colin. I don’t remember this case from when I was a child it’s only since I heard he’s been put back in jail that I know of it. He shouldn’t have been let out if they know what they know about him.

[@Paul1510WB]

Yep....a weak easily led man rather than bad.

[@ndhan72]

Pitchfork must never be released from prison.

[@redlady935]

Gosh to think previous to DNA the number of suspects who were wrongly convicted of these horrendous crimes. The police would often push people to confess.

[@gurney2931]

It doesn't reflect well on the police that so many of those wrongly convicted were village idiots, etc. DNA saved the young lad with the motorbike in this case.

[@kirstm.2215]

@futureisgosub THANK YOU for these uploads. Love finding out the b-stards have been caught! Brilliant uploads

[@bravehearticus]

@gareth roblyn Colin pitchfork was released on 7th June

[@Alessiasbackheal]

@@bravehearticus Yep fantastic ain't it , talk about injustice for the victims and a kick in the teeth for the families 😡

[@edwinawolfenden9908]

How do these people get parole

[@ollyf5088]

I dated a girl many years ago when I was a teenager who lived in the area and I remember distinctly she pointed out the entrance to Ten Pound Lane and told me a girl was murdered there. That was the first time I heard of the murders and only really now I’ve found out exactly what happened. Watching this I’m struck by how early in the day Dawn Ashworth was raped and murdered. It’s crazy that he risked this and let alone got away with it. I can’t believe after all the trouble they went to catching him they’re actually thinking of releasing the b*****d

[@redlady935]

He just had 15 years per murder. That's nothing.

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

Aww bless poor dawn… my heart hurts.. she seemed like a good girl…. Sweet little kid just going to tell her friend she’s going to babysit her brother instead of seeing her… she was a loyal friend, many families back then didn’t have phones… can’t believe he’s out… protect your daughters in Bristol… thats wer his parole hostel is…

[@geoffmagoo9367]

Hes in Southampton now Landguard Road

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

@@geoffmagoo9367 how do you know? Is he still in a hostel or his own place? I’d love to know what the conditions of his release are

[@geoffmagoo9367]

@@liverbirdxoxo1984 pictures have been on internet and on Facebook

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

@@geoffmagoo9367 oh I’m not on Facebook anymore.. thanks for the info

[@TraceyMariexx]

A parole board have just granted this monster parole :(

[@TraceyMariexx]

@@margaretbanks8969 he's not been released as yet. People aren't happy about the parole board's decision. .Hoping it can be challenged..

[@stuartcarswell2815]

He's already been out and about on day release the last 2 years....the justice secretary will make a judgement now the media is involved. Strange they didn't have an issue with it when the justice department signed off on the parole decision!

[@TraceyMariexx]

@@stuartcarswell2815 seems to pay to be a monster these days with our justice system.. Some crimes, there is no rehabilitating from and this is one of them :(

[@normasouthwood3182]

The semi educated idiots on the parole board should be in prison.

[@cynthiatolman326]

So many young girls think it will never happen to them and ignore everything they're told about being cautious.The third possible victim was older, stronger, and reacted well, but if she'd reported it, he'd have been caught and others wouldn't have been in danger. The man who took the test was clueless, I think he's long since paid for his mistake, he really didn't know, but it was the blood test that caught him. The Detective was spot on. This documentary is a prime example of a video where the soundtrack is more important than the subject. Did the composer do the editing?

[@jeanettehinds4253]

You have restored my faith in humanity. I was hoping and praying that someone would get it. And you did. So thank you.

[@jeanettehinds4253]

@@cynthiatolman326 . What are you talking about lady? Don't try subliminals on me, you are not smart enough to pull it off.

[@futureisgosub]

Colin Pitchfork had an unusual FIAT car, which you can see in the documentary, but I noticed the same car at 5.30 in the CWUK reconstruction which is scary, not many people in a village would of had that car.

[@cranebeg]

What time?

[@tirokopita]

@@cranebeg 5:30

[@cranebeg]

@@tirokopita On the driveway at 5:03 and again at 5:20 or 5:42 on the road? A few red cars in the 4th minute. Doesn't matter anyway because they just released him to go and attack again 🤔🤦‍♂️

[@k.s.333]

Joseph Wambaugh wrote a book about this called "The Blooding".

[@richinderbyshire4779]

Reading it right now

[@suzannebraham5138]

If you take someone's life then you deserve a life sentence & that means never to be released I fail to understand why he was released only trying to do the same thing again it doesn't make sense he should die behind bars for what he has done in my opinion.

[@sensiblename295]

The documentary is magnificent, especially for the casting of John 'Day of the Triffids' Duttine and Julie T 'She Devil' Wallace!

[@Paul1510WB]

No one quite gets the Leicestershire accent right though...it should sound a bit like Gary Lineker not West Midlands!

[@holtridge7337]

I remember this case from the TV program in the United States called the Forensic Files.

[@apuk79]

wasnt there a bbc crimewatch file made regarding this case or only itv?

[@joshuaedwards4536]

This was the infancy of D.N.A 1st ever being used to gather evidence in connection with serious assaults and murders, as if it wasnt for such, another man could've wrongly gone to prison, as has happened many times in the past, R.I.P to all those gone before their time......🙏🙏🙏

[@joshuaedwards4536]

@James Mitchell I've not seen that episode as yet, but am so glad Pitchfork was caught, and sentenced to life, do you think he's really fit to be released back into society as yet, yes he's served his 30 years, but he's still alive, not so for his 2 unfortunate victims, and look at the pain and anguish their families had to endure, he needs to be on very very strict license condition when he's eventually released.....

[@ajs41]

Was the second programme a Crimewatch programme?

[@yvettelingwood2458]

I think hat the actor who plays Colin Pickford went on to play Sgt Miller In heartbeat.

[@ianleslie2326]

Hello from Oz and you are indeed correct. The voice is also a giveaway.lol😁

[@Davey14]

he was out again twice and now back in.thats twice he had parole and twice he has been recalled back to prison.who in their right mind would allow this animal ever to be released is beyond me.will they let him out a third time?would not surprise me if they did.

[@oldtimer7635]

First DNA-case, interesting. Thank you science, and Dr Jeffreys specifically.

[@markbutler1836]

Not sure why the actor playing Colin Pitchfork used a West Midlands accent - when this is in Leicestershire - East Midlands and to my knowledge Colin was local through out his life in the Leicester(shire) area. The accents are very different.

[@SFNDMK]

Now he's out. For actual fuck sakes

[@valuetraveler2026]

Pitchfork is beyond repair - time to throw it away in the cosmic dustbin

[@IluvFbiFiles]

I have seen the repeats for this for years on KZbin didn't know that the offences were solved.

[@tolgahancatli7150]

Background music ?? Name ?? The cold and scary one!!!!

[@ForeverEngland76]

Theme tune to Mark Austin, Real crime. Not sure what it's called but maybe you can Google the crime series and ask what the music used was 👍

[@Irelans1888]

This case is so sad and now that Colin Pitchfork has now been released but it’s also sad to me since they went to the same school as me

[@najjers07]

A itv drama series Code of Killer was based on these murders back in 2014 i think. Very good series remembered when i saw this...

[@meyergaelle8108]

The woman 17.38 is actresses from she devil drama tv

[@gadkakurumo1273]

Justice served to that Son of a devil who raped those 2 young, innocent and good girls

[@guesswho175]

Wtf...15yrs for each girl, thats not justice

[@Alessiasbackheal]

And was released! ( now put back where he belongs ) Justice ? What fucking justice is that ?

[@valuetraveler2026]

The "fool" who did the test got lucky

[@derekstocker6661]

And someone wants to let this horror out! Totally wrong and an insult to the victims, their families AND to real justice!

[@almadavis8274]

Colin (when finally getting arrested) felt better going with the cops then staying with the wife.

[@leedummett4412]

cant believe CP has been released on parole. what were the P/BOARD thinking.

[@AndrewBush-d2j]

I live in a small Nottinghamshire town a few years ago this man murdered two wemen he was sentenced to 10 years prison he came out and murdered a 3rd lady British justice is a joke

[@alexsmith7746]

He just walked free from prison

[@traciemarsh1611]

rip to these beautiful young ladies

[@paddyolten4031]

Getting into stranger car is kind of dumb

[@olly30]

It was the 80s it happened

[@ppate8]

This is a great reconstruction and good acting

[@AS-qg1xu]

Agreed.

[@davidcouch6514]

That’s a lot of trouble to go to just to set him free.

[@jameshoughton1154]

Why is he a brummie 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@starcade90]

How stupid thumbing a lift off a stranger..

[@jeanettehinds4253]

You would be daft as an adult to walk down there alone in the dark. What were they thinking?

[@klawlor3659]

Different times pal. More naivety and innocence.

[@jeanettehinds4253]

@@klawlor3659 . The fact that she is dead, proves there were no different times.

[@klawlor3659]

@@jeanettehinds4253 True. The fact that she is dead reaffirms that there were evil people around at that time. Always has been, always will be. What I meant was people were less perceptive about the world around them back then. People seemed more "trusting". Maybe things seemed more innocent. There was certainly more of a community, for want of a better word. That doesn't mean you would trust everyone. As a young lad I knew who the "strange" people were. But people like Colin Pitchfork would definately be under the radar. Married, with kids... I remember during those times walking miles down country lanes on my own as a young boy without a second thought. Nowadays I'd be watching my young lads like a hawk, and they certainly wouldn't be down those lanes after dark.

[@richinderbyshire4779]

Wrong accent :)

[@starchild3287]

Dawn’s dad looks like mr bean

[@Horseymama1]

The music they've used doesn't fit the situation, sounds like a cheesy 80's American soap. I remember this, I'm from Leicester, it shocked me as I was the same age. And to think they've just released Oitchfork.

[@morriscox6595]

Dawn 🙏🙏, Her Father Looks like Mr Bean

[@johnbarton3252]

west midlands police setting up innocent men again through forced confessions, it was rife in the 80s

[@zagozago9893]

Buckland did know details of Dawn Ashworth's crime scene, which is why police suspected him. They suspect he found the body. and didn't report it.

[@johnbarton3252]

@@zagozago9893 Hi Zago, why on earth would you discover a dead body and not report it ?

[@williamwhitcombe6487]

You may be right of course John, but I believe that happened more in the 70s (ie; Birmingham 6 Bridgewater 4 being just 2 examples of their corrupt practices)

[@zagozago9893]

@@johnbarton3252 I have no idea but that's what they thought. He knew things which only someone who sae the body would know, like what injuries were inflicted to which parts of the body.

[@valuetraveler2026]

the village idiot asked to be arrested was seen around of the cime

[@plipertyplap4899]

Stupin rozzers ....laughable 😂

[@BossySwan]

Colin Noncefork

[@meyergaelle8108]

The killer is been freed??? 😠🙄

[@morriscox6595]

Didn't He Get out this year, 2023

[@swbcwb]

Old day's when it was a white man