Why is LEAFEON allowed to get away with this?! | Pokemon Unite

[@CrisHeroes]

would you remove Leafeon if you could?

[@AssdAwss-fe9no]

Yes, or nerf it to the ground

[@TLRhapsody]

I don’t play anymore but yes nerf the unite cooldown

[@kuroginava8498]

I would ban it together with Falinks in draft.

[@TravelingMerchant]

Yes

[@gudrunlourinho4688]

Remove ace, rest is fine

[@azm69420]

Facing leafeons when your an attacker and your tanks just dont care about you in solo queue is truly a miserable experience

[@LiveGoDaYDaYs]

brother he survive face check because Umbreon Buddy barrier and wiggly was there

[@priyanshdhurve4520]

​@@LiveGoDaYDaYs He is not talking about him . he's talking about unit players

[@talonted1]

Shhh the slowbro is farming the indeedees 😹😹😹

[@blameitondanny]

You know that feeling when you see a lv. 9 Charizard approaching you? I swear I got the same feeling everytime I pass by Leafeon. I swear the unite cooldown on that thing is 0 sec 🤣

[@ThomasBeGaming-bo5ff]

Charizard mains be uniting 0.2 nanoseconds after getting level 9

[@XParasiteOctoling]

@@ThomasBeGaming-bo5ff Cause that’s the only thing good about charizard

[@demonico917]

​@@XParasiteOctoling Charizard Unite Move carries the Pokemons entire kit. The moment it's level 9 ... it instills fear to many. And now they're gonna buff said Pokemon... 🥲

[@DarkGaming-cb3dd]

Evees in cartoon: ♥️🥰. Evees in unite: ☠️🌚💀.

[@Hampter492]

So true

[@raven2770]

Lol fr

[@XParasiteOctoling]

People kinda forgot about Leafeon when they started demanding for Zoroark nerfs

[@rasyawahyu4283]

But Zoroark is also cringe

[@lloydter]

Zoroark players can do far more criminal things and still escape without much consequences. So yeah zoro's cd nerfs are more necessary than leafeon tbt.

[@xx-weirdboi-xx3553]

​@@lloydterthats cool. But leafeon does the same without any risk and skill required

[@iaminteleon]

or just kill two birds with one stone and nerf them both , like an ACTUAL nerf cuz they been too soft with nerfing speedsters

[@lloydter]

@@xx-weirdboi-xx3553 yes leafeon requires less skill but is still far more punishable then zoroark. Even while losing my combos as zoroark i get out alive like 6/10 times bcoz both my dash moves are at absurdly low cds. And truthfully feint attack zoroark doesn't even have that high of a skill cap.

[@Ctacobell]

As leafeon you always get your team ahead in the beginning of the match but your team will always find a way to be completely useless and INT making the game really hard for you later in the match

[@Dazzlite0_0]

Fr💀 I always feel like I have to be at every fight because they lose so quickly, I swear, I leave them to handle ONE objective while I go score, and somehow they lose it

[@Ctacobell]

@@Dazzlite0_0 FAAAAACTS

[@RedHairyFox]

Don’t worry, the solution to this is needing the player to be bad, I got one that had leftovers and he did the lowest damage, a great nerf I suppose

[@LunarBraixen]

I'm sorry, but giving Delphox it's first move at level 5 would genuinely ruin the character. Having a good first lane gank snowballs into way too much EXP gains, invalidating the resource game that makes this character so interesting and challenging. Once you assemble exodia in the late game (level 13, blue buff, full CDR items/emblems) you become so strong that you genuinely are worth half your team and can swing games that look doomed. Giving mediocre players access to that kind of power will ruin Delphox forever.

[@CrisHeroes]

Yea but eevees starting at level 4 with stronger moves than delphoxes level 6 is fair I guess

[@LunarBraixen]

Learning both moves at 6 should be fine if you really want to push Delphox a bit. Flame charge at 6 won't cause that much of a snowball. Personally, I would rather they make it so you can cancel Delphox's ult animation before doing anything else. Being stuck in place for a second feels extremely awkward if you're not playing fire spin to combo with it.

[@xENDEMONIADOx]

"Cris, did you know Spragels died of ligma?" -rogue_karnetik, 2024

[@Arceud]

Cris losing with Flame Charge Delphox is not possible

[@Luki-1331]

Like Jesse Pinkman said when he saw Eevolutions in Unite: *THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IIITT*

[@RyansChannel0203]

It's crazy to me how they only nerfed Solar Blade, which was the less broken build. Lol

[@kuroginava8498]

I hate how easy it is for it to escape, if you cant oneshot it it always gets away .

[@ydgmdlu]

That's why I love Leafeon though

[@ItzMiKeKirbY]

I was expecting the lv 4 gank or jungle invade. This was a relatively tame Leafeon. Which is even more infuriating and shows that the absolute BS that Leafeon is. The Pokemon absolutely pisses me off. Both Leafeon and Dodrio movement speed passives should not be the amount it should be.

[@Snerff]

Saying delphox should evolve at level 5 is a insane take

[@j_r28]

Can't agree more, also would like to point out, all the eevees are disgusting, they evolve at 4, gets unite at 8, runs the game for 8-9 minutes straight. Their late game should be equivalent to the early game of late scaling mons, but unfortunately that isn't the case.

[@kianlong16]

leafeon cant carry late games, there is no point in crying

[@Lumen824]

thats what im saying, he’s good for 1v1 picking off people who wander off. if theres more than one person there leafeon cant do much at all. cris just complains about everything

[@Agent-pd6wx]

Yes it can?

[@foxshinehiyaa3933]

Tf are you on ? He literally can delete the carry in late game and has still a massive burst damage and can basically still wipe the enemies team if they are in not good state

[@Lumen824]

@@foxshinehiyaa3933 note you say when the team is already not in a good state. pretty much any pokemon would be able to. any sort of stunning destroys leafeon. if you try and be oppressive end game you will get shredded very fast. his hp pool is designed to get in and get out of fast fights with one or 2 people. late game you have to wait around for the enemy team to already be pretty much half picked off at least, making the fight for them 4v5. aint as strong as everyone seems to think. yeah he is good early game just like meowscarada is

[@Salientspeaker56]

@@foxshinehiyaa3933 What are you smoking? Leafeon is only good with enemies with no mobility, attackers or allrounders. He can't fight with stunners at all. IF the enemy has two stunners, its just GG because if they are always in a fight, leafeon must ambush instead of head on. If he deals with a team with no mobility and no CC, then he would destory them since his mobility shines there. Stunners? No way he can survive them even with a unite to the face. In late game, he can only get in a fight once the enemy use their unites or are low hp so he can clear the battle. So, he relies on his teamates which you know most of them can't help themselves. Don't try to argue he is that good. I play with him many times and he is just a better version of greninja. Strong but weak at the same time.

[@unamusedheavy1885]

In general, early game scaling is cursed

[@SFSR6]

Leafeon should reach high dmg after charging the beam, not with just 1 tap

[@demonico917]

Exactly. It's so obnoxious I swear. Imagine Slowpoke tapping Water Gun and it does all high damage, no charge required... 🙄

[@hayatedoa]

Increase the cooldown on her unite move and switch when she gets her level 4 and level 6 moves.

[@incubusgarden]

Mew has been nerfed roughly meanwhile Leafeon avoids nerfs and when get nerfs those arent solid.

[@zikhrokohaku]

As the main player of Azumarill and Glaceon, I don't think I've ever had a problem with Leafeon, he's a squiz, it's very easy to beat him, I think what needs to be removed is that his passive meowscrada is very annoying and his damage is too high. :3c

[@user-ke1no7xo9i]

Omg cris ur so dramatic, you won the match in the end. “Doesn’t matter how the match starts, but how it ends” -Sun Tzu, Art of War

[@Agent-pd6wx]

Winning doesn't make Leafeon any less op

[@foxshinehiyaa3933]

Bro I won vs tyranitar before his nerf so that means that this mon is not op

[@user-ke1no7xo9i]

@@Agent-pd6wx I mean it kinda does, like I said it’s the end game that counts. I mean despite leafeon being “op” it still lost in the end, use your brain my guy it’s simple logic

[@Benito20]

You can counter Leafeon Unite with Dragapult Dragon dance and with level 11 you gain a lot of healing back.

[@smoothsinger422]

Leafeon is my number one ban right now. I feel like it gets away with so much stuff for free it's insane. I hate it so much.

[@adachicabbagez3639]

Leafeon does a 2023 Urshifu/Zacian level of early game bullying and doesn't catch enough flack for it I need it nerfed and deleted ASAP!!

[@UltimateRaven]

Solar Blade is no longer the move of choice for Leafeon anymore as Razor Leaf is still as strong as ever. Now, I expect that move to be nerfed as well in the coming patch.

[@huilu2434]

I played cinderace one time and the leafeon did the exact same thing. But we decimated him at the end lol

[@watchgamezgo7146]

Leafeon doesnt need to be removed thats nonsense 😂, it can easily just be nerfed

[@laisraposodematosbezerra3778]

I play defender because of lefeon, It is só annoying

[@eeveefan95]

Ok i want to start this off by saying, yes leafeon does need a nerf. but I don't think nerfs are gonna fix the real big problem, and thats timi's weak neaf and ridiculous buff, and my evidence are meowscarada and mimikyu, now some of you probably forget meow got nerf a few patch back, and that probably because the "nerf" on meow was minus 30 point to meow base attack stats, which isn't a lot but maybe it could've worked if wasn't for the fact meow criti a lot thus making the nerf kinda worthless, it like when game freak nerf urshifu single strike wicked blow by 5 point even tho the move always criti. Now I don't think I need to explain about mimikyu, it was good before the buff and then became amazing after the buff, with timi buffing the moves that didn't need buff and not buffing the move that really needed a buff or rework. Inshort, I think timi really need nerf most of the mons in the game instead of buffing them, making most of the mons in really broken, and of course have nerfs that actually nerf the mon, like buzzwole nerf. This is of course my opinion on timi nerf and buff and if you disagree then fine I guess. (And yes I don't like timi buff a mon just because they got a nice outfit coming out)

[@zachpayne4478]

Leafeon is my favorite Pokémon but yeah there’s no reason it should be able to run freely first few minutes of the game

[@thefatherthesonandtheholys9508]

Idk why Timi favors all the Evvee evolutions. Seems like they all get a pass when it comes to nerfs.

[@AnkitSharma-ik9ob]

7:46 lucky af

[@HatonHe]

Blue was being jumped by whole team☠️☠️

[@toasteroven6761]

When the defenders (including Wiggly) are in position to help and the Leafeon is in a bad situation (didn't have Unite up to burst with Azu).

[@AnkitSharma-ik9ob]

@@toasteroven6761 sleep stun and umbreon unite actually saved cris otherwise it will be game over for him

[@markmushyguy]

I agree- Im sick of the eveelutions getting favoritism. It’s annoying. However, I think Meowscarada needs a huge gutting nerf bc I’m sick of it. No one talks about how broken Meowscarada is and how hard it is to take down. Id rather deal with Leafeon than that ugly ass cat

[@LiveGoDaYDaYs]

X speed should be nerf that slow immunity on top of fast movespeed and low cd is too good and versatile

[@CrisWas_Taken]

Leafeon is just “Him”. Also it doesn’t help that mages are literal food for leafeon to feast on(at least good leafeon players). Some players get ahead of themselves & start selling the game when it matters most.

[@Bruhbros59]

Bro I’ve been saying Leafeon is broken and ppl are like “Leafeon isn’t all that”. Solar Blade was so busted which I’m glad they nerfed the moveset but they only nerfed solar blade and I was like well ppl are gonna move to aerial ace razor leaf and still dominate. And that’s exactly what happened! Leafeon just needs to be nerfed to the point where it’s not playable cuz I’m tired of seeing that mon.

[@YosiahW]

Who do you think has the best scaling for lvl 4 & 5? I personally think it's Leafeon and Zoroark.

[@nelsonl5501]

I think the nerf to eavee should be making it evolve at lv5 And first move and second move at lv5 and lv7

[@keithyeo1675]

I had a 28 KO in master rank using Leafeon. I agreed is too much damage.

[@wickedwiccann]

the evolution system is so bad now, like what's the point of having characters be purposefully bad early game if mons with good early games are just as good if not better lmao

[@rasyawahyu4283]

The Gyatt Eeveelution

[@pokefanbruh2]

The only mon that needs to be removed from that game is Sableye, no shade.

[@SnowFleiqs]

I just hope leafeon gets gutted Theres no reason for everything on it's simple kit be this strong and dodged nerfs for many patches

[@demonico917]

I truly hope the day arrives where all Eevees get hit with the G.E.N (Global Eevee Nerf) Evo level changed from 4 to 5 Unite Move changed from 8 to 9 Stored Power, NERFED Mean Look / Wish, NERFED Icicle Spear, NERFED Hyper Voice, NERFED Leafeon, NERFED Make all Eevees D Tier 4EVER !!!

[@fadedBLAZE89]

To be fair if you calling for leafeon nerfs, all the Eevees should be nerfed too.

[@FuyuBankeretsu]

We needmore eeveeloutions

[@Lumen824]

funny to hear cris complain about leafeon lol. he’s meant for 1 on 1 and cant be used in much else. used to pick off stragglers that divide from their team, while be oppressive early game. other than that he cant do very much, he feels like an actual “speedster”, should not be nerfed imo with how squishy he can be if not careful

[@Lucarecus]

I mean the Ariel ace cooldown is fun when you play it but it's not fun when you are up against it You can escape easily in many scenarios unless you are cc locked Leafeon can get your team so ahead in early game cuz it's an "evee " Not to mention its unite cooldown doesn't exist even when I play defender, support I get leafeon unite moved for no reason (atleast you can damage it during the unite animation which is nice) I think timi should just do something about late ,mid power spike pokemon if they don't want to nerf the evees

[@Lucarecus]

Atleast make it so the jungle can't be invaded till the second tier goals are broken Idk maybe that might not be right though but lvl7 -lvl9 three stage Pokemon really can't do much about invades and stuff

[@HappyHamster-xc5ov]

Cris think that only he plays the game not other

[@foxshinehiyaa3933]

​@@HappyHamster-xc5ovleast obvious leafeon player :

[@foxshinehiyaa3933]

Leafeon absolutely deserved to be nerfed this mon is insane in early game insane in middle game and insane in late game a pokemon that evolve so fast shouldn't be this good in all of those things like at all

[@raizen4597]

I rather remove support pokemon, i hate duo/trio that can abuse this because they had comunication.

[@ElCornpop]

I would remove CrisHeroes from the game. Every time I see him play he's OP. 😂

[@TyLWMain]

Anyone playing rank vet4? I’m stuck solo queuing and people leaving

[@tylermccolley6718]

Delphox needs to get an early game buff to withstand the broken eevee evolutions and other early game pokemon.

[@user-jt6hm1uc8n]

CryHeroes 😭por qué lo focusean 🤣🤣

[@manuelarocho8131]

Removed would be nice. Stupid leaf thing. and its a speedster so people have high ego and whatnot

[@wizzster69]

delete all eeveelutions

[@raptorrex]

Remove it yep

[@fzen788]

hey chris, have you tried getting gud?

[@TravelingMerchant]

Leafeon players are cringe

[@lloydter]

I have became insensitive to all this evee and all are too broken crap. All i need is more mons, specifically the older ones, to be buffed to counter the power creep that new mons had created so we have more mons to rotate around. And in recent times the only eveelution that irks me is umbreon aside from that the other just feels eh whatever.

[@lloydter]

Since people hate evee for their power creep so much timi should just make their stats scaling more steep and then add some more nerfs to mons like umbreon and leafeon but even that is too big of a burden for them.

[@Tobias_youtube]

Eevees are unfair. Umbreon - mean look + cc ingnore Glaceon - point n click move. Leafeon - u see in this video. Espeon and sylveon are better, but... Espe has cc ignorance + million stuns and pretty high damage, while sylveon has a lot of sustain. All Unite moves at lvl 8 (!) Get a boost while played together. (Rework em please😭)

[@emmanuelcalla4899]

All evee's are good mons, you guys already took out Espeon and Glaceon off the map and now you want Sylv and Leaf's head? Get good!

[@blameitondanny]

The scaling for eeveelution is a joke and if you think Espeon and Glaceon is bad, then as you said "Get good".

[@TravelingMerchant]

You completely missed the point

[@emmanuelcalla4899]

Espeon and Glaceon were fine and you guys got them nerfed to the ground. Now you are gonna complian about how good sylv and leaf are so nobody gets to have fun.

[@villiantillian258]

​@@emmanuelcalla4899Espeon received too much for very little effort/skill (and I love espe so im not speaking as a hater, it's just the truth) and glaceon's best move was overtuned. Espeon is still in a fine place overall. Glaceon I think got her ice shard hit a bit too harshly by the end of it, but the icicle spear nerfs were fair game.

[@emmanuelcalla4899]

@@villiantillian258 and how come Glaceon got nerfed to unviability while we have that infinite range Mewtwo move and that also infinite range big damage Mew charged attack that have the same tracking mechanic and nobody complaints about those huh?

[@j_n_c_p_m]

you were just salty this game. you even forced that unite @ 3 minutes left.

[@Agent-pd6wx]

He can cuz Delphox will have it before Ray

[@GarethXL]

all the eveelution needs a buff 😀

[@HappyHamster-xc5ov]

Dude play all rounder have problem with defender And playing attacker have problem with Speedster 🤡

[@foxshinehiyaa3933]

That doesn't work like that buddy because I can say that with every pokemon in the game dude

[@Lucky_777_Wins]

Cris always complains about every mon so devs overnerf them and then nobody plays them buzzwole,Blastoise,clefable and so on. I know leafeon is op in early game but devs overnerf most mons so their winrates become lowest

[@StickBruh3rd]

So you want to play against pre-nerf Blastoise, Clefable and Buzzwole as a melee pokemon. Yes, They are necessary to be Nerf, but the Dev when a bit overkill.

[@btoosmaged4882]

@@StickBruh3rdblastoise and buzzwole are still fine its only water spout blastoise that got gutted This honestly shows the current of unite players honestly a mon that lost its ability to stun people ti death is weak now according to unite players

[@skorchtheyapper]

Bro as Spragels said nobody plays buzzwole becuase they think it’s bad, THEY ARE BAD WITH IT. Buzzwole is balanced .

[@sei7015]

Bro, you bring the worst examples XD Three of them still are Pretty good , Surf hydro Is still annoying and Powerful, Buzzwole now Is balance at the late game with not Chaín CC to Death , and clefable Is a súper good Pokémon because supports are busted Idk how people got negative winrate with this mons

[@PoKe_SpArKy_YT]

1❤ bro i am in your unite squad name GODFIRE_YT

[@PoKe_SpArKy_YT]

In expert its my second id my first id name is SpArKy_YT