Critical Drinker - Why Does Hollywood Keep Rebooting Old Movies?

[@ChrisWillx]

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[@RPRsChannel]

*_I haven't had time to listen to the full pod, but did you discuss "Animated Gingers=African Americans in the Live Action version?_*

[@NormanReaddis]

If you want to have short, post the tree update lol

[@macmac1022]

Because creative thinking is being replaced by being offended and has caused limitations that real writers dont want to deal with, just like comedians.

[@aquiace]

It's a triple strategy: 1. You have a pre-built vehicle to push your message. 2. You can destroy something that is beloved by those you hate. 3. When they become rightfully upset, you can attack them with impunity

[@jonathan4831]

I doubt Disney execs care about customers enough to hate them. I agree with your first statement but instead of message, I'd say push a product. People are still buying the product so those who are upset are easy to ignore.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

4) You also own the franchise, so there are no copyright issues to deal with. 5) Hollywood is horribly risk-averse right now. There's an old slogan, "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM." If there's a safe, boring alternative to taking a chance, studios will take it. This is about studio executives, covering their asses. No matter how crappy a remake is, these execs can always shift the blame from themselves to the fans. "This should have worked! They liked it before!"

[@maxjohnson1758]

Well said.

[@Arthas30000]

Exactly.

[@kaiiheenjik1668]

Long term results: zero money

[@wholderby]

I think Sylvester Stallone is a good example of being a writer who created his down and out Rocky and it was so gritty and real because he was struggling to pay rent and had issues even buying dogfood. Rocky is Sly - had he been a rich kid who slid into a writer role he would not have had Rocky in him (in all likelihood)

[@bob1986]

As someone pointed out several times "old" Hollywood people typically had real life experience in the professional world prior to going to Hollywood. Gene Roddenberry for example served in the military and then worked as police for several years before getting into showbusiness and eventually creating Star Trek. Almost nobody in Hollywood these days does that, they go from High School to college to working in Hollywood having never left the So Cal bubble. The fact that they had to coin a term Nepotism Babies as kids of industry people who were raised in it and joined when old enough as so many people in the business these days kind of explains alot. It's why wokeness and identity politics is so big there. That's probably the harshest thing those people had to deal with in their pampered So Cal lives.

[@jackdeniston59]

@@bob1986 This is also why academia is so bizzare. They really only live in abstracted interpretations of interpretations. You still need a hammer to put in a nail

[@haveaday1812]

@@bob1986 You throw that SoCal term around a lot. I think you men L.A. a lot of SoCal is an awesome place full of very good people, some of whom come nothing as well. Don’t drag SoCal around like that.

[@NoticerOfficial]

@@haveaday1812 until we see some city councils, mayors, judges and DAs change in so cal, it’s so cal.

[@georgebailey8179]

Sly was offered a six-figure sum for the rights to make the movie, because the studios didn't want him in the lead. That must have been a great temptation for a struggling actor, especially when you allow for inflation since the '70s. But Sly was determined to star in the movie rather than sell out.

[@brz757]

Blows my mind how Disney hands off billion dollar films to people who did one ok episode of a show. Or in the case of rings of power, never got a script for anything made.

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

They think they're being clever handing that stuff to nobodies because they can manipulate and bully the director/writers who have no authority. However the joke's on them because the content they produce is shit. You need incredibly talented individuals to make great stuff that people want to spend money on.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

They hired people who made a few episodes of television to make Captain Marvel why wouldn't they. I mean they gave billion dollar franchise to the guys who made you me and dupree. They had zero cred or experience. Russo brothers for example.

[@jazzywayz9773]

Its because the ones they hire are "part of the club" as Ice Cube said in his interview with Tucker. Also, they are hiring fellow college graduates who subscribe to their same socio political cultural ideology. Simple.

[@MrToren01]

god i miss those mid tier movies from the early mid 90's to early 2000's those were usually just 90 mins of pure entertainment with little to no special effects, one of my all time favorite is V for Vendetta its budget was a bit more around 54 million but was still an amazing movie that ended up making like 130 million worldwide and made more from DVD sales.

[@stevenavarro]

If V for vendetta would have come out in 2009 instead of 2006, it would have resonated EVEN MORE with the people. Ron Paul people, anonymous (the hackers) and more used the guy fawkes masks. Problem was, the British people were ugly. If Colin Farell was the lead detective like in minority report it would have been immediately obvious the two of them would come to have a confrontation before the end. Have a nice day!

[@mygamechannel2300]

Current social media and internet made it almost impossible for mid tier movies to finde it's "niche" audience. If studio release mid tier movie, Critical Drinker, twitter and other movies "expert" will shred it to oblivion making their "niche" audience doesn't even have a will to watch it anymore when these "critics" already said that it's garbage. A lot of people end up just watch Critical Drinker, other movies "expert" roast this mid tier movies than watch the movie it self.

[@JumpingJack6]

You can go all the way back from the mid 70s through and upto late 1990's, and early 2000's, the greatest period of artistic expression and cinema .... woke took over and is working to systematically dismantle it.

[@Blazee2897]

@@mygamechannel2300 They had critics back then. Idk why you're acting like movie critics are a new thing. Roger ebert hated famous movies like waterboy and constantine but they still made bank. No, the real reason is that piracy and inflation destroyed the mid-tier movie market. People are just not willing to spend so much money to watch non-blockbuster movies anymore

[@MrKinghuman]

V for vendetta is an all time classic. I never deemed it mid tier. But I see your point

[@naughtyhieroglyph669]

The creatives left hollywood. They were chased out after the writers guild was crushed in the late 90s. The creatives left the movie industry and are in other industries now.

[@30noir]

Ironically there is at the same time a massive amount of disrespect for the craft of writing, creating narratives and believable characters. Instead all the directors seem to be thinking 'I can do that, too' and that's how we get monstrosities like Love and Thunder or Wonder Woman 1984...

[@brgessner]

@@30noir I mean the bar is set pretty low...

[@BK-hp8cj]

@@30noir It's because they can pump them out faster without needing to come up with a new idea. Just rebuild already existing ones. It's lazy as is much of the world now.

[@reaktorleak89]

I saw a Hollywood writer talk about the purge of white writers and directors over the past four years, that it’s a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@aaronrumph3291]

Yeah like Disney's Pixar

[@McJuggins]

Can they reboot making good movies again 😂

[@lonewolf9578]

Amen

[@user61696]

Loll

[@aliwilkinson2485]

Critical Drinker's voice and impeccable articulation gets me through work daily

[@bigneiltoo]

1999 had a lot of great low budget movies like Blair Witch Project, American Beauty, Office Space and Fight Club.

[@chasehedges6775]

20000s were also pretty good year for films

[@nomo3013]

All years pre 2015ish were great for film. Ha

[@jayhendrix7343]

When a small group for sundance makes a film on nothing but ideas and a script make a movie like blair witch, which was a unique and creative horror flick which these hollywood clowns need millions in effects to do the same damn thing tells you how bad todays shit is. I miss the older films to the point i dont even watch todays crap. .02

[@destinyhntr]

I agree about the career path. It's such a different experience to read Tolkien or George Orwell and see how their pasts come into their writing. These men have fought in wars and seen communism rise and fall. Writers nowadays are desperate for that same level of excitement but have no real enemies to fight, so they end up making up their own and creating stereotypes/flat characters and villains.

[@kamchatmonk]

Fun fact: Orwell did not experience communism. He based 1984 on his experience from working at BBC.

[@DangerZone200]

@@kamchatmonk THAT is hilarious

[@christophertaylor9100]

I think part of it is copyright protection (keep control over these characters) and part of it is just greed. It lets them do a big international release of the same product.

[@johno1544]

Copyright is based on time not whether you use it or not. There are some contracts with IP rights where they have to be used in a certain time or they can revert back to another party but that has nothing to do with copyright law.

[@jointkay-y5i]

I dunno why people are surprised that Disney is remaking everything. Remakes are their bread and butter. 90% of disneys biggest hits (eg. The princesses) are remakes of classic.

[@Arassar]

Exactly. They built their company on fairy tales and children's stories made into movies

[@kit888]

There's a difference between adapting a third party book into an animated movie, and adapting your own animated movie into a live action movie. The first is not a remake. Nobody calls Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, remakes.

[@toadster464]

Not only that, it reups the copyright that Disney monopolizes over these stories.

[@jointkay-y5i]

@Kit Fair point. But the idea still remains. Disney is not a creative company. They use other people's creations and reshape them with their formula.

[@c.a.t4607]

They are almost all clones of each other as well

[@jonathan4831]

I work in sales and see this with a variety of industries. Companies don't create and innovate new products because they don't have to. People will pay to see remakes, so minimal incentive to create new movies.

[@franciscooctavius5957]

Hearing Drinkers voice and seeing him without his trademark shades on just throws me off completely lol. Love these super intelligent interviews you and he have been doing. Need more of these please! Great insight into todays writers versus old day writers. Excellent !

[@gregsmith7949]

The Drinker is the best reviewer of films, TV, and pop culture out there right now. No one comes close.

[@bigneiltoo]

I worked for Electronic Arts back in the mid 2000s. Even back then which is 17 years ago now, they only wanted to do remakes of existing games. It's too risky to try a new franchise. The problem is they try to add woke elements now.

[@Jaywall1111]

Yeah like adding chest scars to sims characters from getting your boobs cut off.

[@archersterling6726]

I want cinemas to bring more foreign movies like RRR or those crazy action asian flicks. More competition.

[@brucewilson3619]

I can think of two movie reboots that did work on one or more versions: A Star is Born and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

[@utarefson9]

When we're talking about older movies, the remake of The Thing is pretty beloved as well.

[@brucewilson3619]

I agree. The practical effects are still amazing.

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

I feel the need to point out that those are _remakes,_ not reboots, which aren't quite the same thing. A remake is just a one-shot redo of an existing movie, for example, "The Postman Always Rings Twice.' A reboot is an attempted relaunch of a series, for example, 'Casino Royale,' the reboot of the Bond franchise, or the 'BS:G' reboot. I only mention this because with few exceptions, reboots are far more likely to be a garbage attempt to squeeze a last few drops out of a cash cow rather than about any affection or creative inspiration around the original work that might inspire a remake. John Carpenter wanted to remake 'The Thing' because he loved the Christian Nyby version, a very different but still awesome movie.

[@rofyle]

All Quiet On the Western Front is a remake of a remake. Other remakes/reboots that worked: Godzilla It Dune Casino Royale Batman Begins 3:10 to Yuma Dredd Evil Dead Rise of the Planet of the Apes True Grit The Fly The Hills Have Eyes Scarface 12 Monkeys A Fistful of Dollars . . . and the greatest reboot of all time . . . The Lord of the Rings People forget that this was a reboot of a much earlier animated film. There have been plenty of very good reboots and remakes. And this doesn't even count television series' either, like 21 Jump Street.

[@brucewilson3619]

I get your point, though I think the reboot must stand on it own and not be just an episode of something larger.

[@HandlesAreStupid2024]

The absolute collapse of physical media/books/etc is going to bite us in the ass so hard.

[@ZwiekszoneRyzyko]

I love movies like Guy Ritchies "Snatch". No female protagonist, lotsa guys, great story, a masterpiece. Hollywood seems to hate those nowadays.

[@Blazee2897]

Why do you hate female protagonists?

[@bigneiltoo]

@@Blazee2897 Why do we hate female protagonists (besides Princess Leia, Ripley, Sara Connor and Frances McDormand in Fargo)? Maybe we just hate seeing them beat up four Navy Seals with no training? Maybe we call bunk when we see some 16 year old chick show Han Solo how to fly the Millennium Falcon with no training? Why do you hate white, heterosexual men is a better question? Funny how your female protagonists never use the ultimate force: feminine energy.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@Blazee2897 Why do you love pretending women can do anything men can do (besides not be offended that I said that)?

[@JaaronOP]

​@@Blazee2897 where did he say he hated women?

[@Blazee2897]

@@JaaronOP "no female protagonist, lotsa guys"

[@jeidafei1165]

So true about having lived life. My dad grew up poor and had to work in dangerous, physical jobs from when he was a kid. And he never runs out of stories to tell. Both his own and of all the people he'd met through the decades. He would often push me not to take the easy path, or whenever I lamented being poor and surrounded by rich friends, having to fight and compete for success, "Imagine the stories you would tell kids when you're my age. Will you have anything as cool as mine? Will you know as much? Will you be able to answer all their questions like I did yours? And what would your rich friends tell their kids?", he said, "You wanted to go on a plane, you competed with kids across the country for a full scholarship. Your friend quit her job to go on a world tour on Daddy's money. Whose story will people want to hear?" If it can't be helped that you grew up with no struggles, then what you can do is listen to stories from older people, and people who do know real struggle. That's what journalists, authors and screenwriters used to do. It's called research. But of course, people don't want to listen to anyone's story other than their own anymore ^^''.

[@RockosdogSpunky]

Those heavy rains followed by a freeze are rough. I grew up in a pretty rural part of East Texas where there's ALOT of trees and we had one of those events. We didn't have power for two weeks because so many power lines were damaged.

[@brucewilson3619]

Another problem is that many scripts are written by committees.

[@Crimzon_Nova]

The short answer, they’ve run out of ideas, so they gotta remake old ones to modern times to earn a paycheck. And depending how they “remake” is, an ego satisfaction.

[@DieWitness]

a different world it may be but who made it ? they've only themselves to blame when my young nephew turned his back on Western entertainment and started watching 90's Anime ( under his mom's watchful eye ) I felt my heart lift a little

[@ajsouza3720]

Fullmetal Alchemist

[@johnediii]

Almost 20 years ago, the speaker giving commencement address at my Alma Mater was a movie exec. He said that it was coming because the name recognition would make up for spending less on the marketing budget.

[@thekingdommovieschannel]

The point made about how the writers of the 70's & 80's had lived their lives is spot on , the same can be said about songwriting and bands of that era, bands in the 70's & 80's had to play the dive bars , go on the road to try and make it, then came the dark times, x facter etc. dog shit

[@robertprice4826]

It's basically to extend the copyrights before it expires.. Hint Disney remakes

[@NJGuy1973]

Thank you. Finally, someone who gets it.

[@stevenavarro]

I remember hearing 10 years ago that because of the DVD thing, they don't make any more mid budget action movies like "Borne identity". Just small budget things and marvel

[@bob1986]

Every since the advent of home video in general (But espeically DVD and Blu Ray) they've been at odds with people who would rather just wait a few months to a year for a home release rather than go to the theatre so they try to make everything a huge spectacle that you have to see on a big screen to get the most out of in their eyes. My mom for example hasn't gone out to the movies in almost 40 years because she'd rather watch them at home where she can pause to take bathroom breaks and make popcorn and watch from the comfy couch than in the theatre.

[@The_Mighty_Fiction]

Razorfist called it 'debooting.' Seems more appropriate, I think.

[@bandiras2]

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made”

[@louisvanderwalt2820]

These are very insightful and interesting points made. I also believe that the love, care, and passion for the craft have dwindled because, in many aspects of filmmaking, it requires much less love, care, and passion to produce the final product

[@elrobbio1]

I think so much about a comment Jeremy Clarkson made on Clarkson’s Farm when he was looking for farm equipment. He said Amazon wanted to get as much diversity as they could in the show. He looked around and said, well, here I have every type of 60 year old white man in existence. Almost pissed myself laughing.

[@TurtleChad1]

At this point Hollywood should reboot every single release and my make every character black.

[@sambal777]

Were getting there...

[@Wickedtingzz]

Hey what about brown … mix it up for inclusiveness you.. you … well you know the buzz word haha

[@Goatlikeitornot]

I just heard that they'll make a new Lord of the Rings movies for modern audience, the end is near.

[@jesse.ruxspin]

No

[@Wickedtingzz]

@@Goatlikeitornot a movie about Russ yelling and women and children would do better than a lord of the rings without viggo the goat mortinsen

[@meganfoster8838]

Those reactions when Chris heard the tree falling - proof that suspense, excitement and tension does not require CGI but a good Foley artist and expressive actors. Was I the only one who enjoyed that moment?

[@robertdepesci3418]

Old disney movies like beauty and the beast were magical. That magic has been lost for a while.

[@DoctorJay184]

I noticed what appears to be a greyhound behind Critical Drinker. Hats off good sir for giving one of these beautiful animals a home.

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

Movies could get away with being less expensive if the producers would focus less on the effects budget and more on the actual storytelling. Good storytelling works in all forms of media.

[@WillFredward7167]

Seriously… Writing just requires one talented person and a couple similarly capable people to doublecheck and give feedback. One of the least expensive aspects of an entire production can result in a brilliant film. Instead, they skip the cheapest and most important step and dive directly into the insanely expensive aspects, and it all collapses in on itself cuz the writing barely even exists. The best novels sell insane numbers of copies, and they are literally ONLY writing. It is such a strange thing to fall by the wayside. Simple economic sense would suggest you get as much as possible out of the aspects of a project that don’t cost you millions

[@WillFredward7167]

As for Harvey Weinstein… the reaction has just become insane. When someone turns out to be rotten, you acknowledge it and give that person what he deserves. But to then spend years denigrating that person’s entire demographic is the most unjust and contemptible thing. Imagine if a black woman committed a crime at her workplace, and so every black woman who worked there got demoted. It is similarly stupid to make belittle millions of people because one guy deserved to get punted into space

[@stevepowden4560]

The commentary about today's writers, and where they came from was spot on. Unfortunately it is unlikely to change any time soon.

[@nklinef]

It is to destroy nostalgia and rewrite history. I think George Orwell put it best: "The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth."

[@chasehedges6775]

That is absolutely scary to think about, tbh

[@SmileyEmoji42]

Rebooting the plot can work - It's called a sequel - The same characters in a different plot. Rebooting the characters cannot. People talk about their top 10 favorite actors. Nobody talks about their top 10 favorite plot lines.

[@LittleMAC78]

From the perspective of story telling mechanics, are there even 10 distinct plots?

[@gtrmcs]

I like William laugh 1:00 😁😁That where I like it . He is great in his analysis and give perspective

[@Ironcabbit]

If at some point later my children harp on about wanting to see some rebooted franchise movie, it will be mandatory that they watch the original film with me. Now, they may like the reboot better - and that’s fine - but I’m guessing a couple rounds of this will discourage them from the reboot fad.

[@macrosense]

Many of their movies are based on old folk tales. The original folk tales or myths or historical events or plays were often far more brutal than the Disney movies. So, they should just find other old folk tales to saccharine up.

[@javierk2143]

I thought the main reason was that studios either want huge budget movies to make more revenue or just tiny independent movies for their actors/directors to shine The mid-tier movies are going away

[@supergitartwork]

5:42 The Ice Storm... That's a good movie

[@KongKaiju]

This full podcast was dope af. Glad to have a couple gentleman speak some real facts on what’s going on.

[@markblum5059]

I can't wait for the remake of Ghostbusters 2016: Make The Call. I propose Ghostbusters 2025: Burn The Dumpster. Starring Lena Dunham, Lily Singh, and yes, Leslie Jones again. Box office gold.

[@MistaMagic52]

The thing they don't get is that if they're going to bring back old favorite characters, we want them in new adventures that continue their story, not the same story we've already seen. A reboot will never be as exciting as seeing the original for the first time. Little tweaks aren't enough originality. You're absolutely right about current moviemakers not having that life experience to pull from to tell stories. Same goes for other mediums as well.

[@johnyzero2000]

I'm in Austin, Texas too and the freeze knocked out my electricity for 7 days.

[@Jkvrvids]

It scary how close the AAA game industry and Disney are...

[@rathelmmc3194]

Hollywood is just an industry in decline. Its scrambling to figure out how to keep its market share against other forms of entertainment, and the way to keep market share means they need to make less which they don't want to do. The 80s and 90s were a golden age where the movie stars and studios of the era made more than the previous eras movie stars and studios, but they also made more than the current movie stars and studios.

[@linesided]

You hit the nail on the head hammer blow by hammer blow. The death of the mid-priced movie, the Harvey effect and the absolute loss of writers capable of producing an original screenplay. The irony is that all the IP being flogged to death now all started as original risk IP

[@phildiamond8549]

Here’s an idea - make movies with less money, relying more on talented directors, great screenwriters, aspiring actors.?

[@bartsullivan4866]

That would make sense Phil. They always overspend sometimes popcorn action movies can be really well done like that 65 Million Years coming out soon. But I agree with you smaller budgets and strong character films are far more interesting where you don't need to spend 200 million to make. They need to move away from all the Superhero films IMO.

[@Ilyak1986]

Cyberpunk: Edgerunners was made for $3.4 million. Nearly four hours of content, complete with amazing OST.

[@yusufchoudhury2959]

@@bartsullivan4866 superhero movies can still be good/great if written well and not oversaturating the market. Back in late 90s to the 2010s , most superheroes films were bangers and imo golden era for them. Late 2010s quality visibly dipped, something happened to the creative and woke agenda was on full throttle.

[@taylorcolonna457]

Thank you for this discussion. Seeing young successful men gently, respectfully & firmly refuse to back down to demands that you present as docile, dumb (mute) & deflated makes me incredibly White Pilled. In my opinion & by my personal experience, remakes don't work because the people making the movie only focus on the money. They do not for a moment consider the cultural context of what was happening in the world that spoke to entire young hopeful excited generation of American kids who at rhat rime (80s-1999) were being propagandized to Love America & be proud to live in the "Greatest County in the World" That message was at the heart of every song television show and movie. The people making the remarks do not consider the emotional attachment we formed with the characters. There were multiple sequels because coming off the previous generation who watched soap operas all day & night we didn't care about the story really. We wanted to go on another wild adventure with Riggs & Murtaugh. We loved them like our friends & we missed them. Being in a dark theater with characters larger then life on a huge screen. Everything was new and clean and amazing ( like I understand Dubai to be now) No cell phones so your friends had your undivided attention. I could go on & on & never really convey to you that you can not repackage another generation's cultural experience & sell it to the following generation as a "new idea" I call Generation Appropriation! LOL 🤣 In short a remake to me is the same as a stranger putting on a half-azz mask of rhe love of life the demanding I pretend they are the same thing & should have the exact same feelings. Each generation must find its own voice. That is the other price of progress. ☮️💪😊❤️☯️

[@aclaylambisabirdman6324]

We’ve always done this as human beings. Films have taken the place of stage productions due to technology and practicality, so the idea they wouldn’t keep remaking old stories again and again is so off to me.

[@stephenwood2145]

The drinker is quite right. Love his channel

[@ito2789]

Well said, Drinker.

[@simritnam612]

Because they are sterile ie not creative writers, Like Sauron, twisting existing creatures

[@glassesguy900]

Ghostbusters 2 came out in 1989 the same year Batman came out in the theaters

[@Sebastian-np7uc]

What bothers me the most is shot for shots remakes, like The Lion King for example. WHY would you make a shot for shot remake of one of the most beloved Disney movies of all time? There is nothing creative about that whatsoever. Its always gonna be compared to the original, and most people are gonna prefare to watch the original anyway. Its amazing how much money it made!! 😯🤷‍♂️

[@archersterling6726]

If you make it shot for shot you are lazy, but if you change things you risk the fanbase. It's mostly a lose-lose

[@bartsullivan4866]

I totally agree Sebastian. Why make a successful movie that you can't top, that was made really well to begin with. They should remake shitty films that missed the mark not films that were perfect the 1st time around. Total Recall, Robocop. All the Disney Renascence films of the 90's, Ghostbusters, the list is endless of films that never needed to be redone. Like don't even try to top these films. Now the holy grail of Roadhouse I shutter the most guilty pleasure movie of all time. With each sequel of Indiana Jones, Predator, Terminator Hollywood just dilutes the product and tarnishes the legacy of the original film that was well done. Got to step off my soap box here but it bugs me. Sequels are ok but how many superhero origin stories do we need.

[@yusufchoudhury2959]

@@bartsullivan4866 some superhero origin stories are completely fine and with new heroes are interesting if written well (usually from straight up adapting comics). Even the classic batman, spiderman, superman can be retold because its so iconic. I think the best were sam raimis spiderman, Chris nolans batman/Tim Burton batman 89 and for me personally zack snyders man of Steel (I need to watch the og superman film tho)

[@bartsullivan4866]

@@yusufchoudhury2959 Being a little bit older you can't top the original 1978 Christopher Reeve Superman origin story. If they do anymore Superman or Batman films they need to skip the origin and go right into the story they are trying to tell. But that's just me. The last good origin story I actually liked was Ant Man 1 because it was more comedy and I did enjoy Deadpool but just way beyond burnout on superhero movies at this point. Much more interested in Dune part 2, 65 Million and the Ferrari biopic just more interesting stories. Looking at the slate for this years movies sequels sequels sequels would rather see a new story than old rehashed movies.

[@yusufchoudhury2959]

@@bartsullivan4866 I think what made the 80s to 2010s the golden age of superheroes is because they didn't try deviate too much from the source material and that there just wasn't one fixed formula (like the MCU has now) back in the 2000s era, you had fox x men and fantastic 4, Sony spiderman, universal hulk a marvel studios blade and iron man. All similar story arcs but with distinct themes sprinkled in. I got to admit after 2010s the mcu just stuck to a formula, but it worked for the most part till endgame (imo there was enough variety and themes to still be invested) . Respect your opinion tho and I am excited for dune and John wick myself.

[@msdm83]

I did my undergrad dissertation with a VP of a bit too large multinational. He said that larger companies have difficulty innovating because there is disproportionate award between departments and individuals who have to pass the project. The innovative areas such as marketing and R&D, will get the rewards if successful. But the more operational parts of the business have upside in success and bigger downside for a failure. In the case of the movie business. The creatives would get the reward for something innovative, but the finance or distribution people have lower reward compared, to the risk of being blamed for failure.

[@StudioKaiju]

Another element to this is that with the limiting of studio options, i.e, Disney buying up other studios and so forth, the ones that are still out there have spent billions on new intellectual properties, and so the obvious expectation is that those will receive the first response to move forward with. Disney dropped $4 bills for Star Wars so milking that franchise to death is a high priority. If I wandered into Bob Iger's office and said "I have a tiny little no-budget TV show that I want to turn into a feature film" it wouldn't matter if I had a creative vision or a special hook or anything else. Their resources are being directed to what cost them a massive fortune to acquire.

[@rofyle]

"All Quiet On the Western Front" is a remake of a remake. Some other remakes/reboots that worked: Godzilla It Dune Casino Royale Batman Begins 3:10 to Yuma Dredd Evil Dead Rise of the Planet of the Apes True Grit The Fly The Hills Have Eyes Scarface 12 Monkeys A Fistful of Dollars . . . and the greatest reboot of all time . . . The Lord of the Rings People forget that this was a reboot of a franchise that already had a much earlier animated film. There have been plenty of very good reboots and remakes. And this doesn't even count television series' either, like 21 Jump Street. The problem arises when studios try to radically alter the franchise to satisfy some woke demands.

[@ShaneJoshua1980]

This shows how creatively bankrupt Hollywood is that the need to reboot shit and not take risks.

[@MS-sb9ov]

“Whom the gods would destroy, first make them mad”. There’s clearly an agenda, but the real kicker is where the funding’s coming from for loss-making movies. I’d wager it’s from over the seas and far away.

[@davedogge2280]

They out of ideas and writing talent due to nepotism maybe??

[@ErlingGrey]

No it’s just money. Theres a million original scripts out there. Established IPs make money even if they suck.

[@bartsullivan4866]

You get a few original films a year but so many of the releases were all superhero bullshit sequels this year. Maybe 3 films I actually want to go see a ton of shit not worth your time.

[@yusufchoudhury2959]

​@@bartsullivan4866 I'm a huge superhero fan from the 2000s (which were the golden age of heroes imo) but I also really appreciate high art and more thoughtful stuff (mainly sci-fi and historical fiction) I don't want any genre to disappear. I agree with the oversaturation of superheroes since 2010s but for the most part they were good to great for most ppl. Now it needs a rest and maybe 2-3 movies a year max. Plus more interesting sci fi and historical epics will spice it up

[@bestintheworld4850]

Because imo now we have many mediocre writters, we got guys that “studied” that not because they liked it or were good at it, but because it was “easy” so they could live their stereotypical college lives so we have many mediocre writters now unfortunately.

[@OgamiItto70]

They picked a major where they didn't have to do math.

[@OkTxSheepLady]

Wow Chris great that you got the sound of the ice storm.

[@ronniedahlstrom2914]

Put the sunglasses back on! It's weird seeing you without them. It's like Neo without sunglasses.

[@SumDumGy]

I’d say it doesn’t matter why. When you choose to boycott the company, anything and everything they do becomes irrelevant, and that’s a reward within itself.

[@huylequang2453]

6:01 we are still cleaning the fallen trees from the streets in Austin as of 3/8/23. Good thing he still had power unlike 1/3 of the city

[@patricklemire9278]

Filmmakers and Studios need to break up with streaming. Just say hey we are not going to stream our films any sooner than 9 months. Covid is over, the window is back. If you want to see our film get down to the cinema. If you miss that the physical disc (with included digital download code) will be available in three or four months. The mistake studios made was thinking streaming was the new theatrical instead of what it is, the new cable. Anyone with basic math skills could have figured out that streaming revenue cannot support theatrical budgets. I would market discs as the safe choice. No danger of studios altering the content later, no chance of the original supplier losing the rights and nullifying your “purchase” (which is just a rental, digital sharecropping ).

[@daveSoupy]

because they need to keep the copyright for their characters and the way to do that is to keep using the property. making these is partly something familiar they can reuse but there's also a practical purpose.

[@SpencerLemay]

That is only for specific license agreements made by Marvel before Disney bought them.

[@MicahMicahel]

they are trying to replace and destroy the old cultural products. They are changing the message.

[@bob1986]

That's mostly for stuff like Marvel and trademark Disney characters. Most of Disney's popular films are based on Fairy Tales they cannot copyright. All they can copyright is their specific animated versions of the characters, which they aren't using here anyway.

[@frostfang7670]

the problem is Blu-Rays and 4Ks have gotten lazy where you go hours of content in addition to the movie of how they made stuff and the process of how the film was made. I love going back and watching the stuff involved with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.

[@DanMcNamaraa]

Bodypower Expo 2015 Chris Williamson x Joe Delaney

[@astonmartin8537]

No hardships to overcome or struggles from the past now it’s just I am already great and powerful.

[@nomo3013]

ScarFace and Donnie Darko are great examples of Damon's point.

[@Stone7C1]

eeeeeeh. streaming doesnt enable piracy any more than dvd releases did. i remember, usually a day or two after anything got released on dvd, you could find it on pirates sites. so i doubt there is a high correlation there. what i will say however, is that with the age of streaming services and everyone trying to get a slice of the cake, this in itself has led to a massive increase in piracy. because no one is going to pay for 15 different streaming services to have access to all the content that he wants to see and that has become exclusive to different platforms. it used to be, almost everything was conveniently situated at netflix and you got one subscription and then you could pretty much watch what you wanted. now even netflix increased their prices, and theyre talking about stopping family account sharing and want everyone to pay for his own account even when theyre living under the same roof, and the greed of the providers went even so far that theyre including adds. basically streaming as a service in its entirety has become shit, and its very close to not even be worth paying for even one service anymore. so many people just pirate again like in the pre netflix era, where they dont have to deal with all those inconveniences, like fucking adds on a paid service.

[@Shinraui1243]

I like CD's perspective on Hollywood writers not facing adversity in their lives, though I wonder if its less having no problems whatsoever (as that's an almost unbelievably sheltered life) versus all problems being swept up in the same left-wing theory of oppression. It might help explain why there's less variety in the writing among big budget movies because all the writers are inherently viewing the world as being a same surface-level fight of oppressor/oppressed, even when they may have their own unique experiences that they can't effectively understand or draw on.

[@daishikaze3986]

I agree somewhat, but folks can fake life experience by studying, looking at history, talking to folks who HAVE life experiences and come up with a compelling story to tell. The problem is also that they refuse to do so because they have been taught that all of history is a false narrative designed to hold them back from greatness. So they end up learning nothing about art, art history, world history, etc. because they see no value in it, hence the catchphrase "let the past die", There is no value there to them so it should all be destroyed

[@marcusaurelius5149]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped." ~ George Orwell '1984'

[@albertoj.mollinedo4116]

funny that the best movies, who have become cult classics flopped big time in the theatrical release. only the VCR/DVD sales elevated them to their classic status now. Blade Runner, The Thing, Dark Star, 13th warrior etc.

[@whatsinthebox9732]

Hollywood reboots old movies for two reasons. 1. It avoids risk of new ideas failing. 2. They want to rewrite history by claiming the updated race/gender swapped ideas were always the better choice.

[@Lycurgus1982]

A combination of creative bankruptcy and low risk corporate mentality has, for the most part tanked any breakthroughs in thoughtful artistic expression.

[@octapusxft]

But why are they allowing the undermining of those old movies if the are risk averse?

[@Vera_wondergirl]

Great dialogue oh and the dog is so cuteeeee. I'll take old movies over modern bs any day. Just now planning for my terminanator rewatch and then will dive into classics like Streetcar named desire. Imagine Marlon Brando in modern Hollywood. They would cancel him just for being this masculine attractive and manly

[@WillFredward7167]

The solution to having limited life experiences as a writer… is to read. A lot. If modern Hollywood writers were simply well-read, devouring the works of authors who DID live epic and difficult lives, then they would be able to recognize and draw inspiration from the experiences of others. But instead, they delude themselves into thinking that their own limited experiences are somehow enough to count as universal inspiring stories. Read the good stuff! And learn from it!

[@slchance8839]

this is a great point . Jaws is a modern version of Moby Dick, with Quint as Ahab, a broken man driven crazy by a quest. I would like to add that reading is the best, but second best would be to WATCH and devour other stories, like Quentin Tarantino did while working his early job at a video store. He just saw LOTS and LOTS of movies. It boggles my mind when people dont see a "hidden" remake. People loved Baby Driver.....dude, it was a watered down version of The Transporter. People loved Avatar....it was a cartoonish version of Dances with Wolves. If people watched more, they could see they are being fed regurgitated material.

[@Lord_Vadr]

Well we know (and have for over a decade) Disney has an initiative to remake all their classic animated films in “live action”, so not really needing research on why regarding that particular studio eh?

[@paulpasadena]

The answer to this question is actually simple: There is a built in fanbase for these IP's. Studios know there will be fans of the original who will see it no matter how terrible the trailers are. There are some people who will watch a movie no matter how terrible the movie is. They'll watch it just to say they've seen it.

[@Imperials3nate]

If you ask me I say that fans should be hired to write reboots, since they'll both love the IP for what it is and know how to improve it. If Disney makes a lazy reboot, they do so. If the company fails, it fails.

[@paulschaaf8880]

I don't mind sequels as long as they don't destroy them with identity politics BS. I've gotten to the point where I pretty much automatically ignore anything where they do a race/gender swap on characters in an already established series. It's pretty much guaranteed to be terrible. The entire plot will essentially be men bad, women good.

[@osmanyousif7849]

They truly have lost the meaning of the line: "If it's not broke, DON'T FIX IT." Honestly, Hollywood should start thinking about fixing what is broken first. Did they ever realize how many bad movies they've been collecting the past century? Why did they never think to remake those into better movies?

[@phaeton01]

It’s simpler than you think, it’s just about keeping the rights to the properties

[@josueveguilla9069]

That is an excellent question.

[@thedalewardens9106]

Princess Bride: box office flop. Enter Blockbuster and VHS. Later DVD sales. Everyone discovers one of the greatest movies ever made. And they find a favorite catch phrase

[@scubasteves3214]

Ghostbusters 2 was a masterpiece compared to the 2016 one

[@TheAurgelmir]

I hadn't thought about it, but yeah the death of Home video has done a lot to Hollywood. Not to mention because streaming doesn't really have huge libraries. It's not just DVD sales, but also the death of rental. Growing up I had a massive video store close by, where you could find ANYTHING! I remember pulling all nighers with my friends watching "all" the Godzilla movies etc. Wanted to watch "that movie we watched that one time as a kid?" The kind old ladie at the video store knew exactly which movie you ment! Ask Netflix for Weekend at Bernies and it suggest some random movie to you. I do miss the mid budget movies. Heck I would argue half of the cult classics form the 80s and 90s are from that category of movies. Which got popular because people saw them on TV, or rented it after people said "you should watch this." I do remember that's basically how American Pie became a success. (And if we include TV shows: Fire Fly)

[@chrisgkhawkinsart4974]

Ghostbusters 2 was 1989 Critical and it was good

[@DeadMuzan]

So the characters don’t go to public domain?

[@comment15]

M O N E Y. People keep buying tickets. Why? People seem afraid of change or originality for the most part + Nostalgia.

[@eternalhalloween1]

Well, we all know how many reboots have flopped big-time! But allow me to give the positive some time. "Ghostbusters Afterlife" was great. "Halloween Kills" was great. "Halloween Ends" was good. And "1917" was amazing.