CRITICAL OR ATTACK SPEED: WHICH IS BETTER ON MOSKOV?

CRITICAL OR ATTACK SPEED: WHICH IS BETTER ON MOSKOV?
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[@LC-sn8jd]

The advantage of attack speed build was the early game corosion was enough for him to go 1v1 on other marksman and assassin while the crit build needed 2 items

[@xxx-oe7ib]

attack speed works good in early crit works in late game

[@newbie2240]

tf with these bots on top

[@Adblocklol]

And it's harder to build against speed build over crit

[@Sourav愛]

​@@newbie2240😂

[@Sourav愛]

​@@Goruden_4407Yea Buff Natalia 😢

[@NightmareML]

What makes the trinity build better is the faster cooldown of 1st and 2nd skill which you didn't maximize in this video comparison.

[@Baddas_]

Hmm, hi nightmare!

[@dyrrothgaming6001]

Hmm idol😂

[@theplaymakermlbb1244]

notice the passive counter on the bottom? he is waiting for the last second before dashing to maximize the attack because there is a slight delay when dashing, so he is maximizing the damage output here.

[@super.gum.]

OMG the moskov God has spiken

[@myopiamlbb]

The video just prioritizes activating his 1st.

[@karmathonden5943]

For this sort of experiment, it's better to show an in game example of the advantages and disadvantages of each build. Eg: The attack speed build, you can use a clip of Moskov taking up different positions fast because of the low CD of his skill 1 and 2.

[@be4885]

trinity build is good for high hp heroes much more stable damage than critical hits 1v1 with mm critical build vs critical build mm critical wins because it does more damage but critical build is used to attack heroes fighter, tank with defensive power and More hp is possible as well but requires seahelbalt instead of wind talker and added merafic roer Overall the crit build is better than trinity for moskov in real game

[@shinhikaru]

It really depends on the enemy comp. If they bring lots of Tanky heroes, Trinity + Sea Halberd will be better. If there are many squishy heroes, Crit is the way to go. That's why it's important to adjust during the draft phase and not just stick to 1 build.

[@ashwamedh3603]

You should start dealing drugs

[@myopiamlbb]

Correct.

[@reistillmine]

I can't view one reply

[@reno9571]

Not all 5 of them prefer tanks dude there's a mage, fighter, support with only one tank if enemy prefer balance team it would be stupid of them to chose tank over dmg regardless of hero

[@caoinismyname]

Sure but that's not the point of comparison. What's compared here is merely build. You're adding another variable in your comment, which is not a scientific approach. In this video, they are matched up against each other. It's a good comparison. Although, I think a better comparison would be against different enemies but consistent for both builds. Then, we can get the average time of defeating the enemies per build. We can also get the average damage dealt. Or whatever metrics we want to look at.

[@ohu2014]

You should take into consideration the fact that it takes a lot less items for the attack speed build to shine making it much more suitable for early game.

[@gachacows6432]

It also has Golden staff making it so moskov can spam his second and first

[@joshvercide2463]

More dodges for attack speed build

[@SMARTA69]

But crit build is much cheaper specifically windtalker whilst all items of attack spd build costs 2,000+ gold

[@qwerty0047]

​@@SMARTA69crit build needs atleast 2 items to actually shine meanwhile attack speed just needs corrosion to 1v1 marksmen in early game

[@SMARTA69]

@@qwerty0047 Trinity wins against crit with just 1 item, but after 2 items Crit can already snowball with both high dmg, atk speed and quite a high lifesteal, not to mention completing the Crinity build is a bit faster than Trinity.

[@offline_w3lson231]

Anyone should remember that a basic attack-based marksman hero should increase its scalling in Basic Attack like Crit or Increasing the damage with BOD, MALEFIC ROAR, BLADE OF HEPTASEAS OR HUNTER STRIKE. The Attack Speed items is only reliable when the enemy is tanky, not much marksman equip this but Melissa and Moskov are one of them.

[@Ilovetoticklepeoplestip]

Claude aswell and Karrie and wanwan

[@StardustDragon2500]

It is just 1% dhs nerf and smallest nerf in mlbb history. The 1% :

[@Evanisya]

Instead of windtalker, it is betted to use dhs or green scythe depending in the situation you're on, because skill 1 + inspire enough to generate fast atk speed, so windtalker is not really needed

[@StardustDragon2500]

Being tanky isn't always about Health point, it is about physical/magical defence too.

[@kaito7132]

Critical build is op for enemies without blade armor

[@user-bp2qy9me1t]

​@@kaito7132 you facing epic gm all days?

[@kaito7132]

@@user-bp2qy9me1t Blade armor reduces critical chance. Without blade armor, critical build so strong even against tanky heros.

[@kaito7132]

@@user-bp2qy9me1t also why did you say about be facing epic, gm? Are you stucked at legend or mythic 5 and got frustrated?

[@justanormalperson5909]

@@kaito7132 many dont build it tho cuz it is mostly wasting an important slot for a better item, the physical def can easily be countered w malefic roar as for the dmg reflecting can be countered w life steal and then u need to counter the life steal etc, in short its not gonna do too much imo.The item would be much better againdt trinity cuz its more focused on the atk speed and effects rather than pure dmg(and the dmg is revolving around the dhs passive mostly) so blade armor not having hp would be good against the trinity build.Ofc we'd need actual demonstration to see in what scenario performs better and there r mant factors to take in consideration.

[@E_E69]

The results would've been different if you did this video before the nerf. 1% less on dhs and 10 less phys atk on GS prolly accounted for its loss

[@Boskonovitches]

Tbh ur right

[@SadPeachCat]

And what's the point of that? That's already in the past and is no longer relevant

[@E_E69]

@@SadPeachCat dumbass. Past changes can always be reverted

[@nomad6992]

I'm seeing this as trinity build as a counter for tanky heroes(usually utility jungler/heroes) and crit build for squishy enemy line up

[@johnkyletugadiesguerra]

The Trinity Build is suited for going against tanky enemies especially with, not only the HP-based damage, but also the mobility it gives for Moskov. This gives him some leeway to kite tanky heroes, because most of the time, those guys are lacking in mobility. And yea, Crit.'s burst potential is amazing still. Hasn't changed at all in its effectiveness to settle scores against squishy enemies.

[@Great-Dao-of-Elegance]

Nah, he already showed the example with Atlas. Crit is literally still better.

[@lightkira8818]

Attack Speed all the way for me, I dont care who burst faster. Trinity Build makes your skill 1 cd fast(because of GS also) and that's how you do your micros to moscov. Mobility makes moscov hard to kill.

[@rakerzako]

Attack speed is more equipped for enemy tanky hero compared to crit build

[@abhrajitpaul2744]

Blinking won’t matter if u killed the main threat’s of Moskov(MM/Assassin) even before they can lock you in So Crit build >>>ASPD build

[@lightkira8818]

@@abhrajitpaul2744 It's not a 1v1 game. Mobility is more useful when in teamfights especially assassin is aiming at you or any enemy tank/support. Have you seen nowadays current meta especially in Pro matches moscov built a Crit items? Also DHS has a lifesteal so you can sustain yourself a bit, you dont build first a hassclaw or any lifesteal before you build a crit item, about the video, its just like 0.5 faster killing the enemy? Like duhhh.... And crit items has a direct counter, blade armor and a slow of dominance ice.

[@commandernikke]

@@abhrajitpaul2744 Lmao, Epic talk right there. How bad are your opponents when you can pick off their main dmg dealers that easily.

[@dr0wn8888]

Agree it make cd faster I'm a moskov user too

[@kennethultimate02]

I used hybrid build. The demon hunter sword and Corrosion sythe combined with Berserker's fury. The first two reduces cool down while the Berserker's fury increases the burst effect. I use 'fatal' as one of the talents

[@hoanganhnguyen8797]

Your videos are very good, it has a lot of detailed information

[@Navi313]

The comparison is good but I think it's not fair for the aspd build because it's advantage lies on the early game while in the crit build you need to complete your build first to get the best effect

[@adelgarr5117]

All we need to remember is that they are tools of the trade always in our belt, and we can choose to make use of both of them as necessary.

[@sezanmahmudshuvo2546]

it's not about which build is better overall, critical build needs 2 item to move forward while with just corrosion scythe moskov is good to go. I always prefer crit but change if they have dmg reduction heroes. Not tanky ones but dmg reduction ones

[@earlgado4609]

You can also change windtalker with either dhs, sea halberd or corrosion scythe.

[@Shutyooasss]

True

[@georgeanthony9961]

the only reason why people prefer the attack speed build is that, with just 1-2 items, they would be able to dish out a lot of damage already, rather than critical builds where they would need 3 to 4 items in order to deal damage

[@rakerzako]

​@Zaphkiel dogshit content

[@rumgo]

Both are good in their own ways depends on the situation

[@_-huh8153]

I Agree

[@Baguette_French]

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[@Food_Guru92]

A common reason 😊

[@aloevi4850]

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[@Baguette_French]

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[@erickenriquez420]

I think both builds will work depending on the enemy hero line up and their itemization, but either aspd or crit is your preference...it ain't matter especially in late game.😊

[@Xierdia_15]

Atk speed is usually for people who likes to have more sustain. Crit is for those who want to burst. They are both great. Just boils down to preference Atk spd: Corrosion, Golden Staff, DHS, Haas, Atk Speed or Def boots, Flex (Immortality or Wind of Nature). Boots are usually replaced with windtalker to still have a bit of movement speed and atk spd Crit: Windtalker, Scarlet, Berserkers, Haas, Atk Speed or Det boots, Flex. Boots is usually replaced with Malefic

[@kakyoinjco8926]

atk speed used against enemies who have a lot of HP while critical is the opposite and i think critical more sustain than atk speed, of course if u buy has claw

[@thehunteroy5410]

Nice job elgin. Cant wait for more streams tho

[@jhoshie5440]

I use Sea Halberd on him because of the 8% damage increase.

[@slimslimee4411]

FINALLY, someone who actually utilizes this underrated item

[@mrifki1358]

heck me too, i used to combine crit build plus sea halberd.. it gives you high attack and attack speed

[@DeadBattleBrother15]

Only if your enemy have higher HP than you

[@TheNaz_O5-15]

So many marksman could use that extra damage And yet they always don't

[@hskdjh421]

​@@DeadBattleBrother15which is the case most of the time. Even mages can have higher HP than Moskov if they build items like CoD, NoD, Glowing Wand etc. Assassins usually build Endless Battle or Heptaseas, and both have HP stats.

[@killoz5445]

Honestly, Trinity/ASP build is automatically always better simply because of shorter 1st skill cooldown, that's useful for mobility.

[@powergranger6474]

I suggested Bane using physical or magic build next. I already tried the mage build and the dmg is op.

[@myopiamlbb]

I can mix and match items for Bane but between the two builds, magic build is more on sustainability while physical is more on mobility.

[@Akari_Des]

fun fact: someone in my reply corrected this claim so i have deleted it

[@mayday4662]

Same like leomord...but lesley passive effected by golden staff

[@leonmystique9372]

I think they're saying that Moskov's damage at the back isn't Crit Damage, but rather just enhanced damage.

[@spareless3694]

fake news. It's just "looks" like it's critting but it's just an a visual aid that your attack is enhance. It doesn't necessarily mean it crits.

[@ralfian0234]

Golden Staff doesn't prevent crits, it just sets crit chance to 0.

[@SUIREIx]

​@@leonmystique9372 no

[@iregretlife]

Both are still situational Critical is definitely good for squishy enemies While atk speed is good for tanky because you can delete their health fast,unless they equipped blade armor

[@rasikhoun]

Critical is better for 1v1 while the attack speed build is generated for full team attack wherethe passive can work better

[@StardustDragon2500]

*Tank user are getting killed by magic and true damage Also tank : Trinity build sucks.

[@Fighters501]

if some one build merge of crit and attack speed build your moskov will go in sane

[@theclassicman5595]

@Elgin can you review the bug on Gatotkaca's enhanced basic attack? His dmg gets triggered but his dash attack animation does not activate

[@Littlebodybighhearrt]

Omg it though im the only one who experience that

[@user-iu3kz4hc5s]

Yeah there's no animation

[@slimslimee4411]

​@@Littlebodybighhearrt Actually I just realized that I have also noticed that bug

[@josephjrca]

Thanks Elgin! I love the ulti in the Last part😂

[@Mundoman3000]

Attack speed moskov is much like badang, being able to stun many times without giving the opponent a chance. Higher attack speed gives moskov more cooldown to both his skill 1 and 2 than the critical one, and It can be an infinite stun unless moskov's mana runs out.

[@StressHaze]

Moskov's passive in MLBB gives a 20% bonus damage to enemies behind his actual target , which is visually displayed as a crit, but it actually does only 0.2x extra damage compared to a regular crit which does 2× damage . Examples : Hilda's ult crit , hariths 1st skill, fredrins ult , auroras combo etc

[@alyasVictorio]

So what about Yi Sun-Shin's passive damage? Critical or enhanced? Because I test him using Berserker's Fury to increase its damage scaling but looks like still remains the same as he don't had it, so I'm curious about it tho-

[@StressHaze]

@@alyasVictorio mlbb has just been lazy af when it comes to fixing these Minor inconsistencies. Even if it does 200% damage it has to be basic attacks and anything less can still be crit ( Lesley and ling do 40% less crit but it still is crit ) and this in comparison to yi sun is quite similar but not really. I think doing anything less then 200% if not specified on a hero is not crit but enhanced damage .

[@user-ch4dy4lf6c]

It really just depends on the enemy line up, for me is to use attack speed build if the enemy heroes can use defence item since critical build is easy to counter, blade armor and vengeance will do the trick, so its better to adjust on your items base from the enemy, its really just a mistae to use critical build while there's a belerick on the enemy side. The advantage with the attack speed is, its better for early game because of the corrosion scythe and its slow effect will also help, demon hunter is also an advantage for early, since the unique passive devours enemy heroes hp base from there hp

[@user-ch4dy4lf6c]

But I will most likely use attack speed build, because sometimes we can't reach late game

[@kyletravisd.libores1179]

i reccomend doing a hybrid build so u can find what u prefer just dont use golden staff with crit items the extra attack speed is not worth it

[@user-pf6xv9hd6z]

Do a comparision between these two Selena builds: Build 1: Demon Shoes, Clock Of Destiny, Lightning Truncheon, Holy Crystal, Divine Glaive, Winter Truncheon Build 2: Demon Shoes, Calamity Reaper, Genius Wand, Holy Crystal, Divine Glaive, Berserker Fury Do a comparision between the early and late game damage, using 1-2 items in early and full build in late, since Selena is an early game snowball kind of hero

[@Jason-oz5pz]

His videos are the shortest and clearest.

[@Chadmi333]

Her* Elgin is a transgender

[@Jason-oz5pz]

@@Chadmi333 the hell?

[@MarvinR2]

I was actually surprised on the result vs Tanky Hero. With the same last 2 items in the Video, I guess the Trinity build has better sustain in a team fight due to having 2 Lifesteal Items. But the ATK SPD build would win in pushing due to Windtalker.

[@kalleousvoncheez]

Crit Moskov dealing over 2k phys dmg with each basic atk means ur in danger, trinity Moskov means u & ur tank r in danger

[@gedionviajedor6714]

Attack speed build has a counter to it. Example for it is tank with blade armor and vengence spell.

[@yojinha]

Nice Bro. Do more item mechanic videos like this one

[@Isimpfornoya]

Me: proceeds to build attack speed items Blade Armor: I’m about to end this man’s whole career

[@Aokijie]

The problem with the critical build is when a tanky heroes have Blade armor and vegeance spell it can kill moskov first. But it depends on the enemies hero lineups.

[@wizedd7522]

Super informative. Can you also compare other mms? Hanabi, Melissa etc.?

[@Muslim_MD]

-Trinity is better for early game dmg and lane sustaining due to lifesteal -Trinity build have no problem in dealing with blade armor -Trinity build have less skills CD and slow effect -you don't have to equip additional lifesteal on Trinity if you don't Wind of Nature -you can start destroying tanks before getting malefic roar -with Trinity, you can still deal massive dmg with just 3 items, thus you have additional flexibility that you can build more def items So even if critical at late game deal higher dmg, there are still many advantages with Trinity

[@alyasVictorio]

Trinity build Moskov: Kills tanks and/or tanky fighters; and Golden Staff helps reduce his skills' CD faster in every basic ATK Critical build Moskov: Kills squishy heroes faster

[@sezanmahmudshuvo2546]

what did you see in the video? Are your that dumb? Crit build kills all the heroes faster better than atk speed. Atk speed has dash advantage only

[@StardustDragon2500]

See the video, critical did better on tank than trinity.

[@alyasVictorio]

​​@@StardustDragon2500 Just depend on the way enemy tank builds so yeah

[@fahmikamil1704]

Thanks Elgin, I really missed the point that attack speed will give moskov more dash, from now on i'll stick with attack speed build

[@DestaLosta]

Can you make this content with Alpha? Is he still good with his usual build, or go to aspd build?

[@lengochung7430]

Me who use both dhs and crit items at the same time:🚬🗿

[@RainyYa]

Why peoples prefer ASPD is his first and second skills CD almost 3 second earlier than Critical build. In game specially in tricky situation you cannot be caught by enemies if it's not chain stun or something.

[@OfficiallIcy]

For my crit build moscov i dont buy boots since i mostly rely on traveling faster with his S1. I dont use malefic roar. Instead i use Sea halerburg, and the highest damage item. Sometimes ill switch that item with haas claws, or wind item. But with that ive been dominating legend with crit moscov this season.

[@SMARTA69]

Somehow moontoon was able to make Spd trinity and Critrinity equal after the recent changes made, + new situational crit item for heroes who initiate with their ults, GDS 2.0 Great Dragon Spear

[@jimtamim1708]

Early game dmg?

[@XWRL6]

I think it's pretty obvious that the crit build would win in most 1v1 situations. Which is good, because why use it otherwise, right? But this test doesn't account for team fights. Moskov can often hit at least two heroes at a time with proper positioning. That would trigger golden staff and his passive a lot more.

[@XWRL6]

Not early game though. Early game, attack speed build is a lot stronger.

[@tutortle1820]

A lot of Moskov main don't build boots on him. They go straight corrosion since they can reposition themselves faster

[@user-bp2qy9me1t]

personally prefer Trinity build as critical build is mush slower to make moskov threatening and less flexible if moskov needs a defense item and of course Trinity build synergy is excellent with his 1st & 2nd skill and you easily can ditch boots in late game bcz of super fast attack speed & 1st skill cd

[@N.O.Official]

2:43 Contradicting what you just said🤣🤣

[@Bluepanda555]

No it didn't...

[@mafimok]

The TANKY enemies dont have HP items like Guardian Helmet, I bet ASPD build would be faster vs that.

[@strauverrienombrado5841]

Elgin became a jaiden animation character

[@onion69420]

Remember Crit isn't 100 percent reliable while the dhs will always have a flat damage output but definitely lower lifesteal as well

[@haluyolo7568]

Test next on Argus please, I use both but tbh I don't find significant differences because both melted tank heroes late game, and almost instantly delete squishies, but idk which actually bit better XD

[@lordrobertoguirand7789]

Can you do the same comparison with others mm like clint, or layla, or Nathan. Compare which builds is better

[@neiljosephconsolacion2190]

I rather go full mix (ATK SPD and Crit) because when you combine them together, it's game over.

[@Inazuumaa]

Kindly make a video of Claude between crit and attack speed.❤

[@ytste_ve]

Your accent and videos are so good

[@Ratekunz]

Great video👍🏻

[@stevenkoo2294]

I saw enough speed build Moskov sweeping creeps, tower, lane and jungle. Not in team fight often but it works.

[@quiel4763]

Probably skill issue but as an aggressive type of Marksman player, i enjoy crit even though aspd sets are most recommended, i just found that aspd is better for longer fights and/or tankier enemies, but in a game where im only in mhonor and onwards, i dont play too much to know how these tank junglers came to be but i make do being the makeshift assassin, been that way even before inspire got a buff and made him famous.

[@ashborn46]

Next plz do karina tank vs damage im really confused about it i did some research but never found a proper answer

[@StressHaze]

"Moskov can crit even with golden staff" No cant , in mlbb any addition bonus damage is marked as crit like hildas ult , fredrins ult , auroras passive etc. Moskovs passive grants 20℅ bonus damage to enemies behind which shows up as crit but its only cosmetic as crit does 2× more damage but moskovs passive crit icon only does 0.2× extra !

[@neo1071129]

Maybe try to compare a combination build, DHS, CorSythe, Berserkers, Scarlet, Malefic... I notice that no one talks about this..

[@Charl1e_Sanchez]

Don’t forget moskov basics penetrate and that damage is always critical

[@ChickenOfWar9]

CRIT build argus vs atk speed argus next 👉🏼👈🏼

[@linhtut1414]

Tbh, there's one sneak in the attack speed build, and that's golden staff, sure, it makes you shoot faster but the other attributes it gives are very weak, the physical attack it gives is just too low that it can't make any marksman deal damage, sea halberd is a better pick than it imo, it has life drain, decent stats, and can give you almost as much attack speed as golden stuf and it's passive can deal more damage to enemies with extra hp

[@holyforce7065]

You forgot to use inspire spell, it makes hero's attack speed limitation become... i forgot, you can read the description of inspire spell

[@sweethomealabama4381]

Crit build kills people faster, but ASPD build is way more well rounded, its not really build to kill people quickly, it is originally built to push tower and to make Moskov more agile than usual due to GS double trigger, and ASPD build is stronger early game, so there you have it, ASPD was more chosen for it's overall capabilities being more capable in terms of pushing, objectives and survivability as of why its often chosen since overall capabilities is what matters in high rank, but if you prefer killing enemies in clashes or you can carry yourself in early game, then crit build is your choice

[@axgbb]

Try Melissa next, she used to be built as a crit mm as well but I rarely see that these days

[@nexsusninja9343]

Emblem and synergy also affects the gameplay...mind this, it's very important.

[@YOURBAEQUIN]

That's not even a question, crit is for pros and attack speed for Nups. It's that simple.

[@Sp3nz.]

Crit build is best if enemies have a hero that's bursts you down easily, and if you don't want defence items or the defense items aren't enough, your best hope is to Burst them down with crit build before they burst you

[@kurumi.ae1]

The only problem i found in this Video is that the ‘Atk speed’ build contains stack which gives him more Attack speed

[@kurumi.ae1]

And if you stack it up before the fight i think Attck speed is way better but it still depends on the user

[@Brilliannt]

Hey Elgin! What Happen if you mix both critical and aspd?

[@youneedbrains]

Kids these days doesn't realize that you can combine these builds except buying golden staff, this way you can melt anyone.. no need to debate just don't get fed and you are golden.

[@mr.unknown7145]

Next should be Argus, Im trying to learn how to use Argus but I don't know which is better ASPD or CRIT

[@_mangot_]

Miya would be great for this test since her passive with attack speed is buffed by alot.

[@Gambit_LeBeau]

The fact people still struggle figuring out what's the better build. Moskov benefits both builds, what works even better is hybrid build. Build Scarlett Phantom, Demon Hunter Sword, Berserker Fury, Wind of nature strictly for lifesteal & corrosion scythe. You'll deal crit at 50% & have sustain plus a battle spell from wind of nature.

[@Alex49928]

Only true players moskov play him with crit build 😌

[@rakerzako]

People overestimating AS build since it came out

[@havoc9969]

Martis full tank build VS normal build next.

[@breadcat9928]

You can already predict the outcome

[@hanzohibana]

thanks the video bro.. :)

[@kaito7132]

Gold staff is fast but windtalker and Scarlett phantom is also fast

[@mragent7391]

I think that attack speed build is still better for moskov because he can use his 1st skill and 2nd skill faster because of his passive

[@ninninninja7394]

WOAH I have been using ASPD as jungling now I'm gonna use critic

[@durgeshsss]

Who needs low CD on 1st when there won't be anyone alive to chase me if I use crit

[@shintheweeb8169]

Atlas tanky? Is the most squishy tank in the game

[@beneustache2629]

Hey, you could make a comparaison betweet full attack items and a tanky jungler build on the revamped alpha

[@coolotph2132]

I think you've clicked Moskov's first skill a little late for the attack speed build compared to the critical build and those milisecond difference do matter...

[@satoshie2074]

Well, the trinity build triggers 1st skill faster. I switched to trinity for faster pushing.