Is Minsitthar Worth the Ban?

[@E_E69]

It's not just that his ult doesn't allow dash, it also slows mvmt spd and it's very difficult to get away from especially with his pull amd stun. He counters meta picks like melissa, joy, martis, etc so yes he's worth banning

[@ruper0]

Its pretty small tho and i dont notice the slow effect at all, i think you meant his 2nd skill adds slow effect

[@E_E69]

@@ruper0 with the new corrosion scythe, he slows pretty significantly

[@hihi4948]

@@ruper0 it's doesn't matter since you will pull him back 🤣

[@tanll59]

How to solve the slow? Sprint but the thing i hate is that if the minshi is good he can pull u back again into his ulti that's annoying

[@MrRando930]

He does not counter Martis with his ult

[@laminnabam2752]

*Meet Elgin...* He can one shot a late game marksman and mage. He can tank like a tank. He can go 1V1 against the enemy hyper. He can neutralize dashes and high mobility heroes. He can clear tank's HP in a blink of an eye. His ultimate provides a good battleground for his teammates. He has a passive that can provide *DOUBLE* stuns. He can even hook like Franco but the hooks are way better than Franco's. His 2nd skill provides dmg reduction. But, Elgin says Minsitther should not be banned in rank games. *DON'T BE LIKE ELGIN.* 🙂

[@shironoyami7002]

He's just helping to get mst free from constant bans. MST finally given love but since he's kept being banned no one can even try him.

[@theonewholaughs1100]

Minsi is not really worth the ban tho

[@sithuthethein4066]

@@theonewholaughs1100Can you tell me one reason why?

[@Tony-wn8zw]

@@sithuthethein4066 Because Minsi don't have any epic or legendary skin, so no Minsithar is not worth the ban

[@laminnabam2752]

@@theonewholaughs1100 You are a secret Minsi main and we know it.

[@dale8859]

Minsithar has a unique ulti that makes the opponents unable to dash or escape, and his 2nd skill is like really overpowered

[@individual_zenbo21]

Until you fight against any hero that just shove minsi or just use flameshoot or have a long stun duration

[@individual_zenbo21]

​@raynaldo arlen k.eman The only thing i hate about fighting badang is his 1st skill, he usually survives the interaction (because he would just knock back minsi and minsi's 2nd skill is out of range)

[@sigma2800]

You don't say

[@individual_zenbo21]

@raynaldo arlen k.eman I would usually use my ult, then petrify, then 2nd skill, and use 1st skill if he has a chance of escaping. So similar to a kadita playstyle just like what elgin describes.

[@individual_zenbo21]

@raynaldo arlen k.eman nice tip, might try it out on a match with badang

[@DoNotSin]

We're literally in a meta where tanks and mobility is superior, Minsitthar being a possible tank and hp based dmg and countering high mobility heroes

[@TheRealTemper]

​@@Goruden_4407 she's easily countered by a good saber or other AoE heroes, unless the nata is really good with the timing she's gonna have a sh1t time

[@acehunt0403]

Then why phoveus is not meta?

[@alexquebator7092]

​@@Goruden_4407 Bro stop spamming like a bot. Go ask moonton your issue, they're the one who can make changes.

[@northgamingbuddy2518]

Meanwhile in mpl ph: bennyqt used gold lane minsithar.

[@aprettydumbperson]

​@@acehunt0403 Ever since Phoveus's ult bug where he could ult even when stunned got patched he's been quite lackluster that and he doesn't really pose much of a threat as Minsitthar

[@petercolinumali7497]

his dmg output is not the cause for his frequent bans like your build in this video. it's about his ability to suppress anyone and anything in a teamfight technically his build doesnt really need the DHS, it only causes him to deal more dmg rapidly in his aoe. what he really needed is the scythe as it slows down enemies he hit, add any tanking items and a good grasp of the team fight and your team will have a good chance of winning said teamfight.

[@Difracil]

Yeah those idiots who build him glass cannon and die before he can even ult are the problem. That's why I prefer to ban him than see a glass cannon fighter on my team.

[@Tony-wn8zw]

Minsithar's royal guards also apply the basic attack effects, this includes the 9% of the demon slayer's current life but also the slowdown and the 80 bonus damage of the corrosive scythe. The extra damage of the items is reduced to about 25% of the original damage to balance it out, but if it is in the center it takes the attacks of the 4 guards so it takes the original damage from the item, Minsithar's 2nd skill is also considered a basic attack (and works against towers) so it applies DHS and scythe in a massive way. That's why I think these 2 objects are essential if you want to deal high damage.

[@goldendj9700]

His ult can use item effects… DHS works

[@VincentjoyBerenguel]

Elgins build for.this video is the the reason and the problem why he said minsi does not deserve to be ban. many epical.glory now will.follow 😂 im doomed

[@shinryuzero]

@Elgin the ulti has 2 other effects, one being that it can also activate other item effects if I remember correctly much like his 2nd skill's normal attack. But it also activates his passive which means you will get stunned inside even if Minsi doesn't hit you. Minsi is like a more flexible and group oriented Lapu and can be a pain if partnered with the correct heroes and team mate, and even if not his still a force to be reckoned with if you let him snowball. Hence his banned A LOT.

[@micoandreimanzarate1646]

Yes Elgin, it's just you, it's mostly a nightmare when you face one even if it's not a situational pick, because of the 2nd skill, and you can't really escape when you're in his domain

[@taseenirkanurbar8393]

The healing from its passive is the most annoying. When about to kill him he stuns heals and run away .

[@luigimatthew6614]

His hook is the game changer. It's like Ruby's ultimate but rectangular or Alpha's ultimate but backwards.

[@sweethomealabama4381]

He was an auto ban when using tank is because of this reasons: 1. Extremely hard to deal with - considering of the fact Minsi regenerates with passive, getting crowded won't be too much of a problem, and as a tank, this would be more terrible to deal with 2. Anti dash - Minsitthar counters the dash meta, Arlott and Joy at mythic ranks are the most banned things in high rank but since Minsi counters this, he would be hell of an interruption, especially to the fact most heros are dash dependent, flicker would be completely useless as an escape against Minsi 3. Simply better than most tanks in terms of set - unlike Franco who can only focus in a single enemy at a time after pulling them, Minsitthar can simply do things better, bigger hook, can pull multiple enemies, and he can lock enemies with ulti, Minsitthar is basically Franco on steroids especially to quite fast cooldowns, Franco is already a menace with a good user, let alone Minsitthar who is way easier and better skill effects 4. Multiple roles - he can not just tank, he can also damage, heroes that are capable of doing multiple roles are often the favorite in ban list 5. Early to late game capabilities - he is fully capable of doing destruction to formations and can intimidate really well due to his team fight capabilities, he would be a completely unwanted enemy These are some of the reasons of him getting auto banned

[@GG-zc8um]

its might a small revamp but high cc ability and wide aoe skill make it become a worst enemy for high mobility hero or hero with no skill to blink. also his ultimate will not allow some hero for using ultimate make enemy have low chance to survive team fight. make it worst his 1st skill can catch multiple hero in such distance. hero who type need to get close to team like estes will easily been catch together with his team

[@hixtenzx]

Yea he should be banned

[@andalibswopno9232]

Agreed

[@chadgrimwell8380]

I bet his enemies in the video are regretting not banning Minsi

[@undercover6252]

You can just dodge his hook and cc burst him but i guess its hard for everyone to do

[@hio.hinomaru21]

​@@undercover6252 Okay, then, what's your ideal team? You play solos or squad?

[@geraldleoliou408]

​@@undercover6252 easy for you to say, you'll get a problem when the enemy use Minsithar as a tank

[@crowofjudgement8810]

Funny how he went from one of the most banned heroes to now being almost never banned and if anything his skills are easier to use now since they made it so he can use skills when drawing his spear

[@UnoPlays7993]

As a Minsitthar Main, i can confim that we barely get to use our main

[@alonkob2127]

As another Minsitthar main, I agree. Though I really did like the revamp and I think he's in a pretty healthy spot right now.

[@Name-gg1li]

My bad, just not being able to use ur skills and flicker always throws me off.

[@winter4993]

Unlucky for you I got everytime😅

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

As a new Minsi main, I have yet to experience getting Minsi banned in ranked

[@wisydence641]

As a current mythical glory this season, he's not a threat to me.

[@IsoyaYasuji]

When the meta is FILLED with dash heroes and more usually using flicker to escape or engage. Minsi’s kit is DEVASTATION for them, Phoveus is just a lower tier below minsi, one good ult on the enemy’s core for example melissa or martis jungle, he can really turn the tides. Corrosion Scythe is his ABSOLUTE CORE item.. you’ll be stunned, slowed, and can’t even dash away.. i can tell that the mains of heroes that uses a lot of dashes(like me with ruby) will hate to face him so banning him is the only option other than you or ur ally picking minsi. I mean to be fair, he was forgotten EVER SINCE his release, so this is quite deserving for him xD

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

You know the hero's scary when Isoya the Ruby man is scared of him

[@gibs40]

I think heroes whose mobility rely on speeding up (Like Esmeralda) have little to no problem in dealing with him. It's only the heavy cc that's annoying if u using these heroes

[@inkwillsarcade9872]

Elgin forgot to mention that his skill 2 and ultimate damage now includes attack effects.

[@junpei4401]

I remember when they haven't revamped minsi. He's my go-to roam and I always wondered why nobody plays him. His hook is easier to maneuver than Franco's and his 2nd helps me survive. But then again, I'm not mythic or whatever. 😆

[@josefavirtudes2723]

same

[@vaynelevant]

i used to play minsi too but not anymore because the ult duration was shortened a lot. i like the hook and passive changes but the 2nd skill not so much. i prefer the old shield bash over the spartan shield and stab.

[@rexroiyal]

minsi doesnt just counter the meta but is also pretty strong even without countering meta. Bennyqt already showcased Minsi in high level competition.

[@calculus17]

Elgin, your build. You should get atleast demon hunter and corrosion scythe. It drastically change his damage and attack speed, plus slow.

[@EdmundSetsu]

just bcs he cant dish out high dmg doesnt mean he is not ban worthy...

[@KokoJeuru]

13:17 , Chang'e marksman build, hahaha!😂🤣😆✌️👍

[@YouRock2023]

Not Banning Minsithar is a big mistake.. Don't let me use a Minsithar in a rank game or your Defeat will be inevitable

[@11ict1theodoree.mariano4]

I am a tigreal main. And Minsithar is a menace in the battlefield. I couldn't make great sets whenever Minsithar is around. I couldn't get away.

[@firstername]

this is actually all just an elaborate plan so elgin can freely pick minsitthar in ranked

[@url7167]

He's often banned because an overwhelming amount of meta heroes have mobility

[@tanll59]

His ult is a Middle finger to most mm whiche have dash

[@geraldleoliou408]

​​@@tanll59 Hell dude, the moment you want to get out from his ult, he can pull you back in.

[@sithuthethein4066]

@@bgin5338Or just ban him.

[@rintarookabe5709]

Totally agreed 👍 Even have CC immunity or remove CC skill also can't dash in his ultimate (except Kagura,Kagura can use her remove CC dash skill in his ultimate,quite surprised when I can use her second skill)

[@AppleMini570]

@@rintarookabe5709 kagura can’t dash out from his ultimate before Misitha revamped, but after revamped Kagura can dash out from his ultimate . I don’t know if it a bug or they want it that way . I can confirm since I’m Kagura Main with 1189 matches .

[@QDark16]

as wanwan mains, he is such an avengers level threat

[@MegumiEsmere3697]

so true

[@YukanV]

Phoveus too

[@kolack100]

@@Goruden_4407 Good. Dumb brain dead hero anyways

[@MegumiEsmere3697]

@@YukanV you can easily counter phoveus with the attack speed build (demon hunter sword, corrosion scyte,golden staff,sea halberd, windchant/windtalker (optional depends on the enemy) and athena/radiant armor (also depends with the enemy)

[@zen8400]

wait no no u are wrong...wanwan is the ideal mm for him. Its got so many perks. 1. As long as u can weave around his aim and immune cc at perfect moment he cant bring u into his ult. 2. He gets confident nd comes close to catch u giving easy ult 3. He knows he is ur counter so he will focus u and ur teammates will have a much easier time. When u know how to use minshitar and wanwan its so fun jst making a fool out of him. Ofc if he like frnco jst flickers into ur range nd ults u are fked but that can happen to any mm and most minshi use petrify or vengeance.

[@potatoes402]

Proceeds to dominate and stun lock enemies with full screen ult cc while bursting down squishy heroes Elgin: _"I don't think he's ban worthy"_

[@wildcarx]

What makes him a high ban hero is his teamfight potential,he can turn the tide of a teamfight if you know how use him. Besides that ,you frogot one more thing about the buff in minsi ult ,his ult can also trigger atk spd effects so dhs , corrosion sythe can use their passive to do so

[@justaguy5496]

Wait, i don't remember his ulti attack speed inherit attack speed effect.

[@wildcarx]

@@justaguy5496 yeah ,it does just check the buff from his ult

[@ronianph]

Why minsit is most ban 1. His passive which stun 2.His hook where it can hook multiple enemies at a time 3.His second skill where you can spam his passive 4.His ultimate where you are restricted using a dash or movement type skill basically your Ultimate skill.

[@ilupillu4915]

Why sprint works in his ulti its also move ment skill right

[@youneedbrains]

When you are trying to prove if he needs to be banned at least use the right spell and build thanks Also if you are using minsi you can counter yin just by using your 2nd skill on the domain facing his way, no need to buy dreadnaught armor (You can do this when you buy tough boots which is also a great counter to martis and grock's cc skills) And also because minsi is a frontline fighter I recommend to buy rose gold meteor that should minimize your chances to die on a clash

[@krystal69420]

His first skill can hook multiple heroes and can now goes with flip. His second skill can block physical and magical (i think) dmg up to 50% from the front. His ult loses its bonus defense, lasts shorter and has way longer cd. I kinda like the old one for its 2nd skill quick stun more than the current one.

[@Rythruins]

Atleast for me, yes my main heroes revolves around dashing heroes, I can play all role but man having no dash is a massive change in my gameplay and hero pools. Ofcourse there are heroes who doesn't need dash with high mobility but man it's annoying that he also stuns, slows you down and pull you back basically locking you down unless you have sprint

[@jayneldalecano423]

Minsi user here . I always won the MCL as champion and mvp

[@basky7246]

As a Minsithar main, Its better to ban him than regret later.

[@zenuss.]

Alternative Title: guys pls stop banning minsitthar i never get to use him

[@zenuss.]

this is a joke comment btw

[@divyangverma9880]

tanks I found helpful against minsitar during heat of team fight. akai - with sprint he can ruin minsitar and his team's possible ambush and gank baxia- with vengeance he will receive 1 dmg from minsitar and non burst type enemies and minsitar stays in his ult baxia's own ult with s2 can kill him. remember baxia also do hp dmg which has only 0.6 sec cd in late game whoever hug him is fkedup terizala - if u ult in his ult u both gotta backoff coz both team will have some loss (Romer) if xp he useless against u lapu - if played right minsi cant do anything to him (romer xp both) alice- since my team never let me mage I found her hybrid build effective against martis minsitar both (xp,roam both work) franco - hook is solution to all problems jawhead - you gotta use sprint your ult is locked yu zong - romer yeah work fine just hug him and dodge enemy mage I not mentioning pure xp laners and other roles coz as a solo player I always have to pick tank, coz a noob mage and mm can give you win if you know how to control ganks with your cc A noob tank just ruin your hero no matter if u are god of mm or hyper noob tank never check bush never giving vision always run first and wait and see if you as hyper atking then only he comes back to fight or taking 5 man ult in other side of map like he see in YT and blaming others or always walking with u like computer and result in u feed and lose.

[@adenela209]

You forgot that his ult clone can trigger basic attack effects

[@Yutaaa-tv3mk]

I respectfully disagree with Minisi not being ban worthy - Minis was literally the difference maker this whole entire game. The perfect moment that capitalizes this is - “Our team is ahead by 7 kills” Elgin: 7 - 0 - 10 Minis is strong AF

[@pranjalsiwakoti714]

he i up with 11 1 12 manages to get double kill while lord in base defend it and carry almost all game with diffrent build and says he is not hard to deal like ok 💀

[@marcusroc]

If you use skill 2 you can attack towers way faster and its superb for pushing

[@DevinSant]

A good pick against Minsitthar is Esmeralda, but you'll have to build some damage on her or going for tank build adapted to work against demon hunter sword and with ice queen wand or thunder belt with purify. Actually, most heroes can work well against him if they don't have blink skills and their core items aren't tanky ones, because purify can do the rest; unfortunately, it became a forgotten spell since sprint's buff.

[@peterparkerakaspider]

What? I saw 2 in enemy side take purify when they saw saber in my team. Can't say it's a forgotten spell.

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

You can use Minsi’s second skill for turret/main tower as well I think it deals a lot more damage than his basic attacks

[@thewyldecarde3821]

Came here to see if anyone mentioned this. He can smash turrents and base with that skill. My bro runs him all the time and he can push so good.

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

@@thewyldecarde3821 i mainly use ats build cuz it’s what I’m used to Imma use different builds next time Oh, and I tried using him as jungler, result is pretty standard(still need to run more tests on this build)

[@marvindg4295]

Me as a ARLOTT main 🗿 having seen a minsittar banned when I'm arlott I'm like don't worry I'll sweep him out of his ult THAT'S A LIE AS #36 PANGASINAN ITS HARDER THAN YOU THINK ONCE YOU TRY TO COMBO A MINSITTAR HE CAN USE HIS ULT YOU HAVE NO ESCAPE

[@dtly50]

6:10 Actually there are 3 viable playstyles for him. Burst to take out enemy squishies. (BOD, Heptaseas, endless battle, more dmg or def based on enemy team, best for exp) Juggernaut to act as a hard to kill front line that can kill tanks/most fighters and slow enemies(DHS, corrosion scythe, thunder belt, remaining tank items based on enemy team) And critical basic attack damage (scythe, berserker fury, scarlet phantom, 2 defense items to be hard to kill) for fast clear of jungle. Alot of builds kinda work and he can go many different lanes. Even gold lane funny enough. Did get mvp in low mythic in a 2 v 1 gold lane though I don't recomended.

[@Alias1114]

When I see him get used and I play gloo, I have a big smile on my face as I know he's an easy feast. I personally don't think he deserves to be banned so often

[@NalzLavishAccessories]

he should not be banned alot he strong and sometimes unpridictable

[@Explosion-]

The ult and passive with skill 2 combo makes his enemy team panic all trying to evade the stun

[@riko.6980]

You can use minsi's 2nd skill to push turrets faster Or i feel its fast

[@mafimok]

What Elgin failed to mention that would explain how Minsi went from LEAST PICKED to BANNED is how bad the previous version was. Here's the comparison. ~Passive: Get bonus gold from ally kills >>>> stun enemies by using skills or attacks, deal extra damage and heal HP. ~1st skill: Pull 1 enemy >>>> Pull everyone ~2nd skill: Short ranged weak stun >>>> buff that allows you to deal lots of damage while taking less damage from his front. ~3rd skill is nerfed to somewhat keep him balanced. Minsi is being picked even in professional league like MPL as he makes the game hard for a huge pool of heroes. Heroes that are usually prioritized because of mobility like Lance, Fanny, Ling. And on item building, corrosion scythe keeps the enemies inside his ult longer.

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Reason he is banned now basically: They gave him better overall kits then just being the hero known for stopping dashes. Now he is known as the hero who can Mass CC everyone and Mass Poke everyone... and stop dashes.

[@spheroboom7299]

its cause he outright prevents some skill from being used his ult completely silences atlas ult making him a hard counter to him even better than diggy since a good atlas can switch to pickoff when there is a diggy its the same situation as wanwan in the pro scene making it hard to draft when 1 slot shuts down multiple heroes hes also one of the few fighters that can use the demon trinity which is a nightmare for tanks and front line since it cuts through HP like no tomorrow you dont even need to use the demon trinity you can use only the golden staff and demon hunter sword and load him up with tank items and it would burn through frontliners like nothing

[@fireemblem5340]

He is overrated because people don't know how to move sideways so they always die in his ult, nothing new, I'd rather just avoid having Valentina or if possible, Wan over Minsitthar who at best, would be like, the 15th hero to prioritize on banning and i'm being generous

[@ians.5026]

The only way you can counter meta/overpowered heroes such as (estes, faramis, ministhar, atlas or etc)... you can used "valentina"... Thats the only hero that can counter them in my opinion... *Also dont forget that this hereos can counter them as well : -diggie(counter atlas or cc heroes) -valir(counter martis, hilda, masha) -valentina(counter faramis, estes, and etc)... Theres more but i think its enough to you guys think about "meta" or "overpowered" heroes....

[@jenjenhocho3188]

Minsi has mass hook, is capable of mass stun and his area control is quite potent. But hes not OP but rather a nuisance in team fights forcing you to either target him or the enemy damagers like MMs and mages.

[@candysofia5769]

Its just annoying to deal with just like how nana use to be and still be u can counter them but they are still annoying

[@Whatsinit4me]

I have quitted ML October of last year, but this revamped made me go back as he one of my heroes that I became versed with out of initially trolling as. lol. Glad to see the r evamp, he can basically own anyway in the Exp lane except for Arlott and Martis. The rest, even Freya, Dyrot, and Xborg are Indian food. lol

[@thefearlessone2649]

People are scared of being skewered when all you gotta do is not walk in straight line.

[@KRyouta071]

In my POV, he's like a 90% of chances of winning teamfights. But in terms of solo, there are heroes that can counter him like X-borg

[@spreeky9790]

I played Xborg several times to counter minsi, and I choose Sprint for him over flicker.

[@abc-mt8us]

Elgin: so, what you can say bout mind'shit'tar? Me: well, I guess he's not a shit anymore. Lol.

[@linnkhantnyinyifcps7860]

Elgin : He is top three most banned for MG and above Also Elgin: I am ranking with him

[@NAi2004]

Well minsi is not op and its not because he is op that i get ban rather he is ban because of how effective he is in disrupting the enemies line up and positioning especially in team fight. Given how many mm have somekind of blink or even does that needs flicker to blink for escaping team fight and sets. Minsi prevent anyone to do so (unless they have cc immu blink skill) which makes it him annoying to deal with. Sure he is not too strong in 1v1 and alone but his too much of a pain in teamfight

[@fannyskylark5401]

Because he is good in teamfight initiation or assassin since it's almost impossible to escape once he ults, plus better passive

[@radzytaufek604]

i started playing minsi in rank this season and i gotta say hes so good that my winrate are like 75% using him. i usually play him as a roamer

[@mlbbmadara]

I main him even before he's revamp ,he is the universal flex hero, he can do all roles and gonall lanes, btw it breaks my heart watching how you use minsi haha

[@justsomeguyonyoutube3258]

Yes,he is. He is very effective in teamfights and his stun is sometimes annoying if youre fighting him. He is also a nightmare for Dash heroes.

[@Jays_MotionLess]

I usually use his 1st skill when the enemy is at the farthest range of his hook Its much easier since it stuns the enemy when it hits, guaranteeing the pull Tho, you can still use it in mid range if the enemy is slowed enough to escape before he pulls the spear Edit: Fun fact: Kagura can still use her 2nd skill inside Minsi's ult

[@YFDXD]

I think because her 2nd skill purifies

[@Jays_MotionLess]

@@YFDXD That is correct

[@aljongreat1900]

I build minsi now with trinity build plus 2 defensive items. Can melt tanks in clash

[@YourNecro936]

My squad have ADC carry and we specialise in 5v5 team fight... No matter how game goes in term of gold, when 5v5 happens we always win... But with minsi in opponent it's 4v5 if someone from us got kidnap... Also he's a kind of hero you need to run away from when ulted, which is not good for our team composition... We play badang, khufra, pharsa, Natan, Lance(tank build)... If enemy atlas then we take Valentina... So our game revolves around tank setter(either khufra setup or Valentina with atlas ult) rarely badang flicker combo... Minsi is just annoying so we ban him to maintain our winstreak 😬👀

[@wu1908]

All bans are situational? even outright OP heroes have effective counters. Although I'm interested to know whats the difference between regular attack speed build vs elgin build.I mean whats the pros and cons of each one of them. That's one thing that I'll really like analysed. PS: curious. what's ur game setting? high or ultra? does ur device heat up and what kind of device you use? Thank you very much and love your vids!

[@josef-1209]

He's dangerous even for heroes without dashes 💀 Not only is his grounded effect deadly, his slow + stun is as well!!! 😒 Edit: 5:58 _kinda weird comparison but okay then_

[@sanemi-reelseiden]

Minsithar counter Bennyqt’s heroes? 🤔

[@nomore714]

The chance for a 5 man hook is low, but no 0

[@andreimaquiniana4144]

Well Minsitthar is so strong now since his Hook is so good now he can hook almost all enemies plus the passive that stun and heal you. Great Sustainability plus Good CC now.

[@imgood3374]

I think the only reason he is ban is because of his passive stun it's so long maybe if they nerf it he will not be banned much often

[@seasonsgaia2487]

U call him stronger think again in one v 1 scenario.I would say he is op when team comes to destroy enemies when u ultimate so enemy can't use escape or damge skill based on dash.I will still say minsithar is no op

[@dk13_yt]

For me, he's best position is as a roamer. Semi-tank build, so you can still add any type of shoes if you feel he's still slow at any capacity.. 2 attack item, 3 defense item. Very suitable as an initiator to open a war. But you need to use him technically. If you good at sneaky attack, better use him to lock marksman/mage

[@Telios__]

i totally agree especially with flicker in a match i ended up with 5/5/29 i got the or something and there was a match where every time fight we were in we won mostly because i pull there mm and mage and the icing on the cake when you pull 3 people at the same time it sounds Glorious

[@shinhikaru]

What made him ban worthy is his ability to shut down any high mobility heroes, especially with the current meta is about everything mobile. Even though his ult range is small, the ult can slow you down, especially if Minsi is using Corrosion + Thunderbelt, and if they somehow managed to escape he can pull them back with his 1st skill. With his new passive, he can fight non mobile heroes as well, as his 1st and 2nd skill combo is enough to actually kill a dashless hero even with hybrid build.

[@eileen4695]

Minsi roam for me, he can do anything pretty much. Kadita is more like backline assassin but minsi is so flexible.

[@VoS_IReapz]

Quite simply yes. The versatility is enough to ban him.

[@tadeuszrutze5941]

elgin forgot about one thing. grock near tower or wall cant be under cc so its mean minsittar cant hook him. attack speed misittar is crazy melting enemy like butter

[@JorgeGomez-ov9en]

Elgin you should make a ban review playing a rank AGAINST Minsithar and then maybe you will find out why is insta banned.

[@CrazyMatteBlack]

Bruh, with YOUR build he doesn't deserve to be banned but with a highbrid attack speed and tank build he's really WORTH banning. There's a reason why the recommended and popular builds are like that.

[@AdamWalrus]

you dominated in the whole game easily (not solely because your good at the game but the advantages of the hero skill set) by countering heroes that are dependent to their mobility when escaping or attacking and eventually kill them and then say he doesn't deserve to be banned? the hell?

[@RainOrihime]

*Proceeds to not use the meta build* "I don't think he deserves to be banned as much." 😂😂😂😂

[@eileen4695]

Yea he needs some speed to stun quickly!!

[@RainOrihime]

@@eileen4695 he has to understand that his comment about high mobility heroes dont count when it comes to his ult. This is an off-characteristic post by Elgin, maybe he wants the clout on purpose?

[@eileen4695]

@@RainOrihime I missed the part he talked about high mobility heros, what did he say? Maybe he doesn’t find him OP in a carry sense lol though I still think it’s possible maybe with attack speed build. I think his cc is top tier tho AND he can still damage a lot with one or two damage items before a teammate finishes them off. Franco can’t do that.

[@fenixyt4527]

I'd say we should also see the enemy's perspective to understand what it feels like to have him as an enemy

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Reasons he is banned: 1. His kits provides AoE CC, sturdiness and sustain, and disabling abilities that counters most META Junglers or Fighters. 2. His versatility in roles from going Exp, Roam and Jungler which is similar to Esmeralda or Jawhead. 3. His fast jungle clear as Jungler and useful early game stuns as Roam/Offlaner. 4. His ult that disrupts almost every teamfights. 5. Last but not least, his Max HP% based dmg which is the trend of META rn (Karrie, DHS with Trinity, Minsi, Lunox, Hilda)

[@Vushon]

The dps in his phalanx stance is insane by itself so i guess it's a mix of everything being powerful along with his ult and his pull

[@ttschannel875]

Im old minsitthar former user. The biggest mistake i saw people do is only go on full tank build or roamer. He is more versatile then what people espect. Going full demage was not so bad after all . He have built in durability.

[@zorandire3946]

I severely miss his old 2nd skills shield and satisfying sound effect when it hit, now it's just press to attack which i find it's just not for me anymore

[@Astrallion45]

The spell is need to be right with the build example inspire its better with speed build for insane life steal or flicker for ur build half tank its great for combo like ultimate flicker or 1 skill Flicker or even petrified the best for damage attack speed will keep the enemy longer in ur ult

[@StephenNyala-wm6xl]

80% win rate every time i use him *since revamp

[@hiratoneon]

Yeah minsitar is really easy to counter cause I'm a yin user but Estes no not that guy he just tp,s on me in my own ulti

[@Bogsmoto17]

Fun fact. You can use 2nd skill to do damage on turrets

[@exclusive_mr_21]

When I try to pick arlott they ban arlott.When I get A chance to pick Arlott They Pick Minsittar 😢

[@globalzen4628]

I main Ling haya and Lancelot... theres no way I'll stop banning him 😭

[@sosoprofesional4681]

yes he is worth banning he has high damage and can restrain mobility which every meta has he also is comfortable pick cuz he can be played exp roam and jg

[@JustPhoenix.]

I think the reason minsithar is a priority ban is because the current meta junglers are the ones that has a lot of blink skills

[@abdulmuizz4927]

Yes. Even hero like Aurora or Eudora afraid to fight him. Mostly Minsi will build Tank. If you got caught by him, you will die. He is very annoying with ulti

[@GhostTheStopMotion]

Umm...hey Elgin you forget about his pushing capability he can push a turret really fast just using 2 attack speed item and he could be more useful during team fight because of his pasif and one more thing he can use his second skill to push

[@angelosgames9960]

Minsitthar is still Ban Worthy. He is so deadly to those who rely on Dashes. Not only that he can now Easily dominate the lane as well

[@Explosion-]

Also he is enemy of mages that has stationary ultimate where he can hook them from their safe utl spot to the oh Fck im ded team fight danger zone

[@m.erlanggasaputra2134]

For me it's not really because the counter method is quite easy. If Minsittar is in Exp, use a hero who doesn't rely too much on Blink like Terizla, Gloo, or Yu Zhong for Roam, you can use Diggie, Rafaela for extra mov speed or use a Taunt hero like Belerick, Gatot or Hypernya like Fredrinn is quite annoying for Minsittar users and greetings from Indonesia Bro

[@vaynelevant]

can terizla use his s2 inside minsi's ult? that's the problem most people have with his ult, some damage skills cannot be used while inside it so you resort to either running away or doing normal attacks instead. also taunt heroes are always annoying regardless of what hero you use hahaha

[@m.erlanggasaputra2134]

@@vaynelevant of course you can because S2 Terizla isn't considered Blink as well as S1 Gloo and Minsittar can't Burst Gloo because Gloo has high dmg reduction as well as Terizla or there is another option that might not lose either, namely Esmeralda but because Esmeralda isn't on meta so it's rarely seen

[@m.erlanggasaputra2134]

and the reason why I recommend a Hero with the Taunt skill when Minsittar becomes Roam is so that during war Minsittar cannot issue his Passive which is sick and annoying for backline heroes like Marksman or Mage and of course Dominance Ice is very influential and you can also use the Vengeance Spell for Minsittar that can also be Nice option

[@imwolfiee3110]

As a supreme/global top 50 Minsi, I can say even though Minsi is indeed ANNOYING to deal with, but there are ways to counter him. Heroes such as Valentina, Diggie, Irithel, Akai can counter Minsi. Valentina with her ulti, copy Minsi’s ulti and disable him before he ults Diggie with his ulti, “purifying” everyone out of Minsi’s ulti Irithel with her sprint and auto attacks (But user must have good kiting) Akai with his ulti, spinning enemies away from heroes that are trapped inside Minsi’s ulti Even long ranged heroes like Pharsa, Cecilion and Lesley can be good picks to counter Minsi as well. But ofcourse, all these picks mentioned still goes down to how well the users can play these heroes.

[@radikaifa30]

Why always forget minsittar's second skill can damage tower?

[@HikaruAkitsuki]

Minsitar is the only hero that cancel even the heroes traits. So most of the player banning him are mostly relay on leap skill which he cancels.