Is Minsitthar Worth the Ban?

Is Minsitthar Worth the Ban?
So in this video, I'm going to try out the hero who recently got a revamp in official server...
And this one's Minsitthar.
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[@E_E69]

It's not just that his ult doesn't allow dash, it also slows mvmt spd and it's very difficult to get away from especially with his pull amd stun. He counters meta picks like melissa, joy, martis, etc so yes he's worth banning

[@ruper0]

Its pretty small tho and i dont notice the slow effect at all, i think you meant his 2nd skill adds slow effect

[@E_E69]

@@ruper0 with the new corrosion scythe, he slows pretty significantly

[@hihi4948]

@@ruper0 it's doesn't matter since you will pull him back 🤣

[@tanll59]

How to solve the slow? Sprint but the thing i hate is that if the minshi is good he can pull u back again into his ulti that's annoying

[@MrRando930]

He does not counter Martis with his ult

[@StephenNyala-wm6xl]

80% win rate every time i use him *since revamp

[@VoS_IReapz]

Quite simply yes. The versatility is enough to ban him.

[@laminnabam2752]

*Meet Elgin...* He can one shot a late game marksman and mage. He can tank like a tank. He can go 1V1 against the enemy hyper. He can neutralize dashes and high mobility heroes. He can clear tank's HP in a blink of an eye. His ultimate provides a good battleground for his teammates. He has a passive that can provide *DOUBLE* stuns. He can even hook like Franco but the hooks are way better than Franco's. His 2nd skill provides dmg reduction. But, Elgin says Minsitther should not be banned in rank games. *DON'T BE LIKE ELGIN.* 🙂

[@shironoyami7002]

He's just helping to get mst free from constant bans. MST finally given love but since he's kept being banned no one can even try him.

[@alwayshasbeen7125]

He wants to spread the word so he can play minsi

[@theonewholaughs1100]

Minsi is not really worth the ban tho

[@sithuthethein4066]

@@theonewholaughs1100Can you tell me one reason why?

[@Tony-wn8zw]

@@sithuthethein4066 Because Minsi don't have any epic or legendary skin, so no Minsithar is not worth the ban

[@hixtenzx]

Yea he should be banned

[@andalibswopno9232]

Agreed

[@chadgrimwell8380]

I bet his enemies in the video are regretting not banning Minsi

[@undercover6252]

You can just dodge his hook and cc burst him but i guess its hard for everyone to do

[@hio.hinomaru21]

​@@undercover6252 Okay, then, what's your ideal team? You play solos or squad?

[@geraldleoliou408]

​@@undercover6252 easy for you to say, you'll get a problem when the enemy use Minsithar as a tank

[@dale8859]

Minsithar has a unique ulti that makes the opponents unable to dash or escape, and his 2nd skill is like really overpowered

[@individual_zenbo21]

Until you fight against any hero that just shove minsi or just use flameshoot or have a long stun duration

[@individual_zenbo21]

​@raynaldo arlen k.eman The only thing i hate about fighting badang is his 1st skill, he usually survives the interaction (because he would just knock back minsi and minsi's 2nd skill is out of range)

[@sigma2800]

You don't say

[@individual_zenbo21]

@raynaldo arlen k.eman I would usually use my ult, then petrify, then 2nd skill, and use 1st skill if he has a chance of escaping. So similar to a kadita playstyle just like what elgin describes.

[@individual_zenbo21]

@raynaldo arlen k.eman nice tip, might try it out on a match with badang

[@DoNotSin]

We're literally in a meta where tanks and mobility is superior, Minsitthar being a possible tank and hp based dmg and countering high mobility heroes

[@TheRealTemper]

​@@Goruden_4407 she's easily countered by a good saber or other AoE heroes, unless the nata is really good with the timing she's gonna have a sh1t time

[@acehunt0403]

Then why phoveus is not meta?

[@alexquebator7092]

​@@Goruden_4407 Bro stop spamming like a bot. Go ask moonton your issue, they're the one who can make changes.

[@northgamingbuddy2518]

Meanwhile in mpl ph: bennyqt used gold lane minsithar.

[@aprettydumbperson]

​@@acehunt0403 Ever since Phoveus's ult bug where he could ult even when stunned got patched he's been quite lackluster that and he doesn't really pose much of a threat as Minsitthar

[@petercolinumali7497]

his dmg output is not the cause for his frequent bans like your build in this video. it's about his ability to suppress anyone and anything in a teamfight technically his build doesnt really need the DHS, it only causes him to deal more dmg rapidly in his aoe. what he really needed is the scythe as it slows down enemies he hit, add any tanking items and a good grasp of the team fight and your team will have a good chance of winning said teamfight.

[@Difracil]

Yeah those idiots who build him glass cannon and die before he can even ult are the problem. That's why I prefer to ban him than see a glass cannon fighter on my team.

[@Tony-wn8zw]

Minsithar's royal guards also apply the basic attack effects, this includes the 9% of the demon slayer's current life but also the slowdown and the 80 bonus damage of the corrosive scythe. The extra damage of the items is reduced to about 25% of the original damage to balance it out, but if it is in the center it takes the attacks of the 4 guards so it takes the original damage from the item, Minsithar's 2nd skill is also considered a basic attack (and works against towers) so it applies DHS and scythe in a massive way. That's why I think these 2 objects are essential if you want to deal high damage.

[@goldendj9700]

His ult can use item effects… DHS works

[@VincentjoyBerenguel]

Elgins build for.this video is the the reason and the problem why he said minsi does not deserve to be ban. many epical.glory now will.follow 😂 im doomed

[@IsoyaYasuji]

When the meta is FILLED with dash heroes and more usually using flicker to escape or engage. Minsi’s kit is DEVASTATION for them, Phoveus is just a lower tier below minsi, one good ult on the enemy’s core for example melissa or martis jungle, he can really turn the tides. Corrosion Scythe is his ABSOLUTE CORE item.. you’ll be stunned, slowed, and can’t even dash away.. i can tell that the mains of heroes that uses a lot of dashes(like me with ruby) will hate to face him so banning him is the only option other than you or ur ally picking minsi. I mean to be fair, he was forgotten EVER SINCE his release, so this is quite deserving for him xD

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

You know the hero's scary when Isoya the Ruby man is scared of him

[@gibs40]

I think heroes whose mobility rely on speeding up (Like Esmeralda) have little to no problem in dealing with him. It's only the heavy cc that's annoying if u using these heroes

[@AdamWalrus]

you dominated in the whole game easily (not solely because your good at the game but the advantages of the hero skill set) by countering heroes that are dependent to their mobility when escaping or attacking and eventually kill them and then say he doesn't deserve to be banned? the hell?

[@YouRock2023]

Not Banning Minsithar is a big mistake.. Don't let me use a Minsithar in a rank game or your Defeat will be inevitable

[@UnoPlays7993]

As a Minsitthar Main, i can confim that we barely get to use our main

[@alonkob2127]

As another Minsitthar main, I agree. Though I really did like the revamp and I think he's in a pretty healthy spot right now.

[@Name-gg1li]

My bad, just not being able to use ur skills and flicker always throws me off.

[@winter4993]

Unlucky for you I got everytime😅

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

As a new Minsi main, I have yet to experience getting Minsi banned in ranked

[@wisydence641]

As a current mythical glory this season, he's not a threat to me.

[@url7167]

He's often banned because an overwhelming amount of meta heroes have mobility

[@tanll59]

His ult is a Middle finger to most mm whiche have dash

[@geraldleoliou408]

​​@@tanll59 Hell dude, the moment you want to get out from his ult, he can pull you back in.

[@sithuthethein4066]

@@bgin5338Or just ban him.

[@rintarookabe5709]

Totally agreed 👍 Even have CC immunity or remove CC skill also can't dash in his ultimate (except Kagura,Kagura can use her remove CC dash skill in his ultimate,quite surprised when I can use her second skill)

[@AppleMini570]

@@rintarookabe5709 kagura can’t dash out from his ultimate before Misitha revamped, but after revamped Kagura can dash out from his ultimate . I don’t know if it a bug or they want it that way . I can confirm since I’m Kagura Main with 1189 matches .

[@QDark16]

as wanwan mains, he is such an avengers level threat

[@MegumiEsmere3697]

so true

[@YukanV]

Phoveus too

[@kolack100]

@@Goruden_4407 Good. Dumb brain dead hero anyways

[@MegumiEsmere3697]

@@YukanV you can easily counter phoveus with the attack speed build (demon hunter sword, corrosion scyte,golden staff,sea halberd, windchant/windtalker (optional depends on the enemy) and athena/radiant armor (also depends with the enemy)

[@zen8400]

wait no no u are wrong...wanwan is the ideal mm for him. Its got so many perks. 1. As long as u can weave around his aim and immune cc at perfect moment he cant bring u into his ult. 2. He gets confident nd comes close to catch u giving easy ult 3. He knows he is ur counter so he will focus u and ur teammates will have a much easier time. When u know how to use minshitar and wanwan its so fun jst making a fool out of him. Ofc if he like frnco jst flickers into ur range nd ults u are fked but that can happen to any mm and most minshi use petrify or vengeance.

[@micoandreimanzarate1646]

Yes Elgin, it's just you, it's mostly a nightmare when you face one even if it's not a situational pick, because of the 2nd skill, and you can't really escape when you're in his domain

[@junpei4401]

I remember when they haven't revamped minsi. He's my go-to roam and I always wondered why nobody plays him. His hook is easier to maneuver than Franco's and his 2nd helps me survive. But then again, I'm not mythic or whatever. 😆

[@josefavirtudes2723]

same

[@vaynelevant]

i used to play minsi too but not anymore because the ult duration was shortened a lot. i like the hook and passive changes but the 2nd skill not so much. i prefer the old shield bash over the spartan shield and stab.

[@calculus17]

Elgin, your build. You should get atleast demon hunter and corrosion scythe. It drastically change his damage and attack speed, plus slow.

[@taseenirkanurbar8393]

The healing from its passive is the most annoying. When about to kill him he stuns heals and run away .

[@fireemblem5340]

He is overrated because people don't know how to move sideways so they always die in his ult, nothing new, I'd rather just avoid having Valentina or if possible, Wan over Minsitthar who at best, would be like, the 15th hero to prioritize on banning and i'm being generous

[@luigimatthew6614]

His hook is the game changer. It's like Ruby's ultimate but rectangular or Alpha's ultimate but backwards.

[@firstername]

this is actually all just an elaborate plan so elgin can freely pick minsitthar in ranked

[@shinryuzero]

@Elgin the ulti has 2 other effects, one being that it can also activate other item effects if I remember correctly much like his 2nd skill's normal attack. But it also activates his passive which means you will get stunned inside even if Minsi doesn't hit you. Minsi is like a more flexible and group oriented Lapu and can be a pain if partnered with the correct heroes and team mate, and even if not his still a force to be reckoned with if you let him snowball. Hence his banned A LOT.

[@MrJoe6667]

Hello epical glory in mythic or low ranks. Stop banning Yin Johnson Vale saber in mythic rank.

[@mcseanedianel320]

Yin is kinda worth banning when playing soloq cause if you get bad, inexperienced teamates(below 500mtches) they just become food for him

[@shuuxyuzi4102]

@@mcseanedianel320 agreed

[@MrJoe6667]

@@mcseanedianel320 yes thats why I hate people like you. There are other op heroes to ban who are xavier martis minsithar arlott melissa badang joy etc.

[@MrJoe6667]

@@mcseanedianel320 very rare in mythic a yin enemy is able to win easily. When i was in epic and legend most yin users legendary. No use banning in mythic.

[@alemansprototypeguy]

Agreed. People forgot that Yin, can be easily bullied by frontline heroes due to the lack of sustain when he's taking EXP lane. But to be honest, Yin is a good pick to pick off squishies but not banworthy. I even seen some Yin bans that doesn't even make sense.

[@Yutaaa-tv3mk]

I respectfully disagree with Minisi not being ban worthy - Minis was literally the difference maker this whole entire game. The perfect moment that capitalizes this is - “Our team is ahead by 7 kills” Elgin: 7 - 0 - 10 Minis is strong AF

[@inkwillsarcade9872]

Elgin forgot to mention that his skill 2 and ultimate damage now includes attack effects.

[@GG-zc8um]

its might a small revamp but high cc ability and wide aoe skill make it become a worst enemy for high mobility hero or hero with no skill to blink. also his ultimate will not allow some hero for using ultimate make enemy have low chance to survive team fight. make it worst his 1st skill can catch multiple hero in such distance. hero who type need to get close to team like estes will easily been catch together with his team

[@basky7246]

As a Minsithar main, Its better to ban him than regret later.

[@rexroiyal]

minsi doesnt just counter the meta but is also pretty strong even without countering meta. Bennyqt already showcased Minsi in high level competition.

[@globalzen4628]

I main Ling haya and Lancelot... theres no way I'll stop banning him 😭

[@sweethomealabama4381]

He was an auto ban when using tank is because of this reasons: 1. Extremely hard to deal with - considering of the fact Minsi regenerates with passive, getting crowded won't be too much of a problem, and as a tank, this would be more terrible to deal with 2. Anti dash - Minsitthar counters the dash meta, Arlott and Joy at mythic ranks are the most banned things in high rank but since Minsi counters this, he would be hell of an interruption, especially to the fact most heros are dash dependent, flicker would be completely useless as an escape against Minsi 3. Simply better than most tanks in terms of set - unlike Franco who can only focus in a single enemy at a time after pulling them, Minsitthar can simply do things better, bigger hook, can pull multiple enemies, and he can lock enemies with ulti, Minsitthar is basically Franco on steroids especially to quite fast cooldowns, Franco is already a menace with a good user, let alone Minsitthar who is way easier and better skill effects 4. Multiple roles - he can not just tank, he can also damage, heroes that are capable of doing multiple roles are often the favorite in ban list 5. Early to late game capabilities - he is fully capable of doing destruction to formations and can intimidate really well due to his team fight capabilities, he would be a completely unwanted enemy These are some of the reasons of him getting auto banned

[@sanemi-reelseiden]

Minsithar counter Bennyqt’s heroes? 🤔

[@sosoprofesional4681]

yes he is worth banning he has high damage and can restrain mobility which every meta has he also is comfortable pick cuz he can be played exp roam and jg

[@11ict1theodoree.mariano4]

I am a tigreal main. And Minsithar is a menace in the battlefield. I couldn't make great sets whenever Minsithar is around. I couldn't get away.

[@chikinitsmobgaming]

first

[@riko.6980]

You can use minsi's 2nd skill to push turrets faster Or i feel its fast

[@crowofjudgement8810]

Funny how he went from one of the most banned heroes to now being almost never banned and if anything his skills are easier to use now since they made it so he can use skills when drawing his spear

[@marvindg4295]

Me as a ARLOTT main 🗿 having seen a minsittar banned when I'm arlott I'm like don't worry I'll sweep him out of his ult THAT'S A LIE AS #36 PANGASINAN ITS HARDER THAN YOU THINK ONCE YOU TRY TO COMBO A MINSITTAR HE CAN USE HIS ULT YOU HAVE NO ESCAPE

[@adenela209]

You forgot that his ult clone can trigger basic attack effects

[@ians.5026]

The only way you can counter meta/overpowered heroes such as (estes, faramis, ministhar, atlas or etc)... you can used "valentina"... Thats the only hero that can counter them in my opinion... *Also dont forget that this hereos can counter them as well : -diggie(counter atlas or cc heroes) -valir(counter martis, hilda, masha) -valentina(counter faramis, estes, and etc)... Theres more but i think its enough to you guys think about "meta" or "overpowered" heroes....

[@nacht1295]

There is just so much wrong in this video as a EXP main. Your undervalueing Minsi's entire kit it's actually incredible. And you saying he plays simalerly to kadita? Thats all I needed to hear. I like your content elgin but you really need to re evaluate this entire video and I'll tell you why. First off the burst build is just far less superior to his normal building being just corrosion and DHS. Attack speed is really good for him as he can still melt and also proc his passive way faster. People do not realize how deadly it Is until they get melted in 2 seconds by it. Also his hook you under value extremely also. It's a franco hook that can hook multiple people, do you know how unbelievable that is? His second you literally get a defense buff while having more range on your basic attack, pretty good if you ask me. And his ult is also extremely under valued. It not only takes away flickers and dashes now but also ALL mobility skills. This includes sprint BTW. And it also procs his passive making it even MORE difficult to escape. Which btw makes it a set. Just because you build him horribly, and you under value him cause you had good teammates with you, while you did decently good doesn't mean the hero is over rated. But hey, *That's just me.*

[@squidward1901]

As for me he always getting be countered by 1v1 only three heroes can beaten minsithar while using the ultimate "kings calling" like thamuz, yu zhong, and dyrroth.

[@slimslimee4411]

I've actually faced 2 out of the 3 exp laners you have mentioned with minsi and was able to easily win my fights. As always it depends on how you take the fight. For Yu Zhong, keep you're distance from his skills so he doesnt get easy pokes from his skills and his passive while poking him from afar which is easier for minsi. For dyrroth, at the start, clear the wave as soon as possible and try to avoid getting hit by dyrroth's enraged skills cause they can smack hard and prioritize an anti regen item for him like Sea Halberd for your first item or any high regen hero in general

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

You literally mentioned 3 kings of 1v1 and expects to win against the with Minsi a teamfight hero

[@Alias1114]

When I see him get used and I play gloo, I have a big smile on my face as I know he's an easy feast. I personally don't think he deserves to be banned so often

[@NAi2004]

Well minsi is not op and its not because he is op that i get ban rather he is ban because of how effective he is in disrupting the enemies line up and positioning especially in team fight. Given how many mm have somekind of blink or even does that needs flicker to blink for escaping team fight and sets. Minsi prevent anyone to do so (unless they have cc immu blink skill) which makes it him annoying to deal with. Sure he is not too strong in 1v1 and alone but his too much of a pain in teamfight

[@abc-mt8us]

Elgin: so, what you can say bout mind'shit'tar? Me: well, I guess he's not a shit anymore. Lol.

[@AbangLongLa]

He is auto ban not bcuz he is OP or something but he can counter a lot of dash hero and thats why they decide to ban him. He is in fact overrated. His ult are good and his passive give him a bit of sustain and stun but that it. He don't have mobility and slow af. His 1st is damn hard to land and his 2nd skill give him movement penalty eaxh time he hit an enemy and making it harder to chase enemy.

[@ronianph]

Why minsit is most ban 1. His passive which stun 2.His hook where it can hook multiple enemies at a time 3.His second skill where you can spam his passive 4.His ultimate where you are restricted using a dash or movement type skill basically your Ultimate skill.

[@ilupillu4915]

Why sprint works in his ulti its also move ment skill right

[@pranjalsiwakoti714]

he i up with 11 1 12 manages to get double kill while lord in base defend it and carry almost all game with diffrent build and says he is not hard to deal like ok 💀

[@exclusive_mr_21]

When I try to pick arlott they ban arlott.When I get A chance to pick Arlott They Pick Minsittar 😢

[@candysofia5769]

Its just annoying to deal with just like how nana use to be and still be u can counter them but they are still annoying

[@aljongreat1900]

I build minsi now with trinity build plus 2 defensive items. Can melt tanks in clash

[@hiratoneon]

Yeah minsitar is really easy to counter cause I'm a yin user but Estes no not that guy he just tp,s on me in my own ulti

[@NalzLavishAccessories]

he should not be banned alot he strong and sometimes unpridictable

[@EdmundSetsu]

just bcs he cant dish out high dmg doesnt mean he is not ban worthy...

[@KokoJeuru]

13:17 , Chang'e marksman build, hahaha!😂🤣😆✌️👍

[@jayneldalecano423]

Minsi user here . I always won the MCL as champion and mvp

[@pokolorik27]

They banned Mishitar because they wanted him to be nerfed again

[@potatoes402]

Proceeds to dominate and stun lock enemies with full screen ult cc while bursting down squishy heroes Elgin: _"I don't think he's ban worthy"_

[@Meteo_sauce]

I just ban him cuz a bad minsithar roam on your team is as good as gg

[@radzytaufek604]

i started playing minsi in rank this season and i gotta say hes so good that my winrate are like 75% using him. i usually play him as a roamer

[@nomore714]

The chance for a 5 man hook is low, but no 0

[@mafimok]

What Elgin failed to mention that would explain how Minsi went from LEAST PICKED to BANNED is how bad the previous version was. Here's the comparison. ~Passive: Get bonus gold from ally kills >>>> stun enemies by using skills or attacks, deal extra damage and heal HP. ~1st skill: Pull 1 enemy >>>> Pull everyone ~2nd skill: Short ranged weak stun >>>> buff that allows you to deal lots of damage while taking less damage from his front. ~3rd skill is nerfed to somewhat keep him balanced. Minsi is being picked even in professional league like MPL as he makes the game hard for a huge pool of heroes. Heroes that are usually prioritized because of mobility like Lance, Fanny, Ling. And on item building, corrosion scythe keeps the enemies inside his ult longer.

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Reason he is banned now basically: They gave him better overall kits then just being the hero known for stopping dashes. Now he is known as the hero who can Mass CC everyone and Mass Poke everyone... and stop dashes.

[@josef-1209]

He's dangerous even for heroes without dashes 💀 Not only is his grounded effect deadly, his slow + stun is as well!!! 😒 Edit: 5:58 _kinda weird comparison but okay then_

[@BillHeng]

as a minsi main, stop banning him...

[@onealmahilum6679]

What's the inspire for? you Never use it

[@GoldenUndrowler]

I honestly thing it isn’t worth it to ban, he can be countered by a ton of heroes

[@max_rayn2816]

really?🗣️😏

[@GetRatio]

If you don't mind please point out some heroes who can counter him except Argus.

[@abinashdewraja2911]

Name them pls qwq

[@max_rayn2816]

@@GetRatio hero with high sustainability and lifesteal enough to get on same foot as minshitar

[@StardustDragon2500]

@@max_rayn2816 yes, minshittar with dhs and sea halberd can be COUNTERED by high sustainability heroes

[@zenuss.]

Alternative Title: guys pls stop banning minsitthar i never get to use him

[@zenuss.]

this is a joke comment btw

[@KRyouta071]

In my POV, he's like a 90% of chances of winning teamfights. But in terms of solo, there are heroes that can counter him like X-borg

[@spreeky9790]

I played Xborg several times to counter minsi, and I choose Sprint for him over flicker.

[@jenjenhocho3188]

Minsi has mass hook, is capable of mass stun and his area control is quite potent. But hes not OP but rather a nuisance in team fights forcing you to either target him or the enemy damagers like MMs and mages.

[@lyonluisbautista3269]

He does not deserved to be banned. I find it easy to kill him as you guys already know minsitthar's ultimate duration is now shorter so you don't have to be scared of his ultimate and his 2nd skill is easy to dogde. I am glad moonton now finally revamped in a good balanced revamp way but not deserved to be banned there is no way moonton will nerf minsitthar because many high ranked players banned him.There is already a nerf for minsitthar the shot duration of his ultimate and his 2nd skill easy to dodge.

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

6 seconds is still a lot of time to get killed when you dont have any dashes, doesn't help further when the guards and Minsi himself has Corrosion to slow your escape. And Minsi in teamfights is an absolute danger when heroes like Joy, Martis, Ling, Lancy and such are METAs and against him. Also his sustain from passive helps him survive fights longer (not as much as Yu Zhong) to stall time atleast.

[@wu1908]

All bans are situational? even outright OP heroes have effective counters. Although I'm interested to know whats the difference between regular attack speed build vs elgin build.I mean whats the pros and cons of each one of them. That's one thing that I'll really like analysed. PS: curious. what's ur game setting? high or ultra? does ur device heat up and what kind of device you use? Thank you very much and love your vids!

[@Jays_MotionLess]

I usually use his 1st skill when the enemy is at the farthest range of his hook Its much easier since it stuns the enemy when it hits, guaranteeing the pull Tho, you can still use it in mid range if the enemy is slowed enough to escape before he pulls the spear Edit: Fun fact: Kagura can still use her 2nd skill inside Minsi's ult

[@YFDXD]

I think because her 2nd skill purifies

[@Jays_MotionLess]

@@YFDXD That is correct

[@youneedbrains]

When you are trying to prove if he needs to be banned at least use the right spell and build thanks Also if you are using minsi you can counter yin just by using your 2nd skill on the domain facing his way, no need to buy dreadnaught armor (You can do this when you buy tough boots which is also a great counter to martis and grock's cc skills) And also because minsi is a frontline fighter I recommend to buy rose gold meteor that should minimize your chances to die on a clash

[@mlbbmadara]

I main him even before he's revamp ,he is the universal flex hero, he can do all roles and gonall lanes, btw it breaks my heart watching how you use minsi haha

[@Rythruins]

Atleast for me, yes my main heroes revolves around dashing heroes, I can play all role but man having no dash is a massive change in my gameplay and hero pools. Ofcourse there are heroes who doesn't need dash with high mobility but man it's annoying that he also stuns, slows you down and pull you back basically locking you down unless you have sprint

[@shino7869]

Fragments shop update please

[@JayElDragon]

YES BAN HIM This hero is absurd, not only does he deal insane amounts of damage with his s2 and his guards, but his passive stuns you and his ult basically doesn’t let you play the game Nullifies any type of dash, it slows you by 20% plus if you add corrosion scythe the slow can be up to 60% which is ridiculous, and his hook pulls EVERY HERO IT TOUCHES SO YES DO BAN THIS GUY

[@eileen4695]

Minsi roam for me, he can do anything pretty much. Kadita is more like backline assassin but minsi is so flexible.

[@DevinSant]

A good pick against Minsitthar is Esmeralda, but you'll have to build some damage on her or going for tank build adapted to work against demon hunter sword and with ice queen wand or thunder belt with purify. Actually, most heroes can work well against him if they don't have blink skills and their core items aren't tanky ones, because purify can do the rest; unfortunately, it became a forgotten spell since sprint's buff.

[@peterparkerakaspider]

What? I saw 2 in enemy side take purify when they saw saber in my team. Can't say it's a forgotten spell.

[@Explosion-]

The ult and passive with skill 2 combo makes his enemy team panic all trying to evade the stun

[@tknymph]

I didn't even need to finished watching the video to answer that question. Lol His ultimate is enough for him to be in the banned section, minsitar with tank build partnered with decent core and support can dominate every match, yeah auto ban for him.

[@romatawazu8038]

I love the minsi revamp but his aoe pull seems op

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Well it's still the same old pull from before revamp tho The only thing changed is the target limit and stun at the end of it's range. It is still very easily dodgeable

[@romatawazu8038]

@Nome [Virtual Gravedigger, Member Of Dab Police] therefore it is not the same 🤣 well I'm not asking for a nerf or whatever

[@marcusroc]

If you use skill 2 you can attack towers way faster and its superb for pushing

[@AmiyaNC]

He counters my ruby so yaahh i hate minsi and if possible I'd ban him and khufra

[@wildcarx]

What makes him a high ban hero is his teamfight potential,he can turn the tide of a teamfight if you know how use him. Besides that ,you frogot one more thing about the buff in minsi ult ,his ult can also trigger atk spd effects so dhs , corrosion sythe can use their passive to do so

[@justaguy5496]

Wait, i don't remember his ulti attack speed inherit attack speed effect.

[@wildcarx]

@@justaguy5496 yeah ,it does just check the buff from his ult

[@ws3240]

Me watching Elgin using the wrong Trifecta build:

[@JVBobis]

the player should be banned not the hero, lol just kidding hahaha

[@xtrivirikhan8937]

Tbh whenever I use Argus, I even let Minsithar hook and use his ult to me since it's almost like suicidal for him

[@Isoolated_Irl]

He’s good for team fights or during taking objectives like lord or turtle not to mention no one fear argus in team fight just cc is enough to stop him

[@tanll59]

1:20 how come Martis still can dash even when in minshi ult

[@JRZ-the-bigG]

Because he did it before mins did the ult by 0.2 seconds or smth hella short so he was hella lucky basically

[@Shaggybangs]

​@@JRZ-the-bigG no it's because cc immunity while using second skill

[@Shaggybangs]

Cc immunity

[@hitie6792]

​@@Shaggybangs mins ult isn't cc. What he was talking about was that how martis can dash because mins ult is "blink disability" ult, while you are correct that martis skill 2nd immune to Minsi CC *passive* , your reasoning to op comments isn't correct since Cc immune like 2nd skills of Benedetta are still disabled by mins ult

[@krystal69420]

His first skill can hook multiple heroes and can now goes with flip. His second skill can block physical and magical (i think) dmg up to 50% from the front. His ult loses its bonus defense, lasts shorter and has way longer cd. I kinda like the old one for its 2nd skill quick stun more than the current one.

[@ORGELES6436]

Taas kasi ng true damage

[@reymorr9429]

minsi has no true damage

[@justashzz]

Not first ban but should consider Priority: Arlott / novaria / joy Second: minsithar / melissa / faramis Understandable: fredrinn / estes / lesley / Lancelot

[@andreimaquiniana4144]

Well Minsitthar is so strong now since his Hook is so good now he can hook almost all enemies plus the passive that stun and heal you. Great Sustainability plus Good CC now.

[@imgood3374]

I think the only reason he is ban is because of his passive stun it's so long maybe if they nerf it he will not be banned much often

[@seasonsgaia2487]

U call him stronger think again in one v 1 scenario.I would say he is op when team comes to destroy enemies when u ultimate so enemy can't use escape or damge skill based on dash.I will still say minsithar is no op

[@paklang8667]

Nah just use diggie bro....diggie also counter atlas,Chou,wanwan and can be very Anoyying....that's just my thought

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

You can use Minsi’s second skill for turret/main tower as well I think it deals a lot more damage than his basic attacks

[@thewyldecarde3821]

Came here to see if anyone mentioned this. He can smash turrents and base with that skill. My bro runs him all the time and he can push so good.

[@justanormaljugofmilkonthei2439]

@@thewyldecarde3821 i mainly use ats build cuz it’s what I’m used to Imma use different builds next time Oh, and I tried using him as jungler, result is pretty standard(still need to run more tests on this build)

[@aidimy-respecteachother9555]

He really worth for banning hero because as Edith main.. minsittar really annoying enemy.. haha..

[@gabbiscuits]

my teammates ban: Nana, aldous, layla

[@lostsmile9492]

Minsithar and phoveus have the best combo

[@day5833]

Imo Best Revamped Hero: 1)Faramis 2)Minshitar 3)Kagura 4)Miya Honorable mention: Lancelot, Hayabusa

[@yOmi5701]

How about Full crit build on minsi? Well, I do used it, yes he becomes squishy with that, you just need to play it safe. And trust me when I say coz I've done few savages on him already and even uploaded it. Yeah, he's worth banning.

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Reasons he is banned: 1. His kits provides AoE CC, sturdiness and sustain, and disabling abilities that counters most META Junglers or Fighters. 2. His versatility in roles from going Exp, Roam and Jungler which is similar to Esmeralda or Jawhead. 3. His fast jungle clear as Jungler and useful early game stuns as Roam/Offlaner. 4. His ult that disrupts almost every teamfights. 5. Last but not least, his Max HP% based dmg which is the trend of META rn (Karrie, DHS with Trinity, Minsi, Lunox, Hilda)